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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Down The Road Wherever => Topic started by: shangri la 1 on September 22, 2018, 05:09:03 am

Title: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: shangri la 1 on September 22, 2018, 05:09:03 am
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Heavy Up  Mark Knopfler (6:00)
Richard Bennett, Guitar
Ian Thomas, Drums
Lance Ellington, Background Vocalist
Beverley Skeete, Background Vocalist
Nigel Hitchcock, Tenor Saxophone
Glenn Worf, Bass Guitar
Mark Knopfler, Guitar, Vocals
Jim Cox, Piano, Synthesizer
Katie Kissoon, Background Vocalist
Tom Walsh, Trumpet
Trevor Mires, Trombone
Danny Cummings, Percussion
Guy Fletcher, Organ, Recording Engineer


LYRICS

Your slack-jawed dimness is our loss
Condemns us to your point of view
Who could give a flying toss
What you like to chill out to?
And why should I lighten up for you
If you can’t heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?

You grunt and root your patch of earth
Adrift from shame and deaf to sound
How much is your praise really worth?
About the same as your thumbs down
And why should I lighten up for you
If you can’t heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?

So heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me

What would it take
To get you to shut it?
I’d so love it

And why should I lighten up for you
If you can’t heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?

So heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me

You won’t of course, you will be heard
Ah, but at least a man can dream
I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
And why should I lighten up for you
If you can’t heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?

So heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me

Yeah, heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me

© © 2018 Will D. Side Limited
℗ 2018 Will D. Side Limited

CHORDS: Heavy Up - by quizzaciously
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/heavy_up_chords_2518557
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 01:10:39 pm
inspired by a fellow songwriter who told Mark that his response to being told to “lighten up” was “I’ll lighten up for you if you’ll heavy up for me.”
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Love Expresso on September 28, 2018, 01:14:42 pm
Don't find a translation that helps me to understand the meaning of "heavy up for someone".

LE
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 01:20:34 pm
Don't find a translation that helps me to understand the meaning of "heavy up for someone".

LE

Maybe "lighten up for you" could mean take it easy and "heavy up for me" like "hurry up and get the job done" or something similar?

Calling our fellows  ;D
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Love Expresso on September 28, 2018, 01:33:37 pm
Pretty sure that it is about Bob by the way...
 
EDIT after reading the lyrics: Totally wrong  :lol

LE
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Stanko on September 28, 2018, 08:51:13 pm
i don't know, i could be totally wrong but it sounds to me like "i'm up for you out there but only after you do your best for me", something like that i guess.

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Post by: Dutchessy on November 14, 2018, 09:29:37 pm
Very cool song  :)
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Post by: dmg on November 14, 2018, 09:52:07 pm
So-so.  Very average song IMHO.
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Post by: Nick14 on November 14, 2018, 10:12:51 pm
Any DM for these tracks much appreciated!
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Post by: El Macho on November 14, 2018, 11:28:32 pm
JF talked about the Vanessa Paradis' song Joe Le Taxi, yes it immediatly made me think about it !!!
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Post by: JF on November 14, 2018, 11:51:13 pm
JF talked about the Vanessa Paradis' song Joe Le Taxi, yes it immediatly made me think about it !!!

 :lol :lol ;D ;D n'est-ce pas ?
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 15, 2018, 09:42:10 am
Must say I love this one really! Once you get used to it being so uplifting and fun, you can't denie how inbelievably well done this one is: Trumpet solo, trombone solo, guitar solo, percussion break .. These nasty lyrics ... love it. Indeed a track for dancing!

Oh boy when that trumpet sets in at 1:59... sooo well played and such a nice melody! Really good  .

LE
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Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2018, 09:55:12 am
Quite a strange and nice song at the same time... Like it!
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 15, 2018, 02:20:26 pm
Boy, this one could really replace live the boring Paraguay song to introduce the band ... sounds like good fun...

LE
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Post by: Guitarman1972 on November 15, 2018, 07:33:36 pm
Feel a bit a Bob Marley vibe in this song.  :think
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Post by: enrkaton82 on November 15, 2018, 08:12:35 pm
Feel a bit a Bob Marley vibe in this song.  :think

I felt the same way  ;D
"
Despite the fact this is not obviously reggae, it has some reggae chops. The ambient, the mood, the secondary male vocals that shout in a certain part, percussion arrangement and something on the guitar solo could make that feel

On the other hand, the Calypso flavour remainds me the irish-calypso-reggae-prog-rock "Portobello Belle" versions (82-83). Calypso drums are only missing, but i guess that it would bee too much for this record  :lol
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Post by: Hugo97 on November 15, 2018, 11:14:04 pm
I really get that world-infused vibe of many Paul Simon songs from it, quite nice. This might become one of my favourites.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 16, 2018, 07:32:17 am
Definitely a very bright tune, and get the Bob Marley feel to it!!
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 16, 2018, 10:27:23 am
After the first shock of "what's that!!!" already with the second listen I totally fell in love with this song!
So much fun and so well played by all!

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on November 16, 2018, 10:32:52 am
In Sweden this is called danceband music.  ;D
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 16, 2018, 10:43:37 am
You can say that about a lot of music can't you?

I have the feeling that we (not you!!) we are a bunch of very spoiled die-harders which expectations that CANNOT be fullfilled by him. We have also many musical prejudices in our head that prevent us from encountering the songs more open minded. So MK is ahead of us in this case to a certain extent..

Again .. your post just let me go off with this twaddle.. it's not directes to you.  :wave

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on November 16, 2018, 11:41:46 am
Haha

Well danceband is something very Scandinavian. You wouldn't understand.   :)
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 16, 2018, 11:48:50 am
Ok!  :wave

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on November 16, 2018, 11:55:59 am
Ok!  :wave

LE

I wouldn't have the heart to let the good people of AMIT get exposed to that cringeworthy experience so let's just leave it at that. The Scandinavians in here will smile and nod. :)
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Post by: border_reiver on November 18, 2018, 10:46:52 pm
I wonder if the unmentioned songwriter (who MK states he knows) who said those lines might be Mr Bob. Sounds like something that he would crow out.

"I'll lighten up for you if you heavy up for me".

MK's usually keen on name dropping if someone was the inspiration for a song. But now he's secretive.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 18, 2018, 10:52:22 pm
Thought the same ...

LE
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 18, 2018, 10:54:41 pm
And I have a question about the term ...

I find "to lighten up" in every dictionary. But heavy up not. So is it indeed not a usual phrase but "invented" by that songwriter as the opposite of lighten  up?

LE
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 18, 2018, 10:56:24 pm
I wonder if the unmentioned songwriter (who MK states he knows) who said those lines might be Mr Bob. Sounds like something that he would crow out.

"I'll lighten up for you if you heavy up for me".

MK's usually keen on name dropping if someone was the inspiration for a song. But now he's secretive.

Riiiiiiiiight, that was so strange. Why you can be so secretive about some songwriter? He mentioned Bob Dylan before no problem...
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Post by: border_reiver on November 18, 2018, 11:04:11 pm
Thought the same ...

LE

Yes you did. Missed that, sorry!
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Post by: pamplina on November 19, 2018, 02:42:30 pm
And I have a question about the term ...

I find "to lighten up" in every dictionary. But heavy up not. So is it indeed not a usual phrase but "invented" by that songwriter as the opposite of lighten  up?

LE
I agree. These are invented words to refer to the opposite of "lighten up".
So the meaning of "why should I lighten up for you if you can’t heavy up for me?" is "why I should make it easy for you if you can't take care of mine?"
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Post by: dmg on November 19, 2018, 03:40:13 pm
And I have a question about the term ...

I find "to lighten up" in every dictionary. But heavy up not. So is it indeed not a usual phrase but "invented" by that songwriter as the opposite of lighten  up?

LE
I agree. These are invented words to refer to the opposite of "lighten up".
So the meaning of "why should I lighten up for you if you can’t heavy up for me?" is "why I should make it easy for you if you can't take care of mine?"

Lighten up = take things less seriously
Heavy up = (presumably) take things more seriously

I find this lighten up/heavy up business all rather silly and frankly confusing in a song.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 19, 2018, 04:20:01 pm
Yes the meaning I understood .. what I meant  was if this "heavy up" was invented so to say by that songwriter or was it a common expression before?

LE
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Post by: dmg on November 19, 2018, 04:42:21 pm
Yes the meaning I understood .. what I meant  was if this "heavy up" was invented so to say by that songwriter or was it a common expression before?

LE

I've never heard of it.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: jabbathehut on November 21, 2018, 06:55:04 pm
imo this song has huge potential live.Maybe to replace postcards or as pre encore song or even marbletown.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 21, 2018, 07:12:46 pm
“Heavy up is one of those peculiar, specialized terms in the world of home renovation and electrical systems. Essentially, it means to increase the amperage coming into your house--at the service panel--so that your electrical system can receive and handle an increased load.”

Does it make sense to you guys?
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Robson on November 21, 2018, 07:16:14 pm
“Heavy up is one of those peculiar, specialized terms in the world of home renovation and electrical systems. Essentially, it means to increase the amperage coming into your house--at the service panel--so that your electrical system can receive and handle an increased load.”

Does it make sense to you guys?

I do not know but the third single?
One of two, maybe the three most surprising on the new album.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 21, 2018, 07:16:26 pm
Anyway, I strongly dislike this song, Les Boys level of dislike. Can’t believe it’s on and Don’t Suck Me In isn’t  :'(
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dmg on November 21, 2018, 07:41:51 pm
“Heavy up is one of those peculiar, specialized terms in the world of home renovation and electrical systems. Essentially, it means to increase the amperage coming into your house--at the service panel--so that your electrical system can receive and handle an increased load.”

Does it make sense to you guys?

So when Mark sings "heavy up for me" that makes him a current? 

He's bound to get a real buzz out of playing this one!  Resistance is futile!   :smack :smack
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: hunter on November 21, 2018, 07:43:52 pm
Anyway, I strongly dislike this song, Les Boys level of dislike. Can’t believe it’s on and Don’t Suck Me In isn’t  :'(

It's a good-mood song and balances out the more serious/somber songs on the album. It's not an amazing song, but not bad, I think.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 21, 2018, 08:07:48 pm
“Heavy up is one of those peculiar, specialized terms in the world of home renovation and electrical systems. Essentially, it means to increase the amperage coming into your house--at the service panel--so that your electrical system can receive and handle an increased load.”

Does it make sense to you guys?

So when Mark sings "heavy up for me" that makes him a current? 

He's bound to get a real buzz out of playing this one!  Resistance is futile!   :smack :smack

Certainly not triggering a short-circuit lol

Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dmg on November 21, 2018, 08:14:07 pm
“Heavy up is one of those peculiar, specialized terms in the world of home renovation and electrical systems. Essentially, it means to increase the amperage coming into your house--at the service panel--so that your electrical system can receive and handle an increased load.”

Does it make sense to you guys?

So when Mark sings "heavy up for me" that makes him a current? 

He's bound to get a real buzz out of playing this one!  Resistance is futile!   :smack :smack

Certainly not triggering a short-circuit lol

My capacitance for awful puns is now at a maximum.  One more before I buzz off: R-ohm-eo and Juliet - he can't resist playing it!
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Love Expresso on November 21, 2018, 08:21:05 pm
Watt it is ...

LE
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: hunter on November 21, 2018, 08:27:26 pm
Ohm my god ...
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: mschaap on November 21, 2018, 08:49:37 pm
Strongly dislike this song. Of course, you can’t like am all but this one sounds so simple and superficial both musically and lyrically that I really can’t stand listening to it. Though I always like Mark’s more serious songs a bit of variety generally doesn’t hurt, however to me this is an exception as it is so far off and plain silly that it destroys the flow of the album.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Love Expresso on November 21, 2018, 08:53:46 pm
Strongly disagree. I love this song. Music, mood, vibe at it's best. Great solos, cool rhythm section and very good arrangement. On par with Nobody Does That.
Hope for live version replacing Paraguay.

LE
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: mschaap on November 21, 2018, 09:05:32 pm
Must admit I believe that what they aimed for they did in splendid way. i don’t think it’s really bad or anything, just strongly dislike it. Just a matter of personal preference/taste, good to hear there’s something in there for others to fully appreciate.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dannr1 on November 21, 2018, 09:22:28 pm
I find this song awesome! Would be great live with extended horn-solos and cool impros. Its light-hearted and catchy and gets one in a good mood
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 21, 2018, 10:45:32 pm
“Heavy up is one of those peculiar, specialized terms in the world of home renovation and electrical systems. Essentially, it means to increase the amperage coming into your house--at the service panel--so that your electrical system can receive and handle an increased load.”

Does it make sense to you guys?

So when Mark sings "heavy up for me" that makes him a current? 

He's bound to get a real buzz out of playing this one!  Resistance is futile!   :smack :smack

Certainly not triggering a short-circuit lol

My capacitance for awful puns is now at a maximum.  One more before I buzz off: R-ohm-eo and Juliet - he can't resist playing it!

I rest my case  :clap
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Vesper on November 21, 2018, 11:22:08 pm
Strongly disagree. I love this song. Music, mood, vibe at it's best. Great solos, cool rhythm section and very good arrangement. On par with Nobody Does That.
Hope for live version replacing Paraguay.

LE
+1
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 25, 2018, 04:38:46 pm
I wonder if the unmentioned songwriter (who MK states he knows) who said those lines might be Mr Bob. Sounds like something that he would crow out.

"I'll lighten up for you if you heavy up for me".

MK's usually keen on name dropping if someone was the inspiration for a song. But now he's secretive.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Roger Waters!!!

I think the general feel/vibe of this song reminds me of the calypso version of So Far Away.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Shai on November 26, 2018, 02:40:19 am
I simply love the line "I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
".

Now when I encounter a**holes during the day, I simply sing this line and I am "floating away"!

Shai
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Fletch on November 26, 2018, 05:57:15 am
I simply love the line "I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
".

Now when I encounter a**holes during the day, I simply sing this line and I am "floating away"!

Shai

Can AMIT generate some kind of 'like' button to display ones' pleasure at remarks like this? Rather than having to quote and agree :)
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 07:15:28 am
I simply love the line "I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
".

Now when I encounter a**holes during the day, I simply sing this line and I am "floating away"!

Shai

Can AMIT generate some kind of 'like' button to display ones' pleasure at remarks like this? Rather than having to quote and agree :)

There's a "thumbs up" emo!     ;)
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: quizzaciously on November 26, 2018, 08:26:34 am
I simply love the line "I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
".

Now when I encounter a**holes during the day, I simply sing this line and I am "floating away"!

Shai

Can AMIT generate some kind of 'like' button to display ones' pleasure at remarks like this? Rather than having to quote and agree :)

I agree.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 08:51:10 am
I simply love the line "I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
".

Now when I encounter a**holes during the day, I simply sing this line and I am "floating away"!

Shai

Can AMIT generate some kind of 'like' button to display ones' pleasure at remarks like this? Rather than having to quote and agree :)

I agree.


Having a "like" button would make it more like Facebook and that is one of the many reasons why I'm not a member there!    "Like" buttons would suppress conversation and also opinions, because if there is a "like" button there would also have to be a "dislike" button, which could deter people from posting in case of getting the thumbs down.    Therefore I disagree and hope it never happens on AMIT!

What's so difficult in just pressing the "thumbs up" emo anyway?  ???
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: hunter on November 26, 2018, 09:46:49 am
There doesn't have to be a Dislike button (there isn't one on FB), but personally I'm perfectly happy without a Like button. Let's talk instead!
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 09:53:15 am
There doesn't have to be a Dislike button (there isn't one on FB), but personally I'm perfectly happy without a Like button. Let's talk instead!

I agree, the art of conversation is very precious and should be encouraged.   

At the very start of AMIT in 2008, there was a trial run of a "kudos" button.  Members got points for how good their posts were, or not, as I remember.   It was withdrawn after a short trial.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: hunter on November 26, 2018, 10:54:44 am
There doesn't have to be a Dislike button (there isn't one on FB), but personally I'm perfectly happy without a Like button. Let's talk instead!

I agree, the art of conversation is very precious and should be encouraged.   

At the very start of AMIT in 2008, there was a trial run of a "kudos" button.  Members got points for how good their posts were, or not, as I remember.   It was withdrawn after a short trial.

One may of course argue how much "conversation" it is when people quote a post and just write +1 or use the thumbs-up emoticon. Basically that is the equivalent of a Like, but with a larger footprint (and longer threads to scroll through).
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 10:57:43 am
Yes, that's another way of looking at it!    :)   
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dmg on November 26, 2018, 11:22:09 am
There doesn't have to be a Dislike button (there isn't one on FB), but personally I'm perfectly happy without a Like button. Let's talk instead!

I agree, the art of conversation is very precious and should be encouraged.   

At the very start of AMIT in 2008, there was a trial run of a "kudos" button.  Members got points for how good their posts were, or not, as I remember.   It was withdrawn after a short trial.

One may of course argue how much "conversation" it is when people quote a post and just write +1 or use the thumbs-up emoticon. Basically that is the equivalent of a Like, but with a larger footprint (and longer threads to scroll through).

Exactly and have often thought myself that a "like" button would be helpful.  I have often refrained from agreeing with someone unless I can perhaps add something productive to my "agree" comment as it is otherwise a pointless comment. 
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: quizzaciously on November 26, 2018, 11:38:52 am
There doesn't have to be a Dislike button (there isn't one on FB), but personally I'm perfectly happy without a Like button. Let's talk instead!

I agree, the art of conversation is very precious and should be encouraged.   

At the very start of AMIT in 2008, there was a trial run of a "kudos" button.  Members got points for how good their posts were, or not, as I remember.   It was withdrawn after a short trial.

One may of course argue how much "conversation" it is when people quote a post and just write +1 or use the thumbs-up emoticon. Basically that is the equivalent of a Like, but with a larger footprint (and longer threads to scroll through).

Exactly and have often thought myself that a "like" button would be helpful.  I have often refrained from agreeing with someone unless I can perhaps add something productive to my "agree" comment as it is otherwise a pointless comment.

I agree.

I simply love the line "I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
".

Now when I encounter a**holes during the day, I simply sing this line and I am "floating away"!

Shai

Can AMIT generate some kind of 'like' button to display ones' pleasure at remarks like this? Rather than having to quote and agree :)

I agree.


Having a "like" button would make it more like Facebook and that is one of the many reasons why I'm not a member there!    "Like" buttons would suppress conversation and also opinions, because if there is a "like" button there would also have to be a "dislike" button, which could deter people from posting in case of getting the thumbs down.    Therefore I disagree and hope it never happens on AMIT!

What's so difficult in just pressing the "thumbs up" emo anyway?  ???

I disagree :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dmg on November 26, 2018, 11:41:48 am
There doesn't have to be a Dislike button (there isn't one on FB), but personally I'm perfectly happy without a Like button. Let's talk instead!

I agree, the art of conversation is very precious and should be encouraged.   

At the very start of AMIT in 2008, there was a trial run of a "kudos" button.  Members got points for how good their posts were, or not, as I remember.   It was withdrawn after a short trial.

One may of course argue how much "conversation" it is when people quote a post and just write +1 or use the thumbs-up emoticon. Basically that is the equivalent of a Like, but with a larger footprint (and longer threads to scroll through).

Exactly and have often thought myself that a "like" button would be helpful.  I have often refrained from agreeing with someone unless I can perhaps add something productive to my "agree" comment as it is otherwise a pointless comment.

I agree.

I simply love the line "I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
".

Now when I encounter a**holes during the day, I simply sing this line and I am "floating away"!

Shai

Can AMIT generate some kind of 'like' button to display ones' pleasure at remarks like this? Rather than having to quote and agree :)

I agree.


Having a "like" button would make it more like Facebook and that is one of the many reasons why I'm not a member there!    "Like" buttons would suppress conversation and also opinions, because if there is a "like" button there would also have to be a "dislike" button, which could deter people from posting in case of getting the thumbs down.    Therefore I disagree and hope it never happens on AMIT!

What's so difficult in just pressing the "thumbs up" emo anyway?  ???

I disagree :lol :lol :lol

Number one.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 11:47:10 am
Yes, yes, you've made your point!    :lol   :clap   I still hate FB though!   ::)





Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Love Expresso on November 27, 2018, 10:49:47 am
No "Like" button please!

LE
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 28, 2018, 08:00:32 am
The kudos button caused resentment, but maybe because everyone had a little score next to them of how many "likes" they had received, and it just became a popularity contest.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 28, 2018, 08:05:44 am
Back to the song.

We haven't really discussed the lyric.

MK REALLY having a go at music critics in this one.

Is he actually turning into a grumpy old man?
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: hunter on November 28, 2018, 08:35:02 am
Back to the song.

We haven't really discussed the lyric.

MK REALLY having a go at music critics in this one.

Is he actually turning into a grumpy old man?

Do we know it's the music critics he sings about?

Reading the lyrics, I kind of hear a Money For Nothing type style of music. I like the music as it is, but I don't think it goes that well with the lyrics.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 28, 2018, 08:53:35 am
Off to work so I don't have time to quote the exact points but it's absolutely clear to me. No doubt in my mind.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dmg on November 28, 2018, 01:00:34 pm
Back to the song.

We haven't really discussed the lyric.

MK REALLY having a go at music critics in this one.

Is he actually turning into a grumpy old man?

Past tense.  :lol
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: jbaent on November 28, 2018, 02:31:17 pm
The kudos button caused resentment, but maybe because everyone had a little score next to them of how many "likes" they had received, and it just became a popularity contest.

The problem was that it gave the chance to vote negative to post. I recall voting negative to something Pottel posted just as a private joke between he and I and I got a warning from Dan!

LOL
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: jbaent on November 28, 2018, 02:33:05 pm
It took a while but finally this one was the prize of my skipper song of the record.

I have the full cd with bonus in my car and the last three listenings to it, I skipped heavy up without hesitation.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: goon525 on November 28, 2018, 07:20:41 pm
Whereas I quite like it, find myself humming it randomly. It’s just as well we’ve got 19 songs to argue about, something for everyone. Although, obviously, the withdrawn 20th song would clearly have been the best of the lot...
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: dmg on November 28, 2018, 10:34:17 pm
Back to the song.

We haven't really discussed the lyric.

MK REALLY having a go at music critics in this one.

Is he actually turning into a grumpy old man?

Absolutely!
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: holaknopfler on November 28, 2018, 10:44:02 pm
It took a while but finally this one was the prize of my skipper song of the record.

I have the full cd with bonus in my car and the last three listenings to it, I skipped heavy up without hesitation.

I have that with Just a boy. Can't listen to it. I deleted it from my playlist. Bit harsh but it's the truth. I love heavy up on the other hand. Funny it stays, the different taste people have!
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: jbaent on November 28, 2018, 11:35:03 pm
It took a while but finally this one was the prize of my skipper song of the record.

I have the full cd with bonus in my car and the last three listenings to it, I skipped heavy up without hesitation.

I have that with Just a boy. Can't listen to it. I deleted it from my playlist. Bit harsh but it's the truth. I love heavy up on the other hand. Funny it stays, the different taste people have!

It's not that I don't like it, actually I do like it, but in comparation with the next songs, I don't feel like listening to heavy up and I skip it to the wonderful every heart in the room.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: superval99 on November 29, 2018, 07:25:59 am
It took a while but finally this one was the prize of my skipper song of the record.

I have the full cd with bonus in my car and the last three listenings to it, I skipped heavy up without hesitation.

I have that with Just a boy. Can't listen to it. I deleted it from my playlist. Bit harsh but it's the truth. I love heavy up on the other hand. Funny it stays, the different taste people have!

I can't bear Just a Boy either.  Apart from not liking the slide guitar, or Junkie Doll/Donegan, I feel it is in the wrong place on the album tracking order - it spoils the flow between Nobody's Child and When You Leave.   Heavy Up is OK at the moment, but I'm beginning to feel bored with it now.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: hunter on November 29, 2018, 09:37:14 am
It took a while but finally this one was the prize of my skipper song of the record.

I have the full cd with bonus in my car and the last three listenings to it, I skipped heavy up without hesitation.

I have that with Just a boy. Can't listen to it. I deleted it from my playlist. Bit harsh but it's the truth. I love heavy up on the other hand. Funny it stays, the different taste people have!

I can't bear Just a Boy either.  Apart from not liking the slide guitar, or Junkie Doll/Donegan, I feel it is in the wrong place on the album tracking order - it spoils the flow between Nobody's Child and When You Leave.   Heavy Up is OK at the moment, but I'm beginning to feel bored with it now.

I like Just a Boy, but I think the You'll Never Walk Alone quote got old a bit quick. It's something that would work as spontaneous improvisation, but to listen to it again and again - I don't know. Maybe because it's so long.

Overall, as far as the entire album is concerned, I have to say the honeymoon phase passed a bit too quickly. Perhaps I've just become too blasé and picky.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: superval99 on December 10, 2018, 03:50:50 pm
"Heavy Up" seems to me to be in a similar vein to "Tall Order Baby" and "What Have I Got To Do" from the Cannibals EP and I wonder if it was a left-over from Golden Heart?    :think   
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Knopflerfan on December 10, 2018, 05:38:21 pm
"Heavy Up" seems to me to be in a similar vein to "Tall Order Baby" and "What Have I Got To Do" from the Cannibals EP and I wonder if it was a left-over from Golden Heart?    :think   

Good, valid point's there Val....... :wave
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: hunter on December 10, 2018, 06:11:47 pm
"Heavy Up" seems to me to be in a similar vein to "Tall Order Baby" and "What Have I Got To Do" from the Cannibals EP and I wonder if it was a left-over from Golden Heart?    :think   

But a new recording, then? Different vocals (Mark's) plus the backing vocals. Musically though it has the same happy clappy feel to it as for instance What Have I Got To Do.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Lis on January 29, 2019, 07:44:46 am
Back to the song.

We haven't really discussed the lyric.

MK REALLY having a go at music critics in this one.

Is he actually turning into a grumpy old man?
I love this song.  Such a happy-sounding song as MK take a some serious digs at the critics.   I don't see this quite as a grumpy old man, rather I think this him taking a fun, but precise dig at his critics.  "I’m afraid, alas, the turd... Who thinks he’s an ice cream."  haha! 
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: pigster on March 21, 2019, 09:31:22 am
Just to add a potential twist to the discussion ... we know MK’s songs often have multiple meanings and may be about many stories.
In Scotland, a pint of bitter (ale) is a pint of “heavy”. Similarly, a pint of mild is “light”. It could be why should I buy you a pint of bitter if you won’t get me a mild. Or even drink-wars...why do you drink mild, go for bitter! Or teasing ‘this is a man’s drink’.
Just a thought!
Overall I’d still say it’s a fun tongue in cheek song rather than the ramblings of a grumpy old man!
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Simon (formerley known as Simon) on May 05, 2019, 08:08:30 pm
'Lighten up' is a phrase we have in the UK. It means 'come on.. see things from my perspective' (my own definition). And what he is saying is .. if you want me to lighten up for you why not you 'heavy up' for me. i.e come down to my level rather than me go up to yours. Its basically a play on words - its a song about nothing. And to cap it all it is a very very poor attempt at a song in my opinion. Its like watching TV and an advert comes on and this is the backing track for an orange juice or breakfast product. Its so basic I just cant comprehend it came from the man himself.
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Stanko on June 12, 2019, 09:12:02 pm
Yes, yes, you've made your point!    :lol   :clap   I still hate FB though!   ::)
  ;D :thumbsup
so do I plus the planet i live on as well, but still keep on to carry on on it
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: Stanko on June 12, 2019, 09:24:54 pm
Off to work so I don't have time to quote the exact points but it's absolutely clear to me. No doubt in my mind.
:thumbsup
that envelope one of my initial ideas as well, along with the ignorance towards a band member, or even, perhaps, fans (or critics in general)
Title: Re: (13) Heavy Up
Post by: jbaent on December 15, 2020, 12:28:47 pm
I'm not Spotify premium member, so when listen to music on spotify I got adds from time to time. When I'm listening "DTRW" on Spotify and "Heavy Up" starts I always thinks it's an add, LOL