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Title: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: allen on June 06, 2019, 07:16:09 AM
DTRW TOUR 2019 [C 28] UK/Europe leg 28
(https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6793.0;attach=3352)

VENUE & LATEST TICKET INFO
Location:- https://www.stockholmlive.com/
Buy Tickets:- http://axs.com/se/events/363788/mark-knopfler-tickets?skin=livenationse
Clock @ Weather: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sweden/stockholm

DIARIES
Guy Fletcher D.T.R.W. tour Diary: http://guyfletcher.co.uk/category/2019-european-tour-diary/
Richard Bennett Notes from the Road: https://www.richard-bennett.com/notes-from-the-road

A.M.I.T. HUB
Who’s going where?: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6400.0
Tickets : sale / exchange / wanted: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=48.0
Pre-concert meetings: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=49.0

PREVIOUS/NEXT MARK KNOPFLER Concert
Previous concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6962.0
Next Concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6980.0

Buy USB’S of this concert:- https://store.markknopfler.com/down-the-road-wherever-live-2019?utm_source=website&utm_medium=landingpage&utm_campaign=04_25_19&utm_content=dtrw_liveconcerts
29 songs were played on the 2015 tour
21 songs yet played on this tour

SET LIST

01. Why Aye Man
02. Corned Beef City
03. Sailing to Philadelphia
04. Once Upon A Time In The West
05. Romeo and Juliet
06. My Bacon Roll
07. Matchstick Man
08. Done With Bonaparte
09. Heart Full of Holes
10. She's Gone
11. Your Latest Trick
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. On Every Street
14. Speedway at Nazareth

Encores
15. Money For Nothing
16. Piper to the End
17. Going Home
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on June 10, 2019, 01:29:34 PM
Soon arriving in Stockholm. Will write a post about my impressions and eventual setlist changes after the concert tomorrow. However don't expect any news on the set  :lol
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Silvertown on June 10, 2019, 01:43:14 PM
Soon arriving in Stockholm. Will write a post about my impressions and eventual setlist changes after the concert tomorrow. However don't expect any news on the set  :lol

Just enjoy the show and don´t take too much pressure about the changes on the set.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: jbaent on June 10, 2019, 02:39:20 PM
Which changes?

LOL
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on June 10, 2019, 02:43:50 PM
Which changes?

LOL

Haha yea that's what I expect. But you can always dream big  :lol
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Maxx on June 11, 2019, 09:34:21 AM
Looking forward for tonight's show! Altough, it's a bit sad that this most likely is the last time I'll see him live. I'm sure he'll continue playing live every now and then for special occasions, tho.

Is it correct that they had a day off in Stockholm yesterday?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-joy

 
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on June 11, 2019, 10:11:07 AM
Looking forward for tonight's show! Altough, it's a bit sad that this most likely is the last time I'll see him live. I'm sure he'll continue playing live every now and then for special occasions, tho.

Is it correct that they had a day off in Stockholm yesterday?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-joy

Yes day off in Stockholm. The trucks are already here

(https://i.imgur.com/z0tSC22.jpg)
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on June 11, 2019, 07:14:33 PM
So.. very special happening this afternoon..

We waited in the rain for 6hrs... Finally the cars arrived but they went through the gates.. One of the drivers said "We'll be back in a minute".. The band van got back with Marcus and Peter Mackay. They told us to jump in and we would get autographs. We got in and went underneath the Globe where all the staff is working. Was told we were not meeting MK in person but Peter walked away and came back with autographs on our CD and LP.. and got some bottles of water.. then Marcus drove us back outside and dropped us. This is amazing and such a nice gesture of them. Just having a ride in their band van is unbelievable :lol

Coming up.. the concert itself! :thumbsup
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Maxx on June 11, 2019, 07:23:36 PM
So.. very special happening this afternoon..

We waited in the rain for 6hrs... Finally the cars arrived but they went through the gates.. One of the drivers said "We'll be back in a minute".. The band van got back with Marcus and Peter McKay. They told us to jump in and we would get autographs. We got in and went underneath the Globe where all the staff is working. Was told we were not meeting MK in person but Peter walked away and came back with autographs on our CD and LP.. and got some bottles of water.. then Marcus drove us back outside and dropped us. This is amazing and such a nice gesture of them. Just having a ride in their band van is unbelievable

Coming up.. the concert itself! :thumbsup
Not bad! Impressing with 6 hour sin the rain.

Skickat från min SM-G930F via Tapatalk

Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: kaleo74 on June 11, 2019, 08:16:30 PM
So.. very special happening this afternoon..

We waited in the rain for 6hrs... Finally the cars arrived but they went through the gates.. One of the drivers said "We'll be back in a minute".. The band van got back with Marcus and Peter McKay. They told us to jump in and we would get autographs. We got in and went underneath the Globe where all the staff is working. Was told we were not meeting MK in person but Peter walked away and came back with autographs on our CD and LP.. and got some bottles of water.. then Marcus drove us back outside and dropped us. This is amazing and such a nice gesture of them. Just having a ride in their band van is unbelievable

Coming up.. the concert itself! :thumbsup
Not bad! Impressing with 6 hour sin the rain.

Skickat från min SM-G930F via Tapatalk

Good on you ! Now you're buying a Mercedes Van  ;D
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on June 11, 2019, 10:25:47 PM
Same set as Oslo. Was hoping for BIA very much but can't get all. Super super concert and very nice gesture of them as described above. A day/night to remember  8)
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: dannr1 on June 11, 2019, 10:47:04 PM
 :thumbsup Piper is a very emotional encore though :) and what a nice gesture, shows they really appreciate us fans and that this isnt just work for them..
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on June 11, 2019, 10:56:40 PM
Piper is crap as it is played on this tour; there is no solo at all at the end as Mark merely backs up the brass.  What was once a lovely song is completely ruined and a complete waste of time. 

Going Home doesn't exactly make up for it on this tour either as played on the LP.  ::)
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Knopflerfan on June 11, 2019, 10:59:51 PM
Piper is crap as it is played on this tour; there is no solo at all at the end as Mark merely backs up the brass.  What was once a lovely song is completely ruined and a complete waste of time. 

Going Home doesn't exactly make up for it on this tour either as played on the LP.  ::)

100% agree....
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: crimmer on June 11, 2019, 11:09:10 PM
Agree too guys , but still love being there with guys watching our hero play , if this the last one I'm enjoying every second ,

Piper is crap as it is played on this tour; there is no solo at all at the end as Mark merely backs up the brass.  What was once a lovely song is completely ruined and a complete waste of time. 

Going Home doesn't exactly make up for it on this tour either as played on the LP.  ::)

100% agree....
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: herlock on June 11, 2019, 11:28:01 PM
I think Piper is one of these songs that are best... on the album. Even in 2010 I thought the live versions were slow and lacked energy. On the Get Lucky album, the build up to the guitar end solo is just amazing, never equalled live...
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: kaleo74 on June 12, 2019, 04:10:08 AM
Piper is crap as it is played on this tour; there is no solo at all at the end as Mark merely backs up the brass.  What was once a lovely song is completely ruined and a complete waste of time. 

Going Home doesn't exactly make up for it on this tour either as played on the LP.  ::)

+100  :thumbsup
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 12, 2019, 05:19:22 AM
A Swedish review (Google Translate) https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/musik/a/naMqMJ/knappt-styrfart-for-mummel-knopfler

The first three songs, in particular, of which "Sailing to Philadelphia" was one of those where the guitarist from Dire Straits hardly seemed to touch their lips.

The 69-year-old from Glasgow has never been a showman or entertainer in the true sense of the word, on the contrary. The song should sound like Bob Dylan has taken an extra sleeping pill and still happened to wake up a little too early on a Monday.

But here he sets a new record of being an uncle.

The cut-proof entrance where Knopfler slowly, very slowly, moves across the stage raises an important question:

Will he ever come to the microphone?

It looks like a guitar helps an old man over a crosswalk.


No one requests that Knopfler be anything else. His image and music has always been lovely opposite to the pop industry's ideas about how a rock star should look, behave and be.

But the delivery is a little sad. The presence and intensity could not even blow out a heat candle.

The tempo of the songs rolls forward on the second gear. Button fingers do not set the guitar's tones with the same hypnotic, well-played and beautiful timing. It takes a while before, for example, "Money for nothing" squeaks and slips into the right place among the other instruments.

In view of Knopfler's large and small fantastic song catalog, this year's set list is even of surprises and often carved in stone. And the one who, for example, wanted to hear "Sultans of swing" or "Brothers in arms" may wait in vain.

Mark Knopfler surrounds himself with a brilliant ten-man band of various cats and characters, including the pianist Guy Fletcher who has stayed at the guitarist's side since 1984. All of them give several songs a different sound and color than on the studio album, which becomes especially clear in the Dire Straits jewel ” Once upon a time in the west.

Sometimes the musicians and Knopfler meet in soft jams. Feel free to call for a rock fusion in jeans that breaks the laconic pattern of the gig. In addition, the final with "Piper to the end" and "Going home" is really nice.

But it's like sitting and watching a show being shown in slow motion.

One thing you can still give Knopfler.

He may be the only one who has made a rather brilliant song about a bacon sandwich.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: jbaent on June 12, 2019, 07:48:47 AM
I like that review. It's always nice to know the opinion of someone who is not a fan and look at it from on objective point of view.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Maxx on June 12, 2019, 09:12:44 AM
This was possibly my best MK experience since I first saw him live in 2008. Maybe it was the expectations this time (lower than usual) that made it for me, but this was truly a spectacular evening. Both the guitar playing and singing were mostly A+, and the overall sound was absolutely amazing. The Globe Arena isn't always delivering when it comes to sound quality, but the guys really did it here. He seemed very relaxed and joked around more than I've heard him before.

Standouts:

Done with Bonaparte - Could never believe I would name DWB as a highlight in concert, but the band sounded amazing here and the arrangement was great.
My Bacon Roll - Has never been a favorite for me unlike for most of you other guys, but it fitted well into the set and the solo was close to powerful.
Matchstick Man - Always a bit scary with small songs in a big arena, but it was obviously the most moving song of the night. The audience seemed to think so too.
Speedway at Nazareth - Always a hightlight, stronger than ever.

Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: herlock on June 12, 2019, 09:18:38 AM
Reading this "article", the only words that come to my mind are:
One of these days I will cut you into little pieces...
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: dannr1 on June 12, 2019, 09:23:42 AM
The same is always written in the Norwegian or Swedish reviews anyways. Just a pile of crap. Reviewers mostly without a clue when it comes to Mks solo-career «refusing» to accept that his musical path is different than it was 35-40 years ago, instead labelling it as boring. Bothers me that no one seems to understand My Bacon Roll in terms of lyrics but it might be too subtle for a simple journalist from a tabloid newspaper ??? Rant over with.
Nice picture maxx!
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 12, 2019, 09:36:40 AM
The same is always written in the Norwegian or Swedish reviews anyways. Just a pile of crap. Reviewers mostly without a clue when it comes to Mks solo-career «refusing» to accept that his musical path is different than it was 35-40 years ago, instead labelling it as boring. Bothers me that no one seems to understand My Bacon Roll in terms of lyrics but it might be too subtle for a simple journalist from a tabloid newspaper ??? Rant over with.
Nice picture maxx!

On the flip-side, we are heavily biased fans and view most things related to MK and DS through rose-tinted glasses.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: jbaent on June 12, 2019, 10:01:11 AM
The same is always written in the Norwegian or Swedish reviews anyways. Just a pile of crap. Reviewers mostly without a clue when it comes to Mks solo-career «refusing» to accept that his musical path is different than it was 35-40 years ago, instead labelling it as boring. Bothers me that no one seems to understand My Bacon Roll in terms of lyrics but it might be too subtle for a simple journalist from a tabloid newspaper ??? Rant over with.
Nice picture maxx!

On the flip-side, we are heavily biased fans and view most things related to MK and DS through rose-tinted glasses.

Exactly
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Jarle on June 12, 2019, 12:00:26 PM
The same is always written in the Norwegian or Swedish reviews anyways. Just a pile of crap. Reviewers mostly without a clue when it comes to Mks solo-career «refusing» to accept that his musical path is different than it was 35-40 years ago, instead labelling it as boring. Bothers me that no one seems to understand My Bacon Roll in terms of lyrics but it might be too subtle for a simple journalist from a tabloid newspaper ??? Rant over with.
Nice picture maxx!

On the flip-side, we are heavily biased fans and view most things related to MK and DS through rose-tinted glasses.

Not on this forum, in my opinion.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on June 12, 2019, 02:20:25 PM
I like that review. It's always nice to know the opinion of someone who is not a fan and look at it from on objective point of view.

Me too. It's actually really funny!

Highlights:

"The cut-proof entrance where Knopfler slowly, very slowly, moves across the stage raises an important question:

"Will he ever come to the microphone?

"...it's like sitting and watching a show being shown in slow motion."

 :lol :lol :lol

Compare with the Boston '79 show recently posted on here and nobody can argue with this.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 12, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
I like that review. It's always nice to know the opinion of someone who is not a fan and look at it from on objective point of view.
Compare with the Boston '79 show recently posted on here and nobody can argue with this.

Obviously that comparison isn't fair, and I'd be a little worried if Mark had played and sung now with the same intensity he did in 1979! But the slow movements on stage are not a sign of great health, that's for sure. It's like he's walking to the toilet at 4 in the morning, in the dark.

I liked this part though: "It looks like a guitar helps an old man over a crosswalk."
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on June 12, 2019, 05:01:14 PM
I like that review. It's always nice to know the opinion of someone who is not a fan and look at it from on objective point of view.
Compare with the Boston '79 show recently posted on here and nobody can argue with this.

Obviously that comparison isn't fair, and I'd be a little worried if Mark had played and sung now with the same intensity he did in 1979! But the slow movements on stage are not a sign of great health, that's for sure. It's like he's walking to the toilet at 4 in the morning, in the dark.

I liked this part though: "It looks like a guitar helps an old man over a crosswalk."

Well obviously I don't expect that level from the man, but it was a good example to show the two extremes. :)
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Pottel on June 12, 2019, 08:53:56 PM
Reading this "article", the only words that come to my mind are:
One of these days I will cut you into little pieces...
one of my favourites huhuh.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: dannr1 on June 12, 2019, 08:58:38 PM
The same is always written in the Norwegian or Swedish reviews anyways. Just a pile of crap. Reviewers mostly without a clue when it comes to Mks solo-career «refusing» to accept that his musical path is different than it was 35-40 years ago, instead labelling it as boring. Bothers me that no one seems to understand My Bacon Roll in terms of lyrics but it might be too subtle for a simple journalist from a tabloid newspaper ??? Rant over with.
Nice picture maxx!

On the flip-side, we are heavily biased fans and view most things related to MK and DS through rose-tinted glasses.

Exactly
Expected those comments, but that was not my point. They seldom seem neutral and up to date in terms of the artist they are reviewing, they often seem to forget DS was abandoned years ago and that the guy they now review is someone mainly focusing on singing-songwritinf (and very often some of the better lyrics out there) as opposed to the guitar-hero with headband they seem to be hoping for every f-ing time even though he is long gone.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 12, 2019, 09:15:31 PM
The same is always written in the Norwegian or Swedish reviews anyways. Just a pile of crap. Reviewers mostly without a clue when it comes to Mks solo-career «refusing» to accept that his musical path is different than it was 35-40 years ago, instead labelling it as boring. Bothers me that no one seems to understand My Bacon Roll in terms of lyrics but it might be too subtle for a simple journalist from a tabloid newspaper ??? Rant over with.
Nice picture maxx!

On the flip-side, we are heavily biased fans and view most things related to MK and DS through rose-tinted glasses.

Exactly
Expected those comments, but that was not my point. They seldom seem neutral and up to date in terms of the artist they are reviewing, they often seem to forget DS was abandoned years ago and that the guy they now review is someone mainly focusing on singing-songwritinf (and very often some of the better lyrics out there) as opposed to the guitar-hero with headband they seem to be hoping for every f-ing time even though he is long gone.

I disagree. Most reviewers understand that a 70-year-old guy doesn't have the same intensity as someone 20, 30 or 40 years younger. But compared with other artists of the same age, it is a fact that Mark is pretty low energy. No one is expecting the guitar hero from 20 or 30 years ago, but as we have discussed here as well, Mark's playing has clearly suffered over the last few years. And people notice. I also think it is more noticeable in big arenas, which require more life on stage to make up for the lack of intimacy of a small theater.
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 13, 2019, 08:49:00 AM
I think for 95% of Mark's career his playing has been unbelievable, and only in the last few years has that suffered, and he admits this himself.  People have got so used to seeing Mark's playing as completely effortless and fluid, that when it slows down, like it has at the start of this tour, it is noticed, yes his energy levels have also slowed, but that down'st worry me, he has never had to be that kind of front man really. At the age he is now, his priorities have changed, which is fine, he sees himself as a songwriter, not a guitarist. I would want to be retired long before 70, but I am not Mark Knopfler!!! My guitar playing will never ever come close to his, so I think at times people can be hard on him.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 13, 2019, 09:38:25 AM
The thing is, though, that the guitar sort of took over where Mark couldn't go in terms of expression. It became that way. In the early days he would be a lot more involved by the way he sang, as I mentioned in the Boston 1979 thread, but later he would "make it cry and sing" through the guitar. That was where a lot of the energy was released. As the guitar has taken more of a backseat over the years, it's not so strange that reviewers and casual fans find it a bit dull. The large band, and people like Danny, certainly help though. Without them I think this tour would have been sad sight, to be honest. The arena format is just too big for Mark the way he is now. A setting similar to the Hurlingham gig would suit him very well now, I think.
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 13, 2019, 10:09:51 AM
I agree the arena setting is to big for him the way he is now, and the Hurlingham setting is better, but there are always going to be a large number of people who want to see him live, so if he does smaller venues, he may have to do more shows then he does by filling arenas. Another option would be the David Gilmour way, by playing a few shows in big and unique venues, but again the energy level and lack of lights and show Gilmour brings would be an issue. I have a feeling that this is the last full scale tour, even if Mark is not talking about retiring again, but he will always do something live. Only time will tell.
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Post by: jbaent on June 13, 2019, 10:27:03 AM
He needs a big stage, too much musicians...
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on June 13, 2019, 12:17:49 PM
It's interesting to think what the shows would be like in a theatre-sized venue.  When attending the musical recently one of the best things about it was the energy imparted from the cast, something I can't really remember from Mark it's so long now.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: jbaent on June 13, 2019, 12:34:28 PM
It's interesting to think what the shows would be like in a theatre-sized venue.  When attending the musical recently one of the best things about it was the energy imparted from the cast, something I can't really remember from Mark it's so long now.

A MK concert in a place like The Lyecum would be something so great... imagine him playing songs like "Heart full of holes" in a proper place for such type of songs, instead of the damm O2 arena or the NEC, or whatever hangar he is playing it...
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Post by: dustyvalentino on June 13, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
The 96 tour (and NHB in 97 actually) was in theatres and was great.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 13, 2019, 03:40:57 PM
The 96 tour (and NHB in 97 actually) was in theatres and was great.

I think that is the perfect format for Mark. Easier to establish a connection with the audience and makes it a lot more natural to play more intimate, quieter songs.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: 2manyguitars on June 14, 2019, 09:41:31 AM
The only observation I wold make is that the energy from mks music is only part of the equation. Essentially mark is a storyteller and always has been. In in the 'good old days' he did this in a truly unique way with the interplay between voice and guitar. Now he uses a broader pallet.  We all loved the energy, but I was always drawn to the deeper meaning of the songs, the characters and the stories they had to tell....
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 14, 2019, 09:51:09 AM
The only observation I wold make is that the energy from mks music is only part of the equation. Essentially mark is a storyteller and always has been. In in the 'good old days' he did this in a truly unique way with the interplay between voice and guitar. Now he uses a broader pallet.  We all loved the energy, but I was always drawn to the deeper meaning of the songs, the characters and the stories they had to tell....

I would say these days he's a better storywriter than storyteller, if you know what I mean. Before he at least interjected some passion into his vocals.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: 2manyguitars on June 14, 2019, 03:15:14 PM
The only observation I wold make is that the energy from mks music is only part of the equation. Essentially mark is a storyteller and always has been. In in the 'good old days' he did this in a truly unique way with the interplay between voice and guitar. Now he uses a broader pallet.  We all loved the energy, but I was always drawn to the deeper meaning of the songs, the characters and the stories they had to tell....

I would say these days he's a better storywriter than storyteller, if you know what I mean. Before he at least interjected some passion into his vocals.

Life as a musical near 70 year old isn't so much about passion so much as it is about observation. The roots of all marks best songs are his  journalistic observations on people and their struggles, the kind of tales that break your heart. For me that's what its always been about. From the guy walking in the wild west end, through an iffy jazz band, via an appliance store in New York, right through to Speedway, Basil Clyde, Bacon roll off the new album, what makes his song writing so unique seems obvious to me. So from my point of view the perceived absence of stage energy, histrionics, or the lack of a little bit of guitar finesse makes no difference. The stories are still there and they still break my heart.
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Post by: Robson on June 14, 2019, 03:28:43 PM
2manyguitars I think the same:)
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 14, 2019, 03:38:15 PM
The only observation I wold make is that the energy from mks music is only part of the equation. Essentially mark is a storyteller and always has been. In in the 'good old days' he did this in a truly unique way with the interplay between voice and guitar. Now he uses a broader pallet.  We all loved the energy, but I was always drawn to the deeper meaning of the songs, the characters and the stories they had to tell....

I would say these days he's a better storywriter than storyteller, if you know what I mean. Before he at least interjected some passion into his vocals.

Life as a musical near 70 year old isn't so much about passion so much as it is about observation. The roots of all marks best songs are his  journalistic observations on people and their struggles, the kind of tales that break your heart. For me that's what its always been about. From the guy walking in the wild west end, through an iffy jazz band, via an appliance store in New York, right through to Speedway, Basil Clyde, Bacon roll off the new album, what makes his song writing so unique seems obvious to me. So from my point of view the perceived absence of stage energy, histrionics, or the lack of a little bit of guitar finesse makes no difference. The stories are still there and they still break my heart.

Then why bother to pay good money to go to a show? If the performance is not (that) important, then I may just as well listen to the album. Or read the lyrics. He is an artist AND a performer after all.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: 2manyguitars on June 14, 2019, 04:26:19 PM
The only observation I wold make is that the energy from mks music is only part of the equation. Essentially mark is a storyteller and always has been. In in the 'good old days' he did this in a truly unique way with the interplay between voice and guitar. Now he uses a broader pallet.  We all loved the energy, but I was always drawn to the deeper meaning of the songs, the characters and the stories they had to tell....

I would say these days he's a better storywriter than storyteller, if you know what I mean. Before he at least interjected some passion into his vocals.

Life as a musical near 70 year old isn't so much about passion so much as it is about observation. The roots of all marks best songs are his  journalistic observations on people and their struggles, the kind of tales that break your heart. For me that's what its always been about. From the guy walking in the wild west end, through an iffy jazz band, via an appliance store in New York, right through to Speedway, Basil Clyde, Bacon roll off the new album, what makes his song writing so unique seems obvious to me. So from my point of view the perceived absence of stage energy, histrionics, or the lack of a little bit of guitar finesse makes no difference. The stories are still there and they still break my heart.

Then why bother to pay good money to go to a show? If the performance is not (that) important, then I may just as well listen to the album. Or read the lyrics. He is an artist AND a performer after all.

I think you've misunderstood me hunter  :) Of course the performance is important, but it doesn't necessarily need the energy of youth or prime knopfler guitar playing to put across the elements I stated in my previous post. In fact the gravitas of old age can add to those stories in my opinion. Prime live MK was brilliant, flash, amazing, full of energy, but there is far more depth to what he's doing now.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on June 14, 2019, 04:55:29 PM
The only observation I wold make is that the energy from mks music is only part of the equation. Essentially mark is a storyteller and always has been. In in the 'good old days' he did this in a truly unique way with the interplay between voice and guitar. Now he uses a broader pallet.  We all loved the energy, but I was always drawn to the deeper meaning of the songs, the characters and the stories they had to tell....

I would say these days he's a better storywriter than storyteller, if you know what I mean. Before he at least interjected some passion into his vocals.

Life as a musical near 70 year old isn't so much about passion so much as it is about observation. The roots of all marks best songs are his  journalistic observations on people and their struggles, the kind of tales that break your heart. For me that's what its always been about. From the guy walking in the wild west end, through an iffy jazz band, via an appliance store in New York, right through to Speedway, Basil Clyde, Bacon roll off the new album, what makes his song writing so unique seems obvious to me. So from my point of view the perceived absence of stage energy, histrionics, or the lack of a little bit of guitar finesse makes no difference. The stories are still there and they still break my heart.

Then why bother to pay good money to go to a show? If the performance is not (that) important, then I may just as well listen to the album. Or read the lyrics. He is an artist AND a performer after all.

I think you've misunderstood me hunter  :) Of course the performance is important, but it doesn't necessarily need the energy of youth or prime knopfler guitar playing to put across the elements I stated in my previous post. In fact the gravitas of old age can add to those stories in my opinion. Prime live MK was brilliant, flash, amazing, full of energy, but there is far more depth to what he's doing now.

I obviously didn't mean that he needs to replicate the energy of his young or prime years, it would look silly, really. But other artists at about 70 and above, Dylan and Ry Cooder come to mind, still have a certain presence and intensity that I feel Mark doesn't have. And, again, that's why I think the large arenas are so wrong for Mark now. Especially without big screens. I guess we can discuss this forever. At any rate, it's good that Mark is still "out there", but I think things could have been improved.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: superval99 on June 14, 2019, 05:20:51 PM
I saw Dylan when he toured with MK in 2011 in Manchester.    After Mark's part of the show was over and Dylan was on to around his fourth song, lots of the audience started getting up and walking out!  It was almost impossible to know what song he was singing!  I have never seen that happening to MK yet and I hope I never will.   I would like to see him do another tour, but I would hate to see him end up like Dylan, so I hope he does something in more intimate venues in the future with songs that suit him at this stage in his life.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: 2manyguitars on June 14, 2019, 09:52:35 PM
The only observation I wold make is that the energy from mks music is only part of the equation. Essentially mark is a storyteller and always has been. In in the 'good old days' he did this in a truly unique way with the interplay between voice and guitar. Now he uses a broader pallet.  We all loved the energy, but I was always drawn to the deeper meaning of the songs, the characters and the stories they had to tell....

I would say these days he's a better storywriter than storyteller, if you know what I mean. Before he at least interjected some passion into his vocals.

Life as a musical near 70 year old isn't so much about passion so much as it is about observation. The roots of all marks best songs are his  journalistic observations on people and their struggles, the kind of tales that break your heart. For me that's what its always been about. From the guy walking in the wild west end, through an iffy jazz band, via an appliance store in New York, right through to Speedway, Basil Clyde, Bacon roll off the new album, what makes his song writing so unique seems obvious to me. So from my point of view the perceived absence of stage energy, histrionics, or the lack of a little bit of guitar finesse makes no difference. The stories are still there and they still break my heart.

Then why bother to pay good money to go to a show? If the performance is not (that) important, then I may just as well listen to the album. Or read the lyrics. He is an artist AND a performer after all.

I think you've misunderstood me hunter  :) Of course the performance is important, but it doesn't necessarily need the energy of youth or prime knopfler guitar playing to put across the elements I stated in my previous post. In fact the gravitas of old age can add to those stories in my opinion. Prime live MK was brilliant, flash, amazing, full of energy, but there is far more depth to what he's doing now.

I obviously didn't mean that he needs to replicate the energy of his young or prime years, it would look silly, really. But other artists at about 70 and above, Dylan and Ry Cooder come to mind, still have a certain presence and intensity that I feel Mark doesn't have. And, again, that's why I think the large arenas are so wrong for Mark now. Especially without big screens. I guess we can discuss this forever. At any rate, it's good that Mark is still "out there", but I think things could have been improved.

I suppose its just what you like really. What I saw from the 2 shows in London was definitely the 'best' mark I've ever seen and I truly wish I could get to more shows.
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on June 23, 2019, 04:35:13 PM
My full concert video is up  :thumbsup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPWNsrP6K9s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPWNsrP6K9s)
Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: PensaGhost on June 27, 2019, 06:28:07 PM
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Title: Re: #28 DTRW TOUR - June 11 2019 - Ericsson Globe, Stockholm, Sweden #SPOILER#
Post by: Solid Rock on June 27, 2019, 07:40:45 PM
My full concert video is up  :thumbsup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPWNsrP6K9s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPWNsrP6K9s)

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