A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => New Investigations => Topic started by: kempston_joystick on April 20, 2017, 07:04:13 PM
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Tommy just posted this on Facebook:
"The recording adventures continued today with an extraordinary Artist...we sang together and played acoustically into some the sweetest microphones I've ever seen...Thanks to Mark Knopfler for the fun, guidance, and good sounds! x TE"
Edit: Mods please move this to the MK discussion forum!
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BRILLIANT
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OMG OMG OMG
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Yes, he was already posting the last days about what he calls his "duet project". So it seems more like Mark was HIS guest and playing for Tommy instead of what we all might have expected or dreamed of.
Great news though, especially the line about singing together. So it might be more than Mark's usual rhythm track contribution...
Tommy was announcing earlier this week that he was to meet one of his "idols" next Thursday.. :)
I love him and think it is far more interesting than any other option mentioned earlier here at AMIT.
LE
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Funny thing is that Tommy said three years ago (27 Apr 2014) in one of his podcasts, that meeting Mark would be dream come true.
He said "Mark, if you're listening — call me!" and did this...
(https://pp.userapi.com/c836426/v836426999/42879/dovNl9dCoQQ.jpg)
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Well it is a dream come true for me!
LE
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Very cool!
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Amazing ! I'm excited to see what the contribution amounts too :)
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It will be one (maybe two) songs for Tommy's duet album. Great to hear that Mark contributes vocals as well. As TE isn't exactly known as the world's greatest songwriter and large parts of his live sets are cover versions, there might be a chance to hear them both with an Interpretation of one of Mark's songs. An acoustic Sultans would be great wouldn't it.
LE
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That's great news. Thanks for sharing.
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Had the opportunity to meet tommy last month. He said that he had asked mark knopfler to record a couple (i think he said a couple) of songs with him, with the expectation that it wouldnt happen because mark is "way up in the stratosphere" as he would say. To his surprise mark accepted, but under the condition that tommy would also have to record some songs that mark wanted!
He said that it was very fast, they spent the morning in the studio, had lunch, and then mark basically sent him off because he had other things to do in the afternoon :P
Im excited to see what comes of it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OQNV1s2VXo
Now this video mentions Mark in its title. Does it mean it was one of the songs recorded by MK & Tommy? If so, I'm ALREADY super-happy!
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I can't find this song by lyrics... New song possibly? New Mark's song? :o
I think about it because of the line "I suppose" I suppose... And the first line is very MK-style.
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Sounds cool
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Theme, subject, melody and style is all totally MK me thinks. Also reminds me very much of that talking style in There'll Be Some Changes Made...
LE
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It's MARK'S SONG confirmed! Here's Tommy talking about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COVWHfGCsRw
28:50 - MK's song
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Exactly. At first I thought about Chet Atkins:)
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Exactly. At first I thought about Chet Atkins:)
Imagine being invited by Mark to play his song as if it was written just for you. I think Tommy now at least 99% happier than he was before! :thumbsup
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Lyrics and name anyone? Here's my take with my mad English skills:
You don't wanna get you one of those ??? ???
That old car would like to break your heart
But she too far gone, to even start
Take it for one who knows
You don't wanna get you one of those
She's always been as mean as she appears
Ain't done no Rock and Roll in 4 years
They should put it in a 'Crusher!' I suppose
You don't wanna get you one of those
Leave her over there behind the barn
Where , she’ll be 'out of the way!'
She's got Chassis rot
The gear box shot!
She's had her day
It's all over for that old heap
She needs a whole lot of more than beauty sleep
If you want to get you one that goes
You don't wanna get you one of those
Guitar solo
Leave her over there behind the barn
Where, she’ll be 'out of the way!'
She's got Chassis rot
The gear box shot!
She's had her day
It's all over for that old heap
She needs a whole lot of more than beauty sleep
If you want to get you one that goes
You don't wanna get you one of those
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This video from Bella Concert Hall is online since May 19th and no one found the MK part and rje song in it until today? Really folks, what's wrong with you? ;D :lol
LE
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This video from Bella Concert Hall is online since May 19th and no one found the MK part and rje song in it until today? Really folks, what's wrong with you? ;D :lol
LE
Too funny! ;D ;D ;D
Here's a link to a chunk of the original TE's video I just made through screen capture:
https://vk.com/video_ext.php?oid=448999&id=456239387&hash=e89ed5ac2141a2e7
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Thanks quizzaciously for the lyrics and video! :clap :thumbsup
Nice little song! Wouldn't be out of place on "Neck & Neck"... :thumbsup :clap
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I like this little tune, it's nice the same way Quality Shoe is or Your Perfect Song. Not exactly the kind of lyrics I would expect from a man who is called brilliant master songwriter at every occasion. But it sounds classic from the very beginning. Timeless. And I guess that is not so easy to achieve.
And there is a solo in it obviously and that's not too bad either.
Nice extended introductIon from TE. Did he really say "...He and his brother"?
LE
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Foma, the title is indeed "You don't wanna get you one of those", it's been in ASCAP since May, more or less.
YOU DON'T WANT TO GET YOU ONE OF THOSE Total Current ASCAP Share: 100%
ISWC: Not Assigned
Work ID: 892442652
Writers
ASCAP controls 50% PRO IPI
KNOPFLER MARK PRS 46804968
Performers
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Publishers
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WILL D SIDE LTD
Contact Info
NS 422874064
https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/writer/46804968/KNOPFLER%20MARK (https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/writer/46804968/KNOPFLER%20MARK) PAGE 4, one of the last titles.
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Here's a link to a chunk of the original TE's video I just made through screen capture:
https://vk.com/video_ext.php?oid=448999&id=456239387&hash=e89ed5ac2141a2e7
Is that the MK's song? I didn't had time yet to listen to the big video to search for MK song... so I don't know if this little one is the MK song either :(
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Thanks jbaent! :clap :clap :clap
LE, yeah, he said something about his brother! But Emmanuel brothers seem a little bit more wise to grow up in peace to me.
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Tommy's the man! Never played a single MK cover except occasional Sultans and Local Hero which wasn't his idea in the first place. Was waiting for the song being written for him instead! :lol ;D :clap
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Tommy's the man! Never played a single MK cover except occasional Sultans and Local Hero which wasn't his idea in the first place. Was waiting for the song being written for him instead! :lol ;D :clap
I guess it's one of those songs MK had written in the past but didn't include in any record, that song title is familiar to me, so it's possible I already read it long before, I might be wrong anyway, some of the unreleased MK titles looks quite the same ;D
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Well, jbaent, this song could easily be a B-side for "Daddy's Gone To Knoxville"! And it reminds me of an old classic song "Walking My Baby Home" Tommy loves to play time from time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qjFfSLzAV4
But what strikes me is the "I suppose" line. Why it sounds SO KNOPFLER? I mean you hear it and think — oh, that definitely must be MK. But why? It's not like his catchphrase even. Genius!
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I guess there is probably no other artist that you have listened to at hundreds of interviews and videos than Mark Knopfler... so his way of speaking and his talking habits might be more familiar to you than those of some folks of your own surrounding... (sometimes I really think he is one of the small group of people I REALLY seem to know).. so you must have heard him say "I suppose" dozens of times... I suppose?
LE
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Work in progress LOL :lol :lol :lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZG1v1ZA-A-/
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Here you have just the MK song played by Tommy Emmanuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coxjSONAjNA&
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Crazy ;D :)
You're the man. Already waiting for the lesson on this. :clap
Work in progress LOL :lol :lol :lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZG1v1ZA-A-/
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Here you have just the MK song played by Tommy Emmanuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coxjSONAjNA&
Thanks for the link, I was too lazy for finding a way over downloading it from YouTube and just recorded it off screen.
You can tell by the words Tommy's saying about his HUGE, huge admiration for Mark's work. I love that.
Crazy ;D :)
You're the man. Already waiting for the lesson on this. :clap
Yeah, thanks. Already know how to play the song, but my fingers is a complete mess... Played it like for 20 hours straight. Time to get healed.
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Doesn't it sound like something from the 1940's or 50's? It reminds me of something and I don't know what... :lol not anything from Mark but...
LE
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Doesn't it sound like something from the 1940's or 50's? It reminds me of something and I don't know what... :lol not anything from Mark but...
Sure LE, of course it sounds old. In fact, it sounds so old that my initial reaction was to google the lyrics up to find the song, what I usually do when I stumble across an amazing song I don't know. I thought it's a classic jazz standard from 30s, because Tommy plays plenty of them.
But after "I suppose" I immediately realised what's really happening and this is Mark's new song. How cool is that?
It has something from "I'll See You In My Dreams" for sure, all this stuff. Stylisation at its finest.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFi_g3TgNeY
It has this old classic vibe, I'm pretty sure Tommy said something like "Oh, I love the old music" and Mark said something like "Oh, I have plenty of songs I wrote in this genre as well". And Tommy be like: :o :o :o :o :o :o
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I like this little tune, it's nice the same way Quality Shoe is or Your Perfect Song. Not exactly the kind of lyrics I would expect from a man who is called brilliant master songwriter at every occasion. But it sounds classic from the very beginning. Timeless. And I guess that is not so easy to achieve.
And there is a solo in it obviously and that's not too bad either.
LE
Just what I thought too. Has a sort of Quality Shoe vibe to it, which is no bad thing IMO as I rather like that little tune.
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One Of Those was played again yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdyBQh36krg
Every time Tommy plays it it's like a brand new song, it amazes me every time.
Chords are different, solos are different, everything's different. That's class.
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http://rock107.com/mark-knopfler-an-accomplice-to-australian-guitarist-tommy-emmanuels-upcoming-duets-album/
Knopfler plays on a song titled “You Don’t Want to Get You One of Those,” which he also wrote.
Emmanuel points out that his duet with Knopfler was inspired by their mutual love of country music guitar great Chet Atkins.
“This song that Mark wrote captured Chet’s sense of humor so well and I had the time of my life in the studio with him conjuring ‘The Master’ as we laid it down,” Tommy recalls.
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Now, this is interesting... Tommy usually records his collaborations nowadays, like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAUI51ldtIc
The question is, did he record his collaboration with Mark????????? If so, this would be a bomb!
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I appreciate Tommy's guitar playing very much, but I was wondering if he needed a boost in sales with such a special song written for him, by MK and a record with collaborations. I don't mean it offensively, it is a shame that he s not as well known as other less inspired players, and maybe all he needs is the spotlight of such a song.
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I appreciate Tommy's guitar playing very much, but I was wondering if he needed a boost in sales with such a special song written for him, by MK and a record with collaborations. I don't mean it offensively, it is a shame that he s not as well known as other less inspired players, and maybe all he needs is the spotlight of such a song.
Tommy needs a lot of money to pay for three of his homes in America, Australia and England, also for his kids' education, he can't afford touring (and travel for that matter) in a private jet, driving fancy cars, etc. Which means he needs to do a lot of work, which for him is touring. But luckily for Tommy, he actually loves to play, so by playing nearly 365 shows a year he's like a shark in the ocean that would be dead if it would stop. His oldest daughters live in London, by the way, so in a way he's closer to Mark than we may think :lol
With that said, he's such in a sweet spot in life while enjoying his enormous success, his fame is not as wide as film stars or Mark's fame, he makes enough money from doing what he loves the most, in the meantime he manages to do some extremely generous things like giving away guitars, paying for talented kids' musical education, etc.
Bottom line, I don't think this was the direct reason, but to a very small degree it certainly was. And yes, he deserves more.
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so maybe he is just a fan! ;)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWwdwVolf7Y
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWwdwVolf7Y
Just wanted to post it :lol Amazing as was expected of course, maybe even little too impromptu. I don't think there was more wan one take lol!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWwdwVolf7Y
Just wanted to post it :lol Amazing as was expected of course, maybe even little too impromptu. I don't think there was more wan one take lol!
Sounds like they recorded it in my garage lol I don’t like this approach, too raw and casual to my taste...
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The Neck And Neck album reminded me :)
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Mark sounds drunk.
LE
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Mark sounds drunk.
LE
Yes, it's probably because the song is in a high key for vocals, MK always sounds weird when sings so high.
I also agree that sounds like a first take.
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I can hear that they had fun, though. But thinking about MK and TE, two legendary masters and wizards on the guitar, playing together ... and come up with something like this? Underwhelming to say the least...
LE
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I can hear that they had fun, though. But thinking about MK and TE, two legendary masters and wizards on the guitar, playing together ... and come up with something like this? Underwhelming to say the least...
LE
I also was waiting for more to be honest, but hey — it's Mark's song, so it's a kind of fair to have something like that.
I also can say that the secret project isn't a MK&TE record, because Mark even refused to film in his studio I suppose.
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I like it.
In my opinion he has again tried a slightly different approach at singing and I enjoy seeing him trying new ways.
The simplicity of the theme, the words, the arrangement and the accoustic guitars all fit the song very well.
The song itself is in his current direction of songwriting: less is more.
And I also like the idea: two accomplished guitar players instead of doing something bombastic to show off just do something very simple. Great
By the way: good to hear something new of the man, above all his soothing voice.
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I like it, I find it funny, in the "There'll be some changes made" mood, but with less shinning guitar solos... let's say, like the nowadays MK :lol :lol :lol :lol
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I have exactly the same associations :)
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I kinda like it, funny song.
But it kind of is Quality shoe's old grandpa.
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That's right. Mark could put this song on the record The Ragpicker's Dream :)
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I like it.
In my opinion he has again tried a slightly different approach at singing and I enjoy seeing him trying new ways.
The simplicity of the theme, the words, the arrangement and the accoustic guitars all fit the song very well.
The song itself is in his current direction of songwriting: less is more.
And I also like the idea: two accomplished guitar players instead of doing something bombastic to show off just do something very simple. Great
By the way: good to hear something new of the man, above all his soothing voice.
That's exactly what I dislike about the Tommy + Chet record, too much of a show off.
Cool song, signature MK lyrics, reminds me of Pulling Down The Ride.
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I actually like the tune itself very much and Mark's tipsy singing doesn't bother me at all. My problem with it is that it sounds like a poorly recorded pub performance. I didn't expect anything fancy with long solos or anything like that, just a nice and warm song performed by two legendary musicians and a little band - and a metronome lol can anybody else hear the little, let's say, mistakes that I hear?
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Maybe I am reading too much into it, but couldn't what some perceive as "poorly recorded", "little mistakes" or "first take" be done intentionally by the BG perfectionist to correspond with the one they sing about and that needs more than just beauty sleep?
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I actually like the tune itself very much and Mark's tipsy singing doesn't bother me at all. My problem with it is that it sounds like a poorly recorded pub performance. I didn't expect anything fancy with long solos or anything like that, just a nice and warm song performed by two legendary musicians and a little band - and a metronome lol can anybody else hear the little, let's say, mistakes that I hear?
Maybe I am reading too much into it, but couldn't what some perceive as "poorly recorded", "little mistakes" or "first take" be done intentionally by the BG perfectionist to correspond with the one they sing about and that needs more than just beauty sleep?
A couple of things to consider: it's Mark and Tommy literally playing together for the first time (on record) and with Mark being not a monster virtuoso jazz giant with whom Tommy usually plays, it's going to be a slightly rough performance already, which goes along the song well anyway and maybe because of that Mark thought about this song to play in the first place.
Second, is that of course this song is on Tommy's album and it completely changes all in terms of the sound, because Tommy's the boss in this situation. Mark and anyone else in his studio can have their opinion, but hey, it's Tommy's record!
To be honest for this reason I don't like Tommy & Chet duet album, because the sound is too... Cocktail, too lounge and laid-back. Mark & Chet duo album, in the other hand, has a very good sound. So maybe Mark had some impact on the overall sound, but anyway, the new song sounds like one take, because these two love to brag about recording anything with the first take :lol
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Never mind, we actually have an answer from the man himself:
“When I approached Mark Knopfler about playing on my album, he told me he would love to but it has to be one of his songs and ‘none of that fast shit.’ I immediately concurred, as I love all his compositions. I made my way to his studio in London and we sat down with our acoustic guitars and he sang me the song. It’s brilliantly written, and honestly and humbly performed. We recorded it like a performance, playing and singing in the same room. We purposely left it raw and didn’t try to polish it up. It was a great experience for me to be directed by such an accomplished artist as Mark.”
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And so everything is said and done :clap
No further interpretation or wishes necessary.
Reminds me when i was a kid in school and we have to interpret an author in a way "why he has written this and that and what he possible thought about".
Things are often quite simple.
By the way:
I like this song very much! :D
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The middle acoustic solo can be divided in two parts. Who plays which part? Any thoughts on that?
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The middle acoustic solo can be divided in two parts. Who plays which part? Any thoughts on that?
First one Tommy, then Marky.
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The middle acoustic solo can be divided in two parts. Who plays which part? Any thoughts on that?
First one Tommy, then Marky.
Yes, my thoughts too.
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‘none of that fast shit.’
Tommy is an incredible player and can play so fast it defies belief. But I don't like his fast shit and he's often going very fast. I can't put my finger on it but it's lacking something. When he slows down it's just so much better. And when he slows right down to meet Mark, it gets really good. I like it. I like pipes and whistles too but it's about time he takes another turn again. To go in this particular direction would be kind of going where he was before. But that's not necessarily such a bad thing. I'm looking forward to the past (see what I did there? ;D )
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The middle acoustic solo can be divided in two parts. Who plays which part? Any thoughts on that?
First one Tommy, then Marky.
Yes, my thoughts too.
So Tommy is the one who nails it and Mark had that pretty audible mistake at 1:46 in it? Something he would never accept on his own recording? Another way of dismantle his guitar hero status? Or just showing disrespect to Tommy? That "fast shit" sentence was not nice. Would have been cooler to accept the challenge and show Tommy the meaning of "fast"...
LE
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The middle acoustic solo can be divided in two parts. Who plays which part? Any thoughts on that?
First one Tommy, then Marky.
Yes, my thoughts too.
So Tommy is the one who nails it and Mark had that pretty audible greenie in it?
LE
Lol, im afraid so ;)
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The middle acoustic solo can be divided in two parts. Who plays which part? Any thoughts on that?
First one Tommy, then Marky.
Yes, my thoughts too.
So Tommy is the one who nails it and Mark had that pretty audible mistake at 1:46 in it? Something he would never accept on his own recording? Another way of dismantle his guitar hero status? Or just showing disrespect to Tommy? That "fast shit" sentence was not nice. Would have been cooler to accept the challenge and show Tommy the meaning of "fast" instead...
Sorry I was still in the writing process... :lol
LE
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I like the very warm Martin sound of Mark's playing though. You can almost smell the wood...
This song would not even have been a b-side or a bonus track in earlier times... 2:47? Is he trying to provoke us in showing how simple and low a song can get?
Really, this is some guitar plucking that really needs no "big name", no "sensational collaboration" thing. Wake these guys up at 3 a.m. and they will play you better stuff than this any time. Is it really wrong to have at least SOME expectations in MK still?
LE
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where it is written that there must be something big ?
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‘none of that fast shit.’
Tommy is an incredible player and can play so fast it defies belief. But I don't like his fast shit and he's often going very fast. I can't put my finger on it but it's lacking something. When he slows down it's just so much better. And when he slows right down to meet Mark, it gets really good. I like it. I like pipes and whistles too but it's about time he takes another turn again. To go in this particular direction would be kind of going where he was before. But that's not necessarily such a bad thing. I'm looking forward to the past (see what I did there? ;D )
I love this video of Tommy and Les Paul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPCR607ZtSI
Watch past 1:00 minute mark and wait for it! Pretty much sums up Mark's quote about fast shit.
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Nowhere of course. But one might have some expectations nevertheless.
(For example, Pottel dreams of a Gilmour/Knopfler collaboration. Mark strums his acoustic silently in the back and David only plays some tasteful licks during a 2:50 song or something? )
Expectations. ..
LE
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I understand. It's a very simple joyful song. Maybe this was the assumption. I do not know if I had expectations regarding this cooperation. I prefer, however, as Mark sings with a lower voice :)
ps. sorry for my english
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I listened two times to it today and during the second listen I thought that it is ... A nice little song. With good warm Martin guitar sound. I agree with you about Mark's singing voice.
LE
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So Tommy is the one who nails it and Mark had that pretty audible mistake at 1:46 in it? Something he would never accept on his own recording? Another way of dismantle his guitar hero status? Or just showing disrespect to Tommy? That "fast shit" sentence was not nice. Would have been cooler to accept the challenge and show Tommy the meaning of "fast" instead...
Sorry I was still in the writing process... :lol
LE
At 1:46 it's just a little fluke that doesn't justify throwing the recording out :)
I understand where you're coming from, but I think that it's just about getting older. I think if these guys would teamed up 30 years early, they would release a song with the "shit" so fast your record player would blow up.
But actually I just LOVE this remark about fast shit. You can't believe how much I respect MK for saying words like that, because interestingly enough, Mark had similar words to say about no other than CHET ATKINS. Mark said he has too much of this "smooth jazz" music or even elevator music, cocktail music or something like that. Which is also 100% true. This is the reason I've skipped most of his records even. So Mark is a wizard when it comes to musician's psychology, because he says things to Tommy Emmanuel and to Chet Atkins which no other human on Earth would say to them while being equally loved after the fact. This is called respect.
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Thanks for commenting. Made me think about it.
LE
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I caught another little slip at 0:08, not sure who rushed it. As LE said I don't see Mark allowing it on his own albums. Now I'm curious to see what Tommy recorded for Mark. If it's nice and polished like pretty much everything Mark does that will be weird. It's like come to my studio, I'll give you a little song I don't want and 5 minutes of my time to record it and then you lend me your skills for the rest of the day so I can record yet another beautifully crafted song for my new album, how about that :lol
Regarding the fast shit line, I bet that was Tommy's wording. Mark most likely said something like 'sure, but please don't make me look miserable, take it easy on me' :lol :lol :lol
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Tommy used a quote I'm afraid :lol
But Mark made me think about all this fast stuff. Here's another example of music being transformed into sport (and it's Caravan again!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8YoluSiOJE
I get a headache from such a fast music. Let's see Tommy's contribution to Mark if there was one. I think it was a polished one :lol
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But, on the other hand, Tommy needs this for entertainment purposes. Chet needed all this "easy listening" music to make a living.
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I hate shredding. I look at Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen, Petrucci and others and all I can see is a bunch of show-offs with low self esteem who think music is a mix of sport and acting. Tommy can be one of those sometimes but he's also extremely sensitive and ends up making good use of speed too.
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‘none of that fast shit.’
Tommy is an incredible player and can play so fast it defies belief. But I don't like his fast shit and he's often going very fast. I can't put my finger on it but it's lacking something. When he slows down it's just so much better. And when he slows right down to meet Mark, it gets really good. I like it. I like pipes and whistles too but it's about time he takes another turn again. To go in this particular direction would be kind of going where he was before. But that's not necessarily such a bad thing. I'm looking forward to the past (see what I did there? ;D )
I love this video of Tommy and Les Paul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPCR607ZtSI
Watch past 1:00 minute mark and wait for it! Pretty much sums up Mark's quote about fast shit.
funny response by Les Paul ! ;D
I remember les Paul playing very fast in his young days when he played with his wife
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I hate shredding. I look at Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen, Petrucci and others and all I can see is a bunch of show-offs with low self esteem who think music is a mix of sport and acting. Tommy can be one of those sometimes but he's also extremely sensitive and ends up making good use of speed too.
I hate shredding too, can't stand all those metal players.
But in this case, I think that Tommy is more in the Django tradition : playing fast is not for show off, or demonstrate is guitar viruosity. I think it's more to suit the old jazz tradition, I mean enthusiasm, "fast life", living in night parties, liberty..you now when music seems to make you fly; I thinkit's the idea
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I caught another little slip at 0:08, not sure who rushed it. As LE said I don't see Mark allowing it on his own albums.
I think it was the case in the eighties, but now Mark seems to be less perfectinnist regarding performances. he is more into a "playing live all together ithe studio" thing like "you can't beat the house".
On "good as gold", there is a very notable greenie by Richard and they didn't record it again. ok it was not on the "real" record", but it was on the bonus of the deluxe edition
I also remember an interview aired on french radio for the OES album promo, and Mark said that fade to black was played live with the band in one take. And he said : "I could have played better, but we kept it like this, and we took this take for the record. instead of playing it agian to make it perfect, we preferred to keep it fresh"
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But actually I just LOVE this remark about fast shit. You can't believe how much I respect MK for saying words like that, because interestingly enough, Mark had similar words to say about no other than CHET ATKINS. Mark said he has too much of this "smooth jazz" music or even elevator music, cocktail music or something like that. Which is also 100% true. This is the reason I've skipped most of his records even. So Mark is a wizard when it comes to musician's psychology, because he says things to Tommy Emmanuel and to Chet Atkins which no other human on Earth would say to them while being equally loved after the fact. This is called respect.
I know I will have ennemies here, but neck and neck sounds like elevator music to me. It's indeed how it was called in a french review in 1990.
Some songs are good, and I like listen to it, but the production...sometimes sounds horrible. It doesn't sound like a root country album (as it shoud be), it sounds like a nineties pop-mainstream album. Too polished (like NHB album and OES too).
Sometimes, I prefer this kind of sound like this tune by Tommy and Mark. Yes it seems to have been recorded in a garage, but it sounds like they had fun, and this kind of sound fit vey well to that old-jazzy style, while the neck and neck production ala 90 perfect sound doesn't fit wth these old country tunes imho
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I don't hear any special "mistake" at 1:46 ? :think
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I know I will have ennemies here, but neck and neck sounds like elevator music to me. It's indeed how it was called in a french review in 1990.
Some songs are good, and I like listen to it, but the production...sometimes sounds horrible. It doesn't sound like a root country album (as it shoud be), it sounds like a nineties pop-mainstream album. Too polished (like NHB album and OES too).
Sometimes, I prefer this kind of sound like this tune by Tommy and Mark. Yes it seems to have been recorded in a garage, but it sounds like they had fun, and this kind of sound fit vey well to that old-jazzy style, while the neck and neck production ala 90 perfect sound doesn't fit wth these old country tunes imho
But compared to other Chet Atkins records, including his duet with Tommy, Neck And Neck has a very country sound. CA&TE collaboration is even more "easy listening". So don't worry, no enemies at all ;D
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I don't hear any special "mistake" at 1:46 ? :think
Neither do I also the one at 0.08. Too much nit-picking, perhaps? :think I like the song very much, btw. :)
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I don't hear any special "mistake" at 1:46 ? :think
Neither do I also the one at 0.08. Too much nit-picking, perhaps? :think I like the song very much, btw. :)
As I said, it's not a mistake per say, but rather a little fluke. Mistake would be if he played the wrong note there, but it's just an awkward mute.
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There's a minor error at 0:08 or maybe 0:07, not a big deal. I don't really feel like revisiting the song in question anytime soon but it was either a slight tempo conflict or two conflicting notes that generate a dissonance. That's the problem with live recordings, if something like that happens it's virtually impossible to fix it, and then it can lead to a dillema in case you really like the take. As I said, that approach is definitely not my cuppa tea but that's just my taste.
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I have no desire to find errors, I have no clue what you’re talking about...
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I don't hear any special "mistake" at 1:46 ? :think
Neither do I also the one at 0.08. Too much nit-picking, perhaps? :think I like the song very much, btw. :)
As I said, it's not a mistake per say, but rather a little fluke. Mistake would be if he played the wrong note there, but it's just an awkward mute.
Hey quizzaciously, let me tell you something: Your approach to the song, and playing is much more interesting than this. And your April Come She Will cover is sublime. Thanks for sharing this gems.
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Hey quizzaciously, let me tell you something: Your approach to the song, and playing is much more interesting than this. And your April Come She Will cover is sublime. Thanks for sharing this gems.
Good evening Sir, thank you. My approach is based on Tommy Emmanuel's solo version, so all the credit goes to him, my job was merely repeating it and coming up with the original solo. I got to say that I love the solo version more than their duo version... Now I'm curious to hear Mark's solo version as well!
P.S. Thank you for April Come She Will, I love that song, too. I tried to give it some MK feeling, and it worked! ;D
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I don't hear any special "mistake" at 1:46 ? :think
Neither do I also the one at 0.08. Too much nit-picking, perhaps? :think I like the song very much, btw. :)
I'm with JF and Val. I never noticed a mistake and I was actively looking for them!
It may not be a masterpiece but it's refreshing to have a new song without whistles and pipes. I hope this is a sign of things to come.
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Seriously? I think that this song or Playtime Deluxe do not tell us anything about the new MK album
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Seriously? I think that this song or Playtime Deluxe do not tell us anything about the new MK album
Looks like it, with these two songs you can tell it all comes from the drawer, maybe written 5, 10, 15 years ago. Especially after the 2015 album!
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It is true. I am looking forward to a new album and a mysterious project.
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Lol I don’t really nitpick when listening to Mark’s stuff but I can’t help noticing something my ears heard either, guys. I can’t unhear it or tell my brain not to process it :lol
Anyway, I like the song but I reckon it could sound much better if the band was involved, just drums, bass and piano. Sometimes raw works, Iron Hand is a good example, but in this specific case I think it was a mistake.
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Mark has a tendency to sing in a high tone. I think it sounds better with a lower voice
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"I like the song but I reckon it could sound much better if the band was involved, just drums, bass and piano. Sometimes raw works, Iron Hand is a good example, but in this specific case I think it was a mistake"
Exactly
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most of the comments calls for Laugh and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes, bored out of the mind with the Colins and Bobs 8)
on the other side, I find the song very amusing! It's Mark still on his mission, sharing the feast, and we do know the story, we do feel the pain, do we? 'couse Donegan's gone!
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Mark has a tendency to sing in a high tone. I think it sounds better with a lower voice
It's interesting, because they've played it in the Half-Step Down Tuning, and Tommy plays it in Whole-Step Down Tuning which sounds better.
It's true that it sound better in lower register, but it demands tuning the instruments down, which is never an easy task for lazy people lol :lol
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most of the comments calls for Laugh and Jokes and Drinks and Smokes, bored out of the mind with the Colins and Bobs 8)
on the other side, I find the song very amusing! It's Mark still on his mission, sharing the feast, and we do know the story, we do feel the pain, do we? 'couse Donegan's gone!
Also, a man in the comments on YouTube made me think about this song having some Randy Newman vibe in it. I demand a stride piano cover!
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Yes Randy newman, exactly !
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you don't want to get you one of those
(Mark Knopfler)
That old car would like to break your heart
But she too far gone, to even start
Take it for one who knows
You don't wanna get you one of those
She's always been as mean as she appears
Ain't done no Rock and Roll in 4 years
They should put it in a 'Crusher!' I suppose
You don't wanna get you one of those
Leave her over there behind the barn
Where , she’ll be 'out of the way!'
She's got Chassis rot
The gear box shot!
She's had her day
It's all over for that old heap
She needs a whole lot of more than beauty sleep
If you want to get you one that goes
You don't wanna get you one of those
Leave her over there behind the barn
Where, she’ll be 'out of the way!'
She's got Chassis rot
The gear box shot!
She's had her day
It's all over for that old heap
She needs a whole lot of more than beauty sleep
If you want to get you one that goes
You don't wanna get you one of those
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Yes Randy newman, exactly !
more, it reminds me of "you got a friend in me", that got a very nice cover by Claire and Dad :) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukD8zj6ngVY
Oh and Pavel, these two songs have this famous chords I was talking about : diminished that sound augmented to my ears, and vice versa ;)
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Seriously? I think that this song or Playtime Deluxe do not tell us anything about the new MK album
I don't think either of them can tell us anything about the new album, but if an album with less whistles and pipes was to be released then that would be good IMO. That is what I meant.
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It changes the point of view :) We know that Richard Bennett is in British Grove in London. We do not know if there is Michael McGoldrick and John McCusker
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After all, even while You Don’t Want To Get You One of Those isn't the greatest song ever by any means, but it does 1) Stuck in your head for days and weeks and 2) Sounds like a soundtrack for a movie never released, which is a good thing anyway. Also, it's just a pleasure to see a lifetime fan (Tommy) playing with one of his idols, because that's what Mark was doing all of his life playing with his idols. In anyway this collaboration is just an amazing piece of history and also is a great little song. Literally nothing wrong with it, including the stylish lyric video on Tommy's channel.
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I agree about the "stucks in your head" thing ... ::) :lol
LE
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I agree about the "stucks in your head" thing ... ::) :lol
LE
Yes, it's been in my head for days now! :)
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Sometimes very simple songs, modest means of expression stay for longer. Mark has it
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As with "Quality shoe", it makes me think about "Queen Of The Road"
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As with "Quality shoe", it makes me think about "Queen Of The Road"
You mean King right? 8)
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As with "Quality shoe", it makes me think about "Queen Of The Road"
You mean King right? 8)
Probably, lol
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I don't hear anything wrong at 0:07 or 0:08
the error at 1:47, well yes that one is there, not sure MK would have left it on his own recording but it's the kind of stuff that is considered fair on an acoustic
nice little song
and yes I would like Knopfler+Gilmour too
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nice little song
Yeah, you can't get wrong with these guys having like 120 years of playing combined, tiny little microscopic mistakes happen all the time.
My personal problem with this song is the title. You Don't Want To Get You One Of Those... What? Why not, I don't know, The Old Car Blues or something. Even when Tommy Emmanuel played it, he said something like it's the song about one of those "Little Heaps". But it may be just my problem, I'm not a fan of long titles. Like Ben Affleck's debut movie as the director titled, hm, "I Killed My Lesbian Wife, Hung Her on a Meat Hook, and Now I Have a Three-Picture Deal at Disney" (proof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Killed_My_Lesbian_Wife,_Hung_Her_on_a_Meat_Hook,_and_Now_I_Have_a_Three-Picture_Deal_at_Disney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Killed_My_Lesbian_Wife,_Hung_Her_on_a_Meat_Hook,_and_Now_I_Have_a_Three-Picture_Deal_at_Disney)).
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nice little song
Yeah, you can't get wrong with these guys having like 120 years of playing combined, tiny little microscopic mistakes happen all the time.
My personal problem with this song is the title. You Don't Want To Get You One Of Those... What? Why not, I don't know, The Old Car Blues or something. Even when Tommy Emmanuel played it, he said something like it's the song about one of those "Little Heaps". But it may be just my problem, I'm not a fan of long titles. Like Ben Affleck's debut movie as the director titled, hm, "I Killed My Lesbian Wife, Hung Her on a Meat Hook, and Now I Have a Three-Picture Deal at Disney" (proof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Killed_My_Lesbian_Wife,_Hung_Her_on_a_Meat_Hook,_and_Now_I_Have_a_Three-Picture_Deal_at_Disney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Killed_My_Lesbian_Wife,_Hung_Her_on_a_Meat_Hook,_and_Now_I_Have_a_Three-Picture_Deal_at_Disney)).
Some of the best films ever made have long titles:
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines or How I Flew from London to Paris in 25 hours 11 minutes
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Police Academy 6: City Under Siege
I personally think song titles with the word "blues" in them are a bit cheesy.
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Some of the best films ever made have long titles:
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines or How I Flew from London to Paris in 25 hours 11 minutes
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Police Academy 6: City Under Siege
I personally think song titles with the word "blues" in them are a bit cheesy.
A good point. One of my all time favourite songs is "René And Georgette Magritte With Their Dog After The War". Pretty long, huh?
Anyway, I see this video and I want Randy Newman to cover new MK song so bad, somebody help me. Maybe write a letter to him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3kySKLS2rg
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First solo : 1'21'' : Tommy Emmanuel
Second solo : 1'40 : Mark Knopfler
You hear it like me ?
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First solo : 1'21'' : Tommy Emmanuel
Second solo : 1'40 : Mark Knopfler
You hear it like me ?
It can't be the other way.
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More simple : Mark is on the right, Tommy is on the left
both for voices and guitars
so yes first solo is Tommy, second is Mark
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So the album is out now officially and I love how Tommy puts it in the email newsletter, "none of that fast stuff". Got to be polite in the email :lol
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(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/27173666_10215379976595803_3503508519871133016_o.jpg?oh=3ee3094fe5e926981b2877de8692dc40&oe=5B1C128B)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VHSAYJD5nI
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I like him so much more when he only does the "slow shit" :clap