A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: rmarques821 on May 20, 2018, 03:07:15 AM
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Hey guys,
Are there any songs written by Mark that you feel you can't listen to (or listen to with some pain) because they are somehow attached to an estranged person, or a bad situation in your life?
Hill Farmer's Blues and especially Love Over Gold do that for me.
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Absolutely. Silver Eagle for me.
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For me it's more like attachment to certain periods in life. Like, Shangri-La album came out when I went to school, Kill To Get Crimson came out exactly when I were trying to get into university, then Get Lucky saved me from depression when I was dropped out of university. Privateering came out exactly when I met my future wife and so on. When people say, "Mark's music is the soundtrack of my life", they usually really mean that.
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The ragpickers dream and Shangri-la fit with two very different periods of my life, and there are songs that look to be written to reflect certain events that were happening to me. I feel very attached to them.
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Hey guys,
Are there any songs written by Mark that you feel you can't listen to (or listen to with some pain) because they are somehow attached to an estranged person, or a bad situation in your life?
Hill Farmer's Blues and especially Love Over Gold do that for me.
I guess I am the one with the biggest problem here and in the whole MK world, I hope anyone else' problem is much smaller.
I used to play the guitar (DS/MK songs) several hours a day until 1995 when I was 18 then apparently because of playing too much both my wrists had a problem which I never solved and basically I have never played again.
Since then I obviously had a big pain listening to anything related to DS/MK
but recently I passed the 40 yo old and the idea that the boy/professionist/artist playing with friends at 18/20/30/40 yo will never come back has saddened and humiliated me so much that I hardly listen to anything anymore, so to answer your question all songs are involved.
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Long Highway. no particular reason, it just hits me every time. also, hand in hand.
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I don't have this kind of problem of revisiting hard periods of my life, but yes there songs with particular meaning to me:
Private investigations - for some reason recalls me of my deceased father
Your latest trick - related to my first girlfriend
Brothers in arms - brings memory of a very dear teacher, more like a friend and mentor at my 20s
All the road running album - always related to my mother (she loves that album)
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Long Highway. no particular reason, it just hits me every time. also, hand in hand.
Probably LH for me too. Every time I hear it I think of Mr. P. Or R&J and his pee breaks! :smack
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Long Highway. no particular reason, it just hits me every time. also, hand in hand.
Probably LH for me too. Every time I hear it I think of Mr. P. Or R&J and his pee breaks! :smack
In Newcastle I checked the perfect formula to avoid that pee breaks. Last pint has to be consumed one hour before you enter to the venue as later, so you'll have that pee moment before the show starts, and no problems for the rest of the show!
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Long Highway. no particular reason, it just hits me every time. also, hand in hand.
Probably LH for me too. Every time I hear it I think of Mr. P. Or R&J and his pee breaks! :smack
In Newcastle I checked the perfect formula to avoid that pee breaks. Last pint has to be consumed one hour before you enter to the venue as later, so you'll have that pee moment before the show starts, and no problems for the rest of the show!
I drink too much to be able to do that
Nothing suits a pre break better than Romeo and J
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Long Highway. no particular reason, it just hits me every time. also, hand in hand.
Probably LH for me too. Every time I hear it I think of Mr. P. Or R&J and his pee breaks! :smack
In Newcastle I checked the perfect formula to avoid that pee breaks. Last pint has to be consumed one hour before you enter to the venue as later, so you'll have that pee moment before the show starts, and no problems for the rest of the show!
I drink too much to be able to do that
Nothing suits a pre break better than Romeo and J
sent from my Samsung Galaxy 9+ via tapatalk
By the time this next tour comes about it'll need to have a mid-set interval for Mark to have a pee break! :lol
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Funny enough most of musicians seems to have a pee break while Sultans, and I think it's a more appropriate song to do it anyway. Actual pee break gives me more pleasure than listening to the SOS for the millionth time. Next tour we will see Mark himself doing a pee break on Sultans! Remember my words.
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Long Highway. no particular reason, it just hits me every time. also, hand in hand.
Probably LH for me too. Every time I hear it I think of Mr. P. Or R&J and his pee breaks! :smack
In Newcastle I checked the perfect formula to avoid that pee breaks. Last pint has to be consumed one hour before you enter to the venue as later, so you'll have that pee moment before the show starts, and no problems for the rest of the show!
I drink too much to be able to do that
Nothing suits a pre break better than Romeo and J
sent from my Samsung Galaxy 9+ via tapatalk
I control myself and leave the drinks for the after show ;)
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Funny enough most of musicians seems to have a pee break while Sultans, and I think it's a more appropriate song to do it anyway. Actual pee break gives me more pleasure than listening to the SOS for the millionth time. Next tour we will see Mark himself doing a pee break on Sultans! Remember my words.
Given the lack of passion Mark's been displaying during Sultans I dare say that's his mid-show mental break. The body is there but his mind is somewhere else...
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Hey guys,
Are there any songs written by Mark that you feel you can't listen to (or listen to with some pain) because they are somehow attached to an estranged person, or a bad situation in your life?
Hill Farmer's Blues and especially Love Over Gold do that for me.
How much time do you have? lol Mark's music is such a huge part of my life that pretty much every milestone I experienced in life comes with one of his songs - if not a whole album.
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Funny enough most of musicians seems to have a pee break while Sultans, and I think it's a more appropriate song to do it anyway. Actual pee break gives me more pleasure than listening to the SOS for the millionth time. Next tour we will see Mark himself doing a pee break on Sultans! Remember my words.
Given the lack of passion Mark's been displaying during Sultans I dare say that's his mid-show mental break. The body is there but his mind is somewhere else...
I have a very hard time following what you both say, sultans is the song people in the audience go most nuts, at least here in Italy
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Funny enough most of musicians seems to have a pee break while Sultans, and I think it's a more appropriate song to do it anyway. Actual pee break gives me more pleasure than listening to the SOS for the millionth time. Next tour we will see Mark himself doing a pee break on Sultans! Remember my words.
Given the lack of passion Mark's been displaying during Sultans I dare say that's his mid-show mental break. The body is there but his mind is somewhere else...
I have a very hard time following what you both say, sultans is the song people in the audience go most nuts, at least here in Italy
We just talk about different things here. Of course SOS is THE song when it comes to Mark and dare I mention, that it got almost 50% in the poll on favourite songs on MKNews? From ALL of his songs. Some artists can't get out of stage without particular songs (Yesterday by Paul McCartney, The Sound Of Silence by Paul Simon, etc.), but Mark seems to keep Sultans in set just for the promoters, because THEY want it. Audience obviously want it, but all in all, the song is a bit *cough* *cough* overplayed.
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Sultans of swing... I recognize it's a hymn for the DS fans but, for me... The best I can say is that I don't dislike it.
I never understood the big deal of that song, it's good, yes, but for me DS have better songs, like Tunnel or Telegraph.
I had the back luck that in the tour SOS was dropped, I attended 4 shows and listened SOS 3 times. In the show where it wasn't played, I didn't missed it at all.
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Sultans of swing... I recognize it's a hymn for the DS fans but, for me... The best I can say is that I don't dislike it.
I never understood the big deal of that song, it's good, yes, but for me DS have better songs, like Tunnel or Telegraph.
I had the back luck that in the tour SOS was dropped, I attended 4 shows and listened SOS 3 times. In the show where it wasn't played, I didn't missed it at all.
I missed it at shows where it wasn't performed and I wish Mark embraced his hits like other artists do. He seems to resent them because they made him what he is today - arrogant and selfish. They made him, paid for his studio and he doesn't like to play them for his fans.
Whenever I listen to other artists being interviewed promoting their tours they speak about performing all their hits and how much they enjoy performing them. Mark can go on talk shows and speak about all the hits he'll play at his shows like Marbletown and Corned Beef City. :disbelief
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Sultans is my favorite song ever and that’s the very reason why it hurts hearing Mark play it so fastidiously.
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Sultans is my favorite song ever and that’s the very reason why it hurts hearing Mark play it so fastidiously.
Yes. If only he relished playing it as much as he enjoys watching John and Mike perform Marbletown etc. ::)
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Sultans is my favorite song ever and that’s the very reason why it hurts hearing Mark play it so fastidiously.
Yes. If only he relished playing it as much as he enjoys watching John and Mike perform Marbletown etc. ::)
True lol in fact I'm ok with the body of the song. My problem is with the soloing. It looks like when it gets to it Mark'd rather be locked in a room with Alan and David discussing the RRHOF induction setlist.
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Sultans is my favorite song ever and that’s the very reason why it hurts hearing Mark play it so fastidiously.
Yes. If only he relished playing it as much as he enjoys watching John and Mike perform Marbletown etc. ::)
True lol in fact I'm ok with the body of the song. My problem is with the soloing. It looks like when it gets to it Mark'd rather be locked in a room with Alan and David discussing the RRHOF induction setlist.
Now I get why the solos are always such a mess...
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
The biggest lesson you can learn from Mark is how to have this overwhelming kind of optimism like he does. Trust me, Mark would be successful even if he had NO arms at all. You can say, that Mark is an optimist because he's extremely successful, but actually, he's extremely successful because he's an optimist. Don't give up, look up, everything's fine. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Pessimism is our worst enemy.
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Probably, the song that has a most emotional attachment for me is "Whoop de doo", it reminds me of a bad moment in my life and the recovery, in concrete these parts:
So many little things
Are so much better now
They were only the little things
Anyhow
and
If I'm over the moon
It's because that's what I am
Funny that once
I used to give a damn
It's hard to listen to it without a little tear in my eye.
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
Trust me, Mark would be successful even if he had NO arms at all. You can say, that Mark is an optimist because he's extremely successful, but actually, he's extremely successful because he's an optimist.
oh please, what a bunch of nonsense
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
Trust me, Mark would be successful even if he had NO arms at all. You can say, that Mark is an optimist because he's extremely successful, but actually, he's extremely successful because he's an optimist.
oh please, what a bunch of nonsense
Go tell Mark, because that's exactly what he says about his success.
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
Trust me, Mark would be successful even if he had NO arms at all. You can say, that Mark is an optimist because he's extremely successful, but actually, he's extremely successful because he's an optimist.
oh please, what a bunch of nonsense
Go tell Mark, because that's exactly what he says about his success.
You might get lucky, now and then
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It all comes down to one's perception of what success is, don't you think? Optimistic people don't need much to be happy. That being said, it's easy to be an optimistic person when you're wealthy and... successful.
I don't really know where Mark fits in.
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
Trust me, Mark would be successful even if he had NO arms at all. You can say, that Mark is an optimist because he's extremely successful, but actually, he's extremely successful because he's an optimist.
oh please, what a bunch of nonsense
Go tell Mark, because that's exactly what he says about his success.
he also says he is a bad guitarist, we aren't really having this nonsense discussion, aren't we
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The thing is we already had this discussion with the same exact language being used, which means everybody will stand on their own.
I get your point, Pensa, I just think you pull it too much on the dark side, don't you think? Living a better life, etc.
Pessimism is a disaster!
For me guitar is an obsession, but not a destructive one. Guitar is just an instrument and if I'm not able to play it, which I barely do nowadays anyway, I simply do something else. I'm not destined to be a proper guitar player, so why bother? It's better not to be a guitar player at all, than to be a lousy one. Or better yet — be good in something else.
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
The biggest lesson you can learn from Mark is how to have this overwhelming kind of optimism like he does. Trust me, Mark would be successful even if he had NO arms at all. You can say, that Mark is an optimist because he's extremely successful, but actually, he's extremely successful because he's an optimist. Don't give up, look up, everything's fine. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Pessimism is our worst enemy.
Pessimism and optimism are overrated. They are just like religion; a set of hopes and beliefs. Realism is surely the true and honest way.
The pessimist complains about the rain; the optimist expects the sun to come out; the realist puts his umbrella up.
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Sometimes I wonder what if my problem had happened to MK, he would have been forced to stop playing at 18 and then what ?
where would he be and doing what ?
I surely would be living a much better life right now
The biggest lesson you can learn from Mark is how to have this overwhelming kind of optimism like he does. Trust me, Mark would be successful even if he had NO arms at all. You can say, that Mark is an optimist because he's extremely successful, but actually, he's extremely successful because he's an optimist. Don't give up, look up, everything's fine. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Pessimism is our worst enemy.
Pessimism and optimism are overrated. They are just like religion; a set of hopes and beliefs. Realism is surely the true and honest way.
The pessimist complains about the rain; the optimist expects the sun to come out; the realist puts his umbrella up.
Agree. Don't even know why the word pessimism was brought up by someone else. I only mentioned facts.
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Pessimism and optimism are overrated. They are just like religion; a set of hopes and beliefs. Realism is surely the true and honest way.
The pessimist complains about the rain; the optimist expects the sun to come out; the realist puts his umbrella up.
Agree. Don't even know why the word pessimism was brought up by someone else. I only mentioned facts.
I don't know what you both are talking about :lol
Your level of happiness really depends on the way you see the world. Pulling an umbrella when it's raining is a realistic way, but you can't do it with an absolutely straight face thinking of nothing, you either love it or hate it. Rain is just one example and how you see the world is important when you do anything. Especially when you have a certain disease on any stage and so on. You know, some people stay happy even when they have cancer or AIDS and literally just a few days left. That's optimism! And sometimes people like that can actually beat their disease with their optimism. The closest example — John Illsley.
And there's people like this old woman who lived downstairs from me, she's more than 100 years old and were always complaining about her health, telling things like "I don't want to live anymore", sometimes even screaming it. Not so many people can live for 100 years and here she goes, able to walk freely even without a cane, able to breath, able to talk, with a relatively clear mind, but "not wanting to live anymore". She's as dark as a human being can get, always talking about her problems, complaining and crying with no end. That's pessimism!
Bottom line — stop complaining, enjoy what you have. You gotta be happy to be successful, otherwise you're doomed to fail.
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I'm not a pessimist, optimist or realist - I just love the rain btw! ;D
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I'm not a pessimist, optimist or realist - I just love the rain btw! ;D
You got to love the rain.
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No emotional attachment to a MK song, really. But some lines in some songs ("...1867 my angel's gone to heaven" "we'd go with the flow when the weather was fine" "tell it to the breadline") are able to touch me once in a while.
LE
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I'm not a pessimist, optimist or realist - I just love the rain btw! ;D
You got to love the rain.
especially when it pours