A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jarle on April 16, 2015, 06:26:53 AM
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Hi!
It seems that Mark did a performance at the world premiere of the new VW Transporter in Amsterdam last night:
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https://twitter.com/vwgroup_en/status/588433320691822592
https://twitter.com/HuelvaWagen/status/588445494151663616
http://www.deutsche-handwerks-zeitung.de/mark-knopfler-sorgt-bei-weltpremiere-des-vw-t6-fuer-stimmung/150/2395/290655
Interesting to see the red Telecaster. WOL, I suppose...
-Jarle
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Thanks for the pic. Yes, WOL is a good guess.
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They played sultans, walk of life, so far away and Romeo.
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Playback?
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Only DS songs! Wow, that must have hurt...
Even a rock star must pay the bills and feed the family.
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Playback?
I would have killed to see irony of the late '70s original song as playback being performed by the 65 year old folk musician. What a sight ;D
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Another "It's Money That Matters" show...
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Think positively! This is surely partly because of the tour coming closer. And we hope that Mark felt comfortable to play sultans...
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Before the Privateering tour he did another "It's Money That Matters" show for Range Rover in which he played Walk of Life, Money For Nothing etc, and... they were not played during the tour.
I guess that rich people money can't buy things that poor old fans can not.
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Before the Privateering tour he did another "It's Money That Matters" show for Range Rover in which he played Walk of Life, Money For Nothing etc, and... they were not played during the tour.
I guess that rich people money can't buy things that poor old fans can not.
Maybe yes. But think also the audience in these private parties. Mark starts to play Privateering and people will think that when this warm-up artist will quit (might occur in normal tour too, of course) and the man from Dire Straits will appear to the stage.
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I guess that rich people money can't buy things that poor old fans can not.
We are the lucky ones! We will hear the new music, not old stuff he would rather not play! ;D
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I guess that rich people money can't buy things that poor old fans can not.
We are the lucky ones! We will hear the new music, not old stuff he would rather not play! ;D
Oh yes, don´t get me wrong, I would pay more if I know I won´t get any DS songs and I'll get some rare MK solo songs, but the fact it´s that MK plays the DS songs he refuse to play on tour because bla bla bla reasons when there is big money on the table, that's principles...
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Myabe its like last time with the Range rover gig there's some sort of sponsorship with VW for this tour like Range rover in 2013
also thank goodness I wasn't at this one ,walk of life, so far away, and Romeo and Juliet , MY THREE WORST SONGS KNOPFLER HAS DONE !!! it would of been one long pee break and back for sultans:)),
maybe sax in sultans this tour ??? a slowed down version with sax break in the middle ??????????
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Myabe its like last time with the Range rover gig there's some sort of sponsorship with VW for this tour like Range rover in 2013
also thank goodness I wasn't at this one ,walk of life, so far away, and Romeo and Juliet , MY THREE WORST SONGS KNOPFLER HAS DONE !!! it would of been one long pee break and back for sultans:)),
maybe sax in sultans this tour ??? a slowed down version with sax break in the middle ??????????
It depends how much VW paid for it...
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Myabe its like last time with the Range rover gig there's some sort of sponsorship with VW for this tour like Range rover in 2013
also thank goodness I wasn't at this one ,walk of life, so far away, and Romeo and Juliet , MY THREE WORST SONGS KNOPFLER HAS DONE !!! it would of been one long pee break and back for sultans:)),
maybe sax in sultans this tour ??? a slowed down version with sax break in the middle ??????????
It depends how much VW paid for it...
If not enough, then it´s old VW Kleinbusses on the tour.
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Does this mean now that MK and Band will be transported in these? Looks like a Reinhardt amp ;D
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Another link, in English.
http://www.volkswagenag.com/content/vwcorp/info_center/en/news/2015/04/knopfler.html (http://www.volkswagenag.com/content/vwcorp/info_center/en/news/2015/04/knopfler.html)
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Didn't Guy say in his forum some weeks ago that they probably go with the mercs again?
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Didn't Guy say in his forum some weeks ago that they probably go with the mercs again?
They'll probably paint the VW logo on the merc ;D
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I did my research again: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=826316957454543
Short video of sultans
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From Guy this morning:
"The liaison with VW will benefit the tour greatly, with ground transportation of the highest standard. "
So does this mean they will be touring in VW camper vans? Perhaps they will also save on hotel bills! :lol
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The one who pays always has the highest standard :P
First the mercedes, then the landrover and now the VW :)
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From Guy this morning:
"The liaison with VW will benefit the tour greatly, with ground transportation of the highest standard. "
Sure hope it's one of them new Passat Variant's. Then I can say I ride in MK style ;D
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GF: "What the fans get is a FAR FAR richer experience."
Since when did they start caring about what the fans wants to hear and not what MK decides to put on the setlist? This theory doesn't resonate very well with practice.
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I guess that rich people money can't buy things that poor old fans can not.
We are the lucky ones! We will hear the new music, not old stuff he would rather not play! ;D
Well, you are one.
Remember, if it weren't for all this "old stuff" then he wouldn't be releasing his albums today.
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Didn't Guy say in his forum some weeks ago that they probably go with the mercs again?
They'll probably paint the VW logo on the merc ;D
Split screen microbuses from the 60s are the coolest! 8)
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This may lead to subtle references during the tour.
"...in the Beetle Continental with the brandy..."
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I wish one of those billionaires or corporates pay a little extra and ask MK to play Tunnel of Love again, just to know that we are not losing anything ;D
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would be happy if he changed tr for tol.Surely they must get bored of tr every night.
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I wish one of those billionaires or corporates pay a little extra and ask MK to play Tunnel of Love again, just to know that we are not losing anything ;D
It sure would be fun to know the price tag for that.
But most likely it is that one and only thing that money can't buy. Gotta have some principles left ::)
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Once you sell some of your principles, the rest depend on what's your situation before a big offerig of money... if his accountants run away to Paraguayyyyyyy, with all his money, boy, he will play Tunnel of love and whatever is needed!
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The one who pays always has the highest standard :P
First the mercedes, then the landrover and now the VW :)
Next tour Daewoo perhaps? ;D
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The one who pays always has the highest standard :P
First the mercedes, then the landrover and now the VW :)
Next tour Daewoo perhaps? ;D
Nope...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Privateering_Mark_Knopfler.jpg)
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The one who pays always has the highest standard :P
First the mercedes, then the landrover and now the VW :)
Next tour Daewoo perhaps? ;D
Nope...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Privateering_Mark_Knopfler.jpg)
;D
I'm envisioning all 8 of them piled into this van, sitting on their instument cases, taking turns at the steering wheel. Which one is going to have to change the tire? At least they have loads of spares...
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But isn´t it wise to play for VW and get a sponsorship for the tour cars and not putting those costs to ticket prices?
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But isn´t it wise to play for VW and get a sponsorship for the tour cars and not putting those costs to ticket prices?
Agree
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But isn´t it wise to play for VW and get a sponsorship for the tour cars and not putting those costs to ticket prices?
that's not the point
Agree as well. Story has two sides
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Does anybody know who played second guitar and bass?
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But isn´t it wise to play for VW and get a sponsorship for the tour cars and not putting those costs to ticket prices?
Do you really think he did this gig to keep the ticket prices down for us?
IMO these things are done to help fund the tour rather than take it out of his own pocket. Probably the same with the recent offer on the litho.
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But isn´t it wise to play for VW and get a sponsorship for the tour cars and not putting those costs to ticket prices?
Do you really think he did this gig to keep the ticket prices down for us?
Well, I don't think that it has been an active thought. But I was meaning partly what you wrote, this is because of the tour costs.
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Does anybody know who played second guitar and bass?
Guy, or the keyboards of Guy?
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Does anybody know who played second guitar and bass?
Second guitar is Robbie McIntosh, the bass player looks like Dave Bronze to me, but i´m not sure.
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Once you sell some of your principles, the rest depend on what's your situation before a big offerig of money... if his accountants run away to Paraguayyyyyyy, with all his money, boy, he will play Tunnel of love and whatever is needed!
Let's start worldwide donations to pay out our own AMIT show with the songs we want to hear
Excellent idea ! Private gig for real fans with TOL on top of the list. :D songs we want to hear rather than what he chooses to play.
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Once you sell some of your principles, the rest depend on what's your situation before a big offerig of money... if his accountants run away to Paraguayyyyyyy, with all his money, boy, he will play Tunnel of love and whatever is needed!
Let's start worldwide donations to pay out our own AMIT show with the songs we want to hear
But seriously? I'm in :)
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Oh, are we doing this one again? Geez...
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I recall an article, or post somwhere, that TOL was his fathers favorite song. When his father died some time ago, MK lost interest in playing that particular song, and has never played it since.
If it is true that this was the reason for not playing that song anymore, it would be irrelevant asking for it, even maybe a bit disrespectful to him.
If it is true of course. I dont remember where it was written.
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Once you sell some of your principles, the rest depend on what's your situation before a big offerig of money... if his accountants run away to Paraguayyyyyyy, with all his money, boy, he will play Tunnel of love and whatever is needed!
Let's start worldwide donations to pay out our own AMIT show with the songs we want to hear
But seriously? I'm in :)
No way I will be in. We would never agree on what he should play!
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Once you sell some of your principles, the rest depend on what's your situation before a big offerig of money... if his accountants run away to Paraguayyyyyyy, with all his money, boy, he will play Tunnel of love and whatever is needed!
Let's start worldwide donations to pay out our own AMIT show with the songs we want to hear
But seriously? I'm in :)
No way I will be in. We would never agree on what he should play!
Not for me either. MK should play what he is happy playing!
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I recall an article, or post somwhere, that TOL was his fathers favorite song. When his father died some time ago, MK lost interest in playing that particular song, and has never played it since.
If it is true that this was the reason for not playing that song anymore, it would be irrelevant asking for it, even maybe a bit disrespectful to him.
If it is true of course. I dont remember where it was written.
It was GF´s forum, at least one post there from a peter de mooij:
Hi Doc, im not sure if it was mentioned here or that I read it somewhere else but is it true that mark doesn't want to play tunnel of love anymore because it was his late father's favourite song? i was listening to an old '91 bootleg version of TOL and alltough i respect marks wishes (off course) i do think its a marvellous epic song ! i hope someday mark will start playing it again! if not I'll allways have beautiful recordings to listen to..
GF Answer: I doubt it.
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Once you sell some of your principles, the rest depend on what's your situation before a big offerig of money... if his accountants run away to Paraguayyyyyyy, with all his money, boy, he will play Tunnel of love and whatever is needed!
Let's start worldwide donations to pay out our own AMIT show with the songs we want to hear
I'm not in because I would feel a little embarrassed explaining to my wife why we no longer have a home ;D
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I'm not in because I would feel a little embarrassed explaining to my wife why we no longer have a home ;D
LOL
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I'm totally IN for this :thumbsup.There are enough fans to make this a reality. Question is how much do we need to raise to pay for one show? And not only we will argue about what songs to play but also Where to play? ???
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I really don't get the logic of these corporate gigs, it undermines MKs stance under the banner of creativity that he doesn't play Straits tunes to the masses any more.
So he can do a gig for private gain playing DS numbers but a charity event on a big scale is out of the question. Doesn't add up to me.
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a poll to decide the songs, majority wins
where ? MK's house :)
Which one??!!! ;D
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btw anyone can pay his/her own 'show'
MK gives guitar lessons for £ 3500 / hour
How do you know that?
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I could only manage to attend my first ever DS gig only in 1992 and then did this very silly thing : a attended another gig just one month after the first one. Alas both night were TR performance.
So, why the people that weren't lucky to hear TOL in the Straits days should be punished?
Since I follow Mark I have heard TR and RJ over 50 times.
Maybe he's just waiting that I don't attend his shows anymore :think
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They played sultans, walk of life, so far away and Romeo.
And two more songs: Your Latest Trick and Local Hero.
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I also attented many MK shows, and heard TR many times and had to wait until Alan Clark and Chris White formed The Straits to listen Tunnel Of Love live...
Also during the MK and friends concerts, MK played Your Latest Trick, that I never heard live, except the day I attended the concert, that day he choosed Baloney Again instead, that I've heard too many times already... The Straits played also Your Latest Tricks for me.
Ironic that The Straits amended my expectations when I attend a MK concert, but they playing that songs were better than MK not playing them.
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I also attented many MK shows, and heard TR many times and had to wait until Alan Clark and Chris White formed The Straits to listen Tunnel Of Love live...
Also during the MK and friends concerts, MK played Your Latest Trick, that I never heard live, except the day I attended the concert, that day he choosed Baloney Again instead, that I've heard too many times already... The Straits played also Your Latest Tricks for me.
Ironic that The Straits amended my expectations when I attend a MK concert, but they playing that songs were better than MK not playing them.
Ironic indeed. Most of us moan about them, or some aspect of them, but at the end of the day they play music that pleases the majority of the crowd first and foremost and not music that that pleases themselves. :think :think :think
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Does this mean now that MK and Band will be transported in these? Looks like a Reinhardt amp ;D
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mYutamTW--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/jelvjwfsx4v71yyion7f.jpg)
Thats one ugly car..
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Mark Knopfler - Amsterdam at the VW T6 2015
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBisaKbxpLc
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I also attented many MK shows, and heard TR many times and had to wait until Alan Clark and Chris White formed The Straits to listen Tunnel Of Love live...
Also during the MK and friends concerts, MK played Your Latest Trick, that I never heard live, except the day I attended the concert, that day he choosed Baloney Again instead, that I've heard too many times already... The Straits played also Your Latest Tricks for me.
Ironic that The Straits amended my expectations when I attend a MK concert, but they playing that songs were better than MK not playing them.
Ironic indeed. Most of us moan about them, or some aspect of them, but at the end of the day they play music that pleases the majority of the crowd first and foremost and not music that that pleases themselves. :think :think :think
I saw the Straits twice last year. I thoroughly enjoyed the shows. They did a fabulous job :thumbsup I had an incredible time. Me and my ffriends got to hang out with Chris White , Terrence and the rest of the band after the show. That would never ever happen with MK. Best of all I got to hear DS songs played live because I never had the opportunity to. You could imagine when TOL was played. I was the happiest soul on the planet those two nights.
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They played sultans, walk of life, so far away and Romeo.
And two more songs: Your Latest Trick and Local Hero.
Your latest Trick could be one for the next tour when Nigel is around i think......
But he wil not be Antwerp :smack :smack :smack :smack :smack
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Does anybody know who played second guitar and bass?
Second guitar is Robbie McIntosh, the bass player looks like Dave Bronze to me, but i´m not sure.
Will they also be part of this year's tour band line up?
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Does anybody know who played second guitar and bass?
Second guitar is Robbie McIntosh, the bass player looks like Dave Bronze to me, but i´m not sure.
Will they also be part of this year's tour band line up?
No. Same line up than in 2013.
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Sax replacing Paul Franklin's solo on WOL I see. Perhaps on the upcoming tour...
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Sax replacing Paul Franklin's solo on WOL I see. Perhaps on the upcoming tour...
I never heard that song live and I want to hear it live.. If he plays it on a gig I do not attend.. :smack :smack
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Your Latest Trick? Wow...
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Your Latest Trick? Wow...
I do not see the point of playing YLT only for the VW gig in Amsterdam. Last time they did that one was more 20 years ago.
I think it will be one for the next tour..
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Your Latest Trick? Wow...
I do not see the point of playing YLT only for the VW gig in Amsterdam. Last time they did that one was more 20 years ago.
I think it will be one for the next tour..
Some of the 2002 charity gigs so 13 years. I think he played it at other gigs of this sort though. What was the Range Rover set again?
Edit: walk of life, sailing to bla bla, romeo, sultans, MONEY FOR NOTHING, brothers, local hero, so far away.
So no YLT then! Maybe at another PR gig or the Scottsdale one.
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From Guy's forum 3 years ago:
Yes Indeed..The band was MK, myself, Glenn Worf, Richard Bennett, Ian Thomas and Nigel Hitchcock on Sax. The setlist was....Walk of Life, Sailing, Romeo, Sultans, Money, Brothers, Local Hero, So Far Away.
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Do we have a setlist from the Scottsdale?
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Do we have a setlist from the Scottsdale?
I don't think we ever did get the set but there were videos of Sultans and BIA. And a great version of BIA it was too.
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Walk Of Life with sax... Never a fan witnessed that. And never will, thats only for those who pays a lot of money to pay the tour expenses.
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I do not see the point of playing YLT only for the VW gig in Amsterdam. Last time they did that one was more 20 years ago.
I think it will be one for the next tour..
Sorry for my scepticism, but I strongly doubt it.
For the life of me I can't believe he'll play Your Latest Trick within a framework of the upcoming tour, that's a thing from quite a different opera.
Most likely VW made them such an offer, that was hard to refuse.
Well, maybe some ladies of a certain age, who are always thrilled with this song, were there. :)
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Walk Of Life with sax... Never a fan witnessed that. And never will, thats only for those who pays a lot of money to pay the tour expenses.
Kinda glad I never heard it with sax, honestly. :)
But then again, I liked the cajunized version with Geraint Watkins best of them all.
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Most likely VW made them such an offer, that was hard to refuse.
I don't think that YLT was such a big hit so I doubt that someone at VW really wanted them to play it. Must have been a die-hard fan, then.
Would have made more sense for them to "demand" MFN or BIA.
So maybe MK himself wanted to play YLT...?
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Most likely VW made them such an offer, that was hard to refuse.
I don't think that YLT was such a big hit so I doubt that someone at VW really wanted them to play it. Must have been a die-hard fan, then.
Would have made more sense for them to "demand" MFN or BIA.
So maybe MK himself wanted to play YLT...?
I think they just did it so Nig wasn't twiddling his thumbs.
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Leaves me wondering how many private gigs there are we don't know about, and what songs were played... :think Private Investigations? On Every Street? Tunnel of Love? Water of Love? Don't even want to think about it :disbelief
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My humble opinion: I don't like VW and I don't like private (corporate) gigs. But if it helps to subsidise the tour or the studio one has to live with it, I'd say. As a compromise the management could offer a soundboard audio recording from these gigs for a small fee.
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My humble opinion: I don't like VW and I don't like private (corporate) gigs. But if it helps to subsidise the tour or the studio one has to live with it, I'd say. As a compromise the management could offer a soundboard audio recording from these gigs for a small fee.
I do think there is a line or two about that in the contract which say they can't unfortunately..
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I think they just did it so Nig wasn't twiddling his thumbs.
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Nail on head.
Perhaps he's even finally retired MFN from the corporate gigs now?
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My humble opinion: I don't like VW and I don't like private (corporate) gigs. But if it helps to subsidise the tour or the studio one has to live with it, I'd say. As a compromise the management could offer a soundboard audio recording from these gigs for a small fee.
I do think there is a line or two about that in the contract which say they can't unfortunately..
I think you're right.
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I don't think that YLT was such a big hit ...
Still the golden oldie, a retired seducer.
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In the Netherlands it was and it is often heard on different radio stations..... :wave
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They were there in Hannover as well.
http://motorblock.at/vw-t6-t-time-hannover/
Seems like there is no sax in SOS.
And is that Dave Bronze on bass again?
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They were there in Hannover as well.
http://motorblock.at/vw-t6-t-time-hannover/
Seems like there is no sax in SOS.
And is that Dave Bronze on bass again?
He still got it though! I hope just not for a certain price tag :(
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Also during the MK and friends concerts, MK played Your Latest Trick, that I never heard live, except the day I attended the concert, that day he choosed Baloney Again instead, that I've heard too many times already... The Straits played also Your Latest Tricks for me.
I attended all 4 2002 gigs and IMHO Baloney Again was a better choice, although not as popular as YLT.
Despite the eight shows attended in 2001 I had no memories of a really great 2001 live version.
In 2005 I managed to get it in A'dam or R'dam and though "not good".
But I really enjoyed the 2002 version with great first solo from Robbie before Mark took over him.
Regarding YLT I had never been fond of it, MK in Beaulieu had a sore throat so the best one was probably on the opening night. But honestly I have no memory of it. For me the highlight of these 2002 shows were BA and WYM.
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Same setlist for Hannover?
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They were there in Hannover as well.
http://motorblock.at/vw-t6-t-time-hannover/
Seems like there is no sax in SOS.
And is that Dave Bronze on bass again?
Strangle feeling.
Mark as a VW car's seller.
Should have preformed that one :
Don't you get it I don't want to buy your car
Don't you get it I don't want to buy it
Don't you get it I don't want to buy your car
Don't you get it I don't want to buy your car
Cause I gotta be a free man to run
I gotta be a free man to ride
I gotta be a free man to run
Cause I gotta be a free man to ride
I gotta be a free man to run
I gotta be a free man to ride
I gotta be a free man to run
Cause I gotta be a free man to ride
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Same setlist for Hannover?
I asked Guy on the forum and he responded 'SLQ'.
What does that mean?
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Setlistquestion. I think he didn't understand that you were talking about setlist of shows that are history, or he doesn't want to talk at all about setlists
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Setlistquestion. I think he didn't understand that you were talking about setlist of shows that are history, or he doesn't want to talk at all about setlists
Thanks Ingrid, makes sense now. Too bad Guy didn't confirm.
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Asked Guy again, in a different way, he says there was only one VW show :hmm
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He will not answer this one: Probably only DS songs on the setlist. I think he is having enough off the discussion about that.