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Title: (05) When You Leave
Post by: shangri la 1 on September 22, 2018, 04:41:26 AM
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When You Leave  Mark Knopfler (4:12)
Richard Bennett, Guitar
Ian Thomas, Drums
Glenn Worf, Bass Guitar
Mark Knopfler, Guitar, Vocals
Jim Cox, Piano
Danny Cummings, Percussion
Guy Fletcher, Vibraphone, Recording Engineer


LYRICS

When you leave
There’s cordite in the air
A ringing in the stillness
Smoke drifting up the stair
When you leave

When you leave
My heart sounds in my ears
A beating in the darkness
A trace of you still here
When you leave
When you leave

Like it or not
How could I not have fallen for you?
And now that I’m caught
How could I not be blue?

When you leave
I’ll hear the smallest sound
And turn to look behind me
As though you’re still around
When you leave
When you leave

© © 2018 Will D. Side Limited
℗ 2018 Will D. Side Limited


CHORDS: When You Leave - by quizzaciously
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/when_you_leave_chords_2518092
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 15, 2018, 10:13:55 AM
Surprised not to see any comments on this song so far. I love how it sounds almost like a Russian romance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_romance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_romance)). I feel a lot of Eastern Europe in it and not so much jazz. Very poignant song for sure and one of my favourites from the album and not because of jazz at all.

By the way, the chords: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/when_you_leave_chords_2518092 (https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/when_you_leave_chords_2518092)
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Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2018, 10:29:34 AM
You are right... It's a lovely jazzy balad, I love any single blow from the trumpet... what a great track...

It has something from the Metroland instrumental songs... and what a piano.
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Post by: The Privateer on November 15, 2018, 10:32:24 AM
One of my favourites as well.
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Post by: border_reiver on November 15, 2018, 11:21:52 AM
Couldn't even listen all way through.

Not even close to my cuppa.  :thumbsdown
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Post by: straitsway75 on November 15, 2018, 04:45:53 PM
I listen a lot this song, like now, Mark in this album had discovering all music, in this and Slow Lerner, jazz.
Well done but in all sincerility
Mark for me is at world  for rock and countryblues....
 :thumbsup

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Post by: dmg on November 15, 2018, 06:03:50 PM
Nice song.  Good atmosphere and vocal from Mark.  The trumpet lends a touch of class.  I can't see myself listening to this often but it's very nice nonetheless.
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Post by: straitsway75 on November 15, 2018, 06:46:34 PM
Nice song.  Good atmosphere and vocal from Mark.  The trumpet lends a touch of class.  I can't see myself listening to this often but it's very nice nonetheless.
.....yes what I would say, is a great jazz song, well done, but like you say 'I can't see myself listening often this one'
 :thumbsup
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Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2018, 06:48:46 PM
I can say that I will put this record just to listen to this jewel alone!
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Post by: Fletch on November 16, 2018, 10:21:23 AM
I can say that I will put this record just to listen to this jewel alone!

Indeed, not much chatter but this track is sublime.
A bit of a shock to hear GOYS afterwards if I'm honest!
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 16, 2018, 10:22:48 AM
Indeed.
I find the running order from the first 6 tracks somewhat strange... 2-3-4 for example.. pretty harsh..

LE
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Post by: neco on November 16, 2018, 11:55:00 AM
Wow what a lovely song! I love it.. just gives you a smile on your face listening to this beautiful melodies
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Post by: Urrim on November 16, 2018, 02:36:20 PM
What a lovely song! I just got a bit into Jazz last couple of months, so it's great to hear Mark exploring his boundaries too.
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Post by: jbanik on November 16, 2018, 11:00:24 PM
This song is a gem. I can't stop listening to it!
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Post by: Robson on November 16, 2018, 11:08:39 PM
This song is a gem. I can't stop listening to it!


 :thumbsup
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Post by: Shangri-La on November 17, 2018, 09:07:32 AM
A very very boring song. I don't buy an album of Mark for listening this.  :smack
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 17, 2018, 09:58:41 AM
A very very boring song. I don't buy an album of Mark for listening this.  :smack

Agree actually.

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on November 17, 2018, 10:13:03 AM
I respect those who love it but I wouldn't want to hear it live. It would be kind of a buzz kill.
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Post by: holaknopfler on November 17, 2018, 10:14:48 AM
Live this wouldn’t work but boy I love this song.
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Post by: Robson on November 17, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
Number one.
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Post by: mschaap on November 17, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
What a masterpiece! Truly brilliant!
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Post by: jbaent on November 18, 2018, 04:12:21 PM
Number one.

Are you posting this in every song thread? Really? Why?
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Post by: Robson on November 18, 2018, 04:16:46 PM
If there is a ban, please amit for removal.
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Post by: jbaent on November 18, 2018, 04:22:02 PM
If there is a ban, please amit for removal.

No, there is not. But if you find is needed to say the same thing in the 19 threads... Go for it. Quite interesting apports.
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Post by: Robson on November 18, 2018, 04:29:08 PM
It's easy. If I do not know which song I like more than Drover's Road or Nobody's Child or When you Leave or One Song In A Time or .... For me, each is number one. That's all.
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Post by: jbaent on November 18, 2018, 04:30:12 PM
It's easy. If I do not know which song I like more than Drover's Road or Nobody's Child or When you Leave or One Song In A Time or .... For me, each is number one. That's all.

That's why you avoid the top five thread.

LOL
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Post by: Robson on November 18, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
I can not make a favorite five. I like songs too much that I have at the same level
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Post by: goon525 on November 23, 2018, 12:06:40 AM
I think this might just be the masterpiece on the album. I can imagine someone like Diana Krall singing this with an arrangement quite similar to the one on the record. I can see why it’s not to the taste of non-jazz lovers here, but I think this is quite special. In terms of doing it live, no probably not in the huge arenas MK has reverted to, but it would have worked very well at Ronnie Scott’s back in the Hillbilly days.
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 23, 2018, 12:32:44 AM
I think this might just be the masterpiece on the album. I can imagine someone like Diana Krall singing this with an arrangement quite similar to the one on the record. I can see why it’s not to the taste of non-jazz lovers here, but I think this is quite special. In terms of doing it live, no probably not in the huge arenas MK has reverted to, but it would have worked very well at Ronnie Scott’s back in the Hillbilly days.

Yes and I'm shocked that some people dislike the song to the point of not including it in their "best" version of the album. I mean — how on Earth you can dislike the song like that? It's timeless and a classic MK song. It's not even all about jazz that much. It's like minor version of The Ragpicker's Dream — a folk ballad dressed in jazzy clothes. Slow Learner is straight up jazz, but When You Leave has more to it.
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Post by: Robson on November 23, 2018, 02:30:33 AM
For me one of the most beautiful.

I have Slow Learner, Nobody's Child and maybe Floating Away in the same category.
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Post by: Markus on November 23, 2018, 05:02:00 AM
I think this might just be the masterpiece on the album.
I think so too, it's a great song and one of my favorite.
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Post by: caci99 on November 23, 2018, 01:04:12 PM
What's that strange sound like a pop at around 3:15?

By the way, I love this song too :)
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Post by: jbaent on November 23, 2018, 02:35:04 PM
It's a nice song but I don't like when arranging the song, you have instruments playing exactly the same MK is singing, instead of doing something creative and nice. Like here, that the trump's exactly the same MK sings. It's beautiful anyway, but it's just an easy filling. 
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Post by: superval99 on November 23, 2018, 02:48:19 PM
What's that strange sound like a pop at around 3:15?

By the way, I love this song too :)

Champagne cork?   ;D     I really love this song.  It's definitely one of my favourites.    :)
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Post by: Eddie Fox on November 23, 2018, 03:06:27 PM
I quite like this one too. Don't think it's a masterpiece but it does show how versatile Mark is.
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Post by: mschaap on November 23, 2018, 09:46:05 PM
This song could have been a standard from the American songbook. It’s new and original but has that kind of timeless quality to sound like a classic, a masterpiece. Really impressive and above all, beautiful!
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Post by: spturner on December 16, 2018, 10:11:08 PM
Great ballad but the lyrics hint of a dark back story like Hill Farmer Blues.  Does anyone else feel that?

ST
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Post by: goon525 on December 16, 2018, 10:33:37 PM
Not particularly, I’m afraid. But I still think it’s a great song, although it’s so un-Straitsy I can see why not everyone would like it.
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Post by: hunter on December 17, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
Both this and Slow Learner are really pretty jazzy crooner type songs, but I'm not sure Mark's voice suits them well. I'd love to hear Diana Krall do a version of them.
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Post by: dmg on December 17, 2018, 12:14:14 PM
Both this and Slow Learner are really pretty jazzy crooner type songs, but I'm not sure Mark's voice suits them well. I'd love to hear Diana Krall do a version of them.

I know what you mean.  I'm not sure it's that his voice doesn't suit them so much as we're just not used to hearing him singing like this.  There's just something that doesn't sit right.
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Post by: goon525 on December 17, 2018, 12:54:09 PM
Funnily enough, I'd already suggested Diana Krall in correspondence with my brother.
I do think When You Leave is a vastly better song than Slow Learner.
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Post by: hunter on December 17, 2018, 03:27:25 PM
I do think When You Leave is a vastly better song than Slow Learner.

Musically they are rather similar, but the lyrics of When You Leave are much better (IMO). Really beautiful writing. Lyrically, Slow Learner bothers me because I find the way that Mark talks about himself (struggles with zipping up a jacket, etc. - really???) kind of irritating. That coupled with the 'serious' music, I don't know what to make of it. Maybe it would work better (for me) if the music was more humorous, as if he were laughing at himself.
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Post by: rmarques821 on January 04, 2019, 01:18:26 AM
Love this song...such a beautiful melody!
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Post by: Markus on January 04, 2019, 07:03:41 PM
Love this song...such a beautiful melody!
Yes, it's one of his greatest songs!
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Post by: gguerre on January 11, 2019, 12:05:05 AM
I find it tastes like "Manha de carnaval" from the Black Orpheus opera...
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Post by: DavidD on January 11, 2019, 01:46:25 AM
I find it tastes like "Manha de carnaval" from the Black Orpheus opera...

I think his move toward the jazz side of things is terrific!  It's haunting and the honesty in his voice has few peers, especially as he closes out the song.  This genre and styling is absolutely perfect for my tastes.  I think this shift makes DTRW a superb album. 
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Post by: Lis on January 29, 2019, 06:34:33 AM
Great ballad but the lyrics hint of a dark back story like Hill Farmer Blues.  Does anyone else feel that?

ST
Completely agree; the setup in the beginning is especially trenchant: "When you leave...There’s cordite in the air". Once again, MK creates an incredibly visual atmosphere for his song.
And what a beautiful song! 
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Post by: Knopflerfan on January 29, 2019, 07:03:28 AM
Great ballad but the lyrics hint of a dark back story like Hill Farmer Blues.  Does anyone else feel that?

ST
Completely agree; the setup in the beginning is especially trenchant: "When you leave...There’s cordite in the air". Once again, MK creates an incredibly visual atmosphere for his song.
And what a beautiful song!

Just a fabulous 'haunting' song with amazing powerful lyrics...
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 24, 2020, 03:10:33 PM
I have a deep feeling that the song was influenced by Chet Baker musically, particularly that masterpiece come to mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4PKzz81m5c
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Post by: Stanko on November 24, 2020, 09:39:05 PM
 :thumbsup
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Post by: Lis on November 25, 2020, 02:09:23 AM
 :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Post by: blamelouis on November 03, 2023, 08:02:15 AM
Beautiful song reminds me of Rudiger .