A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Eddie Fox on November 29, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
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Hello guys, long time no see you!
I posted this on Guy's forum a few days ago:
"I've been very busy lately but took the time last weekend to catch up with the tour by reading your diary and watching some performances on youtube. All I have to say is it is the best band I have ever come across in my life. Back then it was mostly about Mark's songs and his guitar playing but now it's like an act, every little piece falls into place so naturally and beautifully. Everything looks so effortless, relaxed and gorgeous. As I stated some posts ago I don't really care about my country not being part of the touring area or the lack of official releases apart from the CDs anymore, I'm over it, but it is indeed a shame that such glorious performances apparently will never be properly recorded and videoed. That's something that the next generations should be able to taste. Keep up the good work - forever, if that's possible."
His answer to my surprise was:
"Don't be so sure"
I didn't see that coming! A few posts below someone wrote this:
"Hello Doc. I was just watching again that beautiful short film by Henrik Hansen about Tracker and thinking about the new documentary he will work on, with some footage from Copenhaguen, Barcelona and some of the US dates... I really hope he will expand the images from MK in his beach house when you can see him writting songs and having a walk with his dogs, which are very beautiful scenes, and also some more of Mark and you in the studio, probably he left out many scenes for that short film that can be great in the new one, together with the live scenes. Really looking forward to it."
I went on Youtube and looked for footage from Copenhagen and Barcelona, and guess what... There were cameras on stage!
Connecting the dots, perhaps the so-called Hansen documentary is actually a live DVD and those pieces we saw a few months ago are the extras!
Does it make sense to you too or should I call my shrink?
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It has been already discussed here.
Yes there were cameras but up to now they are known to be used for a documentary. And we are not assured that the whole show was shot.
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It has been already discussed here.
Yes there were cameras but up to now they are known to be used for a documentary. And we are not assured that the whole show was shot.
I can speak for Copenhagen. The whole show wasn't shot. They filmed sequences from one angle during a couple of minutes. Then stopped and moved around, repeated and so on.
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It has been already discussed here.
Yes there were cameras but up to now they are known to be used for a documentary. And we are not assured that the whole show was shot.
I can speak for Copenhagen. The whole show wasn't shot. They filmed sequences from one angle during a couple of minutes. Then stopped and moved around, repeated and so on.
If I'm not mistaken I saw a fixed camera in front of the stage too as well as some go pros spread over. I also got this from Paul Crockford on Facebook afetr asking him about a possible official DVD release:
Crockford Management
Crockford Management Keep an eye on the website...there may be something in the next 12 months...
It was on 14 July.
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It has been already discussed here.
Yes there were cameras but up to now they are known to be used for a documentary. And we are not assured that the whole show was shot.
I can speak for Copenhagen. The whole show wasn't shot. They filmed sequences from one angle during a couple of minutes. Then stopped and moved around, repeated and so on.
If I'm not mistaken I saw a fixed camera in front of the stage too as well as some go pros spread over. I also got this from Paul Crockford on Facebook afetr asking him about a possible official DVD release:
Crockford Management
Crockford Management Keep an eye on the website...there may be something in the next 12 months...
It was on 14 July.
The fixed cameras were there for the monitors on the sides. It was Tivoli's own production crew.
I'm not saying you're wrong but nowadays I'm rather pessimistic about this thing. Still there seems to be at least some hope for something.
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Why would they want to release a DVD with performances on it that are vastly inferior to those already available on Alchemy, On the Night, A Night In London and Real Live Road Running? It wouldn't be quite so bad if the comparison wasn't there for all to see. A live DVD from the latest tour will never be released now IMHO and frankly I'm glad; performances of Mark in his prime are the ones that deserve to be archived for eternity.
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Why would they want to release a DVD with performances on it that are vastly inferior to those already available on Alchemy, On the Night, A Night In London and Real Live Road Running? It wouldn't be quite so bad if the comparison wasn't there for all to see. A live DVD from the latest tour will never be released now IMHO and frankly I'm glad; performances of Mark in his prime are the ones that deserve to be archived for eternity.
The Manchester concert that I attended was excellent and, luckily, there is a very good DVD available to download on the Tracker, thanks to Tunnel85. This concert would have made a great official DVD! :)
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Why would they want to release a DVD with performances on it that are vastly inferior to those already available on Alchemy, On the Night, A Night In London and Real Live Road Running? It wouldn't be quite so bad if the comparison wasn't there for all to see. A live DVD from the latest tour will never be released now IMHO and frankly I'm glad; performances of Mark in his prime are the ones that deserve to be archived for eternity.
I don't see Mark as a guitar hero anymore, I'd rather see the big picture now. The current band is stunning, the new songs are beautiful - and Mark sings now better than ever before. It's kind of ironic when you come to realise that when Mark was in a band it was all about him and his guitar and now that he's a solo artist he makes so much room for... the band.
Having said that, I really would like this to be real since Mark doesn't come to my country. I know we've been let down before but yeah, I'm still in the hopes it will happen at some point...
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Why would they want to release a DVD with performances on it that are vastly inferior to those already available on Alchemy, On the Night, A Night In London and Real Live Road Running? It wouldn't be quite so bad if the comparison wasn't there for all to see. A live DVD from the latest tour will never be released now IMHO and frankly I'm glad; performances of Mark in his prime are the ones that deserve to be archived for eternity.
The Manchester concert that I attended was excellent and, luckily, there is a very good DVD available to download on the Tracker, thanks to Tunnel85. This concert would have made a great official DVD! :)
You're right - the Manchester concert was one of the best of the tour and the DVD from Tunnel85 is a great way for the fans to have a chance to watch a live DVD from the recent tour in excellent quality. The point is though, it is for the fans, and not archived for eternity or released to the general public. Only true fans like ourselves will seek it out and we are already aware of any comparisons between performances of then and now. :)
In response to the original question: personally I think that Hansen's recordings will be edited and put into a DVD for the next album's box set but if any live footage is included at all it will be a clip. Personally I think it will be focussed more to a story of "life on the road touring" and behind-the-scenes thing. Probably way off the mark but just a theory. :think
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Why would they want to release a DVD with performances on it that are vastly inferior to those already available on Alchemy, On the Night, A Night In London and Real Live Road Running? It wouldn't be quite so bad if the comparison wasn't there for all to see. A live DVD from the latest tour will never be released now IMHO and frankly I'm glad; performances of Mark in his prime are the ones that deserve to be archived for eternity.
Harsh as usual :)
This may be true of Sultans (Alchemy version is stunning) and Telegraph (although even if Alchemy version is great, a softer version with the pensa sound is desirable - I have enjoyed 2010-2015 versions even in laid-back mode).
For everything else though, I disagree. Speedway, RAJ, YLT and going home were great in 2015. And most importantly let's not forget the new songs not on the above mentioned DVDs, especially HFB and KOG, and even Postcards, which were great in 2015. I will not mention Marbletown not to upset you :p
I really would have liked a Paris 2010 DVD, with Border Reiver (best opener ever), Coyote, and a electrifying TR end solo !
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Harsh as usual :)
This may be true of Sultans (Alchemy version is stunning) and Telegraph (although even if Alchemy version is great, a softer version with the pensa sound is desirable - I have enjoyed 2010-2015 versions even in laid-back mode).
For everything else though, I disagree. Speedway, RAJ, YLT and going home were great in 2015. And most importantly let's not forget the new songs not on the above mentioned DVDs, especially HFB and KOG, and even Postcards, which were great in 2015. I will not mention Marbletown not to upset you :p
I really would have liked a Paris 2010 DVD, with Border Reiver (best opener ever), Coyote, and a electrifying TR end solo !
Okay, okay, some really good point there. I'll give you that!
HFB reached it's peak a few tours back, 2011/2012 IMO. There are a few good versions, though they are random these days. Still a possibility since we don't have it on DVD though.
KOG was a highlight this tour and this would be welcomed.
Both R&J and YLT sounded dull and rather lifeless this tour, especially due to his vocal. Listen to R&J from 1996 and it's much more powerful.
Postcards is pretty standard but the best played ones I think were on the 2007 showcases.
Speedway was great from the Toronto concert and some others too but it was also great in 2006 too and available on the Real Live Roadrunning DVD.
OES is another one that was so much better played on the On the Night DVD than any version from 2015 I've heard.
P.S. Thanks for not mentioning Marbletown. ;)
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Why would they want to release a DVD with performances on it that are vastly inferior to those already available on Alchemy, On the Night, A Night In London and Real Live Road Running? It wouldn't be quite so bad if the comparison wasn't there for all to see. A live DVD from the latest tour will never be released now IMHO and frankly I'm glad; performances of Mark in his prime are the ones that deserve to be archived for eternity.
O.K. Mark's times in his prime are over. Maybe. When would you say that point arrived?
But this Band is the best he has ever had.
Ian,Glenn,Richard,Jim, Guy - all Top musicians. But wait - no, maybe the 96ers were a bit better because the Mcs were missing ;D
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I think Ed is right.
IT is time for a DVD.
We only have London 1996 as an incomplete DVD.
And the Live Versions on that one were not so good as the ones in the "real" concerts.
The one with Emmylou is nice to have but no proper MK Live DVD.
That's nearly 10 years ago.
Now with this BAND it is a shame to have nothing to watch at home.
How long he will wait ? Playing and setlist will not be better in the future...
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Madrid 2001. Really. Have you all forgotten how better was then his guitar playing?
SOS was still seriously swinging!
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Madrid 2001. Really. Have you all forgotten how better was then his guitar playing?
SOS was still seriously swinging!
:thumbsup
We have the audience video but I would love to see a properly mixed professional video with close-ups from that show. Great tour with a very good set too.
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Madrid 2001. Really. Have you all forgotten how better was then his guitar playing?
SOS was still seriously swinging!
Yes, but I listened to Speedway the other day. The 2001 versions are extraordinary lame.
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Madrid 2001. Really. Have you all forgotten how better was then his guitar playing?
SOS was still seriously swinging!
Yes, but I listened to Speedway the other day. The 2001 versions are extraordinary lame.
I would say that they are different. They build up to a crescendo more than the current versions with various band members changing instruments, including Mark. In the end I think it is even more powerful. Then there are the first few performances in S America which have extended solos.
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Madrid 2001. Really. Have you all forgotten how better was then his guitar playing?
SOS was still seriously swinging!
Yes, but I listened to Speedway the other day. The 2001 versions are extraordinary lame.
I would say that they are different. They build up to a crescendo more than the current versions with various band members changing instruments, including Mark. In the end I think it is even more powerful. Then there are the first few performances in S America which have extended solos.
2001 tour...
The good:
- Great new songs from a great new album
- Unique gems like Pyroman and Junkie doll, plus the nice intro on WII, sadly never to be listening too again
- Powerful guitar playing
- Fantastic TR with great piano arrangements, would have love to have Madrid 2001 released, maybe even better than 1996 or 2005
- Amazing original new intro on MFN
The bad:
- Speedway takes to much time to build up, much more powerful in 2005-2015
- BIA is too slow
- Calling Elvis is so-so compared to 96
- Removing the keyboards on Sultan is a bad idea for me (yes I know many will disagree)
The ugly:
- Synth can be too much and sound cheap. I do not like it all all on WII especially, I prefer the more sober yet more powerful versions of 2005
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In terms of guitar playing I think Mark was Mark til the STP tour. He was still in top form during the SL tour but not quite the same. After that it went downhill, he lost it. He's still unique and stuff but way behind the fabulous guitar player he used to be. Mark was a guitarist that would impress anyone and everyone, even metal or classical guitar fans, but it's gone now.
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Still, I'd love to have a live DVD of this encarnation. As was said, the current band is the best he's put together.
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In terms of guitar playing I think Mark was Mark til the STP tour. He was still in top form during the SL tour but not quite the same. After that it went downhill, he lost it. He's still unique and stuff but way behind the fabulous guitar player he used to be. Mark was a guitarist that would impress anyone and everyone, even metal or classical guitar fans, but it's gone now.
I do not really agree. His unique tone and feeling still impresses any guitar player that can be taken seriously. The Alchemy speed is not needed for this, though it was an additional component to impress players. For me personally it nowadays sounds much more elegant, with the guitar playing much more embedded in the song in a very smooth and subtile way so that the overall outcome of a song - which is finally mostly important - is usually pure beauty.
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In terms of guitar playing I think Mark was Mark til the STP tour. He was still in top form during the SL tour but not quite the same. After that it went downhill, he lost it. He's still unique and stuff but way behind the fabulous guitar player he used to be. Mark was a guitarist that would impress anyone and everyone, even metal or classical guitar fans, but it's gone now.
I believe that what we mean with guitar playing is essentially down to Sultans and Telegraph, the two guitar-intensive songs which have lost in speed. Altough TR was still great in 2005 and in 2010 for the end solo, and even in 2013 and 2015 for some performances.
WII used to suffer a bit from slowness in 2008-2013.
For the rest, Speedway is guitar-intensive and is very well played nowadays. KOG has a great solo, HFB too. So I would'nt be so radical...
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In terms of guitar playing I think Mark was Mark til the STP tour. He was still in top form during the SL tour but not quite the same. After that it went downhill, he lost it. He's still unique and stuff but way behind the fabulous guitar player he used to be. Mark was a guitarist that would impress anyone and everyone, even metal or classical guitar fans, but it's gone now.
I do not really agree. His unique tone and feeling still impresses any guitar player that can be taken seriously. The Alchemy speed is not needed for this, though it was an additional component to impress players. For me personally it nowadays sounds much more elegant, with the guitar playing much more embedded in the song in a very smooth and subtile way so that the overall outcome of a song - which is finally mostly important - is usually pure beauty.
Well, that's what I said, back then he would impress anyone and everyone, now he doesn't. He's still unique but he's no longer able to deliver what he did back then. And these days he's more into serving the song instead of making it a vehicle for his guitar playing.
If it's better, worse, more elegant, less entertaining and so on it is up to the listener. I particularly prefer something in the middle, a version that can both let the song breath and also play more intensively, with the fluidity and passion he used to display.
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
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In terms of guitar playing I think Mark was Mark til the STP tour. He was still in top form during the SL tour but not quite the same. After that it went downhill, he lost it. He's still unique and stuff but way behind the fabulous guitar player he used to be. Mark was a guitarist that would impress anyone and everyone, even metal or classical guitar fans, but it's gone now.
I do not really agree. His unique tone and feeling still impresses any guitar player that can be taken seriously. The Alchemy speed is not needed for this, though it was an additional component to impress players. For me personally it nowadays sounds much more elegant, with the guitar playing much more embedded in the song in a very smooth and subtile way so that the overall outcome of a song - which is finally mostly important - is usually pure beauty.
Well, that's what I said, back then he would impress anyone and everyone, now he doesn't. He's still unique but he's no longer able to deliver what he did back then. And these days he's more into serving the song instead of making it a vehicle for his guitar playing.
If it's better, worse, more elegant, less entertaining and so on it is up to the listener. I particularly prefer something in the middle, a version that can both let the song breath and also play more intensively, with the fluidity and passion he used to display.
TR is a good example of that: in '92 the end solo was out-of-this-world, but the rest of song was lame, no intro, no passion, horrible pedal steel, and even the solo feel like showing off guitar skills.
Today the song is touching but too much on the laid-back side (karaoke mode...)
In 96,01 and 05 was in between: still a lot of guitar, energy, and a great solo that was slower for the better - less rushed. That was the right trade-off...
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
I think so too! That's why I'm hoping for a DVD, I like this encarnation just as much as all the other ones. I can't let that cloud my judgement though. When you listen to old live stuff it's pretty obvious that Mark's playing was much more fluid, instinctive and clever. He always found a way out, his licks were much better connected and his fingers went to places that are not on his guitar fret anymore. Again, it's not worse, it's just different. Some people prefer the old Mark, some the current Mark. I like all Marks.
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
I think so too! That's why I'm hoping for a DVD, I like this encarnation just as much as all the other ones. I can't let that cloud my judgement though. When you listen to old live stuff it's pretty obvious that Mark's playing was much more fluid, instinctive and clever. He always found a way out, his licks were much better connected and his fingers went to places that are not on his guitar fret anymore. Again, it's not worse, it's just different. Some people prefer the old Mark, some the current Mark. I like all Marks.
I agree with just about everything you've said ed_raposo. You pretty much nailed it. I also feel that his playing used to be much more fluid, instinctive and clever (if I may quote you)! I think that may come from lack of practice? He also has lost some accuracy and I'm finding myself at times listening and hoping he'll not hit notes too much or too little...or not at all! :lol
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
If you go that way, then he could do even better : still write new songs and make them record and perform by someone else which has the ability to do it properly...
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
If you go that way, then he could do even better : still write new songs and make them record and perform by someone else which has the ability to do it properly...
Only Mark can perform his songs the way I like them, no-one else will do for me!
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
If you go that way, then he could do even better : still write new songs and make them record and perform by someone else which has the ability to do it properly...
Who do you have in mind who can do it "properly"? ;)
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
If you go that way, then he could do even better : still write new songs and make them record and perform by someone else which has the ability to do it properly...
Who do you have in mind who can do it "properly"? ;)
I have absolutely nobody known in mind.
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
If you go that way, then he could do even better : still write new songs and make them record and perform by someone else which has the ability to do it properly...
Pretty absurd. Amazing how one could think that anybody else than MK could perform MK songs better then MK himself. As if any painter could have painted a picture of van Gogh just given some kind of manual or instructions by the master, nonsense.
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
I think so too! That's why I'm hoping for a DVD, I like this encarnation just as much as all the other ones. I can't let that cloud my judgement though. When you listen to old live stuff it's pretty obvious that Mark's playing was much more fluid, instinctive and clever. He always found a way out, his licks were much better connected and his fingers went to places that are not on his guitar fret anymore. Again, it's not worse, it's just different. Some people prefer the old Mark, some the current Mark. I like all Marks.
I agree with just about everything you've said ed_raposo. You pretty much nailed it. I also feel that his playing used to be much more fluid, instinctive and clever (if I may quote you)! I think that may come from lack of practice? He also has lost some accuracy and I'm finding myself at times listening and hoping he'll not hit notes too much or too little...or not at all! :lol
I think it's a combination of factors: lack of practice, ageing, lack of passion... I don't know, it just looks like he doesn't think the guitar is that important anymore and plays solos just because he has to. SOS and BIA and the best examples in my opinion.
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
If you go that way, then he could do even better : still write new songs and make them record and perform by someone else which has the ability to do it properly...
Pretty absurd. Amazing how one could think that anybody else than MK could perform MK songs better then MK himself. As if any painter could have painted a picture of van Gogh just given some kind of manual or instructions by the master, nonsense.
1) Van Gogh did not live long enough to reach its 60's
2) Mark Knopfler's playing ability are going lower and that is a fact.
3) Absurd is to think that it can't be done better ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q2PATVyI
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I think that Mark's guitar playing suits the songs he writes these days perfectly. :)
If you go that way, then he could do even better : still write new songs and make them record and perform by someone else which has the ability to do it properly...
Pretty absurd. Amazing how one could think that anybody else than MK could perform MK songs better then MK himself. As if any painter could have painted a picture of van Gogh just given some kind of manual or instructions by the master, nonsense.
1) Van Gogh did not live long enough to reach its 60's
2) Mark Knopfler's playing ability are going lower and that is a fact.
3) Absurd is to think that it can't be done better ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q2PATVyI
You should not distort my words. I did not say that "it can´t be done better", I said that anybody else could not do MK songs better than MK himself. If you think that someone else performs MK songs better than MK himself, thats ok, its your view. For me its absurd, amazingly absurd (bye the way, your unrelated video example which I could assume that you want to show an example of somebody else doing an original song better than the original performer for me just confirms my view rather than to disprove it)
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I said that anybody else could not do MK songs better than MK himself.
I believe this is just a matter of centuries before someone prove you wrong.
(and I admit I am an absurd person)
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I said that anybody else could not do MK songs better than MK himself.
I believe this is just a matter of centuries before someone prove you wrong.
(and I admit I am an absurd person)
lol, ok, I´ve no problem with absurd persons because everybody of us is absurd from a certain point of view; Anyhow, for me the proof is excluded, its like a physical law, as there is nothing that can be faster than speed of light, nobody else can copy and incorporate MKs brain into his own...
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I said that anybody else could not do MK songs better than MK himself.
I believe this is just a matter of centuries before someone prove you wrong.
(and I admit I am an absurd person)
lol, ok, I´ve no problem with absurd persons because everybody of us is absurd from a certain point of view; Anyhow, for me the proof is excluded, its like a physical law, as there is nothing that can be faster than speed of light, nobody else can copy and incorporate MKs brain into his own...
Right there is nothing that can be faster than speed of light...until now.
Look back at scientist that said "there is nothing smaller that this or faster than that" and one day one of them do an absurd statement. Absurd until someone else prove him right.
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I said that anybody else could not do MK songs better than MK himself.
I believe this is just a matter of centuries before someone prove you wrong.
(and I admit I am an absurd person)
lol, ok, I´ve no problem with absurd persons because everybody of us is absurd from a certain point of view; Anyhow, for me the proof is excluded, its like a physical law, as there is nothing that can be faster than speed of light, nobody else can copy and incorporate MKs brain into his own...
Right there is nothing that can be faster than speed of light...until now.
Look back at scientist that said "there is nothing smaller that this or faster than that" and one day one of them do an absurd statement. Absurd until someone else prove him right.
There will never ever be another guitarist like MK. And I hold that opinion due to the fact that the times are totally different. I could write a whole essay about this but the key points are:
- Nothing to strive for, much is given to most people.
- TV and radio are jurassic medias. Heard a song today? Shazam it and listen to it in a matter of seconds. Heard a song in the 50's or 60's? Wait a whole day by the radio just to hear it being played - the next day.
- Patience and persistence, now and then? Anybody heard Keith Richards' story about how he as a kid so badly wanted to be a guitarist? And his grandpa had a guitar hanging too high on the wall, but it was only when he was able to reach it that he could start to play it.
- Kids rarely grow up listening to blues, jazz or country. And if they do they are considered as outcasts among their peers.
- You can't ignore the fact that the MK style of playing is heavily influenced by the mentioned genres. Take away these influences, what other kind of guitarists do you see?
- Kids that pick up the guitar are more likely to listen to "classic rock"; Red Hot Chili peppers, U2, Nirvana, Metallica and on and on. Not the classic rock that emerged from the 50s-70s that benchmarked that whole category.
- Also, kids (well most of them) these days grow up wanting to be as famous, not as good, as an idol. I think I read in some interviews that MK considers fame as the inevitable thing that follows when you exceed in something. Kids wanna skip ahead to be famous right away, but don't have the patience to be good at something.
- Lastly, the increase of electronic music will have to end before a nostalgic period kicks in and kids discover that instruments are actual things made of wood and metal.
And should there be another guitarist as good as MK, chances are that the music being performed isn't something that'll fit our ears. So the comparison will be lost either way.
So my opinion is clear. NO, there will never ever be another MK.
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IMHO John Mayer is a guitar genius but he's the only one that has shown up over the last 20 years or so - and actually made it to the charts. He's heavily influenced by blues and proper classic rock. He's said very sweet things about Mark too and has played MFN in his gigs a couple of times, mostly with Keith Urban, another huge fan of Mark's. There's still hope lol
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I said that anybody else could not do MK songs better than MK himself.
I believe this is just a matter of centuries before someone prove you wrong.
(and I admit I am an absurd person)
lol, ok, I´ve no problem with absurd persons because everybody of us is absurd from a certain point of view; Anyhow, for me the proof is excluded, its like a physical law, as there is nothing that can be faster than speed of light, nobody else can copy and incorporate MKs brain into his own...
Right there is nothing that can be faster than speed of light...until now.
Look back at scientist that said "there is nothing smaller that this or faster than that" and one day one of them do an absurd statement. Absurd until someone else prove him right.
There will never ever be another guitarist like MK. And I hold that opinion due to the fact that the times are totally different. I could write a whole essay about this but the key points are:
- Nothing to strive for, much is given to most people.
- TV and radio are jurassic medias. Heard a song today? Shazam it and listen to it in a matter of seconds. Heard a song in the 50's or 60's? Wait a whole day by the radio just to hear it being played - the next day.
- Patience and persistence, now and then? Anybody heard Keith Richards' story about how he as a kid so badly wanted to be a guitarist? And his grandpa had a guitar hanging too high on the wall, but it was only when he was able to reach it that he could start to play it.
- Kids rarely grow up listening to blues, jazz or country. And if they do they are considered as outcasts among their peers.
- You can't ignore the fact that the MK style of playing is heavily influenced by the mentioned genres. Take away these influences, what other kind of guitarists do you see?
- Kids that pick up the guitar are more likely to listen to "classic rock"; Red Hot Chili peppers, U2, Nirvana, Metallica and on and on. Not the classic rock that emerged from the 50s-70s that benchmarked that whole category.
- Also, kids (well most of them) these days grow up wanting to be as famous, not as good, as an idol. I think I read in some interviews that MK considers fame as the inevitable thing that follows when you exceed in something. Kids wanna skip ahead to be famous right away, but don't have the patience to be good at something.
- Lastly, the increase of electronic music will have to end before a nostalgic period kicks in and kids discover that instruments are actual things made of wood and metal.
And should there be another guitarist as good as MK, chances are that the music being performed isn't something that'll fit our ears. So the comparison will be lost either way.
So my opinion is clear. NO, there will never ever be another MK.
Kids are numerous.
There are still new guitar jazz player, blues player, classical player, rock player, heavy metal player, fusion player, and so on. Kids, "as a whole", plays and listen to everything. And with internet they have now a far better musical knowledge than those of the pre internet age because they can access to everything. This is called "diversity".
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IMHO John Mayer is a guitar genius but he's the only one that has shown up over the last 20 years or so - and actually made it to the charts. He's heavily influenced by blues and proper classic rock. He's said very sweet things about Mark too and has played MFN in his gigs a couple of times, mostly with Keith Urban, another huge fan of Mark's. There's still hope lol
Well, Mayer is 38. Not quite the teenager. :)
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IMHO John Mayer is a guitar genius but he's the only one that has shown up over the last 20 years or so - and actually made it to the charts. He's heavily influenced by blues and proper classic rock. He's said very sweet things about Mark too and has played MFN in his gigs a couple of times, mostly with Keith Urban, another huge fan of Mark's. There's still hope lol
Well, Mayer is 38. Not quite the teenager. :)
I didn't say he was, I meant that if JM chose his influences well a these days' teen can do so too.
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It looks like they are taking seriously the Henrik Hansen DVD, but I wonder what they are going to do with the final product...
As it's a documentary mixing live takes with interviews etc, would it fit a proper release or would fit better as a bonus thing?
And, as it's attached to Tracker, would it fit as a bonus of what? A special edition of Tracker? It would be weird to have it in next cd bonus...
What do you think about this future release?
Do you think that there is a chance it makes company to the Madrid 2011, Shepherd Bush 2002 and BBC 2013 video recordings?
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It looks like they are taking seriously the Henrik Hansen DVD, but I wonder what they are going to do with the final product...
As it's a documentary mixing live takes with interviews etc, would it fit a proper release or would fit better as a bonus thing?
And, as it's attached to Tracker, would it fit as a bonus of what? A special edition of Tracker? It would be weird to have it in next cd bonus...
What do you think about this future release?
Do you think that there is a chance it makes company to the Madrid 2011, Shepherd Bush 2002 and BBC 2013 video recordings?
All good questions.
I'm thinking, the Hansen invoice won't come cheap. Making audio recordings are now made on every concert. Filming at the BBC is probably paid for by the network. But bringing in a well renowned filmer like Hansen must be a total waste of money if it gets binned.
I say it's a coin toss between a standalone release and something that will be in the 2017 box set :)
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What do you think about this future release?
Do you think that there is a chance it makes company to the Madrid 2011, Shepherd Bush 2002 and BBC 2013 video recordings?
Apart from the Altamira soundtrack this will be the most interesting MK release to look forward to in 2016 (if PC is correct "next 12 month").
I really enjoyed the Hank Hansen short film and therefore have great expectations for the documentary.
I think that MK has great respect for HH and therefore let him have access to his private boathouse etc.
As much as I would love it I think there is no chance of a Madrid/Sherpherd's Bush/BBC 2013 inclusion in the Hansen release.
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And, as it's attached to Tracker, would it fit as a bonus of what? A special edition of Tracker? It would be weird to have it in next cd bonus...
it would not be the firts time that bonus material would come from a previous tour :
- Sultans of swing best of special edition in 98 came with bonus from 96 tour
- the ragpicker's dream special edition and Why Aye Man single came with bonus from 01 tour
- Get lucky box set came with live footage from the previous tour
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What do you think about this future release?
Do you think that there is a chance it makes company to the Madrid 2011, Shepherd Bush 2002 and BBC 2013 video recordings?
As much as I would love it I think there is no chance of a Madrid/Sherpherd's Bush/BBC 2013 inclusion in the Hansen release.
My fault... I didn't mean that those videos would be in the HH documentary, I meant that I hope it doesn't end in a drawer like the mentioned video recordings.
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Interesting speculations! ;D