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Previous Tours => 2019 Down The Road Wherever EU & NA tour => Topic started by: zeusjazmin on September 19, 2018, 04:41:09 PM

Title: the new tour
Post by: zeusjazmin on September 19, 2018, 04:41:09 PM
reading all the posts regarding presale concert tickets with new purchases,do we think that will take over from the usual fan presale from mk.com?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ingridswing on September 19, 2018, 04:55:23 PM
reading all the posts regarding presale concert tickets with new purchases,do we think that will take over from the usual fan presale from mk.com?

I asked markknopfler.com already by mail, no answer yet
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 19, 2018, 10:23:29 PM
Any hints when we can expect the tourdates?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: quizzaciously on September 19, 2018, 10:37:04 PM
Any hints when we can expect the tourdates?

Soon.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ingridswing on September 19, 2018, 10:40:21 PM
reading all the posts regarding presale concert tickets with new purchases,do we think that will take over from the usual fan presale from mk.com?



I asked markknopfler.com already by mail, no answer yet

They answered, members of  markknopfler.com will have presale as usual
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: zeusjazmin on September 19, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
great to hear that,cant book family holiday in case it clashes with tour
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 19, 2018, 10:50:16 PM
Any hints when we can expect the tourdates?

Soon.
:smack
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: binone on September 20, 2018, 09:57:14 AM
I think there will be different presales, the mk.com, the virginemi, and maybe, others
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2018, 10:00:08 AM
I'm just want to add this information from MK.com to this thread:

all MarkKnopfler.com pre-order customers will receive a complimentary future live recording from the forthcoming tour. More information on that and how our customers can take advantage of this very special offer will be provided in the coming weeks.

They are talking in singular...  "recording", like they are going to offer just one to everybody.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ds1984 on September 20, 2018, 01:12:47 PM
I'm just want to add this information from MK.com to this thread:

all MarkKnopfler.com pre-order customers will receive a complimentary future live recording from the forthcoming tour. More information on that and how our customers can take advantage of this very special offer will be provided in the coming weeks.

They are talking in singular...  "recording", like they are going to offer just one to everybody.

As they did by the past. Nothing new to me.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: skydiver on September 21, 2018, 10:53:49 AM
If I understand it correctly, Guy said Danny is back in the touring band.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 21, 2018, 11:01:35 AM
If I understand it correctly, Guy said Danny is back in the touring band.

Yes, I understand the same.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: skydiver on September 21, 2018, 11:03:38 AM
If I understand it correctly, Guy said Danny is back in the touring band.

Yes, I understand the same.

If he is in the band as a percussionist and not replacing IanTo as drummer, that would be something very interesting, indeed!!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 21, 2018, 11:41:05 AM
Pretty big touring band then.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dvschend on September 21, 2018, 11:54:28 AM
Is presale even a good thing? Last tour I got tickets in presale through MK.com for Amsterdam, I was placed in row 20, while others in regular sale were placed in rows in front of me. Tour before that I got tickets in row 6 in regular sale while presale ticket holders were behind me in row 15.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 21, 2018, 12:01:40 PM
Is presale even a good thing? Last tour I got tickets in presale through MK.com for Amsterdam, I was placed in row 20, while others in regular sale were placed in rows in front of me. Tour before that I got tickets in row 6 in regular sale while presale ticket holders were behind me in row 15.
in general we were always better of with the MK.com tickets, the one or the other exception can be excepted.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 21, 2018, 12:16:35 PM
Is presale even a good thing? Last tour I got tickets in presale through MK.com for Amsterdam, I was placed in row 20, while others in regular sale were placed in rows in front of me. Tour before that I got tickets in row 6 in regular sale while presale ticket holders were behind me in row 15.

Presale is very tricky thing...

MK.com has reservation for, lets say, the first 20 rows in a venue. So the fact that you buy the tickets in MK.com doesn't means you have tickets in the better row, in row 1, for example. It depends in many factors, like how fast are you buying, for example.

Apart of this, sometimes the venues has agreements with other sellers or sponsors, like vodafone, amex etc, and the venue reserve the better rows (let´s say from 1 to 10) to that sponsors, some others (10-20 rows) to MK.com and the rest in general sale...

Or, some venues reserve just rows 10-20 to MK.com and the rest in general...

Every venue has its agreements with MK.com and other retailers and sometimes is difficult to know what to do. For example, 2013 tour, there were four presales for RAH at the same time, MK.com, ticketmaster, ticketline and RAH site, and each one had their owns seats reserved. I wanted seats at the stalls and it was difficult to find which of the four had that tickets!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Love Expresso on September 21, 2018, 12:26:58 PM
Danny being back in the tour band: Best news of the day so far?  :wave :D

LE
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 21, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
Danny being back in the tour band: Best news of the day so far?  :wave :D

LE

Yes, it gives some hope that they would shake things in the setlist...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: crimmer on September 21, 2018, 12:29:25 PM
Danny being back in the tour band: Best news of the day so far?  :wave :D

LE

Yes sounds great news , bet Ingrid will be happy she has missed danny's drumming
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 21, 2018, 12:48:26 PM
Very interesting indeed that Danny will be back.  Now that we have Nigel firmly installed too does this mean that the folkies are on their way out?  I cannot criticise them and they have added a great deal to Mark's music over the years but I think a change in direction is needed.  This would please me no end and shake up the set too.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pyroaction on September 21, 2018, 02:08:38 PM
Do you think John McCusker and Mike McGoldrick will be part of the touring band ?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 21, 2018, 02:48:42 PM
Do you think John McCusker and Mike McGoldrick will be part of the touring band ?

No.  The problem with OES tour was that it was all too big, including the huge band and not just the entourage.  I think with Nigel now installed and Danny rejoining, Mark will not want such a big band again.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 21, 2018, 03:00:14 PM
Do you think John McCusker and Mike McGoldrick will be part of the touring band ?

No.  The problem with OES tour was that it was all too big, including the huge band and not just the entourage.  I think with Nigel now installed and Danny rejoining, Mark will not want such a big band again.

I don't think so either.   I'm very fond of the folkies, but we are in dire need of a change this time and a whole new set list!   :)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 21, 2018, 03:25:51 PM
Do we know if the folkies were involved in the recoding of the album this time around?  I remember they were busy with Celtic Connections and some other stuff during a lot of the studio time.  If not it would make sense for a change and bodes well for a set list revision.

Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 21, 2018, 03:33:52 PM
Do we know if the folkies were involved in the recoding of the album this time around?  I remember they were busy with Celtic Connections and some other stuff during a lot of the studio time.  If not it would make sense for a change and bodes well for a set list revision.

Yes, they are amongst the musicians named on the album. 
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pyroaction on September 21, 2018, 03:37:46 PM
Do we know if the folkies were involved in the recoding of the album this time around?
Yes they were.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Banjo99uk on September 21, 2018, 03:54:54 PM
But is Danny back as the drummer or percussionist. I can’t believe that he will drop Ianto, unless he’s not available.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 21, 2018, 04:08:15 PM
I think Danny is back to play percussion, like on the new album. I would not be so sure about Mike and John leaving, there also flutes and pipes on the new album and lots on previous albums.....
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 21, 2018, 04:41:16 PM
I think John and Mike stay in the touring band. They must play Marbletown, remember?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: holaknopfler on September 21, 2018, 04:42:10 PM
I think John and Mike stay in the touring band. They must play Marbletown, remember?

I hope he skips that one, good song but heard it too many times
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 21, 2018, 05:14:12 PM
I think Danny is back to play percussion, like on the new album. I would not be so sure about Mike and John leaving, there also flutes and pipes on the new album and lots on previous albums.....
Guy confirmed he will be in the touring band

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Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: straitsway75 on September 21, 2018, 05:26:18 PM
Too much persons on the stage ...10 I suppose, Too noise like in OES tour, in SL tour no pipes, no percussions, great set-list, IMO Best tour, together GH..will see
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: holaknopfler on September 21, 2018, 05:36:28 PM
I think Danny is back to play percussion, like on the new album. I would not be so sure about Mike and John leaving, there also flutes and pipes on the new album and lots on previous albums.....
Guy confirmed he will be in the touring band

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Great to hear that Danny is back. Maybe they’ll do calling Elvis again, the OES version...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: El Macho on September 21, 2018, 06:27:28 PM
Will the girls singing backing vocals on tour ?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ds1984 on September 21, 2018, 06:34:37 PM
The problem with the folkies is that they should have not stayed more than four the 2006 and 2008 tours.

I hope for a stripped back to 2005 band format with 3 backing singers and listen to what they deliver...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: quizzaciously on September 21, 2018, 06:37:43 PM
The problem with the folkies is that they should have not stayed more than four the 2006 and 2008 tours.

I hope for a stripped back to 2005 band format with 3 backing singers and listen to what they deliver...

You can't have 3 backing singers for just a couple of songs, for that you have to reinvent the whole set and arrangements.

Now... Do you really believe in that? :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ds1984 on September 21, 2018, 06:49:18 PM
The problem with the folkies is that they should have not stayed more than four the 2006 and 2008 tours.

I hope for a stripped back to 2005 band format with 3 backing singers and listen to what they deliver...

You can't have 3 backing singers for just a couple of songs, for that you have to reinvent the whole set and arrangements.

Now... Do you really believe in that? :lol :lol :lol

Hope is not believing but that is a start.

Regarding the backing singer, the band is already doing backing so not a revolution but an evolution.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 21, 2018, 06:55:47 PM
The problem with the folkies is that they should have not stayed more than four the 2006 and 2008 tours.

I hope for a stripped back to 2005 band format with 3 backing singers and listen to what they deliver...

The 2006 tour didn't have Mike and John in the band - it was Stuart Duncan.   In 2008 it was only John - Mike joined him in 2010.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Vesper on September 21, 2018, 06:56:42 PM
I would love to have Robbie in the band as well. Preferably in addition to Richard. (Incl. Nigel and Danny, without the folkies)
What a band that would be! Would really make it possible to shake the setlist up!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: El Macho on September 21, 2018, 07:01:16 PM
Is Ianto out if Danny gets in ?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pyroaction on September 21, 2018, 09:25:49 PM
Too much persons on the stage ...10 I suppose, [...]
If you add management staff, the Gulfstream will be too small ...  :smack
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: JF on September 21, 2018, 10:04:43 PM
I would love to have Robbie in the band as well. Preferably in addition to Richard. (Incl. Nigel and Danny, without the folkies)
What a band that would be! Would really make it possible to shake the setlist up!

+1000 for Robbie
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ds1984 on September 21, 2018, 11:40:47 PM
The problem with the folkies is that they should have not stayed more than four the 2006 and 2008 tours.

I hope for a stripped back to 2005 band format with 3 backing singers and listen to what they deliver...

The 2006 tour didn't have Mike and John in the band - it was Stuart Duncan. In 2008 it was only John - Mike joined him in 2010.

I don't make it a question of person but a matter of style.

IMHO 2010 would have been better without folkies and was really the start of the Mark Knopfler's Comfort Zone Touring Band.

Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 22, 2018, 12:00:16 AM
Is Ianto out if Danny gets in ?
That would really surprise me. Ianto on the drums and Danny on percussion i would think....
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: crimmer on September 22, 2018, 03:58:08 AM
oh I do hope he doesn't go back too the synth straits days!! , folkies all the way for me please!!! , just want some blues , folk and blues and jazz please for me !! lol

 enjoy what ever setlist he plays really when im there (if its well played )
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2018, 11:12:13 AM
Guy has confirmed that John and Mike will be in the touring band.   I wonder if Richard will be on tour - or will it be Robbie?   :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 11:37:19 AM
Same band of that tour plus Danny Cummings ok percussion and Tom Walsh on trumpet...

They are going to need extra large stage...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2018, 11:41:28 AM
Same band of that tour plus Danny Cummings ok percussion and Tom Walsh on trumpet...

They are going to need extra large stage...

Sounds exciting - could be jazzy!    It's going to be a long wait!    :)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 11:42:50 AM
Same band of that tour plus Danny Cummings ok percussion and Tom Walsh on trumpet...

They are going to need extra large stage...

Sounds exciting - could be jazzy!    It's going to be a long wait!    :)

Yes... It looks like a tour I'm gonna want to buy as much tickets as I can!!!!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2018, 11:45:08 AM
Same band of that tour plus Danny Cummings ok percussion and Tom Walsh on trumpet...

They are going to need extra large stage...

Sounds exciting - could be jazzy!    It's going to be a long wait!    :)

Yes... It looks like a tour I'm gonna want to buy as much tickets as I can!!!!

I hope I meet you somewhere, at last, jbaent!     :)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 11:57:14 AM
Same band of that tour plus Danny Cummings ok percussion and Tom Walsh on trumpet...

They are going to need extra large stage...

Sounds exciting - could be jazzy!    It's going to be a long wait!    :)

Yes... It looks like a tour I'm gonna want to buy as much tickets as I can!!!!

I hope I meet you somewhere, at last, jbaent!     :)

Let's cross fingers for a good date in Leeds!!! ;)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2018, 11:59:24 AM
Same band of that tour plus Danny Cummings ok percussion and Tom Walsh on trumpet...

They are going to need extra large stage...

Sounds exciting - could be jazzy!    It's going to be a long wait!    :)

Yes... It looks like a tour I'm gonna want to buy as much tickets as I can!!!!

I hope I meet you somewhere, at last, jbaent!     :)

Let's cross fingers for a good date in Leeds!!! ;)

Yes, crossed fingers for Leeds Arena!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 22, 2018, 12:50:43 PM
Guy has confirmed that John and Mike will be in the touring band.   I wonder if Richard will be on tour - or will it be Robbie?   :think

Oh, I didn't want to wake up to this.  You're the bearer of bad news Val.  :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief

Hopefully they won't be overused this time around but it looks like Marblebore is still keeping it's place in the set then and maybe not as many changes as I had hoped for.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 22, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
The touring band will be the same as last time with the addition of Danny on percussion and Tom Walsh on Trumpet.
So i think many news songs from the new album and always 5 or 6 DS classics plus songs like What it is, STP and Speedway. Perhaps Border Reiver again  :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
Guy has confirmed that John and Mike will be in the touring band.   I wonder if Richard will be on tour - or will it be Robbie?   :think

Oh, I didn't want to wake up to this.  You're the bearer of bad news Val.  :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief

Hopefully they won't be overused this time around but it looks like Marblebore is still keeping it's place in the set then and maybe not as many changes as I had hoped for.

I'm ready to let Marbletown go now, dmg.  I have more than enough recordings to keep me happy!    ;D     Maybe it will be dropped from the next set list and something new for the folkies to get their teeth into!   :)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 22, 2018, 01:11:14 PM
Guy has confirmed that John and Mike will be in the touring band.   I wonder if Richard will be on tour - or will it be Robbie?   :think

Oh, I didn't want to wake up to this.  You're the bearer of bad news Val.  :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief

Hopefully they won't be overused this time around but it looks like Marblebore is still keeping it's place in the set then and maybe not as many changes as I had hoped for.

I'm ready to let Marbletown go now, dmg.  I have more than enough recordings to keep me happy!    ;D     Maybe it will be dropped from the next set list and something new for the folkies to get their teeth into!   :)

Border Reiver, Privateering, Haul Away and Piper to the End are plenty thank-you! 

I think with so many musicians on tour we might see the folkies going on and off the stage (mostly off).  ;D
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 22, 2018, 01:15:31 PM
Already looking forward to the first concert with live real time setlist being dropped here.. or even better a live recording who someone put up here... That was fun!!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 22, 2018, 02:30:02 PM
Marbletown with Trumpet :D :D :D :D

 :-\
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: binone on September 22, 2018, 03:01:30 PM
Already looking forward to the first concert with live real time setlist being dropped here.. or even better a live recording who someone put up here... That was fun!!
I did the broadcast of Dublin. This time won't be possible, I think. Hope anybody will do again , technology is there.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 03:03:26 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: border_reiver on September 22, 2018, 03:06:15 PM
Marbletown with Trumpet :D :D :D :D

 :-\

Longest. Pee break. Ever.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 22, 2018, 03:16:12 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
Radio city serenade
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 03:17:13 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
Radio city serenade

I love that one!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Jasper90 on September 22, 2018, 05:35:56 PM
Or “The last Laugh”  ;D
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 22, 2018, 06:23:53 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
El macho, yes pls...and camerado too now we're at it

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Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
El macho, yes pls...and camerado too now we're at it

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Yes... Camerado... That great trumpet and percussion...

Yes ..
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: quizzaciously on September 22, 2018, 06:53:14 PM
Marbletown with Trumpet :D :D :D :D

 :-\

Longest. Pee break. Ever.

 :lol :lol :lol

By the way, sax ant trumpet together can create sort of backing singers effect, so it's a clever move from economical point of view lol.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: kaleo74 on September 22, 2018, 07:36:34 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
El macho, yes pls...and camerado too now we're at it

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Yes... Camerado... That great trumpet and percussion...

Yes ..

 My party ? Easy song, no need for vertuoso solos
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: primi on September 22, 2018, 07:39:27 PM
My party ? Easy song, no need for vertuoso solos

That would make me buy a ticket.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 22, 2018, 07:48:53 PM
In the sky.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: PensaGhost on September 22, 2018, 07:55:24 PM
Where do you think you're going with David on 2nd guitar ....
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: rmarques821 on September 22, 2018, 08:05:31 PM
Without having heard the rest of the new album, I would go for this as a prediction:

01 - Border Reiver
02 - Good On You Son
03 - So Far From The Clyde
04 - Cannibals
05 - Hill Farmer's Blues
06 - Romeo And Juliet
07 - Your Latest Trick
08 - Sultans of Swing
09 - Rudiger (Or song from the new album)
10 - Boom, Like That
11 - Silver Eagle
12 - On Every Street
13 - Brothers In Arms
14 - Are We In Trouble Now
15 - So Far Away
16 - The Long Highway

I don't know if Mark would shake up the setlist this way, but do you guys think it's realistic?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Robson on September 22, 2018, 08:10:37 PM
Same band of that tour plus Danny Cummings ok percussion and Tom Walsh on trumpet...

They are going to need extra large stage...

This is a surprising message.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 22, 2018, 08:38:21 PM
Where do you think you're going with David on 2nd guitar ....
With so many people on stage i think a lot off songs from the first 2/3 DS records will not make it to the setlist. Only sultans.   
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 22, 2018, 08:42:13 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
El macho, yes pls...and camerado too now we're at it

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Yes... Camerado... That great trumpet and percussion...

Yes ..
No, camerado needs no special reason. 

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Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Stanko on September 22, 2018, 09:28:06 PM
Songs with trumpet and percussion...

El Macho has both

Coyote has trumpet and different elements of percussion will fit

Metroland has an intro of trumpet, also your latest trick.
El macho, yes pls...and camerado too now we're at it

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now add marble town here and i'm totally at it!
 8)
I love that one so much really!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2018, 09:49:11 PM
Looks like some of you doesn't know what a trumpet is...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 22, 2018, 09:52:09 PM
Looks like some of you doesn't know what a trumpet is...
House animal of the USA president?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Stanko on September 22, 2018, 10:24:00 PM
Looks like some of you doesn't know what a trumpet is...
you know nothing Jon Snow!
 ;D
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 22, 2018, 11:08:28 PM
Looks like some of you doesn't know what a trumpet is...

Can we have a list of songs that have trumpet/sax and percussion in it......................
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Jasper90 on September 22, 2018, 11:52:46 PM
Looks like some of you doesn't know what a trumpet is...

Can we have a list of songs that have trumpet/sax and percussion in it......................

Songs with trompet / sax.
Quickly out of my head with looking at all the titles of the tracks from DS and MK :

DS
Your latest trick (intro trompet/rest sax)
On every street (suprano sax + Percussion)
My parties (sax + percussion)
Planet of New Orleans (sax)
Solid Rock live (On the Night) 8)
Private Investigation live (On the Night)
Ride Across the River (Sax + Trompet)
Portobelle belle (Sax)
Two Young Lovers (Sax)

Solo
El Macho (Flugelhorn/Bugle)
The Last Laugh (trompet and sax?)
One More Matinee (Flugelhorn/Bugle)
Coyote (trompet)
In the sky (sax)
Radio City Serenade (Trompet)
Dream Of the Drowned Submariner (not a sax or trompet, its a Clarinet but I put it on this list)
River Towns (Sax)
Wherever I Go (Sax + trompet)
Good on you son (sax)
Going Home (sax)
Metroland (intro trompet)
If this is Goodbye (Trompet)
Behind With the Rent (Trompet)

About percussion, then I have to start listening again :P.
The first ones comes to mind is ofcourse Calling Elvis, Water of Love, Punish the Monkey or Summer of Love.
But to have both (sax/trompet and percussion) I think I only know the 2 I've written in the list  :think


So correct me if I'm wrong or if I forgot something  ;)  :think
Title: the new tour
Post by: Mossguitar on September 23, 2018, 12:30:32 AM
Ride across the river sax/trumpet
Portobello belle, sax
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Marnix on September 23, 2018, 06:54:22 AM
You can also add Two Young Lovers at the list of sax songs
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 23, 2018, 07:27:40 AM
It's not sax what matters but trumpet. There was sax already in the last tours. What's new is the trumpet...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Love Expresso on September 23, 2018, 10:02:20 AM
On "El Macho" (and on "One More Matinee" too) it's not a Trumpet but a Flugelhorn.

LE
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: vancip on September 23, 2018, 11:39:54 AM
With so many people on stage i think a lot off songs from the first 2/3 DS records will not make it to the setlist. Only sultans.

maybe with the horns section like Anastasio arrangement  :hmm
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: mschaap on September 23, 2018, 12:56:05 PM
To my ears there’s trumpet on One More Matinée, and how fantastic would it be to hear that terrific song live. Also Tom Walsh played trumpet on Wherever I Go. And there’s trumpet on If This is Goodbye, also a good one for next tour. And there’s Say Too Much, but they can leave that one out if you ask me. On the other hand the Metroland Theme (instrumental) and A Walk In Paris would be nice, though there’re not specifically trumpet tunes. Behind With The Rent is also great and includes trumpet, but I don’t believe Mark would be able to sing that one properly nowadays.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Jasper90 on September 23, 2018, 01:48:51 PM
On "El Macho" (and on "One More Matinee" too) it's not a Trumpet but a Flugelhorn.

LE

Oh yeah, your totally right! I changed it, and updated the list..  But I guess Tom Walsh can play also Flugelhorn  ;D  :P
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: quizzaciously on September 23, 2018, 02:01:46 PM
Don't forget, that this "horn section" can also act in a sort of "backing singers" mode, so you can throw basically any song with many voices in.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: skydiver on September 23, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
Maybe Tom and Nigel are only on for a few single tracks.
...in order to not expect a rather unrealistic complete overhaul of the setlist and then being disillusioned and killing Guy again.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 23, 2018, 03:06:31 PM
Since Ktgc tour in 2008 that was the first major change regarding setlist, the repertoire needs a good shake. It's about time.

According to Guy, there are plans to sell the live recordings again.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: binone on September 23, 2018, 03:38:13 PM
YEAH!!!!  8)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Robson on September 23, 2018, 03:51:44 PM
I'm happy, but I would like to have a cover album. I go to the store and buy. But it is probably impossible.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Jasper90 on September 23, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
Don't forget, that this "horn section" can also act in a sort of "backing singers" mode, so you can throw basically any song with many voices in.

For shure true! But atleast they have to play a few songs where the trompet and the sax are kind of importent. Otherwise it doesn’t make sence to get a trompetist and a sax player right? :think. With only Nigel they also played some more “sax” (Your latest trick, On every Street (sopransax)) songs or intros. But ofcourse I could be wrong  ;)

Cool to have the live recordings again! 8)
But that does probably also mean that we can kind of forget an official live release (Dvd, Blu-ray or cd).
Ah well atleast a lot of live recordings  ;D
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 23, 2018, 04:20:56 PM
Don't forget, that this "horn section" can also act in a sort of "backing singers" mode, so you can throw basically any song with many voices in.

For shure true! But atleast they have to play a few songs where the trompet and the sax are kind of importent. Otherwise it doesn’t make sence to get a trompetist and a sax player right? :think. With only Nigel they also played some more “sax” (Your latest trick, On every Street (sopransax)) songs or intros. But ofcourse I could be wrong  ;)

Cool to have the live recordings again! 8)
But that does probably also mean that we can kind of forget an official live release (Dvd, Blu-ray or cd).
Ah well atleast a lot of live recordings  ;D
Maybe there are a lot of trumpet songs on the new album.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Jasper90 on September 23, 2018, 05:20:54 PM
Don't forget, that this "horn section" can also act in a sort of "backing singers" mode, so you can throw basically any song with many voices in.

For shure true! But atleast they have to play a few songs where the trompet and the sax are kind of importent. Otherwise it doesn’t make sence to get a trompetist and a sax player right? :think. With only Nigel they also played some more “sax” (Your latest trick, On every Street (sopransax)) songs or intros. But ofcourse I could be wrong  ;)

Cool to have the live recordings again! 8)
But that does probably also mean that we can kind of forget an official live release (Dvd, Blu-ray or cd).
Ah well atleast a lot of live recordings  ;D
Maybe there are a lot of trumpet songs on the new album.

That could also be the case  ;D.
Maybe now we also get 4/5 minute trompet solos  :lol
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ds1984 on September 23, 2018, 05:32:24 PM
Well I bet that Mark will use them in an unexpected way regarding what I read here. The studio version is one thing but the live arrangement is another, especially for songs recorded years ago. Mark had time to change his mind about "how" to perform them, so maybe some songs will follow the standard rules (YLT reproducing the BIA album intro?) but others will be performed quite differently.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 25, 2018, 09:47:44 PM
Just going back to the live recordings and a question of Guy's forum asked by someone remarking that their quality has become worse since 2010.  Guy answered with this reassuring reply that bodes well for the forthcoming recordings:

"Most of that is out of my hands but yes, the last tour the live mixes weren't great. This tour will be different."

Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Stanko on September 25, 2018, 10:26:34 PM
Just going back to the live recordings and a question of Guy's forum asked by someone remarking that their quality has become worse since 2010.  Guy answered with this reassuring reply that bodes well for the forthcoming recordings:

"Most of that is out of my hands but yes, the last tour the live mixes weren't great. This tour will be different."
:thumbsup
now it's official i would not hesitate but agree on that one.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: kaleo74 on September 25, 2018, 11:37:30 PM
Just going back to the live recordings and a question of Guy's forum asked by someone remarking that their quality has become worse since 2010.  Guy answered with this reassuring reply that bodes well for the forthcoming recordings:

"Most of that is out of my hands but yes, the last tour the live mixes weren't great. This tour will be different."
:thumbsup
now it's official i would not hesitate but agree on that one.

I asked the same thing but he didn’t want to answer lol, anyway, I think that it becomes obvious and I’m pretty sure we’ll have a great mixing for the coming tour.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
I wonder how much it would take the tour to be announced... first dates for Tracker tour were announced on September 16th 2014, Privateering ones on August 27th 2012...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 26, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
I wonder how much it would take the tour to be announced... first dates for Tracker tour were announced on September 16th 2014, Privateering ones on August 27th 2012...

My bet would be around the same time the album will be out.  :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 27, 2018, 12:57:14 PM
I wonder how much it would take the tour to be announced... first dates for Tracker tour were announced on September 16th 2014, Privateering ones on August 27th 2012...

My bet would be around the same time the album will be out.  :think

I would've guessed just after the release too, however looking at these dates from Jbaent it appears the previous tours were announced before the album release.  I suppose they can release the dates well before tickets actually going on sale mind you.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: stormbreaker on September 27, 2018, 10:03:00 PM
I personally hope they will wait as long as possible, because I'm very busy now and buying tickets is, like Ingrid or pratical chair says, a millitary operation.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 27, 2018, 11:01:10 PM
If they use the same strategy like some previous tours tickets will go on sale before the album is out.
I guess his ticketsales are not depending on a new album. They will sell anyway.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 08:42:25 AM
However, last tours were announced little by little, for example Spanish concerts were announced in two times, firsts one to be announced were the German and British ones if I recall correctly...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 28, 2018, 08:57:35 AM
I really do hope this time they will announce all the dates at the same day!!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 08:59:05 AM
I really do hope this time they will announce all the dates at the same day!!

That's the ideal but it's very unlikely.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 28, 2018, 09:03:54 AM
I really do hope this time they will announce all the dates at the same day!!

That's the ideal but it's very unlikely.

How hard can it be? It is not something unique. Enough examples. Stones U2 GnR AC/DC Paul Simon and many many more......
To be honest, the way MK or his management does this is very rare...
Name me one band who puts out a European tour in 4 / 5 different announcements  :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 09:09:06 AM
I really do hope this time they will announce all the dates at the same day!!

That's the ideal but it's very unlikely.

How hard can it be? It is not something unique. Enough examples. Stones U2 GnR AC/DC Paul Simon and many many more......
Maybe MK doesn't sell as much as we think and he has a cache. Some promoters would have to work real hard to get concerts closed and that's why dates would be  announced in different batches, because it might be complicate to close deals with promoters and cities...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 28, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
I really do hope this time they will announce all the dates at the same day!!

That's the ideal but it's very unlikely.

How hard can it be? It is not something unique. Enough examples. Stones U2 GnR AC/DC Paul Simon and many many more......
Maybe MK doesn't sell as much as we think and he has a cache. Some promoters would have to work real hard to get concerts closed and that's why dates would be  announced in different batches, because it might be complicate to close deals with promoters and cities...
Somehow i found that hard to believe, the part that promoters have to work hard to get concerts closed. I believe MK can be booked in every main city in Europe with a venue up to 15.000 people. Put it on sale 6 months before tour starts, use internet and tv spots in some countries to promote the concert and in the end it will be close to or be sold out...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 09:47:48 AM
In Spain for example he doesn't do more than 8.000, and that would be a maximum...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 28, 2018, 10:12:57 AM
Okay i understand but then again his name is big enough to sell tickets for concerts in cities like Madrid Barcelona Amsterdam Antwerp Berlin Paris Munchen Rome Lisbon Krakow Oslo Kopenhagen Zurich.
But if they book him for 10 concerts in Germany only like on the Tracker tour then understand there is some work to be done for the promoters............ ???
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 28, 2018, 10:32:10 AM
Okay i understand but then again his name is big enough to sell tickets for concerts in cities like Madrid Barcelona Amsterdam Antwerp Berlin Paris Munchen Rome Lisbon Krakow Oslo Kopenhagen Zurich.
But if they book him for 10 concerts in Germany only like on the Tracker tour then understand there is some work to be done for the promoters............ ???
do not get the second sentence, the german concerts do not exclude the possibility for the other cities?
also, let us not forget our south american, asian pacific (including kiwi and oz) here they have a right to complain, us,....not really
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 11:27:17 AM
Okay i understand but then again his name is big enough to sell tickets for concerts in cities like Madrid Barcelona Amsterdam Antwerp Berlin Paris Munchen Rome Lisbon Krakow Oslo Kopenhagen Zurich.
But if they book him for 10 concerts in Germany only like on the Tracker tour then understand there is some work to be done for the promoters............ ???

MK sales are very good in some countries and just decent in others. Local promoters usually before to hire a MK concert use to see the figures of the last concerts of MK in similar venues from previous tours to think if it worths in economical terms. Sometimes the promoters see that what PCM ask is higher that what they would do with selling tickets so they search for sponsors to help with the economic part. That search of money is what takes time and what makes it costs more time to close the deals.

MK sells better in some countries than in others. For example, in Spain MK used to play in the Palau Sant Jordi in Barcelona, with a capacity of 17.000 people. They used to place the stage in the middle of the arena leaving half venue empty behind, so the capacity is reduced to about 8.000 or even less as long as they put chairs in the arena, 8.000 would be for standing arena, with chairs that capacity is again reduced and even that, the venue is not sold out. You have a clear example of numbers here. An MK concert costs the same to promoters if you have a venue of 7.000 people than a venue for 15.000, so the promoter makes less money, and sometimes there is a big risk of losing money.
Avoiding that chance of losing money is what takes times, sometimes a lot.

Last tours, MK in Barcelona played at the Poble Espanyol square, with an standing capacity of 5.000 and it didn't sold out either... that concert is usually one of the last from the Spanish batch to be announced, because it's not easy with that number of people attending to cover what the concert costs, and you have to close many deals to make sure you don't loose money with it.

Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: binone on September 28, 2018, 11:49:04 AM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?

That's one of the things local promoters could do to not loose or win money with the concert, put higher prices... but higher prices would mean less sales as well, MK is not Dire Straits.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on September 28, 2018, 12:49:06 PM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?

That's one of the things local promoters could do to not loose or win money with the concert, put higher prices... but higher prices would mean less sales as well, MK is not Dire Straits.

I would pay more if they had two fewer in the band!  Guess who.  Go on!  ;D

Prices have gone up every tour though and with a larger band it is a certainty they will increase this time. 

I was just hoping for small venues, small tour à la Golden Heart but I can't see it as I don't think it would be economically viable.  :-\
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 12:52:58 PM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?

That's one of the things local promoters could do to not loose or win money with the concert, put higher prices... but higher prices would mean less sales as well, MK is not Dire Straits.

I would pay more if they had two fewer in the band!  Guess who.  Go on!  ;D

Prices have gone up every tour though and with a larger band it is a certainty they will increase this time. 

I was just hoping for small venues, small tour à la Golden Heart but I can't see it as I don't think it would be economically viable.  :-\

Not with this band... maybe if Glenn, Jim and Richard leaves their spots and Robbie, Marcus and other keyboard player joins, the costs will be very reduced... I'm sure that the Americans are very expensive musicians to have them on tour, as they are very demanded sessions players that will loose many sessions while on tour.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 28, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?

That's one of the things local promoters could do to not loose or win money with the concert, put higher prices... but higher prices would mean less sales as well, MK is not Dire Straits.

Bigger venues. Example and not a good one i know..... He can play the O2 in London or he can do RAH 4/5 times..... Another one: Belgium, Lotto Arena or Vorst National, both have about 8000 people or he can play Sportpaleis who can have about 20.000.
Or is this something promoters do not take in consideration?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 01:24:14 PM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?

That's one of the things local promoters could do to not loose or win money with the concert, put higher prices... but higher prices would mean less sales as well, MK is not Dire Straits.

Bigger venues. Example and not a good one i know..... He can play the O2 in London or he can do RAH 4/5 times..... Another one: Belgium, Lotto Arena or Vorst National, both have about 8000 people or he can play Sportpaleis who can have about 20.000.
Or is this something promoters do not take in consideration?

You have to fill a big venue to make money. Usually big venues are more expensive.

Probably with people that went one night to the O2 MK would had filled the RAH three times so they save two dates but bigger venues can't be used always, think about the Palau Sant Jordi from Barcelona example I put before. It has a 17.000 capacity, but MK will only sell between 5.000 to 7.000 tickets there so, why you want a big venue that would be more than half empty?

Nonsense.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 28, 2018, 02:05:25 PM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?

That's one of the things local promoters could do to not loose or win money with the concert, put higher prices... but higher prices would mean less sales as well, MK is not Dire Straits.

Bigger venues. Example and not a good one i know..... He can play the O2 in London or he can do RAH 4/5 times..... Another one: Belgium, Lotto Arena or Vorst National, both have about 8000 people or he can play Sportpaleis who can have about 20.000.
Or is this something promoters do not take in consideration?

You have to fill a big venue to make money. Usually big venues are more expensive.

Probably with people that went one night to the O2 MK would had filled the RAH three times so they save two dates but bigger venues can't be used always, think about the Palau Sant Jordi from Barcelona example I put before. It has a 17.000 capacity, but MK will only sell between 5.000 to 7.000 tickets there so, why you want a big venue that would be more than half empty?

Nonsense.
I understand your point.
Then something else, only one concert in a bigger venue also means only one night for hotels and all that stuff that comes with being on tour. Does MK has something to say in this?? I really wonder how they make a tourschedule like this and who decides when and where (city and venue) they will play.....
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 02:11:03 PM
With more musicians involved in the show, the cache should rise. Maybe higer prices of the tickets?

That's one of the things local promoters could do to not loose or win money with the concert, put higher prices... but higher prices would mean less sales as well, MK is not Dire Straits.

Bigger venues. Example and not a good one i know..... He can play the O2 in London or he can do RAH 4/5 times..... Another one: Belgium, Lotto Arena or Vorst National, both have about 8000 people or he can play Sportpaleis who can have about 20.000.
Or is this something promoters do not take in consideration?

You have to fill a big venue to make money. Usually big venues are more expensive.

Probably with people that went one night to the O2 MK would had filled the RAH three times so they save two dates but bigger venues can't be used always, think about the Palau Sant Jordi from Barcelona example I put before. It has a 17.000 capacity, but MK will only sell between 5.000 to 7.000 tickets there so, why you want a big venue that would be more than half empty?

Nonsense.
I understand your point.
Then something else, only one concert in a bigger venue also means only one night for hotels and all that stuff that comes with being on tour. Does MK has something to say in this?? I really wonder how they make a tourschedule like this and who decides when and where (city and venue) they will play.....

PCM with the promoters.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jabbathehut on September 28, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
I expect the tickets to be shockingly expensive in line with current prices for indoor shows but they will still sell
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 28, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: ds1984 on September 28, 2018, 05:49:42 PM
Regarding the state or the recording industry theses days I wonder if Richard or Glenn are making that much money from recording sessions.

MK is by far not among the top priced artists but I bet for the usual price increase on tix.


Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 29, 2018, 07:41:05 AM
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
I saw Gilmour in Tienen Belgium on his last tour. Indeed a nice location but i do not see Knopfler do the same. Don't forget it was Gilmour's first tour in 10 year .
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 29, 2018, 07:52:29 AM
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
I saw Gilmour in Tienen Belgium on his last tour. Indeed a nice location but i do not see Knopfler do the same. Don't forget it was Gilmour's first tour in 10 year .
Was there too! Night one or two?

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Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 29, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
I saw Gilmour in Tienen Belgium on his last tour. Indeed a nice location but i do not see Knopfler do the same. Don't forget it was Gilmour's first tour in 10 year .
Was there too! Night one or two?

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Was there as well,,2nd night
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 29, 2018, 09:48:48 AM
Me to
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
I saw Gilmour in Tienen Belgium on his last tour. Indeed a nice location but i do not see Knopfler do the same. Don't forget it was Gilmour's first tour in 10 year .
Was there too! Night one or two?

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Was there as well,,2nd night
Me too. Was brilliant. Did not know you were there dutchessy

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Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 29, 2018, 01:14:28 PM
Me to
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
I saw Gilmour in Tienen Belgium on his last tour. Indeed a nice location but i do not see Knopfler do the same. Don't forget it was Gilmour's first tour in 10 year .
Was there too! Night one or two?

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Was there as well,,2nd night
Me too. Was brilliant. Did not know you were there dutchessy

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I was there the first night  :thumbsup
Do you guys think MK would be in for a tour like that?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 29, 2018, 01:39:00 PM
No. The way David Gilmour tours is very unfair as there are very few concerts which tickets sold out very fast as there are more fans that want to see him that concerts to go.

Mk way is better as he plays almost all Europe and much of the US giving lot of chances to fans.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on September 29, 2018, 02:22:27 PM
Me to
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
I saw Gilmour in Tienen Belgium on his last tour. Indeed a nice location but i do not see Knopfler do the same. Don't forget it was Gilmour's first tour in 10 year .
Was there too! Night one or two?

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Was there as well,,2nd night
Me too. Was brilliant. Did not know you were there dutchessy

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Ofcourse you knew. We had contact but you arrived late and was at the back. I stood next to Ingrid.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on September 29, 2018, 02:48:33 PM
Me to
maybe he should do a Gilmour like tour, in beautiful locations, venice, pompeii, verona etc...less concerts, but special locations that make it more interesting...?
I saw Gilmour in Tienen Belgium on his last tour. Indeed a nice location but i do not see Knopfler do the same. Don't forget it was Gilmour's first tour in 10 year .
Was there too! Night one or two?

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Was there as well,,2nd night
Me too. Was brilliant. Did not know you were there dutchessy

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Ofcourse you knew. We had contact but you arrived late and was at the back. I stood next to Ingrid.
Oh, true, getting old I guess?

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Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 29, 2018, 03:20:56 PM
I wonder how much it would take the tour to be announced... first dates for Tracker tour were announced on September 16th 2014, Privateering ones on August 27th 2012...

My bet would be around the same time the album will be out.  :think

I would've guessed just after the release too, however looking at these dates from Jbaent it appears the previous tours were announced before the album release.  I suppose they can release the dates well before tickets actually going on sale mind you.
Ticketsales will not start before albumrelease. On several websites you can ofcourse order the new album and get a code to participate in the ticketsales. These codes will be availible untill nov 16 so no tournews before that one would think....... :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 29, 2018, 03:22:26 PM
I don't mind when ticket sales starts, I mind about dates announcement.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on September 29, 2018, 07:18:24 PM
I don't mind when ticket sales starts, I mind about dates announcement.
Okay, do we know how many countries are involved with the presale? In the netherlands you can order the album at bol.com to participate in the presale for a concert in the Benelux. Not in the rest of Europe. This is kind off strange i think. So they are probably going to release the dates bit by bit......i think.. :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on September 29, 2018, 08:17:15 PM
I don't mind when ticket sales starts, I mind about dates announcement.
Okay, do we know how many countries are involved with the presale? In the netherlands you can order the album at bol.com to participate in the presale for a concert in the Benelux. Not in the rest of Europe. This is kind off strange i think. So they are probably going to release the dates bit by bit......i think.. :think

The virgin site offers presale to UK and Ireland. I imagine others shops would offer the same in other countries.

The presale codes doesn't need to wait to the release, as long as you pre-order and pay, they could send the presale code by mail so they can do it tomorrow if they want.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 01, 2018, 09:43:48 AM
Last monday I wrote a post wondering if we would see a videoclip soon and some hours later, the video was uploaded, so I-m gonna try it again  ;D

I wonder if today we will have any kind of announcement about the tour...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 01, 2018, 09:44:54 AM
Last monday I wrote a post wondering if we would see a videoclip soon and some hours later, the video was uploaded, so I-m gonna try it again  ;D

I wonder if today we will have any kind of announcement about the tour...

Based on something? Or totally wild guess?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 01, 2018, 09:54:20 AM
Last monday I wrote a post wondering if we would see a videoclip soon and some hours later, the video was uploaded, so I-m gonna try it again  ;D

I wonder if today we will have any kind of announcement about the tour...

Based on something? Or totally wild guess?
Perhaps they will announce something like the planning of a new tour is almost done and tourdates will follow. I do not expect any tourdates to be announced before the releasedate because off the presale codes that runs untill 16 nov..
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 01, 2018, 09:59:58 AM
Last monday I wrote a post wondering if we would see a videoclip soon and some hours later, the video was uploaded, so I-m gonna try it again  ;D

I wonder if today we will have any kind of announcement about the tour...

Based on something? Or totally wild guess?
Perhaps they will announce something like the planning of a new tour is almost done and tourdates will follow. I do not expect any tourdates to be announced before the releasedate because off the presale codes that runs untill 16 nov..

The presale codes can be sent by e-mail to those who pre-ordered without having to wait to the release date...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 01, 2018, 10:08:51 AM
Last monday I wrote a post wondering if we would see a videoclip soon and some hours later, the video was uploaded, so I-m gonna try it again  ;D

I wonder if today we will have any kind of announcement about the tour...

Based on something? Or totally wild guess?
Perhaps they will announce something like the planning of a new tour is almost done and tourdates will follow. I do not expect any tourdates to be announced before the releasedate because off the presale codes that runs untill 16 nov..

The presale codes can be sent by e-mail to those who pre-ordered without having to wait to the release date...
Jbaent i totaly understand your point but help me out here..... :think
The action for presalecodes runs untill nov 16. So even if i order the album at nov 15 i will get a presale code. Therefore i assume tickets will not be on sale any sooner. Afgreed? And what’s the point in releasing the dates 4/5 weeks before you can actually buy tickets   ???
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 01, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
Last monday I wrote a post wondering if we would see a videoclip soon and some hours later, the video was uploaded, so I-m gonna try it again  ;D

I wonder if today we will have any kind of announcement about the tour...

Based on something? Or totally wild guess?
Perhaps they will announce something like the planning of a new tour is almost done and tourdates will follow. I do not expect any tourdates to be announced before the releasedate because off the presale codes that runs untill 16 nov..

The presale codes can be sent by e-mail to those who pre-ordered without having to wait to the release date...
Jbaent i totaly understand your point but help me out here..... :think
The action for presalecodes runs untill nov 16. So even if i order the album at nov 15 i will get a presale code. Therefore i assume tickets will not be on sale any sooner. Afgreed? And what’s the point in releasing the dates 4/5 weeks before you can actually buy tickets   ???

tour dates are usually announced with the date that the tickets would be available in presale and/or general sale.

For example, tour dates can be announced today telling that presale will start in two weeks and general sale on three weeks.

Actually, thats the way it's done. Maybe there is no two weeks between the announcement and the presale, but I had seen it many times.

They can even announce the tour dates telling that presale and general sales date will be announces shortly. That happened already as well.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Silvertown on October 03, 2018, 08:59:49 AM
It is highly probable that MK is not touring in Finland in next tour. So based on that, I suspect quite similar tour than last time.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Pottel on October 03, 2018, 09:13:58 AM
It is highly probable that MK is not touring in Finland in next tour. So based on that, I suspect quite similar tour than last time.
Where did you get that from?

sent from my Samsung Galaxy 9+ via tapatalk

Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Silvertown on October 03, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
It is highly probable that MK is not touring in Finland in next tour. So based on that, I suspect quite similar tour than last time.
Where did you get that from?

sent from my Samsung Galaxy 9+ via tapatalk

I asked the promoter agency and they said "It seems that Mark Knopfler is not coming to Finland in his next tour"
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: quizzaciously on October 03, 2018, 09:55:01 AM
It is highly probable that MK is not touring in Finland in next tour. So based on that, I suspect quite similar tour than last time.
Where did you get that from?

sent from my Samsung Galaxy 9+ via tapatalk

I asked the promoter agency and they said "It seems that Mark Knopfler is not coming to Finland in his next tour"

So no Russia then 10000000000000000%. Not like he wanted to play there anyway, but the absence of Finland rules it out completely.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Silvertown on October 03, 2018, 09:57:06 AM
So no Russia then 10000000000000000%. Not like he wanted to play there anyway, but the absence of Finland rules it out completely.

That is true.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: crimmer on October 07, 2018, 01:55:36 AM
lets steer the topic back too next tour guys and girls ,
 mark always seems to pull it out the bag, after 2010 I was a bit down with his playing (even though did like the set list, apart from Romeo and so far away (and it wasn't that bad)
, but 2011 thought he stepped back up at the gigs I saw ,
 and 2013 thought he was solid throughout the tour and played smoothly  ,
 2015 thought he did ok but usa section he played better the the Europe section
, but wasn't as smooth playing as were used too,(but age guys) ,but still was a good standard especially on Sultans at Boston and Austin good examples of that,
and 2016 he surprised us all in with playtime deluxe,

so moaners out there don't discourage just yet , new tour may be his last , I think of Clapton who I follow a little bit, 2013 playing I got abit disappointed with but 2015 thought he was back too it ,
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: skydiver on October 12, 2018, 10:47:47 AM
Have ticket sales for an MK European Spring/Summer Tour ever started later in recent years than this time?
Looks like MK's RAH residency could be between May 30th and June 5th 2019.
Hopefully we hear something soon.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 12, 2018, 11:34:48 AM
Have ticket sales for an MK European Spring/Summer Tour ever started later in recent years than this time?
Looks like MK's RAH residency could be between May 30th and June 5th 2019.
Hopefully we hear something soon.

If there is any residency. Last tour he played just two dates. In may 19 there are many free spots of three consecutive dates
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 14, 2018, 12:18:43 AM
Last monday I wrote a post wondering if we would see a videoclip soon and some hours later, the video was uploaded, so I-m gonna try it again  ;D

I wonder if today we will have any kind of announcement about the tour...

Based on something? Or totally wild guess?
Perhaps they will announce something like the planning of a new tour is almost done and tourdates will follow. I do not expect any tourdates to be announced before the releasedate because off the presale codes that runs untill 16 nov..

The presale codes can be sent by e-mail to those who pre-ordered without having to wait to the release date...
Jbaent i totaly understand your point but help me out here..... :think
The action for presalecodes runs untill nov 16. So even if i order the album at nov 15 i will get a presale code. Therefore i assume tickets will not be on sale any sooner. Afgreed? And what’s the point in releasing the dates 4/5 weeks before you can actually buy tickets   ???

tour dates are usually announced with the date that the tickets would be available in presale and/or general sale.

For example, tour dates can be announced today telling that presale will start in two weeks and general sale on three weeks.

Actually, thats the way it's done. Maybe there is no two weeks between the announcement and the presale, but I had seen it many times.

They can even announce the tour dates telling that presale and general sales date will be announces shortly. That happened already as well.
From bol.com:
You will not get a presale code if you cancel or send the album retour after release..
So tickets on sale after the releasedate and i hope for dates announcement somewhere in the first week of november...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 14, 2018, 09:38:34 PM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Kris-b on October 14, 2018, 09:56:46 PM
Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 14, 2018, 09:58:59 PM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Exactly!
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 14, 2018, 09:59:13 PM
Where did you hear that?
A fellow Dutch fan
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 14, 2018, 09:59:56 PM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Exactly!
You heard it too? ;)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 14, 2018, 10:14:34 PM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Exactly!
You heard it too? ;)

Yes. Correct dates. Let's see if they announce all dates or batches of dates...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on October 14, 2018, 10:28:52 PM
22nd-29th.  A week to plan my UK tour then... :think  Check bank balance first.   :smack
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: binone on October 14, 2018, 10:37:39 PM
BUT, not all the dates that day. They are doing the same again, some of them will be announced later on.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 15, 2018, 12:09:56 AM
BUT, not all the dates that day. They are doing the same again, some of them will be announced later on.

 :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
Probably first the O2 and 8 weeks later the RAH.............
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 15, 2018, 12:14:00 AM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Strange because pre sale codes are availible untill nov 16.... at least in the Benelux....How about codes in other countries?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2018, 07:42:35 AM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Strange because pre sale codes are availible untill nov 16.... at least in the Benelux....How about codes in other countries?

As far as I heard, there are only codes for the UK and Benelux.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 15, 2018, 10:37:48 AM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Strange because pre sale codes are availible untill nov 16.... at least in the Benelux....How about codes in other countries?

As far as I heard, there are only codes for the UK and Benelux.

If the rumor is true could this mean ticketsales will start later in the UK and Benelux.  :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 15, 2018, 10:40:33 AM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Strange because pre sale codes are availible untill nov 16.... at least in the Benelux....How about codes in other countries?

As far as I heard, there are only codes for the UK and Benelux.

If the rumor is true could this mean ticketsales will start later in the UK and Benelux.  :think

Or they will send the codes by e-mail before.

I won't worry too much as MK.com said they will handle presales as usual, but if I was any of you, I would mail virgin and bol and ask them about the precodes, as you had heard that presales will start late october.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: skydiver on October 15, 2018, 11:16:01 AM
I believe that presale code customers as well as other marketing partners have a different reserved contingent of tickets, so it doesn't matter if mk.com presales start at other times than other presales, because they don't fight over exactly the same seats.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 15, 2018, 11:19:03 AM
I believe that presale code customers as well as other marketing partners have a different reserved contigent of tickets, so it doesn't matter if mk.com presales start at at different times than other presales, because they don't fight over exactly the same seats.
Lets hope mk.com offers the best seats...
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: El Macho on October 15, 2018, 11:49:25 AM
To get access to the presales on mk.com, we must buy the album at mk.com ?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on October 15, 2018, 11:51:55 AM
To get access to the presales on mk.com, we must buy the album at mk.com ?

No, you just need to register as a member.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: jbaent on October 16, 2018, 09:51:54 AM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale

Please note that this is how is scheduled theorically...

I mean, that it might be changed as far as some dates that might be announced are not 100% closed and that might delay the dates announcement.

Tour dates are scheduled to be announced later this month as stated before, and I truly hope it happens this way, but it might be delayed until early November.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 16, 2018, 09:27:07 PM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale
Want to share how you get the info  ;D ???
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 16, 2018, 09:32:03 PM
Just heard some rumor:

22 okt tour announcement
29 okt start pre sale
Want to share how you get the info  ;D ???
Mark Knopfler Nederland facebook group :)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 16, 2018, 10:31:47 PM
Someone has a insideman at ticketmaster  :)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: border_reiver on October 19, 2018, 06:38:12 PM
UK dates are out. And a hint about the rest of the tour but no other dates.

@MK News

 The ‘Down The Road Wherever’ tour commences in Barcelona in April and will continue all over Europe finishing in Verona in July before heading to the US through August and September.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: border_reiver on October 19, 2018, 06:40:06 PM
The UK/Ireland dates are –
MAY 2019

18        LEEDS                       First Direct Arena
19        NEWCASTLE            Metro Radio Arena
24        DUBLIN                     3 Arena
26        GLASGOW                SSE Hydro
28        LONDON                   O2 Arena
29        MANCHESTER         Arena
30        BIRMINGHAM          Genting Arena
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: border_reiver on October 19, 2018, 06:41:22 PM
Roughly 3 months across Europe. Isn't that pretty long?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 19, 2018, 06:49:13 PM
Good news that the UK dates are out  ;D and once again it will be waiting for the RAH dates  :disbelief
To bad they will roll out like the last tours so the schedule will be complete in 6 weeks.
Strange time also to release dates, on a friday evening......
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 19, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
Barcelona it is then  ;D
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 19, 2018, 06:55:48 PM
Roughly 3 months across Europe. Isn't that pretty long?

Not if they have enough breaks between dates......
Perhaps now that dates roll out it is best to start a new thread or do we keep it with this one  :think
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: border_reiver on October 19, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
Maybe a better named topic would work?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: border_reiver on October 19, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
Good news that the UK dates are out  ;D and once again it will be waiting for the RAH dates  :disbelief
To bad they will roll out like the last tours so the schedule will be complete in 6 weeks.
Strange time also to release dates, on a friday evening......

The marketing folks will never cease to amaze.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: goon525 on October 19, 2018, 07:02:51 PM
Nothing south of Birmingham apart from one O2 date? No Brighton or Bournemouth?
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: cannibals on October 19, 2018, 07:03:21 PM
Also got word from bol.com after sending them an e-mail. Presale code will be send this monday with further information so dates for the Benelux next week.... :thumbsup
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Vesper on October 19, 2018, 07:05:52 PM
Also got word from bol.com after sending them an e-mail. Presale code will be send this monday with further information so dates for the Benelux next week.... :thumbsup

Good to know, they didn't respond to me.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on October 19, 2018, 07:09:55 PM
Good news for me - The First Direct Arena, Leeds!     :clap   Perhaps I will see you there jbaent!   :)
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: dmg on October 19, 2018, 07:19:52 PM
Good news for me - The First Direct Arena, Leeds!     :clap   Perhaps I will see you there jbaent!   :)

I might go to Leeds.  Fancy something a bit different this time. 

The O2 is a shocker of a decision.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: superval99 on October 19, 2018, 07:29:50 PM
Good news for me - The First Direct Arena, Leeds!     :clap   Perhaps I will see you there jbaent!   :)

I might go to Leeds.  Fancy something a bit different this time. 

The O2 is a shocker of a decision.

It would be great to see you there too, dmg!    :)     We won't be going to the O2 either, most probably Leeds, Manchester and, possibly, the RAH if the dates are OK to fit in with holidays.
Title: Re: the new tour
Post by: Dutchessy on October 19, 2018, 08:10:44 PM
New sticky topic:

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6381.0