A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: joko on August 08, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
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I am looking for the studio version of LH, but can't find it nowhere. I have already the acoustic version (Timothy White session ) and some very good live version (Hamburg, Vaison ). I bought also the CD Sailing to Philadelphia (2000), but this CD contains only 13 songs. I am sure there must have been a limited edition of this CD with 4 bonus tracks. Knows somebody where to get this CD or at least primarily the studio version of the song Long Highway ?
servus
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That's the What it is Maxi-Single you are looking for
for example this one on Ebay: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Mark-Knopfler-What-it-is-Maxi-CD-Rock-/322562110855?hash=item4b1a333587:g:5igAAOSwAO9ZShZp
And here is the Studio Version on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdjv__uKSHM
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One of the greatest songs he ever wrote. Still can't believe it ended up as a b-side of a single. Other people would kill to write one song like this in their whole life. :smack
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@Dutchessy
thanks for the youtube link ... exactly what I was looking for. The What it is -Maxi-CD is new for me ... but I meant instead the limited edition of the CD Sailing to Philadelphia (2000) --> http://lyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_Knopfler:Sailing_To_Philadelphia_(2000)
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One of the greatest songs he ever wrote. Still can't believe it ended up as a b-side of a single. Other people would kill to write one song like this in their whole life. :smack
Couldn't say it better! :thumbsup
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Those were the times... put out as an appetizer for the STP album, that maxi-CD had four tracks on it: What It is, Let's See You, Long Highway and Camerado.. pure quality!
I also fell in love with The Long Highway studio Version immediately with the first listen and agree that it is one of his very best songs! Connecting it live with Going Home back in 1996 was really a brilliant idea and a phantastic show closer. How surprised I was at the Hamburg show to get a new song at the end of an already more-than-phantastic concert! June 8th 1996 best concert I ever attended, I guess... Hey joko Servus und Moin!
LE
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@Dutchessy
thanks for the youtube link ... exactly what I was looking for. The What it is -Maxi-CD is new for me ... but I meant instead the limited edition of the CD Sailing to Philadelphia (2000) --> http://lyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_Knopfler:Sailing_To_Philadelphia_(2000)
As far as I know there is no such thing as a limited edition of the STP cd.
There were three different editions, the one worlwide with 13 songs, one in USA that didn´t have "One More Matinee" and has instead "Do America" and the one only for the UK with both "Do America" and "One More Matinee".
There were two great rare items, the "What It Is" maxicd with three unreleased tracks "Let´s see you", "Long Highway" and "Camerado" and the "What It Is" mexican cdsingle that had a larger version of What It Is with extra lyrics that were cut out in the record. That version is only available in the Mexican cd single.
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That version is only available in the Mexican cd single.
I could never understand what kind of sadistic person at the record company it was who would come up with that idea.
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That version is only available in the Mexican cd single.
I could never understand what kind of sadistic person at the record company it was who would come up with that idea.
It was a mistake... That longer version was supposed to be deleted from anywhere, but somehow it ended in that Mexican cdsingle... so, lucky we ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ1pd4BH13M
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Those were the times... put out as an appetizer for the STP album, that maxi-CD had four tracks on it: What It is, Let's See You, Long Highway and Camerado.. pure quality!
I also fell in love with The Long Highway studio Version immediately with the first listen and agree that it is one of his very best songs! Connecting it live with Going Home back in 1996 was really a brilliant idea and a phantastic show closer. How surprised I was at the Hamburg show to get a new song at the end of an already more-than-phantastic concert! June 8th 1996 best concert I ever attended, I guess... Hey joko Servus und Moin!
LE
Yeah, great times. But no reason to be overly nostalgic, in my opinion. Actually, I reacted to "Follow the Ribbon" the same way as I reacted to "Long Highway" back then – with tears. The similarities are striking: Both fantastic songs, both very emotional, both released as bonus tracks, only, for whatever strange reason ... Anyway, I'm glad that they exist and shouldn't complain.
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A wonderful song indeed, but personally I am not too fond of the rhythmical accents on 1 and 2 in the studio version, still very good though.
There also is the DVD-A version which got hi-res stereo and a 5.1 surround mix (containing the 8 extra bars at the start of the STP solo, as on the PI compilation). Furthermore, there is the STP maxi single which got live in the studio versions of Baloney Again, Going Home (both very good, just MK+Guy) and El Macho (not so good, usual promo band).
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Those were the times... put out as an appetizer for the STP album, that maxi-CD had four tracks on it: What It is, Let's See You, Long Highway and Camerado.. pure quality!
I also fell in love with The Long Highway studio Version immediately with the first listen and agree that it is one of his very best songs! Connecting it live with Going Home back in 1996 was really a brilliant idea and a phantastic show closer. How surprised I was at the Hamburg show to get a new song at the end of an already more-than-phantastic concert! June 8th 1996 best concert I ever attended, I guess... Hey joko Servus und Moin!
LE
Yeah, great times. But no reason to be overly nostalgic, in my opinion. Actually, I reacted to "Follow the Ribbon" the same way as I reacted to "Long Highway" back then – with tears. The similarities are striking: Both fantastic songs, both very emotional, both released as bonus tracks, only, for whatever strange reason ... Anyway, I'm glad that they exist and shouldn't complain.
Did I complain? :hmm
LE
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That version is only available in the Mexican cd single.
I could never understand what kind of sadistic person at the record company it was who would come up with that idea.
It was a mistake... That longer version was supposed to be deleted from anywhere, but somehow it ended in that Mexican cdsingle... so, lucky we ;)
It's a curiosity certainly. One would normally expect an edited version for a single and the full length version to be included on the album. I always enjoy hearing the extra verse.
Isn't there an edited version of Long Highway out there? Anywhere!!! :disbelief
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Those were the times... put out as an appetizer for the STP album, that maxi-CD had four tracks on it: What It is, Let's See You, Long Highway and Camerado.. pure quality!
I also fell in love with The Long Highway studio Version immediately with the first listen and agree that it is one of his very best songs! Connecting it live with Going Home back in 1996 was really a brilliant idea and a phantastic show closer. How surprised I was at the Hamburg show to get a new song at the end of an already more-than-phantastic concert! June 8th 1996 best concert I ever attended, I guess... Hey joko Servus und Moin!
LE
Servus LE ... great to hear from you.
I agree to all and I love this song too ... more and more ... and has become very important for me. But in the context of the lyric I can't understand the line "spare a thought for a vagabond". Obviously I can't find the correct translation. Would helpful for me, if you could tell me your interpretation ...
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"...Vielleicht hast du ja noch einen Gedanken übrig für den Vagabunden (wenn er wieder weg ist..)
Or
"Vielleicht denkst du ja mal an mich... wenn ich gegangen bin"
Or
"Schließe ihn in deine Gebete ein"... sinngemäß
LE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ1pd4BH13M
We got it in Brazil too :clap ;D
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I'll never understand why The Long Highway, Camerado and One More Matinee were not included in the album. Three masterpieces in my opinion.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ1pd4BH13M
We got it in Brazil too :clap ;D
Really? Didn't know. Cover is the same for the CD single?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ1pd4BH13M
We got it in Brazil too :clap ;D
Really? Didn't know. Cover is the same for the CD single?
Mark's record company in Brazil doesn't sell singles, only the regular albums. We never really had the CD-single culture over here, actually.
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So... In the Brazilian STP the What It Is is the rare extended version like the Mexican single?
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So... In the Brazilian STP the What It Is is the rare extended version like the Mexican single?
Yes, it's in the regular album, at least it's the same version you posted above.
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Hang on a minute, I might be wrong... I'll get my girlfriend to bring it over when she comes by and will let you know.
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"...Vielleicht hast du ja noch einen Gedanken übrig für den Vagabunden (wenn er wieder weg ist..)
Or
"Vielleicht denkst du ja mal an mich... wenn ich gegangen bin"
Or
"Schließe ihn in deine Gebete ein"... sinngemäß
LE
IMO finde ich im gesamten Kontext des Songs die 2. oder 3. übersetzung am passendsten. Mit der Bedeutung/Übersetzung des Verb spare habe ich trotzdem meine Schwierigkeiten ???
Servus
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Ich Weiss est nich
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To spare: erübrigen
Einen Gedanken erübrigen
LE
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Pues ya sería curioso que la versión cd del Sailing tuviera el What It Is del maxi mexicano, toda una curiosidad desde luego.
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Oke, nu weer in het Engels alsjeblieft ;)
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Eu me enganei, eu tinha a versão estendida em uma coletânea pirata que eu fiz em casa, o meu cd original tem a versão normal...
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Eu me enganei, eu tinha a versão estendida em uma coletânea pirata que eu fiz em casa, o meu cd original tem a versão normal...
Entiendo, muchas gracias por comprobarlo :thumbsup
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Ok folks next time I will use pm, promised! :lol
LE
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Ok folks next time I will use pm, promised! :lol
LE
It's been fun to turn this into a Babel tower for a while LOL
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Those were the times... put out as an appetizer for the STP album, that maxi-CD had four tracks on it: What It is, Let's See You, Long Highway and Camerado.. pure quality!
I also fell in love with The Long Highway studio Version immediately with the first listen and agree that it is one of his very best songs! Connecting it live with Going Home back in 1996 was really a brilliant idea and a phantastic show closer. How surprised I was at the Hamburg show to get a new song at the end of an already more-than-phantastic concert! June 8th 1996 best concert I ever attended, I guess... Hey joko Servus und Moin!
LE
Yeah, great times. But no reason to be overly nostalgic, in my opinion. Actually, I reacted to "Follow the Ribbon" the same way as I reacted to "Long Highway" back then – with tears. The similarities are striking: Both fantastic songs, both very emotional, both released as bonus tracks, only, for whatever strange reason ... Anyway, I'm glad that they exist and shouldn't complain.
Did I complain? :hmm
LE
No, I did, this was me trying to keep myself from complaining. About the fact that he sometimes excludes his greatest songs from the albums. We can be glad to get them at all, that's what I was trying to say. No offense.
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We now have more songs than ever, even if some of them turn up in silly boxes... ;)
But I remember very well my fears how I should handle a "normal" album after Privateering. .. and then the Tracker had nearly as many songs.. on one CD.. really a long and rich journey. I hope he keeps it this way. I know discussions about quantity vs. quality. I just love to have so much stuff to delve into and make discoveries sometimes even one year after release...
LE
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I know discussions about quantity vs. quality.
LE
Tracker has both. It's my favourite MK album and I haven't tired of listening! :)
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Same here!
LE
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Eu me enganei, eu tinha a versão estendida em uma coletânea pirata que eu fiz em casa, o meu cd original tem a versão normal...
Entiendo, muchas gracias por comprobarlo :thumbsup
You're welcome:) I got confused cos I remember very clearly driving to a gig in a city nearby listening to the longer version. As soon as my girl handed me my long lost friend I opened it and there was the proper disc and... my compilation. There used to be a fair two or three-week delay after an album was released in Europe and North America before we could buy it over here so we would download everything we could before buying the real thing. Somehow I got that version. Lucky me... I had no idea that was from a mexican promo single until you mentioned that. Mistery solved. I love this forum.
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A wonderful song indeed, but personally I am not too fond of the rhythmical accents on 1 and 2 in the studio version, still very good though.
There also is the DVD-A version which got hi-res stereo and a 5.1 surround mix (containing the 8 extra bars at the start of the STP solo, as on the PI compilation). Furthermore, there is the STP maxi single which got live in the studio versions of Baloney Again, Going Home (both very good, just MK+Guy) and El Macho (not so good, usual promo band).
Is it known where this Going Home live version came from by any chance? It'm guessing it's the Wild theme if it's just MK + Guy?
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If I remember well they came from a session for German radio WDR.
The question of it being Wild Theme or Going Home seems not so easy to answer. On the Local Hero record Wild Theme directly starts at that main melody the two titles share, the chorus if it was a song. Going Home is of course the full band version but that one exclusively has that whole build up towards that main melody, to me that is a major compositional part. That part being present in a live version technically makes it Going Home for me, although being it performed in an arrangement like Wild Theme.
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If I remember well they came from a session for German radio WDR.
The question of it being Wild Theme or Going Home seems not so easy to answer. On the Local Hero record Wild Theme directly starts at that main melody the two titles share, the chorus if it was a song. Going Home is of course the full band version but that one exclusively has that whole build up towards that main melody, to me that is a major compositional part. That part being present in a live version technically makes it Going Home for me, although being it performed in an arrangement like Wild Theme.
On the Encores EP this variant is listed as 'Local Hero (Wild Theme)', this is also how it was played during the 91/92, 2001 and 2005 tours. I don't think Wild Theme was ever played live as it was recorded on the soundtrack.
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I believe the live versions always have been the same somekind of hybrid version played stripped down to keys and guitar or with full band. The encores/OTN version is also used on the SOS compilation and listed as 'Local Hero / Wild Theme'. On the contrary on the official STP single it is listed as 'Going Home'. And I have to correct myself as it was recorded for Taratata, Italy in november 2000. The other two tracks were indeed recorded at WDR 2 studios, Cologne in october 2000. Another odd thing about this particular Local Hero version is that although played stripped down MK used the Les Paul instead of a strat (at least that is what my ears tell me), the only other time that happened I know of is Music for Montserrat 1997.
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Any of you have any of this official material?
Mark Knopfler Remembrance day 1CD-single Vertigo REMEMBERCJ1 2009 2 track, promotion CD-single, slimline jewel case, UK edition
Mark Knopfler Cleaning my gun 1CD-single Reprise PRO-CDR-524023 2010 1 track, promotion CD-single, jewel case, USA edition
Mark Knopfler Hard shoulder 1CD-single Universal - 2010 1 track, promotion CD-single, slimline jewel case, CD-R release, Dutch edition
Mark Knopfler Redbud tree 1CD-single Universal - 2012 1 track, promotion CD-single, slimline jewel case, CD-R release, Dutch edition
Mark Knopfler Redbud tree 1CD-single Mercury - 2012 1 track, promotion CD-single, plastic sleeve, CD-R release
Mark Knopfler Redbud tree 1CD-single Mercury - 2012 1 track, promotion CD-single, plastic sleeve, CD-R release
Mark Knopfler Privateering 1CD-single Mercury - 2012 3 track, promotion CD-single, plastic sleeve, CD-R release
Mark Knopfler Privateering - Sampler 1CD-single Mercury - 2012 5 track, promotion CD-single, jewel case, CD-R release
Mark Knopfler Corned beef city 1CD-single Universal - 2013 1 track, promotion CD-single, slimline jewel case, CD-R release, Dutch edition
Mark Knopfler Going Home (Theme of the Local Hero) Live 2014 Digital download UMC - 2014 Official track, not released on CD or DVD, issued for the Great North Run 2014
Mark Knopfler Beryl 1CD-single Universal - 2015 2 track, promotion CD-single, plastic sleeve, CD-R release, UK edition
Mark Knopfler Beryl 1CD-single Universal - 2015 1 track, promotion CD-single, slimline jewel case, CD-R release, Dutch edition
Mark Knopfler Skydiver 1CD-single Virgin EMI Records - 2015
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I have some, easy to find in eBay or discogs. Some of them are quite rare.
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Never been a collector of these. If they released different versions like the so-called Mexican Promo WII then they would be worth buying, but frankly I just don't see the point.
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Collections doesn't have a point :lol
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On the contrary on the official STP single it is listed as 'Going Home'. And I have to correct myself as it was recorded for Taratata, Italy in november 2000. Another odd thing about this particular Local Hero version is that although played stripped down MK used the Les Paul instead of a strat (at least that is what my ears tell me), the only other time that happened I know of is Music for Montserrat 1997.
I don't suppose it's possible to listen to this version anywhere? Being official it will not be found on..... wait a second... I have it lol! My collection must be bigger than I thought.
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Another odd thing about this particular Local Hero version is that although played stripped down MK used the Les Paul instead of a strat (at least that is what my ears tell me), the only other time that happened I know of is Music for Montserrat 1997.
he played Wild theme on the Les Paul during the whole TV/radio promo tour in late 2000
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Those were the times... put out as an appetizer for the STP album, that maxi-CD had four tracks on it: What It is, Let's See You, Long Highway and Camerado.. pure quality!
I also fell in love with The Long Highway studio Version immediately with the first listen and agree that it is one of his very best songs! Connecting it live with Going Home back in 1996 was really a brilliant idea and a phantastic show closer. How surprised I was at the Hamburg show to get a new song at the end of an already more-than-phantastic concert! June 8th 1996 best concert I ever attended, I guess... Hey joko Servus und Moin!
LE
aaaahhh, camerado.....love that almost as much as LH...which everyone knows is almost my favourite song...
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Which IS your favourite song, then? ;D
LE
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mmmmmmm,..................
long highway
camerado
once upon a time (live)
where do you think...live 81 version
water of love, 90ies NHB version
single handed sailor
hand in hand
it never rains
your own sweet way
ride across the river
fade to black
you and your friend
how long
millionaires blues
kingdome come
no can do
don't you get it
are we in trouble now
gravy train
my claim to fame
what have i got to do
sailing to philly
el macho
let's see you
hill farmer
old pigweed
the ragpickers dream
sucker row
the trawlermans song
back to tupelo
everybody pays
whoop de doo
postcards
all that matters
don't crash the ambulance
border reiver
before gas and tv
so far from the clyde
get lucky
redbud tree
miss you blues
yon two crows
bluebird
blood and water
beryl
laughs
river towns
broken bones
long cool girl
lights of taormina
silver eagle
38 special
terminal of tribute to
wherever i go
oklahoma ponies
time will end all sorrows
i think i love you too much
silvertown blues
freeway flyer
the rocks and the thunder
stargazer
Once upon a time... Storybook love
wag the dog --> ALL
A shot at glory --> ALL
feel like going home
lonesome wind blues
poor boy blues
yakety axe
the next time i'm in town
there'll be some changes made
beachcombing
i dug up a diamond
donkey town
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now i know what to put on my next playlist.
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Very interesting is to check what is NOT in your list... apart from R&J ;D
LE