A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Down The Road Wherever (2018) => Topic started by: JF on October 01, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
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ok before posting my review, here are some explications (as usual, sorry in advance for my bad english) :
I work at french public TV channel.
I am not a journalist, I am a technician.
But during last year I had the chance to write on the site "culturebox" https://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/
and indeed my first article was for tracker release in 2015 : https://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/musique/mark-knopfler-part-en-tournee-avec-tracker-un-albumtranquille-217869
this was admitted by the "chief", but at the end of year, it made some problems with other journalists, so I had to stop writing and publishing
Since last december, I haven't write again yet. And I started my own blog on facebook 2 weeks ago : https://www.facebook.com/TextBlogRNRoll/
Next week I wil be able to write again, but limited : only 2 articles per month, and not what I want, but what the chief says to me.
my next two articles will be about 2 french artists (Miossec and Dominique A) that I don't like that much, but now it's no more a hobby it's a (second) job
So why am I telling you to you ?
Because I am in a very tigh situation, and I must be very carreful about what I do, what I say, etc...
I would love to write about Mark' next album, and I have already ask for, but it's not sure at all
So this morning I wrote to a contact I have at Universal france, and I asked him if he had a link to listen to the album.
He replied and sent it to me at the end of the afternoon.
What should I have done ? saying nothing and listen to the album ? or saying it here on AMIT, and yes I knew it would generate frustrations...
a dilemme...
I chose to share with you my impressions on my first listen, but I can NOT share the link.
I know you are all great devoted fans, but I can't take any risk regrading my situation.
I apologize for this and hope you all understand my decision
so now let's go for music...
I am curently listen to it for the 2nd time, and I will write something, but it takes a little time. be patient...
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:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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You can get in real trouble if you would share it somehow, because of "audio watermarks" or something, but I can't believe somebody actually asking you for the link. People are crazy for sure. With the review though, I don't think you have anything to worry about. It's just a music album ;D
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As I don’t understand english enough to analyze lyrics, I will give my impressions on the musical side only
My link has 14 songs, including drover’s road, so I think that the info on official site is not accurate (regarding the edition with only 13 songs)
My Overall feeling :
- Very Fresh and new
- Very different from tracker
- “modern” sounds
- Not folkish at all
- If I had to make a comparison, I would say it is between STP and Shangri-la
- Lot of guitars
It’s the very first time since Shangri-la that I am “surprised” by a new MK album. Don’t get me wrong, I like all albums, but many were “predictable”, you know : folk songs, ballads, always same melodies, etc…
Here it sounds like…well not like any previous album I may say. It blends many influences from jazz, Americana, funk, lounge, blues, straits sounds…
I remember the first time I heard the STP album with What it is followed by STP. I had a similar impression today : something really new in Mark’s career, and at the same time, you know it’s him !
Ok I will write song per song; Be carefull : SPOILERS !
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You're telling me all the things I want to hear! Keep it coming! ;D
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The peaks of excitement. By the way, thank you, JF. THANKS :clap
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Wow..between stp and SL :P
More more
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Now you got my full attention.
Really peak of excitement.
Pheeew
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How to live until November 16 ? :o
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Do not fall asleep now JF
:lol ;)
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ok goodnight all, I will post the rest tommorow... ah ah ;D :lol
joking of course
I am trying to note all what I hear, so it takes a little time...10 minutes...
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Wow..between stp and SL :P
More more
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Thank very much JF...i like all this excitement!!Our Hero is back!!!! :clap ;D
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How to live until November 16 ? :o
Somehow i have a feeling the album will be leaked before 16 nov.
It’s already out there and it takes only one fool to do it....
I understand JF completely by not doing that!
But i am very curious about what he will have to say :thumbsup :thumbsup
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ok goodnight all, I will post the rest tommorow... ah ah ;D :lol
joking of course
I am trying to note all what I hear, so it takes a little time...10 minutes...
10? :lol
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OK sorry for the delay...
Don’t put too much signification into my words, these are just impressions, with my taste
When I quote a song for “flavor” it’s not exactly the same style of course, just an idea that came to mind when I heard the song
Trapper man
Americana style. Fits well with the album cover; great opener for the album;
intro with beautiful guitar arpeggios. Then a drum break, and right into the song ! heavy rhythm guitar
Female background vocals on the chorus;
Guitar solo; sounds like the LP, but not sure.
"gospel”-style background vocals after the guitar solo
I like it a lot. Typically the song you want to hear while driving
A little Darling pretty flavour, but with a more balanced rhtyhm
Back on the dance floor
Very surprising style. soul/rock I may say
The most “surprising” style for me; I like it
“Modern” sounds
Lots of background vocals
Guitar solo, sounds like LP or pensa
May I say it has a Dire straits/OES album flavor…
Nobody child
Intro on Acoustic guitar with ambient sounds
And then you go into a laid-back song ala JJ Cale/someday
Lead guitar. Sounds like LP
And the most surprising : Mark’s singing on the chorus !
Even higher than “paragayyyyy” ! yes ! at first listen I though tit was a female background vocal, but no it’s Mark
I like it a lot
Just a boy away from home
it starts like Junkie doll with a similar riff and then it changes into soul/blues
And a long slide solo, but not like on tracker. Here it sounds like Ry Cooder ! very nice
I like it
When you leave
trumpet intro that made me think to Miles Davis.
Intimist jazzy song. Piano, acoustic guitar, double bass, and jazzy drums
Pavel I guess there are some jazzy chords here
nice song
Good on you son
Ok, you have a dedicated thread about it ;D
My bacon roll
some crowd sounds at the begining ( a little bit like on St Pepper)
Hard to describe the musical style; balla, but in "modern" style
Some chords you didn’t expect
Guitar solo. LP or strat not sure
Piano licks on the outro
Nobody does that
funky, in the 70’s style
wah rhythm guitar, brass, funky 70’ synth, and lead guitar
it grooves ! kind of “superstition” flavor !
unexpected chord progression at the end of sax solo
guitar solo; sounds like LP but with clean tone
the wah guitar becames crazy at he end, but it’s in the fade out..
I like it a lot
Drover’s road
slow pace. Ambient sounds for intro, with driven Les Paul.
Scottosh/irish flavour ala “before gas and tv” with a recurrent theme in minor
One song at the time
ballad, medium-quick pace.
a little folkish flavor, but with driven lead Les Paul
kind of “border reiver” flavor…but I prefer Border reiver
great chords changes. I like it because it doesn’t sound how you would have expected like many other MK songs
some flutes and fiddle at the end, but not too much, and blended with lead driven Les Paul (unless it’s the pensa ?)
Floating away
slow pace. Flavour ala blood and water/ say too much with beautiful piano. Some Strange sample/synths sounds
Female background vocals on the chorus. Acoustic guitar with chords Pavel should like !
Electric solo on clean sound. Not sure about the guitar; Maybe strat ?
I like it a lot.
Slow learner
Gorgeous piano. Intimist jazzy song with double bass and jazzy drums. Beautiful singing. Discret electric guitar with tremolo (ala Richard, but Mark is credited). superbTrumpet solo. Miles Davis sounds style.
I like it. I think that this style fits very well with Mark’s voice, and maybe his age too.
Heavy up
Strange style : saxo dancing calypso ? weak song for me. A little bit out of the style of the rest of the album. Don’t like it. Strange choice to include it in the regular album, should have been a bonus/B-side imho
Frist a guitar (silvertone ?) solo and then a Trombone solo. Background vocals at the end
The sax riff at the start reminds me of “joe le taxi” (awful French song by Vanessa Paradis !)
Machstick man
Mark alone on guitar. The melody reminds me of “heart of oak”
nice closing for the album
it's a great album for me, and I'm sure that many of you will like it :wave
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Thank you for this review!!
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Thank you, very interesting!
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Thanks very much JF for your review. We are mostly on the same page with all things Knopfler related so I am really excited by your thoughts here. :thumbsup
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It sounds really promising!
Can't wait to hear the Cooderesque styles.
And of course, the slide parts! ;)
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Thanksssssssss 8)
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How much representative you would say the single is for the general sound of the album?
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How much representative you would say the single is for the general sound of the album?
Yes the sound/production is representative, but it's not my fav song
I admit that the 2 times I Iistened to the album, I skipped it because I wanted to hear new stuff
what is also representative is the kind of rhtyhm. ard to describe : syncoed, a little bi "funky" but that's not exactly the right term, groovy I may say...
To me it's a real change regarding previousalbums beacuse rhtyhms were :
1) stratight time ballads (True love, beryl, redbud tree...)
2) waltz 3/4 or 6/8 waltzes (haul away, Basil, secondary waltz)
but you didn't have that kind of groove
I think that this style suits more radio, alittle bit more mainstream, but in the good way
Don't know if I it's clear, but it's hard to find words to describe
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Oh, it's very nice to have a review like that, because you know what to expect. I laughed hard at Joe Le Taxi part, I guess you're talking about "pu-rum" sax part right? A lot of jazz is the greatest thing for me, because it really suits Mark's style and age. More sophisticated music fro a more sophisticated man than a teenager.
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I give up. I have too many questions ::) Thanks JF :)
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Oh, it's very nice to have a review like that, because you know what to expect. I laughed hard at Joe Le Taxi part, I guess you're talking about "pu-rum" sax part right? A lot of jazz is the greatest thing for me, because it really suits Mark's style and age. More sophisticated music fro a more sophisticated man than a teenager.
yes excatly that "pu-rum" part ;D you found the exact word :lol
yes I guess that when a musician gets older, he naturally goes more into jazz. Many musicians did that
Here, Marks sings very "classy", and piano + trumpet sounds very classy old-school jazz. I like it a lot
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Just to let you know : I asked by email to Universal France if I could write something on culturebox, including some snippets (I did that with a french singer last year)
I don't have much hope, but maybe they will accept just for one or two songs...it depends on labels strategy of course
if I have news tomorrow, I will let you know
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Thank you JF!
What songs would MK play live do you think? Or at least would have a chance to make it to the setlist?
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Thank you JF!
What songs would MK play live do you think? Or at least would have a chance to make it to the setlist?
He will open with "pu-rum" sax song, how dare you ask :lol :lol :lol
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This "pu-rum", isn't it on The Bug also?
LE
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This "pu-rum", isn't it on The Bug also?
LE
yes indeed, but less cheesy on the bug.
here I found it sounds crap
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Thank you JF!
What songs would MK play live do you think? Or at least would have a chance to make it to the setlist?
hard to say
would would have bet that he chose Broken Bones insteadt of Beryl for example, or that he chos to not play Redbud tree ?
if it was MY choice, I would bet for tarpper man: it's a great opener for the album, and it would make a great live opener imho
back in the dance floor and just a boy away from home would be great live I think, and it would be awake songs if you get what I mean, less zzzzz... than most of his stuff on recent tours
I think that good on you son would work well live
Nobody does hat and one song at the tiem have the perfect mood and pace for live, but i's just my taste
Heavy up too, but I don't like it very much...
what worries me is how he will reproduce the songs live, because it very much "produced" : many sounds, many instruments, many vocals...
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In Good On You Son sings great. Write more in what is the vocal form. What is the style of singing?
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In Good On You Son sings great. Write more in what is the vocal form. What is the style of singing?
well, apart from tah very surprising chorus in nobody child, the rest is "normal" Mk singing
on intimist jazzy songs, he has almost a"cronner" voice, you know that deep "basso rpofundo", but it's not new, he sings like that since STP, since he stopped smoking
on trapper man, he says some "yes" during first instrumental part, and you hear that he is in good mood, almost "rocking modd" if you knwo what i mean
on other songs there are lot of vocal harmonies. not sure if it's Guy, others singers, or Marks who sings harmonies (like he did on shangri-la and KTGC if memory serves), maybe a mix of all
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Thank you. He wrote a lot of lyrics, words?
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Thank you for the great review. This sounds very promising. I have a feeling a lot of this "new, fresh sound" is very much due to Guy Fletcher.
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Thank you for the great review. This sounds very promising. I have a feeling a lot of this "new, fresh sound" is very much due to Guy Fletcher.
Actually, this sounds very promising really!
But I truly hope that "new and fresh sound" has nothing to do with Guy Fletcher! MK doesn't need him to reach it!
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JF tu es mon hero de la semaine, merci.
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Hi JF,
thinking about past time I remember solo like outro of What it is, or like speedway, In wich song you find the most beautiful solo on the new album and what 'flavour' has? thanksssss :thumbsup :clap :wave
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Thank you, JF, for giving us your impression of the album. I am on holiday at the moment, so it was wonderful to wake up this morning to read such good news! It sounds as though it's just what I have been waiting to hear! November 16th can't come quickly enough! :)
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Thank you very much JF for the review.
Nota: Sorry but I can't let you say that Joe le taxi is an awfull song ... ;)
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ok third listen this morning on bike on the way to work
the travel wasn't long enough for the whole albul though...
some new impressions :
the overall feeling made me think at OES era : guitar sounds, way of singing, keyboard sounds...
lot of pensa-or-LP kind of sounds
Back on the Dance Floor is very strait-ish to my ears. guitar, and pace kind of millionaire blues mood...
I said "crwod sounds" at the start of my bacon roll
in fact it sounds more like reception or party sound, like in a art gallery, or something like that
regarding the song title, could it be about same subject as my parties ?
nobody does that is really cool. very fres and new for MK !
when you leave is wonderful. kind of "a place where we used to live" song, but not in folk-acoustic style, more lounge-jazzy. gorgeous !
sorry for teasing you,
all I can say is that I really like this album
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Thanks a lot JF! Nice to read you review! I'm so excited now to hear the new album! :o :)
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Hi JF,
thinking about past time I remember solo like outro of What it is, or like speedway, In wich song you find the most beautiful solo on the new album and what 'flavour' has? thanksssss :thumbsup :clap :wave
I wouldn't say that a particular solo strucked me
I like very much back on the dance floor outro, and slid solo on Just a boy away from home
Trapper man is very good too
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It sounds really promising!
Can't wait to hear the Cooderesque styles.
And of course, the slide parts! ;)
the slide part on Just a boy away from home is the 64 strat I think
but the sound is warmer as on tracker. it was too much thin for my taste
here it sound more "round and warm" I may say
and he plays some cool licks, alternating fingers and slide
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what I like si that the album is very well balanced.
it has dynamics : driving songs, intimist songs, slow paces, fast paces
on tracker, musicside sometimes you feel listen to the same song : same key, same pace, same sounds
on this album, each song sounds different from the precedent
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what I like si that the album is very well balanced.
it has dynamics : dring songs, intimist songs, slow paces, fast paces
on tracker, musicside soemtimes you feel listent to the same song : same key, same pace, same sounds
on this album, each song sounds different from the precedent
That really sounds promising! It seems you are really impressed!
LE
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what I like si that the album is very well balanced.
it has dynamics : dring songs, intimist songs, slow paces, fast paces
on tracker, musicside soemtimes you feel listent to the same song : same key, same pace, same sounds
on this album, each song sounds different from the precedent
That really sounds promising! It seems you are really impressed!
LE
yes.
I like past albums, but I must admit that since KTGC, I havent' have any "surprise"
you know that feeling : songs are nice, but all melodies, chords, sounds etc.. are exactly what you expected, the comfort zone...
for the first time since a long time, I heard some melodies, chord changes and sounds that I didn't expect from MK ...
don't expect a revolutionnary album though ! all is relative...
but in MK's world it sounds "new and fresh", at least to my ears and my taste
I hope I won't make to much expectation for you all. these are just MY impressions, and we all have different tastes, so maybe it won't have the same impact on all people
I was thinking yesterday : If he chose to change things, to sound "fresh and new", maybe he will do the same on tour ? I mean regarding setlists..... :P ;)
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Plus you "only" had access to the standard edition. There are five (?) other songs to explore... Just imagine what gems we had among so-called bonus or b-side songs. Really optimistic now. We all should be aware what we could expect from him. And what not.
LE
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....thanks for all JF another question
wich song in your mind add in list like this
Rudiger-Sailing-Devil-515am-GetL-Taormina
:wave
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....thanks for all JF another question
wich song in your mind add in list like this
Rudiger-Sailing-Devil-515am-GetL-Taormina
:wave
I would add : Nobody child. I like this song a lot. Ambient sounds, slow pace, lead guitar, laid back / dark mood...and THAT singing phrase
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....thanks for all JF another question
wich song in your mind add in list like this
Rudiger-Sailing-Devil-515am-GetL-Taormina
:wave
:thumbsup :thumbsup
I would add : Nobody child. I like this song a lot. Ambient sounds, slow pace, lead guitar, laid back / dark mood...and THAT singing phrase
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Thank you very much for sharing your impressions!
When you say Pensa, which Pensa sound do you mean? I know what to expect with the Les Paul, but Pensa for me is either something like the tone in Laughs and jokes/kingdom of gold or like the pensa during DS days :)
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"Drover’s road
slow pace. Ambient sounds for intro, with driven Les Paul.
Scottosh/irish flavour ala “before gas and tv” with a recurrent theme in minor"
Wow. I know Before Gas & TV is not too popular but I love it. To me, your description sounds really mouth watering even if it seems it's not that good for you.
LE
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JF I better not pester you any longer and should give you a break, but one last thing .. when you mention "ambient sounds" occasionally, what exactly do you mean by it? Would the intro of Long Cool Girl be a good example, are those "real" sounds? Or..? Help appreciated, anybody?
LE
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JF I better not pester you any longer and should give you a break, but one last thing .. when you mention "ambient sounds" occasionally, what exactly do you mean by it? Would the intro of Long Cool Girl be a good example, are those "real" sounds? Or..? Help appreciated, anybody?
LE
no not like on long cool girl intro.
"ambient" is not the good word. I mean a "new age" flavour, synths-electronic sounds. In french we say "nappes de synthés"
It doesn't sound really organ, more synth but in a good way.
I say "ambien"t because it gives you an "ambiance" picture. sorry for my poor english
an example would be synths on local hero. you know that sounds that immediately makes you thinking to landscape
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Oh ok. Now I understand. Thank you very much for explaining, now it's clear.
LE
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It sounds really promising!
Can't wait to hear the Cooderesque styles.
And of course, the slide parts! ;)
the slide part on Just a boy away from home is the 64 strat I think
but the sound is warmer as on tracker. it was too much thin for my taste
here it sound more "round and warm" I may say
and he plays some cool licks, alternating fingers and slide
Excellent. His sound has been too thin for a while now IMO. Let's hope it continues into the tour. New amps probably? :think
Coincidently I was watching KC Moan last night from an old NHB concert and saw him alternating fingers and slide on that one from '98!
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Reading about it being groovy and rhythmic it struck me that " Back on the Dancefloor" would have been a good album title also ;D
LE
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Reading about it being groovy and rhythmic it struck me that " Back on the Dancefloor" would have been a good album title also ;D
LE
For Michael Jackson? ;D
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It sounds really promising!
Can't wait to hear the Cooderesque styles.
And of course, the slide parts! ;)
the slide part on Just a boy away from home is the 64 strat I think
but the sound is warmer as on tracker. it was too much thin for my taste
here it sound more "round and warm" I may say
and he plays some cool licks, alternating fingers and slide
According to the informatio we already have, that slide part is the song "You'll never walk alone" written by Rodgers and Hamerstein that is sung by Liverpool crowd every game before it starts.
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Getting really excited about this album. I more or less like all Mark's solo albums, but apart from a song here or there, I haven't quite felt excited about his music in a long time. Goes to show that age doesn't have to mean a thing. The man is now getting close to 70, and he is making an album that is more fun and experiential than he did five or ten years ago. Great!
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Do we hear You'll never walk alone in Just a boy away from home?
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Do we hear You'll never walk alone in Just a boy away from home?
No, we don't. At least until we are able to get a copy of it and listen it.
JF heard it, but looks like he didn't recognized it.
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No no. I asked if this piece is in Just a boy away from home.
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No no. I asked if this piece is in Just a boy away from home.
yes
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Quite ballsy to do an YNWA piece when The Magpies plays Going Home at every game. ;D
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No no. I asked if this piece is in Just a boy away from home.
yes
Thanks:) I have to write it again: my imagination working overtime...
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No no. I asked if this piece is in Just a boy away from home.
There is further inspiration from close to home in “Just A Boy Away From Home,” which rose from a memory back home in Newcastle, when his father was in hospital after a heart attack.
“He was in Newcastle General, which as anyone from the Northeast of England will know is very close to the football ground. He was lying awake in the middle of the night feeling a bit sorry for himself, and he heard a lad walking on the deserted street outside singing ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ Of course, he was a Liverpool fan and he’d been to the match—or who knows, he might have missed it somehow. But there he was in Newcastle singing his song. My dad found it inspiring, the spirit of it.” The track includes a full, stirring reprise of the famous melody. “It just felt good to play it on the slide,” says Mark. “I thought, ‘I’ve started, so I may as well finish.’ And it’s fun for the band to play.”
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Thank you for the great review. This sounds very promising. I have a feeling a lot of this "new, fresh sound" is very much due to Guy Fletcher.
Actually, this sounds very promising really!
But I truly hope that "new and fresh sound" has nothing to do with Guy Fletcher! MK doesn't need him to reach it!
I fear it will have a lot to do with GF. Good on You Son definitely does. Still, it's Mark Knopfler, so great songwriting and playing is guaranteed, and I'll learn to ignore the sounds I don't like.
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No no. I asked if this piece is in Just a boy away from home.
There is further inspiration from close to home in “Just A Boy Away From Home,” which rose from a memory back home in Newcastle, when his father was in hospital after a heart attack.
“He was in Newcastle General, which as anyone from the Northeast of England will know is very close to the football ground. He was lying awake in the middle of the night feeling a bit sorry for himself, and he heard a lad walking on the deserted street outside singing ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ Of course, he was a Liverpool fan and he’d been to the match—or who knows, he might have missed it somehow. But there he was in Newcastle singing his song. My dad found it inspiring, the spirit of it.” The track includes a full, stirring reprise of the famous melody. “It just felt good to play it on the slide,” says Mark. “I thought, ‘I’ve started, so I may as well finish.’ And it’s fun for the band to play.”
Yes, but I'm curious how it sounds in Just A Boy Away From Home. Is it a long fragment, etc. Ok. We wait until November 16
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what I like si that the album is very well balanced.
it has dynamics : dring songs, intimist songs, slow paces, fast paces
on tracker, musicside soemtimes you feel listent to the same song : same key, same pace, same sounds
on this album, each song sounds different from the precedent
That really sounds promising! It seems you are really impressed!
LE
yes.
I like past albums, but I must admit that since KTGC, I havent' have any "surprise"
you know that feeling : songs are nice, but all melodies, chords, sounds etc.. are exactly what you expected, the comfort zone...
for the first time since a long time, I heard some melodies, chord changes and sounds that I didn't expect from MK ...
don't expect a revolutionnary album though ! all is relative...
but in MK's world it sounds "new and fresh", at least to my ears and my taste
I hope I won't make to much expectation for you all. these are just MY impressions, and we all have different tastes, so maybe it won't have the same impact on all people
I was thinking yesterday : If he chose to change things, to sound "fresh and new", maybe he will do the same on tour ? I mean regarding setlists..... :P ;)
I actually thought that Tracker had quite a bit of diversity (there's practically no musical intersection between songs like Mighty Man, Beryl and Silver Eagle), and I thought it was quite different sonically from Privateering (not always in a good way). I think the sameness of his solo albums after Shangri-La has a lot to do with the repeated use of one and the same studio. I'm sure this is very practical for him, and he's been very prolific ever since he built it, so I'm not complaining. But changing recording environments (let alone: producers!) would certainly have a huge effect on how his records sound. Not gonna happen, though, I guess, at least not the studio part. My hopes for the future lie on the production side of things.
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hey you're right ! I didn't recognized you'll never walk alone !
the only version of this song I know is the on at the end of Floyd's Fearless
I am listening to Mark's song right now, and I don't recognize it either...
oh wait I searched Youtube and found this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV5_LQArLa0
yes maybe the outro is on the same chord progression. but Mark's song is in straight time, not in 3/4 like the original song
maybe if you know very well the original you will recognize, but I didn't
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I like this version the best ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bovhMnyQkbw
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Did Universal allowed you to share snippets? That little part where MK plays "You'll never walk alone" would be something worth to listen to...
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JF which MK album is your favorite? And is the new album high on your list?
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Did Universal allowed you to share snippets? That little part where MK plays "You'll never walk alone" would be something worth to listen to...
I was going to post since I received an email just 10 minutes ago, and he said no for the moment, but he will inform me when news will come along
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JF which MK album is your favorite? And is the new album high on your list?
my favorite album is STP. I also like Get lucky and Shangri-la a lot
as for the new album, for now he is in the "new" category for me. you know, when a new album is just released and you listen to it many times just because it's new stuff
so of course it's high in my list for now, because it is new. I don't know yet how I will rate it in several months.
for now I am really excited, but maybe in a couple of months, when we will have listen to it a billion times, it will calm down...
What I want to say is that I was really really surprised in ggod way yesterday, but also because I wasn't expected anything
I don't put any expectations in Mark's music since KTGC, so when a new album comes out, I am not disapointed, but not atonisnehd either. It's just last MK album you know, and that's all
So that's why this new album, I am very enthusiastic.
BUT if you expect way too much, maybe you will be disapointed, so don't misunderstand me it's not the album of the century ;D
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:thumbsup I understand. Thank you for your answer :)
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JF, are there songs like What A Wonderful World (inChris Botti's album) ?
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JF, are there songs like What A Wonderful World (inChris Botti's album) ?
yes I would say that "when you leave" and "slow learner" sounds like "what a wonderful world" : typical lounge-jazzy mood. Piano, double bass, jazzy drums ("balais" en français, je ne trouve pas le mot anglais), trumpet, "croonerish" voice, .....and complicated chords for Pavel ;) ;D
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JF, how about guitarsolos? Is it filled with more guitarsolo's then the previous albums? And is there an amazing solo on it like for example the solo in BIA or TOL?
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JF, how about guitarsolos? Is it filled with more guitarsolo's then the previous albums? And is there an amazing solo on it like for example the solo in BIA or TOL?
I'd say that there are lot of lead guitars, but not necessarily a stunning solo, at least not one that strucked me particulary
But there are lead guitar parts on almost all songs
Trapper has solos, but it is rather a theme played several times. very nice, I love it. kind of Draling pretty but faster
Back on dance floor has a typical OES-era style solo. Not sure if it is the LP or the pensa.kind of millionire blues / when it comes to yo style but faster. I'd say it's the most iconic lead guitar on the album. love it too
Nobody Child is more in the behind with the rent / Bluebird style
Just a boy away from home : I love the outro on slide, very melodic, even if I didn't recognize you'll never walk alone !
My bacon roll : clean tone similar to sucker row for example
Nobody does that : clean bluesy tone; very cool.
Drover's raod : saturated LP tone; same theme repeated ala before gas and TV
One song at the time : made me think to Border reiver. and kind of shot at glory flavour. same theme repeated, doubled by pipes/flutes
Floating away. I like it a lot. laid back style. clean tone; it reminds me of blood and water. some jazzy and bluesy licks
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Thanks so much JF.
No doubt you are getting inundated with PMs asking you to pleeeaaasse share the link, won't share etc etc
Anyone doing thaf , please don't, we don't want JF to get in trouble.
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Thanks so much JF.
No doubt you are getting inundated with PMs asking you to pleeeaaasse share the link, won't share etc etc
Anyone doing thaf , please don't, we don't want JF to get in trouble.
thanks Dusty
yes I feel a little bit uncomfortable with this situation. It's the very first time I am able to listen to Mark's album so early.
I tried to answer all your messages (apologize for those I forgot), and I said no to all, I don't want to be unfair. I am sure you all understand.
I hope that public snippets will be soon avalaible (Amazon ?) for you all
As Macca said once : "you know, it's just songs after all"...
as soon as Universal gives me the go, I will try to convince my chief to publish something, I harass him all day since yesterday ;D
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It's really awesome that you keep the good spirit and answer our questions the whole day - and even apologize! NO need for that, we have to be utterly thankful to you for keeping us informed so detailed.
LE
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Yes, thanks for sharing your thoughts and patience answering all questions, JF, much appreciated. You really whetted my appetite!
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the good spirit is from AMIT, LE :)
I am sure that all people here are very nice and trustable people. No doubt in that, I always felt a very friendly community on this forum :wave
and I understand that many aksed me. It's natural. :)
I also understand that it can make frustration. I just try to describe what I heard
I hope you won't be disapointed though. My tastes are not necessarily the same as yours all. So try to not keep too much expectations just from what I say. :)
It's a pleasure for me to answer questions :)
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Hi JF. I'm new in this wonderful forum and, of course, your review on the album intrigued me and pushed me to bring a question. I noticed that you were very impressed by Back On The Dance Floor: in your opinion, was the right choice of God On You Son as the first single or you preferred some other song, such as the same Back On The Dance Floor?
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I hope you won't be disapointed though. My tastes are not necessarily the same as yours all. So try to not keep too much expectations just from what I say. :)
I am not worried about it at all. New MK music is ALWAYS a thrill to me. They say "don't judge the book by its cover" but I have to say I love this album cover, no matter how generic it might be. I hope it promises an exciting journey and from your first impressions it sounds like it will. Can't wait.
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Hi JF. I'm new in this wonderful forum and, of course, your review on the album intrigued me and pushed me to bring a question. I noticed that you were very impressed by Back On The Dance Floor: in your opinion, was the right choice of God On You Son as the first single or you preferred some other song, such as the same Back On The Dance Floor?
for MY taste, I would have chose Trapper man or Back on the dance floor instead of Good on you son
I admit that I didn't listen to Good on you son since several days. too much listened last week, and of course since yesterday I focus on new stuff
I think that back on the dance floor would have been a very good single and attractive for DS fans. the sound would fit "pop-rock radio" if you see what I mean. Trapper would also have been a good single, but is more americana style.
Good on you son is indeed Early Bird #2 like many people said, and is less "surprising" (in term of music) than these two first songs. These 2 songs are really really good and are very great openers for the album. I don't understand why they don't have been chosen as a single. Maybe second single ?
It's a little bit like if Baloney again or silvertown blues had been chosen as first single for STP album. Really good songs, but of course WII was the obvious choice....oh wait..Ed was still in the cockpit at the time, right ? ;D ;)
joke apart, most of the time, the first single has (almost) always been the first song of the album (maybe some exceptions : Boom like that and Beryl, and get lucky ? and this is us ?)
Again, I do insist that all these impressions are of course subjective and based on MY taste, so...
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It is obvious that they are personal tastes but as a good old fan of the DS you are, it is clear that TM and BOTDF would have been more radio-friendly.
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"Floating away. I like it a lot. laid back style. clean tone; it reminds me of blood and water. some jazzy and bluesy licks"
JF - this is great news! I have always loved B & W and think that a live version with MK extended solo would be amazing !
I hope he plays Floating Away, based just on your description! Thanks :wave
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"Floating away. I like it a lot. laid back style. clean tone; it reminds me of blood and water. some jazzy and bluesy licks"
JF - this is great news! I have always loved B & W and think that a live version with MK extended solo would be amazing !
I hope he plays Floating Away, based just on your description! Thanks :wave
I love B&W too. But I won't expect too much for a live rendition of this kind of tune...I hope I'm wrong
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I was listening "One song at the time" this morning, and I picked up for the first time the lyric line "Down The Road Wherever". it's at the end of the chorus
didn't pay attention to it before, because I was more focused on the music
also "slow learner" is very much about Mark himself : "I am a slow learner, I do things slow, it's m y way... " makes much sense after more than 3 years since the last album !
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Thank you JF so much for your review and thoughts about the new record!
Please ignore all the requests about sending the link.
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also "slow learner" is very much about Mark himself : "I am a slow learner, I do things slow, it's m y way... " makes much sense after more than 3 years since the last album !
He always said he learns guitar slowly and he still has to learn especially from Chet Atkins . (Hasn't he got a letter from him he never opened, or something like that ?)
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also "slow learner" is very much about Mark himself : "I am a slow learner, I do things slow, it's m y way... " makes much sense after more than 3 years since the last album !
He always said he learns guitar slowly and he still has to learn especially from Chet Atkins . (Hasn't he got a letter from him he never opened, or something like that ?)
John Knowles, friend Chet gave MK. Mark also received a book with chords. The first chord of the song Sands of Nevada comes from Knowles.
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JF I think I have the last question :) Which song touched you the most?
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JF I think I have the last question :) Which song touched you the most?
"when you leave".
even if I didn't understand all words, I think it's of course about leaving someone or somewhere
and I love this kind of slow jazzy mood. I listen to it when I come home on bike at night, alongside the river in my town, with city lights. very much moving
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JF I think I have the last question :) Which song touched you the most?
"when you leave".
even if I didn't understand all words, I think it's of course about leaving someone or somewhere
and I love this kind of slow jazzy mood. I listen to it when I come home on bike at night, alongside the river in my town, with city lights. very much moving
Thanks. I can't wait:)
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I'm kidding, I still have questions :) Americana, some style from the last DS album, folk, soul, blues, jazz ... I thought that the song One Song At A Time will be in the country style because Chet Atkins ... I understand that the country style is not on the new album?
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I'm kidding, I still have questions :) Americana, some style from the last DS album, folk, soul, blues, jazz ... I thought that the song One Song At A Time will be in the country style because Chet Atkins ... I understand that the country style is not on the new album?
it depends on what you mean by "country" :)
One song at a time could be called "country", but to me it's more an irish-scottish-folkish ballad ala Border reiver. at the end : fiddle and flutes along the lead guitar
sa for trapper man I said Americana, but I could have said "country" too. but "country-rock" ala Darling Pretty, not country in the red stagerwing style
there are not country-style songs ala are we in trouble now
if memory serve I didn't heard any pedal steel guitar
but remember there are still bonus songs, so maybe other styles...
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I'm kidding, I still have questions :) Americana, some style from the last DS album, folk, soul, blues, jazz ... I thought that the song One Song At A Time will be in the country style because Chet Atkins ... I understand that the country style is not on the new album?
it depends on what you mean by "country" :)
One song at a time could be called "country", but to me it's more an irish-scottish-folkish ballad ala Border reiver. at the end : fiddle and flutes along the lead guitar
sa for trapper man I said Americana, but I could have said "country" too. but "country-rock" ala Darling Pretty, not country in the red stagerwing style
there are not country-style songs ala are we in trouble now
if memory serve I didn't heard any pedal steel guitar
but remember there are still bonus songs, so maybe other styles...
Yes, it's true, there is no pedal steel guitar. There is no Paul Franklin. I really like country made in MK :) Country rock style When It Comes To You too:)
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Guys, I have the official lyrics sheet, as provided by Universal to journalists. I'm posting the whole thing here, below. Interestingly, there are some mistakes/mispellings in it (for instance, Just a Boy Away from Home is called Just a Boy/You'll Never Walk Alone here ... But anyway, these lyrics certainly are much more reliable than what we try to denote while listening.
As expected and as usual with Mark, we're getting some great lyrics with this new album:
Trapper Man
The trapper man’s in from the hinterlands
Filth and grease on his clothes and hands
From the outermost, the farthermost
Comes riding in to the trading post
Got a pack horse loaded up with hides
Steps in to see the man inside
‘I got furs, skins, a little meat too
Here, I got a good piece just for you'
'You take this home to give the wife’
The trapper draws his skinning knife
Now the fat man's desk is a butcher's block
The trapper cuts the meat and talks
‘You’re gonna lose your shirt on a nowhere man
Lose your shirt in nowhere land
Back out there is my country
And you best let this trapper be the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man
If you don't want to be where lightning strikes
Better let me work the way I like
You don't want to know how I fill my sacks
You go out there you don't come back
You got nature red in tooth and claw
And you ain't got no rule of law
And if you don't know nature's way
All that's gonna stop you being the prey is the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man
You wanna wear them gems and rings
You wanna show off them shiny things
Shake your money maker, bro
Where the movers and the shakers go
You wanna go do what you do
Let the gold and silver come to you
I need you but you need me
So you best let this trapper be the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man
When he's done his thing and gone his way
The fat men light cigars and say
“Holy smokes did you see that?
We all made money on the trapper cat”
Sit back in their big ass chairs
Say, “Boys, that is the man right there”
I’m the lifeline for your big soft ass
It’s the trapper puts it in first class, the trapper
You need the trapper man
The trapper man
Back On The Dance Floor
Hand me down my high roller Stetson
Hand me down my smokeless .41
We’re gonna look so sharp when we walk in
They’re gonna be jazzed we come
We’re going for the major comeback
For the motherlode, the mighty score
We’ll be the toast of every knocked out boogie shack
Now we’re back on the dancefloor
Going all the way is the only way to go
The only game in town
Shake your moneymaker closer to the floor
Shake ‘em on down, shake ‘em on down
Hand me down my two-tone wingtips
Hand me down my skull head walking cane
You all gotta wear them shantung gambler suits
They’re gonna be jazzed we came
We’re going for the major comeback
For the motherlode, the mighty score
We’ll be the toast of every knocked out boogie shack
Now we’re back on the dancefloor
Going all the way is the only way to go
The only game in town
Shake your moneymaker closer to the floor
Shake ‘em on down, shake ‘em on down
We’re going for the major comeback
For the motherlode, the mighty score
We’ll be the toast of every knocked out boogie shack
Now we’re back on the dancefloor
Back On The Dance Floor
Hand me down my high roller Stetson
Hand me down my smokeless .41
We’re gonna look so sharp when we walk in
They’re gonna be jazzed we come
We’re going for the major comeback
For the motherlode, the mighty score
We’ll be the toast of every knocked out boogie shack
Now we’re back on the dancefloor
Going all the way is the only way to go
The only game in town
Shake your moneymaker closer to the floor
Shake ‘em on down, shake ‘em on down
Hand me down my two-tone wingtips
Hand me down my skull head walking cane
You all gotta wear them shantung gambler suits
They’re gonna be jazzed we came
We’re going for the major comeback
For the motherlode, the mighty score
We’ll be the toast of every knocked out boogie shack
Now we’re back on the dancefloor
Going all the way is the only way to go
The only game in town
Shake your moneymaker closer to the floor
Shake ‘em on down, shake ‘em on down
We’re going for the major comeback
For the motherlode, the mighty score
We’ll be the toast of every knocked out boogie shack
Now we’re back on the dancefloor
Nobody’s Child
The ragged kid nobody wanted
Left alone to ramble wild
Long ago he was abandoned
Nobody’s child
Never smiles and never chatters
Never quarrels or complains
Grown as hard as the Sierras
And the Western Plains
Come a'cow cow yicky yicky yea
A'come a'cow cow yicky yicky yea
Learned to swing a broken bottle
Learned to use his fists and knife
In the bar rooms and bordellos
Of his life
He drifted down towards the borders
The sky was dark but it did not rain
Came the meanest pistoleros
In the Western Plains
He fell in with these desperadoes
Thieves and killers every one
Prizes hanging from their saddles
With their guns
Come a'cow cow yicky yicky yea
A'come a'cow cow yicky yicky yea
The ragged kid nobody wanted
Left alone to ramble wild
Now he rides beside the Devil
Nobody’s child
Come a'cow cow yicky yicky yea
A'come a'cow cow yicky yicky yea
Just A Boy / You’ll Never Walk Alone
When I was just a boy I’d be kicking a tin
Take the short cut home through the loony bin
I never gave much thought to the souls in there
I was just a boy, too young to care
Well the years go by and you get to see
A dream’s not the same as reality
Well a dream or two is going to crash and burn
And that’s the way that you live and learn
Well it was late one night and I woke at two
And I lay there thinking the way you do
But it’s a long dark night of the soul
When those thoughts are turning sad and old
And then outside on the empty street
I heard the sound of walking feet
Well it was just a boy away from home
And he was singing the song ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’
When You Leave
When you leave
There’s cordite in the air
A ringing in the stillness
Smoke drifting up the stair
When you leave
When you leave
My heart sounds in my ears
A beating in the darkness
A trace of you still here
When you leave
When you leave
Like it or not
How could I not have fallen for you?
And now that I’m caught
How could I not be blue?
When you leave
I’ll hear the smallest sound
And turn to look behind me
As though you’re still around
When you leave
When you leave
Good On You Son
Flash goes a little hummingbird
A darting, whirring thread
At the screen door by his lemon tree
Out here with the quick and the dead
Designer blinds above L.A.
Frame the perfect view
It’s going to be another day
Of sun and shameless blue
By his cutting block the time has come
For the fruit there by the juicer
He’s grinds fresh coffee for himself
He’s meeting a producer
The L.A.Times lies on the stone
Warming there like bread
Hey, what’s not to like out here
With the quick and the dead?
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two, yeah
Well, you want to know what happiness is?
In his eye there's a hunter’s gleam
Something to look forward to
This cat's gonna get the cream
The skin of a mango is so smooth
Smoother than the devil
Cut it, slice it, chop it up
To the rhythm of a Cockney rebel
Back in Blighty there’s a flat
On a grimy sink estate
That's why he walked out of that
And went to the Golden State
Left the baccy and the beer
Where he was born and bred
Now he’s cutting it out here
With the quick and the dead
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
What would you’d have had him do?
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Yeah good on you son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two
Good on you, son, good on you
Uh-huh, oh yeah
Good on you, son, good on you
The Camden Shuffle and the old one-two, yeah
My Bacon Roll
I never got the elbow
Just telling you
Before you go
Only telling you
Just so you know
I never got the elbow
I slung it in
Had it up to here
I just pulled the pin
Went and had a beer
I used to love a bit of folding
Just for getting by
A wad of cash
Now that’s out of date
And so am I
As pie and mash
S’cuse me, s’cuse me
Have you got my roll?
My roll? My bacon roll?
The time they took us bowling
What was that about?
I thought what a joke
I just went out
And had a smoke
Then the white water rafting
Just some know-it-all
With the new regime
There to show us all
How to build a team
He says what do you think we’re doing?
I said don’t ask me
I’ve no idea
They all laughed at that
That was pretty funny actually
S’cuse me, s’cuse me
Have you got my roll?
My roll? My bacon roll?
Have you got my roll?
My roll? My bacon roll?
I could order you a toastie
Just like that one there
Or the same in plain white bread
When you’re dealing with a toastie
What do you prefer
Brown or red?
I never got the elbow
Just telling you
Before you go
Only telling you
Just so you know
Nobody Does That
I like the way you put yourself together
Nobody does that quite the way you do
I like the way you put yourself together
Nobody does that quite like you
Nobody does that
Nobody does that
Nobody does that
I like the way you’re holding my attention
Nobody does that quite the way you do
That stuff too hot for me to mention
Nobody does that quite like you
Nobody does that
Nobody does that
I like the way you work the opposition
Nobody does that quite the way you do
When you want to smoke the competition
Nobody does that quite like you
Nobody does that
Nobody does that
Nobody does that
I like the way you put yourself together
Nobody does that quite the way you do
I like the way you put yourself together
Nobody does that quite like you
Nobody does that
Nobody does that
Nobody does that
Drovers’ Road
It’s a drover’s road
High up where ravens fly
And soon I'll lose my way
And I won’t know
It’s a drover’s road
From days so long gone by
When we knew who we were
And where to go
It’s a drover’s road
It winds a hundred miles
You'd sleep out in the open
Calm and still
You could trust a friend
To keep a watch awhile
Your cattle grazing
Quiet on the hill
Walk with me
And you can leave that old dog be
He does much better on his own
Leave him be
He’s a better man than me
He likes to find his own way home
On a drover’s road
With the moon and misty stars
We walked these hills
Before this all began
Before we gazed at screens
Went shopping in our cars
And a million houses
Sprawled across the land
Walk with me
And you can leave that old dog be
He does much better on his own
Leave him be
He’s a better man than me
He likes to find his own way home
One Song At A Time
My whistle under the archways
Still echoes down the street
All the way back to Deptford days
Nights down by The Creek
Notes as big as river boats
Still echoing through the clubs
With the horns of the trains
Down the old back lanes
And the lights of the corner pubs
In a taproom lined with mirrors
There's a man there at the bar
Reminds you of somebody
He says I know who you are
He’s right, I know I could be him
But anyway who is who?
You could be looking at
What he’s looking at
And he’s looking at you
And I’ll be out of this place
And down the road wherever
There but for the grace, etcetera
I’ll see you later but it’s 1979
And I’m picking my way out of here
One song at a time
The slaving ports of plunder
Used to stink to heaven on high
Companions of honour
Always were in short supply
The Bristol ships and Liverpool's
On every tide they came
The times they may have changed, my friend
Some people stay the same
And I’ll be out of this place
And down the road wherever
There but for the grace, etcetera
I'll see you later but it's 1879
And I'm picking my way out of here
One song at a time
A grinning mogul greets the crowd
At Execution Dock
All come to see three mutineers
Turned off at twelve o’clock
The shyster takes a ringside seat
As they’re bringing them from the jail
And twenty thousand tickets
Sold online on premium sale
So if you need to reach me
You can leave word at The Pig
I have no wish to stay around
To watch that Newgate jig
Or any more poor old fakers
Trying to dance in my old shoes
I’ll be gone over the ocean
With the transatlantic blues
And I’ll be out of this place
And down the road wherever
There but for the grace, etcetera
I’ll see you later somewhere down the line
I’ll be picking my way out of here
One song at a time
Floating Away
It’s the weight I’m trying
To get inside the frame
I’ve been painting a fat man
He’s big and fat and heavy
As a man can be
But he’s been floating away, floating away
He’s been floating away from me
In the mirror my withering skin
Is a thorny pleasure
I stand unflinching
And I mark each crease and sting
My brush my wooden flail
My ancient thresher
As unforgiving time flays everything
It’s the truth I’m trying
To get inside the frame
Now I’m painting myself naked
But I need a pair of boots
About as heavy as boots can be
Or I’d be floating away, floating away
I’d be floating away from me
And every thorn sends thistledown
Drifting all around
And floating away, floating away
Floating away from me
Slow Learner
People say ‘Where have you been?’
Or ‘Where did you go?’
I’m a slow learner
I do everything slow
It’s my way, has to be true
The world goes by me fast
But where you’re concerned
I like good things to last
Where’s the point in worrying
If we should start a little late
Where’s the point in hurrying
When waiting feels so great?
I’m a slow burner
My last train left a while ago
I’m a slow learner
I do everything slow
So where’s the point in worrying
If we should start a little late
And where’s the point in hurrying
When waiting feels so great?
I’m a slow burner
My last train left a while ago
I’m a slow learner
I do everything slow
Yeah, I’m a slow burner
My last train left a while ago
I’m a slow learner
I do everything slow
Heavy Up
Your slack-jawed dimness is our loss
Condemns us to your point of view
Who could give a flying toss
What you like to chill out to?
And why should I lighten up for you
If you can't heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?
You grunt and root your patch of earth
Adrift from shame and deaf to sound
How much is your praise really worth?
About the same as your thumbs down
And why should I lighten up for you
If you can't heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?
So heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me
What would it take
To get you to shut it?
I’d so love it
And why should I lighten up for you
If you can't heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?
So heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me
You won’t of course, you will be heard
Ah, but at least a man can dream
I’m afraid, alas, the turd
Who thinks he’s an ice cream
And why should I lighten up for you
If you can't heavy up for me?
Why should I? Why should I?
So heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me
Yeah, heavy up, heavy up for me
Heavy up, heavy up for me
You can give it up
Give it up with me
Or heavy up, heavy up for me
Matchstick Man
So there he was then, Penzance to play
Christmas Eve in a nowhere band
Now early morning Christmas Day
He’s hitching home to Geordieland
Last night the snow came, just my luck
And who the hell do you think you are
Climbing up into that truck
With your old bag and your guitar
And you, you would-be vagabond
No-one invited you, you know
Matchstick man, up in the dawn
You've got five hundred miles to go
The driver now must drop off his load
The snow still laying thick on the ground
Leaves him on a high crossroads
Where he can see for miles around
The sun is shining, sky is blue
And everything is white and bare
Not a car comes into view
There's nothing moving anywhere
And you, you would-be vagabond
No-one invited you, you know
Matchstick man, you speck upon
These vast and silent plains of snow
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Wow thank you Rail King! Very nice find!
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I realize I should have opened a separate thread for this. Did so now.
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By the way, all the leaked download links I found so far led to this dubious page (below). You can actually download the songs there as a zip file, but it comes password-protected, and if you follow the provided link to get the password, they ask you for your credit card information.
https://zone-telechargement-albums.com/go.php?n=373133
I hope we'll get a proper leak, soon. ;D
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you remember, sometimes we had this kind of discussion :
imagine one of your friends has never heard a MK solo album, he only knows Dire Straits, and he asks you : "hey, I like very much Dire Straits, what MK album would you recommand to listen first ?"
I think there are great probabilty that you will recommend STP first, not KTGC or RPD, right ?
well, I don't want to bring too much expectations, but I think I can say without taking too much risk, that in less than 2 months you will recommend Down the road wherever too...
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well, I don't want to bring too much expectations
Failed! :lol
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;D :lol ;D :lol
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you remember, sometimes we had this kind of discussion :
imagine one of your friends has never heard a MK solo album, he only knows Dire Straits, and he asks you : "hey, I like very much Dire Straits, what MK album would you recommand to listen first ?"
I think there are great probabilty that you will recommend STP first, not KTGC or RPD, right ?
well, I don't want to bring too much expectations, but I think I can say without taking too much risk, that in less than 2 months you will recommend Down the road wherever too...
I don't know. Possible. Maybe Get Lucky...
This fragment interested me more:
"I think I can say without taking too much risk, that in less than 2 months you will recommend Down the road wherever too...
A new album one of the most beautiful?
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I would recommend TRD anytime.
Wonderful album.
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I would recommend TRD anytime.
Wonderful album.
I loveTRD too, and the subject is not if it's a wonderful album or not, it's more about if it would interest a DS fan or not
Believe me, I tried many times and when someone is hearing devil baby, marbletown, old pigweed, title track, quality shoe or a place where we used to live, it's not really what he expected, when he liked songs like when it comes to you, calling elvis or planet of new orleans
don't misunderstand me, and do'nt expect epic guitar solos. But, the guitar tones, the overall sound, the global production, the groove, the general feeling, whatever you name it, could attract some DS fans, more than previous albums. At least I've heard several songs that could fit very well the radio mainstream actual style, and it was not really the case on albums like KTGC, tracker, rPD or even Privateering and Get lucky, and even if I also love these albums. but we are fans, not the average public.
Well it's just a guess, maybe time will tell I'm wrong. let's see...
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TRD has a special unique feel.
It is slow, yes, but not nearly as dull as KTGC (save for Punish the Monkey).
It is the closest thing to a "concept album" that Mark has ever come to. Poor, simple people, having small victories.
WAM is a great uptempo single, 2002 live versions are amazing. HFB has become a live classic, not only because the added end guitar solo, but also for the peaceful, sad atmosphere. A place we used to live is so... calming. Coyote is great fun, live it was a staple in 2010. The title track is touching.
Sometimes I like it even better than STP. Maybe Mark's most underrated album...
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TRD has a special unique feel.
It is slow, yes, but not nearly as dull as KTGC (save for Punish the Monkey).
It is the closest thing to a "concept album" that Mark has ever come to. Poor, simple people, having small victories.
WAM is a great uptempo single, 2002 live versions are amazing. HFB has become a live classic, not only because the added end guitar solo, but also for the peaceful, sad atmosphere. A place we used to live is so... calming. Coyote is great fun, live it was a staple in 2010. The title track is touching.
Sometimes I like it even better than STP. Maybe Mark's most underrated album...
TRD to me is the link between MK, the Dire Straits frontman searching for its own identity as a solo artists and MK, the solo artist that knows where he wants to go musically in his solo career.
STP was a first step into that direction, after a first solo record full of songs with some DS feel in them, some country and some celtic ones, a mix of things without a clear direction; STP was different to GH but it wasn't yet what MK would be as a solo artist, still DS feel in it but with some strange kind og sound, different...
TRD really put him in its own path as a solo artist.
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TRD has a special unique feel.
It is slow, yes, but not nearly as dull as KTGC (save for Punish the Monkey).
It is the closest thing to a "concept album" that Mark has ever come to. Poor, simple people, having small victories.
WAM is a great uptempo single, 2002 live versions are amazing. HFB has become a live classic, not only because the added end guitar solo, but also for the peaceful, sad atmosphere. A place we used to live is so... calming. Coyote is great fun, live it was a staple in 2010. The title track is touching.
Sometimes I like it even better than STP. Maybe Mark's most underrated album...
I like to think that Shangri-La might be his most underrated, but The Ragpicker's Dream is probably the closest to my heart. I I were forced to keep but one of his albums (and thanks God I'm not), it might be this one.
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TRD contains two magnificant songs 'Hill Farmer's Blues' and 'A Place Where We Used To Live'. Though i must say that I prefer to listen to the live version of HFB from the Get Lucky tour. The Amsterdam 2010.06.28 recording is the best HFB version I came accross from that tour. If you think there is a better version let me know though. But keep in mind that a longer version is not necessarily a better version. The bass sits so well in the 2010.06.28 recording and because of that adding an extra dimension to the song.
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TRD contains two magnificant songs 'Hill Farmer's Blues' and 'A Place Where We Used To Live'. Though i must say that I prefer to listen to the live version of HFB from the Get Lucky tour. The Amsterdam 2010.06.28 recording is the best HFB version I came accross from that tour. If you think there is a better version let me know though. But keep in mind that a longer version is not necessarily a better version. The bass sits so well in the 2010.06.28 recording and because of that adding an extra dimension to the song.
I like HFB from Glasgow and Birmingham on that tour.
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Birmingham has the longest HFB solo of all tours i think
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Listened to the Glasgow recording on Youtube imho the Amsterdam recoding is way better soundwise and vocally. Still need to listen to Birmingham, but that one is not easy to find.
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Listened to the Glasgow recording on Youtube imho the Amserdam recoding is way better soundwise and vocally. Still need to listen to Birmingham, but that one is not easy to find.
My favourite is Manchester.
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For the people who haven't heard the HFB Amsterdam recording from June 28, 2010:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRIZw4o03nY
(Video is from Rome and audio from Amsterdam)
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This is pretty off-topic. Just saying.
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JF, by the way, did you detect the National on the new album? You know the story about this guitar appearing on every album.
LE
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JF, by the way, did you detect the National on the new album? You know the story about this guitar appearing on every album.
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Now you ask it, indeed I don't remember any National guitar sounds. And I'm quite sure I would have noticed it if I had heard it. Maybe on bonus tracks ? :think
indeed it appears on every album until GH, played by Mark, but after :
on STP it's on Junkie doll but played by Richard ? (at least he played it live)
on TRD, there a national slide guitar on old pigweed, but I guess it's Richard's one, the one with a square neck that he plays on his laps, not Mark's one
the same on SL on all that matters
it appears again on ATRR on donkey town
then also on KTGC on heart full of holes ans fish and the bird (an maybe on fizzy and the still ? , not sure)
I think GL hasn't got any national guitar
Privateering features the national on Haul away and radio city serenade
And on tracker, I don't remember right now
so indeed the guitar appears on almost all albums, but not exactly all
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JF in how many songs the slide technique play?
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Thanks for all the info and opinions on the new album JF!
Are there any piano or hammond soli on the new album?
As for the National, to my ears it sounds like Mark on the regular National on Old Pigweed and I think Haul Away was played on the Martin acoustic insteed of the National on the studio version.
Which are your favourite songs from the new album right now? And why?
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JF in how many songs the slide technique play?
only on one song : Just A Boy Away From Home
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JF in how many songs the slide technique play?
only on one song : Just A Boy Away From Home
That's good news!!! :D
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JF in how many songs the slide technique play?
only on one song : Just A Boy Away From Home
I am surprised
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Are there any piano or hammond soli on the new album?
Nice piano licks (not really a "solo" though) on the two jazzy tunes : when you leave and slow learner
piano "riff" on the outro on My bacon roll
"strong" piano on Drover"s road, but no solo
gorgeous piano on floating away; the outro blends piano, guitar and organ/synth, beautiful !
organ intro on one song at a time, tone is a little bit like on our shangri-la
As for the National, to my ears it sounds like Mark on the regular National on Old Pigweed
You mean on slide ? I would rather bet for Richard on lap, but just speculation of course
Which are your favourite songs from the new album right now? And why?
very hard to choose. I like them all, but I think because they are new for my ears
My top 5 would be : trapper man, back on the dance floor, floating away, nobody does that, slow learner
but also one song at a time, nobody"s child
at the start of the week, I tent to skip Good on you son, because it wasn't "new" like other songs, but now I love listen to it, it fits very well in the album's dynamics
why these songs ?
trapper man, back on the dance floor, nobody does that, and good on you son, because they sounds "modern", "fresh", "active", great in the car or on bike ! and to my ears they have a Dire Straits flavour. I love when Mark plays acoustic folk, but I think it was a little bit too much on Tracker. Here it sounds like he's rocking again ! (be carreful with my words, it's all relative, I mean that in mark's world of course.. ::))
slow learner and when you leave, very touching, beautiful music
Floating away : that's Mark's laid-back style ! music between six blade knife, blood and water, and someday. I love this kind of ambiance ala JJ cale
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difficult for me to describe but here is another argument :
this morning, I put the album in the car, and my second daughter (who knows a little bit MK and likes very much songs like border reiver, piper at he end, LAJADAS, Bonaparte, going home...yes, all the irish/scottish stuff) said something like : "hey it's not his current style, he did not that on pevious albums, it's cool, I like it very much !"
She is 18 years old, and she listens to music from his generation, but also to classic rock music
what I want to say is that someone who is not a MK fan, but listens to him occasionnaly noticed immediately that this album sounds "new" and "fresh"
An yes you can kill me : my daughter heard the new MK album before you.... :-X
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JF, would you adopt me ? :D
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JF, would you adopt me ? :D
:lol :lol :lol
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what I want to say is that someone who is not a MK fan, but listens to him occasionnaly noticed immediately that this album sounds "new" and "fresh"
I had exact the same reaction from my friend when i showed him Good On You Son, and he also listens to MK occasionally...
and I'm happy for your girls who could enjoy in this new album already!
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Hi JF,
another question for you :)
listen good on you son, you, find the drums playing in two way, the first a normal sound and after the solo persussions a drums play in another way, like almost I never listen in Mark's works, maybe in some track on Shot at glory. Now when say 'new and fresh' is also for its? The drums played in Good on you son (second part) I will find in other parts of the album or is an single (I hope) track?
All The Best
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JF, if you had leaked the record anonymously you would had avoided all these questions and your name would had stayed clean and out of danger, LOL
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Hi JF,
another question for you :)
listen good on you son, you, find the drums playing in two way, the first a normal sound and after the solo persussions a drums play in another way, like almost I never listen in Mark's works, maybe in some track on Shot at glory. Now when say 'new and fresh' is also for its? The drums played in Good on you son (second part) I will find in other parts of the album or is an single (I hope) track?
All The Best
on Trapper Man, there is a part with percussions and vocals only. I like it a lot.
on Nobody does that, ther is that kind of funky/drums
on Heavy up, the tune ends with only vocals
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Hi JF,
another question for you :)
listen good on you son, you, find the drums playing in two way, the first a normal sound and after the solo persussions a drums play in another way, like almost I never listen in Mark's works, maybe in some track on Shot at glory. Now when say 'new and fresh' is also for its? The drums played in Good on you son (second part) I will find in other parts of the album or is an single (I hope) track?
All The Best
on Trapper Man, there is a part with percussions and vocals only. I like it a lot.
on Nobody does that, ther is that kind of funky/drums
on Heavy up, the tune ends with only vocals
:thumbsup
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difficult for me to describe but here is another argument :
this morning, I put the album in the car, and my second daughter (who knows a little bit MK and likes very much songs like border reiver, piper at he end, LAJADAS, Bonaparte, going home...yes, all the irish/scottish stuff) said something like : "hey it's not his current style, he did not that on pevious albums, it's cool, I like it very much !"
She is 18 years old, and she listens to music from his generation, but also to classic rock music
what I want to say is that someone who is not a MK fan, but listens to him occasionnaly noticed immediately that this album sounds "new" and "fresh"
An yes you can kill me : my daughter heard the new MK album before you.... :-X
JF, would you say that the new album is the most rocking one in Mark's solo career? Up to now, it was the GH album for me. Is there a song which has the nice lead guitar sound (pensa) as in you and your friend (live tour 1991/92) or in kingdom of gold (last tour) ?
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JF, if you had leaked the record anonymously you would had avoided all these questions and your name would had stayed clean and out of danger, LOL
I think that what doing JF is in perfect armony with what want company records or the artist: talking about not share, if you want listen you must buy it ::)
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JF, would you say that the new album is the most rocking one in Mark's solo career? Up to now, it was the GH album for me. Is there a song which has the nice lead guitar sound (pensa) as in you and your friend (live tour 1991/92) or in kingdom of gold (last tour) ?
"rockin" would be a bit too much to describe it.
I would rather say it's the most "rhytmic" if it makes sense. I find many dynamcis in the rhythm.
you know the kind of songs that makes you tap your feet or move your head :D
but it's not "rocking" like imelda, don't you get it, SAN etc...
I think it's the most "groovy" one in Mark's solo career :)
as for guitar tones, there are indeed very nice lead tones, but I'm not sure when it's the pensa or the LP.
the guitar tone on Back on the dance floor is the closest to the OES era, or Silvertown blues, this kind of tone
other tones are between GH, STP and OES I may say
several songs have the tone I love : it's note really clean, it's not really saturated, it's note really crunch, it's just in between, and I like it very much because I find that Mark has too many times been "dichotomic" so to speak : it was too much clean (the marvin tone with the 54 ) or too much saturated (The LP), or too much thin (the 64 strat on slide)
on this album, I find that he got his typical tone again : warm, round, subtle...when you hear it you can say it's Mark for sure !
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Waiting becomes very exhausting when reading reviews. Thanks JF. And how does Mark sing? Often in high tones?
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Waiting becomes very exhausting when reading reviews. Thanks JF. And how does Mark sing? Often in high tones?
sorry for the torture :-[
yes I find that he is more in high tones than usual, but maybe this is a general impression that could be "biased" by the female background vocals
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But it's pleasant torture ;) Natural voice Mark is better because I asked:)
Nobody Child
"Even higher than “paragayyyyy” ! yes ! at first listen I though tit was a female background vocal, but no it’s Mark
I like it a lot"
There are more similar fragments?
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But it's pleasant torture ;) Natural voice Mark is better because I asked:)
Nobody Child
"Even higher than “paragayyyyy” ! yes ! at first listen I though tit was a female background vocal, but no it’s Mark
I like it a lot"
There are more similar fragments?
not really. this segment is very particular. he sings very high "cow cow", and then "yeppe yeppe yeah" normaly
and the ambiance is special : minor key, slow pace, strange... (at least for me)
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Ok:) Why do not you like Heavy Up? :)
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Which song moves you the most in terms of guitar? I mean, Which one has the best moving solo in your opinion?
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Ok:) Why do not you like Heavy Up? :)
after listening to it several times it's ok, but nothing more.
in terms of music, It's a song like pulling down the ride, quality shoe...easy listening, but nothing touching (for ME of course)
and the other reason is that I find it brokes the album dynamic.
from the start to slow learner, you have a perfect blend of fast/slow paces, major/minor keys, clean/saturated tones, acoustic/electric etc...
Slow learner would have made a beautiful ending imho
and then you have this kind of "dancing" tune...it's like it's a bonus track, but to me it doesn't really fit with the rest of the album ambiance.
I know there are other editions with other tracks inserted inside the tracklist, so my view is based on the "standard" edition
maybe the album will work differently with all the songs included
but for now, from Trapper Man to slow learner, there is no song I want to skip
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Which song moves you the most in terms of guitar? I mean, Which one has the best moving solo in your opinion?
In fact the best moving solos FOR ME, are the trumpet ones on when you leave and slow learner.
these two songs move me the most
I love the other songs, but not in term of "moving", more in term of "grooving", "driving", if you see what I mean
There is no moving solo ala BIA , YAYF, etc..it's not this kind of guitars. It's more "ambient style" ala JJ cale, this kind of feeling, or a little bit "rocking" guitars (careful, I mean in MK's world, all is relative, don't expect too much though ;)) but there are not "epic" or "long" solos
It's more an overall sound feeling.
I have the impresion to hear the same guy who sings and play when it comes to you, millionaire blues, someday, six blade knife, ride across the river...that kind of "atmosphere" song (I think this word is more relevant than "ambient")
sorry for typos, I fixed them :)
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"someday, six blade knife, ride across the river...
and my heart beat harder
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I listened today album Eric Clapton Pilgrim and I wonder if similar female vocals are on the new MK album. I think about proportions.
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I listened today album Eric Clapton Pilgrim and I wonder if similar female vocals are on the new MK album. I think about proportions.
I must admit I don't know this album (only by name)
I love EC, but mostly his 60-70-80 career, and also Journeyman and Unplugged.
I am not much interested on what he 's done after that
so I can't answer
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I understand :) Pilgrim is the last album by Eric that I really like. Fully original. The first song "My Father's Eyes" with female choirs inspired me and I thought about the new album MK. I think about him all the time :)
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I understand :) Pilgrim is the last album by Eric that I really like. Fully original. The first song "My Father's Eyes" with female choirs inspired me and I thought about the new album MK. I think about him all the time :)
I got Pilgrim, in there is a most beautiful song that he done ever, River or tears, and other pretty things, but IMO the sound of the whole album is too Babyfaced, too far from my tastes, that are for the classic-rock-blues. Hope that DTRW is an album where sinths stuffs are used in soft way... :thumbsup
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I listened today album Eric Clapton Pilgrim and I wonder if similar female vocals are on the new MK album. I think about proportions.
I must admit I don't know this album (only by name)
I love EC, but mostly his 60-70-80 career, and also Journeyman and Unplugged.
I am not much interested on what he 's done after that
so I can't answer
I like very much the trio "Pilgrim-Reptile-Back Home", is like a biographic thing about EC, it starts with EC singing to the lost of his son Connor and linking it with his absent father and him being Connor's father, with a travel to his childhood in "Reptile" and going "Back home" after healing himself from all his grieve.
After that trio of records, the following ones were ok but not as good as that three, at least to me. It's true that Pilgrim has a too modern sound, with too much programming but it doesn't bothers me at all. That three records represent to me the last ones that EC did trying to search for his musical path in the 90's and 2000's, after Back Home, he stops searching and enjoy the results of that search.
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I like Pilgrim quite a lot, especially the quality of the songs, but the electronic/programmed drums sound rather awful. The song Broken Hearted, for instance, sounds fantastic up until the point where the electronic drums kick in.
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Month.
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Month.
And 5 days
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Month.
And 5 days
Yes I know ;)
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I listened today album Eric Clapton Pilgrim and I wonder if similar female vocals are on the new MK album. I think about proportions.
I must admit I don't know this album (only by name)
I love EC, but mostly his 60-70-80 career, and also Journeyman and Unplugged.
I am not much interested on what he 's done after that
so I can't answer
I like very much the trio "Pilgrim-Reptile-Back Home", is like a biographic thing about EC, it starts with EC singing to the lost of his son Connor and linking it with his absent father and him being Connor's father, with a travel to his childhood in "Reptile" and going "Back home" after healing himself from all his grieve.
After that trio of records, the following ones were ok but not as good as that three, at least to me. It's true that Pilgrim has a too modern sound, with too much programming but it doesn't bothers me at all. That three records represent to me the last ones that EC did trying to search for his musical path in the 90's and 2000's, after Back Home, he stops searching and enjoy the results of that search.
I can see what you see in Pilgrim, but oh boy, I've just heard Claptons version of Jingle Bells (off his Christmas album, in memory of Avicii), and it's just SO embarrassing. Made me realize that I really shouldn't complain too much about Guy Fletcher's (negative, IMO) infuence on Mark's mucic. This (Clapton doing Avicii) is on a whole other lever of awfulness.
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Guy Fletcher is keeping up with what started with Brothers in Arms from my point of view. Apart from some small slips (Coyote synth horns, Beryl) I really love what he is doing in general. He can create synth landscapes that really give Mark's songs a new, broader dimension. Hill Farmer's Blues, Sucker Row, Before Gas & TV, all good examples. The point about some fresh input by some other producer is alright with me, but not because Guy world have made too many mistakes. Good On You Son only exists because of Guy I could imagine.
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Guy Fletcher is keeping up with what started with Brothers in Arms from my point of view. Apart from some small slips (Coyote synth horns, Beryl) I really love what he is doing in general. He can create synth landscapes that really give Mark's songs a new, broader dimension. Hill Farmer's Blues, Sucker Row, Before Gas & TV, all good examples. The point about some fresh input by some other producer is alright with me, but not because Guy world have made too many mistakes. Good On You Son only exists because of Guy I could imagine.
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I understand what you say about creating landscapes. And I must admit that it "works" on many songs. The songs you mention are among my favourites (didn't notice that Before Gas & TV contains synths, though, does it? That would be kind of ironic given the title). And it's not that Guy wouldn't have a good ear, or that he wouldn't know what keys to play. He does. I just whish he'd play them on a proper instrument, as he did on Shangri-La. But yeah, right, at least he doesn't do Avicii. ;)
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Maybe it's organ on Gas & TV ... and he plays all pianos on Tracker, Silver Eagle for example.
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I had a listen to the entire Happy Xmas album by Clapton. Apart from the novelty of adding blues licks to Christmas songs, it's a weak album. And Jingle Bells is just horrible, although I respect Clapton for paying a tribute to Avicii. I understand he did it because Avicii struggled with substance abuse, and I respect that, even though I couldn't care less about Avicii the artist.
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JP you can talk a little more about the first three songs on the album ? maybe a more extensive review. Please please
Do you listen to the new album a lot?
What are the songs you listen to the most?
thanks ...
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JF, is it your paper ?
https://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/musique/rock/un-parfum-de-dire-straits-dans-le-dernier-album-de-mark-knopfler-281581 (https://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/musique/rock/un-parfum-de-dire-straits-dans-le-dernier-album-de-mark-knopfler-281581)
I don't yet have time to read it but it seems very interesting. Not the usual "the voice and the guitar of Dire Straits" ...
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JF, is it your paper ?
https://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/musique/rock/un-parfum-de-dire-straits-dans-le-dernier-album-de-mark-knopfler-281581 (https://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/musique/rock/un-parfum-de-dire-straits-dans-le-dernier-album-de-mark-knopfler-281581)
I don't yet have time to read it but it seems very interesting. Not the usual "the voice and the guitar of Dire Straits" ...
yes it is :)