A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Almost Straits => Topic started by: jbaent on October 20, 2015, 12:48:34 PM
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Brothers In Band, the Spanish tribute band, that in 2008 when they were rehearsing were confused by MK, Guy etc by a recording of them being played outside Atarfe venue, are going to tour Germany next year!!!
These are the dates, and if you live there, or close to, believe me, you can not loose the chance to see them!
05/04/16 KOBLENZ CONLOG ARENA
06/04/16 ISERLOHN PARKTHEATER
08/04/16 AURICH SPARKASSEN ARENA AURICH
10/04/16 BREMEN MUSICAL THEATER BREMEN
12/04/16 HAMBURG CCH – SAAL 2
13/04/16 MAGDEBURG STADHALLE MAGDEBURG
14/04/16 DRESDEN ALTER SCHLACHTHOF
16/04/16 JENA SPARKASSEN-ARENA
17/04/16 ASCHAFFENBURG STADHALLE AM SCHLOSS
19/04/16 SAARBRÜCKEN SAARLANDHALLE SAARBRÜCKEN
21/04/16 NÜRNBERG MEISTERSINGERHALLE
26/04/16 BERLIN TEMPODROM
You can buy tickets for their concerts in this link: http://brothersinband.com/bibwp/?page_id=12 (http://brothersinband.com/bibwp/?page_id=12)
After several years of touring Spain extensively, they are going to play abroad and bring their show to Germany. I know them from their beguining and when MK, Guy etc confused them with a recording of them, they were just at their beguining, they have IMPROVED a lot and their show is impresive.
The videos doesn´t make justice to how good the show it is (as videos doesnt make justice to the own MK either...), but it gives an idea, but believe me, if you have the chance to go to their shows, YOU HAVE TO!, you are not gonna regret it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUCW8wDBZwQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66b2vr-bZbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmRKK43f-3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9d_22s4D8
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I wanted to go and see them end April in Paris but 50€ cheapest price.....
really i think it is too much whatever their talent is
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The price is set by the promoter so think how confident the promoter is about the band to put that price.
I saw them three times and they will give you back every single euro with their performance. Actually it's cheap when the show ends, they are not great, they are unbelievable!
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From what one can see from the videos, they seem to be much better than various ex-member tribute bands, lol. Anyhow, I am not interested in such things, but good luck to them, seems they do it well and with respect.
Bye the way, I am wondering when the first tribute band will have the eggs to play TOTT ;)
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For the worst the only available seats that are not "only by pair" are on the back.
So I gave up trying to buy a single tix, they can go to hell with their silly "you can't leave a seat alone" policy.
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Hats off to them, they've nailed MK. So much better than any of the ex DS member tribute bands. I'd happily go and see them especially as I'm sure they are doing it for the love of MK. Unlike the others which just don't feel right to me.
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Hats off to them, they've nailed MK. So much better than any of the ex DS member tribute bands. I'd happily go and see them especially as I'm sure they are doing it for the love of MK. Unlike the others which just don't feel right to me.
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I'm not one really interested in tribute bands myself but if they come near me I'll definitely go to see them. They sound so good and it's the only chance I'll get to hear those great songs played live again. 50 Euro is cheap compared to the cost of Mark's tickets when most of the songs on the set list are ho hum.
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Hats off to them, they've nailed MK. So much better than any of the ex DS member tribute bands. I'd happily go and see them especially as I'm sure they are doing it for the love of MK. Unlike the others which just don't feel right to me.
:thumbs
I'm not one really interested in tribute bands myself but if they come near me I'll definitely go to see them. They sound so good and it's the only chance I'll get to hear those great songs played live again. 50 Euro is cheap compared to the cost of Mark's tickets when most of the songs on the set list are ho hum.
I know they are a very good tribute band, but 50 euros seems very expensive to me, compared to the price of MK tickets. MK has a lot of overheads to account for - private plane, catering, more musicians, and a large entourage of techs and roadies, etc, which tribute bands don't usually have to pay, at least not on the scale of an MK tour. I think MK tickets are pretty cheap compared to other artists of his calibre.
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Hats off to them, they've nailed MK. So much better than any of the ex DS member tribute bands. I'd happily go and see them especially as I'm sure they are doing it for the love of MK. Unlike the others which just don't feel right to me.
:thumbs
I'm not one really interested in tribute bands myself but if they come near me I'll definitely go to see them. They sound so good and it's the only chance I'll get to hear those great songs played live again. 50 Euro is cheap compared to the cost of Mark's tickets when most of the songs on the set list are ho hum.
I know they are a very good tribute band, but 50 euros seems very expensive to me, compared to the price of MK tickets. MK has a lot of overheads to account for - private plane, catering, more musicians to pay and a large entourage of techs and roadies, etc. I think MK tickets are pretty cheap compared to other artists of his calibre.
A lot of his overheads are unnecessary though. e.g. the private jet. They lead the life of riley whist on the road. :)
Paul Carrack is touring the UK just now and tickets cost between £30-40. Great venues too! If I recall, last time I paid about £70 to see Mark in aircraft hangars.
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Hats off to them, they've nailed MK. So much better than any of the ex DS member tribute bands. I'd happily go and see them especially as I'm sure they are doing it for the love of MK. Unlike the others which just don't feel right to me.
:thumbs
I'm not one really interested in tribute bands myself but if they come near me I'll definitely go to see them. They sound so good and it's the only chance I'll get to hear those great songs played live again. 50 Euro is cheap compared to the cost of Mark's tickets when most of the songs on the set list are ho hum.
I know they are a very good tribute band, but 50 euros seems very expensive to me, compared to the price of MK tickets. MK has a lot of overheads to account for - private plane, catering, more musicians to pay and a large entourage of techs and roadies, etc. I think MK tickets are pretty cheap compared to other artists of his calibre.
A lot of his overheads are unnecessary though. e.g. the private jet. They lead the life of riley whist on the road. :)
Paul Carrack is touring the UK just now and tickets cost between £30-40. Great venues too! If I recall, last time I paid about £70 to see Mark in aircraft hangars.
Paul Carrack is only touring in the UK and the Netherlands - not the rest of Europe, US and Canada, so probably doesn't need a private jet - buses would probably do! I don't begrudge the private jet and catering for them one bit.
I have my tickets for the last tour in front of me and I paid £50 for Manchester and Newcastle, £66 for the RAH and £55 for the O2 - all front row seats, so I don't call that expensive. Where did you pay £70?
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I insist that the prices are set by the promoters. In Spain the Brothers in band tickets cost depending if the venue is a theatre or other kind of hall, about 30 euros, which you can think is too much as well, but not only they are very good in musical terms but they also play with a band of 9 musicians, like the 92 DS band, a very good lights show and the techs that are needed to manage 9 musicians and their equipment that for a tribute band is very good and professional.
Actually the 30 euros in Spain, when the show ends, is very cheap when you think of what a great performance you just saw.
If in Paris the promoter set a 50 euros price, to me that means that the French promoter have a great confidence in the band, and from what I know, they are not going to disappoint.
I didn't check how much the tickets in Germany cost, but I know that the German promoter was highly impressed by the band.
I strongly encourage any of you to go and see them if you have the chance, despite the price, you are going to enjoy the show very very much for sure, Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
For a Spanish tribute band, is a triumph to be touring outside Spain and they totally deserve it and if they keep working so hard they touring Europe and who knows if across the pond will be something regular, they totally deserve it and they gained their fame show by show.
And Oscar Rosende is the most humble and nice person you can meet!
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I have my tickets for the last tour in front of me and I paid £50 for Manchester and Newcastle, £66 for the RAH and £55 for the O2 - all front row seats, so I don't call that expensive. Where did you pay £70?
That would be "usual fee, plus expenses." ;)
Maybe I was thinking of RAH tickets 2013. I did say "if I recall" and "about" in my post to be fair. :)
I'm not even complaining about the price of tickets for Mark anyway! I originally said that I didn't think the cost to see Brothers In Band was that bad!!!
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Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
He is good, thumbs up for that, but let´s keep a sense of proportion. MK92 consider some people arguably among the world best guitarists. Also we should not forget that MK invented such a unique style that in the end only he can produce to perfection (until today, because thats not so much about speed, but about his fingers, soul, tone...). Also phrasing is of course a huge part and one major strength of MK playing, which is no issue for someone covering because they almost exclusively use all phrases already played/invented by MK.
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Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
He is good, thumbs up for that, but let´s keep a sense of proportion. MK92 consider some people arguably among the world best guitarists. Also we should not forget that MK invented such a unique style that in the end only he can produce to perfection (until today, because thats not so much about speed, but about his fingers, soul, tone...). Also phrasing is of course a huge part and one major strength of MK playing, which is no issue for someone covering because they almost exclusively use all phrases already played/invented by MK.
Indeed.
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Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
He is good, thumbs up for that, but let´s keep a sense of proportion. MK92 consider some people arguably among the world best guitarists. Also we should not forget that MK invented such a unique style that in the end only he can produce to perfection (until today, because thats not so much about speed, but about his fingers, soul, tone...). Also phrasing is of course a huge part and one major strength of MK playing, which is no issue for someone covering because they almost exclusively use all phrases already played/invented by MK.
That's what a tribute band do, don't they?
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Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
He is good, thumbs up for that, but let´s keep a sense of proportion. MK92 consider some people arguably among the world best guitarists. Also we should not forget that MK invented such a unique style that in the end only he can produce to perfection (until today, because thats not so much about speed, but about his fingers, soul, tone...). Also phrasing is of course a huge part and one major strength of MK playing, which is no issue for someone covering because they almost exclusively use all phrases already played/invented by MK.
That's what a tribute band do, don't they?
Indeed, thats why I just wanted to put a little bit into perspective the statement on Oscar Rosende plays same level as MK92, or MK whatever year. (I´d also doubt he would say that about himself).
Generally, I still just don´t get it, being a musician myself, how such talented guys "waste" nearly all their musical life in trying to copy someone else rather than putting all their efforts and creativity to create own stuff.
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Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
He is good, thumbs up for that, but let´s keep a sense of proportion. MK92 consider some people arguably among the world best guitarists. Also we should not forget that MK invented such a unique style that in the end only he can produce to perfection (until today, because thats not so much about speed, but about his fingers, soul, tone...). Also phrasing is of course a huge part and one major strength of MK playing, which is no issue for someone covering because they almost exclusively use all phrases already played/invented by MK.
That's what a tribute band do, don't they?
Indeed, thats why I just wanted to put a little bit into perspective the statement on Oscar Rosende plays same level as MK92, or MK whatever year. (I´d also doubt he would say that about himself).
Generally, I still just don´t get it, being a musician myself, how such talented guys "waste" nearly all their musical life in trying to copy someone else rather than putting all their efforts and creativity to create own stuff.
Well as "MK" in a trib band myself I'll answer that.
It's extraordinarily difficult to make it as an original artist. Mark was lucky in that a well connected dj picked him up, but despite his extraordinary talent he could just as easily have faded into nothing.
I've known plenty of bands who I thought were amazing who never made it because they never had that lucky break. The music business is a jungle.
I was in originals band who worked with Portishead and had a minor hit in France - we may not have be n good enough or we may not have been lucky, either way it didn't work out.
So I'm left with two options, give it all up and be in a shitty pub band for a hobby or play really high quality music in theatres as a tribute band - the only real option for live unsigned musicians.
I chose the latter, I have a ball, the audience enjoy it and I make some money.
It's nothing to do with artistic integrity and everything to do with economics of music these days. Personally, I think my own guitar playing is shit hot, but I can't make money with that. So I play like someone else to make money 😉
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Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
He is good, thumbs up for that, but let´s keep a sense of proportion. MK92 consider some people arguably among the world best guitarists. Also we should not forget that MK invented such a unique style that in the end only he can produce to perfection (until today, because thats not so much about speed, but about his fingers, soul, tone...). Also phrasing is of course a huge part and one major strength of MK playing, which is no issue for someone covering because they almost exclusively use all phrases already played/invented by MK.
That's what a tribute band do, don't they?
Indeed, thats why I just wanted to put a little bit into perspective the statement on Oscar Rosende plays same level as MK92, or MK whatever year. (I´d also doubt he would say that about himself).
Generally, I still just don´t get it, being a musician myself, how such talented guys "waste" nearly all their musical life in trying to copy someone else rather than putting all their efforts and creativity to create own stuff.
Well as "MK" in a trib band myself I'll answer that.
It's extraordinarily difficult to make it as an original artist. Mark was lucky in that a well connected dj picked him up, but despite his extraordinary talent he could just as easily have faded into nothing.
I've known plenty of bands who I thought were amazing who never made it because they never had that lucky break. The music business is a jungle.
I was in originals band who worked with Portishead and had a minor hit in France - we may not have be n good enough or we may not have been lucky, either way it didn't work out.
So I'm left with two options, give it all up and be in a shitty pub band for a hobby or play really high quality music in theatres as a tribute band - the only real option for live unsigned musicians.
I chose the latter, I have a ball, the audience enjoy it and I make some money.
It's nothing to do with artistic integrity and everything to do with economics of music these days. Personally, I think my own guitar playing is shit hot, but I can't make money with that. So I play like someone else to make money 😉
Ok, got it. Still I´d find the first option you mention more interesting in musical terms, there are some pretty good guys out there playing in shitty pubs their own stuff.
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I'm with junkiedoll on this.
I don't get it why so many tribute bands try to imitate and copy MK's songs, body language, facial expressions, singing modulations etc. etc. It is always more or less a rather cheap caricature of the originial.
It is with pitty that I think: why don't they try to be themselves, play and sing and express their own individuality?
MK's term "poor souls" is very adequate in my mind.
That said I admit to imitate MK as well... under the shower or after a beer too much.
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I also think that most of the time, "shitty pub bands" are far more interesting to listen to than tribute bands
If I want to listen to my fav bands I don't listen to tribute, I listen to bootlegs recordings
That said, I admire musicians who managed to play perfectly like other artists. I don't have this skill. I'm sure it's a lot of work. But it doesn't "thrill" me
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Oscar Rosende, their singer and guitarist, plays the guitar as good as the Mk from 1992 and he's very professional about his singing, taking English lessons to improve his pronunciation to perfection!
He is good, thumbs up for that, but let´s keep a sense of proportion. MK92 consider some people arguably among the world best guitarists. Also we should not forget that MK invented such a unique style that in the end only he can produce to perfection (until today, because thats not so much about speed, but about his fingers, soul, tone...). Also phrasing is of course a huge part and one major strength of MK playing, which is no issue for someone covering because they almost exclusively use all phrases already played/invented by MK.
That's what a tribute band do, don't they?
Indeed, thats why I just wanted to put a little bit into perspective the statement on Oscar Rosende plays same level as MK92, or MK whatever year. (I´d also doubt he would say that about himself).
Generally, I still just don´t get it, being a musician myself, how such talented guys "waste" nearly all their musical life in trying to copy someone else rather than putting all their efforts and creativity to create own stuff.
Well as "MK" in a trib band myself I'll answer that.
It's extraordinarily difficult to make it as an original artist. Mark was lucky in that a well connected dj picked him up, but despite his extraordinary talent he could just as easily have faded into nothing.
I've known plenty of bands who I thought were amazing who never made it because they never had that lucky break. The music business is a jungle.
I was in originals band who worked with Portishead and had a minor hit in France - we may not have be n good enough or we may not have been lucky, either way it didn't work out.
So I'm left with two options, give it all up and be in a shitty pub band for a hobby or play really high quality music in theatres as a tribute band - the only real option for live unsigned musicians.
I chose the latter, I have a ball, the audience enjoy it and I make some money.
It's nothing to do with artistic integrity and everything to do with economics of music these days. Personally, I think my own guitar playing is shit hot, but I can't make money with that. So I play like someone else to make money 😉
Ok, got it. Still I´d find the first option you mention more interesting in musical terms, there are some pretty good guys out there playing in shitty pubs their own stuff.
You can do both.
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I'm with junkiedoll on this.
I don't get it why so many tribute bands try to imitate and copy MK's songs, body language, facial expressions, singing modulations etc. etc. It is always more or less a rather cheap caricature of the originial.
It it with pitty that I think: why don't they try to be themselves, play and sing and express their own individuality?
MK's term "poor souls" is very adequate in my mind.
That said I admit to imitate MK as well... under the shower or after a beer too much.
Well if you're in a tribute band you do have imitate and copy songs! Facial expressions is maybe taking it too far I agree.
I think non-musicians or hobbyists get a bit confused sometimes about what music is. Sure it's great to express yourself and be original, but unless you are very lucky you can't support yourself doing that. It's a bit of a fantasy really, like winning the lottery.
Most of the time musicians, including some of the best in the world, are playing other people's music for a living. Often they don't even like that music. It's a job.
If you can do that job, but also pick the songs you want to play, then it's a good job.
That's what a tribute band is. Professional entertainers doing a job for which there is demand. I don't want to be MK - for starters I'm far prettier than him ;-) - and I'm not play acting. I'm a musician doing a job.
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Pretty good but nothing spectacular sincerely
Better than the versions Mark plays lately. Here's an example:
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Pretty good but nothing spectacular sincerely
Better than the versions Mark plays lately. Here's an example:
;)
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i.e. none. He doesn't play it any more. :)
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A good tribute band does this things. There is a genesis tribute band that wear the same customs and they paint their faces like Genesis used to do. That's paying attention to details in what you do.
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A good tribute band does this things. There is a genesis tribute band that wear the same customs and they paint their faces like Genesis used to do. That's paying attention to details in what you do.
if you're talking about "the musical box" I remember reading they even reproduce some wrong notes played by Genesis at particular shows !
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Yes! Not only that but also the customs they wear are the originals that Genesis used live, they let them used that customs.
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Guy Fletcher defends the spectacle they play as an experience, and blame those who critizise them through yt vídeos. This is the same, they are offering an experience, and you really enjoy the experience. They have evolved to get the sound, which is near to the original, and when is finished you go out with a smile in your face and soul.
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One thing is for sure, - if he aims to imitate Mark's manner, he must learn to control his body. :)
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They are currently playing in Germany.
Óscar is writing a diary, this is today entry: https://oscarrosende.wordpress.com/2016/04/16/dresden-14-abril-alter-schlachthof/
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They're pretty good - one of the better ones. But that's a silly price.
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IT's a great band, with a lot of good musicians, and a very very good guitarrist, Oscar.
I can't say many more because Oscar is a good friend of mine, and a amazing person.
Maybe 50 is expensive, right. But this is not a band decision and, as I think, they do not deserve we underestimate his talent for that ;)
Anyway, It is unavoidable to compare band quality & price. Maybe they might take this in account.
And... I've seen some performance pictures&videos and it seems they've crowded all the concert halls where they played...
:wave