A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: jbaent on September 20, 2017, 07:21:27 PM
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http://bobdylan.com/news/bob-dylan-trouble-no-more-the-bootleg-series-vol-13-1979-1981-coming-november-3/
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http://bobdylan.com/news/bob-dylan-trouble-no-more-the-bootleg-series-vol-13-1979-1981-coming-november-3/
Too bad no infidels. Still, going to buy
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http://bobdylan.com/news/bob-dylan-trouble-no-more-the-bootleg-series-vol-13-1979-1981-coming-november-3/
Too bad no infidels. Still, going to buy
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http://www.expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?t=91567
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http://bobdylan.com/news/bob-dylan-trouble-no-more-the-bootleg-series-vol-13-1979-1981-coming-november-3/
Too bad no infidels. Still, going to buy
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http://www.expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?t=91567
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The complete tracklisting
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Imagine .. those Dylan fans... totally spoiled with these bootleg series and STILL moaning and dissappointed..
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylans-new-bootleg-series-will-spotlight-gospel-period-w502023
Imagine .. those Dylan fans... totally spoiled with these bootleg series and STILL moaning and dissapointed..
Moaning fans?
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I understand their moaning, there are many studio material from that years and instead using that material, most of the tracks are live versions...
I recall TWM talking about one unreleased track from Slow Train Coming that never saw the light, that is not in this bootleg series either...
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I recall TWM talking about one unreleased track from Slow Train Coming that never saw the light, that is not in this bootleg series either...
Do you havea name of that song? I only know 'Ye shall be changed' and 'Trouble in mind' (which in fact feature MK, however TIM is not unreleased but was a b-side of some vinyl single back then). I am surprised to hear that there might be more as even on the recording notes from the studio sessions that emerged some years ago in the web I do not recall seeing any unknown song.
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Can't remember, pottel?
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Very exciting, some of Bobs best, most passionate work (if you can put aside any theology that might annoy) - to hear new Knop takes will be a delight too.
I thought the track TWM cited was Ain't No Man Righteous, which is certainly on the tracklist now?
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Very exciting, some of Bobs best, most passionate work (if you can put aside any theology that might annoy) - to hear new Knop takes will be a delight too.
I thought the track TWM cited was Ain't No Man Righteous, which is certainly on the tracklist now?
Exactly, and I was wrong, it is included!
What I see is that the unreleased studio tracks are only available in the deluxes versions, the 2cd ones only have the live concerts... which are not of my interest at all!
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may get the box, but really looking forward to a possible infidels bootleg series....and yes, why not less live stuff and more demo's or outtakes from slow train?
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In Pottel we trust to compile for us just the studio versions with MK ;)
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Bobs live shows from this era are legendary. I have a compilation boot of various songs from various concerts, someone at Expecting Rain compiled, and it is truly wonderful. I agree with pottel though, there are two significant gaps in Bobs official bootleg eras now; Infidels & Blood on the Tracks, and studio outtakes are more desirable than multiple live discs.
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(http://i66.tinypic.com/r1yn4g.jpg)
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Too small to read :(
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Available today.
It's a pity there is not a standard edition with just the studio material with MK involved... I won't buy the expensive edition just for that...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRahiHDnkLQ
minute 4.30
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Looks like in Amazon you can buy individually the songs in which MK is featured. Probably in iTunes as well, I didn't checked it.
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If you look at the MK diary ( https://web.archive.org/web/20040502210409fw_/http://www.neck-and-neck.com:80/library/diary/diary02.html ), MK was involved in the Slow Train sessions from April to May 1979 so, from the deluxe editions there are only five songs in the disc three with MK:
5. "Gotta Serve Somebody" Take 1 - May 4, 1979
6. "When He Returns" Take 2 - May 4, 1979
7. "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One" (Unreleased song) Take 6 - May 1, 1979
8. "Trouble In Mind" Take 1 - April 30, 1979
9. "Ye Shall Be Changed" Outtake - May 2, 1979
All the rest look like they are played before or after, without MK and Pick Whiters
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If you look at the MK diary ( https://web.archive.org/web/20040502210409fw_/http://www.neck-and-neck.com:80/library/diary/diary02.html ), MK was involved in the Slow Train sessions from April to May 1979 so, from the deluxe editions there are only five songs in the disc three with MK:
5. "Gotta Serve Somebody" Take 1 - May 4, 1979
6. "When He Returns" Take 2 - May 4, 1979
7. "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One" (Unreleased song) Take 6 - May 1, 1979
8. "Trouble In Mind" Take 1 - April 30, 1979
9. "Ye Shall Be Changed" Outtake - May 2, 1979
All the rest look like they are played before or after, without MK and Pick Whiters
and if "when he returns" is same version as on the album, it's without Mark and Pick....
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Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One : first listen of this song. Is it Mark on the steel guitar ?
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If you look at the MK diary ( https://web.archive.org/web/20040502210409fw_/http://www.neck-and-neck.com:80/library/diary/diary02.html ), MK was involved in the Slow Train sessions from April to May 1979 so, from the deluxe editions there are only five songs in the disc three with MK:
5. "Gotta Serve Somebody" Take 1 - May 4, 1979
6. "When He Returns" Take 2 - May 4, 1979
7. "Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One" (Unreleased song) Take 6 - May 1, 1979
8. "Trouble In Mind" Take 1 - April 30, 1979
9. "Ye Shall Be Changed" Outtake - May 2, 1979
All the rest look like they are played before or after, without MK and Pick Whiters
and if "when he returns" is same version as on the album, it's without Mark and Pick....
It's a different take but just voice and piano, so no MK.
Just four songs.
But I'm not sure if Mk plays is that "trouble in mind" take as it's not listenable at all and in "ain't no man righteous" that slide sounds strange for MK so...
For sure, there are two tracks with MK, and other two doubtful.
From a deluxe version with so many CDs of a period that involved MK in one of the three records covered, there is very little of interest for MK fans here.
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Not enough of MK to be worth it as a MK material.
However it's possibly the greatest period of Krusty and we all love him, don't we ? :lol
I've listen to a few tracks and it's good so for me it sounds like a great Christmas gift ;)
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Not enough of MK to be worth it as a MK material.
However it's possibly the greatest period of Krusty and we all love him, don't we ? :lol
I've listen to a few tracks and it's good so for me it sounds like a great Christmas gift ;)
A nice gift is to have you back, B :wave
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Thank you ;D
It's good to read you and all the friends. ;D ;D ;D
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However it's possibly the greatest period of Krusty and we all love him, don't we ? :lol
Although I love Mark's work on slow train coming, I wouldn't say it's the greatest period of Mr Bob...
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However it's possibly the greatest period of Krusty and we all love him, don't we ? :lol
Although I love Mark's work on slow train coming, I wouldn't say it's the greatest period of Mr Bob...
Funny you pointed that out. ;D
I knew it would be controversial and I hesitated to add my opinion on the best pink floyd period ::)
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Having a listen now : (4 Knopfler tracks on Disc 3)
Some nice funky understated rhythm on Gotta Serve Somebody (take 1) , with a large "solo" type gap where you could imagine a solo break being overdubbed, but instead we have Marks clear rhythm part getting slightly funkier, nice but nothing to write home about :) The take itself is great and familiar stylish drumming by Pick!
Ain't No Man Righteous has understated slide guitar but its Becketts piano that is the limelight here. The book lists this as take 6, obviously no inspiration had hit Mark to do anything extra ordinary! There is a slither of a slight slide solo, again nothing special.
Trouble in Mind (take 1 - seems to be different to the take I regularly listen to that has gospel backing singers, which may in fact be a live track in hindsight!) just ordinary rhythm part from Mark.
Ye Shall Be Changed - same take from Bootleg vol3
So .... keep waiting for the Communique/Making Movies rare studio outtakes, no new Mark glories here; but one of the most interesting periods of Dylan history.
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In my opinion, there are too much live things here, and even in the non concerts ones, there are much more rehearsals and soundchecks for the concerts that studio outtakes.
Studio outtakes would had been great.
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Its the 'live' experience from this particular era of Dylans performances that makes it so legendary, putting aside any theology. But otherwise I agree, studio outtakes are usually illuminating.
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Here are 4 boxing songs featuring Mark Knopfler and Pick Withers :wave
Disc 3: Rare And Unreleased
3-5 Gotta Serve Somebody (Take 1 - 'Slow Train Coming' Studio Outtake - Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, Sheffield, AL - May 4, 1979)
Bass – Tim Drummond
Drums – Pick Withers
Guitar – Mark Knopfler
Keyboards – Barry Beckett
Written-By, Vocals, Guitar – Bob Dylan
3-7 Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One (Take 6 - 'Slow Train Coming' Studio Outtake, Unreleased Song - Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, Sheffield, AL - May 1, 1979)
Bass – Tim Drummond
Drums – Pick Withers
Guitar – Mark Knopfler
Keyboards – Barry Beckett
Percussion – Mickey Buckins
Written-By, Vocals, Guitar – Bob Dylan
3-8 Trouble In Mind (Take 1 - B-Side Studio Outtake - Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, Sheffield, AL - April 30, 1979)
Bass – Tim Drummond
Drums – Pick Withers
Guitar – Mark Knopfler
Keyboards – Barry Beckett
Written-By, Vocals, Guitar – Bob Dylan
3-9 Ye Shall Be Changed ('Slow Train Coming' Studio Outtake - Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, Sheffield, AL - May 2, 1979)
Bass – Tim Drummond
Drums – Pick Withers
Guitar – Mark Knopfler
Keyboards – Barry Beckett
Written-By, Vocals, Guitar – Bob Dylan
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some interesting information about Slow Train Comming recording here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Train_Coming
(Recording sessions)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngXC2rAjFKA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngXC2rAjFKA)
Here is the rhythmic signature of Knopfler and his guitar. Unmistakable!
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That version makes me think how great would had been a cd with different takes of the songs instead of so much live recordings.
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So much better than the album version! 8)
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That version makes me think how great would had been a cd with different takes of the songs instead of so much live recordings.
I fully agree!
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this version made me think to "Man of peace" by the same Mister Bob with the same Mark typical rhythm style