A Mark In Time

Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Robson on June 05, 2019, 07:38:01 PM

Title: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 05, 2019, 07:38:01 PM
40 years ago...
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Pottel on June 05, 2019, 08:28:31 PM
40 years ago...
A favourite....

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Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 05, 2019, 09:11:14 PM
Wonderful album. I have many beautiful memories. And the sea waves between Single Handed Sailor and the lunar Follow Me Home...
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: straitsway75 on June 05, 2019, 09:21:52 PM
My fav  8) 8)
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: jbaent on June 06, 2019, 07:59:32 AM
https://youtu.be/iebraZM8158
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Post by: wakeywakey on June 06, 2019, 05:07:35 PM
And the cover was voted best of the year.
Would love a BIG poster of that:)
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Post by: jbaent on June 06, 2019, 09:31:41 PM
And the cover was voted best of the year.
Would love a BIG poster of that:)

It's the only live version of this Dire Straits song played by DS members, although in a tribute band.

It's curious that MK arrived with this song when the record was almost finished, ended being the title of it, but never performing it live...
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 07, 2019, 01:40:25 AM
And the cover was voted best of the year.
Would love a BIG poster of that:)

My favorite cover. I Love Over Gold too ... But the blue envelope was more personal...
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: hunter on June 07, 2019, 11:24:05 AM
Such a lovely album. The first album was gritty, a bit rough around the edges, beautiful in its own right. Then came Communique, much smoother production, a bit more melancholic. It is similar to the first album, but still different enough that I'm surprised this album has been judged as a hurried production, not too inspired, etc. So many classic songs on this record. Great shame Mark hasn't performed more of the songs from it over the years.
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: goon525 on June 07, 2019, 01:12:10 PM
Such a lovely album. The first album was gritty, a bit rough around the edges, beautiful in its own right. Then came Communique, much smoother production, a bit more melancholic. It is similar to the first album, but still different enough that I'm surprised this album has been judged as a hurried production, not too inspired, etc. So many classic songs on this record. Great shame Mark hasn't performed more of the songs from it over the years.

Agreed. Although at least we are getting some major compensation this tour!
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: wakeywakey on June 07, 2019, 02:08:59 PM
Such a lovely album. The first album was gritty, a bit rough around the edges, beautiful in its own right. Then came Communique, much smoother production, a bit more melancholic. It is similar to the first album, but still different enough that I'm surprised this album has been judged as a hurried production, not too inspired, etc. So many classic songs on this record. Great shame Mark hasn't performed more of the songs from it over the years.

Agreed. Although at least we are getting some major compensation this tour!

I'm not sure we really are.
This version is better than nothing but is so slow it borders on soporific.
I can understand the reasoning but to almost murder OUATITW and completely kill MFN is a real shame.
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: naif on June 07, 2019, 02:13:41 PM
Such a lovely album. The first album was gritty, a bit rough around the edges, beautiful in its own right. Then came Communique, much smoother production, a bit more melancholic. It is similar to the first album, but still different enough that I'm surprised this album has been judged as a hurried production, not too inspired, etc. So many classic songs on this record. Great shame Mark hasn't performed more of the songs from it over the years.

Agreed. Although at least we are getting some major compensation this tour!

I'm not sure we really are.
This version is better than nothing but is so slow it borders on soporific.
I can understand the reasoning but to almost murder OUATITW and completely kill MFN is a real shame.

I can understand how you feel about OUATITW but MFN is shining like a northern star in this tour.
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: superval99 on June 07, 2019, 02:19:44 PM
Such a lovely album. The first album was gritty, a bit rough around the edges, beautiful in its own right. Then came Communique, much smoother production, a bit more melancholic. It is similar to the first album, but still different enough that I'm surprised this album has been judged as a hurried production, not too inspired, etc. So many classic songs on this record. Great shame Mark hasn't performed more of the songs from it over the years.

Agreed. Although at least we are getting some major compensation this tour!

I'm not sure we really are.
This version is better than nothing but is so slow it borders on soporific.
I can understand the reasoning but to almost murder OUATITW and completely kill MFN is a real shame.

I agree that OUATITW is a bit on the slow side compared to the Alchemy version, but MFN is fantastic!   Have you actually been to a show to hear it yet and if so, which one?
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: jbaent on June 07, 2019, 03:40:39 PM
Do you remember when talking about dreaming set list people usually put songs like OUATITW between that desired songs?

This is the nowadays MK, not the one from DS and this is what you would get.

Actually, I liked the OUATITW version a lot.
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 07, 2019, 05:44:50 PM
Do you remember when talking about dreaming set list people usually put songs like OUATITW between that desired songs?

This is the nowadays MK, not the one from DS and this is what you would get.

Actually, I liked the OUATITW version a lot.

Exactly.
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Post by: superval99 on June 07, 2019, 05:58:47 PM
Do you remember when talking about dreaming set list people usually put songs like OUATITW between that desired songs?

This is the nowadays MK, not the one from DS and this is what you would get.

Actually, I liked the OUATITW version a lot.

Yes, I do remember and although the MK version is slower, I'm still enjoying it, especially live in concert.    :)
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: GuitarChris on June 07, 2019, 06:15:56 PM
Do you remember when talking about dreaming set list people usually put songs like OUATITW between that desired songs?

This is the nowadays MK, not the one from DS and this is what you would get.

Actually, I liked the OUATITW version a lot.

Yes this version is great. I like it much more than the album version. And I like the sound of the Gibson more than the Schecter on the Alchemy version. The Gibson has more power. It is a large present that they played this song in this nice version after so many years. For me one of the highlights of this tour. Never expected to hear it live.
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: wakeywakey on June 07, 2019, 06:26:30 PM
Well if MFN is shining like a Northern star this tour I'd better keep quiet!
However for me mumbling a few words,making some up and not bothering with the rest is BAD(and not in the good way!)
I will concede the percussion is vg on it and the guitar is decent but the lack of coherent vocals are a big put off for me.It is this tours Skydiver.
However this thread is about Communique and what a great album it is.He would go on and write better songs but as an album it is so easy to just lay back and soak in ALL that Communique has to offer.It is debatable he ever achieved this again.
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: wakeywakey on June 07, 2019, 06:30:18 PM
Do you remember when talking about dreaming set list people usually put songs like OUATITW between that desired songs?

This is the nowadays MK, not the one from DS and this is what you would get.

Actually, I liked the OUATITW version a lot.

Yes this version is great. I like it much more than the album version. And I like the sound of the Gibson more than the Schecter on the Alchemy version. The Gibson has more power. It is a large present that they played this song in this nice version after so many years. For me one of the highlights of this tour. Never expected to hear it live.
I would imagine he is using the Gibson because it has a shorter scale and is easier on his fingers(less stretching.)
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: superval99 on June 07, 2019, 06:38:48 PM
@ wakeywakey - You didn't answer my question about whether you have been to a show yet and if so, which one?     ;)
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: jbaent on June 07, 2019, 06:42:07 PM
He's using the Gibson because his playing is not that excellent to play with a clean sound fender and a noisy Gibson would do a better job.

He's playing his fender very little and when he does it it uses effects with distortion instead of his usual clean sound.

I guess he feels more comfortable with that distortion sound. I don't like it but it's what it is.

Communiqué was a great fender record. Old times.
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: superval99 on June 07, 2019, 06:44:18 PM
The thing that I have noticed about the lyrics of MFN is that he seems to alternate between "earring and make-up on" and make-up and earring on" and it seems to befuddle him a bit!   ;D
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: jbaent on June 07, 2019, 06:46:07 PM
The thing that I have noticed about the lyrics of MFN is that he seems to alternate between "earring and make-up on" and make-up and earring on" and it seems to befuddle him a bit!   ;D

He can't remember his lyrics and despite wearing glasses he can't read the lyrics in the teleprompter either...
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: GuitarChris on June 07, 2019, 06:48:47 PM
Well if MFN is shining like a Northern star this tour I'd better keep quiet!
However for me mumbling a few words,making some up and not bothering with the rest is BAD(and not in the good way!)
I will concede the percussion is vg on it and the guitar is decent but the lack of coherent vocals are a big put off for me.It is this tours Skydiver.
However this thread is about Communique and what a great album it is.He would go on and write better songs but as an album it is so easy to just lay back and soak in ALL that Communique has to offer.It is debatable he ever achieved this again.

I can't stand why people are moaning about this tour. We all know the band we see is not Dire Straits and we all know MK is not in his twenties. We can be very happy that he is still touring with his 69 years. He does not need the money. He plays many Dire Straits songs and fantastic songs of his solo career. The singing sounds much better than on the previous tours. They did very nice new arrangements and play songs in other ways than in previous tours. Everybody can see that he has much fun.

If he plays the Gibson because it is easier to play it is ok. It sounds great. That is the main purpose.

So what should he do? Should he play the Live at the BBC, Alchemy and On The Night in one concert to make everybody happy?
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: JF on June 07, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
the exact anniversary date is June 15th. I am currently writing a (french) chronicle, and will post it that day
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: jbaent on June 07, 2019, 07:34:00 PM
Well if MFN is shining like a Northern star this tour I'd better keep quiet!
However for me mumbling a few words,making some up and not bothering with the rest is BAD(and not in the good way!)
I will concede the percussion is vg on it and the guitar is decent but the lack of coherent vocals are a big put off for me.It is this tours Skydiver.
However this thread is about Communique and what a great album it is.He would go on and write better songs but as an album it is so easy to just lay back and soak in ALL that Communique has to offer.It is debatable he ever achieved this again.

I can't stand why people are moaning about this tour. We all know the band we see is not Dire Straits and we all know MK is not in his twenties. We can be very happy that he is still touring with his 69 years. He does not need the money. He plays many Dire Straits songs and fantastic songs of his solo career. The singing sounds much better than on the previous tours. They did very nice new arrangements and play songs in other ways than in previous tours. Everybody can see that he has much fun.

If he plays the Gibson because it is easier to play it is ok. It sounds great. That is the main purpose.

So what should he do? Should he play the Live at the BBC, Alchemy and On The Night in one concert to make everybody happy?

No, that would be a big disaster!!!!!
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 07, 2019, 07:37:09 PM
the exact anniversary date is June 15th. I am currently writing a (french) chronicle, and will post it that day

Wikipedia also 15.06 but my source: 5.06 :)
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: jbaent on June 07, 2019, 07:40:10 PM
the exact anniversary date is June 15th. I am currently writing a (french) chronicle, and will post it that day

Wikipedia also 15.06 but my source: 5.06 :)

Which source?
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 07, 2019, 07:54:27 PM
Our source :) For example, a tour book. And also an old site with a very accurate history of DS. Unfortunately, this page is closed
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: ds1984 on June 07, 2019, 08:33:48 PM
OUATITW is great sounding live in the venue.





Title: Re: Communique
Post by: jbaent on June 07, 2019, 08:44:56 PM
Our source :) For example, a tour book. And also an old site with a very accurate history of DS. Unfortunately, this page is closed

Sometimes the European, NA and rest of the world release dates are different
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 07, 2019, 08:58:19 PM
Our source :) For example, a tour book. And also an old site with a very accurate history of DS. Unfortunately, this page is closed

Sometimes the European, NA and rest of the world release dates are different

It is true. For sure the beginning of June :) 15.06.1979 it was Friday, 05.06 Tuesday
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Robson on June 08, 2019, 04:19:48 PM
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Title: Re: Communique
Post by: JF on June 15, 2019, 12:39:35 AM
I am currently writing my article about Communique.
I remember reading here that Marks said he wrote Once upon a time while watching the Leone's movie, being drunk
I searched on the net but found nothing
Does anyone has the interview ? a scan or a link ?

thanks in advance
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: Love Expresso on June 15, 2019, 06:24:56 AM
http://ds.mk-guitar.com/knopfler-interviews.htm

Scroll down to the second interview,  that one from Sept 1984 by Dan Forte,  and there then it's one of the last questions.

LE
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: JF on June 15, 2019, 10:12:46 AM
http://ds.mk-guitar.com/knopfler-interviews.htm

Scroll down to the second interview,  that one from Sept 1984 by Dan Forte,  and there then it's one of the last questions.

LE

many thanks LE !  :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: JF on June 15, 2019, 12:15:43 PM
and here it is :
https://www.facebook.com/notes/textes-blog-and-rocknroll/lalbum-communiqu%C3%A9-de-dire-straits-est-sorti-il-y-a-40-ans-aujourdhui/606114593222312/
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: wakeywakey on June 22, 2019, 05:39:59 PM
@ wakeywakey - You didn't answer my question about whether you have been to a show yet and if so, which one?     ;)

Two shows,none of which you have listed as attending.
Crowd were great at both-apart from me:)
The "limitations" are very sad to witness and although it is still great being at an MK show,the actual show is slightly underwhelming.


Title: Re: Communique
Post by: straitsway75 on June 22, 2019, 09:25:43 PM
and here it is :
https://www.facebook.com/notes/textes-blog-and-rocknroll/lalbum-communiqu%C3%A9-de-dire-straits-est-sorti-il-y-a-40-ans-aujourdhui/606114593222312/
wonderful work amigo  :clap :clap
Title: Re: Communique
Post by: JF on June 22, 2019, 11:58:24 PM
and here it is :
https://www.facebook.com/notes/textes-blog-and-rocknroll/lalbum-communiqu%C3%A9-de-dire-straits-est-sorti-il-y-a-40-ans-aujourdhui/606114593222312/
wonderful work amigo  :clap :clap

thanks !