A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: junkiedoll on February 11, 2020, 01:09:07 PM
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https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/david-knopfler-from-dire-straits-to-playing-his-own-tune/?fbclid=IwAR2tQA84jYhVCISQi7OnXU9ZaorOhn27IklFDV18ylb9KGQogiO-R-A00rM
Some interesting statements (in particular the one that he would like to play with MK again)
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Very nice interview. I think David and Mark would go along very well these days.
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David has been telling for years that he would love to play with his brother again, he sounds honest, but I believe he says that also because he knows that's not gonna happen...
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You’re right, he’s saying it because it won’t happen. And I don’t know what’s the problem here, to be honest...
Some brothers can’t live without each other, some brothers hate each other, these two obviously live knowing about each other’s existence, have a decent amount of respect and even talk occasionally judging by their words. Why they must play together I have no idea. Just because you once were a rhythm guitarist in your brother’s band? I don’t think so.
Tommy Emmanuel recently lost his big brother and all of a sudden got 20 years older. This is an example of brothers struggling to live without each other. But MK and DK certainly are OK with what they have. And both are artistically successful, with MK enjoying 1000 times more fame and success, but that’s life. There’s always someone living better than you. And worse.
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One of the best interviews with him, I really enjoyed it. Musically speaking, it would be great if the brothers played together again, not because he once were a rhythm guitarist in your brother's band, but, exactly for what they did together in the past, both in what is recorded in the first two albums, that unique sound, as well as what they did together before Dire Straits, they have the same musical roots, they lived this experience together when they were discovering music, for the music they did in the past and in the present, that is, enough reasons!
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Still I think they are both cool on their own terms. David had courage to leave and to continue, Mark had courage to “fire” his Bro and as David says in the interview wanted to continue no matter what (and who).
If you’d give an honest look, throughout DS history there was no such thing as a “second guitar player”. All major rhythm parts were either composed or straight up recorded by you know who... Mark had a rhythm guitar player simply because you can’t play two guitars at once. If he could, DS would be a power trio :lol
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The reason for their awkward (at least known to public) relationships is the same reason because they're successful — because somewhere deep they're still little kids and want to fight no matter what. It's actually very good! I know it because my older brother was always ahead of me in everything and I wanted to beat him up!
Don't tell me that Mark, who has recorded numerous guitar parts for artists whom he sometimes never met and made the guest recordings I never listened to again, the guy who recorded 20 takes while doing a little solo over Thomas Dolby's song, don't want to record something for his bro? Maybe his bro never asked, don't you think? Anyway, it's a rivalry and I love that.
With that said, no way they could play DS music together again, however, since both are "looking forward only" type of guys, they can at least create something new together, and for this there's a chance, but extremely small. And honestly I think because MK is not a fan of his brother's material. Can you come up with any other reason?
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The reason for their awkward (at least known to public) relationships is the same reason because they're successful — because somewhere deep they're still little kids and want to fight no matter what. It's actually very good! I know it because my older brother was always ahead of me in everything and I wanted to beat him up!
Don't tell me that Mark, who has recorded numerous guitar parts for artists whom he sometimes never met and made the guest recordings I never listened to again, the guy who recorded 20 takes while doing a little solo over Thomas Dolby's song, don't want to record something for his bro? Maybe his bro never asked, don't you think? Anyway, it's a rivalry and I love that.
With that said, no way they could play DS music together again, however, since both are "looking forward only" type of guys, they can at least create something new together, and for this there's a chance, but extremely small. And honestly I think because MK is not a fan of his brother's material. Can you come up with any other reason?
The reason is that they don't communicate with each other. And, judging by Mark's very cold response in the BBC 2018 interview, they don't even get along.
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The reason is that they don't communicate with each other. And, judging by Mark's very cold response in the BBC 2018 interview, they don't even get along.
Well, you can’t choose your brother, what I can say. You can choose your friends and a wife, tho ;D
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One of the best interviews with him, I really enjoyed it. Musically speaking, it would be great if the brothers played together again, not because he once were a rhythm guitarist in your brother's band, but, exactly for what they did together in the past, both in what is recorded in the first two albums, that unique sound, as well as what they did together before Dire Straits, they have the same musical roots, they lived this experience together when they were discovering music, for the music they did in the past and in the present, that is, enough reasons!
a really nice post.. :clap :clap
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By the way, so funny what David said about ruining Mark's s3x life ;D Maybe that's why Mark fired him because he could never forgive David for doing that he-he
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There had been always the typical brothers rivalry, David had mentioned many times that MK was the kind of brother who wants to have it everything and achieve everything, and he is the younger brother, and that's exactly what happened with them playing in DS, MK wanted to achieve the higher as possible and David just wanted to have a band and play songs, not only playing but also writing songs and that, with MK and command, wasn't going to happen.
But when David left DS, MK and John both played with David on his first record, even MK did a playback playing as rhythmic guitar for David for Italian tv, the problem arrived some years later, when the SOS compilation was released and MK and DS manager, Ed Bicknell, with the OK of MK, managed to leave out David from the royalties of the songs on that compilation where David played. During the firsts years of DS the four members of the band got royalties for being part of the band, and MK had more for being the writer of the songs, and I don't know why as I don't know about laws and less about copyright, royalties etc, Ed and MK left David out and he didn't saw a penny. David took legal actions about that and probably that's where the hugh problem started between them.
After that, there was a piece of news on newspapers about the MK first guitar being auctioned by David, who had that guitar with him as apparently when MK left the parents house, he left the guitar there and didn't care much. The next we knew was that MK used that guitar on many promo pictures of the KTGC record so, MK got back the guitar from David, probably lawyers were in the mix as well...
David said in an interview that they don't talk to each other, except on weddings or funerals, and they say HI to each other, and that's all.
Actually, when they are asked about what happened on DS years they say the same in different ways, that they wanted to pursue their dreams, but their dreams were different, and by what they say nowadays, it looks like both achieved what they wanted, in different levels of success, but both are happy with what they achieved.
But it looks like David is the only one that openly talks about talk again with his brother, play with him etc even he says that it's sad that there are cousins that they don't know each other.
If that happens, I can see easily both brothers playing folk songs, they have similar roots and his music had gone by very similar paths, but with very different levels of quality and creativity, obviously, but nowadays they have lots of points in common musically but it looks like MK is very determinative to avoid his brother.
I also like when I read this David's interview, when he talks so honestly about fighting his own demons and facing all his problems, and the way he says about being happy with what he has, that there are always people who are in a better position that him, but also many that are in worse situation, so he's happy with what he has. It's the same position about how I face life, being happy with what you have and enjoy your life.
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And both brothers live on the south coast of England...
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And both brothers live on the south coast of England...
Well... one of them lives at the south coast of England, the other has a second house there ;) ;D
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And both brothers live on the south coast of England...
and approx 100 miles apart.....
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There had been always the typical brothers rivalry, David had mentioned many times that MK was the kind of brother who wants to have it everything and achieve everything, and he is the younger brother, and that's exactly what happened with them playing in DS, MK wanted to achieve the higher as possible and David just wanted to have a band and play songs, not only playing but also writing songs and that, with MK and command, wasn't going to happen.
But when David left DS, MK and John both played with David on his first record, even MK did a playback playing as rhythmic guitar for David for Italian tv, the problem arrived some years later, when the SOS compilation was released and MK and DS manager, Ed Bicknell, with the OK of MK, managed to leave out David from the royalties of the songs on that compilation where David played. During the firsts years of DS the four members of the band got royalties for being part of the band, and MK had more for being the writer of the songs, and I don't know why as I don't know about laws and less about copyright, royalties etc, Ed and MK left David out and he didn't saw a penny. David took legal actions about that and probably that's where the hugh problem started between them.
After that, there was a piece of news on newspapers about the MK first guitar being auctioned by David, who had that guitar with him as apparently when MK left the parents house, he left the guitar there and didn't care much. The next we knew was that MK used that guitar on many promo pictures of the KTGC record so, MK got back the guitar from David, probably lawyers were in the mix as well...
David said in an interview that they don't talk to each other, except on weddings or funerals, and they say HI to each other, and that's all.
Actually, when they are asked about what happened on DS years they say the same in different ways, that they wanted to pursue their dreams, but their dreams were different, and by what they say nowadays, it looks like both achieved what they wanted, in different levels of success, but both are happy with what they achieved.
But it looks like David is the only one that openly talks about talk again with his brother, play with him etc even he says that it's sad that there are cousins that they don't know each other.
If that happens, I can see easily both brothers playing folk songs, they have similar roots and his music had gone by very similar paths, but with very different levels of quality and creativity, obviously, but nowadays they have lots of points in common musically but it looks like MK is very determinative to avoid his brother.
I also like when I read this David's interview, when he talks so honestly about fighting his own demons and facing all his problems, and the way he says about being happy with what he has, that there are always people who are in a better position that him, but also many that are in worse situation, so he's happy with what he has. It's the same position about how I face life, being happy with what you have and enjoy your life.
That was exactly what accentuated the problems among the brothers, in 1998 when the SOS compilation was released.
I share your whole perspective.
If you’d give an honest look, throughout DS history there was no such thing as a “second guitar player”. All major rhythm parts were either composed or straight up recorded by you know who... Mark had a rhythm guitar player simply because you can’t play two guitars at once. If he could, DS would be a power trio :lol
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If you look closely, you'll notice that even though Mark played most of the second guitar, still, there is David's guitar, the first two albums have his soul too, his guitar and voice are there to make that distinctive chemistry happens, there are ideas of him there, the Lions melody was David's suggestion, the magic happens especially live, when you see the mixture of the two guitars, MK and DK, that unique, indivisible texture. SOS was never the same without David being in a quartet format, compare the groove of the versions of OES tour 81/92, STP tour 2001, SGL tour 2005, KTGC tour 2008 ... In my opinion, David was the best rhythm guitarist who accompanied Mark Knopfler, I'm not talking about multi-instrumentalists like Richard, who even makes arrangements, I'm talking about the role of the rhythm guitarist, in that sense he is what Bruce Welch is for the Shadows, who knows, knows what I mean. The change in sound with the departure of David is drastic, both in the studio, especially live, the same occurred with the departure of Pick.
Anyway, whatever came, be it to rescue some songs from the first two albums of DS, or a new job between a possible partnership between the Knopfler brothers, for me it would be welcome and I believe that for many others too, they have the same musical roots , in that sense they speak the same musical language! :wave