A Mark In Time
General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: PensaGhost on August 27, 2019, 12:54:43 AM
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Stunning Stuff
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I am hearing it includes
bluray
- disc 1 documentaries * unreleased material
- disc 2 unreleased live films * music videos * concert screen films
- disc 3 Venice concert 1989 * Knebworth concert 1990
- disc 4 pulse remixed & restored
- disc 5 delicate sound of thunder remixed & restored
- disc 6 surround & hi-res mixes
6 dvds same as 6 blurays, 12 total
- tour program 1994
- tour program 1987/1988
- tour program 1989
and many more things
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More Info
CDs:
CD 1: A Momentary Lapse of Reason Remixed & Updated (new Mason drum tracks re-recorded + Wright keys taken from some concerts multitracks)
CD 2: Delicate Sound of Thunder Remixed, Part 1 (with full original set list including One Slip, Welcome to the Machine and all the missing ones in the original official release)
CD 3: Delicate Sound of Thunder Remixed, Part 2
CD 4: Live unreleased / studio / demo Recordings (including some “Big Spliff” unreleased material and - maybe - “Peace Be With You”)
CD 5: Knebworth Concert 1990 (full, including The Great Gig)
BluRay Discs:
BR 1: Surround & Hi-Res Audio Mixes
BR 2: Delicate Sound of Thunder Restored & Remixed
BR 3: Pulse Restored and Re-Edited
BR 4: Venice Concert 1989 / Knebworth Concert 1990
BR 5: Unreleased Live Films, Music Videos & Concert Screen Films
BR 6: Documentaries and Unreleased Materials (including full unreleased “Endless river” film - full album with a never before seen full visual movie)
DVDs:
DVD 1: Delicate Sound of Thunder Restored & Remixed
DVD 2:Pulse Restored and Re-Edited
DVD 3: Venice Concert 1989 / Knebworth Concert 1990
DVD 4: Unreleased Live Films, Music Videos & Concert Screen Films
DVD 5: Documentaries and Unreleased Materials
Vinyl singles:
1: Lost For Words (censored clean edit)
2: Arnold Layne (unreleased live 2007 - last Wright performance)
Memorabilia:
- 4 tour programs
- posters
- stickers
- tickets replica
- pass replica
Books:
- lyric book
- photos/visual book
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This is great stuff, but what needs to be "restored" in Pulse?
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This is great stuff, but what needs to be "restored" in Pulse?
I think there were complaints that the camera shots were not as good on the DVD as on the old VHS...
I hope the added "Hey you" and "Maroon", which are sorely missing from the DVD.
Anyway, to be honest I would rather have a box set on Meddle and Animals, or a proper one on the Wall with 1980/81 videos, rather than this waterless recent stuff... My 2 cents.
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I'd like to buy it but price is "ouch"
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I'd like to buy it but price is "ouch"
it seems there will be also a very reduced edition 2LP + 2CD only which should have
an unheard version of Shine On, unheard Marooned Jam (should be pretty long), unheard early demo of High Hopes
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This is great stuff, but what needs to be "restored" in Pulse?
I think there were complaints that the camera shots were not as good on the DVD as on the old VHS...
I hope the added "Hey you" and "Maroon", which are sorely missing from the DVD.
Anyway, to be honest I would rather have a box set on Meddle and Animals, or a proper one on the Wall with 1980/81 videos, rather than this waterless recent stuff... My 2 cents.
Roger Waters has confirmed there is a 5.1 surround version of Animals coming soon. I hope they include the 8 track version of Pigs On The Wing Pt 1 and 2 with the Snowy White guitar solo joining the 2 parts.
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Interesting stuff, let's see what finally includes and the price of the dvd version
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This is great stuff, but what needs to be "restored" in Pulse?
I think there were complaints that the camera shots were not as good on the DVD as on the old VHS...
I hope the added "Hey you" and "Maroon", which are sorely missing from the DVD.
Anyway, to be honest I would rather have a box set on Meddle and Animals, or a proper one on the Wall with 1980/81 videos, rather than this waterless recent stuff... My 2 cents.
Roger Water has confirmed there is a 5.1 surround version of Animals coming soon. I hope they include the 8 track version of Pigs On The Wing Pt 1 and 2 with the Snowy White guitar solo joining the 2 parts.
Yeah, I hope too :)
Frankly, this would be more interesting that this overpriced (too) recent stuff.
Still, a BR improved version of Pulse is interesting. I hope they coud sell it separately.
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This is great stuff, but what needs to be "restored" in Pulse?
I think there were complaints that the camera shots were not as good on the DVD as on the old VHS...
I hope the added "Hey you" and "Maroon", which are sorely missing from the DVD.
Anyway, to be honest I would rather have a box set on Meddle and Animals, or a proper one on the Wall with 1980/81 videos, rather than this waterless recent stuff... My 2 cents.
Roger Water has confirmed there is a 5.1 surround version of Animals coming soon. I hope they include the 8 track version of Pigs On The Wing Pt 1 and 2 with the Snowy White guitar solo joining the 2 parts.
That exists, in a Snowy White record. I have that version somewhere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFY171Ui7gI
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expensive yes, but then again, i also bought the early years. and i did get into Floyd with the waterless music, first Delicate sound of thunder, then all the rest.
would love to hear the missing songs from that, the marooned jam etc..
most importantly, when will our very own Marky EVER do something similar?
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This is great stuff, but what needs to be "restored" in Pulse?
I think there were complaints that the camera shots were not as good on the DVD as on the old VHS...
I hope the added "Hey you" and "Maroon", which are sorely missing from the DVD.
Anyway, to be honest I would rather have a box set on Meddle and Animals, or a proper one on the Wall with 1980/81 videos, rather than this waterless recent stuff... My 2 cents.
Roger Water has confirmed there is a 5.1 surround version of Animals coming soon. I hope they include the 8 track version of Pigs On The Wing Pt 1 and 2 with the Snowy White guitar solo joining the 2 parts.
That exists, in a Snowy White record. I have that version somewhere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFY171Ui7gI
Yes, I know it is on a Snowy White album, but it has not had an official Pink Floyd release, so I am hopefull.
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expensive yes, but then again, i also bought the early years. and i did get into Floyd with the waterless music, first Delicate sound of thunder, then all the rest.
would love to hear the missing songs from that, the marooned jam etc..
most importantly, when will our very own Marky EVER do something similar?
yeah imagine,
- Dire straits early years (1977-1983) 12 dvd + 17 cds
- Dire straits later years (1984 -1993) idem (complete ont the night etc...)
- MK side projects ultimate box (unheard sessions NHB / Chet / collaborations
- MK solo early / middle / later complete deluxe ultimate bonus box
Ok I'll stop there but just imagine :P
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expensive yes, but then again, i also bought the early years. and i did get into Floyd with the waterless music, first Delicate sound of thunder, then all the rest.
would love to hear the missing songs from that, the marooned jam etc..
most importantly, when will our very own Marky EVER do something similar?
yeah imagine,
- Dire straits early years (1977-1983) 12 dvd + 17 cds
- Dire straits later years (1984 -1993) idem (complete ont the night etc...)
- MK side projects ultimate box (unheard sessions NHB / Chet / collaborations
- MK solo early / middle / later complete deluxe ultimate bonus box
Ok I'll stop there but just imagine :P
I almost fainted... :) gosh that woud be cool !
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I can't stop laughing!!!!
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As great as Mark is / DS were, Pink Floyd / DG / RW are bigger. Much bigger market for a Pink Floyd box. At least so I think.
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As great as Mark is / DS were, Pink Floyd / DG / RW are bigger. Much bigger market for a Pink Floyd box. At least so I think.
From potential sales point of view yes but "Dire Straits" brand remains quite big to allow releasing some archive series.
A "Wembley Arena July 10" release celebrating the BIA tour would be a good opportunity to cash on.
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As great as Mark is / DS were, Pink Floyd / DG / RW are bigger. Much bigger market for a Pink Floyd box. At least so I think.
surely, but if they can sell an MK 100 euro box for each new album which basically includes almost nothing interesting
they can sell a DS box easily, just need to price it lower than the Pink Floyd ones, like 150-200 vs 400-450
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I can't stop laughing!!!!
I know it's very unlikely while MK decides.
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Official announcement has already taken place:
http://thelateryears.pinkfloyd.com/
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Wow... What a price
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There are various versions you can buy, most with clothing!! there is a highlight CD priced at 11:99 GBP with some unreleased stuff and remixed tracks etc. I expect the boxed set to be released in smaller versions like The Early Years was.
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Official announcement has already taken place:
http://thelateryears.pinkfloyd.com/
Thank you :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Box price has fallen pretty much to 'only' 334 euros, initially it was 550 and few weeks ago 450
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Box price has fallen pretty much to 'only' 334 euros, initially it was 550 and few weeks ago 450
To make you think "finally it is affordable" 330 euros basically for 4 concerts and 2 studio album on multiple support :think
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Sorrow official remix out at 18:00 (17:00 for UK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LbAz9Dn_w
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Box price has fallen pretty much to 'only' 334 euros, initially it was 550 and few weeks ago 450
To make you think "finally it is affordable" 330 euros basically for 4 concerts and 2 studio album on multiple support :think
Exactly...
It's true that there are some dvds and blurays but if you sum the price of them individually with the price of the cds individually...
Same goes with MK boxes which end being expensive too, if you sum individually what the box has...
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Box price has fallen pretty much to 'only' 334 euros, initially it was 550 and few weeks ago 450
To make you think "finally it is affordable" 330 euros basically for 4 concerts and 2 studio album on multiple support :think
If Knopfler box set cost this much never mind multiple support, I'd be on life support!
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Just listened to High Hopes (Early Version 1994 recording)
very interesting,
final solo with electric guitar not the usual slide,
different middle solo with classic guitar,
different words of the lyrics,
different way of singing some parts, very dismal
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here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8RZHLOGZCE
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here it is
Thx for sharing, it's impressive how things can be different, if I may quote Mark when he said that using a different instrument makes you play differently, I love this version too, it sounds like early PF albums, it's almost raw and dry, straightforward.
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In the single cd edition for "the later years" Danny Cummings is credited for percussion, in the studio versions of "a momentary lapse of reason" songs.
He wasn't credited in the original record!
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In the single cd edition for "the later years" Danny Cummings is credited for percussion, in the studio versions of "a momentary lapse of reason" songs.
He wasn't credited in the original record!
Do we know if he did some re-re especially for this project?
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Danny is credited on One Slip 2019 Remix, since he is not mentioned on the original 1987 album and he has worked on the last Gilmour's record Rattle That Lock few years ago I guess it's more probable he has done some new work on the remix only
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amazing review here:
https://www.allaboutjazz.com/the-later-years-1987-2019
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This "Later Years" box has mixed feelings for me.
As many of us, because our year of birth, "Momentary" was the first record released by Pink Floyd that we saw released and had the chance to buy on release date, so for many of us, was the first Floyd we heard, it was in my case.
I liked it, and when "The delicate sound of thunder" was released, it was also my first contact with the old Floyd stuff, you know, "wish you were here", "money", "another break in the wall" etc. Then the vhs of that concert came out, the Venice 89 broadcast, Knebworth 90... All those were my first steps into Floyd, the new, and the old.
Then, I started digging in the old stuff, and as soon as I got in my hands records like "Wish you were here", "the wall", "dark side" or "animals", suddenly, "momentary" looked like a stranger... as it wasn't son of the same parents.
With the only exception of "learning to fly", "sorrow", "one slip" and "on the turning away", the rest of songs were like a pale imitation of Pink Floyd, and when I had an original copy in my hand, reading the credits, I discovered why. It was David Gilmour record, with many studio musicians, and some bits of Mason and Wright (as other drummers and keyboardists were credited as well).
"Division Bell" was quite the same to me, but with a high difference. It still sounded very very different, but at the same time was beautiful. Like the Gilmour incarnation of the band really found their own style. I loved this record, and in fact I still do, but the fact that David Gilmour recents solo records (Island and Rattle that lock) sound quite like Division, to me, "Momentary" and "Division" became clearly solo Gilmour records with Floyd members.
I dug more into the old Floyd stuff, became fan of the Barrett record and the next record when Barrett was leaving (just one song by him) and I had the same feeling that with "momentary" when I got to listen "the final cut", another Floyd record that didn't sound Floyd. You only get to understand that record when you listen to Roger Waters's "The prons and cons of hitch hicking".
This "The Later Years" box has as prons the fact that covers the period of the band that made me a fan, but the cons of being the period of the band that after discover the golden years of the band, became a dissapoinment.
However, I would love to have the "Delicate", "Venice" and "Knebworth" dvds with proper image, sound and integrity!
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This "Later Years" box has mixed feelings for me.
As many of us, because our year of birth, "Momentary" was the first record released by Pink Floyd that we saw released and had the chance to buy on release date, so for many of us, was the first Floyd we heard, it was in my case.
I liked it, and when "The delicate sound of thunder" was released, it was also my first contact with the old Floyd stuff, you know, "wish you were here", "money", "another break in the wall" etc. Then the vhs of that concert came out, the Venice 89 broadcast, Knebworth 90... All those were my first steps into Floyd, the new, and the old.
Then, I started digging in the old stuff, and as soon as I got in my hands records like "Wish you were here", "the wall", "dark side" or "animals", suddenly, "momentary" looked like a stranger... as it wasn't son of the same parents.
With the only exception of "learning to fly", "sorrow", "one slip" and "on the turning away", the rest of songs were like a pale imitation of Pink Floyd, and when I had an original copy in my hand, reading the credits, I discovered why. It was David Gilmour record, with many studio musicians, and some bits of Mason and Wright (as other drummers and keyboardists were credited as well).
"Division Bell" was quite the same to me, but with a high difference. It still sounded very very different, but at the same time was beautiful. Like the Gilmour incarnation of the band really found their own style. I loved this record, and in fact I still do, but the fact that David Gilmour recents solo records (Island and Rattle that lock) sound quite like Division, to me, "Momentary" and "Division" became clearly solo Gilmour records with Floyd members.
I dug more into the old Floyd stuff, became fan of the Barrett record and the next record when Barrett was leaving (just one song by him) and I had the same feeling that with "momentary" when I got to listen "the final cut", another Floyd record that didn't sound Floyd. You only get to understand that record when you listen to Roger Waters's "The prons and cons of hitch hicking".
This "The Later Years" box has as prons the fact that covers the period of the band that made me a fan, but the cons of being the period of the band that after discover the golden years of the band, became a dissapoinment.
However, I would love to have the "Delicate", "Venice" and "Knebworth" dvds with proper image, sound and integrity!
same story here, except for the syd barrett fascination.
started collecting all shows that were out there, and came close to having them ALL. except for some of the holy grails guarded by the typical hoarders.
still, Delicate sound was my intro into pf and will always be a favourite. Now on sporify you can hear the difference between the original and the remastered stuff, and it is mindblowing.
am ordering my box today (had hoped to get it as an exceptional xmas present from my girlfriend, but now i am not sure)
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While Dire Straits sleep
Pink Floyd Live at Knebworth 1990 will be released for the first time on CD, double vinyl and digital platforms
on Friday 30th April 2021.
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While Dire Straits sleep
Pink Floyd Live at Knebworth 1990 will be released for the first time on CD, double vinyl and digital platforms
on Friday 30th April 2021.
Also Genesis and Robert Plant are realeasing their Knebworth perfomances for the Record Store Days. But DS are re-releasing "Encores"
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https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/pink-floyd-le-live-a-knebworth-de-1990-sortira-le-30-avril/
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While Dire Straits sleep
Pink Floyd Live at Knebworth 1990 will be released for the first time on CD, double vinyl and digital platforms
on Friday 30th April 2021.
Also Genesis and Robert Plant are realeasing their Knebworth perfomances for the Record Store Days. But DS are re-releasing "Encores"
and even though i already have that, as part of the LY box set, i ordered it again.
silly Dire straits!
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And still more handbags!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guitar.com/news/music-news/roger-waters-david-gilmour-accusation-of-lying-money-liner-notes-animals-pink-floyd/%3famp
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..... and more:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9640549/Pink-Floyds-Roger-Waters-resumes-scathing-attack-David-Gilmour.html
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When it looked like they were in friendly terms again... This time looks like it's David who has ruined the thing. Roger is complaining about being ignored in the PF site from some time.
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to know the truth maybe we should ask alan clark
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to know the truth maybe we should ask alan clark
Is he taking credit for Pink Floyd too now? ;)
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to know the truth maybe we should ask alan clark
Is he taking credit for Pink Floyd too now? ;)
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Maybe ask Chris White.
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And still more handbags!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guitar.com/news/music-news/roger-waters-david-gilmour-accusation-of-lying-money-liner-notes-animals-pink-floyd/%3famp
roger is wrong on the money thing. david was talking about a later re-recording. roger is a twat.musical genius he may be, but a twat nevertheless.
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And still more handbags!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guitar.com/news/music-news/roger-waters-david-gilmour-accusation-of-lying-money-liner-notes-animals-pink-floyd/%3famp
roger is wrong on the money thing. david was talking about a later re-recording. roger is a twat.musical genius he may be, but a twat nevertheless.
You are clearly a Gilmour fan boi so I'm keeping an open mind on this.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/polly-samson-david-gilmour-theater-for-dreamers-interview-1177233/
Gilmour: I’m hoping that I will have an album ready in the next year or two; I’m not that fast.
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And still more handbags!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/guitar.com/news/music-news/roger-waters-david-gilmour-accusation-of-lying-money-liner-notes-animals-pink-floyd/%3famp
roger is wrong on the money thing. david was talking about a later re-recording. roger is a twat.musical genius he may be, but a twat nevertheless.
You are clearly a Gilmour fan boi so I'm keeping an open mind on this.
Between Gilmour and Waters, considering Roger is an ass****, a psyco, a maniac and all words like that you can imagine, I'm with Gilmour.
Actually between Waters or a stone, I'm with the stone. The stone doesn't talks.
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Harsh words. Not acceptable to me.
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Harsh words. Not acceptable to me.
Exactly, that's Roger Waters. Now you get it!
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It's easier to be David Gilmour than Roger Waters. When you're "the voice and guitar of Pink Floyd", as opposed to this crazy guy who left the group. So I think their characters balance out :lol He never had the charisma, the voice, and the chops like David, but man, can he write.
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Roger has a big mouth
David is more well behaved
But sometime the real asshole is not the one you think, so I will avoid to have an opinion.
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It's easier to be David Gilmour than Roger Waters. When you're "the voice and guitar of Pink Floyd", as opposed to this crazy guy who left the group. So I think their characters balance out :lol He never had the charisma, the voice, and the chops like David, but man, can he write.
In my opinion, RW has stronger charisma than DG.
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Roger Waters' albums are very important. The lyrics are about many important things in this world.
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It's easier to be David Gilmour than Roger Waters. When you're "the voice and guitar of Pink Floyd", as opposed to this crazy guy who left the group. So I think their characters balance out :lol He never had the charisma, the voice, and the chops like David, but man, can he write.
In my opinion, RW has stronger charisma than DG.
I think I confused the looks with charisma :lol
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Roger Waters' albums are very important. The lyrics are about many important things in this world.
But he seems to have become so weak as a melodist and or an arranger since The Final Cut.
(only my opinion)
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Roger Waters' albums are very important. The lyrics are about many important things in this world.
But he seems to have become so weak as a melodist and or an arranger since The Final Cut.
(only my opinion)
"Amused to death" is a hell of an album, both musically and lyrically. "What God Wants, part III" features of gorgeous solo by Jeff Beck. "Watching TV" is very moving...
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Roger Waters' albums are very important. The lyrics are about many important things in this world.
But he seems to have become so weak as a melodist and or an arranger since The Final Cut.
(only my opinion)
"Amused to death" is a hell of an album, both musically and lyrically. "What God Wants, part III" features of gorgeous solo by Jeff Beck. "Watching TV" is very moving...
Exactly. And an amazing final...
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Pink Floyd albums were crap after Roger left. Live they still put on a good show.
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Roger Waters' albums are very important. The lyrics are about many important things in this world.
But he seems to have become so weak as a melodist and or an arranger since The Final Cut.
(only my opinion)
"Amused to death" is a hell of an album, both musically and lyrically. "What God Wants, part III" features of gorgeous solo by Jeff Beck. "Watching TV" is very moving...
I gave it another try tonight - almost 30 years after first attemp - and could only stand it for 80 seconds.
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Roger Waters' albums are very important. The lyrics are about many important things in this world.
But he seems to have become so weak as a melodist and or an arranger since The Final Cut.
(only my opinion)
"Amused to death" is a hell of an album, both musically and lyrically. "What God Wants, part III" features of gorgeous solo by Jeff Beck. "Watching TV" is very moving...
I gave it another try tonight - almost 30 years after first attemp - and could only stand it for 80 seconds.
80 seconds is 30% of the first (and introductory) track.
Not exactly what I would call a serious listen... :)
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Pink Floyd albums were crap after Roger left. Live they still put on a good show.
::) ::) ::)
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Roger is a musical genius. Even his last record that is the most boring thing I ever heard has something.
But the person, that's another thing.
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Amused To Death is a fantastic record.
To quote Richard Wright "You have to accept Pink Floyd is not like it was when Roger was in it, but the Pink Floyd is bigger than all of us" Which sums it all up to me. Pink Floyd after Roger cannot be dismissed, there are great songs, and performances from that era.
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It's not the same for non English speaking fans. Pink Floyd were great with Waters lyrics and David music.
Without Roger, lyrics were very different but music was still excellent. For those who don't understand English or understand very little, Pink Floyd after Waters were massive.
Waters sólo records are very weak in the musical side, i ho. Specially the last, is extremely boring.