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Title: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: allen on August 30, 2019, 05:58:01 AM
DTRW TOUR 2019 [C 71] USA/Canada leg 14
(https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6793.0;attach=3566)

VENUE & LATEST TICKET INFO
Location:- https://www.ryman.com/
Buy Tickets:- https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1B005556EB75ADD1
Clock @ Weather: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/nashville

DIARIES
Guy Fletcher D.T.R.W. tour Diary: http://guyfletcher.co.uk/2019-u-s-tour-diary
Richard Bennett Notes from the Road: https://www.richard-bennett.com/notes-from-the-road

A.M.I.T. HUB
Who’s going where?: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6400.0
Tickets : sale / exchange / wanted: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=48.0
Pre-concert meetings: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=49.0

PREVIOUS/NEXT MARK KNOPFLER Concert
Previous concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7153.0
Next Concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7174.0

Buy USB’S of this concert:- https://store.markknopfler.com/down-the-road-wherever-live-2019?utm_source=website&utm_medium=landingpage&utm_campaign=04_25_19&utm_content=dtrw_liveconcerts
29 songs were played on the 2015 tour
22 songs yet played on this tour

SET LIST
Why Aye Man
Corned Beef City
Sailing to Philadelphia
Once Upon a Time in the West
Romeo and Juliet
My Bacon Roll
Matchstick Man
Done With Bonaparte
Heart Full of Holes
Your Latest Trick
Postcards From Paraguay
On Every Street
Speedway at Nazareth
Money for Nothing
Going Home: Theme of the Local Hero
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on August 30, 2019, 06:54:18 AM
This concert is not being sell in the soundboard recordings shop so if anyone attending can record it it would be nice.

In past times MK had guests in this show, who knows if this time he have some too.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: crimmer on September 02, 2019, 07:50:28 PM
looks a cool venue
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: cvstahl on September 03, 2019, 04:41:13 AM
This concert is not being sell in the soundboard recordings shop so if anyone attending can record it it would be nice.

In past times MK had guests in this show, who knows if this time he have some too.

Any reason given as to why this show won’t be offered as a sbd/official recording? They’ve had other Nashville/Ryman shows sold in the past.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 03, 2019, 08:57:17 AM
This concert is not being sell in the soundboard recordings shop so if anyone attending can record it it would be nice.

In past times MK had guests in this show, who knows if this time he have some too.

Any reason given as to why this show won’t be offered as a sbd/official recording? They’ve had other Nashville/Ryman shows sold in the past.

It's not listed at all. Also the Madison Square Garden is not listed. The RAH concerts are listed but says that at the moment they can't sell the recordings but the Ryman and the MSG are not listed at all.

I hope someone could record the Ryman concert just in case MK decides to break a little his stone and invite some guests...
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 03, 2019, 09:44:23 AM
Mark doesn't seem to have a big connection to the Nashville/country scene anymore for some reason. I guess since Chet has passed and he owns his own studio he doesn't have a need to go there and mix with those artists like he used to.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Billy’s Tune on September 04, 2019, 12:16:05 AM
He said on the BBC Johnnie Walker interview in 2015 that he doesn’t go to Nashville any more nor does he recognise this new breed of country music. It’s a far cry from Chet, Cash and Willie Nelson days.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 04, 2019, 08:46:18 AM
I didn't find any info about the setlist nor about any possible guest on stage, but someone in facebook says that John Illsley was there, and Emmylou Harris was spotted.

These two pictures are by Ben Downs, from facebook
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Pierre on September 04, 2019, 10:58:09 AM
nice second picture  :)
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 04, 2019, 11:03:26 AM
nice second picture  :)

Yes, that user posted more in facebook but that one is just perfect!
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: AMARKINTIME on September 04, 2019, 11:53:30 AM
Jbaent said:

"I didn't find any info about the setlist "

1 - Trapper man
2 - Darling pretty
3 - Sailing to Philadelphia
4 - Once upon a time in the west
7 - Silvertown Blues
8 - One world
9 - Back on the danc floor
10 - Romeo and Juliet
11 - Once song at a time
12 - Sultans of swing
13 - Lights of Taormina
14 - Two Young lovers
15 - Solid rock

BIS

15 - Money for nothing

BIS

16 - Brothers in arms
17 - Local hero

BIS

18 - Matchstick Man (Only Knopfler and acoustic guitar).
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 04, 2019, 11:59:35 AM
Jbaent said:

"I didn't find any info about the setlist "

1 - Trapper man
2 - Darling pretty
3 - Sailing to Philadelphia
4 - Once upon a time in the west
7 - Silvertown Blues
8 - One world
9 - Back on the danc floor
10 - Romeo and Juliet
11 - Once song at a time
12 - Sultans of swing
13 - Lights of Taormina
14 - Two Young lovers
15 - Solid rock

BIS

15 - Money for nothing

BIS

16 - Brothers in arms
17 - Local hero

BIS

18 - Matchstick Man (Only Knopfler and acoustic guitar).

You were lucky that your wake up alarm didn't rang until the last encore was played...
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: AMARKINTIME on September 04, 2019, 12:25:08 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: dmg on September 04, 2019, 12:44:43 PM
I like the 2nd picture very much too; a lovely sign of respect for Mark from the band.  I recall Ianto doing this in one of the early shows in Spain after TR and it gave me a nice warm feeling inside! 

Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 04, 2019, 01:03:28 PM
Jbaent said:

"I didn't find any info about the setlist "

1 - Trapper man
2 - Darling pretty
3 - Sailing to Philadelphia
4 - Once upon a time in the west
7 - Silvertown Blues
8 - One world
9 - Back on the danc floor
10 - Romeo and Juliet
11 - Once song at a time
12 - Sultans of swing
13 - Lights of Taormina
14 - Two Young lovers
15 - Solid rock

BIS

15 - Money for nothing

BIS

16 - Brothers in arms
17 - Local hero

BIS

18 - Matchstick Man (Only Knopfler and acoustic guitar).

That would actually be a great set list.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Solid Rock on September 04, 2019, 02:07:54 PM
Setlist.fm

Why Aye Man
Corned Beef City
Sailing to Philadelphia
Once Upon a Time in the West
Romeo and Juliet
My Bacon Roll
Matchstick Man
Done With Bonaparte
Heart Full of Holes
Your Latest Trick
Postcards From Paraguay
On Every Street
Speedway at Nazareth

Encore:
Money for Nothing

Encore 2:
Going Home: Theme of the Local Hero
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: dmg on September 04, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
So does that mean the previous setlist information is incorrect?
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Pierre on September 04, 2019, 04:49:21 PM
So does that mean the previous setlist information is incorrect?

I was kind of hoping ...  :-[    ;D
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: dmg on September 04, 2019, 05:08:44 PM
So does that mean the previous setlist information is incorrect?

I was kind of hoping ...  :-[    ;D

Damn!  :smack

Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 04, 2019, 07:08:24 PM
He had some guests but not on stage...
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: kaleo74 on September 04, 2019, 08:30:23 PM
With Molly Tuttle a Bluegrass artist, songwriter, banjo player and guitarist
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: hunter on September 04, 2019, 08:50:26 PM
Nice pics. Jason Isbell is crazy talented (Molly too), and having Mark play on his album would be fantastic. Or Jason play on Mark's.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: diremark86 on September 04, 2019, 09:29:09 PM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: kaleo74 on September 04, 2019, 10:02:02 PM
Mark's "Nashville" period was very rich and productive, I love this era.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: kaleo74 on September 05, 2019, 03:12:48 AM
Nashville’s notes : http://guyfletcher.co.uk/3rd-september-2019-nashville-tn/

Show guests: Paul Franklin, Vince Gill, Emmylou, Jason Isbel, Tim O’Brien, Chuck Ainlay, David Conrad, Paul Kennerley to name but few.  :clap
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Elin N on September 05, 2019, 09:30:25 AM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....

I really hope he will not! Listened to him once, Paisyleys concert is the only concert ever I had to go further back, it was SO loud that my ears hurt. He really seems to believe that volume and speed were the things that matter. I can't remember a single song; everyone ended with a endless, pointless guitarsolo. Volume and speed might impress men, not women. No thanks  :lol ::) I would much rather see him with EmmyLou Harris again.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 05, 2019, 10:23:51 AM
Must have been an amazingly talented audience. On Instagram, Jason Isbel says "Real blast seeing @markknopfler last night @theryman. About a thousand great guitar players in the audience, and they weren’t disappointed." I wonder who else apart from those mentioned were there?

Molly Tuttle is a brilliant player too, I didn't know she was a fan. This all goes to show the respect that other musicians, young and old have for Mark, especially other guitar players.

Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: superval99 on September 05, 2019, 11:15:42 AM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....

Please, no!    He sounds like another Mike Henderson - too loud!    ::)
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 05, 2019, 11:40:16 AM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....

How do you know Brad has tried?
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: dmg on September 05, 2019, 12:47:38 PM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....

Please, no!    He sounds like another Mike Henderson - too loud!    ::)

One of those who thinks their guitar should be turned up louder than everyone else's.  That's all we need!  ::)
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 05, 2019, 12:48:36 PM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....

Please, no!    He sounds like another Mike Henderson - too loud!    ::)

One of those who thinks their guitar should be turned up louder than everyone else's.  That's all we need!  ::)

more brass, please!
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: AMARKINTIME on September 05, 2019, 06:00:31 PM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....

How do you know Brad has tried?

https://theboot.com/brad-paisley-tried-to-get-mark-knopfler-to-play/

Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Pierre on September 05, 2019, 06:12:54 PM
Nashville’s notes : http://guyfletcher.co.uk/3rd-september-2019-nashville-tn/

Show guests: Paul Franklin, Vince Gill, Emmylou, Jason Isbel, Tim O’Brien, Chuck Ainlay, David Conrad, Paul Kennerley to name but few.  :clap

Imagine the encore jam if MK had invited his guests on stage! The first three mentionned could make any concert become memorable.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: holaknopfler on September 05, 2019, 07:51:09 PM
I absolutely don't get it. So many great people there, and you don't invite them on stage to play a few songs but just play the same setlist you've been playing for a whole tour. Unbelievable.....  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: holaknopfler on September 05, 2019, 08:00:35 PM
It's just plain lazy :thumbsdown
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: PensaGhost on September 05, 2019, 08:39:26 PM
(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69855153_10157458794833149_5884755801460965376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQkpOsP22yIf6b2_DIPcd78ifmBuwYGZZK2XuSguOIHZJfevBXEAiDhHLqrAb4rd_oo&_nc_ht=scontent-mxp1-1.xx&oh=cd9e3027afb734a98f264e52dcbe1e7f&oe=5E13FD5F)
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 05, 2019, 08:47:56 PM
Probably most of them were expecting an invitation...
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 06, 2019, 08:26:06 AM
I really wish Mark would collaborate with Brad Paisley. I know for a fact Brad has tried. That would really be something.....

How do you know Brad has tried?

https://theboot.com/brad-paisley-tried-to-get-mark-knopfler-to-play/

Thanks for the link, another person I didn't know was a fan. Maybe something will happen between them in the future.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 06, 2019, 08:27:36 AM
I absolutely don't get it. So many great people there, and you don't invite them on stage to play a few songs but just play the same setlist you've been playing for a whole tour. Unbelievable.....  ??? ??? ??? ???

Maybe they were happy to just watch the show. And I doubt they would have known Mark's set list before hand anyway, so to them it would have been great.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 06, 2019, 10:00:25 AM
Seems scandalous that Emmylou didn't get to share the stage for at least one number!
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 06, 2019, 10:05:42 AM
I absolutely don't get it. So many great people there, and you don't invite them on stage to play a few songs but just play the same setlist you've been playing for a whole tour. Unbelievable.....  ??? ??? ??? ???

Maybe they were happy to just watch the show. And I doubt they would have known Mark's set list before hand anyway, so to them it would have been great.

when that happened in the past (2001...) they rehearsed the song during soundcheck, but it's needed, obviously, that MK asked them to join him, and now, that doesn't happen. Too much work going out of the comfort zone.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: ds1984 on September 06, 2019, 06:28:08 PM
The guest were there to enjoy a show like any normal person and they were not here to go at work.
Mark has no obligation to ask some of his guest to play with him, we can regret it but using words like "Unbelievable" or "scandalous" is way too much IMHO.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: holaknopfler on September 06, 2019, 06:30:19 PM
The guest were there to enjoy a show like any normal person and they were not here to go at work.
Mark has no obligation to ask some of his guest to play with him, we can regret it but using words like "Unbelievable" or "scandalous" is way too much IMHO.

Matter of interpretation
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 06, 2019, 07:57:45 PM
The guest were there to enjoy a show like any normal person and they were not here to go at work.
Mark has no obligation to ask some of his guest to play with him, we can regret it but using words like "Unbelievable" or "scandalous" is way too much IMHO.

Of course he is not obligated. Thats why he doesn't invite anyone to guest, lol

It's not an obligation but a mattter of enjoy playing live with friends that usually dont play with as they live very far from you and coincide with them is difficult.

It shouldn't be an obligation but a pleasure.

But lazyness is stronger than anything else.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: ds1984 on September 06, 2019, 08:38:39 PM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.


Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 06, 2019, 09:23:47 PM
Which frustration?

Reality.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: 2manyguitars on September 06, 2019, 10:14:32 PM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.

Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Robson on September 06, 2019, 11:14:53 PM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.

Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: holaknopfler on September 06, 2019, 11:51:30 PM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.

Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....

It IS lazy. That's not over the line. He says himself that he is so I don't have a problem quoting that. Besides, if that's already over the line then we should get back to the other forum where you get banned for being critical. I'm always positive, for one time I don't praise the man and its over the line. Please...... And for the record: when have we ever known all the facts regarding to MK? Never. If that's a point then there is zero discussion possible.

Edits: typo
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: 2manyguitars on September 07, 2019, 12:25:28 AM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.



Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....

It IS lazy. That's not over the line. He says himself that he is so I don't have a problem quoting that. Besides, if that's already over the line then we should get back to the other forum where you get banned for being critical. I'm always positive, for one time I don't praise the man and its over the line. Please...... And for the record: when have we ever known all the facts regarding to MK? Never. If that's a point then there is zero discussion possible.

Edits: typo

Apologies if you took offence at what I said.

I'm not trying to stop anyone discussing anything and it's not just your 'Lazy' comment that I was referencing. I'm just saying it's a bit much to call in to question a 70 year old artists motives without really knowing the true extent of his or her situation.

By all means dislike what you hear, what you see,  express opinions, whatever. I just think we all have to remember that it is our choice to listen to and follow any given artist(s), and said individual(s) owe us nothing in return....
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: ds1984 on September 07, 2019, 12:39:57 AM
Which frustration?

Reality.

The one I got in 2013 for example  :think
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: jbaent on September 07, 2019, 08:48:28 AM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.

Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....

The full fact is that he recognized to be lazy over the years.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Mossguitar on September 07, 2019, 09:23:38 AM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.

Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....

The full fact is that he recognized to be lazy over the years.
He is British. It’s not ment literally. It’s an overstatement. He is just being modest.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: holaknopfler on September 07, 2019, 09:34:32 AM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.



Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....

It IS lazy. That's not over the line. He says himself that he is so I don't have a problem quoting that. Besides, if that's already over the line then we should get back to the other forum where you get banned for being critical. I'm always positive, for one time I don't praise the man and its over the line. Please...... And for the record: when have we ever known all the facts regarding to MK? Never. If that's a point then there is zero discussion possible.

Edits: typo

Apologies if you took offence at what I said.

I'm not trying to stop anyone discussing anything and it's not just your 'Lazy' comment that I was referencing. I'm just saying it's a bit much to call in to question a 70 year old artists motives without really knowing the true extent of his or her situation.

By all means dislike what you hear, what you see,  express opinions, whatever. I just think we all have to remember that it is our choice to listen to and follow any given artist(s), and said individual(s) owe us nothing in return....

That last thing is true, too. I find it difficult to see he's getting old and that this probably will be his last big tour  where the opportunities to play with other people are there in front of their feet. Maybe its expectation next to reality  :)
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Knut on September 07, 2019, 09:57:24 AM
If we don't know how well or bad he is, how can we be so sure that he's doing his best? There seems to be some assumptions here that he always does that, and I can't see how we can be so sure when the questions raised here are legitimate. I also wonder where Portobello Belle went, he used to always play it in Ireland. Is it more difficult to play than other songs?

What makes me frustrated is the thought of all the nice versions we could've had if he went with a different route than this "fixed setlist" thing. Especially the ones that are nice songs and not too hard to play. And especially with guests ;)
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: superval99 on September 07, 2019, 10:18:21 AM
I would not say Mark is a lazy person. Not so long ago he was still playing 6 nights in a row.

He may behave on a lower scale than some of us expect from him but nobody here has full knowledge of how well or bad Mark really is despite his Diva aspect.

Frustration is not a good fuel for posting on a forum.

Totally agree.

Having and posting opinions are great, but the accusatory tone, calling someone lazy, when not in possession of the full facts is over the line....

The full fact is that he recognized to be lazy over the years.
He is British. It’s not ment literally. It’s an overstatement. He is just being modest.

I agree.  Mark has always been self-deprecating, including saying he's lazy. At the moment we don't know the full facts of what is wrong with him health-wise.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 09, 2019, 02:40:46 PM
Exactly Val. Mark, has always played down his abilities, that is nothing new, he said in the past that he wouldn't call himself a guitar player!!! But the fact he has written and recorded so many songs in his solo career, that doesn't strike me as someone who is lazy. The only time he has cancelled a tour was because he had an accident on his bike, so, again not lazy. When I get to 70 I will be happy to be lazy.
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: dmg on September 09, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
Exactly Val. Mark, has always played down his abilities, that is nothing new, he said in the past that he wouldn't call himself a guitar player!!! But the fact he has written and recorded so many songs in his solo career, that doesn't strike me as someone who is lazy. The only time he has cancelled a tour was because he had an accident on his bike, so, again not lazy. When I get to 70 I will be happy to be lazy.

I must disagree because he certainly strikes me as being very lazy!  Maybe not in days gone by but in more recent years, especially when you consider music is something he loves and not a chore.  His refusal to rehearse new songs during the tour is one thing.  He could have taken it upon himself to try out more songs from the new album during the break between legs.  He could have played more from the new album instead of falling back on old favourites or play the less difficult new songs.  He doesn't spend so much time practicing playing any more or rehearsing for tours.  Many more examples...
Title: Re: #71 DTRW TOUR - Sep 03 2019 - Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN, United States
Post by: Mossguitar on September 10, 2019, 12:00:17 AM
Exactly Val. Mark, has always played down his abilities, that is nothing new, he said in the past that he wouldn't call himself a guitar player!!! But the fact he has written and recorded so many songs in his solo career, that doesn't strike me as someone who is lazy. The only time he has cancelled a tour was because he had an accident on his bike, so, again not lazy. When I get to 70 I will be happy to be lazy.

I must disagree because he certainly strikes me as being very lazy!  Maybe not in days gone by but in more recent years, especially when you consider music is something he loves and not a chore.  His refusal to rehearse new songs during the tour is one thing.  He could have taken it upon himself to try out more songs from the new album during the break between legs.  He could have played more from the new album instead of falling back on old favourites or play the less difficult new songs.  He doesn't spend so much time practicing playing any more or rehearsing for tours.  Many more examples...
I don’t think that’s because of lazyness at all, but because he chooses to. He seems to be occupied all the time, if you ask me. But with other tings, like making musicals and such. Of course he could have chosen differently, but he is who he is and does what he does.