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Title: (01) Trapper Man
Post by: shangri la 1 on September 22, 2018, 04:02:46 AM
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Trapper Man  Mark Knopfler (6:00)
Ian Thomas, Drums
Beverley Skeete, Background Vocalist
Nigel Hitchcock, Tenor Saxophone
Glenn Worf, Bass Guitar
Mark Knopfler, Guitar, Vocals
Jim Cox, Piano
Katie Kissoon, Background Vocalist
Tom Walsh, Trumpet
Trevor Mires, Trombone
Danny Cummings, Percussion
Guy Fletcher, Synthesizer


LYRICS

The trapper man’s in from the hinterlands
Filth and grease on his clothes and hands
From the outermost, the farthermost
Comes riding in to the trading post
Got a pack horse loaded up with hides
Steps in to see the man inside
‘I got furs, skins, a little meat too
Here, I got a good piece just for you’
Mmm Yeah


‘You take this home to give the wife’
The trapper draws his skinning knife
Now the fat man’s desk is a butcher’s block
The trapper cuts the meat and talks
‘You’re gonna lose your shirt on a nowhere man
Lose your shirt in nowhere land
Back out there is my country
And you best let this trapper be the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man

If you don’t want to be where lightning strikes
Better let me work the way I like
You don’t want to know how I fill my sacks
You go out there you don’t come back
You got nature red in tooth and claw
And you ain’t got no rule of law
And if you don’t know nature’s way
All that’s gonna stop you being the prey is the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man

You wanna wear them gems and rings
You wanna show off them shiny things
Shake your money maker, bro
Where the movers and the shakers go
You wanna go do what you do
Let the gold and silver come to you
So leave the dirty work to me
So you best let this trapper be the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man

When he’s done his thing and gone his way
The fat men light cigars and say
“Holy smokes did you see that?
We all made money on the trapper cat”
Sit back in their big ass chairs
Say, “Boys, that is the man right there”
I’m the lifeline for your big soft ass
It’s the trapper puts it in first class, the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man

© © 2018 Will D. Side Limited
℗ 2018 Will D. Side Limited


CHORDS: Trapper Man - by quizzaciously
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/trapper_man_chords_2515683
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Post by: koobaa on October 04, 2018, 09:32:12 PM
Love these lyrics. This story could have easily happened in my neck of the woods. Actually, it's still happening. Can't wait to listen to this one!
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Post by: Love Expresso on October 04, 2018, 09:36:06 PM
Could you explain  a little more? What's it about?

LE
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Post by: koobaa on October 04, 2018, 10:07:28 PM
Literally taken, it could be about the pioneer times in North America when trapping and fur trade was the main industry during the early exploration of the northern frontier. Trappers would be out in the wilderness (hinterlands) for several months and would only come back to civilization to sell their pelts at trading posts which were usually established in remote areas. Being a trapper required a stamina and huge experience in living out on the land. An inexperienced person would perish within days exposed to elements and the wildlife. You had to be tough, or you needed a trapper man to survive. Trapping is still a way of life in northern Canada where I live. Fur industry is still very much alive and it is a legitimate industry supported by the local government. There are still many trappers out there in small, mostly aboriginal communities across the North, and the wilderness is as unforgiving as it was 200 years ago.
Hudson Bay Company was one of such early outfits that rose into power mostly thanks to trapping and fur industry. There were many people that became rich and "fat" thanks to these guys out there on the land, the trappers. As usual with MK, the double meaning of the song could be how some manage to raise to power and take advantage of the folks that work hard with their bare hands, a lower working class so to speak. The two last verses are the best indication of that. "I’m the lifeline for your big soft ass. It’s the trapper puts it in first class"
However, as the lyrics say, trappers need to sell their goods too to survive. So "I need you but you need me ". Also, trappers love what they do, they wouldn't like to do anything else, so "you better let this trapper be a trapper".

Anyway, just my first thoughts. I can relate to this story seeing it happen every day. We haven't changed since ancient times.
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Post by: Robson on October 04, 2018, 10:19:20 PM
Literally taken, it could be about the pioneer times in North America when trapping and fur trade was the main industry during the early exploration of the northern frontier. Trappers would be out in the wilderness (hinterlands) for several months and would only come back to civilization to sell their pelts at trading posts which were usually established in remote areas. Being a trapper required a stamina and huge experience in living out on the land. An inexperienced person would perish within days exposed to elements and the wildlife. You had to be tough, or you needed a trapper man to survive. Trapping is still a way of life in northern Canada where I live. Fur industry is still very much alive and it is a legitimate industry supported by the local government. There are still many trappers out there in small, mostly aboriginal communities across the North, and the wilderness is as unforgiving as it was 200 years ago.
Hudson Bay Company was one of such early outfits that rose into power mostly thanks to trapping and fur industry. There were many people that became rich and "fat" thanks to these guys out there on the land, the trappers. As usual with MK, the double meaning of the song could be how some manage to raise to power and take advantage of the folks that work hard with their bare hands, a lower working class so to speak. The two last verses are the best indication of that. "I’m the lifeline for your big soft ass. It’s the trapper puts it in first class"
However, as the lyrics say, trappers need to sell their goods too to survive. So "I need you but you need me ". Also, trappers love what they do, they wouldn't like to do anything else, so "you better let this trapper be a trapper".

Anyway, just my first thoughts. I can relate to this story seeing it happen every day. We haven't changed since ancient times.

koobaa  :thumbsup
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Post by: Love Expresso on October 04, 2018, 10:19:35 PM
And suddenly ...

WOW!

This is so helpful! Thank you so much for this detailed answer! Very appreciated!  :wave

LE
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Post by: JF on October 04, 2018, 11:01:49 PM
female background vocals on this song sounds very much like on Clapton's forever man.
at least it made me think to these vocals

and the rhythm/tempo is a little bit like on the metroland song.
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Post by: jbaent on November 09, 2018, 05:30:20 PM
You can listen trapper man here:

https://detourradio.com/playlists-concert-calendar-news/

More or less at one hour after a piece of folk music.

Quite nice
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Post by: Kris-b on November 09, 2018, 05:44:53 PM
Wow, this is really nice! I like it!

Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: jbaent on November 09, 2018, 05:47:57 PM
If someone can capture it and send it by private... I'm just about to catch a plane for a travel!
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Post by: vr46mk on November 09, 2018, 05:51:18 PM
Love this one!  :D

I can record.
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 09, 2018, 06:01:19 PM
Nah... The first track leak isn't interesting. It's the grand opening, makes no sense to hear it alone.
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Post by: wespresso on November 09, 2018, 06:03:21 PM
You can listen trapper man here:

https://detourradio.com/playlists-concert-calendar-news/

More or less at one hour after a piece of folk music.

Quite nice
Wow, did not expect this, thanks for sharing. It sounds really good!
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Post by: holaknopfler on November 09, 2018, 06:07:12 PM
F*cking brilliant, for me the best one until now
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Post by: straitsway75 on November 09, 2018, 06:09:03 PM
 :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
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Post by: straitsway75 on November 09, 2018, 06:10:31 PM
yessssss this one is for me :thumbsup
thank you Mark :thumbsup
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Post by: straitsway75 on November 09, 2018, 06:12:57 PM
hey guys, someone know how take the song from there? :hmm
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Post by: dmg on November 09, 2018, 06:18:44 PM
After one listen I must say that I love this.  Great energetic vocal that lifts the song (that's been lacking in recent times) and that guitar line is brill.  :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Post by: dmg on November 09, 2018, 06:21:51 PM
hey guys, someone know how take the song from there? :hmm

If you have Mac then Quicktime player can record from the sound card if you download Soundflower.
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Post by: Dutchessy on November 09, 2018, 06:22:33 PM
LOVE IT!!! :D
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Post by: skydiver on November 09, 2018, 06:22:45 PM
bloody fantastic!
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 09, 2018, 06:35:33 PM
Totally great. Loved it. Intro indeed TR sound alike.
Otherwise JF and Rail King totally failed to describe this gem. Totally phantastic Dire Straitish, fresh, enercetic. HIS voice gives me shivers all over.
Would have loved to hear this properly on the Radio without any knowing ... legendary MK remembrance moment forever.
Perfect Live Opener. Lovely break.
Oh yes, fucking nice guitar.. nice guitar.
Comparable from the impact with This Is Us.
Very nice piano on it.

If someone captures it as mp3 please pm to me!

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 06:36:37 PM
YES! Finally a KILLER song!

Very live-worthy!

F***ing top class!
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 09, 2018, 06:39:06 PM
Love the piano and the acoustics on it. Oh yes the Bee organ is there again and some guy gimmicks but it cannot disturb.

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 06:40:31 PM
h t t p s : / / computerengineeringgroup.com/audio/Detour2018-11-04.mp3
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Post by: binone on November 09, 2018, 06:45:24 PM
From 1:00:15
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 06:47:06 PM
Killer Bosnian tune in front of it too!  ;D
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Post by: superval99 on November 09, 2018, 06:51:43 PM
Great!   I really like this one and it's already stuck in my head after one listen!    :)    The riff running through sounds a wee bit Scottish.   :think     I remember now, it's reminiscent of a tune the folkies play on Transatlantic Sessions.   :)
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Post by: vr46mk on November 09, 2018, 06:54:07 PM
I can record a mp3 if someone wants it, send a PM.

Am I the only one who already now feel this album is far better than Tracker?

I want the tour now!
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Post by: dmg on November 09, 2018, 06:58:55 PM
I have it lossless if anyone wants.  PM me.
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 07:01:57 PM
Lyrics correction


Let the gold and silver come to you
I need you but you need me
So
you best let this trapper be the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man

sounds more like...

Let the gold and silver come to you
So leave the dirty work to me
Yeah you best let this trapper be the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man
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Post by: Dutchessy on November 09, 2018, 07:04:44 PM
I also can some request, have it converted to mp3.
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Post by: koobaa on November 09, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
Great tune, great lyrics. Yes sir!
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Post by: JF on November 09, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
Totally great. Loved it. Intro indeed TR sound alike.
Otherwise JF and Rail King totally failed to describe this gem. Totally phantastic Dire Straitish, fresh, enercetic. HIS voice gives me shivers all over.
Would have loved to hear this properly on the Radio without any knowing ... legendary MK remembrance moment forever.
Perfect Live Opener. Lovely break.
Oh yes, fucking nice guitar.. nice guitar.
Comparable from the impact with This Is Us.
Very nice piano on it.

If someone captures it as mp3 please pm to me!

LE

I did say I loved it !  ;D ;)

difficult for me to describe music in words with my poor english, but it is in my to 3 songs of the album, and a very very good opener
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 07:12:21 PM
Ssshh.... Don't agree on that this is a good opener. Remember last time? Everyone wanted Laughs and we got Broken Bones!
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 07:16:48 PM
I'd describe it as a merry Hillfarmer's Blues in a major key.

It's got the same kind picking lick throughout the song.
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Post by: holaknopfler on November 09, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
Ssshh.... Don't agree on that this is a good opener. Remember last time? Everyone wanted Laughs and we got Broken Bones!

Please let us have Miss You Blues as opener maybe we get this one then!!
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Post by: Banjo99uk on November 09, 2018, 08:18:23 PM
Oh wow, what a great song. I’ve loved them all so far but this one is fantastic. These three songs alone have been worth the wait. He’s really turned his back on his age in a very dignified way with these songs. Unlike McCartney who’s currently singing about wanting to f*** you.
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Post by: Banjo99uk on November 09, 2018, 08:20:26 PM
I know little about Springsteen but it’s reminiscent of his sound that I got from my first listen.
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 08:31:01 PM
I know little about Springsteen but it’s reminiscent of his sound that I got from my first listen.

It's MK trademarked but I hear americana all over it.

Apart from Springsteen also a lot of John Hiatt.
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Post by: Dutchessy on November 09, 2018, 08:34:41 PM
I don't hear any sax, trumpet and trombone on this track. The track must be 6.00 long, it is 5.30 now. Maybe some small part missing?
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Post by: dmg on November 09, 2018, 08:53:04 PM
I don't hear any sax, trumpet and trombone on this track. The track must be 6.00 long, it is 5.30 now. Maybe some small part missing?

Room for some good soloing at the end of this.  Potentially a great live song...
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 09, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Great song except for this typical Guy's continental organ or whatever it is. To be honest, I hate the sound of it, Guy plays it exactly like that in so many songs that it's literally painful to hear. Holy smokes, Guy, can you be a little bit more modest with your presence? Don't steal the song from Mark! Because of this dreadful organ alone I have mixed feelings about this song.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 09, 2018, 09:04:06 PM
I know what you mean and I knew this would cause controversy.

LE
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 09, 2018, 09:11:24 PM
I know what you mean and I knew this would cause controversy.

LE

And I know that the song would be a million times better without this squeaky disturbing organ. You literally can take it out and nothing will change, will only get better. I know you can't undo it, but it only makes it worse, like watching a friend fighting and not being able to help.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 09, 2018, 09:13:21 PM
Yes but try to live with it. It's not worth spoiling the fun.

LE
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Post by: GIUMK on November 09, 2018, 09:13:37 PM
Hi guys! Can I have a PM of this song? Thank you.
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Post by: JF on November 09, 2018, 09:15:39 PM

It's MK trademarked but I hear americana all over it.


ah finally ! it's the first word I thought about when hearing this song for the first time
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 09:18:43 PM

It's MK trademarked but I hear americana all over it.


ah finally ! it's the first word I thought about when hearing this song for the first time

Yes, I thought you were right on the money there.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 09, 2018, 09:19:47 PM
Totally great. Loved it. Intro indeed TR sound alike.
Otherwise JF and Rail King totally failed to describe this gem. Totally phantastic Dire Straitish, fresh, enercetic. HIS voice gives me shivers all over.
Would have loved to hear this properly on the Radio without any knowing ... legendary MK remembrance moment forever.
Perfect Live Opener. Lovely break.
Oh yes, fucking nice guitar.. nice guitar.
Comparable from the impact with This Is Us.
Very nice piano on it.

If someone captures it as mp3 please pm to me!

LE

I did say I loved it !  ;D ;)

difficult for me to describe music in words with my poor english, but it is in my to 3 songs of the album, and a very very good opener

Oh please, I am just joking and can't say thank you enough for the effort you did over the weeks for us. It's just that I am overwhelmed pretty much by this song and you sounded pretty cool about it. Same as Rail King. But that's the fun with different point of views. You and quizzaciously, for example I would call "Chord Men", you listen to music in a total different manner than I do. I know absolutely nothing about chords.

LE
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 09, 2018, 09:21:33 PM
Yes but try to live with it. It's not worth spoiling the fun.

LE

Will wait for the live version of this song and hopefully mister Fletcher would be kind enough to switch off his organ for once. You can't believe how much I'm disappointed with this arrangement. The song is so great and here goes this pack of continental mosquitoes to have an intercourse with your ears. I won't write about this anymore, but I just had to say it.
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Post by: JF on November 09, 2018, 09:23:28 PM
nothing wrong LE  :)

I love this song too, and I said it could have been a good single imho

I like very much how the album starts : this song, then BOTDF, then nobody child,etc....

I say it again : a very very good album imho, and judging by commments, I bet many people will love it
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 09, 2018, 09:25:28 PM
Well tonight really makes me looking forward to it again. Some doubts were coming up last couple of days.

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
Yes but try to live with it. It's not worth spoiling the fun.

LE

Will wait for the live version of this song and hopefully mister Fletcher would be kind enough to switch off his organ for once. You can't believe how much I'm disappointed with this arrangement. The song is so great and here goes this pack of continental mosquitoes to have an intercourse with your ears. I won't write about this anymore, but I just had to say it.

A proper Hammond with the Leslie should've done a better job yes.
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 09, 2018, 09:32:10 PM
Yes but try to live with it. It's not worth spoiling the fun.

LE

Will wait for the live version of this song and hopefully mister Fletcher would be kind enough to switch off his organ for once. You can't believe how much I'm disappointed with this arrangement. The song is so great and here goes this pack of continental mosquitoes to have an intercourse with your ears. I won't write about this anymore, but I just had to say it.

A proper Hammond with the Leslie should've done a better job yes.

Why two random guys from Russia and Sweden understand that and veteran musicians with their own studio and 50+ years of playing don't?
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Post by: border_reiver on November 09, 2018, 09:36:57 PM
Yes but try to live with it. It's not worth spoiling the fun.

LE

Will wait for the live version of this song and hopefully mister Fletcher would be kind enough to switch off his organ for once. You can't believe how much I'm disappointed with this arrangement. The song is so great and here goes this pack of continental mosquitoes to have an intercourse with your ears. I won't write about this anymore, but I just had to say it.

A proper Hammond with the Leslie should've done a better job yes.

Why two random guys from Russia and Sweden understand that and veteran musicians with their own studio and 50+ years of playing don't?

Maybe Guy saw his opportunity with British Grove to get all the brutal hi-class synth and tech stuff for free to use and live out his fetishes.  ;D

Nah, I have no good answer really. :)
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 09, 2018, 09:38:06 PM
Yes but try to live with it. It's not worth spoiling the fun.

LE

Will wait for the live version of this song and hopefully mister Fletcher would be kind enough to switch off his organ for once. You can't believe how much I'm disappointed with this arrangement. The song is so great and here goes this pack of continental mosquitoes to have an intercourse with your ears. I won't write about this anymore, but I just had to say it.

It was on Who's Your Baby Now the first time, it was on Punish The Monkey and on We Can Get Wild and culminated on Beryl and I know exactly what you mean. I hated it every single time and wondered what it was good for.. seems Guy is really trying to put a trade mark on it.

LE 
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Post by: GIUMK on November 09, 2018, 09:54:10 PM
Thanks dmg for the PM.
Well, what about ... It's really a Mark of the past! It's really very good song, great opener! Also very catchy, from these first three songs I think it will be a very electric album. ;)
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Post by: mschaap on November 09, 2018, 10:07:41 PM
Very catchy song, energetic and nicely sung by Mark. However, don’t quite like the 80s sound of the drums + backing vocals and have never liked the Farfisa sound by Guy.
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Post by: rosco on November 09, 2018, 10:37:23 PM
Really good song. Best so far from the 3. Would have made a better single- more radio friendly.

If it's possible, can anyone send me an mp3. I would very much appreciate it.
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Post by: dmg on November 09, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
Interestingly this song is 6:00 long on iTunes and this version only 5:26 without any fadeout.  Must be a radio edit or an error in iTunes.  Hopefully the former!
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Post by: mschaap on November 09, 2018, 10:45:57 PM
My guess would be a longer intro before the drums kick in.
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Post by: dmg on November 09, 2018, 10:47:52 PM
My guess would be a longer intro before the drums kick in.

 :thumbsup
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Post by: kaleo74 on November 09, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
This song could have been written by David, sounds like a Bob Dylan song.
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Post by: hillbilly on November 09, 2018, 11:47:10 PM
Can anyone send me MP3 on pm?
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Post by: JF on November 09, 2018, 11:57:40 PM
My guess would be a longer intro before the drums kick in.

 :thumbsup

I havent listened to the file you're talking about

my file is 6:01 long
the drum kicks in at 00:29 and stopes at 5:36, while the sound continues like in the intro, but fades out
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Post by: hunter on November 10, 2018, 12:27:41 AM
This song too is really nice. Lots of positive energy. One thing that irritates me is the organ sound - I believe Guy used it on Beryl too.
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Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on November 10, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
Awesome song, I think this album is gonna be one of my favourites, feels like a new era in the wonderful world of MK!
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Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on November 10, 2018, 01:43:14 AM
Yes but try to live with it. It's not worth spoiling the fun.

LE

Will wait for the live version of this song and hopefully mister Fletcher would be kind enough to switch off his organ for once. You can't believe how much I'm disappointed with this arrangement. The song is so great and here goes this pack of continental mosquitoes to have an intercourse with your ears. I won't write about this anymore, but I just had to say it.

A proper Hammond with the Leslie should've done a better job yes.

Why two random guys from Russia and Sweden understand that and veteran musicians with their own studio and 50+ years of playing don't?
You’ve made your point, you hate the organ, we get it. Making music, being creative and producing stuff is a magical process, saying that these guys don’t ‘understand’ your organ point of view is nonsense, besides that they really don’t care what you think and they shouldn’t. BIA has a lot of aweful sounds yet it sold quite well. They liked it, they thought it was right ao they kept the organ in the mix. MK has lots of songs with proper Hammond parts, listen to those if you don’t like this one.
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 10, 2018, 01:53:51 AM
You’ve made your point, you hate the organ, we get it. Making music, being creative and producing stuff is a magical process, saying that these guys don’t ‘understand’ your organ point of view is nonsense, besides that they really don’t care what you think and they shouldn’t. BIA has a lot of aweful sounds yet it sold quite well. They liked it, they thought it was right ao they kept the organ in the mix. MK has lots of songs with proper Hammond parts, listen to those if you don’t like this one.

Slow down, TheTimeWasWrong, I get your point, too. I hate when people tell me that Mark don't care about something, as if I don't know.

I rarely rely (that's a cool phrase, isn't it?) on subjective viewpoint, I keep things objective. Organ part is objectively annoying.

Brothers In Arms uses the actual technology of the 80s and is now considered old school. It doesn't mean that it's awful.
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 10, 2018, 02:01:58 AM
I asked about 10 people what they think about the organ part in this song and every. single. one of them agreed that it's annoying.
I know I'm annoying, too, so let's just continue discussing the song. And nobody in their right mind can call it not annoying anyway.
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Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on November 10, 2018, 08:06:12 AM
Listened to it again this morning, stunning song! So excited for the rest of the album!
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Post by: hunter on November 10, 2018, 08:15:38 AM
@quizzaciously - Hey, man. You started your own thread to display your hatred for the new songs. I respect your opinion, but do you have to repeat yourself in every single thread? You sound like a victim, like someone who's suffered great injustice. It's an album, man.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 10, 2018, 09:25:51 AM
Listened to it again this morning, stunning song! So excited for the rest of the album!

 :clap :thumbsup
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 10, 2018, 09:27:02 AM
@quizzaciously - Hey, man. You started your own thread to display your hatred for the new songs. I respect your opinion, but do you have to repeat yourself in every single thread? You sound like a victim, like someone who's suffered great injustice. It's an album, man.

Totally agree, now let's move on more positively :clap -
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Post by: MK-47 on November 10, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
This song too is really nice. Lots of positive energy. One thing that irritates me is the organ sound - I believe Guy used it on Beryl too.

Exactly! The song is very good, but those organs... very irritating.
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Post by: vr46mk on November 10, 2018, 10:09:45 AM
So, to summarize... It sounds like all those radio streams we have found the songs on are all American?

Probably they play these songs there before release to tempt people to buy / pre-order the album. If you pre order tickets in the US you get a copy of the album, so maybe this is another step to try to reach out to all possible customers like with the ticket pre-sale offer... guess the market is tougher over there to sell Knopfler's things? On the other hand several shows fully booked already...
 
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Post by: Nick14 on November 10, 2018, 10:52:40 AM
Where are folks getting the songs?! Any PMs much appreciated!
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Post by: Jasper90 on November 10, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
I have to say, this was a suprise. But I love it!  ;D Nice guitar stuff again, really nice, and catchy! :clap
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Post by: vr46mk on November 10, 2018, 02:02:06 PM
In case you dont have the full version send PM.

My is 05:56 but maybe it's sent out already...
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Post by: Dutchessy on November 10, 2018, 03:15:43 PM
Intro is a la Telegraph Road  :)
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Post by: Eddie Fox on November 10, 2018, 03:57:40 PM
I sense Tom Petty's influences in this one. It might become my second favorite MK album right behind STP.
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Post by: hunter on November 10, 2018, 05:03:27 PM
I sense Tom Petty's influences in this one. It might become my second favorite MK album right behind STP.

I think this one may become my favorite, because this album represents a totally new approach, not just variations on the same theme. Of the eight songs, not everything is top-shelf material, but I like and enjoy everything. Really, everthing. Excited to hear the remaning five from the regular disc.
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Post by: hunter on November 10, 2018, 05:16:45 PM
This song has this "stadium anthem" feel to it. Could be Springsteen song. Love it.
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Post by: Eddie Fox on November 10, 2018, 05:34:11 PM
This song has this "stadium anthem" feel to it. Could be Springsteen song. Love it.

Petty, Springsteen, Dylan... it’s a hell of a song!
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Post by: kaleo74 on November 10, 2018, 05:39:59 PM
This song has this "stadium anthem" feel to it. Could be Springsteen song. Love it.

Petty, Springsteen, Dylan... it’s a hell of a song!

I thought about Dylan too, also some Tom Petty flavors
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Post by: K-alberto on November 10, 2018, 07:12:37 PM
This song has this "stadium anthem" feel to it. Could be Springsteen song. Love it.

Petty, Springsteen, Dylan... it’s a hell of a song!

Yes! Hell of a song, you're right!!
I'm getting increasingly surprised by this new album, the quality of the songs, the dynamics, the arrangements and... The good mood that you can feel throughout!
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Post by: JF on November 10, 2018, 08:36:57 PM
I sense Tom Petty's influences in this one. It might become my second favorite MK album right behind STP.

I told you  ;)
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Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on November 10, 2018, 09:24:18 PM
Sit back in their big ass chairs
Say, “Boys, that is the man right there”
I’m the lifeline for your big soft ass
It’s the trapper puts it in first class

Classic MK, love the way he sings it.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 10, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
On "You neee-heeed the Trapper Man" he sounds like Gerry Rafferty ..

LE
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Post by: Mossguitar on November 11, 2018, 01:00:45 AM
Good song! Intro/theme is a copy of I’m The Fool and Brilliant Disguise, and the sound is Springsteen and a bit Petty. Nice organ, guitar and vocal. Like it!
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Post by: H97 on November 11, 2018, 05:47:39 PM
Really great song in my opinion. Classic MK guitar sound, the slightly melancholic vocal lines give me remind of Metroland, and it overall reminds me of the feeling What It Is, Darling Pretty and alike gave me the first time I heard them. Had never expected MK to make another song like this and for me up there as one of the best openers in years. Absolutely don't mind the organ at all too. Instant classic imo, and hope to hear it live.
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Post by: JF on November 11, 2018, 09:22:07 PM
Really great song in my opinion. Classic MK guitar sound, the slightly melancholic vocal lines give me remind of Metroland, and it overall reminds me of the feeling What It Is, Darling Pretty and alike gave me the first time I heard them. Had never expected MK to make another song like this and for me up there as one of the best openers in years. Absolutely don't mind the organ at all too. Instant classic imo, and hope to hear it live.

+ 1000  :thumbsup
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Post by: Maxx on November 12, 2018, 09:50:46 AM
The best opener since Why Aye Man in my opinion.

The break sounds very Disney to me. I like it!  ;D
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Post by: jbaent on November 12, 2018, 11:25:19 AM
It is supposed that there are trombone, trumpet and sax in this song, but I can't heard them further that a very short blow at the end of the song...
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Post by: Stiglar on November 16, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
Killer tune! My favourite I think from the album!
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Post by: Nick14 on November 16, 2018, 12:41:17 PM
Interesting to hear Mark say he wrote it about the music business.
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Post by: dustyvalentino on November 17, 2018, 02:04:30 PM
Love the song but anybody else think it's a bit close to Jokerman by Dylan?
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Post by: Robson on November 17, 2018, 04:03:14 PM
Number one
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Post by: Dutchessy on November 17, 2018, 05:58:28 PM
Love the song but anybody else think it's a bit close to Jokerman by Dylan?

Its both about a 'man', and thats it :lol
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Post by: border_reiver on November 17, 2018, 06:34:06 PM
Number one

Is every song number one for you Robson?  ;D
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Post by: Robson on November 17, 2018, 06:39:47 PM
Number one

Is every song number one for you Robson?  ;D

Almost all.
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Post by: dustyvalentino on November 17, 2018, 06:45:30 PM
Love the song but anybody else think it's a bit close to Jokerman by Dylan?

Its both about a 'man', and thats it
The melody and delivery sounds the same to me, but maybe just me. :)
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Post by: Nick14 on November 17, 2018, 08:53:08 PM
In the delivery of the chorus lines I can see a little similarity with Jokerman actually.
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Post by: jbaent on November 18, 2018, 10:42:15 AM
Mk says in the promo video uploaded in his Facebook that trapper man is about people in the music business, the managers, agents, promoters...
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Post by: Silvertown on November 18, 2018, 10:47:38 AM
What a great song! Happy to listen this again and again.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 18, 2018, 10:48:30 AM
That was pretty clear to me from first reading the lyrics. He comes up with his Art and when it's ready he gives it to "them" to make more money with it.
Seeing himself as a Trapper Man, hunting for songs maybe  ;D, gives me a slightly strange feeling about how much as a loner MK sees himself... I get more and more the opinion that everyone out there, business, other musicians, fans, world, seems bad and he only feels safe when behind the walls of his fortress British Grove with Sir Guy on his side..

LE
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Post by: Robson on November 18, 2018, 03:46:26 PM
Mark Knopfler - Trapper Man. I like it:)
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Post by: allen on November 18, 2018, 03:53:19 PM
Mark Knopfler - Trapper Man. I like it:)

Simple and brief!  Please make this song as the opening song for the concerts.
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Post by: Wimbleman on November 19, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
Has anyone else noticed there is a different lyric to 'Trapper Man' on the official MK website?

The actual lyric is:

"Let the gold and silver come to you
So leave the dirty work to me"

However, the lyric printed on the official MK website is:

"Let the gold and silver come to you
I need you but you need me"




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Post by: dustyvalentino on November 19, 2018, 02:14:09 PM
Melody on the verse is the same as I Want Candy by Bow Wow Wow.

Just saying. :)
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Post by: dmg on November 19, 2018, 02:16:32 PM
Melody on the verse is the same as I Want Candy by Bow Wow Wow.

Just saying. :)

But it has tasty licks.  ;) :P
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2018, 02:22:50 PM
Melody on the verse is the same as I Want Candy by Bow Wow Wow.

Just saying. :)

Well that's some insane observation. Looked up this song on YouTube and the most popular comment made me laugh:

Quote from: YouTube
The "bad" songs from the 80s are better than the "good" songs of today.
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Post by: border_reiver on November 19, 2018, 03:18:06 PM
Has anyone else noticed there is a different lyric to 'Trapper Man' on the official MK website?

The actual lyric is:

"Let the gold and silver come to you
So leave the dirty work to me"

However, the lyric printed on the official MK website is:

"Let the gold and silver come to you
I need you but you need me"

I did.

Many many many pages ago...  ;)
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Post by: Justme on November 19, 2018, 05:23:17 PM
I see mighty Bob singing this.  :hmm :wave
But all these songs grow on me, that is sure.
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Post by: knopflertom on August 10, 2022, 06:40:37 PM
I just saw this yesterday in the Scottish Highlands „Trading Post“ with „Bacon Rolls“ quite funny   :lol

(https://up.picr.de/44158566xk.jpeg)

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Post by: Stanko on August 10, 2022, 10:28:08 PM
I just saw this yesterday in the Scottish Highlands „Trading Post“ with „Bacon Rolls“ quite funny   :lol

(https://up.picr.de/44158566xk.jpeg)
Outermost
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Post by: dmg on August 11, 2022, 11:44:17 AM
I just saw this yesterday in the Scottish Highlands „Trading Post“ with „Bacon Rolls“ quite funny   :lol



Looks like the wild west but you're only 65 miles from me!  Hope you're having a nice time and enjoying the good weather.
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Post by: knopflertom on August 11, 2022, 11:36:25 PM
Yes I‘m doing the West Highland Way. It‘s awesome. I haven‘t thought that I would get a sunburn in Scotland  :lol The countryside is very beautiful, really special!  :) :thumbsup