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Title: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 24, 2016, 09:39:42 pm
I really enjoyed this tour. But no-one ever talks about it. I think Cannibals was the best opener MK has ever had, except perhaps Borded Reiver.

A lot of audience recordings are floating around. But no soundboard recording at all. I know someone recorded one of the shows in RAH illegally, but that one never got out to  the public. Do you guys know anything more? Did MK record anything themselves that we know of?

Nothing I would have liked more than to start my car on my way to work on a Monday morning, listening to a soundboard version of Cannibals..

:)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: holaknopfler on April 24, 2016, 10:21:51 pm
They've recorded every show in soundboard. There is a video of Cannibals on YouTube with the soundboard audio which was recorded from the IEM source I believe. I'm not going to post the link here, you can watch for yourself. It was a big hassle back in 2008 I remember with meet and greets being cancelled etc.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: jbaent on April 24, 2016, 10:43:18 pm
There are some iem recording that are not circulating, not only from London, but the ones who have them doesn't want to share them.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Pottel on April 25, 2016, 08:50:47 am
I really enjoyed this tour. But no-one ever talks about it. I think Cannibals was the best opener MK has ever had, except perhaps Borded Reiver.

A lot of audience recordings are floating around. But no soundboard recording at all. I know someone recorded one of the shows in RAH illegally, but that one never got out to  the public. Do you guys know anything more? Did MK record anything themselves that we know of?

Nothing I would have liked more than to start my car on my way to work on a Monday morning, listening to a soundboard version of Cannibals..

:)
my least favourite tour. even though the tour opener Show was good fun.
and i loved the Screen!
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 09:28:19 am
They've recorded every show in soundboard. There is a video of Cannibals on YouTube with the soundboard audio which was recorded from the IEM source I believe. I'm not going to post the link here, you can watch for yourself. It was a big hassle back in 2008 I remember with meet and greets being cancelled etc.

Woow i will check that out..

I remember the trouble because of this too.. I was a member on the mknews forum and the arguments there about it was not always very polite..
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: JF on April 25, 2016, 09:37:42 am
the tour with the biggest surprises in the setlist
I wish I could attend a gig from this tour but I didn't. one of my biggest regret in my DS/Mk fan history
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 10:26:40 am
the tour with the biggest surprises in the setlist
I wish I could attend a gig from this tour but I didn't. one of my biggest regret in my DS/Mk fan history

I was lucky enough to see two shows. Absolutely one of my favorite tours too.

I don't feel so good about listening to iem recordings since there was so bad response from the band about it. What do you guys think? I was thinking more about radio show with a song or two, or a TV report. I have a TV report from Bergen with clips from cannibals and why aye man.. Will share it if it's not out there already.

Tobben
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: herlock on April 25, 2016, 11:41:31 am
the tour with the biggest surprises in the setlist
I wish I could attend a gig from this tour but I didn't. one of my biggest regret in my DS/Mk fan history

I was lucky enough to see two shows. Absolutely one of my favorite tours too.

I don't feel so good about listening to iem recordings since there was so bad response from the band about it. What do you guys think? I was thinking more about radio show with a song or two, or a TV report. I have a TV report from Bergen with clips from cannibals and why aye man.. Will share it if it's not out there already.

Tobben
What do you mean about the band response ?
I could not attend but I have mix feelings about it.
On the one hand, the most innovative setlist ever, with the great HFB, the not-yet-boring Marbletown, PFP, the return of the full band going home ...
On the other hand, the songs from the new album were a bore (TLWNF and F&B), and mostly I feel a drop of energy from 2005 (WII, and above all the start of the infamous karaoke mode for TR !!).
All in all I prefered the combination of GL and P tours for nice versions of the songs (I am no fan of cannibals).
What do you think ?
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 12:03:03 pm
the tour with the biggest surprises in the setlist
I wish I could attend a gig from this tour but I didn't. one of my biggest regret in my DS/Mk fan history

I was lucky enough to see two shows. Absolutely one of my favorite tours too.

I don't feel so good about listening to iem recordings since there was so bad response from the band about it. What do you guys think? I was thinking more about radio show with a song or two, or a TV report. I have a TV report from Bergen with clips from cannibals and why aye man.. Will share it if it's not out there already.

Tobben
What do you mean about the band response ?
I could not attend but I have mix feelings about it.
On the one hand, the most innovative setlist ever, with the great HFB, the not-yet-boring Marbletown, PFP, the return of the full band going home ...
On the other hand, the songs from the new album were a bore (TLWNF and F&B), and mostly I feel a drop of energy from 2005 (WII, and above all the start of the infamous karaoke mode for TR !!).
All in all I prefered the combination of GL and P tours for nice versions of the songs (I am no fan of cannibals).
What do you think ?

I remember Guy actually replied on one of the topics on the mknews forum himself, saying they where saddened someone would illegally record their shows through the iem system. And that there would be consequences. If there where I don't know. Maybe that's why they started to sell live shows on the next tour, so they could have more control.

I understand the band. And I understand the guys who recorded the in ear monitors too. Having the possibility to listen to one of the shows I have attended in sbd is wonderful to me. I don't know how many times I have listen to the Stavanger 2013 recording I bought after the show.

Is there a chance they would make the 2008 recordings available on the bleecker street site? :)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: ds1984 on April 25, 2016, 12:06:15 pm
the tour with the biggest surprises in the setlist
I wish I could attend a gig from this tour but I didn't. one of my biggest regret in my DS/Mk fan history

I was lucky enough to see two shows. Absolutely one of my favorite tours too.

I don't feel so good about listening to iem recordings since there was so bad response from the band about it. What do you guys think? I was thinking more about radio show with a song or two, or a TV report. I have a TV report from Bergen with clips from cannibals and why aye man.. Will share it if it's not out there already.

Tobben

As a fan and without any official live stuff made available of course I would die to hear some stealth IEM recording from that tour.
The problem is if I remember well is that the "London guy" tried to make business with it and advertised as it on the MKNews forum.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: jbaent on April 25, 2016, 12:34:31 pm
the tour with the biggest surprises in the setlist
I wish I could attend a gig from this tour but I didn't. one of my biggest regret in my DS/Mk fan history

I was lucky enough to see two shows. Absolutely one of my favorite tours too.

I don't feel so good about listening to iem recordings since there was so bad response from the band about it. What do you guys think? I was thinking more about radio show with a song or two, or a TV report. I have a TV report from Bergen with clips from cannibals and why aye man.. Will share it if it's not out there already.

Tobben

As a fan and without any official live stuff made available of course I would die to hear some stealth IEM recording from that tour.
The problem is if I remember well is that the "London guy" tried to make business with it and advertised as it on the MKNews forum.

Thats wrong. That guy didn´t try to make any bussiness with it, he just talk about in the "official" forum of MKNEWS that is the totally wrong place to do it, it arrived to MK, management, Guy's ears and they reacted, and the guy, that was about to share that recordings, had to keep it for himself.

The other guys with IEM recordings of that tour, I don´t know why they don´t want to share them, maybe they are afraid about what happened with the London guy, or maybe they just want to keep that special thing for themselfs...

This is a Cannibals video with audio synched from one of those IEM recordings in "private hands"

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S2Z_382fZk
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 12:37:34 pm
Yes that's correct jbaent :)

Would love to have a complete recording though. Already listened to Cannibals about 15 times 😜😂
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: ds1984 on April 25, 2016, 12:43:58 pm
the tour with the biggest surprises in the setlist
I wish I could attend a gig from this tour but I didn't. one of my biggest regret in my DS/Mk fan history

I was lucky enough to see two shows. Absolutely one of my favorite tours too.

I don't feel so good about listening to iem recordings since there was so bad response from the band about it. What do you guys think? I was thinking more about radio show with a song or two, or a TV report. I have a TV report from Bergen with clips from cannibals and why aye man.. Will share it if it's not out there already.

Tobben

As a fan and without any official live stuff made available of course I would die to hear some stealth IEM recording from that tour.
The problem is if I remember well is that the "London guy" tried to make business with it and advertised as it on the MKNews forum.

Thats wrong. That guy didn´t try to make any bussiness with it, he just talk about in the "official" forum of MKNEWS that is the totally wrong place to do it, it arrived to MK, management, Guy's ears and they reacted, and the guy, that was about to share that recordings, had to keep it for himself.

The guy that stealth the London night talked about two shows, and from memory advertised that one would be available to DL (or at least part of one) but there was something he wanted for the other one.
I don't remember if any DL link had been posted and thus removed or if it had to be posted in the following days. All I remember is that I had not been able to grab it...

And of course MKNews was the last place to do it.
 
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: dmg on April 25, 2016, 12:53:19 pm
Never liked Cannibals;  poor relation of Walk of Life.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: superval99 on April 25, 2016, 01:11:03 pm
Thanks for that trip down memory lane - very enjoyable!   :)   Was the picture from Rotterdam or possibly second night Amsterdam and audio from another concert?     
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: jbaent on April 25, 2016, 01:20:25 pm
Thanks for that trip down memory lane - very enjoyable!   :)   Was the picture from Rotterdam or possibly second night Amsterdam and audio from another concert?   

Yes, audio is not from that concert.

The guy who posted the video has at least one IEM recording that was sent to him from other fan, and he said he can't share it. but asked for permission to do this video and he has allowed to it.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 01:29:24 pm
Wonder why they can't share all since they decided to share one..

At least share the highlights; marbletown and true love will never fade....   ;D ;D

Juuust kidding 😜😂😂
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: quizzaciously on April 25, 2016, 01:31:08 pm
I'd kill to get Daddy's Gone To Knoxville in soundboard, but sadly both 2008 or 2011 versions aren't available at all. It's a royal S-H-A-M-E.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 02:03:23 pm
I'd kill to get Daddy's Gone To Knoxville in soundboard, but sadly both 2008 or 2011 versions aren't available at all. It's a royal S-H-A-M-E.

That's one of the songs I would like to hear in sbd too.. but I would rather buy it!
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Vesper on April 25, 2016, 02:13:26 pm
Too bad these recordings don't float around.
I haven't got with but would love to have it.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: herlock on April 25, 2016, 02:19:02 pm
I'd kill to get Daddy's Gone To Knoxville in soundboard, but sadly both 2008 or 2011 versions aren't available at all. It's a royal S-H-A-M-E.
I'd rather kill for a good video version of TR from the golden years (96/01/05) than for poor DGTK) :)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: jbaent on April 25, 2016, 02:24:13 pm
I recall someone got to contact the London guy who stealth that RAH shows, I wonder if someone has his contact details to try to approach him again... just in case  ;)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Bad Bull on April 25, 2016, 02:48:14 pm
steal = stole = stolen

stealth = bomber

 ;)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 02:54:07 pm
I recall someone got to contact the London guy who stealth that RAH shows, I wonder if someone has his contact details to try to approach him again... just in case  ;)

That was me I wasn't sure if it was legal or not, it just didn't feel right. So I asked Guy, and it wasn't (hehe)... I took a step back and said I didn't want to be a part of it.. Remember getting some not so very nice emails in return from the London guy..

That's why I don't feel comfortable trading these recordings if someone has it. I didn't get so far to receive anything from the London guy, and glad I didn't. But still I want to listen to them so bad...

Does that make sense?
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 07:54:36 pm
steal = stole = stolen

stealth = bomber

 ;)

 :lol
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 25, 2016, 08:33:57 pm
The London guy was very naïve, I tried to warn him by PM that he was entering a world of pain but even I didn't anticipate the extreme reaction from PCM, threats of lawyers and stuff.

He argued that they would never know the source, how did anybody know where any soundboard recording came from etc. I told him the sources were pretty much always known but he wouldn't listen. If memory serves he wasn't trying to sell it but was planning on trading for other rare stuff.

He did release a couple of mp3s which I still have on a drive I think, TLWNF and Sultans if memory serves.

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Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 25, 2016, 08:48:19 pm
Found TLWNF, here it is for anyone who doesn't have it.

https://soundcloud.com/dustyvalentino/unknown

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Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 10:01:11 pm
I had a little look at the thread on the mknewsforum now to freshen up my memory. Was quite a reaction from PCM indeed. Where they afraid of the recordings being sold?

Where could the Cannibals clip be from? The sound is quite different from Cannibals and TLWNF.

What other iem recordings do you guys know of? I haven't heard of anything else than the London recording...

I wish they would release the KTGC tour on the bleecker street site as well, so I could buy the Oslo and Bergen shows ;)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Pottel on April 25, 2016, 10:03:53 pm
los angeles. somehow comes to mind...
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: dmg on April 25, 2016, 10:22:58 pm
Thanks Dusty. 

Interesting that Mark's IEM didn't seem to have Mark so loud in the mix as the LA 2001 concert did.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: ds1984 on April 25, 2016, 10:25:22 pm
If memory serves he wasn't trying to sell it but was planning on trading for other rare stuff.

He did release a couple of mp3s which I still have on a drive I think, TLWNF and Sultans if memory serves.

My bad, my memory was not accurate.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 25, 2016, 10:37:24 pm
Thanks Dusty. 

Interesting that Mark's IEM didn't seem to have Mark so loud in the mix as the LA 2001 concert did.
Might not be Mark's...

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Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 25, 2016, 10:42:44 pm
I had a little look at the thread on the mknewsforum now to freshen up my memory. Was quite a reaction from PCM indeed. Where they afraid of the recordings being sold?

Where could the Cannibals clip be from? The sound is quite different from Cannibals and TLWNF.

What other iem recordings do you guys know of? I haven't heard of anything else than the London recording...

I wish they would release the KTGC tour on the bleecker street site as well, so I could buy the Oslo and Bergen shows ;)
Could you post the link?

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Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 25, 2016, 11:03:43 pm
I had a little look at the thread on the mknewsforum now to freshen up my memory. Was quite a reaction from PCM indeed. Where they afraid of the recordings being sold?

Where could the Cannibals clip be from? The sound is quite different from Cannibals and TLWNF.

What other iem recordings do you guys know of? I haven't heard of anything else than the London recording...

I wish they would release the KTGC tour on the bleecker street site as well, so I could buy the Oslo and Bergen shows ;)
Could you post the link?

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Here you go:
http://mknewsforum.yuku.com/topic/1416/2008-soundboard-recording-SPOILER-RAH-last-night
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 25, 2016, 11:29:41 pm
Thanks, funny to look back. Interesting that people were calling for high quality unedited soundboards of all shows and now we have them!

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Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: Tobben on April 26, 2016, 11:27:07 am
Absolutely 😊

Lets just hope They will release the KTGC tour too :)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: superval99 on April 26, 2016, 11:55:05 am
Listening to the KTGC audience recording of the Charlotte concert at the moment.   I have to say that the sound quality is much better than the Bleecker recording of the Newcastle concert last year.   Very enjoyable concert too, performance-wise.    :)   
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: ds1984 on April 26, 2016, 11:59:36 am
Absolutely 😊

Lets just hope They will release the KTGC tour too :)

I hope so but would be a real surprise. I think there are more chances to see the 2005 Crowfly shows being made available again in better quality (flac or at least MP3 320) as they had been already published, or some 2001 recording for a 2020 Sailing to Philadelphia Anniversary Edition (let's dream!)
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: ds1984 on April 26, 2016, 12:13:07 pm
Listening to the KTGC audience recording of the Charlotte concert at the moment.   I have to say that the sound quality is much better than the Bleecker recording of the Newcastle concert last year.   Very enjoyable concert too, performance-wise.    :)

At least three recordings exist from that show. Which one do you listen?

- a 24 bit version - George Wang source
- "Still The Man" - Irish Rose source, CD break between SOS and  Song For Sonny Liston
- "Ovens Auditorium, Charlotte, NC" -  jadedphan source CD break between Song for Sony Liston and Marbletown
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: superval99 on April 26, 2016, 12:19:23 pm
Listening to the KTGC audience recording of the Charlotte concert at the moment.   I have to say that the sound quality is much better than the Bleecker recording of the Newcastle concert last year.   Very enjoyable concert too, performance-wise.    :)

At least three recordings exist from that show. Which one do you listen?

- a 24 bit version - George Wang source
- "Still The Man" - Irish Rose source, CD break between SOS and  Song For Sonny Liston
- "Ovens Auditorium, Charlotte, NC" -  jadedphan source CD break between Song for Sony Liston and Marbletown

Jadedphan version.
Title: Re: The KTGC Tour
Post by: ds1984 on April 26, 2016, 12:46:58 pm
Listening to the KTGC audience recording of the Charlotte concert at the moment.   I have to say that the sound quality is much better than the Bleecker recording of the Newcastle concert last year.   Very enjoyable concert too, performance-wise.    :)

At least three recordings exist from that show. Which one do you listen?

- a 24 bit version - George Wang source
- "Still The Man" - Irish Rose source, CD break between SOS and  Song For Sonny Liston
- "Ovens Auditorium, Charlotte, NC" -  jadedphan source CD break between Song for Sony Liston and Marbletown

Jadedphan version.

Thank you  :wave