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Title: (18) Sky And Water ##* Spoiler Lyrics *##
Post by: shangri la 1 on September 22, 2018, 05:26:52 AM
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Sky And Water  Mark Knopfler (4:33)

LYRICS

There’s only sky and water
As far as we can see
You came in a dream last night
Dear heart, you spoke to me
There’s only sky and water
And never so alone
When we cut the captain loose
We cut all ties with home
Lord, we cut all ties with home

We let the tyrant drift away
In one of his own boats
I don’t know why I stopped the hands
From going for his throat
Every man did curse the day
He signed up for the trip
And every man did know
This was no way to run a ship

Good riddance to his bitter soul
And now we have the brig
It’s sure we’ll not be sailing home
To dance the hempen jig
There’s only sky and water
We sleep and dream of land
But free of chains of iron
And the captain’s iron hand
Lord, the captain’s iron hand

He lashed me to a grating
For the nine claws of the cat
And now I have a fever
But I give no thought to that
I am high over the water
I sleep and dream of land
Free of chains of iron
And the captain’s iron hand
Lord, the captain’s iron hand

© © 2018 Will D. Side Limited
℗ 2018 Will D. Side Limited

CHORDS: Sky And Water - by quizzaciously
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/mark_knopfler/......tba

VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr4csKhln38
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Post by: Love Expresso on October 07, 2018, 04:27:32 PM
Ok the Bounty was not a Brig. So this is not about it. Also some historical details would be not correct in that case.. Fletcher Christian has never been lashed and Bligh was not the tyrant as that he was portrayed in three movies. 
The chains imply that it could be a slave?
This song has the easiest appeal from the new ones. Hurts me that I cannot crack it's code nevertheless.

Of course it is also likely that no real historical event is portrayed here by Mark. But I bet it is based on a book or a movie.

LE
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Post by: dmg on November 14, 2018, 10:27:41 PM
Very nice tune.  Kind of sea shanty.  Mark very comfortable doing this kind of stuff.  Folkies present.  Could easily have come from the Golden Heart sessions.
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Post by: straitsway75 on November 15, 2018, 11:35:17 AM
I don't understand why this track, in bad quality sound, is not in the album  :hmm

very beatiful song, I like too much  :clap :clap :clap Mark
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Post by: Dutchessy on November 15, 2018, 05:40:31 PM
Great track! I like the pipe songs more than the Jazzy trumpet songs.
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Post by: pitx on November 15, 2018, 07:13:42 PM
beautiful song I like  :)
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Post by: Solid Rock on November 15, 2018, 09:01:17 PM
I don't understand why this track, in bad quality sound, is not in the album  :hmm

very beatiful song, I like too much  :clap :clap :clap Mark

Totally agree! It would even fit on the STP album in my opinion.
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Post by: dmg on November 15, 2018, 09:29:54 PM
Great track! I like the pipe songs more than the Jazzy trumpet songs.

The folkies are used sensitively on their tracks in this album I feel; not as dominant as they usually are.  This is a good thing I think.  I wouldn't mind there being more songs like this if their use was more discrete like this.
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Post by: Nick14 on November 16, 2018, 01:20:48 PM
What a great song - a Top 5 for me i think and I wish it was on the deluxe version - hoping I can get a great sounding version of this. Another case of Follow The Ribbon for me!
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Post by: Urrim on November 16, 2018, 05:22:24 PM
Is there any way to listen to these bonus tracks without the LPs? I'm very curious how the bonus tracks turned out.
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Post by: neco on November 17, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
Lovely track.. Should have been one of the 14 official album tracks.. but then which one shouldn‘t be there  :hmm   ;D
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Post by: dmg on November 17, 2018, 11:28:57 AM
Lovely track.. Should have been one of the 14 official album tracks.. but then which one shouldn‘t be there  :hmm   ;D

I love this one too.  It's better than MM.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 17, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
Great track! I like the pipe songs more than the Jazzy trumpet songs.

The folkies are used sensitively on their tracks in this album I feel; not as dominant as they usually are.  This is a good thing I think.  I wouldn't mind there being more songs like this if their use was more discrete like this.

Problem now Mr G, is that we have way too much trumpet and ruddy Saxophone instead.....Grrrrrrr
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Post by: dmg on November 17, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
Great track! I like the pipe songs more than the Jazzy trumpet songs.

The folkies are used sensitively on their tracks in this album I feel; not as dominant as they usually are.  This is a good thing I think.  I wouldn't mind there being more songs like this if their use was more discrete like this.

Problem now Mr G, is that we have way too much trumpet and ruddy Saxophone instead.....Grrrrrrr

I'm quite enjoying that for now.  Of course, the enjoyment would wear off if I had been listening to it on Mark's albums for as long as I've heard the folkies.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 17, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
 Love the Trumpet, especially the solo on Heavy up. Also Sax on Nobody Does That is finally that what Nigel is obviously capable of doing.. really great ..

LE
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 18, 2018, 05:35:17 PM
His singing on this one is very good. Very nice. 

LE
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Post by: pamplina on November 19, 2018, 12:59:32 AM
Did you noticed that the official lyrics are wrong for this song:
Quote
I don’t know why I stopped the lads
From going for his throat
Every hand did curse the day
He signed up for the trip
And every hand did know
This was no way to run a ship
Mark actually sings:
Quote
I don’t know why I stopped the *hands*
From going for his throat
Every *man* did curse the day
He signed up for the trip
And every *man* did know
This was no way to run a ship
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Post by: shangri la 1 on November 19, 2018, 02:30:45 AM
Did you noticed that the official lyrics are wrong for this song:
Quote
I don’t know why I stopped the lads
From going for his throat
Every hand did curse the day
He signed up for the trip
And every hand did know
This was no way to run a ship
Mark actually sings:
Quote
I don’t know why I stopped the *hands*
From going for his throat
Every *man* did curse the day
He signed up for the trip
And every *man* did know
This was no way to run a ship

 :wave :thumbsup Cheers pamplina! Corrected.
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Post by: Love Expresso on November 19, 2018, 01:08:19 PM
I think it was Robson asking if any of the new songs could be based on novels. I thought that a very interesting question as we know MK often transforms material that he has read into songs.

However, there are already so many explanations about most of the songs without any hints to books that this one, Sky And Water, seems to me the most possible one with a literary source.

I was researching a lot about this one already.
What we have is a mutiny because of a tyrannical captain on a brig and the Captain who was not murdered by the "hands" but sent away in one of his own boats. The narrator has been lashed and knows that he will do the "hempen jig" which means hanging for mutiny, when coming home. So he and the other mutineers on the brig hope to find land to make a new life.

I found no historical mutiny that fits with the details.

The Bounty is the most famous one with many books written about, but it was no Brig and Bligh was not a tyrant.

Captain Hugh Pigot from the Hermione was a Tyrant but was hacked and killed at the mutiny of 1797.

So maybe MK does only make up a "typical" mutiny here, exemplaric, not basing on facts?

Or he re-tells the fictional story of a novel here, maybe another Patrick O'Brian novel or another author?

What strikes me is that the hanging of Mutineers is again brought up here as already in One Song At A Time which we are already discussing.

I must say I would not be too happy with MK just making it up here, but that's just the pedant in me.
The flogging captain was already portrayed in Privateering, so this song could be seen as Privateering part 2 in a way..

Any ideas? Any books/ movies known that fit with the details?

Sorry for the long post.

LE
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Post by: El Macho on November 19, 2018, 10:23:47 PM
A part of the melody reminds me "In The Heartland" from Wag The Dog.
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Post by: Robson on November 19, 2018, 10:56:30 PM
I think it was Robson asking if any of the new songs could be based on novels. I thought that a very interesting question as we know MK often transforms material that he has read into songs.

However, there are already so many explanations about most of the songs without any hints to books that this one, Sky And Water, seems to me the most possible one with a literary source.

I was researching a lot about this one already.
What we have is a mutiny because of a tyrannical captain on a brig and the Captain who was not murdered by the "hands" but sent away in one of his own boats. The narrator has been lashed and knows that he will do the "hempen jig" which means hanging for mutiny, when coming home. So he and the other mutineers on the brig hope to find land to make a new life.

I found no historical mutiny that fits with the details.

The Bounty is the most famous one with many books written about, but it was no Brig and Bligh was not a tyrant.

Captain Hugh Pigot from the Hermione was a Tyrant but was hacked and killed at the mutiny of 1797.

So maybe MK does only make up a "typical" mutiny here, exemplaric, not basing on facts?

Or he re-tells the fictional story of a novel here, maybe another Patrick O'Brian novel or another author?

What strikes me is that the hanging of Mutineers is again brought up here as already in One Song At A Time which we are already discussing.

I must say I would not be too happy with MK just making it up here, but that's just the pedant in me.
The flogging captain was already portrayed in Privateering, so this song could be seen as Privateering part 2 in a way..

Any ideas? Any books/ movies known that fit with the details?

Sorry for the long post.

LE

 :thumbsup I love such a search. Thanks LE :)
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Post by: TommyJ88 on November 20, 2018, 12:00:28 AM
A part of the melody reminds me "In The Heartland" from Wag The Dog.

Same.
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 20, 2018, 09:35:56 AM
Great song/tune and like LE's thinking...
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Post by: dmg on November 20, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Someone on Facebook suggested that perhaps the mutineers he refers to are actually the "fakers" of OSAAT; those in "tribute" bands like Legacy etc.  He is always referring to being on tour as being captain of a little ship...
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Post by: vr46mk on November 20, 2018, 05:55:12 PM
Amazing how the song opinion changes on this album, this one i have liked since beginning but now it's starting to get really good, in my top 5 soon :D

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Post by: dmg on November 20, 2018, 06:20:38 PM
Amazing how the song opinion changes on this album, this one i have liked since beginning but now it's starting to get really good, in my top 5 soon :D

Me too.  Another bonus track better than many others that made the final cut IMHO.  In fact, all three should've been on the album I think.
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Post by: vr46mk on November 20, 2018, 11:15:11 PM
Amazing how the song opinion changes on this album, this one i have liked since beginning but now it's starting to get really good, in my top 5 soon :D

Me too.  Another bonus track better than many others that made the final cut IMHO.  In fact, all three should've been on the album I think.

Agree. Could have replaced BOTDF, NC cow cow  :lol and HU with the bonus songs.
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Post by: jbaent on November 21, 2018, 01:13:26 PM
I love the chorus of "Marks Knopflers" in this song. You can clearly hear that all voices are MK's voices... When I listen to it I could see 5 or 6 Mark Knopflers standing next to each other and singing together, LOL
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Post by: Rail King on November 27, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
What a wonderful song. We're really getting a double album each time now, with the quality of b-sides and regular album tracks totally interchangeable. Which makes me wonder why the company – trying so hard to be strategically smart with deluxe editions etc., as Mark mentioned jokingly in the FAZ interview – doesn't just to release two albums instead of one. Not a double album, but two separate ones. One, say, in 2018, the next one next year. Wouldn't THAT be an opportunity to make some serious money? You'd think that all they ever care about is what is due their end ...  ;)
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Post by: Knopflerfan on November 27, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
I love the chorus of "Marks Knopflers" in this song. You can clearly hear that all voices are MK's voices... When I listen to it I could see 5 or 6 Mark Knopflers standing next to each other and singing together, LOL

Yes indeed, a choir of Knopflers!!!
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Post by: JF on November 27, 2018, 09:37:02 PM
I love the chorus of "Marks Knopflers" in this song. You can clearly hear that all voices are MK's voices... When I listen to it I could see 5 or 6 Mark Knopflers standing next to each other and singing together, LOL

Yes indeed, a choir of Knopflers!!!

I guess he did that several times in the past. I remember he did almost all vocals on KTGC with the exception of Monkey, being by Guy
I think that on the Shangri-la album he also sung all vocals


I like on early bird when he blends high and low vocal on "carry me home"