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Title: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: shangri la 1 on February 22, 2015, 03:06:31 AM
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Broken Bones(Mark Knopfler)


LYRICS
   She likes a man with a broken nose
Lucky for me, I suppose
Shots coming in like the monthly bills
Soon they’ll be saying I’m over the hill

Well the bell goes clang and you’re on your own
You take your medicine and go home
You take it like a man, on the chin
And you don’t make a fuss when the towel comes in

Now let me go home, got to lay in ice
And I don’t want to hear no more advice
Just give me my clothes
Get me out of this place
How many more stitches in my face?

Those broken bones, you pick ‘em up and carry ‘em
Broken bones, you carry ‘em home
Broken bones, you pick ‘em up and carry ‘em
Broken bones, you carry ‘em home

He had the punch lines, I was the joke
Every shot felt like something broke
It was all much more than a man should stand
And I finally went down to a big right hand

Now let me go home, got to lay in ice
And I don’t want to hear no more advice
Just give me my clothes
Get me out of this place
How many more stitches in my face?

Those broken bones, you pick ‘em up and carry ‘em
Broken bones, you carry ‘em home
Broken bones, you pick ‘em up and carry ‘em
Broken bones, you carry ‘em home

Broken bones, you pick ‘em up and carry ‘em
Broken bones, you carry ‘em home
Broken bones, you pick ‘em up and carry ‘em
Broken bones, you carry ‘em home


Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on February 23, 2015, 07:55:25 PM
So this is the JJ Cale-alike song with just Mark on a little amp as he said in an interview? I wonder if the lyrics have to do with the death of JJ or if he means it is just JJ Cale-style recorded..

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: MisterYES on March 12, 2015, 12:36:25 AM
It's Early Bird singed by Clapton  :)
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: jbaent on March 12, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
Something says to me that this is going to be one of the skippers to me... pretty repetitive, after 2 minutes of song I´m already bored... a good idea as it's a J.J.Cale tribute, but... "Someday" is a way better tribute than this one.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: border_reiver on March 12, 2015, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: jbaent on March 12, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
Something says to me that this is going to be one of the skippers to me... pretty repetitive, after 2 minutes of song I´m already bored... a good idea as it's a J.J.Cale tribute, but... "Someday" is a way better tribute than this one.

I like it :)

It's the repetitive style that was JJ. But it's only JJ who can pull if off to perfection, as any other top musician with his or her own trademark.

Had JJ done Broken Bones, well then people would have raved about it :)
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 12, 2015, 12:14:41 PM
Exactly.

Ianto does some nice build-up work on this one, I love it. So far my absolute top favourite. Hence my weed question yesterday.
The way he sings that carry "EM is exactly JJ style, singing the line one word longer. I love that.

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 12, 2015, 12:40:12 PM
LE, i love your weed question. It describes perfectly an element on the album. I don't take it, but love the album nevertheless. Broken Bones is repetitive, but it's cool. I will not skip it...
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 12, 2015, 12:49:45 PM
Oh I don't take it neither  :o and maybe therefore I don't know anything about it but the cliché I mean and it sometimes SOUNDS like it.

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: vgonis on March 12, 2015, 03:50:05 PM
This could have been a huge number with its funky guitars and disco rhythm. Maybe a version with a huge break with loud drums and a distinctive guitar solo! Of course the lyrics might sound inappropriate like this. Agree with LE, my favorite this far! Certainly has a JJ feel, more than anything he has done this far! Thank God his voice sounds like JJ and not Bob as he grows older! Would prefer a fade out.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: jabbathehut on March 12, 2015, 07:15:39 PM
trying to understand why some people rate this song.Sounds  boring and repetitive to me but there must be something there,just like song for Sonny.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 12, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
It has to do with feeling.  8) :wave

Not boring at all, cool build up by Ianto, top 3 from my view of the album.

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: richardmu on March 12, 2015, 08:11:47 PM
Song for sonny is a good track I thought, not on album as the feel wasn't right but live and acoustic it was a great track.

The rhythm guitar is slightly annoying ? This song has potential to be epic, but not this version. There's no guitar solo worth mentioning :-O, such potential to really nail one aswell and let it rip. The last 2 minutes drag on and on and on and on... "you can pickem up and carry em" .. and on and on and on.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 12, 2015, 09:33:09 PM
The rhythm guitar is the best thing about this song! Really, what's wrong with the people...

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 12, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
It's a great song and really "cool". I loved Gator blood and a lot of people said that was boring and repetitive as well.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: dmg on March 12, 2015, 09:39:56 PM
You just want him to "let rip" at the end but by now we all know what to expect!  So much potential, still pretty good.  Maybe on tour...
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: richardmu on March 13, 2015, 02:07:54 AM
I was listening to this again on a good sound system. My wife interjected and said turn off that nonsense...... :-/ the rythym was driving her nuts....
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Dutchessy on March 13, 2015, 09:46:00 AM
Quote from: richardmu on March 13, 2015, 02:07:54 AM
I was listening to this again on a good sound system. My wife interjected and said turn off that nonsense...... :-/ the rythym was driving her nuts....

Turn of your wife  :lol
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: border_reiver on March 13, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
Raise it to 11  ;D
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: foma on March 13, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
Broken Bones just was added in my Tracker Songbook: http://amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=4152.msg90543#msg90543

The song needed around 5 minutes to transcribe and to be written down. Just like it lasts on the record. ROFL.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: peterromer on March 13, 2015, 11:31:24 PM
Quote from: yontwocrows on March 12, 2015, 12:40:12 PM
LE, i love your weed question. It describes perfectly an element on the album. I don't take it, but love the album nevertheless. Broken Bones is repetitive, but it's cool. I will not skip it...

What weed question - do someone think MK was on weed when writing these songs ?    ;D
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: schmonka on March 14, 2015, 08:49:14 AM
Broken Bones.....a bit Meh.....Im not getting it so far..... :hmm  A bit repetitive and dare i say it boring and ever so slightly dull....70's movie wha-guitar...... :disbelief
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 14, 2015, 09:30:17 AM
Love this. The handclaps are cool.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Silvertown on March 14, 2015, 09:31:13 AM
Quote from: dustyvalentino on March 14, 2015, 09:30:17 AM
Love this. The handclaps are cool.

Yes and mainly one chord. Kind of thank and tribute to JJ.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Ingo on March 14, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Cajun moon, where does your power lie...  :wave
 :thumbsup
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: peterromer on March 15, 2015, 11:39:21 AM
OK - Got the point now  ;)
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 15, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
Who is the man pictured in the album notes at this song?
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Silvertown on March 15, 2015, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: yontwocrows on March 15, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
Who is the man pictured in the album notes at this song?

J.J.?
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 15, 2015, 12:20:43 PM
No, it's not J.J. Cale. Maybe its the boxer the song is about? Or is it JJ? Now i'm unsure
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 15, 2015, 01:06:56 PM
http://www.pyke-eye.com/I-Could-Read-The-Sky/33/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Could_Read_the_Sky

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 15, 2015, 01:13:56 PM
Yeah, thanks, i just found it, too. So it's not important, who they are, to understand the songs. It's artwork. But some pretty picture on the Steve Pyke site!
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 15, 2015, 02:40:30 PM
"After I broke listons jaw, he hit me harder than any man has a right to be hit. I had to be packed in ice for five days after the fight. I can't imagine being packed in ice for 15 minutes! Five days!!!"

Mark quoted this from a famous boxer the "Evening with Mark Knopfler, at the Hurlingham Club in 2009. The broken jaw and being packed in ice for so song seems to resonate in Broken Bones, too. It seems the pure agony, the endless pain seems to be reflected in this monotonic and almost endless track? Don't get me wrong, I like every second of it, but it is unusual and I know some forumers are not happy with it..

LE

Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 15, 2015, 03:32:17 PM
Interesting remark, LE. So it could be Marty marshall vs. Sonny Liston http://www.boxing.com/early_train_to_broken_jaw.html (http://www.boxing.com/early_train_to_broken_jaw.html)
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 15, 2015, 03:41:06 PM
That evening, said the name, it was Chuck Wepner who was quoted by Mark here.

After the fight with Liston, Wepner needed 72 stitches in his face.

from Wepner's wikipedia site. So it seems this song is not so much from the viewpoint of Sonny but of one of his opponents.

LE
 
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: dmg on March 15, 2015, 04:19:37 PM
Why is he so hung up on boxing?  It's a dreadful, barbarous spectator sport.  I'm sure anyone who studied neurology would be against it.  It's a bit like rugby I suppose, only less boring.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: H97 on March 15, 2015, 07:52:02 PM
Quote from: Ingo on March 14, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Cajun moon, where does your power lie...  :wave
 :thumbsup

Was about to post the same thing, they are very much alike!  :o
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: peterromer on March 15, 2015, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: dmg on March 15, 2015, 04:19:37 PM
Why is he so hung up on boxing?  It's a dreadful, barbarous spectator sport.  I'm sure anyone who studied neurology would be against it.  It's a bit like rugby I suppose, only less boring.

It is totally off the topic and not that I like boxing but I do love martial arts. I am old Black belt in traditional karate but you probably either hate or love the battle of warriors so to speak. So if MK has an interest here and can get inspired to do more good songs then so be it  ;)     
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: the visitor on March 15, 2015, 09:40:18 PM
This is a fantastic song, incentive production and assembly. More like this please
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: kaleo74 on March 16, 2015, 05:05:12 AM
Love it ! rythm guitar remind me "another brick in the wall" in down beat tempo, Glenn Worf playing in great too, the hand claps....perfect on tour.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 16, 2015, 07:31:56 AM
Yes I was literally jumping up when I first heard it as I like it so much. It might be interesting to know that on this track, Guy plays bass, not Glen.

I don't know exactly where I read that, but it is pretty sure. Man, so many posts since last Wednesday, must be nearly thousands of posts about tracker in a few days.

Maybe another one can verify about Guy playing bass on this one. Would be interesting to know on which other tracks he did that on Tracker. (I know he did on Redbud Tree).

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 16, 2015, 08:40:03 AM
Yes it's written in the credits. He plays bass on River Towns and on Broken Bones. Ukulele on Skydiver
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: yontwocrows on March 17, 2015, 10:28:45 AM
Mark about Broken Bones:
Quote
"Though listeners often insist on taking his words more literally than he means them. "If I've written a song called Broken Bones people say 'are you a boxer?'. But actually, that one is more just a figure of speech. A friend of mine said, 'This getting old shit, it ain't for wimps.' Somebody else said, 'You know, you carry your injuries.' And that's what got me thinking about that - just to use the imagery of boxing. But it's funny what people think about songs. Once the song is out there, it goes out the door, and you don't know what's going to happen to it, but that's part of the joy."
(http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/mark-knopfler-let-the-music-do-the-talking-31064547.html (http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/mark-knopfler-let-the-music-do-the-talking-31064547.html))

I just wanted to put this information of the interview to the Broken Bones thread, so it would not get lost. Found that quite interesting that the song might be connected with age. The whole song is getting just another interesting dimension. I listened to it just now with the aging sense in mind. Quite interesting which spin the song takes. It must be repetitive.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Nick14 on March 17, 2015, 12:30:04 PM
Probably my least favourite of the 18 songs so far - but by no means bad, just not really my taste.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: foma on March 19, 2015, 12:15:15 AM
LOL faster YouTube version seems actually works:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrRJTflbPUg
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: vgonis on March 19, 2015, 09:59:16 AM
I wonder if the average listener loses much of the experience due to inadequate audio playback system.

BTW, I was expecting an actual bell ring, when he sings that words.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: border_reiver on March 19, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: foma on March 19, 2015, 12:15:15 AM
LOL faster YouTube version seems actually works:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrRJTflbPUg

Wow! Almost twice as good in that tempo  :D
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: dmg on March 19, 2015, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: border_reiver on March 19, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: foma on March 19, 2015, 12:15:15 AM
LOL faster YouTube version seems actually works:


Wow! Almost twice as good in that tempo  :D

Guy should've mixed the whole album like that!
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: ingridswing on March 19, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
LOL, really funny to hear it like this. But indeed sounds good, especially because so far it's not one of my favorites
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Nick14 on March 19, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
Really hope this one doesn't make it to the live show!
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 19, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
Really hope this one will make it to the live show! ;)

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: straitsway75 on March 19, 2015, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Love Expresso on March 19, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
Really hope this one will make it to the live show! ;)

LE
tracker songs live i hope
laughs (opener)
broken
Beryl
Taormina
basil
wherever(with ruth)

Laughs  :D
Beryl  :D
sailing  ;)
hill  8)
broken or basil  8)
romeo  :P
sultans  :P

acoustic set
water or portobello or why worry  8)
taormina :P
privateering  ;)

speedway  8)
telegraph  8)

encore
brothers  8)
piper or wherever  :P
local hero  8)

I think is a good set-list past-to present

 :wave :wave



 

Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: vgonis on March 19, 2015, 04:16:04 PM
Just hoping to get a real upbeat  treatment, extended solo and a bell!
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: superval99 on March 19, 2015, 05:06:19 PM
I adore Broken Bones!   :)
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Marikablue on March 19, 2015, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: superval99 on March 19, 2015, 05:06:19 PM
I adore Broken Bones!   :)
I like this song too.......RIP J.J.Cale  :thumbsup
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: goldenheart96 on March 22, 2015, 05:20:37 PM
This one is the 2015 version of "Behind with the Rent". And what's with the mile long outtro with nothing really happening?
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: foma on March 22, 2015, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: goldenheart96 on March 22, 2015, 05:20:37 PM
This one is the 2015 version of "Behind with the Rent". And what's with the mile long outtro with nothing really happening?

Yeah, it's actually 49 (!) bars of same chord. Can be longer I guess. I don't know why it so long. Why not 96 bars? It would be a nice hint for 96ers.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 22, 2015, 06:56:40 PM
Has all to do with feeling. I wish the song was 1 or 2 minutes longer.. one of the 3 greatest tracks on Tracker!

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Lis on March 24, 2015, 06:20:03 AM
This song is groovy.  I love it!  :D
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Rail King on March 25, 2015, 10:49:55 AM
Quote from: Love Expresso on March 16, 2015, 07:31:56 AM
Yes I was literally jumping up when I first heard it as I like it so much. It might be interesting to know that on this track, Guy plays bass, not Glen.

I don't know exactly where I read that, but it is pretty sure. Man, so many posts since last Wednesday, must be nearly thousands of posts about tracker in a few days.

Maybe another one can verify about Guy playing bass on this one. Would be interesting to know on which other tracks he did that on Tracker. (I know he did on Redbud Tree).

LE

LE, I admire your admiration for this song, but while I can't say I don't like myself, I'm just wondering: Don't you think it would have needed a little more guitar action in that looooong coda? Don't you miss that at all?
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: jabbathehut on March 25, 2015, 03:12:37 PM
broken bones reminds me of some electronic synth record from the 90's that used to be on top of the pops every week.That said I am warming to it and whilst no song is a skipper yet for me this song is the the song with the most potential to be a skipper.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 25, 2015, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: Rail King on March 25, 2015, 10:49:55 AM
LE, I admire your admiration for this song, but while I can't say I don't like myself, I'm just wondering: Don't you think it would have needed a little more guitar action in that looooong coda? Don't you miss that at all?

It is not so easy to give an answer - well I just love the track you know!!  :wave  But maybe "dance" is the key - you know, this one makes me wanna mooooove.. and indeed it has done already, LE moving all up in the kitchen... his voice is soo cool, the wha wha sounds great - no, I have not missed a longer guitar solo for a minute, in fact the song is perfect as it is! The clapping!! Wow! The drumming, seems not everybody gets the cool stuff Ianto is doing here.. love it!
Enough said, there are enough other songs!  ;)

LE
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Marikablue on March 30, 2015, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: Lis on March 24, 2015, 06:20:03 AM
This song is groovy.  I love it!  :D
Agree dear Lis  :thumbsup
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Lis on March 31, 2015, 06:58:20 AM
 :D
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: mustang312 on April 06, 2015, 11:50:55 AM
one of the best songs !!

D
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: Marikablue on April 06, 2015, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: mustang312 on April 06, 2015, 11:50:55 AM
one of the best songs !!

D
Indeed. Reminds me of Early Bird. Hard to understand why EB didn't made it for the lovely Get Lucky album. If I compare Broken Bones with EB I must say that I like EB a lot more.
Title: Re: (6) Broken Bones (5:30)
Post by: RockinCat on October 22, 2015, 02:48:45 PM
Anyone notice a slight resemblance between this song and "No Can Do?"  I like this one better though.