A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Love Expresso on October 13, 2016, 01:48:01 PM
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I think it's well deserved if you look at a life time of great art and poetry. I guess Mark will be pleased, too.
LE
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I rushed to post it there, too! What a legendary appreciation for a legendary man! The news itself is 'Enough said" situation.
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The question is, is Mark going to write another song, but this time titled "Dylan"?
Dylan is on another level
When he got his Nobel Medal
He will do even more
After all he gave
After all he gave
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Krusty is more or less dead in the grave as well, isn't he ? :think
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MK also gave a statement (not so disrespectful as the one from Tunnel85):
"Bob Dylan has been a great songwriter since he was a teenager and nothing has stopped him in continuing to write and bring his gifts to the world. There aren’t many honours which Bob hasn’t earned already. I’m delighted for him." MK
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Nice to hear from you again Tunnel. It's been too long. :wave
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And nice to hear him called Krusty again -- it's been awhile since I heard that. :D
And now I am feeling a bit nostalgic, thinking about the 2012 NA concerts with Krusty and Mark... My first ever MK concerts!!
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I think it's well deserved if you look at a life time of great art and poetry. I guess Mark will be pleased, too.
LE
fully agree.
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The question is, is Mark going to write another song, but this time titled "Dylan"?
Dylan is on another level
When he got his Nobel Medal
He will do even more
After all he gave
After all he gave
lol
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MK also gave a statement (not so disrespectful as the one from Tunnel85):
"Bob Dylan has been a great songwriter since he was a teenager and nothing has stopped him in continuing to write and bring his gifts to the world. There aren’t many honours which Bob hasn’t earned already. I’m delighted for him." MK
Very nice statement from MK!! And I think that Bob Dylan deserves this Nobel Prize!!! :wave :thumbsup
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I still have nightmares listening in my dreams his voice in 2011.
If you want to listen him, better choose the old days.
There should be a Nobel categorie for the music, or at least, the art.
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Meh, my money was on Thomas Pynchon for his contribution to the making of STP.
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Great choice for this years Peace prize:-
This track says it all IMHO:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2mabTnMHe8
I beleive that EVERY one of us need to contribute to denouncing the way we have been played by our "leaders" in some way....
Bob does it so well!
Masters of war
Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain
You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you sit back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
While the young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
That even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness?
Do you think that it could?
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
By the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
Singer/Songwriter/Nobel Laureate 2016: Bob Dylan
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No doubt that his Bobness is one of the greatest lyricists of all times.
But... Nobel prize of literature ?? Isn't overkill ? Is he akin to Dostoyevsky, Hemingway, Goethe, Victor Hugo ? Where are his books ? Is it relevant to mix things like this ? If it goes on we may one day give the prize to Justin Bieber...
Again, although I don't like the guy I recognize his genius as a songwriter. But Nobel prize of literature ? C'mon !
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No doubt that his Bobness is one of the greatest lyricists of all times.
But... Nobel prize of literature ?? Isn't overkill ? Is he akin to Dostoyevsky, Hemingway, Goethe, Victor Hugo ? Where are his books ? Is it relevant to mix things like this ? If it goes on we may one day give the prize to Justin Bieber...
Again, although I don't like the guy I recognize his genius as a songwriter. But Nobel prize of literature ? C'mon !
Last year Prize was given for a non-fiction book... and everybody seems to appreciate the choice.
The thing with Dylan is, he really changed the course of history of music, how dramatic it might sounds, he's like Hendrix for guitar players, but only Dylan for lyricists. Even if The Beatles looked at him and decided to rewrite all their music, isn't this is a real honour?
And also it's amazing that for doing so he take prizes one after another. He already for decades was ?1 in any best songwriters lists, now you can might as well just count other guys to the number one without him, because everybody know who's the boss in songwriting.
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I like Bob Dylan and i respect his poetry a lot.
But in my opinion, Leonard Cohen should get the Nobel prize.
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I like Bob Dylan and i respect his poetry a lot.
But in my opinion, Leonard Cohen should get the Nobel prize.
I don't think that it would set up the tradition for giving the Prize for songwriters, so sadly for Leonard, I don't think he would get one.
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I am really happy for Dylan despite the fact that my good friend has been a translator of Murakami's books over many years and I was once lucky enough to take part in translation editing of the novel 1Q84. :)
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I like Bob Dylan and i respect his poetry a lot.
But in my opinion, Leonard Cohen should get the Nobel prize.
I don't think that it would set up the tradition for giving the Prize for songwriters, so sadly for Leonard, I don't think he would get one.
funny to read Leonard's comment on the prize: giving the nobel prize to bob is like giving a prize to the mount everest for being the highest mountain"
think that sort of ends any discussion. lol
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Obama also won the peace Nobel prize... :hmm
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Obama also won the peace Nobel prize... :hmm
:clap
A rather sick joke. :disbelief
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Yes, it is a terrific honour for Dylan but, yes, there have been naysayers and gainsayers vocal in expressing their views. This carping seems to revolve around the notion that Dylan's works are not worthy of being considered literature. I would have thought literature had a pretty wide definition and Alfred Nobel seems to have held much the same point of view.
Over the years, the Nobel committee has given the literature award to some writers with whom I was not familiar and with whose works I am still unfamiliar. For once, this is someone whose works I not only know but know well. I suspect the same is true for many other people across the world. For this reason alone, this award should be welcomed.
Clearly, Dylan writes for the stage not the page (well, mainly, anyway) but should this count against him? I think not! Previous Nobel prizewinners in Literature have included Harold Pinter and the recently deceased Dario Fo, both of whom wrote principally for the stage.
Dylan's works have probably been heard and/or read more widely than almost any other Nobel prizewinner in recent times. Is this not be lauded?
As for Dylan's place being in popular culture, we should remember that Shakespeare, in his time, wrote his plays not just to be performed but also to be popular. Were he writing plays today, would this invalidate his being considered for this prize? Let alone winning it one year?
Mark's tribute to Mr Bob is much to be welcomed. Popular music in recent decades would have been very different but for Dylan. You may criticise his voice (many do), his performances (some great, some not, some uneven), even some of his albums but his body of work is enormous - and he's still on the road, year-in year-out.
These "Biobibliographical Notes", from the official Nobel website, give some idea of the reasoning behind the Academy's decision:
https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2016/bio-bibl.html
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Bob has declined the Nobel prize..
He will explain more on saturday press conference.
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Source?
LE
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Source of the "Biobibliographical Notes", do you mean?
As far as I'm aware, the Academy itself. How the Academy sourced the information, I do not know. Since the Academy does not reveal who is under consideration in advance of the decision, it cannot have been Dylan or his management team. And there is nothing in those "Notes" that is not publicly available information.
If you were so inclined, you could have compiled the list yourself. A trawl of the internet would get you most if not all of it. I imagine that there are many Dylan fans who might have generated an even longer list, especially of the foreign language books and the list of articles.
People have been suggesting Dylan for this prize for many years now. As I recall, it was an academic based at a college in Virginia, USA who started it but I'd have to check the person's name and the year. I'd guess that it has been something like 15 years.
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I guess LE asked for source of Dylan has declined the Nobel prize...
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By the way, I love this video with guy comparing performances of Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan. And Bob Dylan reminds me someone... :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BePLr46LNNU
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https://theguard1an.com/breaking-news-bob-dylan-rejects-nobel-laureates-accolade/
It was also in all Slovenian newspapers
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twm, as it is always great to read your nice posts, I do feel bad only a little bit to have made you writing this long answer. I indeed was referring to the next post about Bob declining the prize. I am not totally convinced by the way. I read a lot about the commitee not being able to get in touch with him. This might lead to confused news.
LE
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Bob has declined the Nobel prize..
He will explain more on saturday press conference.
Is there any article, video etc of that press conference?
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Bob has declined the Nobel prize..
He will explain more on saturday press conference.
Is there any article, video etc of that press conference?
Sorry, that's fake information. No press conference, no declining. Just Bob beinb Bob.
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Bob has declined the Nobel prize..
He will explain more on saturday press conference.
Is there any article, video etc of that press conference?
Sorry, that's fake information. No press conference, no declining. Just Bob beinb Bob.
How much I miss that Bob being Bob and Krusty references ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Apparently all references to his award have been removed from his website.
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The message on the signboard outside Hibbing High School:
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In an earlier post, I said that I couldn't recall the precise details of when it was first suggested that Dylan be awarded the Nobel prize for Literature. A friend on the other side of the world has provided the answer. I used to write a Dylan newsletter (indeed, I did so for 28 years) and I was pointed to the correct issue.
It was Item number 3492 (I used to number every news item to allow for ready cross-referencing) in issue number 1197 of THE WICKED MESSENGER (the title of a Dylan song, if you didn't know) and was written on 28 September 1996. It was published in issue number 69 of a Dylan fanzine called ISIS (still going and a title taken from another Dylan song), which was the October-November 1996 issue. My newsletters in that issue covered the period from 23 August 1996 to 12 October 1996 - 15 pages in all, over less than 2 months !!!!
I can now report that, when I woke that morning, there was a review of the newspapers on the radio and it informed me that there was a report in THE GUARDIAN about Dylan and the Nobel Prize. THE GUARDIAN said that there had been a campaign in Norway and that Professor Gordon Ball of the Virginia Military Institute in the United States, having received a form from the Academy, has sent a letter in support of the campaign saying of Dylan, amongst other things, that "He has restored the oral tradition with his minstrelsy, His work qualifies as both poetry and music".
So, it looks like this started some time in the mid-1990s but was first supported by an academic in late 1996. It has taken a mere 20 years.
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I'm so happy a songwriter got the Nobel prize for literature. I'm an literature student and in my university there's, of course, a lot of debating going on, but I'm always on the 'pro' side. I think it's only logical that poetry can be on music too. It still will be poetry when someone recites a poem on a stage, won't it? So if I sing poetry it will be poetry, still. To top that of, in ancient times poetry was meant to be sung.
I'm happy songwriters get the respect they should get. Although I'm happy, I think there should be a category for Music too. Musical structures take poetry to a whole other level. Let's campaign ;)
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In an earlier post, I said that I couldn't recall the precise details of when it was first suggested that Dylan be awarded the Nobel prize for Literature. A friend on the other side of the world has provided the answer. I used to write a Dylan newsletter (indeed, I did so for 28 years) and I was pointed to the correct issue.
It was Item number 3492 (I used to number every news item to allow for ready cross-referencing) in issue number 1197 of THE WICKED MESSENGER (the title of a Dylan song, if you didn't know) and was written on 28 September 1996. It was published in issue number 69 of a Dylan fanzine called ISIS (still going and a title taken from another Dylan song), which was the October-November 1996 issue. My newsletters in that issue covered the period from 23 August 1996 to 12 October 1996 - 15 pages in all, over less than 2 months !!!!
I can now report that, when I woke that morning, there was a review of the newspapers on the radio and it informed me that there was a report in THE GUARDIAN about Dylan and the Nobel Prize. THE GUARDIAN said that there had been a campaign in Norway and that Professor Gordon Ball of the Virginia Military Institute in the United States, having received a form from the Academy, has sent a letter in support of the campaign saying of Dylan, amongst other things, that "He has restored the oral tradition with his minstrelsy, His work qualifies as both poetry and music".
always been flabbergasted by the detailed knowledge of dylan fans.
So, it looks like this started some time in the mid-1990s but was first supported by an academic in late 1996. It has taken a mere 20 years.
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Just to let you know that Dylan fanzine I mentioned in a previous post(ISIS) has got to Issue No.188, with No.189 currently being put together. The magazine is A4-size, printed on glossy paper and comes out 6 times a year. Issue No.188 has 54 pages, around 20 of the pages being in full colour. ISIS
There is also another British Dylan fanzine. It's called THE BRIDGE. It is A5 size, with over 100 glossy pages per issue and is perfect-bound. It comes out three times a year. It has continued the legacy of THE TELEGRAPH, following the sad death of its editor and principal founder, John Bauldie. THE TELEGRAPH started publishing in November 1981.
Between these two magazines, we fans of "Mr Bob" get over 600 pages per annum of Dylan news, analysis, reviews etc., etc ., etc. This is in addition to a daily on-line news compilation (Expecting Rain) and a seemingly endless supply of books about Dylan.
These things may not be about the literary worthiness or otherwise of Dylan but they do indicate the scope and impact of his output over the years.
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In this fanzines, there are any references to Knopfler, when they recorded and toured together?
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There will be something (at least about INFIDELS and their touring together) I would have thought. I doubt if there's much about SLOW TRAIN COMING because thatwas before these fanzines really got going.
You should, however, know (if it has not come to your attention already) that the next BOOTLEG SERIES release will likely cover Mr Bob's "Gospel Years" - that is, 1979 to 1981. I do not know the content but I would like to think that there will be out-takes and alternate takes of songs from the SLOW TRAIN COMING sessions. For example, they did several complete takes of "Trouble In Mind", "Gotta Serve Somebody", Do Right To Me Baby", "When He Returns" and "Man Gave Names" as well as a song entitled, "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One". There were also some overdub sessions that involved MK.
If (and I emphasise "IF") there is a large (and thus quite expensive) collectors' edition, we might even get something like THE CUTTING EDGE (that is, a lot of studio material as they all worked towards the final released version of the album). If so, they'd probably include some concert recordings, from this period, in the Collectors' Edition but these would not include MK, so would be of less interest to AMIT-ers.
This is ALL SPECULATION on my part. I have no inside knowledge so I stress that I have absolutely no idea as to the final content. Indeed, I suspect that those compiling it don't know the content yet either.
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That would be splendid! I like those Christian records...
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There will be something (at least about INFIDELS and their touring together) I would have thought. I doubt if there's much about SLOW TRAIN COMING because thatwas before these fanzines really got going.
You should, however, know (if it has not come to your attention already) that the next BOOTLEG SERIES release will likely cover Mr Bob's "Gospel Years" - that is, 1979 to 1981. I do not know the content but I would like to think that there will be out-takes and alternate takes of songs from the SLOW TRAIN COMING sessions. For example, they did several complete takes of "Trouble In Mind", "Gotta Serve Somebody", Do Right To Me Baby", "When He Returns" and "Man Gave Names" as well as a song entitled, "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One". There were also some overdub sessions that involved MK.
If (and I emphasise "IF") there is a large (and thus quite expensive) collectors' edition, we might even get something like THE CUTTING EDGE (that is, a lot of studio material as they all worked towards the final released version of the album). If so, they'd probably include some concert recordings, from this period, in the Collectors' Edition but these would not include MK, so would be of less interest to AMIT-ers.
This is ALL SPECULATION on my part. I have no inside knowledge so I stress that I have absolutely no idea as to the final content. Indeed, I suspect that those compiling it don't know the content yet either.
slow train coming is one of my absolute favourite BD albums, MK playing so well on it is only a bonus for me..
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The Gospel era bootleg is a very strong rumour, and very exciting, the outtakes from Slow Train & Saved and his live passionate concerts at that time, amazing. I've never enjoyed Shot of Love, but the already available alt. version of Every Grain Of Sand is a true masterpiece (on par with Blind Willie) / complete with dog barking in the background. Check it out on vol3 Bootleg series. Would love to hear some new interesting guitar takes from Mark of course.
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Yes, indeed - and some of the shows in 1980 were professionally filmed (again, no MK, I'm afraid).
Logically, there will be material from the SAVED and SHOT OF LOVE sessions, so the MK content may be less than you AMIT-ers would wish but the chances of something "new" (and thus of interest to you) seems pretty high to me.
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From "slow train" I can't recall many songs left out apart Trouble in mind and some that are already in the bootleg session 1-3, probably TWM knows more about that sessions and how many songs were left out...
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Here are the SLOW TRAIN COMING session details as believed correct by Dylan collectors. If you compare the released tracks against the NOTES, you will establish which complete recordings have not yet been released.
1979 SLOW TRAIN COMING RECORDING SESSIONS
30 April 1979
1.Trouble In Mind
2.Trouble In Mind
3.Trouble In Mind
4.Trouble In Mind
5.Trouble In Mind
6.Trouble In Mind
7.Trouble In Mind
8.Trouble In Mind
Bootleg CD The Genuine Bootleg Series Vol. 3 (track 7)
Official releases
7 released on single Columbia 1-11072, September 1979.
7 released on CD PURE DYLAN – AN INTIMATE LOOK AT BOB DYLAN, Sony Music 8 86979 88082 5, 21 October 2011.
Notes
Last verse on track 7 edited out on the released single.
Tracks 1 is a false start, all others are complete.
Track 7 is overdubbed 3,5 and 6 May 1979.
Track 7 is complete on The Genuine Bootleg Series Vol. 3.
1 May 1979
1.Precious Angel
2.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
3.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
4.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
5.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
6.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
7.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
8.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
9.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
10.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
11.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
Official releases
1 released on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia FC-36120, 28 August 1979 and Columbia CK-36120, (CD), 1986.
1 released on 3 CD box set DYLAN, Columbia 88697114202-D2, 1 October 2007.
1 released in remastered version on the CD/SACD SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 512349-6 as part of the CD box BOB DYLAN REVISITED, THE REISSUE SERIES, 24 March 2004.
1 released in remastered version on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 88691924312-26 as part of the CD box THE COMPLETE ALBUM COLLECTION, VOL. ONE, 5 November 2013.
Notes
Track 1 overdubbed 5, 7, 10 and 11 May 1979.
Track 8 was considered for release and overdubbed 3 May 1979.
Tracks 10 is a false start, track 7 is incomplete.
2 May 1979
1.When You Gonna Wake Up
2.When You Gonna Wake Up
3.When You Gonna Wake Up
4.Gonna Change My Way Of Thinking
5.Ye Shall Be Changed
Official releases
3, 4 released on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia FC-36120, 28 August 1979 and Columbia CK-36120, (CD), 1986.
3, 4 released in remastered versions on the CD/SACD SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 512349-6 as part of the CD box BOB DYLAN REVISITED, THE REISSUE SERIES, 24 March 2004.
3, 4 released in remastered versions on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 88691924312-26 as part of the CD box THE COMPLETE ALBUM COLLECTION, VOL. ONE, 5 November 2013.
5 released on THE BOOTLEG SERIES (RARE & UNRELEASED) 1961-1991, Volume 3, Columbia 468 086 2, 26 March 1991.
3 released on single Columbia 1-11168, November 1979.
Notes
Track 3 overdubbed 4, 6, 10 and 11 May 1979.
Track 4 overdubbed 5 and 11 May 1979.
Track 5 overdubbed 4 May 1979.
3 May 1979
1.Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One
2.I Believe In You
3.I Believe In You
4.Slow Train
Official releases
2, 4 released on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia FC-36120, 28 August 1979 and Columbia CK-36120, (CD), 1986.
2, 4 released in remastered versions on the CD/SACD SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 512349-6 as part of the CD box BOB DYLAN REVISITED, THE REISSUE SERIES, 24 March 2004.
2, 4 released in remastered versions on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 88691924312-26 as part of the CD box THE COMPLETE ALBUM COLLECTION, VOL. ONE, 5 November 2013.
2 released on BIOGRAPH, Columbia C5X & C3K 38830, 28 October 1985.
4 released on single Columbia 1-11235, January 1980.
Notes
Track 3 is incomplete.
Track 2 overdubbed 4 and 11 May 1979.
Track 4 overdubbed 4, 5, 6, 10 and 11 May 1979.
4 May 1979
1.Gotta Serve Somebody
2.Gotta Serve Somebody
3.Gotta Serve Somebody
4.Gotta Serve Somebody
5.Do Right To Me Baby (Do Unto Others)
6.Do Right To Me Baby (Do Unto Others)
7.Do Right To Me Baby (Do Unto Others)
8.Do Right To Me Baby (Do Unto Others)
9.When He Returns
10.When He Returns
11.When He Returns
12.When He Returns
13.When He Returns
14.When He Returns
15.When He Returns
16.When He Returns
17.When He Returns
18.Man Gave Names To All The Animals
19.Man Gave Names To All The Animals
20.Man Gave Names To All The Animals
21.Man Gave Names To All The Animals
22.Man Gave Names To All The Animals
23.Man Gave Names To All The Animals
Official releases
3, 8, 17, 23 released on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia FC-36120, 28 August 1979 and Columbia CK-36120, (CD), 1986.
3, 8, 17, 23 released in remastered versions on the CD/SACD SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 512349-6 as part of the CD box BOB DYLAN REVISITED, THE REISSUE SERIES, 24 March 2004.
3, 8, 17, 23 released in remastered versions on SLOW TRAIN COMING, Columbia 88691924312-26 as part of the CD box THE COMPLETE ALBUM COLLECTION, VOL. ONE, 5 November 2013.
3 released on BOB DYLAN’S GREATEST HITS VOLUME 3, Columbia 477805 2, 15 November 1994.
3 released on THE BEST OF BOB DYLAN, Columbia SONYTV28CD, 2 June 1997.
3 released on BIOGRAPH, Columbia C5X & C3K 38830, 28 October 1985.
3 released on DYLAN ON DYLAN, Westwood One (Radio Station Discs), 17 November 1984.
3 released on single Columbia 1-11072, September 1979.
3 released in Sweden on THE VERY BEST OF BOB DYLAN, Columbia COL 498540 2, 5 May 2000.
3 released on 3 CD box set DYLAN, Columbia 88697114202-D2, 1 October 2007.
3 released on BLUES, Columbia/Legacy 88697009172, 19 December 2006.
3 released as an animated video on the DVD GOTTA SERVE SOMEBODY-THE GOSPEL SONGS OF BOB DYLAN, Columbia Legacy CK 89015, 24 March 2003.
8 released on single Columbia 1-11235, January 1980.
23 released on single Columbia 1-11168, November 1979.
Notes
Tracks 6, 12–16, 18–21 are incomplete.
Track 3 overdubbed 4 and 11 May 1979.
Track 23 overdubbed 7 May 1979.
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It looks that there is one track not available in any bootleg or edition...
Thanks TWM!
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One out-take, a number of alternate takes and maybe some pre-overdub versions.
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A great speech from His Bobness as always: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2016/dylan-speech.html
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Yes, I like how he compares himself with Shakespeare without sounding arrogant! :clap ;D
LE
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Is there any version of "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One"? I think I don't have that song...
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A great speech from His Bobness as always: https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2016/dylan-speech.html
Yes quizzaciously I agree with you this is a really great interesting speech!!! :thumbsup
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Yes, I like how he compares himself with Shakespeare without sounding arrogant! :clap ;D
LE
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thumbsup :thumbsup :wave
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As others have noted, Dylan's Nobel speech was very interesting. For me, I was particularly interested to read his reference to Shakespeare, having written the following earlier in this thread (in Reply # 21, to be precise):
As for Dylan's place being in popular culture, we should remember that Shakespeare, in his time, wrote his plays not just to be performed but also to be popular. Were he writing plays today, would this invalidate his being considered for this prize? Let alone winning it one year?
To change the subject to "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One", there is one cover version as I recall and Dylan himself performed it live a few times. You can find it on-line. Here are the lyrics from Mr Bob's website:
Ain’t No Man Righteous, No Not One
WRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN
When a man he serves the Lord, it makes his life worthwhile
It don’t matter ’bout his position, it don’t matter ’bout his lifestyle
Talk about perfection, I ain’t never seen none
And there ain’t no man righteous, no not one
Sometimes the devil likes to drive you from the neighborhood
He’ll even work his ways through those whose intentions are good
Some like to worship on the moon, others are worshipping the sun
And there ain’t no man righteous, no not one
Look around, ya see so many social hypocrites
Like to make rules for others while they do just the opposite
You can’t get to glory by the raising and the lowering of no flag
Put your goodness next to God’s and it comes out like a filthy rag
In a city of darkness there’s no need of the sun
And there ain’t no man righteous, no not one
Done so many evil things in the name of love, it’s a crying shame
I never did see no fire that could put out a flame
Pull your hat down, baby, pull the wool down over your eyes
Keep a-talking, baby, ’til you run right out of alibis
Someday you’ll account for all the deeds that you done
Well, there ain’t no man righteous, no not one
God got the power, man has got his vanity
Man gotta choose before God can set him free
Don’t you know there’s nothing new that’s under the sun?
Well, there ain’t no man righteous, no not one
When I’m gone don’t wonder where I be
Just say that I trusted in God and that Christ was in me
Say He defeated the devil, He was God’s chosen Son
And that there ain’t no man righteous, no not one
Copyright Copyright © 1981 Special Rider Music
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So there is not any version of the Slow Train Coming sessions of that song?
I like the STC lyrics, althought I´m not religious, they are really well written from someone who just convert to christianism...
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Two songs recorded at the SLOW TRAIN COMING sessions that did not appear on the album were: "Ye Shall Be Changed" and "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One". Both were considered for THE BOOTLEG SERIES Vols.1-3 (the first in the series) but, in the end, only "Ye Shall Be Changed" was included in that release.
As far as I can recall, Dylan's recording of "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One" from the SLOW TRAIN COMING sessions has never been released and, though we cannot know for sure, it is therefore likely to be included in any "Gospel Years" release in THE BOOTLEG SERIES. I do not know the precise details of the 1 May 1979 session but there appear to have been at least 4 complete takes of the song (Takes 3, 6, 7 and 8, which are Nos. 4, 8, 9 and 11 on 1 May 1979 list in Reply # 45 above). Take 6 (No. 8 in that list) was the take considered for release before.