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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: boriszhukov on July 22, 2016, 10:46:17 AM

Title: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: boriszhukov on July 22, 2016, 10:46:17 AM
Since Mark finally pulled out On Every Street and Your Latest Trick for the last tour here are songs I’d love Mark to pull out for future tours that would fit nicely to his current presentation and could replace some of the songs being overplayed. 

Eric Clapton has done the same with great success bringing in some of his material from the 70ies and I think it could be nice if MK tried to renew his live presentation just a bit giving the audience something else than just the newest stuff mixed with the obvious material.

Here goes...

Water of Love (96ish version)

Wild West End

Portobello Belle

Down the Waterline

Single Handed Sailor

Follow me Home

Once Upon a Time in the West

Tunnel of Love (maybe replacing Romeo or Telegraph Road)

Love over Gold

When it Comes to You

What it is (becoming a classic track which could replace Hillfarmers or Speedway)

Why Aye Man (becoming a classic track which could replace Hillfarmers or Speedway)

Won Two Crows

Gator Blood

Terminal of Tribute To

Basil


Hope Guy sees this :-)
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: quizzaciously on July 22, 2016, 11:02:09 AM
Keep your fingers crossed Boris ;)
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: straitsway75 on July 22, 2016, 11:02:58 AM
 :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: straitsway75 on July 22, 2016, 11:08:59 AM
.......I dream also another track that not often talking about, but for me is a masterpiece

RIDE ACROSS THE RIVER

...in these time of world's troubles is a right way to reply at hate and ignorance

 :wave

Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: Love Expresso on July 22, 2016, 11:09:13 AM
Mark and his "Musical Director" Guy are not interested the slightest in what "fans" and audience want. Sad but true. Read the lyrics of Silver Eagle and you get an idea how he sees the people that crowd the arenas.

As you ask and use the word "realistic": Choose a song with as minimal guitar presence as possible but with a lot of room for the folk brothers or the Sax player...

LE
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: Love Expresso on July 22, 2016, 11:14:33 AM
.......I dream also another track that not often talking about, but for me is a masterpiece

RIDE ACROSS THE RIVER

...in these time of world's troubles is a right way to reply at hate and ignorance

 :wave

Yes, great choice!

So Far From The Clyde would work perfectly well with the current band as well.

LE
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: superval99 on July 22, 2016, 11:24:28 AM
'Before Gas & TV' would sound great with the current band too!   :)
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: Love Expresso on July 22, 2016, 11:26:56 AM
Val, believe it or not, I had that song in mind first but didn't want to contradict my initial post about "guitar presence"...  :lol :lol

I would buy a ticket for another MK show to hear that song live.

LE
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: dmg on July 22, 2016, 12:37:15 PM
.......I dream also another track that not often talking about, but for me is a masterpiece

RIDE ACROSS THE RIVER

...in these time of world's troubles is a right way to reply at hate and ignorance

 :wave

Yes, great choice!

So Far From The Clyde would work perfectly well with the current band as well.

LE

Before the Tracker tour I suggested that for my dream opener.  Love RAtR.  SFFtC would be great too - really got into that more recently.

There are a lot from the OES album I would like to see make comebacks:

PoNO - one of my favourite songs of all time.
YaYF - another great song.  Slow paced and I think suited to the way Mark's playing these days.  Replacement for HFB which has past its best IMO.
WICTY - good country flavour and perfectly playable today.
How Long - very underrated song.
Private Investigations - been listening to that recently too.  Interestingly, his most successful UK single has never been performed live on a solo tour.  Maybe 'The Dullards' just can't nail the more powerful songs like ToL and PI...
BLT - like to see this great song back in the set again.  Kroc style!
JD - love the solos at the end and think Jim would do a great job on this.

Also I must say that he must bring back TR.  Without it, the set really doesn't cut it.
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: Love Expresso on July 22, 2016, 12:52:49 PM
Oh yes, Junkie Doll, great song, totally forgotten, some great 2001 versions!

Talking about revive old live songs, Darling Pretty was one of the best openers ever. Anyone agree?

The Scaffolder's Wife could be a good replacement for HFB, band would fit perfectly well, plus the playing out with that fat LP sound could be extended a little more... Dreaming...

LE


Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: quizzaciously on July 22, 2016, 07:40:47 PM
I mean I haven't even recovered from Tracker Tour choices yet (I mean NOT played Taormina, Eagle, Beryl, Terminal, etc).

And you ask us about hypothetical next tour, I just don't get it ;D

Mark composed a song which is the Sultans killer (Beryl) and played it on promo shows only, Mark composed Romeo & Juliet killer (Long Cool Girl) and never played it at all, Mark composed Philadelphia killer (Silver Eagle) and never played it, Mark took his great message in Terminal and played it on rehearsals only.

Occupation Blues was a surprise, but previous experience says that this song choice was a product of no-drummer and book-song agenda.

So as LE said realistic choice would be something with folk guys or with a sax. And please expect no more than couple of new songs ;D
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: dmg on July 22, 2016, 08:43:05 PM
I mean I haven't even recovered from Tracker Tour choices yet (I mean NOT played Taormina, Eagle, Beryl, Terminal, etc).

And you ask us about hypothetical next tour, I just don't get it ;D

Mark composed a song which is the Sultans killer (Beryl) and played it on promo shows only, Mark composed Romeo & Juliet killer (Long Cool Girl) and never played it at all, Mark composed Philadelphia killer (Silver Eagle) and never played it, Mark took his great message in Terminal and played it on rehearsals only.

Occupation Blues was a surprise, but previous experience says that this song choice was a product of no-drummer and book-song agenda.

So as LE said realistic choice would be something with folk guys or with a sax. And please expect no more than couple of new songs ;D

Words of experience there!  :)
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: border_reiver on July 23, 2016, 11:49:58 AM
Realistic suggestion for changes?

No changes at all.  ;)
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: cannibals on July 24, 2016, 08:47:50 PM
Is this realistic?
1. new song
2. What it is
3. Golden Heart
4. new song
5. new song
6. YLT
7. R&J
8. Sultans
9. new song
10. HFB
11. Terminal
12. OES
13. Speedway
14. TR
-- ------
15 Brothers
16 GH
 :think
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: quizzaciously on July 24, 2016, 09:28:52 PM
Is this realistic?
1. new song
2. What it is
3. Golden Heart
4. new song
5. new song
6. YLT
7. R&J
8. Sultans
9. new song
10. HFB
11. Terminal
12. OES
13. Speedway
14. TR
--------
15 Brothers
16 GH
 :think

Yes, if you would throw out 3 new songs, Golden Heart and put 'Done With Bonaparte' instead of Terminal.
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: boriszhukov on July 26, 2016, 01:59:52 PM
yes obviously there is little chance any of these ideas will be implemented. On the other hand it was really nice to see that he performed Occupation Blues last week. So we can hope for the best. Atleast they put in the two old DS songs on the last tour. For me the ingredients of a good setlist is  mix of new songs, clasisc and a few surprised (new arrangements or a ouple of songs not performed for a while).
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: Billy’s Tune on August 10, 2016, 07:23:42 PM
Well I had a scary dream the other night that on the next tour MK played Calling Elvis - but the twiddly solo after the second verse was drastically simplified and throughout the rest of the song he clumsily strummed aka broken bones style.
But ... The full guitar solo from the 1992 shows was there just this time played on sax whilst mark grinned away!!
Title: Re: Realistic suggestions for setlist changes for next tours
Post by: dmg on August 13, 2016, 05:26:46 PM
Well I had a scary dream the other night that on the next tour MK played Calling Elvis - but the twiddly solo after the second verse was drastically simplified and throughout the rest of the song he clumsily strummed aka broken bones style.
But ... The full guitar solo from the 1992 shows was there just this time played on sax whilst mark grinned away!!

Ouch!  That is scary!

Seriously though, BB is definitely the worst opener ever.  Border Reiver is certainly in-line with the stuff he's playing these days, not taxing on his part and more to the point an excellent up-beat number to start the show.  RAtR could be used too with the flutes and whistles and include some nice guitar on it should he have the inclination.