A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Rkd on May 31, 2018, 07:30:10 PM
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This will probably only be meaningful to those of you who are fans of the FX show The Americans, but thought I would add it here.
https://slate.com/culture/2018/05/the-americans-finales-use-of-dire-straits-brothers-in-arms-was-perfect.html
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Here’s a post from Guy’s forum:
Doc,
A very nice rendition of BIA on the finally of “The Americans”.
Was that done for the show ? or taken from history ?
Very nice.
Regards, Rob
» http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/the-americans
GF: I remixed the track specially for it.
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I can’t view the show in my country so could someone do a favor and rip the new remix and share it with us?
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OK, so anywhere we can hear this version without having to watch the show?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIq7An6ocQM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIq7An6ocQM)
Try that. Not to different really, the length of it is though.
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New or until now unheard lick from 2:42 min on?
LE
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People standing around a grave in the dark ... really could have been any other song by any other artist ... absolutely no emotional connection here... but I admit I am totally not into TV series nowadays ... far too much stuff going on. Plus Sonny Crockett driving through Miami at night to the sound of Ride Across The River will be unbeaten forever! :lol
LE
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People standing around a grave in the dark ... really could have been any other song by any other artist ... absolutely no emotional connection here... but I admit I am totally not into TV series nowadays ... far too much stuff going on. Plus Sonny Crockett driving through Miami at night to the sound of Ride Across The River will be unbeaten forever! :lol
LE
Agreed...on all points!
How apt Miami Vice decided to use a BIA song after the SFA video release. :lol
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New or until now unheard lick from 2:42 min on?
LE
yes it seems that few bars were edited on the orginal release and reapeared here
same happened for STP on the PI comp
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People standing around a grave in the dark ... really could have been any other song by any other artist ... absolutely no emotional connection here... but I admit I am totally not into TV series nowadays ... far too much stuff going on. Plus Sonny Crockett driving through Miami at night to the sound of Ride Across The River will be unbeaten forever! :lol
LE
I'm into TV shows but I'm not familiar with this one in particular. However, it seems to be about the cold war so the lyrics might make sense in case you know the context, I don't know. Apparently the fans loved it so it might be the case.
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New or until now unheard lick from 2:42 min on?
LE
yes it seems that few bars were edited on the orginal release and reapeared here
same happened for STP on the PI comp
For such an classic and iconic song, to me it is nothing but spectacular to hear or detect something new and unheard on it!
LE
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New or until now unheard lick from 2:42 min on?
LE
yes it seems that few bars were edited on the orginal release and reapeared here
same happened for STP on the PI comp
Yeah, you can hear those licks in the original version during the Hammond solo. All Guy did here was juggling things around to achieve a better fit with the scene.
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Oh okay. Thanks!
LE
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New or until now unheard lick from 2:42 min on?
LE
yes it seems that few bars were edited on the orginal release and reapeared here
same happened for STP on the PI comp
For such an classic and iconic song, to me it is nothing but spectacular to hear or detect something new and unheard on it!
LE
Agree, Pretty cool this! :) Quite different from the original, between the verses.
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I think there are two things :
- different mix. so indeed Eddie is right, it's the part during the organ solo, but without the organ
- different editing : Guy took this part that features in the outro on the orignal and put it between two verses
I was wrong, it's not additional bars like for STP, it's just same bars but at a different place, and without the organ
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Quite a few changes ... around 1:10 as well.
The drums also sound slightly different in the mix and is Mark’s guitar amplified slightly?
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And why he had to do that mix? The song itself was not good enough?
It sounds like a copy and paste thing.
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They possibly asked to remix to make it fit exactly to the timing of scenes, hence the altering in the instrumental segments. And to lift the vocals/lead lines more to the foreground for the lyrics and melody to have more impact, at least so it seemed to me (albeit by casually listening to it once on my tablet).
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Lol, why this even exist? If you're a fan of Dire Straits and also a movie director, that doesn't mean you should start just adding their songs on top of everything. Looks like I'm watching a clip from a movie with "Brothers In Arms" playing in the next bar on my browser. Truly remarkable endeavor.
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Lol, why this even exist? If you're a fan of Dire Straits and also a movie director, that doesn't mean you should start just adding their songs on top of everything. Looks like I'm watching a clip from a movie with "Brothers In Arms" playing in the next bar on my browser. Truly remarkable endeavor.
Apparently the show in question is well known for using music in every episode and that became a big thing for the fans. It might sound meh to us because we don't follow the show and are not attached to it but I checked a fan forum yesterday and was happy to see they loved how the song worked. Brothers in Arms is obviously a song about war and so is the show, seems like a good fit to me.
Regarding the remix, it was absolutely necessary and happens quite often in the movie industry.
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“Mark Knopfler not only personally approved of using that song in the finale, but he and [Dire Straits keyboardist] Guy Fletcher actually helped us smooth out the use of the song by giving us access to their original recorded elements,” Weisberg revealed. “That really made a beautiful difference in the sequence.
https://quartzy.qz.com/1292542/two-of-the-greatest-montages-in-tv-history-are-linked-by-the-same-haunting-anthem/
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“Mark Knopfler not only personally approved of using that song in the finale, but he and [Dire Straits keyboardist] Guy Fletcher actually helped us smooth out the use of the song by giving us access to their original recorded elements,” Weisberg revealed. “That really made a beautiful difference in the sequence.
https://quartzy.qz.com/1292542/two-of-the-greatest-montages-in-tv-history-are-linked-by-the-same-haunting-anthem/
Random TV show phones up and asks if they can use a few seconds of one of his songs and he gives them access to the vaults. Loyal fans attending shows for decades and buying all the albums get diddly squat in terms of bonus material. >:(
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“Mark Knopfler not only personally approved of using that song in the finale, but he and [Dire Straits keyboardist] Guy Fletcher actually helped us smooth out the use of the song by giving us access to their original recorded elements,” Weisberg revealed. “That really made a beautiful difference in the sequence.
https://quartzy.qz.com/1292542/two-of-the-greatest-montages-in-tv-history-are-linked-by-the-same-haunting-anthem/
Random TV show phones up and asks if they can use a few seconds of one of his songs and he gives them access to the vaults. Loyal fans attending shows for decades and buying all the albums get diddly squat in terms of bonus material. >:(
Perhaps Mark is a fan of the show. In this case he is technically us ;D