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Title: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre,Kansas City, MO, US
Post by: allen on August 23, 2019, 08:29:14 AM
DTRW TOUR 2019 [C 67] USA/Canada leg 10
(https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6793.0;attach=3562)

VENUE & LATEST TICKET INFO
Location:- http://www.arvestbanktheatre.com/
Buy Tickets:- https://www.axs.com/events/363759/mark-knopfler-tickets
Clock @ Weather: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/kansas-city

DIARIES
Guy Fletcher D.T.R.W. tour Diary: http://guyfletcher.co.uk/2019-u-s-tour-diary
Richard Bennett Notes from the Road: https://www.richard-bennett.com/notes-from-the-road

A.M.I.T. HUB
Who’s going where?: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6400.0
Tickets : sale / exchange / wanted: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=48.0
Pre-concert meetings: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=49.0

PREVIOUS/NEXT MARK KNOPFLER Concert
Previous concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7149.0
Next Concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7151.0

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29 songs were played on the 2015 tour
22 songs yet played on this tour

SET LIST
Why Aye Man
Corned Beef City
Sailing to Philadelphia
Once Upon a Time in the West
Romeo and Juliet
My Bacon Roll
Matchstick Man
Done With Bonaparte
Heart Full of Holes
Your Latest Trick
Postcards From Paraguay
On Every Street
Speedway at Nazareth
Money for Nothing
Going Home: Theme of the Local Hero
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 11:34:05 AM
Same short set than in Indianapolis.

Looks like MK is looking forward the end of this tour very much... Having three options to add songs to the encores, like piper, brothers or so far away, two songs never performed like trapper and back dance floor, and one song he already played like nobody does that, this repetitive 15 short songs set looks a little like: "let's do it as quick as we can, back to the hotel, and a day less to finish“
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: qjamesfloyd on August 29, 2019, 12:03:36 PM
I really don't think that is the case, if that was the case why would he tour at all? he knows what touring is like, he has done it for decades, so it's nothing new, this tour is no where near as long and demanding as the Brothers In Arms tour, where from the video clips, you can see he exhausted. I bet in that tour he couldn't wait for it to end, but this one, I'm not so sure, as this could be his last one, I am sure he wants to enjoy it as much as he can.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: ds1984 on August 29, 2019, 01:03:10 PM
Same short set than in Indianapolis.

Looks like MK is looking forward the end of this tour very much... Having three options to add songs to the encores, like piper, brothers or so far away, two songs never performed like trapper and back dance floor, and one song he already played like nobody does that, this repetitive 15 short songs set looks a little like: "let's do it as quick as we can, back to the hotel, and a day less to finish“

How long is the show?

Mark plays for nearly two hours so even "if it is a 15 songs  set only" that is still  a common length. Some singers only provide for 1h30 or even less so Mark has found his drive for the tour no more no less.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: hunter on August 29, 2019, 01:28:14 PM
Same short set than in Indianapolis.

Looks like MK is looking forward the end of this tour very much... Having three options to add songs to the encores, like piper, brothers or so far away, two songs never performed like trapper and back dance floor, and one song he already played like nobody does that, this repetitive 15 short songs set looks a little like: "let's do it as quick as we can, back to the hotel, and a day less to finish“

How long is the show?

Mark plays for nearly two hours so even "if it is a 15 songs  set only" that is still  a common length. Some singers only provide for 1h30 or even less so Mark has found his drive for the tour no more no less.


How much time does he spend on the retirement speech, band intro and "choosing encores"? 15 minutes?
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 01:40:23 PM
Same short set than in Indianapolis.

Looks like MK is looking forward the end of this tour very much... Having three options to add songs to the encores, like piper, brothers or so far away, two songs never performed like trapper and back dance floor, and one song he already played like nobody does that, this repetitive 15 short songs set looks a little like: "let's do it as quick as we can, back to the hotel, and a day less to finish“

How long is the show?

Mark plays for nearly two hours so even "if it is a 15 songs  set only" that is still  a common length. Some singers only provide for 1h30 or even less so Mark has found his drive for the tour no more no less.


How much time does he spend on the retirement speech, band intro and "choosing encores"? 15 minutes?

I think he spend more time explaining "Matchstick" that playing it...
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 02:22:22 PM
I really don't think that is the case, if that was the case why would he tour at all? he knows what touring is like, he has done it for decades, so it's nothing new, this tour is no where near as long and demanding as the Brothers In Arms tour, where from the video clips, you can see he exhausted. I bet in that tour he couldn't wait for it to end, but this one, I'm not so sure, as this could be his last one, I am sure he wants to enjoy it as much as he can.

Yes. I can see that he wants to enjoy this 15 same songs as much as he can, despite the fact he has some more he can play but, this 15 songs... are so much perfect, such a joy, why spoil it expanding it to 16 or 17...

Nah, the sooner it finish, the sooner he gets to the hotel.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: kaleo74 on August 29, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
WE had the same set of songs here in Montreal.

To be honest, at the end of the show I was disappointed that he didn't play more songs but then I thought, listen:
1- the guy is 70 years old
2- the show lasted 2 hours
3- playing 2 hours without a break, hat off, sir !
4- At a certain age, the frantic rhythm of the tour between the airports, concert halls and hotels within 24 hours must be horrible for some of the guys in the whole team (musicians, tech, management...)
As Mark says, you really have to like doing what you do.  :clap

So, for me, it's "thank you Mark for coming to Montreal"  :)
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: superval99 on August 29, 2019, 03:02:10 PM
WE had the same set of songs here in Montreal.

To be honest, at the end of the show I was disappointed that he didn't play more songs but then I thought, listen:
1- the guy is 70 years old
2- the show lasted 2 hours
3- playing 2 hours without a break, hat off, sir !
4- At a certain age, the frantic rhythm of the tour between the airports, concert halls and hotels within 24 hours must be horrible for some of the guys in the whole team (musicians, tech, management...)
As Mark says, you really have to like doing what you do.  :clap

So, for me, it's "thank you Mark for coming to Montreal"  :)

I am always really grateful that I can see him, especially on this tour when his health is not so good.   I get tired if I attend more than two concerts in a row and I'm only in the audience!   Mark has to be there for every concert, whether he feels tired or even ill.  There is no-one to take his place if he loses his voice, has an upset stomach or worse, as happened in 2010.  The band can manage if one of them falls ill, but it would be nigh impossible if MK was very ill on tour!   I never take him for granted.   

Apart from that, it would be nice to have a few more options with songs so it doesn't become so repetitive after a few concerts, especially for those attending multiple shows.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: dmg on August 29, 2019, 03:14:51 PM
WE had the same set of songs here in Montreal.

To be honest, at the end of the show I was disappointed that he didn't play more songs but then I thought, listen:
1- the guy is 70 years old
2- the show lasted 2 hours
3- playing 2 hours without a break, hat off, sir !
4- At a certain age, the frantic rhythm of the tour between the airports, concert halls and hotels within 24 hours must be horrible for some of the guys in the whole team (musicians, tech, management...)
As Mark says, you really have to like doing what you do.  :clap

So, for me, it's "thank you Mark for coming to Montreal"  :)

Fair points there.  We should remember that North America is VAST and travelling alone is the most tiring aspect.  Touring the UK was great for him I think, but now he's travelling huge distances it will take its toll on a man his age.

@Val:  remember the band, including Mark, took ill during 2015 too.  Mark was ill around the Spanish dates.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: superval99 on August 29, 2019, 03:20:44 PM
WE had the same set of songs here in Montreal.

To be honest, at the end of the show I was disappointed that he didn't play more songs but then I thought, listen:
1- the guy is 70 years old
2- the show lasted 2 hours
3- playing 2 hours without a break, hat off, sir !
4- At a certain age, the frantic rhythm of the tour between the airports, concert halls and hotels within 24 hours must be horrible for some of the guys in the whole team (musicians, tech, management...)
As Mark says, you really have to like doing what you do.  :clap

So, for me, it's "thank you Mark for coming to Montreal"  :)

Fair points there.  We should remember that North America is VAST and travelling alone is the most tiring aspect.  Touring the UK was great for him I think, but now he's travelling huge distances it will take its toll on a man his age.

@Val:  remember the band, including Mark, took ill during 2015 too.  Mark was ill around the Spanish dates.

Yes, I do remember that, but it could have been much worse if MK was completely incapacitated and it could easily have happened in 2010!
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
One very important thing.

We don't travel like he travels. For us attending two concerts is tiring as we do everything ourselves, we drive, take trains or fly in commercial planes etc.

The man is carried along the world in a private plane and drived from the airport to hotels and to the venues.

That examples doesn't work at all.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: kaleo74 on August 29, 2019, 04:07:32 PM
One very important thing.

We don't travel like he travels. For us attending two concerts is tiring as we do everything ourselves, we drive, take trains or fly in commercial planes etc.

The man is carried along the world in a private plane and drived from the airport to hotels and to the venues.

That examples doesn't work at all.

Yes, but the context is different when you're a certain age.
Travelling is part of the package, but the energy is no longer the same as when you are 30 or 40 years old, travelling for days, months, waiting at the borders and customs of several airports, going on stage and singing/playing for 2 hours, which means staying focused on your texts and instruments, "and crazy fans  ;D" then after the concert taking the opposite path, omg I am tired.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 04:33:06 PM
Yes, what a hard life...
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: dmg on August 29, 2019, 05:50:19 PM
One very important thing.

We don't travel like he travels. For us attending two concerts is tiring as we do everything ourselves, we drive, take trains or fly in commercial planes etc.

The man is carried along the world in a private plane and drived from the airport to hotels and to the venues.

That examples doesn't work at all.

Granted, but he still struggles to get out of the Mercedes S-Class!  ;D
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 29, 2019, 06:15:45 PM
I think it's a case of just be very grateful the master is playing 'Live' at all....after all this could well be your lot??!! :disbelief
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: ds1984 on August 29, 2019, 07:45:11 PM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: Robson on August 29, 2019, 07:51:09 PM
Knopflerfan


ds1984

 :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: hunter on August 29, 2019, 07:58:12 PM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.


Except for health issues, there is no reason why a wealthy person like Mark should be in poor shape. Before a long tour he ought to spend a few months getting fit. And work on his guitar chops.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: superval99 on August 29, 2019, 08:10:39 PM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.


Except for health issues, there is no reason why a wealthy person like Mark should be in poor shape. Before a long tour he ought to spend a few months getting fit. And work on his guitar chops.

Obviously he does have health issues and we are not privy to what they are, but maybe what is wrong with him is preventing him getting fit.  I'm sure he would if he could!   Being wealthy doesn't mean you can avoid ill health.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 08:21:05 PM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.

Yes.

It's very hard, like wsking up at 5 in the morning for 11 months per year to work hard during between 8 and 10 hours per day, 5 days per week, often traveling two hours per day just to get to work and back home, until you are 68 years old and can retire, if lucky.

Yes, it's so hard.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 08:23:40 PM
I think it's a case of just be very grateful the master is playing 'Live' at all....after all this could well be your lot??!! :disbelief

With this I agree. He does it because he wants to. But as Yoda said, if you are gonna do it, do it right, don't try.

Lol
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: ds1984 on August 29, 2019, 09:05:01 PM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.

Yes.

It's very hard, like wsking up at 5 in the morning for 11 months per year to work hard during between 8 and 10 hours per day, 5 days per week, often traveling two hours per day just to get to work and back home, until you are 68 years old and can retire, if lucky.

Yes, it's so hard.

I was waiting for that sort of answer.

Just that making life of the exhausted worker better (or worse!) won't change anything in the fact that touring is physically and mentally demanding. They both are each of their own.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2019, 09:54:13 PM
All works are demanding on their own. But some of them enjoy so much luxury that demanding has another very different meaning. Much lighter.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: pitx on August 29, 2019, 10:46:37 PM
the time between sound check and show, Graeme and Tom wandered round the city in search of the grave of Charlie Parker, Tom send me a couple of the pics they took illustrating the city’s devotion to the legacy of that era. It must have been quite a scene back then. Mark wrote a song about it intended for the last album which remains an unreleased gem.
http://guyfletcher.co.uk/28th-august-2019-kansas-city-mo/
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: Stiglar on August 30, 2019, 01:45:10 AM
Touring is hard! I've done tours before and it's exhausting. Granted not in the same luxury as mark, I can only imagine even in luxury conditions, at the age of 70 it would be absolutely draining. Marks (i'm guessing) back problems also would make the shows pretty exhausting. Surely he would be on pain meds not to mention physio therapy? Even doing 3 gigs a week and driving 20 minutes from my house i'm pretty tired by the end of those nights and i'm half the age of mark.

He keeps the setlist static to play to his strengths and keep it predictable. He has to shorten the set sometimes when he's not feeling up to it. I think that's perfectly justified.



Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: hunter on August 30, 2019, 03:10:57 AM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.


Except for health issues, there is no reason why a wealthy person like Mark should be in poor shape. Before a long tour he ought to spend a few months getting fit. And work on his guitar chops.

Obviously he does have health issues and we are not privy to what they are, but maybe what is wrong with him is preventing him getting fit.  I'm sure he would if he could!   Being wealthy doesn't mean you can avoid ill health.


Absolutely, and that's why I said "except for health issues".
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: Lis on August 30, 2019, 05:37:54 AM
... then why say anything?
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: skydiver on August 30, 2019, 08:03:27 AM
Touring is hard! I've done tours before and it's exhausting. Granted not in the same luxury as mark, I can only imagine even in luxury conditions, at the age of 70 it would be absolutely draining. Marks (i'm guessing) back problems also would make the shows pretty exhausting. Surely he would be on pain meds not to mention physio therapy? Even doing 3 gigs a week and driving 20 minutes from my house i'm pretty tired by the end of those nights and i'm half the age of mark.

He keeps the setlist static to play to his strengths and keep it predictable. He has to shorten the set sometimes when he's not feeling up to it. I think that's perfectly justified.

Please don't tell those of the reality of touring who daily hammer their negativity on Mark.
It would severely threaten their illusions of negativity.
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 30, 2019, 08:34:50 AM
the time between sound check and show, Graeme and Tom wandered round the city in search of the grave of Charlie Parker, Tom send me a couple of the pics they took illustrating the city’s devotion to the legacy of that era. It must have been quite a scene back then. Mark wrote a song about it intended for the last album which remains an unreleased gem.
http://guyfletcher.co.uk/28th-august-2019-kansas-city-mo/

Could it be the "Back in the day" famous unreleased song?

I didn't analysed the lyrics of it so I don't know...
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: jbaent on August 30, 2019, 09:19:24 AM
the time between sound check and show, Graeme and Tom wandered round the city in search of the grave of Charlie Parker, Tom send me a couple of the pics they took illustrating the city’s devotion to the legacy of that era. It must have been quite a scene back then. Mark wrote a song about it intended for the last album which remains an unreleased gem.
http://guyfletcher.co.uk/28th-august-2019-kansas-city-mo/

Could it be the "Back in the day" famous unreleased song?

I didn't analyzed the lyrics of it so I don't know...

Yes, must be BACK IN THE DAY, see the highlighted lyrics:

"Back In The Day"

You had to know what you were doing
Up on the band
Nobody lining up
To come give you a hand
No way could you fake it

At 18th and Vine
And we could really put the sauce on it
We'd do it all the time

We was hot as smokin' pistols
Chopping everybody down

Swinging like dogs, man
Kings of the town

There'd be a cutting contest
You had to do your research
I'd pull out a lick or two
From Saturday night church
Yeah, you'd maybe get to try
A couple things you learned
But you had to do your homework
'Cause a gig was earned

When swing turned into bebop
It was all going on
Blowing all night
On past the dawn
I might play all day
I might play all night

Whatever made you stronger, baby
That was alright
Yeah, you'd maybe get to try
A couple things you'd learned
But you had to know your business
'Cause everybody burned

Well a beer was a nickel
A whiskey was a dime
They'd come to Kansas City
See the girls on Vine
Might get a hot shot
Wanna bring along his horn
We liked to clean 'em up
And head 'em back where they belong
So long

But it's just the old malarkey
That'll wear you down
Some people are the pits, man
There's always some around
Some will take advantage
If they can
It's the old baloney sandwich
You dig me, man?
I'm talking about a time
When every man could play
But that's the way it was
Back in the day
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: dmg on August 30, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.


Except for health issues, there is no reason why a wealthy person like Mark should be in poor shape. Before a long tour he ought to spend a few months getting fit. And work on his guitar chops.

Obviously he does have health issues and we are not privy to what they are, but maybe what is wrong with him is preventing him getting fit.  I'm sure he would if he could!   Being wealthy doesn't mean you can avoid ill health.

Very true Val.  Proving our health is more valuable than all the money in the world.  A Mercedes S-Class and private jet can ease the pain though!
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: superval99 on August 30, 2019, 12:11:29 PM
Yes, what a hard life...

Sarcasms.

You truly think that this is easy and enjoyable because he's doing it with luxury condition but truth is that touring for months is very demanding especially when your are not in great shape.


Except for health issues, there is no reason why a wealthy person like Mark should be in poor shape. Before a long tour he ought to spend a few months getting fit. And work on his guitar chops.

Obviously he does have health issues and we are not privy to what they are, but maybe what is wrong with him is preventing him getting fit.  I'm sure he would if he could!   Being wealthy doesn't mean you can avoid ill health.

Very true Val.  Proving our health is more valuable than all the money in the world.  A Mercedes S-Class and private jet can ease the pain though!

Wise words, dmg!   :)
Title: Re: #67 DTRW TOUR - Aug 28 2019 - Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland,Kansas City, US
Post by: milicz on August 31, 2019, 04:33:16 AM
My odds of seeing BIA have increased 10 fold, seeing him in Milwaukee and Chicago.