A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Robson on June 08, 2018, 03:34:38 PM
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40 years...
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Time is a jetplane, it moves too fast.
...and still it sounds fresh and new. It's a timeless masterpiece.
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40 years later...
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What a fantastic debut album. I think it's interesting how they managed with such a sparse and minimalistic production to paint so dramatic/filmatic pictures. Obviously it owes much to Mark's excellent songwriting, but the music is spot on. In my opinion, they were much more than a pub band, or, as Mark likes to put it, a "little beat group".
I don't mean to derail the thread, but it would have been so wonderful to hear those four doing music together again (in a parallel universe where they all still were friends). They had that "band" thing, where the whole was greater than the sum of its parts. Oh, well.
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When I first listened to DS little did I know that band would change my life forever, and that album was the beginning of this evergoing journey.
Thanks for reminding us all of that :wave
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My first album was Brothers In Arms but I also felt that band would change my life. It happened...
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By the way, David looks really old on that photo (from 2017, I found out), or maybe he was ill? He looked very youthful for so long, unlike his brother.
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What a fantastic debut album. I think it's interesting how they managed with such a sparse and minimalistic production to paint so dramatic/filmatic pictures. Obviously it owes much to Mark's excellent songwriting, but the music is spot on. In my opinion, they were much more than a pub band, or, as Mark likes to put it, a "little beat group".
I don't mean to derail the thread, but it would have been so wonderful to hear those four doing music together again (in a parallel universe where they all still were friends). They had that "band" thing, where the whole was greater than the sum of its parts. Oh, well.
:thumbsup
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I prefer the photos from 40 years ago. ;)
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Like most people it was the BIA album that got me into DS, but it was their early music that made me a fan.
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Like most people it was the BIA album that got me into DS, but it was their early music that made me a fan.
In my case that was Alchemy, my brother had the vinyl and would play it every single day by our swimming pool when I was a kid. It got stuck somewhere in the back of my head. I was into brazilian pop-rock (some good stuff actually) at that time but as soon as I grew out of that I started to dig into Dire Straits and there was no going back. Alchemy again, BIA... and shortly afterwards the original version of Sultans from the MFN compilation. If I remember correctly that's how it went but I might be wrong, my memory isn't the most reliable source these days.
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Like most people it was the BIA album that got me into DS, but it was their early music that made me a fan.
In my case that was Alchemy, my brother had the vinyl and would play it every single day by our swimming pool when I was a kid. It got stuck somewhere in the back of my head. I was into brazilian pop-rock (some good stuff actually) at that time but as soon as I grew out of that I started to dig into Dire Straits and there was no going back. Alchemy again, BIA... and shortly afterwards the original version of Sultans from the MFN compilation. If I remember correctly that's how it went but I might be wrong, my memory isn't the most reliable source these days.
Beautiful memories Eddie
I had three beginnings. Love Over Gold cassette tape, but I deleted all tracks except Telegraph Road ... Walk of Life video clip and Brothers In Arms album.
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Has Mark ever played songs from the Dire Straits debut album during his solo tours (apart from Sultans Of Swing of course)?
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During HIS solo tours he played Water of Love. Setting Me Up was often played during the Notting Hillbillies shows however.
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Setting me up has been considered for his solo tours but never played.
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Setting me up as a solo tune? Maybe....but i suspect wild west end would suit the current touring style more....
Hearing down to the waterline would be a very nice addition to the setlist.....chucked in to revamp some of the mid set dull-ness....
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more likely, it would be a haul away to end the doldrums!
(just quoting) lol
i wouldn't mind though!
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Water Of Love - a good example of the Golden Heart tour. Definitely better than in the first years of the DS
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I think that six blade knife, wild west end and lions could suit his current style (at least musically)
he also played the eastbound train riff at a TV show some years ago
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I think that six blade knife, wild west end and lions could suit his current style (at least musically)
he also played the eastbound train riff at a TV show some years ago
Lyrically, I think SBK and WWE don't suit Mark well these days, SBK because it is too dark/sinister and WWE because it's very much a "young man's song". Lions could fit as it is an observation-type song. Would be wonderful to hear it again. The mood and atmosphere Lions creates/describes feel so real. Such an underrated/underplayed song.
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I can foresee Setting Me Up with nice duels between MK guitar, McCusker fiddle, McGoldrick flute and Richard lap steel
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Water Of Love - a good example of the Golden Heart tour. Definitely better than in the first years of the DS
Couldn't disagree more. Very boring and repetitive licks. Poor vocal by comparison to early versions too. Different tastes I suppose.
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I think that six blade knife, wild west end and lions could suit his current style (at least musically)
he also played the eastbound train riff at a TV show some years ago
Lyrically, I think SBK and WWE don't suit Mark well these days, SBK because it is too dark/sinister and WWE because it's very much a "young man's song". Lions could fit as it is an observation-type song. Would be wonderful to hear it again. The mood and atmosphere Lions creates/describes feel so real. Such an underrated/underplayed song.
I must admit I am not an expert regarding lyrics which are not in my language.
of course I understand the overwhole meaning/subject of the song but that's all
I was thinking more about the musical mood : regardding Mark's current musical style, I think that if he had to play some old songs, he should choose some "quiet" ones, with that JJ Cale groove
songs like news, follow me home, six balde knife, ballads like wild west end etc...
and I agree that setting me up could also fit his bluegrass/country style
but definitively, he shouldn't take uptempo songs like waterline, lady writer, angel of mercy, single handed sailor, or...tunnel of love. it's obviously not his musical style anymore
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I must admit I am not an expert regarding lyrics which are not in my language.
of course I understand the overwhole meaning/subject of the song but that's all
I was thinking more about the musical mood : regardding Mark's current musical style, I think that if he had to play some old songs, he should choose some "quiet" ones, with that JJ Cale groove
songs like news, follow me home, six balde knife, ballads like wild west end etc...
and I agree that setting me up could also fit his bluegrass/country style
but definitively, he shouldn't take uptempo songs like waterline, lady writer, angel of mercy, single handed sailor, or...tunnel of love. it's obviously not his musical style anymore
I agree with your points.
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I think that six blade knife, wild west end and lions could suit his current style (at least musically)
he also played the eastbound train riff at a TV show some years ago
Lyrically, I think SBK and WWE don't suit Mark well these days, SBK because it is too dark/sinister and WWE because it's very much a "young man's song". Lions could fit as it is an observation-type song. Would be wonderful to hear it again. The mood and atmosphere Lions creates/describes feel so real. Such an underrated/underplayed song.
I must admit I am not an expert regarding lyrics which are not in my language.
of course I understand the overwhole meaning/subject of the song but that's all
I was thinking more about the musical mood : regardding Mark's current musical style, I think that if he had to play some old songs, he should choose some "quiet" ones, with that JJ Cale groove
songs like news, follow me home, six balde knife, ballads like wild west end etc...
and I agree that setting me up could also fit his bluegrass/country style
but definitively, he shouldn't take uptempo songs like waterline, lady writer, angel of mercy, single handed sailor, or...tunnel of love. it's obviously not his musical style anymore
Lady Writer would be...interesting.
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I would like to hear the Water of Love. The 1996 version has a beautiful climate
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I think that six blade knife, wild west end and lions could suit his current style (at least musically)
he also played the eastbound train riff at a TV show some years ago
Lyrically, I think SBK and WWE don't suit Mark well these days, SBK because it is too dark/sinister and WWE because it's very much a "young man's song". Lions could fit as it is an observation-type song. Would be wonderful to hear it again. The mood and atmosphere Lions creates/describes feel so real. Such an underrated/underplayed song.
I must admit I am not an expert regarding lyrics which are not in my language.
of course I understand the overwhole meaning/subject of the song but that's all
I was thinking more about the musical mood : regardding Mark's current musical style, I think that if he had to play some old songs, he should choose some "quiet" ones, with that JJ Cale groove
songs like news, follow me home, six balde knife, ballads like wild west end etc...
and I agree that setting me up could also fit his bluegrass/country style
but definitively, he shouldn't take uptempo songs like waterline, lady writer, angel of mercy, single handed sailor, or...tunnel of love. it's obviously not his musical style anymore
Lady Writer would be...interesting.
yes linked with....Beryl ;)
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I think that six blade knife, wild west end and lions could suit his current style (at least musically)
he also played the eastbound train riff at a TV show some years ago
Lyrically, I think SBK and WWE don't suit Mark well these days, SBK because it is too dark/sinister and WWE because it's very much a "young man's song". Lions could fit as it is an observation-type song. Would be wonderful to hear it again. The mood and atmosphere Lions creates/describes feel so real. Such an underrated/underplayed song.
I must admit I am not an expert regarding lyrics which are not in my language.
of course I understand the overwhole meaning/subject of the song but that's all
I was thinking more about the musical mood : regardding Mark's current musical style, I think that if he had to play some old songs, he should choose some "quiet" ones, with that JJ Cale groove
songs like news, follow me home, six balde knife, ballads like wild west end etc...
and I agree that setting me up could also fit his bluegrass/country style
but definitively, he shouldn't take uptempo songs like waterline, lady writer, angel of mercy, single handed sailor, or...tunnel of love. it's obviously not his musical style anymore
Unless he does what Clapton has done to Layla a couple of times and changes the song's dynamics, chords and so on. I think that could work with Angel of Mercy or Down to the Waterline.
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Unless he does what Clapton has done to Layla a couple of times and changes the song's dynamics, chords and so on. I think that could work with Angel of Mercy or Down to the Waterline.
Also the original demo of Setting Me Up was very different to the final cut.
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Never noticed before that MK acts regularly in "Modern Family"
(https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/oneill__130617195727-275x368.png)
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I beg your pardon? Did I miss something?
LE
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I beg your pardon? Did I miss something?
LE
:lol
A bit random, isn't it?
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I beg your pardon? Did I miss something?
LE
:lol
A bit random, isn't it?
Actually, if you look the nowadays picture of MK posted in the first page of this thread, he looks pretty similar to Ed O'Neill... I find it funny.
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I beg your pardon? Did I miss something?
LE
:lol
A bit random, isn't it?
Actually, if you look the nowadays picture of MK posted in the first page of this thread, he looks pretty similar to Ed O'Neill... I find it funny.
That guy could walk past me in the street. I haven't a clue who he is. Modern Family I am aware is a popular modern day American "comedy," meaning completely unfunny PC nonsense with 1-dimensional characters.
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I still don't get why he turns up here. Where is the connection? Is there any MK music in that series?
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I still don't get why he turns up here. Where is the connection? Is there any MK music in that series?
LE
No
It might be because in recent pictures of MK with glasses, like the one postes in the first picture of this thread, MK has a look similar than actor Ed O'Neil.
There is a resemblance, in my opinion, funily, I also thought about it many times when I see this MK pictures with the glasses.
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Apart from the glasses, being white, male and older than 60 or so I would say resemblance 0 %...
LE
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Apart from the glasses, being white, male and older than 60 or so I would say resemblance 0 %...
LE
The big nose, round face, bold, the smile...
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Should have gone to Specsavers! :disbelief
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Should have gone to Specsavers! :disbelief
Had to google it ???
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Should have gone to Specsavers! :disbelief
Had to google it ???
It's an optician's advertisement and the punch-line is "should have gone to Specsavers"! :)
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Should have gone to Specsavers! :disbelief
Had to google it ???
It's an optician's advertisement and the punch-line is "should have gone to Specsavers"! :)
Yes, according to google there are shops in Spain in those areas where many British live, specially the Alicante's coast and Mallorca.
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I still don't understand what it has to do with this thread though. We were discussing songs from the debut album that could be performed today and then this picture popped up. :hmm
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I still don't understand what it has to do with this thread though. We were discussing songs from the debut album that could be performed today and then this picture popped up. :hmm
Because wayayman thought Mk picture looked like Ed O'Neill... An off topic like any other that use to happen in any thread.
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I still don't understand what it has to do with this thread though. We were discussing songs from the debut album that could be performed today and then this picture popped up. :hmm
Because wayayman thought Mk picture looked like Ed O'Neill... An off topic like any other that use to happen in any thread.
Why this particular thread though? I'm not being critical, just confused. A lookalikes thread of it's own might be rather fun! :)
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I still don't understand what it has to do with this thread though. We were discussing songs from the debut album that could be performed today and then this picture popped up. :hmm
Because wayayman thought Mk picture looked like Ed O'Neill... An off topic like any other that use to happen in any thread.
Why this particular thread though? I'm not being critical, just confused. A lookalikes thread of it's own might be rather fun! :)
Because someone in page 1 put the pictures of Ds members nowadays and the lookalike thing happened. Just a coincidence. This had happened in other threads eventually with people like Johan Cruyff from example, coming from nowhere