Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
(https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6309.0;attach=2990)
Good on You Son Mark Knopfler (5:37)
Ian Thomas, Drums
Lance Ellington, Background Vocalist
Beverley Skeete, Background Vocalist
Glenn Worf, Bass Guitar
Mark Knopfler, Guitar, Vocals
Jim Cox, Organ, Piano
Katie Kissoon, Background Vocalist
Tom Walsh, Trumpet
Danny Cummings, Percussion
Guy Fletcher, Synthesizer, Background Vocalist
LYRICS
Flash goes a little hummingbird
A darting, whirring thread
At the screen door by his lemon tree
Out here with the quick and the dead
Designer blinds above L.A.
Frame the perfect view
It’s going to be another day
Of sun and shameless blue
By his cutting block the time has come
For the fruit there by the juicer
He’s grinds fresh coffee for himself
He’s meeting a producer
The L.A.Times lies on the stone
Warming there like bread
Hey, what’s not to like out here
With the quick and the dead?
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two, yeah
Well, you want to know what happiness is?
In his eye there’s a hunter’s gleam
Something to look forward to
This cat’s gonna get the cream
The skin of a mango is so smooth
Smoother than the devil
Cut it, slice it, chop it up
To the rhythm of a Cockney rebel
Back in Blighty there’s a flat
On a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that
And went to the Golden State
Left the baccy and the beer
Where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here
With the quick and the dead
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
What would you’d have had him do?
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Yeah good on you son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two, yeah
© © 2018 Will D. Side Limited
℗ 2018 Will D. Side Limited
Ian Thomas, Drums
Lance Ellington, Background Vocalist
Beverley Skeete, Background Vocalist
Glenn Worf, Bass Guitar
Mark Knopfler, Guitar, Vocals
Jim Cox, Organ, Piano
Katie Kissoon, Background Vocalist
Tom Walsh, Trumpet
Danny Cummings, Percussion
Guy Fletcher, Synthesizer, Background Vocalist
LYRICS
Flash goes a little hummingbird
A darting, whirring thread
At the screen door by his lemon tree
Out here with the quick and the dead
Designer blinds above L.A.
Frame the perfect view
It’s going to be another day
Of sun and shameless blue
By his cutting block the time has come
For the fruit there by the juicer
He’s grinds fresh coffee for himself
He’s meeting a producer
The L.A.Times lies on the stone
Warming there like bread
Hey, what’s not to like out here
With the quick and the dead?
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two, yeah
Well, you want to know what happiness is?
In his eye there’s a hunter’s gleam
Something to look forward to
This cat’s gonna get the cream
The skin of a mango is so smooth
Smoother than the devil
Cut it, slice it, chop it up
To the rhythm of a Cockney rebel
Back in Blighty there’s a flat
On a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that
And went to the Golden State
Left the baccy and the beer
Where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here
With the quick and the dead
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
What would you’d have had him do?
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Yeah good on you son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two, yeah
© © 2018 Will D. Side Limited
℗ 2018 Will D. Side Limited
CHORDS: Good on you Son - by quizzaciously
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/good_on_you_son_chords_2475192
VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIBCHh-fMUE
https://youtu.be/JIBCHh-fMUE?t=2
A small piece of "Good on you son"
Taken from this forum:
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?t=75991536#
Post by: straitsway75 on September 17, 2018, 12:35:36 PM
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 12:38:31 PM
Should we ask Guy about it, better not.......
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 12:38:58 PM
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?act=Attach&type=post&id=624664183
Should we ask Guy about it, better not.......
NO
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 12:40:25 PM
A small piece of "Good on you son"
Taken from this forum:
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?t=75991536#
In the first moment I thought it was Early Bird :o
Post by: wespresso on September 17, 2018, 12:42:14 PM
A small piece of "Good on you son"
Taken from this forum:
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?t=75991536#
Oh man that les paul. It sounds really promising.
Where did that guy get it from??
Maybe the single?
Post by: superval99 on September 17, 2018, 12:42:43 PM
A small piece of "Good on you son"
Taken from this forum:
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?t=75991536#
In the first moment I thought it was Early Bird :o
It sounds familiar to me too - could be Early Bird? :think
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 12:43:06 PM
A small piece of "Good on you son"
Taken from this forum:
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?t=75991536#
In the first moment I thought it was Early Bird :o
Very similar in feel to Broken Bones too.
First reaction for me is rather mixed.
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 12:43:29 PM
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?act=Attach&type=post&id=624664183
Should we ask Guy about it, better not.......
NO
It was a joke ;D ;D Don’t worry :thumbsup
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 12:45:47 PM
I really like that Broken Bird song! ;D
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 12:47:05 PM
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 12:47:18 PM
https://www.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/good-on-you-son-8358292?f=3755903
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 12:53:58 PM
Folks in the UK can buy it here:
https://www.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/good-on-you-son-8358292?f=3755903
And Sweden.
Post by: wespresso on September 17, 2018, 12:55:36 PM
Folks in the UK can buy it here:Just bought it.
https://www.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/good-on-you-son-8358292?f=3755903
Listening now.
Let's go
Post by: binone on September 17, 2018, 12:55:52 PM
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 12:58:47 PM
Post by: wespresso on September 17, 2018, 01:00:02 PM
A lot of people will have mixed feelings about this.
But I dig it. A lot.
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
So it is not a leak. Good work from the promotionteam :smack
From the 7digital website: Release Date:07/09/2018
Good job, Mark (and team).
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 01:03:44 PM
Okay it is so different. Like, so different.
A lot of people will have mixed feelings about this.
But I dig it. A lot.
I'd say different is good. I may not always agree with Mark's choices, but as long as he is willing to explore new avenues, I'm happy.
Post by: crimmer on September 17, 2018, 01:04:03 PM
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 01:04:57 PM
Post by: Dutchessy on September 17, 2018, 01:11:22 PM
Post by: regmka on September 17, 2018, 01:13:35 PM
Post by: goon525 on September 17, 2018, 01:14:27 PM
Post by: rmarques821 on September 17, 2018, 01:14:55 PM
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Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 01:15:45 PM
Post by: dmg on September 17, 2018, 01:16:09 PM
Anyone any idea who the song is about? A guy that left the UK and went to America. "Camden shuffle" is a nice line - maybe a clue. Or "cockney rebel?"
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on September 17, 2018, 01:16:42 PM
If the rest of the album is like this song it's probably the most exciting stuff he released since ATTR.
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 01:17:36 PM
Just out of interest, anyone found the song on any of the streaming services yet?
With Tracker they gave Spotify the finger. So nothing can be expected there.
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 01:19:35 PM
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 01:20:35 PM
It's closer to DS than pipes and flutes.
Post by: olazabalrok on September 17, 2018, 01:22:59 PM
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 01:24:36 PM
Post by: El Macho on September 17, 2018, 01:27:08 PM
Post by: goon525 on September 17, 2018, 01:28:04 PM
Just out of interest, anyone found the song on any of the streaming services yet?
With Tracker they gave Spotify the finger. So nothing can be expected there.
That still leaves Tidal, Qobuz, Deezer, Apple, Amazon etc, etc. Or is MK so anti the principal modern way of listening to music that he won’t touch any of them?
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on September 17, 2018, 01:32:18 PM
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 01:32:36 PM
I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW WOW WOW
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The chorus is a little bit meh, but the song in full is absolutly mind blowing!!!!!
Post by: ruipedro on September 17, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 01:34:13 PM
Post by: binone on September 17, 2018, 01:36:25 PM
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on September 17, 2018, 01:38:58 PM
What guitar do you think he plays in this song?LP as lead guitar, Strat for the rhythm stuff
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: binone link=topic=6287.msg125926#msg125926 daåte=1537184185
What guitar do you think he plays in this song?
My Guess is the Gibson '58.
Post by: rmarques821 on September 17, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
Would also be a great opener for the 2019 tour!
Nope, it's gonna be Broken Bones again! ;D
Post by: straitsway75 on September 17, 2018, 01:44:26 PM
Post by: Solid Rock on September 17, 2018, 02:03:27 PM
Post by: PensaGhost on September 17, 2018, 02:09:35 PM
Post by: herlock on September 17, 2018, 02:10:31 PM
On a first listen I like it (I hardly ever disliked a MK song, save for Song for Sony Liston maybe) but not too excited by it.
But the songs I appreciate most always need to grow on me... Like News or Long Cool Girl...:) So I'll listen to it repeatedly and see.
Like the guitar, the drums and the Sax ! Nice combination !
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 02:11:10 PM
basically it's Early Bird 2.0
Yes. As I said, Broken Bird. ;D
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
That synths, that guitar, that break where MK is singing alone, that break with drums and percussion, when the sax suddenly comes and do a great solo...
My god... This song has everything, except pipes LOL
I LOVE IT
Post by: ruipedro on September 17, 2018, 02:26:54 PM
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on September 17, 2018, 02:28:16 PM
basically it's Early Bird 2.0
Yes. As I said, Broken Bird. ;D
All of them in the key of C minor, synths, the clean Strat, vocal mixing quite alike. Not a big fan of Broken Bones but I always thought Early Bird was one of the best tracks from the GL sessions. This new song is absolutely the best of the three!!
Post by: dmg on September 17, 2018, 02:28:43 PM
It's way better than Early bird...
That synths, that guitar, that break where MK is singing alone, that break with drums and percussion, when the sax suddenly comes and do a great solo...
My god... This song has everything, except pipes LOL
I LOVE IT
Yep. Way, way better. I loved it at first and it's actually growing on me! You can't not like this!!!
When the sax comes in it changes the mood of the song a little but then it changes back again. The song has so many layers to it. Guy's enjoying his new synths too and they sound great.
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 02:30:44 PM
It's way better than Early bird...
That synths, that guitar, that break where MK is singing alone, that break with drums and percussion, when the sax suddenly comes and do a great solo...
My god... This song has everything, except pipes LOL
I LOVE IT
Yep. Way, way better. I loved it at first and it's actually growing on me! You can't not like this!!!
When the sax comes in it changes the mood of the song a little but then it changes back again. The song has so many layers to it. Guy's enjoying his new synths too and they sound great.
I was working and took a break to go to my car and have a proper listen and when I went out of the car I couldnt believe myself...
Anything came as a big surprise, everything, the break with MK singing along, the drums and percussion break, the sax coming from nowhere... WOW
Yes, WOW
Post by: superval99 on September 17, 2018, 02:33:56 PM
I have just downloaded the whole song and have had just one listen so far. I feel it is a song that will grow and grow on me and they are the songs I prefer! Now back to a few more listens! :)
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 02:38:54 PM
Love your enthusiasm, jbaent! ;D
I have just downloaded the whole song and have had just one listen so far. I feel it is a song that will grow and grow on me and they are the songs I prefer! Now back to a few more listens! :)
I'm sure that I´m going to like more other songs from the record, i´m more a kind of "Seatle" or "Radio city serenade" person but, wow...
Post by: quizzaciously on September 17, 2018, 02:47:24 PM
I hate this "pop" intro though. Mark and this pop-delay is different planets to me, for this reason I can't listen to the Submariner ever again. Because of the pop music delays! But in the Submariner there's delays on the vocals to make things even worse. Mark, leave delay to pop stars!
The song definitely has some "He's the Man" vibes to it (which again is early 2000s song).
Bottom line: I like the more back to basics approach, although it was the case with Beryl and we got a completely different album, so let's see how the rest of the album will hold up. I don't think I want to re-listen Good On You Son though, but I'll give it another take for sure.
Post by: binone on September 17, 2018, 02:48:59 PM
Post by: superval99 on September 17, 2018, 02:49:59 PM
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 02:53:13 PM
Looks like an error. Now you cannot buy it anymore. It cannot be also searched to find it.
Still okay in Sweden.
Post by: Neville Sherman on September 17, 2018, 02:54:49 PM
Post by: vancip on September 17, 2018, 02:57:09 PM
Looks like an error. Now you cannot buy it anymore. It cannot be also searched to find it.
same thing in the Italian 7digital website. Bought the song 90 minutes ago, now it's unavaiable to download.
Post by: PensaGhost on September 17, 2018, 02:57:15 PM
Looks like an error. Now you cannot buy it anymore. It cannot be also searched to find it.
ya, it's gone here too
Post by: enrkaton82 on September 17, 2018, 02:57:35 PM
Anyone has noticed some backing female singers? Could be the Clapton vocalists who were recording at the British Groove?
Regards to everyone, specially to the good people who keeps this great forum alive
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 02:59:06 PM
Again, any chance of a link from anybody! I'm a Knopfler freak currently living in Vietnam and can not buy for some unknown reason. A response from anybody and I will mention you in my will! Neville
I would very much appreciate this too as it isn't (wasn't!) available in my region either.
Post by: PensaGhost on September 17, 2018, 03:00:28 PM
Post by: crimmer on September 17, 2018, 03:06:56 PM
Post by: dmg on September 17, 2018, 03:10:51 PM
Flash goes a little humming bird a dart and worried threat
At the screen door by his lemon tree out here with the quick and the dead
Designer blinds above LA frame the perfect view
It’s gonna be another day of sun and shameless blue
By his cutting block the time has come for the fruit there by the juicer
He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s meeting a producer
LA Times lies on the stone warming there like bread
Hey what’s not to like out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
You wanna know what happiness is in his eye there's a hunter’s gleam
Something to look forward to this cat’s gonna get the cream
Skin of a mango is so smooth it’s smoother than the devil
Cut it, slice it, chop it up to the rhythm of a cockney rebel
Back in Blighty there’s a flat on a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that and went to the Golden State
Left the baccy and the beer where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
What would you have had him do
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Post by: Adz on September 17, 2018, 03:13:18 PM
Post by: binone on September 17, 2018, 03:17:55 PM
At the screen door by his lemon tree out here with the quick and the dead
Designer blinds above LA frame the perfect view
It’s gonna be another day of sun and shameless blue
By his cut and block the time has come for the fruit there by the juicer
He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s beaten our producer
LA Times lies on the stone warming there like bread
Hey what’s not to like out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
You wanna know what happiness is in his eye is a hunter’s gleam
Something to look forward to this cat’s gonna get the cream
Skin of a mango is so smooth it’s smoother than the devil
Cut it, slice it, chop it up to the rhythm of a cockney rebel
Back in Blighty there’s a flat on a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that and went to the Golden State
Left the backie and the beer where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
What would you have had him do
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Post by: dmg on September 17, 2018, 03:24:51 PM
Post by: JF on September 17, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
I just could listen to the snippet once, and then nothing
Post by: holaknopfler on September 17, 2018, 03:29:33 PM
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 03:30:06 PM
Wonder who it is about? Musician or actor who moved from London to LA? Recent person?
Post by: PensaGhost on September 17, 2018, 03:30:20 PM
The intro is the best part then it seems a jumble without any sense of 20 different already heard songs (both DS/MK and disco stuff -.-),
almost irritating
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 03:32:56 PM
Still around. ;D
Post by: dmg on September 17, 2018, 03:36:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_yeBy-TNY
Post by: herlock on September 17, 2018, 03:53:24 PM
Post by: holaknopfler on September 17, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
Post by: lohstana on September 17, 2018, 03:59:01 PM
(please)
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 04:04:02 PM
Hello everyone! I am a member since 2012-2013, but i have never written before
Anyone has noticed some backing female singers? Could be the Clapton vocalists who were recording at the British Groove?
Regards to everyone, specially to the good people who keeps this great forum alive
I also noticed that women chorus...
Post by: Dutchessy on September 17, 2018, 04:08:37 PM
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 04:09:28 PM
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 04:09:37 PM
Does not seem to be available in France any more either. Gosh !!! What an amateurism !!!
Stil availible in the Netherlands
https://nl.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/good-on-you-son-8358292?f=3755903&origin=www
Post by: JF on September 17, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
nothing extraordinary, but just pleasant to listen to (at least for me)
Post by: Dutchessy on September 17, 2018, 04:10:55 PM
Does not seem to be available in France any more either. Gosh !!! What an amateurism !!!
Stil availible in the Netherlands
https://nl.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/good-on-you-son-8358292?f=3755903&origin=www
Not working...
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 04:12:38 PM
Does not seem to be available in France any more either. Gosh !!! What an amateurism !!!
Stil availible in the Netherlands
https://nl.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/good-on-you-son-8358292?f=3755903&origin=www
Not working...
It was 4 min ago ???
Now indeed gone :smack
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 04:14:53 PM
See you in November. :wave ;D
Post by: quizzaciously on September 17, 2018, 04:16:10 PM
Impossible to find it... Can someone send it to me by PM ?
(please)
What's the most legal way to share the song? I would do it, but I can't and don't want to write DMs to everybody.
After a couple of dozens of listens the song grows on me. Some things I still can't stand (DELAY :disbelief). But overall a very cool song!
Hello everyone! I am a member since 2012-2013, but i have never written before
Anyone has noticed some backing female singers? Could be the Clapton vocalists who were recording at the British Groove?
Regards to everyone, specially to the good people who keeps this great forum alive
I also noticed that women chorus...
I guess the best thing here is just to wait something *cough* *cough* official to confirm who the backing singers is.
Post by: lohstana on September 17, 2018, 04:29:35 PM
What's the most legal way to share the song? I would do it, but I can't and don't want to write DMs to everybody.
After a couple of dozens of listens the song grows on me. Some things I still can't stand (DELAY :disbelief). But overall a very cool song!
I understand, I will wait
Oh, aigain too much delay, as for "Beryl"... :-\
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 04:36:53 PM
Post by: Darling Pretty on September 17, 2018, 04:42:20 PM
Looks like an error. Now you cannot buy it anymore. It cannot be also searched to find it.
ya, it's gone here too
Yeah. Cannot find it on 7 digital worldwide. Can someone send me a pm please. Want to hear it soon if I can. Thx guys😉✌
Post by: K-alberto on September 17, 2018, 04:50:01 PM
Looks like an error. Now you cannot buy it anymore. It cannot be also searched to find it.
ya, it's gone here too
Yeah. Cannot find it on 7 digital worldwide. Can someone send me a pm please. Want to hear it soon if I can. Thx guys😉✌
Me too, guys, if anybody can... I'm kind of going crazy reading comments on something I can't listen to.. ???
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 04:51:09 PM
Post by: mon on September 17, 2018, 04:54:46 PM
Cannot get it and can't wait!!!!
:wave
Post by: holaknopfler on September 17, 2018, 05:02:24 PM
Post by: Adz on September 17, 2018, 05:03:37 PM
Post by: PensaGhost on September 17, 2018, 05:05:13 PM
This could be a great opener. The quick begin, middle percussion section, solo. IMHO ideal song to open a gig.
don't like the song but agree it could be used as opener live
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 05:06:32 PM
This could be a great opener. The quick begin, middle percussion section, solo. IMHO ideal song to open a gig.
No way. Too difficult. Too much details, too much work, too much time, and there is too much tea to drink...
Post by: holaknopfler on September 17, 2018, 05:09:46 PM
This could be a great opener. The quick begin, middle percussion section, solo. IMHO ideal song to open a gig.
No way. Too difficult. Too much details, too much work, too much time, and there is too much tea to drink...
Haha that doesn’t mean if MK works on it then it could be.. I’m trying to be positive this time after hearing this! I have good hope.
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 05:11:56 PM
This could be a great opener. The quick begin, middle percussion section, solo. IMHO ideal song to open a gig.
No way. Too difficult. Too much details, too much work, too much time, and there is too much tea to drink...
Haha that doesn’t mean if MK works on it then it could be.. I’m trying to be positive this time after hearing this! I have good hope.
In a studio you have all the time in the world and all the tricks. In live you have to do it all at the moment and work hard to play it.
I don't see it
Post by: holaknopfler on September 17, 2018, 05:13:05 PM
This could be a great opener. The quick begin, middle percussion section, solo. IMHO ideal song to open a gig.
No way. Too difficult. Too much details, too much work, too much time, and there is too much tea to drink...
Haha that doesn’t mean if MK works on it then it could be.. I’m trying to be positive this time after hearing this! I have good hope.
In a studio you have all the time in the world and all the tricks. In live you have to do it all at the moment and work hard to play it.
I don't see it
I know. But that goes for any song IMHO
Post by: TJ on September 17, 2018, 05:14:24 PM
Post by: jf9081 on September 17, 2018, 05:24:31 PM
Post by: Marijo58 on September 17, 2018, 05:30:00 PM
Looks like an error. Now you cannot buy it anymore. It cannot be also searched to find it.
ya, it's gone here too
Yeah. Cannot find it on 7 digital worldwide. Can someone send me a pm please. Want to hear it soon if I can. Thx guys
Me too, guys, if anybody can... I'm kind of going crazy reading comments on something I can't listen to.. ???
Envoyé de mon Moto C Plus en utilisant Tapatalk
Post by: wakeywakey on September 17, 2018, 05:31:43 PM
If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
Cheers.
Post by: Darling Pretty on September 17, 2018, 05:35:44 PM
A nice longer guitar solo instead would have been cooler.
But hey... no pipes. Really a kind of broken bird style. But I like it
Post by: boriszhukov on September 17, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
Post by: rosco on September 17, 2018, 05:42:21 PM
As one of my,surprisingly,exes used to say:"Well that didn't last long!"
If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
Cheers.
Me as well, if at all possible.
Thanks
Post by: Sultan of Swing on September 17, 2018, 05:43:31 PM
Post by: skydiver on September 17, 2018, 05:43:37 PM
You are mistaken.
Nobody from MK's staff is giving any information.
All we know comes from commercial sites who have released info that they were not yet authorized to do.
And that's why info and download option have disapeared again very quickly.
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
Post by: cannibals on September 17, 2018, 05:47:14 PM
They are playing with our nerves. Giving first an information on the album then putting one song on line... And shortly after making everything disappear!! Don't you think that somebody from MK's Staff is doing that on purpose... ????
You are mistaken.
Nobody from MK's staff is giving any information.
All we know comes from commercial sites who have released info that they were not yet authorized to do.
And that's why info and download option have disapeared again very quickly.
I understand but they can also put out a statement that the new album will be out on nov 2 ang give people the link for the download so they can already start making money...
How hard can it be......
Post by: K-alberto on September 17, 2018, 05:54:59 PM
Post by: Marijo58 on September 17, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
Ok not a member of MK's Site I agree but it's anyway a very strange method. I don't get it.. Maybe it's because I never got the chance to download it. Seems to be a beautiful song.. Too bad...They are playing with our nerves. Giving first an information on the album then putting one song on line... And shortly after making everything disappear!! Don't you think that somebody from MK's Staff is doing that on purpose... ????
You are mistaken.
Nobody from MK's staff is giving any information.
All we know comes from commercial sites who have released info that they were not yet authorized to do.
And that's why info and download option have disapeared again very quickly.
I understand but they can also put out a statement that the new album will be out on nov 2 ang give people the link for the download so they can already start making money...
How hard can it be......
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Post by: Jasper90 on September 17, 2018, 06:04:39 PM
I feel sorry to be also one of million people to ask this question ;D. Thanks in advance!
Post by: naif on September 17, 2018, 06:06:07 PM
Good song. That's it imho.
Post by: Silvertown on September 17, 2018, 06:09:58 PM
Post by: henk1951 on September 17, 2018, 06:22:40 PM
Post by: superval99 on September 17, 2018, 06:26:39 PM
Anyone got the lyrics yet? Think I managed to get most of them except for a couple at the start. Feel free to correct me.
Flash goes a little humming bird a dart and worried thread
At the screen door by his lemon tree out here with the quick and the dead
Designer blinds above LA frame the perfect view
It’s gonna be another day of sun and shameless blue
By his cut and block the time has come for the fruit there by the juicer
He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s beaten our producer
LA Times lies on the stone warming there like bread
Hey what’s not to like out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
You wanna know what happiness is in his eye is a hunter’s gleam
Something to look forward to this cat’s gonna get the cream
Skin of a mango is so smooth it’s smoother than the devil
Cut it, slice it, chop it up to the rhythm of a cockney rebel
Back in Blighty there’s a flat on a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that and went to the Golden State
Left the backie and the beer where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
What would you have had him do
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
In the second verse, do you think it could be "cutting block" ?
Post by: dmg on September 17, 2018, 06:29:36 PM
In the second verse, do you think it could be "cutting block" ?
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Seems more likely. Thanks Val.
Post by: Silvertown on September 17, 2018, 06:41:37 PM
Post by: lfblaauw on September 17, 2018, 06:57:30 PM
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 07:03:13 PM
How do you describe the song soundwise? How is mixing? Drums far on the back?
Drums are not too far back, and it sounds like there's some room ambience mixed in with the drums. Overall the sound is slightly dry, but there's a lot of detail and layers, so I'm looking forward to playing the CD on my hifi. Mark's vocals have some kind of slapback echo, which I find a little artifical.
Post by: kaleo74 on September 17, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
If someone can PM me the song would be appreciated, want to know what are talking about here lol
Thank you
Post by: DS on September 17, 2018, 07:07:43 PM
Hi guys,
If someone can PM me the song would be appreciated, want to know what are talking about here lol
Thank you
I'd love a PM too... each message talking about the song is a torture!! ;D
Thanks!
Post by: Silvertown on September 17, 2018, 07:08:49 PM
How do you describe the song soundwise? How is mixing? Drums far on the back?
Drums are not too far back, and it sounds like there's some room ambience mixed in with the drums. Overall the sound is slightly dry, but there's a lot of detail and layers, so I'm looking forward to playing the CD on my hifi. Mark's vocals have some kind of slapback echo, which I find a little artifical.
Thanks! I love these first impressions and feeling of the song.
Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 07:11:16 PM
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 07:18:55 PM
Post by: DS on September 17, 2018, 07:26:42 PM
Post by: PensaGhost on September 17, 2018, 07:31:57 PM
Post by: Eddie Fox on September 17, 2018, 07:39:32 PM
Post by: DS on September 17, 2018, 07:40:08 PM
I think it's unlistenable but glad most of you are happy with it :)
The worst parts imho are the sax and that thing at 2:24... but I really love the beginning!
Post by: H97 on September 17, 2018, 07:49:08 PM
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 07:49:26 PM
Redbud Tree
Golden Heart/ What It Is
Border Reiver
Beryl
Good On You Son/Why Aye Man
True Love Will Never Fade
Boom, Like That
Post by: mon on September 17, 2018, 07:50:51 PM
I am surprised by this song. Positively. It is completely different from earlier ones. This modern electronics at the beginning. We've heard something similar (Basil) but here the scale is bigger. Mark is in great shape.I think you're right. Sounds like Mark's strato using Adrenalinn3 just like he used on Basil.
Perfect!!!!!!!
Post by: quizzaciously on September 17, 2018, 07:52:57 PM
I think I hear a triangle in the mix too.
First triangle in Mark's music after Je Suis Désolé?
By the way, who also thinks that song deserves a fade out?
And how this song is not on YouTube already? :hmm :hmm :hmm
Post by: H97 on September 17, 2018, 07:56:56 PM
Post by: superval99 on September 17, 2018, 07:58:33 PM
Post by: jbaent on September 17, 2018, 08:07:42 PM
I love the part around 3'22 where the guitar leads into the sax - wonderful! :)
With the women chorus
Post by: quizzaciously on September 17, 2018, 08:07:53 PM
Post by: dmg on September 17, 2018, 08:09:55 PM
I love the part around 3'22 where the guitar leads into the sax - wonderful! :)
Yeah. That's the real thing right there. A great mix of instruments in this song that add different layers to the music. Fade out would've been nice though; ends rather abruptly.
I've been listening to this on loop since I downloaded it, stopping only for Antiques Road Trip and dinner! ;D
Post by: Vesper on September 17, 2018, 08:11:44 PM
As said, the song has a lot of layers which is very interesting. The sax really comes out of nowhere.
I also seem to hear female background singing? Interesting to see the credits later.
A good radio edit might even get MK some notice on the radio!
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 08:12:07 PM
Post by: boriszhukov on September 17, 2018, 08:14:24 PM
I am surprised by this song. Positively. It is completely different from earlier ones. This modern electronics at the beginning. We've heard something similar (Basil) but here the scale is bigger. Mark is in great shape.I think you're right. Sounds like Mark's strato using Adrenalinn3 just like he used on Basil.
Perfect!!!!!!!
which parts of Basil is the adrenalinn?
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 08:25:20 PM
I am surprised by this song. Positively. It is completely different from earlier ones. This modern electronics at the beginning. We've heard something similar (Basil) but here the scale is bigger. Mark is in great shape.I think you're right. Sounds like Mark's strato using Adrenalinn3 just like he used on Basil.
Perfect!!!!!!!
which parts of Basil is the adrenalinn?
This effect gently scrolls the entire song.
Post by: mon on September 17, 2018, 08:25:46 PM
The delayed notes in perfect tempo done with the MK signature. I think he used the same on first repetitive notes of Good on you son.I am surprised by this song. Positively. It is completely different from earlier ones. This modern electronics at the beginning. We've heard something similar (Basil) but here the scale is bigger. Mark is in great shape.I think you're right. Sounds like Mark's strato using Adrenalinn3 just like he used on Basil.
Perfect!!!!!!!
which parts of Basil is the adrenalinn?
Post by: Pasc' on September 17, 2018, 08:31:07 PM
Post by: superval99 on September 17, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
Post by: Marijo58 on September 17, 2018, 08:50:46 PM
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Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 08:55:05 PM
Do I detect a few notes of "Going Home" at 5'13?
You're right. And just before that, there's some notes from another song. I just can't pinpoint which one. Ride Across the River? I don't think they are deliberate references, though.
Post by: Pasc' on September 17, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
= Four in a Row, 5" (A shot at Glory)
Post by: Pottel on September 17, 2018, 09:15:26 PM
After listening to it i have to say:
I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW WOW WOW
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The chorus is a little bit meh, but the song in full is absolutly mind blowing!!!!!
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Post by: Pottel on September 17, 2018, 09:19:51 PM
Hello everyone! I am a member since 2012-2013, but i have never written beforeYup, well spotted
Anyone has noticed some backing female singers? Could be the Clapton vocalists who were recording at the British Groove?
Regards to everyone, specially to the good people who keeps this great forum alive
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Post by: hunter on September 17, 2018, 09:34:42 PM
also, all of you MUST buy the album!
Totally.
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on September 17, 2018, 09:36:42 PM
After some more listening, the lead guitar might be the Blue Pensa.What guitar do you think he plays in this song?LP as lead guitar, Strat for the rhythm stuff
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 17, 2018, 09:52:36 PM
Post by: Pottel on September 17, 2018, 10:00:16 PM
Nice to see some new names asking for the track, stick around and join in the discussion please!Indeed.no Grab and run pls
Also, did I mention, order the album!
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Post by: H97 on September 17, 2018, 10:04:10 PM
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 17, 2018, 10:07:27 PM
PS Hello to GF and people from MKs management, anyone asking for the track is what you would call a get a lifer and will almost certainly buy the record so no lawyers please.
can I have a pm too?!?!?Last three handled.
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Post by: dvschend on September 17, 2018, 10:08:46 PM
Post by: quizzaciously on September 17, 2018, 10:14:55 PM
Nice to see some new names asking for the track, stick around and join in the discussion please!Indeed.no Grab and run pls
Also, did I mention, order the album!
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How can people order the album if there's no any official news yet? :lol
Yet we already heard a song, know all the titles, the cover, and yet...
Post by: Marijo58 on September 17, 2018, 10:17:53 PM
Nice to see some new names asking for the track, stick around and join in the discussion please!Indeed.no Grab and run pls
Also, did I mention, order the album!
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How can people order the album if there's no any official news yet?
Yet we already heard a song, know all the titles, the cover, and yet...
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Post by: wakeywakey on September 17, 2018, 10:24:50 PM
Post by: Robson on September 17, 2018, 10:28:24 PM
Post by: ingridswing on September 17, 2018, 10:37:18 PM
Who could be a magnificent soul, and could send the track on PM or email? I won't sleeeeeeep !! :)) Thank you and Vive MK !!
THANK YOU !! Got it !!! Great !!
I hope you keep on posting here. We love to have fans around here. Not only the grab and run.
Post by: Millionaire Blues on September 17, 2018, 10:39:38 PM
Post by: Darling Pretty on September 17, 2018, 10:45:23 PM
What a refreshing track...it's like he has just let loose completely...it's everything mk doesn't normally do...and it's amazing!!!
A lot of Guy Fletcher in here I would say
Post by: Leprechaun on September 17, 2018, 10:47:12 PM
Post by: calle on September 17, 2018, 10:55:21 PM
🙏👍😃
Post by: border_reiver on September 17, 2018, 11:11:56 PM
I hope you keep on posting here. We love to have fans around here. Not only the grab and run.
:thumbsup
Post by: quizzaciously on September 17, 2018, 11:13:35 PM
What a refreshing track...it's like he has just let loose completely...it's everything mk doesn't normally do...and it's amazing!!!
A lot of Guy Fletcher in here I would say
So much Guy in some songs that he can easily gain a songwriter credit. But Mark get over it by giving him producer rights :lol
Post by: Julie72 on September 17, 2018, 11:41:28 PM
Post by: ingridswing on September 17, 2018, 11:43:31 PM
Thank you very much, it's quite an unexpected song, I guess I'll have to listen quite a bit to let it grow on me...
Please come back to discuss it.
Post by: Julie72 on September 17, 2018, 11:49:27 PM
Please come back to discuss it.
To be honest, I'm a little bit disappointed... I find the drums quite painful, but I'm biased, I never really liked Ian Thomas. Too monolithic. I will always regret Pick Withers, he was the best one for Marks songs, I think :'(
The sound is also a little bit "messy", but it's maybe the MP3 file, it would be safer to wait for the lossless version.
Post by: ingridswing on September 18, 2018, 12:07:51 AM
You also hear Danny Cummings on percussion, MK didn't use real percussion for a while. That could also feel different to you.
By the way, Danny was my favorite drummer, so clean and crispy, for me at least. But as always, tastes differs.
Thanks for your feedback, hope to see you more often here in the future.
Post by: ds1984 on September 18, 2018, 12:09:02 AM
I will wait for the album to be out.
Post by: goon525 on September 18, 2018, 12:11:58 AM
On another matter, the song itself is growing on me with each listen, though it still feels a bit like several different songs - the intro not very connected to the main song, the drum break in the middle which is very unKnopflerish. The funky beat drives the whole thing along pretty effectively though.
Post by: Pyroaction on September 18, 2018, 12:36:17 AM
Nigel can do miracles (like on Wherever I Go in live where sax was responding to the guitar), definitely not on that track.
This song should have been a bonus track, not a single.
Post by: Adz on September 18, 2018, 12:37:50 AM
Post by: jabbathehut on September 18, 2018, 12:59:00 AM
Post by: Sich74 on September 18, 2018, 02:10:05 AM
You know the man just turned 69. I will cherish and celebrate every single thing I'll get from him from now on.
Post by: kaleo74 on September 18, 2018, 02:23:53 AM
it a mix between Early bird and No Can Do.
Great job form Ianto and Glenn and the wizard Guy did the rest
Post by: K-alberto on September 18, 2018, 07:12:19 AM
Song still growing, by the way! :thumbsup
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 07:18:56 AM
I’m listening to the 16/44 FLAC file which is CD quality. I also think it sounds a bit messy, with very little stereo spread. Also Mark's vocals are a bit buried and can be difficult to make out (well done to whoever published the full lyrics!). Although in theory what I purchased should be the same sound quality as what we will eventually hear on the album, I’m wondering if that’s really the case - Mark and Guy usually take a lot of care over sound.
On another matter, the song itself is growing on me with each listen, though it still feels a bit like several different songs - the intro not very connected to the main song, the drum break in the middle which is very unKnopflerish. The funky beat drives the whole thing along pretty effectively though.
I have only listened to it through (good quality) headphones, and I think the stereo spread is wide. They have panned the synths and organ to the far left and right. The kick drum sounds big and fat, and the use of bright percussive instruments (triangle etc.) should mean the soundstage should be tall as well.
Interesting to note Mark's vocals during the middle part, the slapback effect fades in and out, making Mark move from the back to the front. Guy has clearly had a lot of fun with this track.
As someone said, it's not a masterpiece, but it's very listenable, and I'm sure it will get a lot of radioplay.
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 07:24:00 AM
Am I the only one who don't hear any female backing vocals? It seems to me the usual Knopfler-Fletcher armony.
Song still growing, by the way! :thumbsup
It's subtle. Listen around 3:19-20. On closer listen, though, it may just as well be male backing vocals, but it's not Mark or Guy.
Post by: Love Expresso on September 18, 2018, 07:52:34 AM
LE
Post by: jbaent on September 18, 2018, 08:04:05 AM
I like a lot this single, specially the arrangements, very funky.
But the rest of the record could be more similar to what MK uses to do these days, let's wait.
Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 08:38:36 AM
Just before the sax startsAm I the only one who don't hear any female backing vocals? It seems to me the usual Knopfler-Fletcher armony.
Song still growing, by the way! :thumbsup
It's subtle. Listen around 3:19-20. On closer listen, though, it may just as well be male backing vocals, but it's not Mark or Guy.
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Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 08:39:18 AM
The opposite of Heart of Oak in many ways: No depth at all, wether lyrically nor musically, overloaded but boring, too long, dull and uninspired, only disguised and covered with many funky gimmick stuff. Sax does not fit at all and turns out to be the major misconception in MK's recent work in general. A poor copy of Early Bird which was much more original and better. Probably pasted together on one afternoon. This obvious lack of inspiration makes me not exactly looking forward to the album with a lot of exitement. A cold shower after all this waiting. 3/10Lol, you must be fun at parties. Just kidding, everyone has the right to their opinion.
LE
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Post by: quizzaciously on September 18, 2018, 09:05:25 AM
The opposite of Heart of Oak in many ways: No depth at all, wether lyrically nor musically, overloaded but boring, too long, dull and uninspired, only disguised and covered with many funky gimmick stuff. Sax does not fit at all and turns out to be the major misconception in MK's recent work in general. A poor copy of Early Bird which was much more original and better. Probably pasted together on one afternoon. This obvious lack of inspiration makes me not exactly looking forward to the album with a lot of exitement. A cold shower after all this waiting. 3/10Lol, you must be fun at parties. Just kidding, everyone has the right to their opinion.
LE
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Me personally, I really get much more fun out of Heart Of Oak rather than out of this single or Beryl rockers.
People call me nerd, but I'm absolutely fine with it. And this song... Thanks LE for printing out my thoughts.
Post by: boriszhukov on September 18, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
I’m listening to the 16/44 FLAC file which is CD quality. I also think it sounds a bit messy, with very little stereo spread. Also Mark's vocals are a bit buried and can be difficult to make out (well done to whoever published the full lyrics!). Although in theory what I purchased should be the same sound quality as what we will eventually hear on the album, I’m wondering if that’s really the case - Mark and Guy usually take a lot of care over sound.
On another matter, the song itself is growing on me with each listen, though it still feels a bit like several different songs - the intro not very connected to the main song, the drum break in the middle which is very unKnopflerish. The funky beat drives the whole thing along pretty effectively though.
They are clearly tryin' to do something new. I give them ALOT of credit for that.
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 09:17:20 AM
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
They are clearly tryin' to do something new. I give them ALOT of credit for that.
Fully agree. :thumbsup
But there's almost a full record left.
For all we know this might even be a bonus track.
Post by: Pyroaction on September 18, 2018, 09:22:53 AM
A poor copy of Early Bird which was much more original and better.A good think in Early Bird I: it was shorter (only 2"40 versus 5"37 for the second season)
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 09:23:36 AM
They are clearly tryin' to do something new. I give them ALOT of credit for that.
Ditto.
Tracker is very mellow, so something more upbeat, and even 'radio friendly', this time is welcome change. I'm not against folk-based music at all, but in Mark's case, the folk idiom has been overused, in my opinion.
Post by: jbaent on September 18, 2018, 09:24:19 AM
LOL
Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 09:26:42 AM
Do any of you thought that this time I would be the positive one?Never
LOL
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Post by: Dutchessy on September 18, 2018, 09:31:51 AM
A poor copy of Early Bird which was much more original and better.A good think in Early Bird I: it was shorter (only 2"40 versus 5"37 for the second season)
Early Bird was also 5.30...
Post by: Dutchessy on September 18, 2018, 10:00:32 AM
It seems PCM delayed it on purpose, but for how long? ;)
Post by: K-alberto on September 18, 2018, 10:19:02 AM
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 10:23:56 AM
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 11:07:00 AM
What is the Camden shuffle anyway? And who may the Cockney rebel be, that Mark refers to? Ray Davies (Kinks)?
Camden Shuffle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_yeBy-TNY
Cockney Rebel is a band with singer Steve Harley, best known for "Come up and see me, make me smile" :) Maybe Mark is referring to him, maybe another Cockney rebel! :)
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 18, 2018, 11:09:25 AM
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
And who joined and toured with Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel in the late 70's? A certain Guy Fletcher.
Wow, I didn't know that, James! You learn something every day! ;D
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 11:16:05 AM
Camden Shuffle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_yeBy-TNY
Cockney Rebel is a band with singer Steve Harley, best known for "Come up and see me, make me smile" :) Maybe Mark is referring to him, maybe another Cockney rebel! :)
I saw that clip earlier, but is that dance a 'thing'? Or is is just a random old man doing some random dance moves? Can't find any references online to a particular dance called the Camden Shuffle. Maybe it's just an obscure reference that Mark has stolen from a book, not very unlikely.
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 11:19:13 AM
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 11:28:40 AM
Maybe it's just an old man doing his own thing! I hadn't heard of it before now! :)
I doubt Mark watched that clip and decided to add that expression to a song ha-ha
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 18, 2018, 11:55:33 AM
It's somebody who has moved from a dodgy estate in London to California.
Could be a musician, a film maker (editing) or even a chef?!
Post by: Fletch on September 18, 2018, 11:57:22 AM
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 12:06:14 PM
I'm left wondering if MK considers Early Bird such an obscure song that he has no qualms resurrecting its rhythm & melody? Interesting.
Given the fact that Jim Cox had to remind him that he wrote "She's gone" for Metroland I'm not sure he knows he ever did it. ;D
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 12:06:56 PM
So
It's somebody who has moved from a dodgy estate in London to California.
Could be a musician, a film maker (editing) or even a chef?!
Yeah. It doesn't appear very specific at first glance. We have Camden and Cockney. Then LA (California). We have the producer and screen door (film/TV?). Cutting block, juicer etc. could indicate TV chef?
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
old one-two:
a series of two punches delivered quickly, one after another. Example: Tom gave Bill the old one-two, and the argument was ended right there. Watch out for Tom. He's a master of the old one-two.
Post by: Dutchessy on September 18, 2018, 12:12:41 PM
So
It's somebody who has moved from a dodgy estate in London to California.
Could be a musician, a film maker (editing) or even a chef?!
Yeah. It doesn't appear very specific at first glance. We have Camden and Cockney. Then LA (California). We have the producer and screen door (film/TV?). Cutting block, juicer etc. could indicate TV chef?
Gordon Ramsey?
He is from Glasgow, and does have a restaurant in LA + different USA cook shows
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 12:12:55 PM
Yeah. It doesn't appear very specific at first glance. We have Camden and Cockney. Then LA (California). We have the producer and screen door (film/TV?). Cutting block, juicer etc. could indicate TV chef?
Screen door is just this, isn't it?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR80bJO-FNXy_I6eRVRgWxZ60fwwHZ6WrEnajVVste6VG3WyqRUTg)
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 12:22:00 PM
Yeah. It doesn't appear very specific at first glance. We have Camden and Cockney. Then LA (California). We have the producer and screen door (film/TV?). Cutting block, juicer etc. could indicate TV chef?
Screen door is just this, isn't it?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR80bJO-FNXy_I6eRVRgWxZ60fwwHZ6WrEnajVVste6VG3WyqRUTg)
Well it can be any kind like that yes. Ones that block noise or section areas in the studio? My mind was thinking beyond that really and into one of these huge trailers they give them too. Should've explained.
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 12:24:26 PM
So
It's somebody who has moved from a dodgy estate in London to California.
Could be a musician, a film maker (editing) or even a chef?!
Yeah. It doesn't appear very specific at first glance. We have Camden and Cockney. Then LA (California). We have the producer and screen door (film/TV?). Cutting block, juicer etc. could indicate TV chef?
Gordon Ramsey?
He is from Glasgow, and does have a restaurant in LA + different USA cook shows
The Glasgow-born thing put me off. I thought Jamie Oliver or Gary Rhodes may be a better bet.
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 12:26:53 PM
Yeah. It doesn't appear very specific at first glance. We have Camden and Cockney. Then LA (California). We have the producer and screen door (film/TV?). Cutting block, juicer etc. could indicate TV chef?
Screen door is just this, isn't it?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR80bJO-FNXy_I6eRVRgWxZ60fwwHZ6WrEnajVVste6VG3WyqRUTg)
Well it can be any kind like that yes. Ones that block noise or section areas in the studio? My mind was thinking beyond that really and into one of these huge trailers they give them too. Should've explained.
I took it as a screen door leading into the person's garden (nearby the lemon tree). They guy is at his home overlooking LA.
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 12:30:41 PM
I took it as a screen door leading into the person's garden (nearby the lemon tree). They guy is at his home overlooking LA.
Probably right. I'm getting a little overexcited here looking things up on a few windows at a time - chefs, posts, lyrics! lol :hmm
Post by: Robson on September 18, 2018, 12:34:27 PM
the album is a slight diversion from those before...
These are important words
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 12:36:16 PM
Post by: Silvertown on September 18, 2018, 12:37:09 PM
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 18, 2018, 12:54:55 PM
Could the Camden shuffle be connected to boxing? "The Camden shuffle and the old one two"? Boxers shuffle their feet. Just a thought. :think
MK loves a song about boxers. :)
Any London born boxers currently out in LA?!
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
I'm guessing it's about movie director Robert Day. He left England for Hollywood in the 60's and died last year.
His last film was called "The quick and the dead". He also made four Tarzan movies.
Post by: jbaent on September 18, 2018, 01:01:46 PM
GF:
the album is a slight diversion from those before...
These are important words
As "soon"
;D
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 01:02:11 PM
Post by: jbaent on September 18, 2018, 01:02:20 PM
A total shot in the dark...
I'm guessing it's about movie director Robert Day. He left England for Hollywood in the 60's and died last year.
His last film was called "The quick and the dead". He also made a Tarzan movie.
The quick and the dead is mentioned in the lyrics? I'm not sure...
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
A total shot in the dark...
I'm guessing it's about movie director Robert Day. He left England for Hollywood in the 60's and died last year.
His last film was called "The quick and the dead". He also made a Tarzan movie.
The quick and the dead is mentioned in the lyrics? I'm not sure...
I'm not sure either. But since I'll have no life for the next three months or so I better make the time worth it. ;D
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
What's all the stuff about juicers, cutting blocks, mangos and producers? A boxer and a chef?
That's where my guess is at peak struggle...
Did Tarzan eat mango? ;D
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 01:06:52 PM
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:09:40 PM
As in cutting movies...
Post by: Dutchessy on September 18, 2018, 01:10:14 PM
A total shot in the dark...
I'm guessing it's about movie director Robert Day. He left England for Hollywood in the 60's and died last year.
His last film was called "The quick and the dead". He also made a Tarzan movie.
The quick and the dead is mentioned in the lyrics? I'm not sure...
Lyrics are posted in post 1 of this thread.
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 01:14:19 PM
"Now he’s cutting it out here with the quick and the dead"
As in cutting movies...
By American director Sam Raimi. No Blighty connection. Directed A Simple Plan - great film BTW (no connection).
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:17:48 PM
"Now he’s cutting it out here with the quick and the dead"
As in cutting movies...
By American director Sam Raimi. No Blighty connection. Directed A Simple Plan - great film BTW (no connection).
Check Robert Day's filmography.
He also made a movie called Rebel.
The main actor was Tony Hancock. On the poster it says " 'Ancock ".
That's cockney right?
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:26:11 PM
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 01:29:27 PM
What's all the stuff about juicers, cutting blocks, mangos and producers? A boxer and a chef?
Well, many Californians are obsessed with healthy living, organic food, freshly-ground coffee, etc. As opposed to the "baccy and beer" mentioned elsewhere in the song.
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:30:37 PM
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 01:37:13 PM
What's all the stuff about juicers, cutting blocks, mangos and producers? A boxer and a chef?
Well, many Californians are obsessed with healthy living, organic food, freshly-ground coffee, etc. As opposed to the "baccy and beer" mentioned elsewhere in the song.
...and of course a boxer would have to keep healthy living. I'm trying to talk myself out of it being yet another song about boxing though. Help me out!
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
Post by: jbaent on September 18, 2018, 01:39:36 PM
Robert Day was born in Sheen (East Sheen is a London suburb), He directed "Rebel" and "The Quick and the Dead". He moved to Hollywood in the 60s. Could it be him? :think
Thats what Border Reiver has been saying some posts ago ;) ;D
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 01:40:54 PM
Robert Day was born in Sheen (East Sheen is a London suburb), He directed "Rebel" and "The Quick and the Dead". He moved to Hollywood in the 60s. Could it be him? :think
Thats what Border Reiver has been saying some posts ago ;) ;D
Just collecting info! ;D
Post by: PensaGhost on September 18, 2018, 01:41:19 PM
The opposite of Heart of Oak in many ways: No depth at all, wether lyrically nor musically, overloaded but boring, too long, dull and uninspired, only disguised and covered with many funky gimmick stuff. Sax does not fit at all and turns out to be the major misconception in MK's recent work in general. A poor copy of Early Bird which was much more original and better. Probably pasted together on one afternoon. This obvious lack of inspiration makes me not exactly looking forward to the album with a lot of exitement. A cold shower after all this waiting. 3/10
LE
totally agree
hope for something better for the other songs
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:46:09 PM
What's all the stuff about juicers, cutting blocks, mangos and producers? A boxer and a chef?
Well, many Californians are obsessed with healthy living, organic food, freshly-ground coffee, etc. As opposed to the "baccy and beer" mentioned elsewhere in the song.
...and of course a boxer would have to keep healthy living. I'm trying to talk myself out of it being yet another song about boxing though. Help me out!
:lol
Nope you're on your own there.
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 01:46:26 PM
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 01:46:40 PM
Robert Day was born in Sheen (East Sheen is a London suburb), He directed "Rebel" and "The Quick and the Dead". He moved to Hollywood in the 60s. Could it be him? :think
Thats what Border Reiver has been saying some posts ago ;) ;D
I'd like to think this is the one. Made a few films I didn't know were his.
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 01:47:35 PM
Robert Day was born in Sheen (East Sheen is a London suburb), He directed "Rebel" and "The Quick and the Dead". He moved to Hollywood in the 60s. Could it be him? :think
Thats what Border Reiver has been saying some posts ago ;) ;D
Just collecting info! ;D
I'm calling the police for that intellectual theft.
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 01:48:58 PM
Post by: jbaent on September 18, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
Robert Day was born in Sheen (East Sheen is a London suburb), He directed "Rebel" and "The Quick and the Dead". He moved to Hollywood in the 60s. Could it be him? :think
Thats what Border Reiver has been saying some posts ago ;) ;D
I'd like to think this is the one. Made a few films I didn't know were his.
Yes but, what's the connection to the rest of references?
:hmm :think
Post by: Robson on September 18, 2018, 01:52:41 PM
Post by: darkshiver on September 18, 2018, 01:54:39 PM
Post by: Adz on September 18, 2018, 02:36:36 PM
"Now he’s cutting it out here with the quick and the dead"
As in cutting movies...
Hate to say it, but perhaps he's a drug dealer cutting coke?
Post by: Robson on September 18, 2018, 03:32:36 PM
Good on you son, good on you
Good on you son, good on you
:)
Post by: dmg on September 18, 2018, 03:37:07 PM
Yes but, what's the connection to the rest of references?
:hmm :think
I'm prepared to overlook them in the event it may be just another boxing song! Seriously, he could bring out an album solely of boxing songs and it's a subject I personally have zero interest in, except I think it should be banned.
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 18, 2018, 03:39:52 PM
Yes but, what's the connection to the rest of references?
:hmm :think
I'm prepared to overlook them in the event it may be just another boxing song! Seriously, he could bring out an album solely of boxing songs and it's a subject I personally have zero interest in, except I think it should be banned.
Personally, I'm waiting for the box set.
Post by: superval99 on September 18, 2018, 03:46:24 PM
I'm in my head all the time
Good on you son, good on you
Good on you son, good on you
:)
I've had an earworm ever since I heard it!
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
Personally, I'm waiting for the box set.
:clap :clap :clap
Post by: hunter on September 18, 2018, 03:54:43 PM
Yes but, what's the connection to the rest of references?
:hmm :think
I'm prepared to overlook them in the event it may be just another boxing song! Seriously, he could bring out an album solely of boxing songs and it's a subject I personally have zero interest in, except I think it should be banned.
Personally, I'm waiting for the box set.
Clever.
Post by: DS on September 18, 2018, 03:58:19 PM
I've had an earworm ever since I heard it!Me too, but for the guitar intro!
Anyway, is it only me that finds that triangle a bit irritating?
Still, the more I listen to the song the more I like it.
Post by: border_reiver on September 18, 2018, 04:12:20 PM
I've had an earworm ever since I heard it!Me too, but for the guitar intro!
Anyway, is it only me that finds that triangle a bit irritating?
Still, the more I listen to the song the more I like it.
I suggest you better not check out cajun musician Christine Balfa's CD "Christine Balfa plays the triangle".
https://open.spotify.com/album/3H0CTd0KvvveMM5XGEgQvX?si=3AVBvT2BTLG6zesFspdMAA (https://open.spotify.com/album/3H0CTd0KvvveMM5XGEgQvX?si=3AVBvT2BTLG6zesFspdMAA)
Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 04:12:22 PM
Same hereAnd who joined and toured with Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel in the late 70's? A certain Guy Fletcher.
Wow, I didn't know that, James! You learn something every day! ;D
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Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 04:12:45 PM
SoMartin freemann
It's somebody who has moved from a dodgy estate in London to California.
Could be a musician, a film maker (editing) or even a chef?!
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Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
Gordon Ramsey?So
It's somebody who has moved from a dodgy estate in London to California.
Could be a musician, a film maker (editing) or even a chef?!
Yeah. It doesn't appear very specific at first glance. We have Camden and Cockney. Then LA (California). We have the producer and screen door (film/TV?). Cutting block, juicer etc. could indicate TV chef?
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Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 04:14:07 PM
Dylan is an avid boxerCould the Camden shuffle be connected to boxing? "The Camden shuffle and the old one two"? Boxers shuffle their feet. Just a thought. :think
MK loves a song about boxers. :)
Any London born boxers currently out in LA?!
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Post by: Pottel on September 18, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
A total shot in the dark...Makes sense
I'm guessing it's about movie director Robert Day. He left England for Hollywood in the 60's and died last year.
His last film was called "The quick and the dead". He also made four Tarzan movies.
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Post by: jbaent on September 18, 2018, 07:00:10 PM
Yes but, what's the connection to the rest of references?
:hmm :think
I'm prepared to overlook them in the event it may be just another boxing song! Seriously, he could bring out an album solely of boxing songs and it's a subject I personally have zero interest in, except I think it should be banned.
Personally, I'm waiting for the box set.
:D
Post by: mschaap on September 18, 2018, 10:17:27 PM
It’s a nice and catchy tune, sounds fresh and vivid. I like it, it’s got something of a different vibe and bit more modern production. However, there are indeed quite some melodies and licks in it that we’ve heard before and the whole thing sounds a bit too poppy for my taste, but that’s more than ok with me for it being the single and probably by far the most commercial track on the album. Exited to hear more new stuff!
Post by: Stanko on September 18, 2018, 10:26:05 PM
Post by: Wimbleman on September 19, 2018, 02:42:11 AM
Post by: jbaent on September 19, 2018, 07:58:24 AM
He's a British that went to LA too...
Post by: border_reiver on September 19, 2018, 08:00:02 AM
Could it be the song about Simon Cowell, like early bird?
He's a British that went to LA too...
Why go at him twice?
That would seem quite petty.
Post by: jbaent on September 19, 2018, 08:02:04 AM
Could it be the song about Simon Cowell, like early bird?
He's a British that went to LA too...
Why go at him twice?
That would seem quite petty.
He wrote two songs about Jerry Springer (el macho and devilbaby) and two about Colonel Parker (back to Tupelo and gator blood)
Post by: border_reiver on September 19, 2018, 08:03:01 AM
Could it be the song about Simon Cowell, like early bird?
He's a British that went to LA too...
Why go at him twice?
That would seem quite petty.
He wrote two songs about Jerry Springer (el macho and devilbaby) and two about Colonel Parker (back to Tupelo and gator blood)
You're right there.
Post by: hunter on September 19, 2018, 08:30:19 AM
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 19, 2018, 08:36:26 AM
Did he ever say El Macho was about Springer?Could it be the song about Simon Cowell, like early bird?
He's a British that went to LA too...
Why go at him twice?
That would seem quite petty.
He wrote two songs about Jerry Springer (el macho and devilbaby) and two about Colonel Parker (back to Tupelo and gator blood)
Post by: jbaent on September 19, 2018, 08:42:05 AM
Did he ever say El Macho was about Springer?Could it be the song about Simon Cowell, like early bird?
He's a British that went to LA too...
Why go at him twice?
That would seem quite petty.
He wrote two songs about Jerry Springer (el macho and devilbaby) and two about Colonel Parker (back to Tupelo and gator blood)
I think so... but there's a reference in the lyrics as well:
They say you're a star
That's what the boys all say you are
I don't see much TV
So you don't mean shit to me
But you look like a fine thing Jerry
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 19, 2018, 10:40:32 AM
Post by: jbaent on September 19, 2018, 10:47:15 AM
I don't remember him saying it was about Springer... in fact I remember him saying he picked Jerry because it could be a man or a woman... but my memory is an unreliable witness. :)
I recall during the STP promotion that he saw a Spanish painting called "el macho" (which is totally unknown to me) and he liked the name, and that Jerry was because Springer, because of the tv shit etc he mentions, but I also recall him saying that he said Jerry just without reason like you say...
I bet is a mixture of things, but the Jerry Springer thing was the one I heard that makes more sense specially because of the shit tv reference.
It's like when he explained about "Coyote", he said once that he was watching cartoons with his sons, then in other interviews said that "maybe I wasn´t watching cartoons with my sons, it just came to mind" etc etc etc
I like that he sometimes let the fans to pick up the meaning of the songs, but sometimes he does a mess with explanations as well, LOL
Post by: Adz on September 19, 2018, 10:55:41 AM
Mark Knopfler, or maybe just his new single, will be on the BBC Radio 2 Ken Bruce show this morning. The show is currently live now, 9.55 BST.
Post by: GIUMK on September 19, 2018, 11:57:53 AM
Post by: Dutchessy on September 19, 2018, 12:08:45 PM
http://www.internetradiouk.com/bbc-2/
Post by: Kay Edvin on September 19, 2018, 12:09:36 PM
The reporter said that the album will be released in the middle of november!
Post by: Vesper on September 19, 2018, 12:10:14 PM
Post by: Vesper on September 19, 2018, 12:11:05 PM
Post by: Dutchessy on September 19, 2018, 12:11:15 PM
Post by: superval99 on September 19, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
Post by: Dutchessy on September 19, 2018, 12:29:55 PM
Is that the Jamie Grace album? :think
What? :P No, one song at a time by MK ofcourse ;)
Post by: superval99 on September 19, 2018, 12:31:29 PM
Is that the Jamie Grace album? :think
What? :P
I can only find "One song at a time" by Jamie Grace - has anyone else recorded a song of that title? If so who?
Post by: superval99 on September 19, 2018, 12:33:55 PM
Is that the Jamie Grace album? :think
What? :P No, one song at a time by MK ofcourse ;)
I have searched and cannot find that song by MK. Where do I find it?
Post by: jbaent on September 19, 2018, 12:36:27 PM
Is that the Jamie Grace album? :think
What? :P No, one song at a time by MK ofcourse ;)
I have searched and cannot find that song by MK. Where do I find it?
it's one of the 13 songs of the new MK record, standard edition
ONE SONG AT A TIME
MATCHSTICK MAN
SLOW LEARNER
BACK ON THE DANCEFLOOR
FLOATING AWAY
GOOD ON YOU SON
NOBODY'S CHILD
JUST A BOY
MOVING UP
MY BACON ROLL
NOBODY DOES THAT
DROVERS' ROAD
TRAPPER MAN
Post by: jbaent on September 19, 2018, 12:37:22 PM
Album title is from a line of the song 'one song at a time'
I thought it might be from "drovers road" :lol
Post by: superval99 on September 19, 2018, 12:38:12 PM
Post by: Solid Rock on September 19, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Post by: MisterYES on September 19, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
But i like it overall non the less and more than any of three it reminds me of.
Sax is so 70ties...
Post by: hunter on September 19, 2018, 01:55:45 PM
The song is now in Spotify!
On Tidal too.
Post by: Rail King on September 19, 2018, 02:10:03 PM
Could it be the song about Simon Cowell, like early bird?
He's a British that went to LA too...
Why go at him twice?
That would seem quite petty.
Especially if you do it with the same song. ;)
Post by: Rail King on September 19, 2018, 03:10:04 PM
It's not the song itself that's the problem. It surely doesn't help that it's quite banal compared to other MK songs, and that it's really a rehash of Early Bird, both lyrically and musically. But it is not a bad song. It has a groove, and the lyrics aren't uninteresting. God knows why they chose this as the "single" - probably because it's the most radio-friendly song - but okay. Mark's record company almost has a habit of picking unrepresentative songs as singles (and God, do I hope this is unrepresentative!). We've become used to that. Not a problem.
The problem is how this song is produced, or, more precisely, destroyed by Guy Fletcher's awful-awful-awful keyboards and synths. It's quite unbelievable what amount of harm he is capable of doing, and even more unbelievable that Mark actually seems to ask him for it. I was planning to go into more detail here, but I won't; it's just too painful. The song is basically ruined before it even starts 38 seconds in, and from then on GF just heaps more and more layers of shit on it. I'd never ever thought I'd say that, but when the saxophone finally kicks in, it actually comes as a relief. After that, the song at least really sounds like the cheap 80s TV-series soundtrack it may be trying to evoke.
Which brings me to this: Of course you could argue that this whole shitty soundscape is supposed to be listened to with the "irony" mode on. The song seems to be about an 80s TV director, so why not make it sound like 80s TV. But even if it was meant ironically - and I'm more than ready to believe it is, if only to save whatever is left of my trust in MK's aesthetic judgement - it wouldn't be very successful in it, and it would be very much at odds with the more raw and real approach of most of MK's solo work.
At some point in MK's career - around The Ragpicker's Dream and Shangri-La - I was confident that he would eventually leave all these awfully cheesy synthetic sounds that occasionally crept up in his songs behind. I was hoping that he would part with GF, and maybe work with a producer that has some sense of taste, and a feel for what makes Mark Knopfler so special. Someone like Daniel Lanois or Rick Rubin. To see that the opposite is happening is truly heartbreaking.
I'm used to getting emotional after hearing a MK song for the first time. But not in this way. :disbelief
Post by: hunter on September 19, 2018, 03:21:39 PM
I get what you're saying, and more than once, GF''s keyboards have put me off. Not so much the synth stuff, but more the organ sounds, for instance on Beryl. Terrible.
But, although the new single is not my favorite, and never will be, I welcome a change. We've been force-fed whistles, pipes and citterns for a long time now.
By the way, have you listened to Ry Cooder's new album? His son Joachim is a wizard with ambient sounds and computer stuff. The new album combines those sounds with folksy material in a clever way.
Post by: tobi777 on September 19, 2018, 03:52:39 PM
It's not a masterpiece, though:
The melody is a bit generic and the verses are kind of dull.
I don't know if I like GF's synths and organs...
The slapback delay on the vocals is also a bit too much, I think.
The guitar licks sound familiar - but that's not surprising.
A nice fun track - could have been a bonus song on another album in the past.
But let's wait for the other songs. Remember last time, when everybody listened to Beryl and thought the album would be that way? :D
Post by: dmg on September 19, 2018, 04:53:52 PM
Post by: Robson on September 19, 2018, 05:09:57 PM
Post by: GIUMK on September 19, 2018, 05:17:28 PM
Good On You Son radio wersion: 3.33What is the source?
Post by: Robson on September 19, 2018, 05:19:00 PM
Good On You Son radio wersion: 3.33What is the source?
Universal
Post by: GIUMK on September 19, 2018, 05:22:42 PM
:D :thumbsupGood On You Son radio wersion: 3.33What is the source?
Universal
Post by: Dutchessy on September 19, 2018, 05:41:15 PM
Post by: smithy15493 on September 19, 2018, 05:48:05 PM
Really like this song, quite different to what I was expecting, a bit more mainstream sounding and funkier, but I welcome that. Catchy chorus and nice beat all the way through
Post by: JF on September 19, 2018, 05:55:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vVeeVBNxNw
in the description there are all musicians
Post by: JF on September 19, 2018, 05:59:03 PM
Post by: superval99 on September 19, 2018, 06:10:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vVeeVBNxNw
in the description there are all musicians
No Richard Bennett? or Nigel Hitchcock?
Post by: JF on September 19, 2018, 06:11:59 PM
maybe the description si not the one for the song :smack
Post by: superval99 on September 19, 2018, 06:17:38 PM
yes it's strange
maybe the description si not the one for the song :smack
The musicians listed must be those on the song, so it means that it is, indeed, a trumpet not a sax, even though it sounds like a sax to my ears! Very strange.
Post by: jbaent on September 19, 2018, 06:25:25 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on September 19, 2018, 08:30:55 PM
After being warned by LE's comment – which mentioned pretty much everything I have a problem with in some of Mark's songs -
...
I was planning to go into more detail here, but I won't; it's just too painful.
It's funny you should say that.
In fact my review was (is, exists still) much much longer but I admit that I feared another attack from certain members and their funny wisdom and even I don't want to be killed more than once a week at AMIT. I found out today that if you had a bad day at the office, it doesn't sound THAT bad, after all it's still Mark. But speaking of the synths would get me going ...
It gives me some comfort that I am not the only one having trouble with this song. Thank you for your review.
LE
Post by: dmg on September 19, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
It's a saxophone. Credits must be wrong.
Can I throw tenor sax into the ring?
Post by: localhero1986 on September 19, 2018, 09:21:05 PM
Post by: Pottel on September 19, 2018, 09:21:25 PM
Hi, newbie hereWelcome
Really like this song, quite different to what I was expecting, a bit more mainstream sounding and funkier, but I welcome that. Catchy chorus and nice beat all the way through
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Post by: Pottel on September 19, 2018, 09:25:35 PM
It’s been a while, being too busy to catch up with even the latest MK news but hey, never too late to show up I hope?Welcome backJust got the mail from MK.com and also found Good on you on itunes. Right now it’s playing on my bose for the first time, yes I like it!
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Post by: Dutchessy on September 19, 2018, 09:43:51 PM
It’s been a while, being too busy to catch up with even the latest MK news but hey, never too late to show up I hope? :lol Just got the mail from MK.com and also found Good on you on itunes. Right now it’s playing on my bose for the first time, yes I like it!
Jeffrey!! Welcome back ;D ;D
Post by: Vesper on September 20, 2018, 12:07:57 AM
Good On You Son radio version: 3.33
Is it for sale?
Post by: quizzaciously on September 20, 2018, 12:13:33 AM
Good On You Son radio version: 3.33
Is it for sale?
I doubt it, but frankly as with Beryl the radio version is pretty much a track cut with scissors, nothing extraordinary. You can make your own radio version just by cutting it and stitching in the right places. Beryl cuts was insanely obvious.
Post by: kaleo74 on September 20, 2018, 04:13:56 AM
It’s been a while, being too busy to catch up with even the latest MK news but hey, never too late to show up I hope? :lol Just got the mail from MK.com and also found Good on you on itunes. Right now it’s playing on my bose for the first time, yes I like it!
Welcome back,
I like "Good on you son", it's growing in me and the more I listen, the more I find it amazing, a mix of Early bird and No can do, the song fits the album cover, you know like you are doing a road trip and driving the highway 66 :)
Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 08:01:28 AM
Very much looking forward to the rest of the album, and very much so from an audiophile point of view.
Post by: holaknopfler on September 20, 2018, 08:07:51 AM
I had a chance to listen to the track on my proper hifi system. That makes a huge difference. The various instruments and elements are wonderfully laid out with lots of space. Guy's synths and keys go far outside the physical speaker boundaries, so you get a very wide soundstage. Funnily enough the keyboards don't feel so prominent that way. When you listen to a lesser system, things feel more congested.
Very much looking forward to the rest of the album, and very much so from an audiophile point of view.
Absolutely true. I listened yesterday through my custom made in ear monitors and the stereo is amazing. It really sounds less compressed than through cheaper headphones. I like it better then. But I always like it better when I listen through a quality system..
Post by: quizzaciously on September 20, 2018, 08:32:52 AM
I had a chance to listen to the track on my proper hifi system. That makes a huge difference. The various instruments and elements are wonderfully laid out with lots of space. Guy's synths and keys go far outside the physical speaker boundaries, so you get a very wide soundstage. Funnily enough the keyboards don't feel so prominent that way. When you listen to a lesser system, things feel more congested.
Very much looking forward to the rest of the album, and very much so from an audiophile point of view.
Absolutely true. I listened yesterday through my custom made in ear monitors and the stereo is amazing. It really sounds less compressed than through cheaper headphones. I like it better then. But I always like it better when I listen through a quality system..
Does that mean that playing with microphone positions for three years was worth it? :lol
Post by: holaknopfler on September 20, 2018, 08:37:13 AM
I had a chance to listen to the track on my proper hifi system. That makes a huge difference. The various instruments and elements are wonderfully laid out with lots of space. Guy's synths and keys go far outside the physical speaker boundaries, so you get a very wide soundstage. Funnily enough the keyboards don't feel so prominent that way. When you listen to a lesser system, things feel more congested.
Very much looking forward to the rest of the album, and very much so from an audiophile point of view.
Absolutely true. I listened yesterday through my custom made in ear monitors and the stereo is amazing. It really sounds less compressed than through cheaper headphones. I like it better then. But I always like it better when I listen through a quality system..
Does that mean that playing with microphone positions for three years was worth it? :lol
Hahaha you made me laugh out loud, probably... or drinking tea? ;D
Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 08:38:20 AM
I had a chance to listen to the track on my proper hifi system. That makes a huge difference. The various instruments and elements are wonderfully laid out with lots of space. Guy's synths and keys go far outside the physical speaker boundaries, so you get a very wide soundstage. Funnily enough the keyboards don't feel so prominent that way. When you listen to a lesser system, things feel more congested.
Very much looking forward to the rest of the album, and very much so from an audiophile point of view.
Absolutely true. I listened yesterday through my custom made in ear monitors and the stereo is amazing. It really sounds less compressed than through cheaper headphones. I like it better then. But I always like it better when I listen through a quality system..
Does that mean that playing with microphone positions for three years was worth it? :lol
Oh yes!
That is, ultimately it's the music that matters, but if the production and recording are terrible, it can ruin the experience. On the other hand, great production can lift already great music to higher heights and give it another dimension.
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 10:38:44 AM
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Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
So, Interpretations? What's it about? What does it say? A guy from the UK sits in LA now having a healthy breakfast. So what?
LE
That's pretty much it. Someone relocated from Old Blighty to Sunny California in search of a better life and future. Not exactly a ground-breaking topic. Then there's the question of who it may be. Not that that will make the 'message' more important.
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 10:54:48 AM
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Post by: Knopflerfan on September 20, 2018, 11:00:32 AM
A pure teaser for what is to come I believe...
Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 11:01:58 AM
Post by: skydiver on September 20, 2018, 11:06:56 AM
So, Interpretations? What's it about? What does it say? A guy from the UK sits in LA now having a healthy breakfast. So what?
LE
We know that Mark often hides a very personal deeper meaning behind a song's obivous superficial story told in the foreground.
Broken Bones is not just another song about boxing or Sonny Liston but about his personal attitude/approach at getting older.
Sometimes it can take years to get to that real meaning, sometimes we don't get there at all.
So patience is required.
It for sure is not just a simple song about a guy, maybe Robert Day, leaving for the sunshine state to make his way.
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 20, 2018, 11:08:11 AM
I love the part around 3'22 where the guitar leads into the sax - wonderful! :)
Totally agree Val... I'm not normally keen on Sax but I'm convinced this really works for this track...
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 11:15:31 AM
So, Interpretations? What's it about? What does it say? A guy from the UK sits in LA now having a healthy breakfast. So what?
LE
We know that Mark often hides a very personal deeper meaning behind a song's obivous superficial story told in the foreground.
For instance Broken Bones is not just another (third) song about boxing or Sonny Liston but about his personal attitude/approach at getting older).
Sometimes it can take years to get to that real meaning, sometimes we don't get there at all.
So patience is required.
It for sure is not just a simple song about a guy leaving for the sunshine state to make his way.
Thank you.
At the moment I still work out the story in the foreground. So it is HIS store... (he grinds a coffee by HIMSELF) and the LA Times lying around. Right?
The Sax part could literally be just putting on the music System when opened in the morning.
And the hunter's gleam in his eye shows that he is here at this place because he had the WILL of exactly having this.
Does Cockney Rebel has any other meaning than the band's name? As he listens to the rhythm of A
cockney rebel..
LE
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 11:19:11 AM
We have already discussed at length whom the person might be.
Ok. Sorry for being late.
I refer from thinking that it is about a concrete person in the meantime. More about a special type of person inspired by a man MK maybe met in a diner in LA and wondered about his cockney slang which made him going get the idea of this man being in an obviously wrong surrounding.
LE
Post by: skydiver on September 20, 2018, 11:26:52 AM
So, Interpretations? What's it about? What does it say? A guy from the UK sits in LA now having a healthy breakfast. So what?
LE
We know that Mark often hides a very personal deeper meaning behind a song's obivous superficial story told in the foreground.
For instance Broken Bones is not just another (third) song about boxing or Sonny Liston but about his personal attitude/approach at getting older).
Sometimes it can take years to get to that real meaning, sometimes we don't get there at all.
So patience is required.
It for sure is not just a simple song about a guy leaving for the sunshine state to make his way.
Thank you.
At the moment I still work out the story im the foreground. So it is HIS store... (he grinds a coffee by HIMSELF) and the LA Times lying around. Right?
The Sax part could literally be just putting on the music System when opened in the morning.
And the hunter's gleam in his eye shows that he is here at this place because he had the WILL of exactly having this.
Does Cockney Rebel has any other meaning than the band's name? As he listens to the rhythm of A
cockney rebel..
LE
One significance/implication to dig into is the cockney rebel and the Camden shuffle.
Is there a conncection with the song's rythm?
Is there maybe even a slight connection to the glam-rock band Steve Harley & the Cockney Rebel of the 70s.
If so is there a connection to the person in the song (if it is RD) or his attitude in life?
And above all what interests or fasciantes MK in this, what can he personally relate to on a deeper level than just being a man of those times or of humble origins himself.
It is of course very early in the process of deciphering the track and one certainly can be totally wrong with these first approaches.
So much more work is to be done if Mark doesn't solve the puzzle in one of the upcoming interviews.
Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 11:30:01 AM
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 11:32:57 AM
Wow, son, you made it, coming a long way from the backie and the beer to have a diner in sunny California? Good on you son!
LE
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2018, 11:36:34 AM
Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 11:36:59 AM
"He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s beaten our producer" be
"He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s meeting a producer"?
Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 11:38:21 AM
Wow, son, you made it, coming a long way from the backie and the beer to have a diner in sunny California? Good on you son!
I don't think he is in a restaurant; rather that he's at home, and that the lemon tree is in his garden. He has a home overlooking LA.
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 11:39:29 AM
This is one of my favourite moments... when new songs come out and LE starts digging about their meaning... many times it makes the song to be better when you understand it!
Haha ... it's pure desperation, to be lost in translation! :lol
LE
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 11:41:14 AM
Wow, son, you made it, coming a long way from the backie and the beer to have a diner in sunny California? Good on you son!
I don't think he is in a restaurant; rather that he's at home, and that the lemon tree is in his garden. He has a home overlooking LA.
Together with "meeting" a producer it would make much more sence indeed. So actor or Musician.
LE
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2018, 11:43:18 AM
Wow, son, you made it, coming a long way from the backie and the beer to have a diner in sunny California? Good on you son!
I don't think he is in a restaurant; rather that he's at home, and that the lemon tree is in his garden. He has a home overlooking LA.
Together with "meeting" a producer it would make much more sence indeed. So actor or Musician.
LE
Thats why I thought about Simon Cowell...
Post by: Love Expresso on September 20, 2018, 11:50:21 AM
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Post by: localhero1986 on September 20, 2018, 12:31:40 PM
It’s been a while, being too busy to catch up with even the latest MK news but hey, never too late to show up I hope?Welcome back
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It’s been a while, being too busy to catch up with even the latest MK news but hey, never too late to show up I hope? :lol Just got the mail from MK.com and also found Good on you on itunes. Right now it’s playing on my bose for the first time, yes I like it!
Jeffrey!! Welcome back ;D ;D
Thanks! ;D Felt like a small child this morning, put the new song on repeat and guess what, traffic helped me a bit. Instead of 20 minutes, it took me one hour to drive to work. 8)
Post by: binone on September 20, 2018, 12:46:39 PM
The musicmatch lirycs says " he's beaten our producer"Wow, son, you made it, coming a long way from the backie and the beer to have a diner in sunny California? Good on you son!
I don't think he is in a restaurant; rather that he's at home, and that the lemon tree is in his garden. He has a home overlooking LA.
Together with "meeting" a producer it would make much more sence indeed. So actor or Musician.
LE
Post by: dmg on September 20, 2018, 12:47:32 PM
Possible lyric correction: Should
"He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s beaten our producer" be
"He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s meeting a producer"?
Makes more sense. I'll change it on page 5, or whatever. Sometime the harder you listen to it the more obscure it sounds! :hmm
Post by: binone on September 20, 2018, 12:49:09 PM
Look above, according to musicmatch, is beatenPossible lyric correction: Should
"He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s beaten our producer" be
"He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s meeting a producer"?
Makes more sense. I'll change it on page 5, or whatever. Sometime the harder you listen to it the more obscure it sounds! :hmm
Post by: dmg on September 20, 2018, 12:50:25 PM
The musicmatch lirycs says " he's beaten our producer"Wow, son, you made it, coming a long way from the backie and the beer to have a diner in sunny California? Good on you son!
I don't think he is in a restaurant; rather that he's at home, and that the lemon tree is in his garden. He has a home overlooking LA.
Together with "meeting" a producer it would make much more sence indeed. So actor or Musician.
LE
Probably stole it from AMIT the sneaky devils! I thought beaten the producer to the coffee but "meeting" would make sense too. Imagine a scene in a waiting room sipping coffee with the newspaper about to go into a meeting with a producer.
Post by: hunter on September 20, 2018, 01:01:56 PM
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 20, 2018, 01:08:28 PM
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 20, 2018, 01:10:20 PM
Born Camden Town, famous in the UK for a coffee commercial.
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 20, 2018, 01:12:41 PM
Ray Winstone, amateur boxer.
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2018, 01:13:06 PM
I don't know anything about Simon Cowell's background but he's clearly not a cockney and I don't think he sounds like he grew up on a grimy council estate.
he's from Brighton and if you believe the wikipedia, he was a bad boy when child, but probably it doesnt fit with the character of the song...
Post by: Pottel on September 20, 2018, 06:15:31 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Winstonereally like the guy. great in sexy beast with Ben Kingsly as well.
Ray Winstone, amateur boxer.
Post by: Mossguitar on September 20, 2018, 07:44:59 PM
Post by: Shai on September 20, 2018, 09:14:46 PM
For example , on this song, at 0:47, 2:54 and 3:50, you can hear guitar riffs that come straight from the Shot at Glory soundtrack - second track, Hard Cases!
So cool :)
Saul
Post by: wespresso on September 20, 2018, 09:34:45 PM
But I love the sound of mk’s voice, I love the guitars (the blue Pensa, PensaGhost?),
Hey man, Guy confirmed that it is one of Mark's Les Paul's through a Komet amp.
Post by: dmg on September 20, 2018, 10:09:05 PM
Post by: goon525 on September 21, 2018, 12:10:32 AM
Post by: hunter on September 21, 2018, 03:01:52 AM
I do think there’s a slightly 'phasey' processing on his voice which I don’t find entirely natural.
I'm not crazy about that effect either. Also that 'accentuation of certain frequencies to get that telephone voice' thing. Could live without it.
Post by: Romanbern on September 21, 2018, 08:39:35 AM
However, I don't think, we will hear this song llive.
Post by: border_reiver on September 21, 2018, 08:52:05 AM
With all these opinions of yours in mind - crappy sax, chessy synth etc. - I listened with no great expectations, but: Mr. Knopfler shows with this track, that he is still alive and kicking. What a fresh sounding song and what a good, well-sorted production - a good, even perhaps great Pop song. After the mostly dull Singles of the last Albums - True Love, Border Reiver, Redbud tree and Beryl - this is really a vital sign.
However, I don't think, we will hear this song llive.
BR is far from dull. It's one of the fastest songs he's made.
I can only assume you never heard it live as the opener. Maybe the best opener ever.
Post by: Pottel on September 21, 2018, 09:16:22 AM
Agree!With all these opinions of yours in mind - crappy sax, chessy synth etc. - I listened with no great expectations, but: Mr. Knopfler shows with this track, that he is still alive and kicking. What a fresh sounding song and what a good, well-sorted production - a good, even perhaps great Pop song. After the mostly dull Singles of the last Albums - True Love, Border Reiver, Redbud tree and Beryl - this is really a vital sign.
However, I don't think, we will hear this song llive.
BR is far from dull. It's one of the fastest songs he's made.
I can only assume you never heard it live as the opener. Maybe the best opener ever.
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Post by: hunter on September 21, 2018, 09:27:09 AM
With all these opinions of yours in mind - crappy sax, chessy synth etc. - I listened with no great expectations, but: Mr. Knopfler shows with this track, that he is still alive and kicking. What a fresh sounding song and what a good, well-sorted production - a good, even perhaps great Pop song. After the mostly dull Singles of the last Albums - True Love, Border Reiver, Redbud tree and Beryl - this is really a vital sign.
However, I don't think, we will hear this song llive.
BR is far from dull. It's one of the fastest songs he's made.
I can only assume you never heard it live as the opener. Maybe the best opener ever.
I never heard it live, but when I heard the single, I was very excited. Unfortunately, the rest of Get Lucky didn't match my expectations. Same with Beryl and Tracker also.
Post by: rockaway on September 21, 2018, 12:54:34 PM
With all these opinions of yours in mind - crappy sax, chessy synth etc. - I listened with no great expectations, but: Mr. Knopfler shows with this track, that he is still alive and kicking. What a fresh sounding song and what a good, well-sorted production - a good, even perhaps great Pop song. After the mostly dull Singles of the last Albums - True Love, Border Reiver, Redbud tree and Beryl - this is really a vital sign.
However, I don't think, we will hear this song llive.
BR is far from dull. It's one of the fastest songs he's made.
I can only assume you never heard it live as the opener. Maybe the best opener ever.
I've never heard it live but I agree, wouldn't consider it dull by any means
Post by: dmg on September 21, 2018, 12:59:28 PM
With all these opinions of yours in mind - crappy sax, chessy synth etc. - I listened with no great expectations, but: Mr. Knopfler shows with this track, that he is still alive and kicking. What a fresh sounding song and what a good, well-sorted production - a good, even perhaps great Pop song. After the mostly dull Singles of the last Albums - True Love, Border Reiver, Redbud tree and Beryl - this is really a vital sign.
However, I don't think, we will hear this song llive.
BR is far from dull. It's one of the fastest songs he's made.
I can only assume you never heard it live as the opener. Maybe the best opener ever.
I never heard it live, but when I heard the single, I was very excited. Unfortunately, the rest of Get Lucky didn't match my expectations. Same with Beryl and Tracker also.
Yes, Beryl is not a good song however you look at it. This is a definite improvement. Massive IMHO.
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 21, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
Much prefer Beryl to Good on You Son, opinions opinions. :)
Post by: jbaent on September 21, 2018, 02:02:36 PM
I remember Get Lucky being the first song we heard from that album? Don't know about official "single" though.
Much prefer Beryl to Good on You Son, opinions opinions. :)
Yes, Get Lucky was the first song we heard in MK.com site, not sure if it was "a single"...
Beryl has that DS sound, but I find that the lyrics are a little bit silly specially when it's supposed he's trying to do a homage to Beryl, but looks a little childish to me.
Good on you son, for me is so surprising that wins the best single prize since "Boom like that".
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 21, 2018, 02:36:06 PM
I remember Get Lucky being the first song we heard from that album? Don't know about official "single" though.
Much prefer Beryl to Good on You Son, opinions opinions. :)
Yes, Get Lucky was the first song we heard in MK.com site, not sure if it was "a single"...
Beryl has that DS sound, but I find that the lyrics are a little bit silly specially when it's supposed he's trying to do a homage to Beryl, but looks a little childish to me.
Good on you son, for me is so surprising that wins the best single prize since "Boom like that".
I just don't find it surprising because it's almost identical to Early Bird? Somebody with half decent pro-tools skills could do a "mash-up" of the tracks I'm sure, they are virtually interchangeable.
And I think Early Bird is much better. :)
Post by: jbaent on September 21, 2018, 03:53:53 PM
Post by: El Macho on September 21, 2018, 11:39:48 PM
Good on You Son reminds me 2 songs : Early Bird in the rhythm, the tempo and We Can Get Wild in the way Mark sings. I like it better now a few days after the first listen : funky song, good duet between MK's guitar and Nigel's sax. Even Guy's noises (I first thought they ruined the song like Coyote or El Macho) work well with the song's dynamics. I think it will be even better played live if Mark and Nigel have fun on stage !
Post by: rmarques821 on September 22, 2018, 12:05:22 AM
With all these opinions of yours in mind - crappy sax, chessy synth etc. - I listened with no great expectations, but: Mr. Knopfler shows with this track, that he is still alive and kicking. What a fresh sounding song and what a good, well-sorted production - a good, even perhaps great Pop song. After the mostly dull Singles of the last Albums - True Love, Border Reiver, Redbud tree and Beryl - this is really a vital sign.
However, I don't think, we will hear this song llive.
BR is far from dull. It's one of the fastest songs he's made.
I can only assume you never heard it live as the opener. Maybe the best opener ever.
I love Border Reiver and I agree it's the best opener ever. Just love the flute and then Mark waving to the crowd after the drums kick in!
Post by: stratocasteph on September 22, 2018, 12:25:11 AM
I've got the sensation that the lead guitar is composed by parts of already heard guitar licks. And there is at least one guitar note out of time ! How is it possible on a Mark Knopfler record ?
The melody is boring.
Mark has certainly one of the best recording studio with British Grove, so how can he produce a song with all these awful synth sounds ?
The only good point is the saxophone.
Please Mark, hire a true producer if you make another record after this one.
It's the kind of songs that was only good enough to be a bonus track on a single (like Millionaire Blues), and now it's used as the promo song of the forthcoming record... :hmm
Post by: Robson on September 22, 2018, 12:35:00 AM
Post by: PortobelloBelle on September 22, 2018, 01:24:21 AM
This is not the best song, and I'm really struggling with the saxophone. But I have listened to it at least 50 times at work, at home, in the car, with earbuds on my phone and I love it because it's Mark and because I've been a fan for all these years. I probably enjoy the anticipation for a new album more than I enjoy hearing the new songs. And I know there will be at least one song on the album that I will fall in love with and listen to for all the years to come.
Three thoughts, apropos of nothing:
- Border Reiver IS amazing live.
- Why is everyone so down on Beryl?
- Best line of the thread so far, hands down: if the whole album is like this I say "Let's go". But I think it will be bagpipes all over again :D
For perspective, it's been 12,065 days since I saw the Brothers in Arms tour at the Greek Theater in my hometown, Los Angeles. Really smiled at "The LA Times lies on the stove / warming there like bread." As much as I'm forgiving of Mark and his music as the years wear on, I love both the tunes AND the discussions and disagreements on here so much. You guys are all terrific.
Post by: Robson on September 22, 2018, 01:39:52 AM
"...For perspective, it's been 12,065 days since I saw the Brothers in Arms tour at the Greek Theater in my hometown, Los Angeles...
Wow! You are a lucky man. It's amazing ...
Post by: Love Expresso on September 22, 2018, 10:34:59 AM
In the meantime I think (again) it must be a concrete person. The chopping has something brutal, the Hunter's gleam in the eye seems to direct us to a dangerous man, maybe a criminal, and the peaceful atmosphere with the nice weather seems to be a contrast to this.
The Hamden Shuffle and the old one-two seems to direct in no other direction than boxing.
LE
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 11:41:49 AM
Post by: Love Expresso on September 22, 2018, 11:50:39 AM
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Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 12:03:34 PM
Yes? Who would that be then?
LE
I don't know that much about boxing... But it would fit with all the aspects of the song.
Or maybe they are two characters... Someone in LA and other person from the UK and one says to the other "good on you son"
Post by: dmg on September 22, 2018, 12:28:44 PM
Yes? Who would that be then?
LE
Ray Winstone? Even has Mark's glasses on here so it must be him. :lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Winstone
I think Robert Day is too obscure a director. Can't see Mark even being aware of him let alone writing a song about him.
Post by: Love Expresso on September 22, 2018, 12:52:47 PM
So how probable is it? I asked Guy about it already but his answer was not clear. "Absolutely not" ...
LE
Post by: dmg on September 22, 2018, 12:55:01 PM
I can't believe that I loved him as Will in Robin of Sherwood as I loved the whole series and that he is in Departed, one of my all-time-favourites and never made the connection that he is the same guy. :lol
So how probable is it? I asked Guy about it already but his answer was not clear. "Absolutely not" ...
LE
"Absolutely not." So we can't rule it out then! :lol
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2018, 12:57:13 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on September 22, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
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Post by: dmg on September 22, 2018, 01:01:45 PM
I have Problems with Guy's answer. How do you understand it? I asked if it really would give too much away also and wonder how he means it to be honest
LE
It depends on whether he had a smile on his face as he was typing or not! So either we've cracked it or we're way off. I don't expect him to tell us we're right though, do you?
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 01:03:38 PM
A Spanish friend told me he read about it somewhere but can't remember where...
Post by: Dutchessy on September 22, 2018, 02:28:36 PM
Did any of you read anything about a videoclip for this song?
A Spanish friend told me he read about it somewhere but can't remember where...
A Spanish FB friend told me about a videoclip next monday.
Post by: H97 on September 22, 2018, 03:40:06 PM
A British boxer gtow up poor that got successful and ended in LA and doing films?
I know nothing about boxing, but maybe Charley White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_White) or Johnny Owen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Owen)? Both Uk born boxers that are apparently quite well-known, and both ended up in L.A. However, nothing on films or cooking with both :hmm
Post by: DS on September 22, 2018, 06:15:51 PM
Post by: dmg on September 22, 2018, 06:20:11 PM
What is the "note out of time" that everyone is talking about? Everything sounds perfectly in time to me.
At around 34s into the song just before the band kicks in.
Post by: DS on September 22, 2018, 06:27:59 PM
What is the "note out of time" that everyone is talking about? Everything sounds perfectly in time to me.
At around 34s into the song just before the band kicks in.
Hmm, if you mean that D# which is slightly delayed with respect to how he does it the first time, that's definitely on purpose (and I love it).
If instead it is one of those last 3 notes before the band... I'm not able to tell that they're out of time ???
Post by: dmg on September 22, 2018, 06:42:12 PM
What is the "note out of time" that everyone is talking about? Everything sounds perfectly in time to me.
At around 34s into the song just before the band kicks in.
Hmm, if you mean that D# which is slightly delayed with respect to how he does it the first time, that's definitely on purpose (and I love it).
If instead it is one of those last 3 notes before the band... I'm not able to tell that they're out of time ???
Yes to the former. So you think it's on purpose. I was pretty sure too because why not re-record? However, it just sounds weird to me and I can't help thinking it would sound so much better if it was "in time." Or better still, improvise a little the 2nd time around.
Post by: quizzaciously on September 22, 2018, 06:56:43 PM
Post by: PensaGhost on September 22, 2018, 07:04:49 PM
Post by: DS on September 22, 2018, 07:06:54 PM
1) the "out of time" note lands perfectly on time in its own beat
2) it's a dead simple lick that you could play even if you didn't ever touch a guitar in your lifetime
3) it is basically the textbook definition of syncopation
4) it sounds great
I mean, come on. He likes pipes, but he's still Mark.
Post by: quizzaciously on September 22, 2018, 07:18:21 PM
We will probably never know, but, I mean, come on:
1) the "out of time" note lands perfectly on time in its own beat
2) it's a dead simple lick that you could play even if you didn't ever touch a guitar in your lifetime
3) it is basically the textbook definition of syncopation
4) it sounds great
I mean, come on. He likes pipes, but he's still Mark.
I think it's because of the "first take" situation, every musician of every level brags about first take recording, as if the listener cares how many times you've played the song before finally recording it. I'm pretty sure these things comes not on purpose, but purely because first take is better than trying to re-record something and just to leave thing "as is".
Post by: kaleo74 on September 22, 2018, 07:25:36 PM
We will probably never know, but, I mean, come on:
1) the "out of time" note lands perfectly on time in its own beat
2) it's a dead simple lick that you could play even if you didn't ever touch a guitar in your lifetime
3) it is basically the textbook definition of syncopation
4) it sounds great
I mean, come on. He likes pipes, but he's still Mark.
I think it's because of the "first take" situation, every musician of every level brags about first take recording, as if the listener cares how many times you've played the song before finally recording it. I'm pretty sure these things comes not on purpose, but purely because first take is better than trying to re-record something and just to leave thing "as is".
Agree, but remember, Mark likes first takes, I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that Calling Elvis, Iron hand and I’m sure many other songs were recorded live and the first take was the one on the album.
Post by: Dutchessy on September 22, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
Post by: quizzaciously on September 22, 2018, 08:30:53 PM
What about a third song about the same person? Good on you Son(ny) ;)
Man, looks like Mark were a boxer in the past life, so many songs about boxers. What is all about, anyway? Two people bashing each other in the head?
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 08:44:36 PM
What about a third song about the same person? Good on you Son(ny) ;)
The character grown up in the UK. Sonny Liston didn't.
Post by: goon525 on September 22, 2018, 10:53:17 PM
Post by: binone on September 24, 2018, 11:02:52 AM
Post by: skydiver on September 24, 2018, 11:06:26 AM
Thank you, wonderful!
Post by: wespresso on September 24, 2018, 11:10:57 AM
That's at the same time the trailer for the Hank Hansen MK feature film!Definitely!
Thank you, wonderful!
Looks promising.
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 28, 2018, 08:16:04 AM
What about a third song about the same person? Good on you Son(ny) ;)
Man, looks like Mark were a boxer in the past life, so many songs about boxers. What is all about, anyway? Two people bashing each other in the head?
Nope, its a bit more skilled than just 'bashing each other in the head'! Personally, boxing is a superb disciplined sport...
Post by: straitsway75 on September 28, 2018, 10:51:27 AM
Post by: Pottel on September 28, 2018, 11:13:50 AM
Radio in my country, Italy this song not played much, not in playlist in major Radio like rtl or capital, Is on air in your country radio? :thinkA bit early to make such a statement no?
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Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
Radio in my country, Italy this song not played much, not in playlist in major Radio like rtl or capital, Is on air in your country radio? :thinkA bit early to make such a statement no?
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As long as the song is out, the usual is radio stations got a promo copy to air it. MK is not trendy so I understand that in many countries or at least many of the big radio station the song is not going to be played, or very little.
Post by: straitsway75 on September 28, 2018, 12:47:50 PM
:thumbsupRadio in my country, Italy this song not played much, not in playlist in major Radio like rtl or capital, Is on air in your country radio? :thinkA bit early to make such a statement no?
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but I remember, sure too many years ago, when What it is was often on air, but also Beryl, but sure is bit early to say anything and MK not is Lady Gaga :thumbsup
Post by: Stanko on September 28, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
:thumbsupA small piece of "Good on you son"
Taken from this forum:
https://knopfler.forumfree.it/?t=75991536#
In the first moment I thought it was Early Bird :o
Post by: Stanko on September 28, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
I really love the way MK delivers the line "the Camden shuffle and the old one two" ! Makes me smile! ;D:thumbsup
yes, and to the rhythm of a cockney rebel lol
Post by: Stanko on September 28, 2018, 10:07:28 PM
"You wanna know what happiness is in his eye there* is a hunter’s gleam
Skin of a mango is so smooth (it’s?) smoother than the devil"
that there* is missing there i believe;
i can't seem to hear that it's* before smoother?
Post by: Rail King on October 01, 2018, 04:08:16 PM
Oh, boy, that was harsh.
I get what you're saying, and more than once, GF''s keyboards have put me off. Not so much the synth stuff, but more the organ sounds, for instance on Beryl. Terrible.
But, although the new single is not my favorite, and never will be, I welcome a change. We've been force-fed whistles, pipes and citterns for a long time now.
By the way, have you listened to Ry Cooder's new album? His son Joachim is a wizard with ambient sounds and computer stuff. The new album combines those sounds with folksy material in a clever way.
Haven't heard Ry Cooder's, but thanks for the hint, hunter. I wouldn't say it's impossible to combine folk and synth sounds, but it definitely doesn't work with MK/GF's approach IMO.
Post by: Rail King on October 01, 2018, 04:59:05 PM
There's an unpleasant gap before «to the rhythm of a cockney rebel» - these words come a little too late, which kind of destroys the rhythm. Know what I mean? If he would say them without pausing, it would work much better.
Now they may have recorded that vocal in one take, but seeing how much cutting, chopping and slicing the poor song had to undergo generally, they could have fixed this, too, while they were at it. Did anyone else stumble on this?
Post by: Love Expresso on October 01, 2018, 06:48:13 PM
LE
Post by: Stanko on October 01, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
No gap here ... and I think he sings it perfectly well. Timing and phrasing on vocals have always been excellent with MK and I don't detect a mistake here.:thumbsup
LE
moreover, it is the best part actually.
Post by: rockaway on October 02, 2018, 01:56:34 AM
No gap here ... and I think he sings it perfectly well. Timing and phrasing on vocals have always been excellent with MK and I don't detect a mistake here.:thumbsup
LE
moreover, it is the best part actually.
:thumbsup agreed
Post by: Rail King on October 02, 2018, 02:38:09 PM
No gap here ... and I think he sings it perfectly well. Timing and phrasing on vocals have always been excellent with MK and I don't detect a mistake here.:thumbsup
LE
moreover, it is the best part actually.
Haha, agree about it potentially being the best part (no synths!), but he does sound like he's struggling to keep the pace here vocally, for a second. OR different vocal tracks might have been pasted togetether, who knows. Anyway, I hope we'll here live versions of the song next year – then I'll certainly have examples of how I think he wanted to sing this. I do like the drum part that folllows a lot, by the way.
Post by: Love Expresso on October 02, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
LE
Post by: Rail King on October 02, 2018, 03:35:49 PM
I get what you mean, but again: No struggling here, it's paced perfectly fine. Astonishing.
LE
I'm astonished, too. I don't know about you, but I tend to sing along (at least in my head) when I listen to MK's songs, and here, the transition from «chop it up» to «to the rhythm of a cockney rebel» just isn't as smooth as it should be in IMO, spoiling the rhythm somewhat, almost like a stutter. As if he had to breathe in before that line. The more often I listen to it, the more I tend to think that they pasted different vocal tracks together here, with the result sounding accordingly. It's not a mistake per se, it just doesn't flow as nicely as it could. These are details, I know, but they matter. Especially with a singer like Mark, where it's all about the phrasing. A pity, because like you, I really do like this part of the song.
Post by: Love Expresso on October 02, 2018, 05:17:50 PM
LE
Post by: Love Expresso on October 02, 2018, 05:37:59 PM
At the screen door by his lemon tree out here with the quick and the dead
Designer blinds above LA frame the perfect view
It’s gonna be another day of sun and shameless blue
By his cutting block the time has come for the fruit there by the juicer
He grinds fresh coffee for himself he’s beaten our producer
LA Times lies on the stone warming there like bread
Hey what’s not to like out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
You wanna know what happiness is in his eye is a hunter’s gleam
Something to look forward to this cat’s gonna get the cream
Skin of a mango is so smooth it’s smoother than the devil
Cut it, slice it, chop it up to the rhythm of a cockney rebel
Back in Blighty there’s a flat on a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that and went to the Golden State
Left the backie and the beer where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here with the quick and the dead
Good on you son, good on you
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you son, good on you
What would you have had him do
The Camden shuffle and the old one-two
I was thinking about the lyrics and Mark's writing in general and it struck me (as a foreign language user) that he really has the abilitiy to use language as his working material. I marked in blue all words that he has NEVER used in all his other songs. There might be more, not sure. I think it's phenomenal, and maybe it's just that I see it because I have to translate and search everytime he comes up with new stuff. He is so eloquent. Hope you get my drift.
LE
Post by: Stanko on October 02, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
don't make me laugh!
gleam* of spur
bread* crumbs
screen* on the planet of New Orleans
blinds* on the window in private investigation
brickies chippies* (albeit half correct on this one)
i'm not sure of the other though.
but yes, i get you and i agree, he can shuffle without doubt!
Post by: Love Expresso on October 02, 2018, 06:04:47 PM
But thanks. You are right of course. Dire Straits is just too far behind for me. :P
LE
Post by: Stanko on October 02, 2018, 06:13:36 PM
Good on you son when I gave you a laugh or two!:thumbsup
But thanks. You are right of course. Dire Straits is just too far behind for me. :P
LE
than try a long cool girl! (frame*)
Post by: Love Expresso on October 02, 2018, 06:15:28 PM
LE
Post by: Stanko on October 02, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
Ok I quit.
LE
"as you wish" ;D
(i just couldn't resist) :P
Post by: Rail King on October 03, 2018, 09:29:51 AM
Hi LE,
don't make me laugh!
gleam* of spur
bread* crumbs
screen* on the planet of New Orleans
blinds* on the window in private investigation
brickies chippies* (albeit half correct on this one)
i'm not sure of the other though.
but yes, i get you and i agree, he can shuffle without doubt!
Haha, great, but you're right nevertheless, LE - he's a lyrical genius. I've no idea what that first line of GOYS means, though. "Dart and worried threat" doesn't make much sense to me.
Update: It's "darting, whirring thread". A very literary way of describing a hummingbird!
Post by: Rail King on October 03, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
Have you checked different sources of the song? Could it be a mistake? I really cannot detect anything wrong here.
LE
Ah, maybe it's just me. It has to be, if nobody else seems to mind it. There's no technical mistake, it's just that he seems to struggle with the rhythm for a second. If I sing over it loudly enough myself, it won't bother me. ;)
Post by: hunter on October 04, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
The phrase has become commonly used as a title for works of popular culture, in some cases to describe the act of gunfighting. (See The Quick and the Dead.) Modern authors use this phrase in secular contexts because of the modern English usage of the word quick[original research?] - to mean fast or smart, rather than alive - either as the result of a misunderstanding or for the purposes of creating a double entendre (i.e., quick vs. dead in the context of gun battles, wherein speed is widely believed to be a prerequisite for winning, and thereby, by implication, staying alive). In a similar vein Isaac Asimov, in explaining the term "quicksilver", jokingly suggested that modern readers probably think "the quick and the dead" is a reference to pedestrians in Los Angeles (my underscore).[citation needed]
Post by: Love Expresso on October 04, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
LE
Post by: border_reiver on October 05, 2018, 07:13:13 AM
" a darting, whirring thread"
It's like a quick whirring thread on a sewing machine.
What else could compare to that?
Ah yes. A movie reel. :)
Post by: Jasper90 on October 09, 2018, 09:11:24 PM
Just out of interest, anyone found the song on any of the streaming services yet?
With Tracker they gave Spotify the finger. So nothing can be expected there.
I also asked myself why they took Tracker form Spotify. But now also with the new single and album coming up, I think they made a new deal or something because Tracker (Deluxe) is back on Spotify 8) :)
Ps. Sorry a little bit off-topic
Post by: hunter on November 12, 2018, 12:44:14 PM
For me the initial surprise and positive reaction has cooled some, and this could become a skipper after some time. I don't in no way think it's a bad song, but it leaves me a little cold compared with the others.
Post by: Love Expresso on November 12, 2018, 12:52:14 PM
LE
Post by: vr46mk on November 12, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
But rate some higher.... One song at a Time one of them
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 12, 2018, 01:02:30 PM
Post by: superval99 on November 12, 2018, 01:19:27 PM
Now that we have had a chance to listen to all these other songs, how do you like GOYS? Has your opinion changed?
For me the initial surprise and positive reaction has cooled some, and this could become a skipper after some time. I don't in no way think it's a bad song, but it leaves me a little cold compared with the others.
I still love Dancefloor and I don't expect it to become a skipper. I still like GOYS too, but maybe a skipper after the album is released and there are better songs to enjoy.
Regarding Just a Boy - I disliked it from the moment I heard it, starting with the clunky intro. I never liked YNWA even when I first heard it in the cinema and then came the Gerry and the Pacemakers version, which was toe-curling. It's OK for football fans! Also Donegan and Junkie Doll do nothing for me either, which the song seems to be in the style of. Then the MK solo really ended all hopes of me liking it at all! :-\
Post by: Love Expresso on November 12, 2018, 01:21:57 PM
LE
Post by: quizzaciously on November 13, 2018, 10:03:48 PM
I don't know what's happening with the arrangements, but why Danny's playing bongos right from the start? It would be much better to let the guys play the intro and only then to start the bongos. I don't know, why they want to throw all in right away.
Like in One Song At A Time — why on Earth the drums starts right from the intro? It sounds so out of place. If not that, maybe I wouldn't even moan so much about drums in this song, but it's too right-in-your-face.
You can say it's too little of a detail, but it would make a HUGE difference, believe me.
Post by: jbaent on November 14, 2018, 08:15:28 AM
In the good on you BBC version, maybe was because it fit better to the quartet version for that session, in the other case, maybe we don't have the full songs... Maybe better wait until Friday but I agree, usually it sounds better arranged when drums come later, I do it a lot when playing with friends, I wait until they play some verses and then I start playing drums, first softly and at the next verse with snare. It's always a winning!
Post by: JF on November 14, 2018, 10:40:27 AM
But now I find it suits very well the whole continuity. I like very much the variations, changes on the album : tempos, keys, mood...so I listen to all tracks in a row
Post by: Wimbleman on November 19, 2018, 01:27:11 PM
I know MK likes to write character songs and (just to be clear) that I am NOT for a second suggesting this song is about that horrific evil where so many people tragically lost their lives at a country music festival. I just wonder if it was somehow playing on MK's mind and he dealt with it by writing an upbeat and positive song set in LA? Just a thought. I recall at the time being very upset about yet another gun massacre in America myself. I came up with some awful piece of heavily depressed music on guitar... just about 50 seconds, which I'd posted on facebook before quickly deleting. Sometimes we need music to deal with the evils and horrors of this world.
I still can't figure out the connection between the hummingbird and the "whirring thread". Or perhaps the dart is coming from the eyes of the character in the song as he suddenly notices the hummingbird...? The whirring thread could suggest he is on a forum spinning his mouse wheel and scrolling through the thread... a sort of whirring sound? Perhaps he is on a mango website trying to source cheaper mangos online?
Post by: Love Expresso on November 19, 2018, 01:38:54 PM
LE
Post by: Wimbleman on November 19, 2018, 01:47:59 PM
I always thought that thread was the flying path of the bird... as he is so small and fast and you can hardly follow with your eyes ...
LE
I hadn't thought of it like that. Doesn't quite work for me though. (Edit to add: oh... i see what you mean, the wing-flapping and whirring flight path of the tiny little bird being so fast it is like a squiggly and random little piece of thread. Interesting.)
I still think though that perhaps the thread could be a bird feeder hanging from his lemon tree suspended from a very thin thread which is spinning as the darting bird feeds? Interesting that the whirring sound is externalised from the apartment of the character in the song. There are other references to sound and sounds within the songs on the album. 'When You Leave', for example. Anyway... the hummingbird is out by his screendoor. I also like to think the thread could be a thread such as this on an internet forum? The whirring of mouse wheels as people try to elucidate the exact meaning? Haha! At any rate, it is a very interesting opening lyric. Perhaps the producer the central character is going to meet is... himself. That old thing about us being the producers, directors and actors of our own lives.
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 19, 2018, 02:11:30 PM
Given that Guy said on his forum that they had worked on this track for a year has anyone made a connection to the horrific massacre by Stephen Paddock at the Manderlay in LA... a whirring thread, the quick and the dead, designer blinds above LA...
I know MK likes to write character songs and (just to be clear) not for a second am I suggesting this song is about that horrific evil where so many people tragically lost their lives at a country music festival. I just wonder if it was somehow playing on MK's mind and he dealt with it by writing an upbeat and positive song set in LA? Just a thought.
Don't get that connection at all to be honest but you never know!
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 19, 2018, 02:37:37 PM
Post by: Wimbleman on November 19, 2018, 02:41:54 PM
This thread is 30 pages long already and I haven't read it all but I'll be surprised if it hasn't been noticed this song is about Woody Strode.
Well... we can at least be sure the song isn't about Woody Woodpecker! Because he wasn't a hummingbird! Hahaa!
Post by: Love Expresso on November 19, 2018, 03:17:53 PM
This thread is 30 pages long already and I haven't read it all but I'll be surprised if it hasn't been noticed this song is about Woody Strode.
And how would you bring him together with this ...
Back in Blighty there’s a flat
On a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that
And went to the Golden State
Left the baccy and the beer
Where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here
With the quick and the dead
With "Blighty" being slang for Great Britain? ;D :think
LE
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 19, 2018, 03:57:40 PM
Post by: Justme on November 19, 2018, 05:25:07 PM
I always thought that thread was the flying path of the bird... as he is so small and fast and you can hardly follow with your eyes ...
LE
I hadn't thought of it like that. Doesn't quite work for me though. (Edit to add: oh... i see what you mean, the wing-flapping and whirring flight path of the tiny little bird being so fast it is like a squiggly and random little piece of thread. Interesting.)
I still think though that perhaps the thread could be a bird feeder hanging from his lemon tree suspended from a very thin thread which is spinning as the darting bird feeds? Interesting that the whirring sound is externalised from the apartment of the character in the song. There are other references to sound and sounds within the songs on the album. 'When You Leave', for example. Anyway... the hummingbird is out by his screendoor. I also like to think the thread could be a thread such as this on an internet forum? The whirring of mouse wheels as people try to elucidate the exact meaning? Haha! At any rate, it is a very interesting opening lyric. Perhaps the producer the central character is going to meet is... himself. That old thing about us being the producers, directors and actors of our own lives.
These are interesting observations, that is for sure. You never know, even if it sounds a little far-fetched at first....
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 19, 2018, 06:33:05 PM
This thread is 30 pages long already and I haven't read it all but I'll be surprised if it hasn't been noticed this song is about Woody Strode.
And how would you bring him together with this ...
Back in Blighty there’s a flat
On a grimy sink estate
That’s why he walked out of that
And went to the Golden State
Left the baccy and the beer
Where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here
With the quick and the dead
With "Blighty" being slang for Great Britain? ;D :think
LE
I take it back, it might be about Mike Hailwood...
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 19, 2018, 06:56:29 PM
1. Hailwood was a super motorbike racer from the UK.
2. After winning pretty much everything in Europe he won his first race in the US in California (Golden State).
3. There's a picture of another famous racer Barry Sheene riding Hailwood's Ducati on the internet - and for some reason cockney rebel is tagged on it (https://www.mortonsarchive.com/v/photos/94058bgp/18448508804/x2012-barry-sheene-bookazine-classic).
4. Lemon Tree Passage Rd seems to be a motorbike racing spot in Newcastle.
And the most important one...
5. There's a doc on Formula 1 from the 1970's called "The Quick and the Dead" starring... Mike Hailwood.
Considering Mark's passion for the sport I tend to believe it makes a whole lot of sense.
Post by: Justme on November 19, 2018, 07:19:39 PM
Hints:
1. Hailwood was a super motorbike racer from the UK.
2. After winning pretty much everything in Europe he won his first race in the US in California (Golden State).
3. There's a picture of another famous racer Barry Sheene riding Hailwood's Ducati on the internet - and for some reason cockney rebel is tagged on it (https://www.mortonsarchive.com/v/photos/94058bgp/18448508804/x2012-barry-sheene-bookazine-classic).
4. Lemon Three Passage Rd seems to be a motorbike racing spot in Newcastle.
And the most important one...
5. There's a doc on Formula 1 from the 1970's called "The Quick and the Dead" starring... Mike Hailwood.
Considering Mark's passion for the sport I tend to believe it makes a whole lot of sense.
That is a proper investigation. Thank you for that!
:clap
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 19, 2018, 07:35:16 PM
Hints:
1. Hailwood was a super motorbike racer from the UK.
2. After winning pretty much everything in Europe he won his first race in the US in California (Golden State).
3. There's a picture of another famous racer Barry Sheene riding Hailwood's Ducati on the internet - and for some reason cockney rebel is tagged on it (https://www.mortonsarchive.com/v/photos/94058bgp/18448508804/x2012-barry-sheene-bookazine-classic).
4. Lemon Three Passage Rd seems to be a motorbike racing spot in Newcastle.
And the most important one...
5. There's a doc on Formula 1 from the 1970's called "The Quick and the Dead" starring... Mike Hailwood.
Considering Mark's passion for the sport I tend to believe it makes a whole lot of sense.
That is a proper investigation. Thank you for that!
:clap
That’s what happens when you have a day off and it’s raining outside lol
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 19, 2018, 07:57:16 PM
Post by: Justme on November 19, 2018, 08:09:53 PM
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 19, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Interesting thoughts but I still don't think it's correct, doesn't fit with the mango, meeting a producer etc
Isn’t mango a type of bike?
Post by: Justme on November 19, 2018, 08:19:17 PM
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 19, 2018, 08:30:27 PM
I'm not being argumentative here by the way, I want to know too :)
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 19, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
Did he ever live in LA? Would he be meeting a producer?
I'm not being argumentative here by the way, I want to know too :)
He won his first american race in California. Re the producer perhaps he had an argument with the documentary’s.
Post by: Love Expresso on November 19, 2018, 08:46:25 PM
The mango stands for a healthy life, he lives on one of the nicest places on Earth, paradise if you like, and is fully aware of what he reached and where he comes from: Complacent, like the cat that got the cream.
I think it's not automatically good songwriting by the way when so many people need so much time to crack the code of a song.
LE
Post by: Stanko on July 23, 2019, 10:02:22 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-25-ca-24772-story,amp.html