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Title: (16) Matchstick Man
Post by: shangri la 1 on September 22, 2018, 05:19:39 AM
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Matchstick Man  Mark Knopfler (2:52)
Mark Knopfler, Guitar, Vocals

LYRICS

So there he was then, Penzance to play
Christmas Eve in a nowhere band
Now early morning Christmas Day
He’s hitching home to Geordieland

Last night the snow came, just my luck
And who the hell do you think you are
Climbing up into that truck
With your old bag and your guitar

And you, you would-be vagabond
No-one invited you, you know
Matchstick man, up in the dawn
You’ve got five hundred miles to go

The driver now must drop off his load
The snow still laying thick on the ground
Leaves him on a high crossroads
Where he can see for miles around

The sun is shining, sky is blue
And everything is white and bare
Not a car comes into view
There’s nothing moving anywhere

And you, you would-be vagabond
No-one invited you, you know
Matchstick man, you speck upon
These vast and silent plains of snow

© © 2018 Will D. Side Limited
℗ 2018 Will D. Side Limited

CHORDS: Matchstick Man - by quizzaciously
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/matchstick_man_chords_2518788
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Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
Another personal memory that poignantly captures Mark Knopfler as he was, and as he remains. “That’s me,” he confesses readily, “a young idiot with a guitar and a bag, climbing up into trucks and hitchhiking. I was trying to get back from a Christmas Eve gig in Penzance early on Christmas Day. I thought I’d hitch home. I don’t think I really knew it was 500 miles from there.”

“I got a lift up the old A1 and he let me off at a high crossroads in the Midlands. The sun was shining, there was snow everywhere and I could see for miles. There was nothing moving anywhere. I’m standing there with my guitar case and bag and this realization of what I’d chosen to do with my life. To me, it was exactly what I wanted to do. It’s just a snapshot of me then. From the air I would have been a tiny matchstick figure in this vastness of snow with his dream of being a musician.”

“You need some energy to make these things happen,” he concludes. “You’re not going to last if you haven’t got enough to get you through all the tougher times. I feel the same way I always felt. When I come in here and I see a couple of guitars in the corner, I get the same buzz that I had when I was a kid, and you’ve got to have that. It’s almost a childish attitude that keeps you fired up about turning up.”
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Post by: Robson on September 28, 2018, 12:44:47 PM
Mark returns to this story. We heard about it the first time at River Towns...
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Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 01:38:45 PM
Mark returns to this story. We heard about it the first time at River Towns...

Do you have a reference to that? All i read about that song is that is about a story he read by a writer that ended up commiting suicide...
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 28, 2018, 01:54:20 PM
I think what Robson means is that Mark told this story about himself while talking about what the song River Towns is about, relating that you have to be compelled to do what you do, and the fact that that incident cemented his desire to become a musician. So, it is not the same subject as River Towns, but he told the story which is now Matchstick Man, then.
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Post by: Love Expresso on September 28, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
Plus being alone somewhere on Christmas Eve like the character in River Towns, wasn't it?

LE
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Post by: Robson on September 28, 2018, 02:05:34 PM
I think what Robson means is that Mark told this story about himself while talking about what the song River Towns is about, relating that you have to be compelled to do what you do, and the fact that that incident cemented his desire to become a musician. So, it is not the same subject as River Towns, but he told the story which is now Matchstick Man, then.

Exactly. He talks about it on the DVD Tracker. Of course, River Towns does not say that, I think that Matchstick Man will be more personal
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 28, 2018, 02:10:11 PM
It is possible that Mark telling that story again prompted him to write Matchstick Man.
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Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 02:13:40 PM
It is possible that Mark telling that story again prompted him to write Matchstick Man.

Who knows. The story behind Matchstick man is quite old, I had heard it many times before River Towns, probably is written in the Michael Oldfield biography too, who knows, maybe it has the song written from very very long ago, or maybe you are right.
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Post by: Robson on September 28, 2018, 02:20:45 PM
It is possible that Mark telling that story again prompted him to write Matchstick Man.

Who knows. The story behind Matchstick man is quite old, I had heard it many times before River Towns, probably is written in the Michael Oldfield biography too, who knows, maybe it has the song written from very very long ago, or maybe you are right.


I do not remember any similar story from Oldfield's book :think
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Post by: quizzaciously on September 28, 2018, 02:31:13 PM
Another personal memory that poignantly captures Mark Knopfler as he was, and as he remains. “That’s me,” he confesses readily, “a young idiot with a guitar and a bag, climbing up into trucks and hitchhiking. I was trying to get back from a Christmas Eve gig in Penzance early on Christmas Day. I thought I’d hitch home. I don’t think I really knew it was 500 miles from there.”

“I got a lift up the old A1 and he let me off at a high crossroads in the Midlands. The sun was shining, there was snow everywhere and I could see for miles. There was nothing moving anywhere. I’m standing there with my guitar case and bag and this realization of what I’d chosen to do with my life. To me, it was exactly what I wanted to do. It’s just a snapshot of me then. From the air I would have been a tiny matchstick figure in this vastness of snow with his dream of being a musician.”

“You need some energy to make these things happen,” he concludes. “You’re not going to last if you haven’t got enough to get you through all the tougher times. I feel the same way I always felt. When I come in here and I see a couple of guitars in the corner, I get the same buzz that I had when I was a kid, and you’ve got to have that. It’s almost a childish attitude that keeps you fired up about turning up.”


Well that's poetic. Also, credits for the song suggests that it's a solo piece AND the last song on the record. It must be good, no other choices then! Could've made it to the tittle of the album, but...
Title: Re: (16) Matchstick Man
Post by: Billy’s Tune on September 28, 2018, 04:49:07 PM
Where are you picking these snippets up from? Is there an interview I’ve missed or some updated liner notes?
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Post by: jbaent on September 28, 2018, 07:14:57 PM
Where are you picking these snippets up from? Is there an interview I’ve missed or some updated liner notes?

Check the information about the record thread.
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Post by: Billy’s Tune on September 29, 2018, 03:08:52 PM
Ah ha! I’d not seen that. Thank yoooouu.
Title: Re: (16) Matchstick Man
Post by: jbaent on October 04, 2018, 01:02:14 PM
It is possible that Mark telling that story again prompted him to write Matchstick Man.

Who knows. The story behind Matchstick man is quite old, I had heard it many times before River Towns, probably is written in the Michael Oldfield biography too, who knows, maybe it has the song written from very very long ago, or maybe you are right.


I do not remember any similar story from Oldfield's book :think

Of course not, because it's not in that book but in Myles Palmer unauthorized biography.
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Post by: Robson on October 04, 2018, 01:13:50 PM
I suspected so:)
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Post by: jbaent on October 04, 2018, 01:50:20 PM
I suspected so:)

I knew I had read about that story before...
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Post by: TommyJ88 on November 15, 2018, 01:26:52 AM
A nice one, if you liked Heart of Oak, you’ll like this. In fact, part of the music is lifted directly from that song.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 15, 2018, 12:21:22 PM
The magic of Mark with a guitar...

Although it is so similiar and even "no one invited you you know" is exactly from Heart Of Oaks, the tone is so different and warm that you van feel the silence at that place and the warm feelings from  that moment...

I stay with my idea that a complete album with Mark in acoustic alone would be songwriter's heaven..

LE
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 15, 2018, 01:29:44 PM
I would prefer an album of Mark's acoustic demos.
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Post by: regmka on November 15, 2018, 01:56:47 PM
I stay with my idea that a complete album with Mark in acoustic alone would be songwriter's heaven..

Yeah, I yearning for such album since River of Grog. And this track is the great addition to acoustic collection.
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 15, 2018, 02:02:33 PM
Personally I like Heart Of Oak much better, because it's more creative, I mean the lyrics. In Matchstick Man lyrics is so personal I almost feel like I'm stepping into somebody's private life and I'll definitely will not sing this song for myself, which I did with Heart Of Oak. I'm not a fan of extremely autobiographical songs, to me it's more interesting actually to hear the story from the man himself in prose. Besides, in Hart Of Oak there's strict rhythm, there as in Matchstick Man the rhythm is a little bit more vague. Honestly, I was surprised to hear something SO close to Heart Of Oak and of course the similarity is a bummer. So for people who've missed Heart Of Oak for some reason, they cay listen to this song instead.
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Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
When I listen to songs like this one with parts clearly like "heart of oak" I always think:

-he didn't notice about it?
-nobody else, like his producer notice about it?
-if so, nobody tells him he's repeating himself?
-did he mind about it?
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Post by: PensaGhost on November 15, 2018, 02:40:29 PM
the whole album is full of already known parts and melodies

that's probably why he/they chose to have a different background groove/drums/rythm, to sound fresh and new, and they succeeded
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Post by: superval99 on November 15, 2018, 02:48:33 PM
When I listen to songs like this one with parts clearly like "heart of oak" I always think:

-he didn't notice about it?
-nobody else, like his producer notice about it?
-if so, nobody tells him he's repeating himself?
-did he mind about it?

This one is too like Heart of Oak for me, but not so good.   Maybe it will grow, who knows?
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Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2018, 02:50:26 PM
Well, the melody is not so beautiful but it has a very personal MK story...
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 15, 2018, 06:23:15 PM
After the first three listens I totally forgot about Heart Of Oak.. I love this song so much. His voice sounds awesome. I admit that it is a melody that is able to make me cry... beautiful last track.

LE
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Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2018, 06:46:45 PM
After the first three listens I totally forgot about Heart Of Oak.. I love this song so much. His voice sounds awesome. I admit that it is a melody that is able to make me cry... beautiful last track.

LE

He wanted it to be the last song of the two editions, that didn't happen with tracker, so he really wanted it to be the last song in this record.
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Post by: dmg on November 15, 2018, 09:09:47 PM
Nice song but acoustic ones don't usually get my heart going.  Maybe I have a heart of oak... :think
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 15, 2018, 10:27:42 PM
Complete song in Guitar Pro tablature (YES, I said that): https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/matchstick_man_guitar_pro_2518500

If you want to try to sing it, here's a simple computer-generated backing track using samples.

Backingtrack: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hragxW4djdmQKey-l0Qq64HiOTFssVUC

PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1k4AiXEBDduXPR5UWx4w2QCfha0bXKhPr
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 16, 2018, 07:39:50 AM
Lovely, beautiful tune to end the album...
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Post by: pamplina on November 16, 2018, 09:36:06 AM
the whole album is full of already known parts and melodies

that's probably why he/they chose to have a different background groove/drums/rythm, to sound fresh and new, and they succeeded
That's the point, I think.
Of course they know it, and of course it was deliberated.
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Post by: pamplina on November 16, 2018, 09:42:39 AM
In my opinion, this song is a masterpiece. Really deep and emotive.
We are paying too much attention to the similarity with Heart of Oak, but there are only two verses that coincide and, in my opinion, this song is much better and more perfect than the other one.

I imagine him playing it live, perhaps with the only accompaniment of John's fiddle. Goosebumps!
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 16, 2018, 11:31:22 AM
To end an album full of rhythm, synths, drums and brass this way:  Art!

What a wonderful song this is...

LE
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Post by: holaknopfler on November 16, 2018, 11:35:56 AM
I heard this one for the first time last night and it had me in tears after the first chorus. I don't know why. I really love this one. The first time I heard HOO in it and after that, it was gone. Such a beautiful song. Really personal and I love the raw melody. Sounds like a 1 take live recording and that's the beauty. It's like having MK in your living room playing a song for you. Really moved by it.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 16, 2018, 11:41:03 AM
Tears after the first chorus at the first listen - same as me... this is indeed remarkable... it's as if his brilliance culminates in this track, also being so personal, and hits fully and frontal in it's sheer beauty.  No other artist can do that to me.

LE
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Post by: vr46mk on November 16, 2018, 12:31:24 PM
I agree with you. I liked it from the first listening.

Great song and I love the parts where the acoustic guitar alone makes your ears full of joy!

This is def. in my top 5 of the album.
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Post by: Dutchessy on November 16, 2018, 12:43:07 PM
He told in the interview that he likes to play it live. Would be an amazing closer! Just Mark on stage. Lets hope he does it!
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 16, 2018, 12:48:32 PM
To end an album full of rhythm, synths, drums and brass this way:  Art!

What a wonderful song this is...

LE

 :thumbsup :wave :clap
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Post by: border_reiver on November 16, 2018, 12:49:16 PM
He told in the interview that he likes to play it live. Would be an amazing closer! Just Mark on stage. Lets hope he does it!

Agree!

Just before a full band version of Going Home...  ;D
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Post by: rockaway on November 16, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
Absolutely lovely song! Does bear a little resemblance to Heart of Oak, but that's one of my favorites from Tracker (and overall), I've listened to it on repeat for a while several times, so I'm not complaining. Mark is a wonderful storyteller, and my favorite way to listen to him is when it's just him with his guitar— I hope so much it is played live!
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Post by: Robson on November 17, 2018, 03:59:19 PM
Number one
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 18, 2018, 12:52:50 PM
Am I the only one who detects a certain irony in the fact that MK refers to himself as a "Matchstick Man" exactly in the time when we all detect a certain increase of "volume" with him?  ;D

LE
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Post by: dmg on November 18, 2018, 01:16:56 PM
Am I the only one who detects a certain irony in the fact that MK refers to himself as a "Matchstick Man" exactly in the time when we all detect a certain increase of "volume" with him?  ;D

LE

 :lol :lol

I was actually thinking myself that he was looking back in time and thinking how skinny he was, but now you say it compared to now he was a matchstick man!
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Post by: Robson on November 18, 2018, 01:21:41 PM
Looking from above, we are all the same:)
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Post by: allen on November 18, 2018, 02:29:50 PM
I really hope MK can play this track live in one of the coming promo shows, or even bring it to the setlist of the upcoming tour 2019.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 18, 2018, 03:20:41 PM
Some hope indeed. I think it's very unusual from him to mention so early a couple of tracks by name which he considers to play live. Of course there is no warranty for that but he has never done that. So maybe Matchstick Man will turn up eventually!

LE
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Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2018, 01:33:11 PM
I have a question to all the lyrics experts out there...

Why Mark wrote this song from the third person perspective? Isn't that quite strange? It's like I'd write this post like this:

He asks why Mark wrote this song from the third person perspective? He asks because you know that the song is about MK.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 19, 2018, 01:36:33 PM
Maybe because it gives more of the feeling to look at the Matchstick Man ... from above  ..

And to show that this was another man then?

LE
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Post by: Justme on November 19, 2018, 05:18:49 PM
He should must do an acoustic album.
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Post by: jbaent on December 05, 2018, 11:11:48 AM
Every time I listened to "heart of Oak", specially remembering how nice the melody sounded being whistled by MK in the short documentary by Henrik Hansen, I thought: "what a waste of such a wonderful melody, using it for such a short and cricket song, it would had been worth to keep the melody saved until something else better comes..."

And just one record after, comes "matschick man", which sounds great and takes some parts of "heart of oak" but, think how far better would had sounded "matschick" if he had used the "oak" melody in full...

But as it was already used, he had to write another one, that is nice too, but not so nice as the "oak" melody.

Anytime I listened to "matschick", the waste (in my opinion) of the "oak" melody comes to my mind.
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Post by: Love Expresso on December 05, 2018, 12:27:56 PM
Heart of Oak is far from "just" being a cricket song. Lyrically and musically, it's a masterpiece.

Matchstick Man suffers from a pretty shiftless melody (as the whole new album does). Plus there are a lot of mouth/tongue sounds on it which makes it almost unbearable for me to listen to it in the meantime.

LE
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Post by: superval99 on December 05, 2018, 12:34:35 PM
Although I like Matchstick Man for being a very personal song, I don't find either the melody or the guitar playing as beautiful as Heart of Oak, which, although short, was just about perfect. 
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Post by: jbaent on December 05, 2018, 12:36:22 PM
Heart of Oak is far from "just" being a cricket song. Lyrically and musically, it's a masterpiece.

Matchstick Man suffers from a pretty shiftless melody (as the whole new album does). Plus there are a lot of mouth/tongue sounds on it which makes it almost unbearable for me to listen to it in the meantime.

LE

You are right, it's not only a cricket song. It's a song about cricket with beautiful metaphors etc etc, but about cricket, LOL
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Post by: jbaent on December 05, 2018, 12:38:06 PM
Although I like Matchstick Man for being a very personal song, I don't find either the melody or the guitar playing as beautiful as Heart of Oak, which, although short, was just about perfect.

Yes, that's what I mean. Oak's melody is wonderful, very beautiful. Matschick's lyrics with that melody would had sounded far better, in my opinion
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Post by: Vincent Rapide on March 12, 2019, 01:42:33 PM
I have a question to all the lyrics experts out there...

Why Mark wrote this song from the third person perspective? Isn't that quite strange? It's like I'd write this post like this:

He asks why Mark wrote this song from the third person perspective? He asks because you know that the song is about MK.

I think the beautiful trick with this song is Mark's written it using first second and third person:

'Just my luck ... '

'So there he was then ...'

'And you, you vagabond ...'

It's such a wonderful tune. It makes me wonder if he's been saving this one up as his swan song. I sincerely hope not.
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Post by: jbaent on March 12, 2019, 01:55:24 PM
I don't like the narrative used in this song... the third person usually works better than a first person, but if you mix it... it's kind of weird.
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Post by: quizzaciously on March 12, 2019, 02:11:05 PM
I don't like the narrative used in this song... the third person usually works better than a first person, but if you mix it... it's kind of weird.

Me too... A crazy theory might be if somebody else sings that tune, he would sing it about "he", which is Mark, so it will make more sense.
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Post by: Love Expresso on June 05, 2019, 11:15:13 PM
Speaking about yourself in third person in literature is a stylistic device known as "illeism" and can be used for different reasons, google it if interested. One reason mentioned is this:


Illeism is also a device used to show idiocy, as with the character Mongo in Blazing Saddles, e.g. "Mongo like candy" and "Mongo only pawn in game of life" (Note also the lack of articles and verb inflection in both sentences)[citation needed]; though it may also show innocent simplicity, as it does with Harry Potter's Dobby the Elf ("Dobby has come to protect, even if he does have to shut his ears in the oven door").


He described himself as a naive but idealistic fool who does not know how many miles it were back home and so on. The song is written from the perspective of looking back from a wiser age to those very young years. To me it absolutely felt natural that MK used the third person view, funnily. I am sure MK knows a bit about illeisms.

LE
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Post by: superval99 on June 06, 2019, 07:34:02 AM
Speaking about yourself in third person in literature is a stylistic device known as "illeism" and can be used for different reasons, google it if interested. One reason mentioned is this:


Illeism is also a device used to show idiocy, as with the character Mongo in Blazing Saddles, e.g. "Mongo like candy" and "Mongo only pawn in game of life" (Note also the lack of articles and verb inflection in both sentences)[citation needed]; though it may also show innocent simplicity, as it does with Harry Potter's Dobby the Elf ("Dobby has come to protect, even if he does have to shut his ears in the oven door").


He described himself as a naive but idealistic fool who does not know how many miles it were back home and so on. The song is written from the perspective of looking back from a wiser age to those very young years. To me it absolutely felt natural that MK used the third person view, funnily. I am sure MK knows a bit about illeisms.

LE

It could also apply to Romeo in R&J.   MK has said in some interviews that he regards Romeo as someone to pity or as a figure of fun.  I'm sure MK was Romeo.
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Post by: Stanko on June 12, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
I can't be sure, but yes, I can suspect!