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Title: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Marikablue on March 30, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
I know it's hard to do it, but here we go....... ;)

1) Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
2) River Towns
3) Terminal Of Tribute To
4) Broken Bones
5) Silver Eagle
6) Oklahoma Ponies
7) Lights Of Taormina
8) Hot Dog
9) Heart Of Oak
10) Beryl
11) Wherever I Go

Have a nice day  :)
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: dmg on March 30, 2015, 06:42:40 PM
1. Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
2. Skydiver
3. Terminal of Tribute To
4. Broken Bones
5. Silver Eagle
6. Oklahoma Ponies
7. Lights Of Taormina
8. Basil
9. Heart Of Oak
10. Beryl
11. Hot Dog
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: H97 on March 30, 2015, 06:53:46 PM
01. Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
02. Basil
03. River Towns
04. Skydiver
05. Terminal Of Tribute To
06. Broken Bones
07. Heart Of Oak
08. Lights Of Taormina
09. Beryl
10. Silver Eagle
11. Hot Dog
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: LoveExpresso on March 30, 2015, 06:56:26 PM
1. Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
2. Basil
3. River Towns
4. Mighty Man
5. Broken Bones
6. Beryl
7. Silver Eagle
8. Terminal Of Tribute To
9. My Heart Has Never Changed
10.Time Will End All Sorrow
11. Heart Of Oak

LE
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: jbaent on March 30, 2015, 06:57:55 PM
I will add Terminal and Oak to the 11 songs of the record, but if I have to substitute two songs, that's Mighty Man and Beryl out.
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Marikablue on March 30, 2015, 07:27:17 PM
It seems like the bonus tracks are pretty good stuff.......if you ask people here at the forum  :)

It's not a big surprise. Sometimes it's hard to understand why some great songs are left outside the album. ???
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Marijo58 on March 30, 2015, 07:29:03 PM
Quote from: dmg on March 30, 2015, 06:42:40 PM
1. Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
2. Skydiver
3. Terminal of Tribute To
4. Broken Bones
5. Silver Eagle
6. Oklahoma Ponies
7. Lights Of Taormina
8. Basil
9. Heart Of Oak
10. Beryl
11. Hot Dog

Sorry Dmg, I take your list because I've got the same!!! Thanks...
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: yontwocrows on March 30, 2015, 07:34:21 PM
I can't do it.
I tried to sort out "Mighty Man" (which is hard, because it's a grower for me, and it has such good lyrics) and "Wherever i go" (which is not so hard).

But in MUST "Terminal of Tribute to", "Oklahoma Ponies" and "My heart has never changed". So i give up and I strongly suggest a double album.  :wave
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on March 30, 2015, 07:35:00 PM

In this particular order ;D
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: K-alberto on March 30, 2015, 09:30:35 PM
01. Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
02. Basil
03. River Towns
04. Skydiver
05. My heart has never changed
06. Broken Bones
07. Heart Of Oak
08. Lights Of Taormina
09. Beryl
10. Silver Eagle
11. Hot Dog
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Lis on March 31, 2015, 06:11:47 AM
Quote from: yontwocrows on March 30, 2015, 07:34:21 PM
I can't do it.
I tried to sort out "Mighty Man" (which is hard, because it's a grower for me, and it has such good lyrics) and "Wherever i go" (which is not so hard).

But in MUST "Terminal of Tribute to", "Oklahoma Ponies" and "My heart has never changed". So i give up and I strongly suggest a double album.  :wave
Ya, I can't do it either.
The song(s) remain the same.   8) :P ::) ;D
...and we get a double album out of the lot.
 ;D
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: border_reiver on March 31, 2015, 08:54:46 AM
Oklahoma Ponies
Hot Dog
Lights of Taormina
Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
River Towns
Broken Bones
Silver Eagle
My Heart Has Never Changed
Mighty Man
Beryl
Terminal of Tribute To
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: border_reiver on March 31, 2015, 08:56:54 AM
Would somebody please start a poll with eleven possible choices? :)

It would bring a better perspective to the thread. Thank you!  :wave
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: straitsway75 on March 31, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
01 Laughs & Jokes
02 Beryl
03 Basil
04 Silver Eagle
05 Broken Bones
07 Terminal Of Tribute
08 Hot Dog
09 Long Cool Girl
10 Lights of Taormina (number 10)
11 Wherever I Go

sorry for River Towns a song that I like too much  :P
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: foma on March 31, 2015, 01:42:51 PM
To start with 'Oklahoma Ponies' is a good idea though I seriously doubt Mark would start an album with not his music and with 'kick ass' in the first line.
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Nick14 on March 31, 2015, 02:15:52 PM
1. Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
2. Basil
3. River Towns
4. Skydiver
5. Mighty Man
6. Oklahoma Ponies
7. Lights of Taormina
8. Silver Eagle
9. My Heart Has Never Changed
10.Beryl
11. Heart Of Oak
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Throttle on March 31, 2015, 05:00:09 PM
1.  Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
2.  Basil
3.  River Towns
4.  Mighty Man
5.  Broken Bones
6.  Long Cool Girl
7.  Lights Of Taormina
8.  Silver Eagle
9.  Beryl
10. Heart Of Oak
11. Time Will End All Sorrow
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: nababo on March 31, 2015, 06:32:40 PM
Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
River Towns
Broken Bones
Long Cool Girl
Lights of Taormina
Wherever I Go
Hot Dog
My Heart Has Never Changed
Terminal of Tribute To
Heart of Oak
Time Will End All Sorrow
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: nababo on March 31, 2015, 06:34:17 PM
Quote from: nababo on March 31, 2015, 06:32:40 PM
Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
River Towns
Broken Bones
Long Cool Girl
Lights of Taormina
Wherever I Go
Hot Dog
My Heart Has Never Changed
Terminal of Tribute To
Heart of Oak
Time Will End All Sorrow

Quoting myself to add that was a pity to let Skydiver, Silver eagle and Oklahoma ponies out, but life isn't fair...
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Mark Heritage on March 31, 2015, 08:37:33 PM
Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
Basil
River Towns
Skydiver
Mighty Man

Oklahoma Ponies
Silver Eagle
My Heart Has Never Changed
Long Cool Girl
Beryl
Wherever I Go

I think Oklahoma Ponies has a start/opener feel to it; it would be good to open side 2 with it, well the LP experience..

I did consider Hot Dog, but, it's too throw away for me.. I'm not keen on the sentiment behind Terminal of Tribute To..
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: tunnel85 on March 31, 2015, 09:25:34 PM
I can't do it.
Really tough for me to get a 11 track selection.
The best I can do is 9.  :)

1.  Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
2.  Basil
3.  Terminal of Tribute To
4.  Hot Dog
5.  Broken Bones
6.  Long Cool Girl
7.  Beryl
8. Skydiver
9. .38 Special

Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Marikablue on March 31, 2015, 11:07:54 PM
Quote from: tunnel85 on March 31, 2015, 09:25:34 PM

I can't do it.
Really tough for me to get a 11 track selection.
The best I can do is 9.  :)

1.  Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
2.  Basil
3.  Terminal of Tribute To
4.  Hot Dog
5.  Broken Bones
6.  Long Cool Girl
7.  Beryl
8. Skydiver
9. .38 Special
That's a surprise. Does that mean that you don't find something to love in 9 songs ?  :think
But it's good for the discussion that someone is more critical when it comes to Mark's work  :)
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: tunnel85 on April 01, 2015, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: Marikablue on March 31, 2015, 11:07:54 PM
Quote from: tunnel85 on March 31, 2015, 09:25:34 PM

I can't do it.
Really tough for me to get a 11 track selection.
The best I can do is 9.  :)

1.  Laughs And Jokes And Drinks And Smokes
2.  Basil
3.  Terminal of Tribute To
4.  Hot Dog
5.  Broken Bones
6.  Long Cool Girl
7.  Beryl
8. Skydiver
9. .38 Special
That's a surprise. Does that mean that you don't find something to love in 9 songs ?  :think
But it's good for the discussion that someone is more critical when it comes to Mark's work  :)
Not the first time I would be the villain of the piece.  ;)
I should write a review during the Easter break. As you said, it's good to have different points of view. 
About the 9 songs I did not mention : I don't like them.  Just not my taste.
I can't get used to that folky jazzy crooner style.  :-[


Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Maroretto on April 02, 2015, 11:11:41 PM
01-Terminal of Tribute To
02-Basil
03-Long Cool Girl
04-Hot Dog
05-My Heart Has Never Changed
06-Broken Bones (edit)
07-Lights of Taormina
08-Oklahoma Ponies
09-Silver Eagle
10-Beryl
11-Wherever I Go
Ghost track-Time Will End All Sorrow
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Marikablue on April 03, 2015, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: Maroretto on April 02, 2015, 11:11:41 PM
01-Terminal of Tribute To
02-Basil
03-Long Cool Girl
04-Hot Dog
05-My Heart Has Never Changed
06-Broken Bones (edit)
07-Lights of Taormina
08-Oklahoma Ponies
09-Silver Eagle
10-Beryl
11-Wherever I Go
Ghost track-Time Will End All Sorrow
First member where Laughs didn't made it......interesting  :)
Nice to know that time will end all sorrow...but I'm so damn afraid of ghosts  :lol
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: El Macho on April 05, 2015, 10:12:31 PM
01. Mighty Man (incredible intro)
02. Lights Of Taormina
03. Skydiver
04. Terminal Of Tribute To
05. Oklahoma Ponies
06. Long Cool Girl
07. Broken Bones
08. .38 Special
09. Basil
10. River Towns
11. Wherever I Go

Out :
Laughs & Jokes & Drinks & Smoke : too celtic
Beryl : too DS-like
Silver Eagle : too slow
Hot Dog :very good but you have to choose
My Heart Has Never Changed : too slow
Time Will End All Sorrow : too slow
Heart Of Oak : too short
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: nababo on April 06, 2015, 06:52:19 PM
Well, after my superdeluxe boxset had finally arrived, I've listened to the songs in a proper way and have to make some changes in my 11 choices. But I guess it happens all the time, no? Sometimes a song can appeal more than another one, and it changes from time to time

My original 11 would be:

Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
River Towns
Broken Bones
Long Cool Girl
Lights of Taormina
Wherever I Go
Hot Dog
My Heart Has Never Changed
Terminal of Tribute To
Heart of Oak
Time Will End All Sorrow

And now I cut
My Heart Has Never Changed
Time Will End All Sorrow

To enter with
Skydiver
Beryl

Beryl being a supergrower after somo more accurate listenings. I think it has its space in the record.
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Guitarman1972 on April 07, 2015, 09:14:03 PM
My 11 picks:

Beryl
Hot Dog
River Towns
Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
Skydiver
Lights of Taormina
Silver Eagle
Heart Of Oak
Terminal Of Tribute To
Oklahoma Ponies
Wherever I Go
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Marikablue on April 07, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: Guitarman1972 on April 07, 2015, 09:14:03 PM
My 11 picks:

Beryl
Hot Dog
River Towns
Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes
Skydiver
Lights of Taormina
Silver Eagle
Heart Of Oak
Terminal Of Tribute To
Oklahoma Ponies
Wherever I Go
Not a bad album at all..... :D
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Guitarman1972 on April 07, 2015, 10:42:32 PM
Quote
Not a bad album at all..... :D

I know, Marikablue. This is how the album actually should have been!  ;)

I'm a huge J.J. Cale fan and can hear the influence, but the problem with Broken Bones is that it's way to long for what is happening within the song. It's to repetitive. Fade out could have started at around 3:10 or something.

Anyway, a problem with the Knopfler album these days is the order in which songs are put on the album and there is no dynamic balance between the songs. You can't put to many ballads on 1 album, cause then the listener dozes off in a deep sleep after 3 songs. Privateering for example really not coherent as album. What they could have done for example with Privateering is have one disc with the blues/rock 'n roll stuff and the other disc with the celtic/folk stuff.
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Vesper on April 08, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
1. Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes (This MUST be the first song of the album, perfect for that)
2. Oklahoma Ponies
3. River Towns
4. Skydiver
5. Terminal of Tribute to
6. Broken Bones
7. Long Cool Girl
8. Lights of Taormina
9. Silver Eagle
10. Beryl
10,5. Heart of Oak
11. Wherever I Go (This MUST be the last song of the album, perfect for that)
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: yontwocrows on April 08, 2015, 03:27:51 PM
Quote from: Klaas Bouke on April 08, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
10,5. Heart of Oak

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: nababo on April 08, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: Klaas Bouke on April 08, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
1. Laughs and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes (This MUST be the first song of the album, perfect for that)
2. Oklahoma Ponies
3. River Towns
4. Skydiver
5. Terminal of Tribute to
6. Broken Bones
7. Long Cool Girl
8. Lights of Taormina
9. Silver Eagle
10. Beryl
10,5. Heart of Oak
11. Wherever I Go (This MUST be the last song of the album, perfect for that)

You're cheating!  ;D ;D ;D
Can I use it too?
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Vesper on April 09, 2015, 10:31:07 AM
Heart of Oak is such a short song, but also beautiful I thought I could put it in this way ;D
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: Rail King on April 13, 2015, 09:51:50 AM
Unlike with "Privateering", where I really didn't understand how "Follow the Ribbon" could NOT have been chosen as the closing number, I think this the time the album is very rounded, consistent and works perfectly the way it composed.

And unlike some of you, I don't mind that whole bonus track thing. Some songs - "Terminal of Tribute to" comes to mind - would disturb, if not destroy the mood of Tracker, the album. They're no less good than the chosen 11, but are somehow better off standing beside them. I love to listen through whole albums, and Tracker is great for that, while I tend to listen to those bonus tracks one at a time, whenever I'm in the mood for one of them.
Title: Re: Which 11 songs should be at the standard album ?
Post by: brickbat on April 17, 2015, 12:33:20 PM
To my ears it seems that the overall sound of the tracks on the bonus disc is different from the tracks on the regular album. Compared with the regular album, all tracks on the bonus disc have a distinct layer of echo (reverb) over them. Could it be that the bonus cd was remixed differently on purpose, or by different people? Should I put this topic on the Guy Fletcher forum? Any suggestions and opinions welcome.