A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Vesper on October 18, 2016, 05:42:50 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/GibsonCustom/photos/a.279380565407432.77888.269428026402686/1322670761078402/?type=3&theater
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WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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I was amazed initially, but since it's Custom Shop, no way I will afford it anyway, as well as any "normal" musician.
As with Martin's "The Ragpicker's Dream" Signature Acoustic, 100 collectors-millionaires would buy it and that's it.
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I'd guess that it will be cost more than 10,000 US$.....
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By way of comparison, cost of an Ace Frehley model is just shy of 10k...
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/AF034/2015-ace-frehley-1959-les-paul-reissue-vintage-gloss/?cat_id=244
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:o :o :o :o :o
Given that I have taken a hiatus from social media due to the political season in America, please keep this forum updated if anyone hears information about ordering one... I think I may have to have one!!!
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It will be two types. One in Aged finish and one in VOS. The price for the VOS guitar will be somewhere around 6500 and the aged will be somewhere around 8000 american dollars.. My local dealer confirmed the two types, but said they didn´t know exactly what the prices would be yet.
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:o :o :o :o :o
Given that I have taken a hiatus from social media due to the political season in America, please keep this forum updated if anyone hears information about ordering one... I think I may have to have one!!!
Even for $10,000? :o :o :o :o :o :o
I contacted one of my MK-friends and he said he will buy MK Les Paul regardless of price point, he will put it on a stand to LOOK at it.
So this is definitely the guitar to look at, but not to play on it. Stop the Earth, please, I quit.
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Even for $10,000? :o :o :o :o :o :o
I contacted one of my MK-friends and he said he will buy MK Les Paul regardless of price point, he will put it on a stand to LOOK at it.
So this is definitely the guitar to look at, but not to play on it. Stop the Earth, please, I quit.
If they stick to the mold of having a very small number of them actually signed by Mark (it looks like they often do 50 guitars for a run like this, and on some models Gibson claims that the artists personally played them for approval) then yes, even for 10k. 10k just for a piece of paper to say it is a MK Les Paul, no. That having been said, it isn't unheard of for a 58 or 59 reissue to retail between 5-7k without an artist endorsement, especially if it is 'aged'. So, if it specifies somewhere that it is a MK Paul, then 8k isn't out of the question.
All of this having been said, I am perfectly aware that my guitar obsession is, for lack of a better word, a disease lol. I am in the process of building an automated climate controlled room for all of my guitars. I can't wait until it is finished.
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:o :o :o :o :o
Given that I have taken a hiatus from social media due to the political season in America, please keep this forum updated if anyone hears information about ordering one... I think I may have to have one!!!
Even for $10,000? :o :o :o :o :o :o
I contacted one of my MK-friends and he said he will buy MK Les Paul regardless of price point, he will put it on a stand to LOOK at it.
So this is definitely the guitar to look at, but not to play on it. Stop the Earth, please, I quit.
Most of these Les Paul signature models go to collectors.
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Best source of info here. Apparently MK is signing 50 in London next month.
http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?202565-Gibson-Custom-Introduces-Knopfler&p=2729288#post2729288
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Best source of info here. Apparently MK is signing 50 in London next month.
http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?202565-Gibson-Custom-Introduces-Knopfler&p=2729288#post2729288
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So frustrating that it needs a truck full of money for buying it. Makes me think how Fender was so much people-oriented STILL releasing a signature guitar, and at the same time one of THE best signature models for ordinary musicians, not collectors. I know it WILL find its buyers, I know all that, but it definitely would not be me in this lifetime and this is a shame. And I know all custom & Signature Les Pauls cost a fortune.
I wonder how Mark finds this? He might as well release his signature Range Rover MK or Omega Speedmaster Mark Knopfler Signature watch.
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There were interviews years ago where he said that Gibson were interested in doing a signature but he was worried about the cost. But then he also speculated about a Mexican version of the Strat to keep costs down and that never happened.
We can moan about these being out of reach of most of us but the fact is the same is true of the signature Martins and Pensas so nothing's really changed.
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A perfect buyer right there.
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So, the scoop I am getting from my preferred Gibson dealer is that there are three options for the guitar. Two are Standard Historic Models, one aged (limited to 100 worldwide) for roughly 6700 USD and one VOS (limited to 150 worldwide) for roughly 5100 USD. There will also be a True Historic Model, alleged to be hand signed by Mark limited to 50 worldwide, but no one quite knows the price or release on that line yet. The VOS models have already been distributed to dealers. I have one with my name on it while I try to sort this out....
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Showing up on dealer websites now withe prices
https://www.thomann.de/gb/gibson_58_les_paul_mark_knopfler_vos_2.htm?feedid=2724
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Andertons have a picture of aged one already: https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/LP58MKSBNH1/solid-body-electric-guitars/gibson-custom-shop-mark-knopfler-58-reissue-les-paul-vos
And so what? It looks nothing like MK's 1958 Les Paul! Where's the hang tag's shadow? How could they build MK's LP without it? Sort of.
This is not "exact replica" as stated, but rather "expensive guitar loosely based on MK's 1958 LP". And why top is so flamed, anyway?
I'm saying this not because I can't afford the instrument, but because of lack of understanding.
(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/features/guitars/mark-knopfler2015/gear/knopflerles-paul169-450-100-1200-80.jpg)
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It will be for sale 3 model, yes? VOS, Aged and Aged/Signed. Maybe, I mistake? But VOS is like look form almost from facktory no? SO no hangign tag schadow.
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And so what? It looks nothing like MK's 1958 Les Paul! Where's the hang tag's shadow? How could they build MK's LP without it? Sort of.
This is not "exact replica" as stated, but rather "expensive guitar loosely based on MK's 1958 LP". And why top is so flamed, anyway?
Thank you for the picture. I think this is the VOS model meaning that it has same specs than Knopfler´s guitar. Actually, Knopfler´s LP had once flamed top but now it has been worn down to "unburst".
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And so what? It looks nothing like MK's 1958 Les Paul! Where's the hang tag's shadow? How could they build MK's LP without it? Sort of.
This is not "exact replica" as stated, but rather "expensive guitar loosely based on MK's 1958 LP". And why top is so flamed, anyway?
Thank you for the picture. I think this is the VOS model meaning that it has same specs than Knopfler´s guitar. Actually, Knopfler´s LP had once flamed top but now it has been wear down to "unburst".
Can't wait to see aged version then! And it really can go from flamed top to plain top just like that? I like the look of plain tops very much.
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Hey guys! P#rn is not allowed at amit!
:P
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And why this guitar would be special? The fender has his sign in the guitar, would this Gibson will have it too?
I don't know.much about guitars but it looks like another 58 or 59 les Paul to me...
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This guy has one already:
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378388
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I don't believe it has MK's stenciled signature anywhere. MK is however is in the serial number. I should be able to post some high res images of a VOS in the next day or two. MK017 is on its way to me as I type this.
As for aged models, I highly doubt that it will be aged to be identical to Mark's. That having been said, I have never really understood why the general guitar player/collector would want an "aged" guitar unless they are trying to give the appearance on stage that they are playing an original. Aged is just not my thing. That having been said, the Aged models (unsigned) should be hitting the dealers in the next week or two. The signed models are alleged to be signed by Mark next month in London according to the rumor mill.
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Another pic from Gibson's instagram. I believe this is now the "Real Deal".
(https://scontent-fra3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14718202_1000941700032945_7803611262188781568_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTM2ODE5MDgzMTMxNjc3MTI0OQ%3D%3D.2)
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Another pic from Gibson's instagram. I believe this is now the "Real Deal".
(https://scontent-fra3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14718202_1000941700032945_7803611262188781568_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTM2ODE5MDgzMTMxNjc3MTI0OQ%3D%3D.2)
That picture is way better than the other ones, but that seems to be a problem every time Gibson bring out a new Collector's Choice guitar. The pictures they take look nothing like the real thing, but when you see the guitars side by side or an owner takes pictures himself, they are indistinguishable most of the time. Why they can't get someone to take good photos, I just don't understand, you'd expect better from such a brand.
Also, the flame in the top doesn't change with age, but rather the redness of the sunburst, which fades away due to sunlight. Peter Green's famous Les Paul, for example, has practically no red left.
Now if only I could find the money to buy this gem...
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You are right, the flame doesn't change with age but it can be very difficult to photograph. I have a very flamey LP but on certain lights it can look like a plain top.
There will probably be a mix of flames and Plains on this run for commercial reasons - even though the original is plain, people just love flame.
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You are right, the flame doesn't change with age but it can be very difficult to photograph. I have a very flamey LP but on certain lights it can look like a plain top.
Yes of course, sorry for my post. Those old LPs had problem that sunburst went to "unburst".
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I agree with flame and lighting. I snapped a few shots this morning in bad light just to get them out here, but will play with better lighting in the coming days. To contrast, the first photo was a professionally taken shot from the dealer. You can see the effect lighting has on a flame top. To the naked eye, it doesn't appear to have as much flame as it does in my photos. Also attached are a couple shots of the leatherette bound COA from Gibson.
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/Knopfler%20Les%20Paul/MK.png)(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/Knopfler%20Les%20Paul/DSC_1070.jpg)
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/Knopfler%20Les%20Paul/DSC_1071.jpg)
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/Knopfler%20Les%20Paul/DSC_1073.jpg)
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/Knopfler%20Les%20Paul/DSC_1078.jpg)
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/iflycessnas05/Knopfler%20Les%20Paul/DSC_1079.jpg)
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Mark is equally capable of doing $1500 signature guitars and $999999999 signature guitars so that you desperately want them both.
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Very nice guitar! Is the neck profile classical 50s profile?
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I read that there will be different 3 models ! And not that much.... Can't find the prices anymore...
x150 VOS
x100 aged
x50 aged signed by MK (Sold out)
Only x1 aged signed in Europe
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Very nice guitar! Is the neck profile classical 50s profile?
I am not sure exactly what they classify the spec on the guitar. Here are two wordings of what it is from listings: "These guitars are Standard Historic Spec which means it will feel like an original 58' with the same chunky neck shape and rolled fret edges to feel like its been played in." AND "Neck: 1 Piece Genuine Mahogany, Double-Carved, Knopfler Profile".
Mark is equally capable of doing $1500 signature guitars and $999999999 signature guitars so that you desperately want them both.
If you compare the price a comparably built Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul, this is only a couple hundred more. I feel the price is fair for a hand built instrument. As for Mark, I don't think he receives that much in royalties from such a small run, and may not even be financial.
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I read that there will be different 3 models ! And not that much.... Can't find the prices anymore...
x150 VOS
x100 aged
x50 aged signed by MK (Sold out)
Only x1 aged signed in Europe
I posted that a few days ago with prices (except for the signed), with the exception of the signed guitars already being sold out. A few gibson forum's have Mark signing them next month in London...
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Okay I didn't read all the topic, I had the info on facebook :D
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Okay I didn't read all the topic, I had the info on facebook :D
Did Gibson say the signed were sold out? I am not on FB these days thanks to our political climate, and have been trying to track that information down!!!!
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Okay I didn't read all the topic, I had the info on facebook :D
Did Gibson say the signed were sold out? I am not on FB these days thanks to our political climate, and have been trying to track that information down!!!!
Got the information from someone very reliable... so I believe it's true.... and expect it's not for all the guys who still want one :)
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Got the information from someone very reliable... so I believe it's true.... and expect it's not for all the guys who still want one :)
Agreed.... I want one of those 50 pretty bad, but didn't expect they would much be available to the general public, so I jumped on a VOS just in case...
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Found back the info Prices could be different depending on dealers... ( Europe prices)
VOS : 3 800-4 400€
Aged : 5 200-5 700€
Aged & signed : 8 800-9 500€
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50 aged & signed SOLD OUT? :o
Man, this I would call fast! The problem is, we have a very serious situation in economics here in Russia, so even buying a "simple" $5,099 MK Les Paul would mean putting in average ANNUAL salary in the country, I'm dead truckin' serious. This guitar worth around ~450-500,000 rubles after all exchanges and taxes, but before economical crisis it would be just around ~200,000 which is a lot, but at least reasonable. So people in Russia should not even think about this guitar. If you aren't a Russian oligarch of course ;D
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Found back the info Prices could be different depending on dealers... ( Europe prices)
VOS : 3 800-4 400€
Aged : 5 200-5 700€
Aged & signed : 8 800-9 500€
Would you happen to know a dealer in Europe that lists the VOS version at that price? All I can find is Anderton's (at about €4 700) and Thomann (which seems to be sold out).
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Found back the info Prices could be different depending on dealers... ( Europe prices)
VOS : 3 800-4 400€
Aged : 5 200-5 700€
Aged & signed : 8 800-9 500€
Would you happen to know a dealer in Europe that lists the VOS version at that price? All I can find is Anderton's (at about €4 700) and Thomann (which seems to be sold out).
That's what I said it could be different depending on the dealers... I believe the announced prices are a low average...
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I have a VOS on pre-order from Andertons. I would wait for an aged version but can't really afford one and I'm not after an exact 'replica' of Mark's Les Paul as such. It's the specs I'm after. They had three available for pre-order on Sunday. Don't know if all of them have gone now or even if I managed to fill out the horrifically complicated finance form before they were all snapped up but fingers crossed I will actually have one for myself in the next month or two!
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Full specs is on MKNews:
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/images/MKLP_specs.jpg
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Full specs is on MKNews:
http://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/images/MKLP_specs.jpg
Man What a displeasure not to buy 1 of of these Aged&Signed
I have enough money to buy all the 50 Aged&Signed that are available worldwide and yesterday I thought to buy 1 as investment
but today I have thought that since I can't play it all (beacuse of my wrists problem that some of you know) and since there are only 50 available worldwide I should leave it to someone who can play
What about buying a "regular" aged guitar and signing it after a concert? I think it would be even more valuable and signature'd make sense.
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In case someone missed aged MK Les Paul, here's very good $10k alternative: https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/85183/true-historic-1958-les-paul-reissue-tom-murphy-aged/?cat_id=242
If you sign it after a concert, throw out useless case candy, it will be as good as MK 1958 Les Paul. Or maybe even better!
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He used one at the Bill Wyman gig on Playtime Deluxe :)
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He used one at the Bill Wyman gig on Playtime Deluxe :)
Oh my God, I thought about it, but now since we can see the label (the fact he left it on the guitar is insane though), it's pretty reMarkable.
So now he can play 95% of setlist on signature instruments — Fenders, Nationals, Pensas, Schecters, Martins and Gibsons. Man, I don't know if I'll ever be envier as NOW. Mark is Immensely inspirational human being indeed. Just imagine that... it's... insane.
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That label on his LP reminds me of this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2548802/Top-Gear-switches-low-gear-hosts-Jeremy-Clarkson-James-May-experience-streets-London-cyclists.html
The Picture with Jezza and James May wearing those clothing tags....
;D ;D ;D
I know, that newspaper is ....
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This is for Gibson experts here.
What's the difference between the aged and the signed ones?
What does "true" means vs. "just" aged?
All specs are the same besides the finish?
Obviously, the signature is only on the signed, which I wonder where is it going to appear?
Are they really shipping 50 guitars all the way to London (and back) for Mark to sign?...
Thanks!
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This is for Gibson experts here.
What's the difference between the aged and the signed ones?
What does "true" means vs. "just" aged?
All specs are the same besides the finish?
Obviously, the signature is only on the signed, which I wonder where is it going to appear?
Are they really shipping 50 guitars all the way to London (and back) for Mark to sign?...
Thanks!
"True historic" Les Pauls have even more attention to detail than the "regular" reissues, for example the correct kind of plastic, a different kind of carve on the top, glue made from horses, ... Of course, this manifests itself in the price as well...
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When to bought a MK Less Paul, you cen even chose the horse from whom to make glue ;D HEE HAH!
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When to bought a MK Less Paul, you cen even chose the horse from whom to make glue ;D HEE HAH!
LOL!
On a serious note, how many people would distinguish his real 1958 from reissue (apart from label) on this concert? I believe, this number is zero.
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Hello everyone,
I'm a fan of Mark and guitarist, I positioned myself at different stores for the chance to have a Les Paul model 58 and I will have aged 2.
There're only 4 pieces for France (I am in France)
If anyone becomes interested I could possibly sell one of them guitars.
have a good day.
rico
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Hello everyone,
I'm a fan of Mark and guitarist, I positioned myself at different stores for the chance to have a Les Paul model 58 and I will have aged 2.
There're only 4 pieces for France (I am in France)
If anyone becomes interested I could possibly sell one of them guitars.
have a good day.
rico
Do you make discount as they will be then second hand guitar?
I can offer $150 :wave
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Hello everyone,
I'm a fan of Mark and guitarist, I positioned myself at different stores for the chance to have a Les Paul model 58 and I will have aged 2.
There're only 4 pieces for France (I am in France)
If anyone becomes interested I could possibly sell one of them guitars.
have a good day.
rico
Do you make discount as they will be then second hand guitar?
I can offer $150 :wave
Well, I can offer 10 times more, but still it would be 0.9999999999% of the price :lol
It's just a piece of wood people.
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It's just a piece of wood people.
Yes. And the money it costs are just bits of paper - probably made from even less wood than the guitar itself. :)
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It's just a piece of wood people.
Yes. And the money it costs are just bits of paper - probably made from even less wood than the guitar itself. :)
You need a lot of wood and water to make a simple sheet of paper...
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First one, already on ebay...
http://m.ebay.com/itm/201717520956?_mwBanner=1
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First one, already on ebay...
http://m.ebay.com/itm/201717520956?_mwBanner=1
Hey mister give me two give me two 'cause any two can play :lol
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Already 60 views per hour... Drooling Gibson, lol!
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First one, already on ebay...
http://m.ebay.com/itm/201717520956?_mwBanner=1
I must say, I am impressed for the first time in a long time on the 'aging', that having been said, I am happy that I choose the VOS... I do like that the serial number spells out KNOPFLER instead of MK as the VOS does.
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And on the aged & signed you'll get the signature and serial number, Both in Mark's hand writing
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And on the aged & signed you'll get the signature and serial number, Both in Mark's hand writing
If anyone knows of a lead on one, please pm me. I have been in contact with everyone I know in the business trying to track one down. Thus far unsuccessfully.
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Hi,
What do you want exactly ?
Buy a aged or aged signed ?
R
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Hi,
What do you want exactly ?
Buy a aged or aged signed ?
R
Thanks for asking! I am looking for a True Historic aged&signed. I have a VOS and passed on the aged.
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To be honest, I don't get the idea of an aged guitars, and all the relics that is. If I'd had enough money to buy any of MK 1958 Custom Les Pauls, I'd buy the VOS one and would beat it up by myself. Can't see one reason of going over aged one. Especially if you know the process of how they actually do "the ageing", they just bump it with stones and stuff, and mimic lacquer cracks with a scalpel, and that's it. Same goes with signed version — I don't care about signature, it's just someone damaging the guitar. If you get signature in person it's another story.
So my ideal solution would be buying VOS MK 1958 Les Paul and signing it by the man himself, and this would be THE shit.
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Also, how many of you know that Gibson utilises their "signature" Bumblebee Capacitors in all their guitars which is just 5 cents (literally) cheap Wesco capacitors made TO LOOK like it's a genuine thing? And they also sell it for 100$ or so. Some people are dyeing their grey hair, so what do I know? I just hate forgery in all forms there is, including signature you have nothing to do with, tribute bands, aged guitars, etc.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/5F6-A/WescoCap.jpg)
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So my ideal solution would be buying VOS MK 1958 Les Paul and signing it by the man himself, and this would be THE shit.
Interesting that you are allowed to say Shit while if I would say Sex or anything that has Sex in it would be marked as Spam... ;D
LE
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See what I mean?
LE
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So my ideal solution would be buying VOS MK 1958 Les Paul and signing it by the man himself, and this would be THE shit.
Interesting that you are allowed to say Shit while if I would say spam or anything that has spam in it would be marked as Spam... ;D
LE
Haha, I understand you! But as fas as I'm concerned, the word "shit" in English is pretty much neutral and the meaning of it hugely depends on the context, and in many cases is can be a very positive word, like in my case. And by saying "the shit" one simply means "the best". And what especially funny is that Mark himself said, that "Dire Straits" means "In shit" on BBC interview or something like that. This is example of a bad context.
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Hi,
What do you want exactly ?
Buy a aged or aged signed ?
R
Thanks for asking! I am looking for a True Historic aged&signed. I have a VOS and passed on the aged.
PM sent
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There's Aged #13 in the Wildwood Guitars shop. Can't wait for the demo from their all mighty Greg Koch!
And I know he will demo it, because Mark is one of his favourite players.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BM1xfnuBJNR/
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Three aged and one VOS Les Paul for your listening and dining pleasure at Wildwood Guitars:
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/KNOPFLER009/limited-edition-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged-3/?cat_id=32
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/KNOPFLER013/limited-edition-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged-2/?cat_id=32
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/KNOPFLER008/limited-edition-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged/?cat_id=32
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/MK012/limited-edition-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos/?cat_id=32
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More of the VOS ones:
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/MK009/limited-edition-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos-4/?cat_id=32
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/MK010/limited-edition-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos-2/?cat_id=32
https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/MK014/limited-edition-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos-3/?cat_id=32
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Wow!
It seems there's going to be a clip with Mark talking about the new Gibsons
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Wow!
It seems there's going to be a clip with Mark talking about the new Gibsons
I request a caption contest for this picture :lol
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You can actually watch it here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vu69q77rovnseh4/AABVbGntEXMfZ9Dprd-FK08xa?dl=0Message%3A&lst=&preview=Mark+Knopfler+-+Full+Video+-+Alternative+Format+(if+the+other+one+doesn%27t+work%2C+use+this).mp4
They posted a link to a teaser on dropbox on the MK.com site, but you can actually swipe to the whole thing.
Note what Mark says at 1.36!!!
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Some pictures
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You can actually watch it here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vu69q77rovnseh4/AABVbGntEXMfZ9Dprd-FK08xa?dl=0Message%3A&lst=&preview=Mark+Knopfler+-+Full+Video+-+Alternative+Format+(if+the+other+one+doesn%27t+work%2C+use+this).mp4
They posted a link to a teaser on dropbox on the MK.com site, but you can actually swipe to the whole thing.
Note what Mark says at 1.36!!!
Thank you! He also said "Nothing wrong for waiting for good things in life", truer words never been said.
Although the majority of us, like Mark's father, would never afford one of these, we can at least hope for it :clap
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I think I got lucky, link already down.
But here we go!
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Couldn't care less about all this guitar porn balihoo to be honest but boy does MK look great! Cool outfit, smiling all the time, really cool speaking. Very good shape and form. He knows what he owes them obviously. Like his noodling also. Hope this guitar and it's sound gets reflected on the next album. :thumbsup
LE
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Funny that he uses exactly the same "poor old dad" lines as he used when speaking about the first Strat, I almost fulfill his lines with "It had to be red, it had to be electric..." no, wait, red?
:hmm :lol
LE
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Couldn't care less about all this guitar porn balihoo to be honest but boy does MK look great! Cool outfit, smiling all the time, really cool speaking. Very good shape and form. He knows what he owes them obviously. Like his noodling also. Hope this guitar and it's sound gets reflected on the next album. :thumbsup
LE
With all seriousness, I don't know what I would do with this guitar. I want it, but I don't know why, so I'm happy with my "cheap" little guitars.
And Mark as always looks stunning!
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WOW! I love this little film clip of Mark with the Gibson, in fact I can't stop watching - he looks so wonderful and happy. Can't wait now for news of what's going on in the studio! :think
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Thanks so much for sharing Klaas. Good research. Mark indeed is looking great
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Couldn't care less about all this guitar porn balihoo to be honest but boy does MK look great! Cool outfit, smiling all the time, really cool speaking. Very good shape and form. He knows what he owes them obviously. Like his noodling also. Hope this guitar and it's sound gets reflected on the next album. :thumbsup
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With all seriousness, I don't know what I would do with this guitar. I want it, but I don't know why, so I'm happy with my "cheap" little guitars.
And Mark as always looks stunning!
I once had the chance of hold and strum a Les Paul and... Wow..
You will find what to do with it for sure.
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for Mark Knopfler & Gibson
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
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Last image above is nothing but pornography! ;D
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You can actually watch it here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vu69q77rovnseh4/AABVbGntEXMfZ9Dprd-FK08xa?dl=0Message%3A&lst=&preview=Mark+Knopfler+-+Full+Video+-+Alternative+Format+(if+the+other+one+doesn%27t+work%2C+use+this).mp4
They posted a link to a teaser on dropbox on the MK.com site, but you can actually swipe to the whole thing.
Note what Mark says at 1.36!!!
The link doesn't work for me :(
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It was gone by the time I saw the dropbox link but stumbled across this on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-GrePuPF00
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It was gone by the time I saw the dropbox link but stumbled across this on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-GrePuPF00
Thanks for the link diremark86! Nice video... :)
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The video is now official.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--60MjJLY6w
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Ok, Mark is doing advertisement for very high (over?)priced guitar, this is business and he is part of it.
When you reflect about him saying they are great, well how could it be else?
These are selected instruments. So could you mind Gibson producing s..t for an ultra limited release? Of course not!
But I would be curious of Mark having a try on one randomly picked from the cheaper release.
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Ok, Mark is doing advertisement for very high (over?)priced guitar, this is business and he is part of it.
When you reflect about him saying they are great, well how could it be else?
These are selected instruments. So could you mind Gibson producing s..t for an ultra limited release? Of course not!
But I would be curious of Mark having a try on one randomly picked from the cheaper release.
It's not dramatically overpriced over "cheap" "regular" "mundane" 1958 Historic Custom VOS LP:
https://www.thomann.de/gb/gibson_std_historic_lp_58_it_vos_2.htm
As you can see, it's about 1,000€ difference for it being MK version, also add 1,000€ for aged version and 1,000€ for signed.
Seems like people are crazy, but the most crazy thing is that ALL THE GUITARS FROM WILDWOOD ARE SOLD OUT already.
What can I say? Mark have some wealthy fans! And of course, there's no dramatic difference in these guitars at all.
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Page of a signed guitar on the Gibson's website, including the price ($10,999 MSPR):
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/Custom/Mark-Knopfler-1958-Les-Paul-Standard-Aged-Signed.aspx
And the page for a "poverty edition" MK Les Paul ($5,099 MSPR):
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/Custom/Mark-Knopfler-1958-Les-Paul-Standard-VOS-Finish.aspx
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Gibson is not in the market for low budget guitars. If your are aiming to replicate Marks LP 58 which is truely a stradivarius guitar - you better do it right. Judging from the video they did just that. It truely sounds amazing and Mark seems genuinely excited about them.
Im sure he will use these on stage instead of keep bringing the insanely valuable 1958 on tour.
Way to go Gibson and MK.
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IMO this is the most exciting thing Gibson has done in so many years (and I'm a big fan of Gibson and owner of a 57 LP and a 58 reissue). I really think they did a good job on these (based on looks of course, I haven't and probably won't be able to try one) and I think Mark's reaction is genuine :) .
One thought: why do you guys think Mark agreed to this. I can't imagine the money he gets from it is needed for a man of his wealth. I guess it is just an exciting thing for him as a guitarist?
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IMO this is the most exciting thing Gibson has done in so many years (and I'm a big fan of Gibson and owner of a 57 LP and a 58 reissue). I really think they did a good job on these (based on looks of course, I haven't and probably won't be able to try one) and I think Mark's reaction is genuine :) .
One thought: why do you guys think Mark agreed to this. I can't imagine the money he gets from it is needed for a man of his wealth. I guess it is just an exciting thing for him as a guitarist?
If you accept to do advertisement then you play the game.
Just that Mark limits advertisement to a selected area. He accept to play Gibson representative role but refuse to be involved with Coca Cola sort of companies.
Add as as already wrote that those guitars are selected products.
But "aged" reissue is a bit of non sense for me. If you are a guitarist what matter you is how good the instrument sounds.
Aged and signed stuff is primary good for fans and collector market.
As a teenager I dreamed to get an EC signature strat. Now I assume that it was just a teenager dream and that it would not make me a better guitarist.
That said, as already written, the high valued MK reissue are 50 selected guitars and it would be a shame not to be up the the standards it is aimed to be.
I wonder if the VOS ones have been selected with same care...
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I really don't know what would come next from Mark. First he released his "first double album" which would be so much better without all this blues, then he "fired" Chuck Ainlay, then he played "Broken Bones" as an opener. Okay... what's next? Here, take my new $11,000 guitar. Seriously, Mark? I know it's great for you, but for you only I'm afraid.
I'm perfectly positive and in a good mood, I just can't understand some moves by our hero, and there's more and more strange moves. I'm hoping for a good new album. Seems like Mark has aimed himself to please himself more than ever before, and we fans might as well just shut up.
Of course, there was ridiculous Martin MK Signature acoustic guitars, but I can get when an acoustic guitar, especially Martin, worth $7,000. But Les Paul? Oh, please. It was a regular production guitar back in 1958, and retailed for $375 which is roughly $3,000 in today's money. Just like a Standard Les Paul. Thanks, I'll get this one instead.
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With all of this being said, I know these guitars are meant to be expensive, but when I look at this:
(https://pp.vk.me/c626128/v626128999/43968/4E_E3kUPzo4.jpg)
I think to myself, what about a book of your lyrics in a leather cover with your signature, Mark? What about something like this in a limited deluxe box?
"You've got to please yourself", — Mark Knopfler
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$11.000...
Hey Rudy, I'll take two!
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I really don't know what would come next from Mark. First he released his "first double album" which would be so much better without all this blues, then he "fired" Chuck Ainlay, then he played "Broken Bones" as an opener. Okay... what's next? Here, take my new $11,000 guitar. Seriously, Mark? I know it's great for you, but for you only I'm afraid.
I'm perfectly positive and in a good mood, I just can't understand some moves by our hero, and there's more and more strange moves. I'm hoping for a good new album. Seems like Mark has aimed himself to please himself more than ever before, and we fans might as well just shut up.
Of course, there was ridiculous Martin MK Signature acoustic guitars, but I can get when an acoustic guitar, especially Martin, worth $7,000. But Les Paul? Oh, please. It was a regular production guitar back in 1958, and retailed for $375 which is roughly $3,000 in today's money. Just like a Standard Les Paul. Thanks, I'll get this one instead.
For the Gibson MK signature run I think this is a deal that came from Gibson.
Right, Mark could have refused.
But nobody force us to buy, just that it hurts in some way our own values, not being able to afford one may make us feel like second class citizen and provide a frustration feel.
Mark is a business man, he run a studio and an art gallery and collects higly valuable cars.
There are things he accept to do and others he doesn't.
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I never heard of Mark running an Art Gallery? :hmm
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I never heard of Mark running an Art Gallery? :hmm
LE
I though he does have some invests in one a couple of years ago. Can't retrieve where I read that.
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We talked about it when it was mentioned in the news I think two tears ago, that MK had bought an art gallery, it was even mentioned which one and where it was...
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We talked about it when it was mentioned in the news I think two tears ago, that MK had bought an art gallery, it was even mentioned which one and where it was...
I also remember that, but already forgotten all the details. He can exhibit all of his signature guitars there with the exception of a Strat.
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http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=2797.msg60688#msg60688
http://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/building-up-celebrity-money-8300797.html
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We talked about it when it was mentioned in the news I think two tears ago, that MK had bought an art gallery, it was even mentioned which one and where it was...
Nice typo ;-)
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We talked about it when it was mentioned in the news I think two tears ago, that MK had bought an art gallery, it was even mentioned which one and where it was...
Nice typo ;-)
Fat fingers, small phone
LOL
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https://worldguitars.co.uk/shop/gibson-custom-shop-standard-historic-1958-mark-knopfler-les-paul-053/
Here's a good (and relatively cheap) one. As I said — the best version out there. Forget about aged & signed one, this is the real deal right there.
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Lovely guitar, still too expensive for me unfortunately
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It's only me or he does look kind of baffled here? Like — am I playing my own LP in my own studio? Pinch me!
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https://worldguitars.co.uk/shop/gibson-custom-shop-standard-historic-1958-mark-knopfler-les-paul-053/
Here's a good (and relatively cheap) one. As I said — the best version out there. Forget about aged & signed one, this is the real deal right there.
OMG this guitar was up for sale less for a day, and it's reserved already. I wonder if this is the fastest selling Artist Series Gibson guitar or not?
Because the ones of other artists can be in stock literally for years.
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https://worldguitars.co.uk/shop/gibson-custom-shop-standard-historic-1958-mark-knopfler-les-paul-053/
Here's a good (and relatively cheap) one. As I said — the best version out there. Forget about aged & signed one, this is the real deal right there.
OMG this guitar was up for sale less for a day, and it's reserved already. I wonder if this is the fastest selling Artist Series Gibson guitar or not?
Because the ones of other artists can be in stock literally for years.
Yep, struggling to get one myself. World guitars, GuitarGuitar and Andertons all sold out.
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https://worldguitars.co.uk/shop/gibson-custom-shop-standard-historic-1958-mark-knopfler-les-paul-053/
Here's a good (and relatively cheap) one. As I said — the best version out there. Forget about aged & signed one, this is the real deal right there.
OMG this guitar was up for sale less for a day, and it's reserved already. I wonder if this is the fastest selling Artist Series Gibson guitar or not?
Because the ones of other artists can be in stock literally for years.
Yep, struggling to get one myself. World guitars, GuitarGuitar and Andertons all sold out.
This is ridiculous. Clearly 250 guitars wasn't enough for people, they must either reissue the whole series or do a Standard MK Les Paul like they did with Gary Moore.
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This is ridiculous. Clearly 250 guitars wasn't enough for people, they must either reissue the whole series or do a Standard MK Les Paul like they did with Gary Moore.
If they reissue it, I will never buy a Gibson product again as long as I live. I purchased these, in part, as an investment, and reissuing them would drastically decrease the value. I am hoping they go up in value, not down. It wasn't entirely painless for me to spring on one of these guitars, let alone two........
As far as demand, I have had more than one shop tell me they have never in the history of their business see guitars fly off the shelf this fast (actually, it is well before they are on a shelf).
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This is ridiculous. Clearly 250 guitars wasn't enough for people, they must either reissue the whole series or do a Standard MK Les Paul like they did with Gary Moore.
If they reissue it, I will never buy a Gibson product again as long as I live. I purchased these, in part, as an investment, and reissuing them would drastically decrease the value. I am hoping they go up in value, not down. It wasn't entirely painless for me to spring on one of these guitars, let alone two........
As far as demand, I have had more than one shop tell me they have never in the history of their business see guitars fly off the shelf this fast (actually, it is well before they are on a shelf).
It's highly unlikely they'd reissue the Custom Shop edition, since it's hand built guitars after all. But if they'd release a Les Paul Standard "Inspired by Mark Knopfler", that would be awesome especially for "poor" people and would not affect fancy Custom Shop instrument's value at all.
You may say it would not be "the real deal" in this case. But hey, even Custom Shop isn't the real deal, I think there are not many classic Les Pauls in their line and "Mark Knopfler inspired" one would perfectly fit. I imagine more like a plain top, less tigers on it, great wood, great electronics and it would be as good as Fender's MK Signature which is a magnificent guitar indeed.
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This is ridiculous. Clearly 250 guitars wasn't enough for people, they must either reissue the whole series or do a Standard MK Les Paul like they did with Gary Moore.
If they reissue it, I will never buy a Gibson product again as long as I live. I purchased these, in part, as an investment, and reissuing them would drastically decrease the value. I am hoping they go up in value, not down. It wasn't entirely painless for me to spring on one of these guitars, let alone two........
As far as demand, I have had more than one shop tell me they have never in the history of their business see guitars fly off the shelf this fast (actually, it is well before they are on a shelf).
Congrats on the find! How does it play?
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One more reason why Fender is far superior than Gibson. Not only their guitars have a better weight control, stays in tune better, have a whammy bar by default, they're utilitarian as it can get, no fancy fretboard binding which makes fretjob much harder and expensive etc, etc.
Even when it comes to signature instruments they got it right. It'd doesn't need to be a Custom Shop, master built thing, just put a good printed signature on it, make sure it's up to Artist's standards, use good woods and materials, pack it up with an affordable price and BOOM.
That's why there are only 250 MK Les Pauls and 10000+ MK Strats. Shame Gibson. I love the company and own two guitars by them but hate them at the same time.
I always use this comparsion — Gibson Les Pauls is like the most beautiful girl you've ever seen, but also the dumbest.
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Congrats on the find! How does it play?
Thanks! I have a VOS and a signed model. The signed model hasn't been delivered yet. I have only played the VOS for about 5 minutes. It plays like a young man's dreams!!! As it should. Actually, at the price point, it should play itself lol. I am sure I will part with one of the two at some point, and until I decide which one, they will remain in their cases in a climate controlled room.
If anyone happens to see any magazine articles about this release (which will be published long after they are all gone) please let the forum know. I know many people will looking to snag a few copies.
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Fantastic. I'm hoping a VOS edition will pop up somewhere. I was going to move on #53 on my break at work today and seen it was reserved.
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*** AGED & SIGNED ON eBAY ALERT ***
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*** AGED & SIGNED ON eBAY ALERT ***
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Gibson-Custom-MARK-KNOPFLER-1958-True-Historic-LES-PAUL-Aged-Signed-/332041106854?hash=item4d4f3135a6:g:vWoAAOSwXeJYNNBJ
Oh my goddess it's sold already for $9,999. This world can amaze me every day. Guitar was up for sale for about couple of hours.
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Why are you so surprised? Mark Knopfler is a guitar playing, songwriting legend. I can't think of anyone else who can write music and lyrics, and play guitar, and produce to as high a stand as Mark. There are a lot of good songwriters, but to combine that with his guitar ability? Even Clapton can't do that, he has written as many songs on his as Mark. Dylan is a great songwriter, but can not compete with Mark as a player.
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Why are you so surprised? Mark Knopfler is a guitar playing, songwriting legend. I can't think of anyone else who can write music and lyrics, and play guitar, and produce to as high a stand as Mark. There are a lot of good songwriters, but to combine that with his guitar ability? Even Clapton can't do that, he has written as many songs on his as Mark. Dylan is a great songwriter, but can not compete with Mark as a player.
Exactly! He's the complete musician. :)
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Why are you so surprised? Mark Knopfler is a guitar playing, songwriting legend. I can't think of anyone else who can write music and lyrics, and play guitar, and produce to as high a stand as Mark. There are a lot of good songwriters, but to combine that with his guitar ability? Even Clapton can't do that, he has written as many songs on his as Mark. Dylan is a great songwriter, but can not compete with Mark as a player.
I'm surprised because it was a $10k purchase done just in a couple of hours, you know? And it's a brand new guitar. And the whole issue are being sold like that, you can't blink your eye by the time these guitars get sold. Even MK Strat can last longer, but what we have here is a kind of hysteria.
But as far as I can see, many people buy these merely as an investment, which is sad.
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Why are you so surprised? Mark Knopfler is a guitar playing, songwriting legend. I can't think of anyone else who can write music and lyrics, and play guitar, and produce to as high a stand as Mark. There are a lot of good songwriters, but to combine that with his guitar ability? Even Clapton can't do that, he has written as many songs on his as Mark. Dylan is a great songwriter, but can not compete with Mark as a player.
I'm surprised because it was a $10k purchase done just in a couple of hours, you know? And it's a brand new guitar. And the whole issue are being sold like that, you can't blink your eye by the time these guitars get sold. Even MK Strat can last longer, but what we have here is a kind of hysteria.
But as far as I can see, many people buy these merely as an investment, which is sad.
I agree with you quizzy. These guitars are meant to be played, not kept in a cupboard until the price rises. I find it sad too. :-\
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I also agree, they should be bought to be played. But no matter what the product and what the price is, there will always be someone around with enough money to buy it.
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Wow i heisitated a little on this purchase not expecting the demand to be anywhere near this... Big mistake lol. I'm sure its a longshot but if anyone has a line on an Aged and Signed still available, please PM me. As someone who plays their instruments daily, Im quite disappointed at the prospect of not being able to find one.
Thanks guys, appreciate it!
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One more reason why Fender is far superior than Gibson. Not only their guitars have a better weight control, stays in tune better, have a whammy bar by default, they're utilitarian as it can get, no fancy fretboard binding which makes fretjob much harder and expensive etc, etc.
Come on man... I say this as an owner of both a Custom Shop Strat 57 and two Gibson LP's (a Custom Shop 58 and a vintage 57 Jr). If a Gibson can't stay in tune, it's not setup well or the method of tuning is wrong. A whammy bar as a default isn't always superior. It's a taste thing. Have you ever played a guitar with only a wrap around bridge (like a Jr or special for instance)? There are plenty of Gibsons without bindings and maple tops. One could also argue that an expensive Fender is more money for less work than an expensive Gibson. Did you see what the CS Blackie signature strats went for?
BTW, I'm not trying to attack you or anything ;) . And I'm not a fanboy of one or the other, I love both brands as much and at the same time I see so many of their faults. I'd say they're just as bad... (and still we accept them ;D )
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One more reason why Fender is far superior than Gibson. Not only their guitars have a better weight control, stays in tune better, have a whammy bar by default, they're utilitarian as it can get, no fancy fretboard binding which makes fretjob much harder and expensive etc, etc.
Come on man... I say this as an owner of both a Custom Shop Strat 57 and two Gibson LP's (a Custom Shop 58 and a vintage 57 Jr). If a Gibson can't stay in tune, it's not setup well or the method of tuning is wrong. A whammy bar as a default isn't always superior. It's a taste thing. Have you ever played a guitar with only a wrap around bridge (like a Jr or special for instance)? There are plenty of Gibsons without bindings and maple tops. One could also argue that an expensive Fender is more money for less work than an expensive Gibson. Did you see what the CS Blackie signature strats went for?
BTW, I'm not trying to attack you or anything ;) . And I'm not a fanboy of one or the other, I love both brands as much and at the same time I see so many of their faults. I'd say they're just as bad... (and still we accept them ;D )
Very good and polite point! I had the LP Traditional and a Studio models and they both was pain in the neck to tune. But hey, even Joe Bonamassa have to lubricate his LP's nuts just in order for it to stay in tune, this issue is common. You kind of need to have a roadie with you all the time to fix the damn thing :lol
I love Gibsons, I love their headstock design, but in other hand you need to pay for the beauty and I mean pay with tuning issues. Funny like there's no such thing as a perfect guitar. PRS managed to combine stability of a Strat with a sound of LP, but they would not sell to me their design in this lifetime...
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One more reason why Fender is far superior than Gibson. Not only their guitars have a better weight control, stays in tune better, have a whammy bar by default, they're utilitarian as it can get, no fancy fretboard binding which makes fretjob much harder and expensive etc, etc.
Come on man... I say this as an owner of both a Custom Shop Strat 57 and two Gibson LP's (a Custom Shop 58 and a vintage 57 Jr). If a Gibson can't stay in tune, it's not setup well or the method of tuning is wrong. A whammy bar as a default isn't always superior. It's a taste thing. Have you ever played a guitar with only a wrap around bridge (like a Jr or special for instance)? There are plenty of Gibsons without bindings and maple tops. One could also argue that an expensive Fender is more money for less work than an expensive Gibson. Did you see what the CS Blackie signature strats went for?
BTW, I'm not trying to attack you or anything ;) . And I'm not a fanboy of one or the other, I love both brands as much and at the same time I see so many of their faults. I'd say they're just as bad... (and still we accept them ;D )
Very good and polite point! I had the LP Traditional and a Studio models and they both was pain in the neck to tune. But hey, even Joe Bonamassa have to lubricate his LP's nuts just in order for it to stay in tune, this issue is common. You kind of need to have a roadie with you all the time to fix the damn thing :lol
I love Gibsons, I love their headstock design, but in other hand you need to pay for the beauty and I mean pay with tuning issues. Funny like there's no such thing as a perfect guitar. PRS managed to combine stability of a Strat with a sound of LP, but they would not sell to me their design in this lifetime...
Oh yeah, I totally get what you mean! PRS and other similar designs should in theory be perfect, but I can't bond with them for some reason. I'm sure that the brand and the looking at pictures of your heroes when you're a kid has such an impact on you that you're willing to put up with all the shenanigans Gibson and Fender (especially Gibson these last years...) are up to :lol .
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But as far as I can see, many people buy these merely as an investment, which is sad.
But with so limited run, Gibson is feeding the collector market...
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But as far as I can see, many people buy these merely as an investment, which is sad.
I agree with you quizzy. These guitars are meant to be played, not kept in a cupboard until the price rises. I find it sad too. :-\
Couldn't agree more. It's the way of the world seemingly these days that people are money obsessed. :(
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Would love to be able to afford one (theoretically). Everybody should be entitled to do what he wants with his "mountains of dough". Better Gibson guitars than weapons or drugs I say! :wave
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VOS #71 from Germany for €5,899:
https://www.musikhaus-hermann.de/gibson-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-standard-vos-41833/
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VOS in Spanish means "original version with subtitles" obviously related to movies ;D
No idea of what it means when it comes to guitars...
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Vintage old stock (valves) vintage original spec (guitars)- the idea is they make a guitar to look and feel as though someone bought it in 1958, never played it and put it under the bed and someone just discovered it today... so it has all the old specs and looks a 'little' aged but no dings and fake scratches that there seems to be a real market for these days. Interestingly VOS valves (tubes) have a market place too, because according to many, they don't even make the valves like they used too... :)
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VOS in Spanish means "original version with subtitles" obviously related to movies ;D
No idea of what it means when it comes to guitars...
I'd explain but it's going to be boring even for musicians... think of it as an euphemism for VIP :lol
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Well, Fletch explained and illustrated it perfectly well! Thanks Fletch!
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My pleasure! Its all personal taste of course - I don't give a hoot about debating the merits of MK marketing a fancy Gibson, but having played a few VOS Strats, and some Custom Shop Strats (an Eric Johnson one springs to mind), they can feel amazing, and if i had endless money i probably would want one. However I covet nothing more than my trusty Highway One 2008 model i go back to again and again, for every live thing i have to do :) I got lucky !!
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*** AGED LP eBAY ALERT ***
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Wouldn't buy it; think the cat's just pissed on it! :o
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Wouldn't buy it; think the cat's just pissed on it! :o
LOL! Seems like you're not the only one who thinks like this, the guitar is up for sale for about 2 hours now... world record right there.
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Two guitars, VOS and AGED still up for sale. The hype is over? LOL :lol
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Vintage old stock (valves)
Do you mean "NOS" (new old stock)? I've never heard valves being categorized as VOS before, that's why I ask :)
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Yes, I think you're right. I think I got my acronyms confused - yes, never used old valves and brand new (but i look really old) guitars :)
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Aged #007 for sale:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Gibson-Custom-MARK-KNOPFLER-1958-LES-PAUL-Aged-S-N-007-/232158409727?hash=item360db833ff:g:r~gAAOSwj85YPP2-
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Aged #007 for sale:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Gibson-Custom-MARK-KNOPFLER-1958-LES-PAUL-Aged-S-N-007-/232158409727?hash=item360db833ff:g:r~gAAOSwj85YPP2-
Shouldn't that be agent, not aged? In any case 007 is a great number to have. ;D
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Aged #007 for sale:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Gibson-Custom-MARK-KNOPFLER-1958-LES-PAUL-Aged-S-N-007-/232158409727?hash=item360db833ff:g:r~gAAOSwj85YPP2-
Shouldn't that be agent, not aged? In any case serial no. 007 is a great number to have. ;D
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The hand-signed ones are lovely but unfortunately beyond my financial abilities, plus not available anymore :(
Only these are all hot hide glue which possibly makes a difference in tone (hide glue is lovely stuff, gets hard as glass, not chemical, can be dissolved easily again at any time, the glue used on Stradivaris, on furniture found in the Cheops pyramid, and on Gibsons before 1965).
And only these have the neck profile of Mark's 58.
Also it seems the pickups are not modelled after Mark's but are the general model Gibson uses for the 58-59 replicas (the old pickups varied, e.g. with the Alnico alloy used for the magnets and such). At least on the VOS and aged, not sure for the hand-signed ones.
All have the wrong fingerboard wood as the right one is not allowed anymore.
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And only these have the neck profile of Mark's 58.
How do you know this? Gibson's description for the "standard" model includes this: "Neck Profile: Vintage replica artist's neck profile" (http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/Custom/Mark-Knopfler-1958-Les-Paul-Standard-VOS-Finish.aspx)
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Oh sorry then, my mistake. I got it from the Gibson website, thought I read replica of Mark's profile for the signed, and something like '1958 Les Paul profile' for the other version. Just checked again, they mention the neck profile here and there, a bit confusing. They even say '1959 Les Paul' for the VOS, but this is rather a typo I guess.
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VOS #20 on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Les-Paul-Standard-1958-Mark-Knopfler-VOS-Serial-020-Custom-Shop-/282277297998?hash=item41b909bf4e:g:RiMAAOSwEzxYQVkW
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So, this is now an eBay thread part two?
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So, this is now an eBay thread part two?
Mmmm, I took my magnifying glass, and it turned out the topic's name is "Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul". And I posted Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul here. Is there a problem? :lol
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Add "alerts" to the title and everything would be accurate ;D
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Hey guys! Just picked up my Aged and Signed and VOS models, and had a question for the other proud owners on this forum. Does anyone know what the purpose of the wire is that is wound around the bridge screws on the Low E and High E strings? From the looks of it, I cant imagine it serving any purpose really and from the bit of research ive done, it is only these MK 1958 model Les Pauls that have the wire. Other Gibson Custom Shop instruments dont seem to have it AFAIK.
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Hey guys! Just picked up my Aged and Signed and VOS models, and had a question for the other proud owners on this forum. Does anyone know what the purpose of the wire is that is wound around the bridge screws on the Low E and High E strings? From the looks of it, I cant imagine it serving any purpose really and from the bit of research ive done, it is only these MK 1958 model Les Pauls that have the wire. Other Gibson Custom Shop instruments dont seem to have it AFAIK.
It's the retaining wire on the ABR-1 tune-o-matic bridges. It's supposed to lock the saddles in.
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VOS #20 on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Les-Paul-Standard-1958-Mark-Knopfler-VOS-Serial-020-Custom-Shop-/282277297998?hash=item41b909bf4e:g:RiMAAOSwEzxYQVkW
Sold!
(but not to me)
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VOS model for sale:
http://www.ebay.at/itm/152339693241?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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You know what? I don't like the color. I like them red like the one used in '85.
(http://ekladata.com/1Xrwr8tNegJ_ZGOnrRMkOjRl_YY@500x334.jpg)
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When it was new it looked liked this but the red faded.
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I agree a deep red sunburst is beautiful. But I gotta say, the finishes on these guitars are the best I've seen from Gibson in a long time (judging just by photos, that is...).
Switaki, like Cosmin said the wire is there to prevent the saddles from falling out when a string breaks. I don't think the current historics have them, but my 2007 R8 has one.
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Yet, another one (aged):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Gibson-Custom-Shop-Mark-Knopfler-1958-Les-Paul-Standard-Aged-2016-Guitar-/172432191220?hash=item2825c26ef4:g:jMwAAOSwnHZYQ-1T
and VOS #20
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Les-Paul-Standard-1958-Mark-Knopfler-VOS-Serial-020-Custom-Shop-3-7kg-/282286809582?hash=item41b99ae1ee:g:RiMAAOSwEzxYQVkW
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What is this "Knopfler burst" finish like if anybody knows? Does it look like a "honeyburst" finish because that's the closest thing you can get on stock guitars judging by the pictures alone. At least to my eyes.
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What is this "Knopfler burst" finish like if anybody knows? Does it look like a "honeyburst" finish because that's the closest thing you can get on stock guitars judging by the pictures alone. At least to my eyes.
Yes, it also seems to me that honeyburst is the closest "standard" burst.
By the way, any of you considering buying one of these from a vendor overseas should make sure that they have the proper export permit as all rosewood species are protected by CITES since the beginning of 2017. Some of the guitar parts vendors have temporarily stopped exporting anything that has any rosewood in it
https://reverb.com/news/new-cites-regulations-for-all-rosewood-species
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https://www.twotone.com.br/guitarras/item/gibson-custom-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos
Gibson Custom Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul VOS
Serial: 001 :o :o :o
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https://www.twotone.com.br/guitarras/item/gibson-custom-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos
Gibson Custom Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul VOS
Serial: 001 :o :o :o
That's a brazilian add. I'm surprised someone from here got one of those. Probably someone who lives overseas and wants to triple the investment. It's literally the price of a car for us.
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https://www.twotone.com.br/guitarras/item/gibson-custom-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos
Gibson Custom Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul VOS
Serial: 001 :o :o :o
That's a brazilian add. I'm surprised someone from here got one of those. Probably someone who lives overseas and wants to triple the investment. It's literally the price of a car for us.
It's true for all parts of the world, even for The United Arab Emirates :lol
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https://www.twotone.com.br/guitarras/item/gibson-custom-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-vos
Gibson Custom Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul VOS
Serial: 001 :o :o :o
That's a brazilian add. I'm surprised someone from here got one of those. Probably someone who lives overseas and wants to triple the investment. It's literally the price of a car for us.
It's true for all parts of the world, even for The United Arab Emirates :lol
I guess so... but the type of the car will depend on how strong your currency is plus local taxes lol tricky calculation!
I'll ask the seller how much he wants for the 'car' and once he reponds I will let you all know.
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Just got a response, 45.000 reais... don't know the current rates but I'd say maybe 15.000 euros...?
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Just got a response, 45.000 reais... don't know the current rates but I'd say maybe 15.000 euros...?
At least an "ordinary" human being, if you can call it that, can buy a 001 guitar. I thought all the "VIP" numbered guitars are already gone to VIPs.
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https://www.ebay.es/itm/Gibson-Les-Paul-Mark-Knopfler-Aged/192382842217?hash=item2ccae93569:g:zisAAOSw9idaIQjQ
Could somebody please explain why people are constantly covering serial numbers of guitars? What I can possibly gain from knowing this number?
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Here's a discussion on the subject:
https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?162682-Why-hide-the-serial-number
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Aged #55 for sale in one of the greatest guitar shops of Europe: https://www.tfoa.eu/en/gibson-les-paul-mark-knopfler-1958-aged-055.html
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Aged #55 for sale in one of the greatest guitar shops of Europe: https://www.tfoa.eu/en/gibson-les-paul-mark-knopfler-1958-aged-055.html
Can I have it painted in lime green? If not, I'm not interested.
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Aged #55 for sale in one of the greatest guitar shops of Europe: https://www.tfoa.eu/en/gibson-les-paul-mark-knopfler-1958-aged-055.html
Can I have it painted in lime green? If not, I'm not interested.
Of course. Free of charge.
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They had one for about 6500 EUR more than a year ago and that one never had to be listed. Was gone in a couple of days. At this price point I suppose they had to list this one.
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They had one for about 6500 EUR more than a year ago and that one never had to be listed. Was gone in a couple of days. At this price point I suppose they had to list this one.
6500 ? surely it was only the VOS one, not the aged
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Aged. I would have preferred VOS but in any case by the time I saw the email I was already too late. That's about the speed it was sold.
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aged at half price ? mmm
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aged at half price ? mmm
I’d say aged with just 200% markup from the regular True Historic LP instead of 400%.
Just kidding :D
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It's a lot of money, but considering it is a limited number of guitars made, it's a replica (even more attention to detail than usual), and the many hours of manual labor at US wages, the price is not unreasonable.
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If I had money enough, I would buy the MK Fender and Gibson just as decorative things for home, as I don't play guitar... probably also a National resonator
As I don't have so much money for decorative items of such a price, that just a wild dream LOL
That's why I bought this :lol :lol :lol:
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aged at half price ? mmm
Perhaps you're confusing "aged" with "aged and signed"? The signed version was about 10k (or just under, don't remember) list price and "just aged" was about 6k.
I missed a VOS version at Peach guitars when they got another one (shortly after they were released by Gibson). It went before I could answer that email and I would have bought it - it was about 4500 GBP from memory. Then an "aged" one popped up at The fellowship but I was not really after "aged" and it was also more expensive. It didn't matter anyway :smack
I think I'm priced out of the market now anyway. Not that I need one of those to sound good anyway. It wouldn't help one bit ;D
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Anyone got a signed or a VOS MK LP? I'd be intrigued to know what fret size is used. Mark's had his original 58 refretted with fatter 6100 gauge frets. Just wondering if Gibson have followed his lead or have stuck with the standard skinny 58 frets??
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https://reverb.com/item/31540071-gibson-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged-2016
Great news for people who's got $20K of spare cash.
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https://reverb.com/item/31540071-gibson-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged-2016
Great news for people who's got $20K of spare cash.
That is NOT the definitive price - it is advertised as you can make offer.
Anyway this was a "collectible" from start, not a guitar to be played, just bull...
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https://reverb.com/item/31540071-gibson-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged-2016
Great news for people who's got $20K of spare cash.
That is NOT the definitive price - it is advertised as you can make offer.
Anyway this was a "collectible" from start, not a guitar to be played, just bull...
Exactly, my bad. But it's beaten up already, I guess you can play the aged one without worrying so much :lol
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https://reverb.com/item/31540071-gibson-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged-2016
Great news for people who's got $20K of spare cash.
For today’s price I can buy a Toyota Corolla here in Brazil. I’d never pay that much for a guitar, even if I were Bill Gates...
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https://reverb.com/item/31540071-gibson-mark-knopfler-1958-les-paul-aged-2016
Great news for people who's got $20K of spare cash.
For today’s price I can buy a Toyota Corolla here in Brazil. I’d never pay that much for a guitar, even if I were Bill Gates...
Exactly, because it's an instrument. Even for Mark, he owns this original million dollar 1958 Les Paul, but he still makes 10 times more by using it as an actual instrument.
I'd buy it, but only if I knew I can make at least 100 grand out of it. The funniest thing you can buy a brand new 1958 Historic Custom Shop Les Paul for 1/5 of the price.
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https://reverb.com/fr/item/13603777-gibson-custom-shop-58-les-paul-standard-mark-knopfler-aged-097-100-2016-aged-cherry-burst-2016-age
For sale Gibson Custom Shop ’58 Les Paul Standard Mark Knopfler Aged #097/100 2016 Aged Cherry Burst 2016
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Maybe one day mark will write a song about producing brand new guitars with scratches.
Or maybe I will write one before him.
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Maybe one day mark will write a song about producing brand new guitars with scratches.
Or maybe I will write one before him.
Reminds me of this great video :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUuMzxJ9h8
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Reminds me of this great video :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUuMzxJ9h8
O-M-G.
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Reminds me of this great video :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUuMzxJ9h8
O-M-G.
That was actually rather interesting to watch. I have a child's fascination when it comes to stuff like that. I still see it as some sort of magic. I really liked to see it getting back to shape but I could have done without the aging. He did that quite well too. I just don't see the point at all.
Anyway, I read this entire thread today and found myself torn between finding those MK Les Pauls really interesting and then finding it all to be way too much about collecting, the idea of an investment and the like. It reminded me of a comparison between a very cheap Les Paul style guitar and an original 1952 Les Paul. I have always found that it helped balance things out quite a bit when I tend to forget the basics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_oli0vRC64
If you feel I am going of topic, please say so and I will remove it.
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https://reverb.com/fr/item/13603777-gibson-custom-shop-58-les-paul-standard-mark-knopfler-aged-097-100-2016-aged-cherry-burst-2016-age
For sale Gibson Custom Shop ’58 Les Paul Standard Mark Knopfler Aged #097/100 2016 Aged Cherry Burst 2016
Obviously a very nice guitar but too much flame to look like MK’s.
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Reminds me of this great video :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUuMzxJ9h8
O-M-G.
That was actually rather interesting to watch. I have a child's fascination when it comes to stuff like that. I still see it as some sort of magic. I really liked to see it getting back to shape but I could have done without the aging. He did that quite well too. I just don't see the point at all.
Anyway, I read this entire thread today and found myself torn between finding those MK Les Pauls really interesting and then finding it all to be way too much about collecting, the idea of an investment and the like. It reminded me of a comparison between a very cheap Les Paul style guitar and an original 1952 Les Paul. I have always found that it helped balance things out quite a bit when I tend to forget the basics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_oli0vRC64
If you feel I am going of topic, please say so and I will remove it.
This topic is practically dead anyway, because who wanted this guitar already purchased it and it will never be played or sold or looked on or touched again in 100 years to preserve the value :lol
I'm not a fan of relicing either, it's sort of resembles me buying a signature of a celebrity off of somebody, it's like — what's the point? The point of a signature is for you to remember the meeting, the story around it, your personal story. If anything, I would rather buy a stock VOS 1958 Les Paul to beat it up myself. No pointless signatures or some guy beating up a perfectly new guitar for no reason.
The previous owner of my 1997 Gibson Advanced Jumbo had a huge lacquer crack on the back of the headstock, because his kid has dropped the guitar once. The crack was only sealed with some shellac and never been truly repaired, so it's just sitting there and looking lake damage with almost bare wood showing. But it's cool to know the story of it.
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Real relicing is the real deal no matter if it is from the previous owner. It is still a part of the real history of the instrument. I like that.
I recently saw an SG from 1965 and got interested until I figured that I was going to pay a lot because it is old and it would lose a lot of value as soon as I had put a pickup in the neck and done whatever I thought it would need. So I decided that if I am going to buy one, I am going to buy a new one.
By the way I have seen some of your youtube videos in which you teach how to play Knopfler's stuff. They are very good. I have my problems playing his stuff but I can't blame the videos for that :)
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Real relicing is the real deal no matter if it is from the previous owner. It is still a part of the real history of the instrument. I like that.
I recently saw an SG from 1965 and got interested until I figured that I was going to pay a lot because it is old and it would lose a lot of value as soon as I had put a pickup in the neck and done whatever I thought it would need. So I decided that if I am going to buy one, I am going to buy a new one.
By the way I have seen some of your youtube videos in which you teach how to play Knopfler's stuff. They are very good. I have my problems playing his stuff but I can't blame the videos for that :)
Yeah, just like with a classic car which you want to actually drive, it will lose value, but the car is supposed to... be driven? Not everybody think so :lol
Thanks, yes, I play some MK things, believe me, this man's playing perplexes me every time I sit around to learn his stuff... The guy is a genius no doubt.
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So the one on eBay now for 3500 dollars. Is it a good buy at that price? Investment? Tad expensive to learn to play on mind.
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So the one on eBay now for 3500 dollars. Is it a good buy at that price? Investment? Tad expensive to learn to play on mind.
It will sell for a lot more than that.
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What’s its true price then?
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It’s worth whatever someone will pay for it... at a guess I’ll say it will probably go for at least double that. Let’s see!
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Hi,
The one on ebay isn't from the official run. Different color as well as serial#
Might be good custom shop guitar, but they "just" reliced it "same" as MK aged features.
A bit misleading, especially for fans who aren't familiar with Gibson.
This is the link
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Gibson-Custom-Shop-1958-Les-Paul-Reissue-Aged-Mark-Knopfler-NO-RESERVE/233652158696?hash=item3666c100e8:g:BxkAAOSwQFBfEN31
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Yes all a bit confusing.
Gorgeous guitar.
Potentially worth a punt, but surprised there is so little interest in it.
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$3750 as a final price. Only two bidders. Either someone has got a bargain or not!
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That's not a real MK Les Paul, is it?
Still looks like a fine instrument, and if it's made with the same specs as the MK model, then the price seems good.
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Ooh, sneaky!
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Indeed.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/165974359514?hash=item26a4d7bdda:g:JY8AAOSwRa1kCbJ-&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwORVlMeNfD5JubIq1hQLqhjpZZNC48HZ1P6cHqJnaTnwQXf%2FC4r%2BLhxbwNHznIstFMders%2Bt3Gf7C55V%2BFrqPfP%2BYkyVJyrX%2FTYNjwPtoDyww0xcnu3%2B%2BqoBUBhKnEEi9kiAy8N0JO%2BPYzWdtjG0Zczv4mC6xRoGUyZ6xrJP%2Fgb61%2FsvRgW%2Bloq10fjDADeF8UAAZdkr4N3vmebwKgUKShKyffGftK4%2Bmv9LHgM%2B1sZJvgAy%2FH488dwa7QNsQnNkLw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-DUmtjZYQ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/165974359514?hash=item26a4d7bdda:g:JY8AAOSwRa1kCbJ-&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwORVlMeNfD5JubIq1hQLqhjpZZNC48HZ1P6cHqJnaTnwQXf%2FC4r%2BLhxbwNHznIstFMders%2Bt3Gf7C55V%2BFrqPfP%2BYkyVJyrX%2FTYNjwPtoDyww0xcnu3%2B%2BqoBUBhKnEEi9kiAy8N0JO%2BPYzWdtjG0Zczv4mC6xRoGUyZ6xrJP%2Fgb61%2FsvRgW%2Bloq10fjDADeF8UAAZdkr4N3vmebwKgUKShKyffGftK4%2Bmv9LHgM%2B1sZJvgAy%2FH488dwa7QNsQnNkLw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-DUmtjZYQ)
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man, those prices are seriously getting way out of hand
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man, those prices are seriously getting way out of hand
Also interesting for me... How this kind of wood is acceptable in a custom shop handmade 1 out of 50 limited edition signed uber ultra mega rare guitars? It's all stripey and looks like has a snag in it. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA+ wood indeed.
(https://sweetspot-guitars.de/Chevereto/images/2023/03/09/2016-Gibson-Les-Paul-Mark-Knopfler-Aged-and-Signed-02.jpg)
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I don't see it as a music instrument to be played anymore but an object for collection.
The only interest is its $ value and to expose it on the wall.
I mean is it possible to buy from Gibson Custom Shop a new LP with the exact same spec minus the artificial ageing ?
And how much would it cost then?
I'd wish to be able to buy one of these 50, that would mean that I have become way healthier financially than I currently am ;D
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I have one of the MK signature Strats. In my head the Strat is a different "thing" to the Les Paul, because although they were based on his 60's Strat Mark used them a lot live and when recording, and so I feel I am playing the same guitar as he does and not a "copy".
I know he's been using the signature Les Paul for some songs on his more recent tours, but he was still using the "real" '58, and due to the nature of the Gibsons (faded sunburst finish and pattern and depth of flame on the top) I feel that the Les Pauls are more of a "close copy" which he has been using on a few songs for contractural reasons with Gibson. On that basis (and also the cost of course), I wasn't interested in getting one of the signature Les Pauls, particularly when I could get this for £2100.00
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dtvaviationimages/52414708791/in/album-72157627669196085/
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I have one of the MK signature Strats. In my head the Strat is a different "thing" to the Les Paul, because although they were based on his 60's Strat Mark used them a lot live and when recording, and so I feel I am playing the same guitar as he does and not a "copy".
I know he's been using the signature Les Paul for some songs on his more recent tours, but he was still using the "real" '58, and due to the nature of the Gibsons (faded sunburst finish and pattern and depth of flame on the top) I feel that the Les Pauls are more of a "close copy" which he has been using on a few songs for contractural reasons with Gibson. On that basis (and also the cost of course), I wasn't interested in getting one of the signature Les Pauls, particularly when I could get this for £2100.00
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dtvaviationimages/52414708791/in/album-72157627669196085/
I thought he had only the sig LP on tour in 2019, no more the original 58 which stood in the studio... did I miss something ? :think
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I almost got one when they came out from Peach Guitars but it was gone before I was able to answer that email! I think it was VOS and not aged and "reasonably priced" for a custom shop limited edition guitar.
I know you can have one that is not signature edition (Strat, Martin or Gibson) at any time and perhaps cheaper but those Strats were not really that much more expensive when new, if at all. I only passed because at that time I didn't like the colour all that much. Shame on me. And you can still have Clapton's Martin acoustic, and it's also more or less the same price as their non-signature guitar. How hard can it be to come to an agreement to keep making some kind of signature MK guitar, be it Strat, Martin or Gibson? Make a very limited collector's edition for all I care as well, nothing wrong with that, but why not something aspiring musicians can actually afford as well? If you're not going to make a MK signature guitar, who's are you going to make then? 50 cent's and van Buuren's? Come on?!
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I almost got one when they came out from Peach Guitars but it was gone before I was able to answer that email! I think it was VOS and not aged and "reasonably priced" for a custom shop limited edition guitar.
I know you can have one that is not signature edition (Strat, Martin or Gibson) at any time and perhaps cheaper but those Strats were not really that much more expensive when new, if at all. I only passed because at that time I didn't like the colour all that much. Shame on me. And you can still have Clapton's Martin acoustic, and it's also more or less the same price as their non-signature guitar. How hard can it be to come to an agreement to keep making some kind of signature MK guitar, be it Strat, Martin or Gibson? Make a very limited collector's edition for all I care as well, nothing wrong with that, but why not something aspiring musicians can actually afford as well? If you're not going to make a MK signature guitar, who's are you going to make then? 50 cent's and van Buuren's? Come on?!
Yes, I hope MK has a very solid reason to not continue with signature guitars. Should they have poor sales, I'd get it, but they're selling like crazy! No matter what the original asking price is, it will sell. And if it's almost affordable, like MK Strat was when it was available, it sells like nothing else. Even to this day.
Not sure about aspiring musicians though. I remember literally "smelling catalogues" with MK Sig Strat, digital catalogues that is. I could never ever afford such a guitar when I was a beginner or even an intermediate player, and now when I stopped being a beginner and get-a-life fan, I just don't need it anymore.
But should they reissue MK Sig, or better yet, made a more affordable version of it (say, Mexican-made), it would be awesome. After all, I think the appeal of signature instruments should be directed at aspiring musicians, young musicians, and not professionals who have their "signature" guitars anyway.
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When they came out MK said he would like to see a Mexican version, shame they never did it. OR even a Squier version.
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When they came out MK said he would like to see a Mexican version, shame they never did it. OR even a Squier version.
That would be fabulous. They even made a Mexican-made version of my main axe — a mini Strat with a 23" scale length, but it's so rare and expensive now that it makes no sense trying to hunt for it. Or it was Japanese-made, I'm not sure. But either way, affordable guitars are the best thing on the planet... So much joy without breaking the bank. It's easy to have a great guitar when you ask $1500−∞ for it. Try to do it for 800, 500, or even 200 bucks, and now we're talking!
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I have one of the MK signature Strats. In my head the Strat is a different "thing" to the Les Paul, because although they were based on his 60's Strat Mark used them a lot live and when recording, and so I feel I am playing the same guitar as he does and not a "copy".
I know he's been using the signature Les Paul for some songs on his more recent tours, but he was still using the "real" '58, and due to the nature of the Gibsons (faded sunburst finish and pattern and depth of flame on the top) I feel that the Les Pauls are more of a "close copy" which he has been using on a few songs for contractural reasons with Gibson. On that basis (and also the cost of course), I wasn't interested in getting one of the signature Les Pauls, particularly when I could get this for £2100.00
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dtvaviationimages/52414708791/in/album-72157627669196085/
I thought he had only the sig LP on tour in 2019, no more the original 58 which stood in the studio... did I miss something ? :think
From my photos you can make out that he is using different Les Pauls, including the '58. It's hard to tell because his hand often casts a shadow over the spot on the '58 where the wooden plug was inserted when it was restored, but it looked like he was using a signature model whenever he had a capo on the guitar, and on Why Aye Man he was using one with the neck pickup turned round a-la Peter Green (although I haven't got a photo of that). I asked Guy if he'd had the Peter Green mod done but got no reply. You can see the neck pickup IS reversed in this video, and he is using the middle position (both pickups). Another giveaway is that the guitars have different straps. It's unlikely that Glenn would be changing straps between songs so that's another indicator that they are on different guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8)
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I have one of the MK signature Strats. In my head the Strat is a different "thing" to the Les Paul, because although they were based on his 60's Strat Mark used them a lot live and when recording, and so I feel I am playing the same guitar as he does and not a "copy".
I know he's been using the signature Les Paul for some songs on his more recent tours, but he was still using the "real" '58, and due to the nature of the Gibsons (faded sunburst finish and pattern and depth of flame on the top) I feel that the Les Pauls are more of a "close copy" which he has been using on a few songs for contractural reasons with Gibson. On that basis (and also the cost of course), I wasn't interested in getting one of the signature Les Pauls, particularly when I could get this for £2100.00
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dtvaviationimages/52414708791/in/album-72157627669196085/
I thought he had only the sig LP on tour in 2019, no more the original 58 which stood in the studio... did I miss something ? :think
From my photos you can make out that he is using different Les Pauls, including the '58. It's hard to tell because his hand often casts a shadow over the spot on the '58 where the wooden plug was inserted when it was restored, but it looked like he was using a signature model whenever he had a capo on the guitar, and on Why Aye Man he was using one with the neck pickup turned round a-la Peter Green (although I haven't got a photo of that). I asked Guy if he'd had the Peter Green mod done but got no reply. You can see the neck pickup IS reversed in this video, and he is using the middle position (both pickups). Another giveaway is that the guitars have different straps. It's unlikely that Glenn would be changing straps between songs so that's another indicator that they are on different guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8)
ok thanks
of course there were different LP on that tour, but that doesn't mean the 58 was there
I thought that in 2019 he didn't bring "vintage" guitars no more (no more National, no more jurassic strat , etc...)
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I have one of the MK signature Strats. In my head the Strat is a different "thing" to the Les Paul, because although they were based on his 60's Strat Mark used them a lot live and when recording, and so I feel I am playing the same guitar as he does and not a "copy".
I know he's been using the signature Les Paul for some songs on his more recent tours, but he was still using the "real" '58, and due to the nature of the Gibsons (faded sunburst finish and pattern and depth of flame on the top) I feel that the Les Pauls are more of a "close copy" which he has been using on a few songs for contractural reasons with Gibson. On that basis (and also the cost of course), I wasn't interested in getting one of the signature Les Pauls, particularly when I could get this for £2100.00
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dtvaviationimages/52414708791/in/album-72157627669196085/
I thought he had only the sig LP on tour in 2019, no more the original 58 which stood in the studio... did I miss something ? :think
From my photos you can make out that he is using different Les Pauls, including the '58. It's hard to tell because his hand often casts a shadow over the spot on the '58 where the wooden plug was inserted when it was restored, but it looked like he was using a signature model whenever he had a capo on the guitar, and on Why Aye Man he was using one with the neck pickup turned round a-la Peter Green (although I haven't got a photo of that). I asked Guy if he'd had the Peter Green mod done but got no reply. You can see the neck pickup IS reversed in this video, and he is using the middle position (both pickups). Another giveaway is that the guitars have different straps. It's unlikely that Glenn would be changing straps between songs so that's another indicator that they are on different guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8)
ok thanks
of course there were different LP on that tour, but that doesn't mean the 58 was there
I thought that in 2019 he didn't bring "vintage" guitars no more (no more National, no more jurassic strat , etc...)
I'm satisfied that ( at Newcastle at least) he was playing the '58 on four songs. Once upon a time in the West, Your Latest Trick, Silvertown Blues & Speeedway At Nazareth. He changed to one of the Signature models for MFN & Going Home, and used a different signature model (with a capo) on Why Aye Man. The signature models look a bit more red around the pickup selector switch.
It's not the best shot, but this is the '58. Looking back at my Tracker tour photos it had the same strap on.
https://dtvaviationimages.co.uk/mark-knopfler-tour-photos/down-the-road-wherever-tour-2019/mk_0065lq/
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I have one of the MK signature Strats. In my head the Strat is a different "thing" to the Les Paul, because although they were based on his 60's Strat Mark used them a lot live and when recording, and so I feel I am playing the same guitar as he does and not a "copy".
I know he's been using the signature Les Paul for some songs on his more recent tours, but he was still using the "real" '58, and due to the nature of the Gibsons (faded sunburst finish and pattern and depth of flame on the top) I feel that the Les Pauls are more of a "close copy" which he has been using on a few songs for contractural reasons with Gibson. On that basis (and also the cost of course), I wasn't interested in getting one of the signature Les Pauls, particularly when I could get this for £2100.00
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dtvaviationimages/52414708791/in/album-72157627669196085/
I thought he had only the sig LP on tour in 2019, no more the original 58 which stood in the studio... did I miss something ? :think
From my photos you can make out that he is using different Les Pauls, including the '58. It's hard to tell because his hand often casts a shadow over the spot on the '58 where the wooden plug was inserted when it was restored, but it looked like he was using a signature model whenever he had a capo on the guitar, and on Why Aye Man he was using one with the neck pickup turned round a-la Peter Green (although I haven't got a photo of that). I asked Guy if he'd had the Peter Green mod done but got no reply. You can see the neck pickup IS reversed in this video, and he is using the middle position (both pickups). Another giveaway is that the guitars have different straps. It's unlikely that Glenn would be changing straps between songs so that's another indicator that they are on different guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36G-ZgY8d8)
ok thanks
of course there were different LP on that tour, but that doesn't mean the 58 was there
I thought that in 2019 he didn't bring "vintage" guitars no more (no more National, no more jurassic strat , etc...)
I'm satisfied that ( at Newcastle at least) he was playing the '58 on four songs. Once upon a time in the West, Your Latest Trick, Silvertown Blues & Speeedway At Nazareth. He changed to one of the Signature models for MFN & Going Home, and used a different signature model (with a capo) on Why Aye Man. The signature models look a bit more red around the pickup selector switch.
It's not the best shot, but this is the '58. Looking back at my Tracker tour photos it had the same strap on.
https://dtvaviationimages.co.uk/mark-knopfler-tour-photos/down-the-road-wherever-tour-2019/mk_0065lq/
thanks :thumbsup
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Wanted to confirm that my memory was correct so checked back, I saw the gold sticker on the back of the 58 from the front row of the RAH in 2019:
I saw the gold sticker from a couple of feet away at the RAH.
Also saw the signature and metal selector cover during the encores on the reissue. Don't really care if people choose not to believe that but I don't have anything to gain by making this up.
Less sure about the WAM guitar being a reissue but it looked practically new.
https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6846.105
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Les Paul observations from RAH:
WAM is a 59 reissue. He has used this on "capo" songs for years, WAM and SFSL. You can tell close up that it looks like new.
58 burst on quite a few things, OUATITW, YLT and others.
MK Les Paul reissue for the encores. Confused me at first as it looks vintage but clearly not the 58. When he turns you can see it doesn't have the gold sticker on the back of the headstock... But it is signed! I found it amusing that he signed his own guitar...
When he held it up at the end you could also see the metal cover behind the switchtip.
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That all makes sense, actually. After all, having just two Les Pauls isn't enough for somebody like MK. Especially since Les Paul is notorious for its tuning instability, having a separate guitar for every capo position and tuning makes a lot of sense.
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So why has nobody bought it yet? :think
I mean it's a bargain! Only 50K euros.
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So why has nobody bought it yet? :think
I mean it's a bargain! Only 50K euros.
NADA, he's waiting ***offer*** for it.