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Title: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 14, 2020, 07:55:48 PM
https://www.markknopfler.com/legendsseries/

Finally a signature guitar one can actually afford! :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: hunter on November 14, 2020, 08:07:13 PM
Well, it's something, but surely for 330 GBP and on a 16GB USB drive they could have made space for uncompressed files?
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: binone on November 14, 2020, 08:48:03 PM
Well, it's something, but surely for 330 GBP and on a 16GB USB drive they could have made space for uncompressed files?

There aren't uncompressed files form 2005-2013 tours. They don't have raw recordings of the mixing that were sold years ago. Difficult to explain, but that´s the real truth. Even, the best of tour compilations they are offering were made by our fellow jbaent.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: hunter on November 14, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
Well, it's something, but surely for 330 GBP and on a 16GB USB drive they could have made space for uncompressed files?

There aren't uncompressed files form 2005-2013 tours. They don't have raw recordings of the mixing that were sold years ago. Difficult to explain, but that´s the real truth. Even, the best of tour compilations they are offering were made by our fellow jbaent.


Wow, I had no idea.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: 2manyguitars on November 14, 2020, 11:49:24 PM
£330 quid! For a 1\4 replica!

Don't know what to say anymore.

Mark looking to corner the vertically challenged and rich market.....
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: PensaGhost on November 15, 2020, 12:25:02 AM
what the hell is this thing ?

is it a joke ?
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: the visitor on November 15, 2020, 12:29:58 AM
You can get these toddler size guitars off ebay for about 35 quid. Including a Les Paul replica 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224099198728

Slightly baffled as to why anyone would want a quarter size guitar.

I suppose compilation is a good idea, if only from three tours.  Still can't help thinking ... just make this available for free you money grabbing ... . Whoever is buying this is likely to be have already ploughed enough money into the Knopfler estate.

Ps Legends Club sounds a bit like a lap dancing venue

Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: hunter on November 15, 2020, 01:07:46 PM

And it looks like a cheap Chinese souvenir. I wouldn't want this if someone gave it to me. Sometimes I wonder who makes these decisions.
(https://www.markknopfler.com/wp-content/themes/markknopfler/images/legends-splash/guitar/guitar-2.png)
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 15, 2020, 01:12:05 PM
Yes, not only it does look bad, it looks nothing like Mark's actual Les Paul! It's too dark, or maybe you're supposed to leave it under the sunlight so it would become lighter colour :think :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: PensaGhost on November 15, 2020, 03:32:49 PM
As a fan I feel mocked

you can't get a real bluray after 25 years or a real sound engineered official live but you can get this stuff,
it's just ridiculous

Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: border_reiver on November 15, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
330 GBP!

This is more outrageous than the price of the Gibson MK Sig LP.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: rmarques821 on November 15, 2020, 05:11:45 PM
Just another episode of legendary trolling by MK's management. Nothing new.
Still waiting for Madrid 2001.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: hunter on November 15, 2020, 06:58:22 PM
And with this covid thing and massive downtime going on, I would think it would be a perfect moment to put together something special. If Mark doesn't want to himself, then put Guy on the task. I'd love an official release of live songs, but all the way back to 1996 and in high quality.


But hey! Mp3s and a toy guitar, what's not to like?  ;D
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Justme on November 15, 2020, 07:11:15 PM
This has to be a joke.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: the visitor on November 15, 2020, 07:57:14 PM
Even cheaper on Amazon



https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TMY9XGZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_KMxSFbA41VX63
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 15, 2020, 08:09:17 PM
Even cheaper on Amazon



https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TMY9XGZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_KMxSFbA41VX63

That one actually looks better :disbelief
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: KnopfleRick on November 15, 2020, 09:11:13 PM
This toy guitar really is a joke. So bad, so bad! What I just want is an album full of live recordings of Mark's solo career. This will help to get all of us through these difficult times. Is this so hard to understand? So bad, so bad!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: vr46mk on November 16, 2020, 07:11:26 AM
This toy guitar really is a joke. So bad, so bad! What I just want is an album full of live recordings of Mark's solo career. This will help to get all of us through these difficult times. Is this so hard to understand? So bad, so bad!

Agree. Have zero interest in this deal  :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: 2manyguitars on November 16, 2020, 09:47:23 AM
What really worries me about this is who exactly does MKs management think their average fan is?

In the UK there used to be a myth surrounding Dire Straits fans that they were all rich Yuppie city types with money to burn. Is this who MK and management think their average fan is?

I for one could never envisage spending this kind of money on something that basically has zero real intrinsic value.

Yours truly, a very sad fan.....
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 16, 2020, 10:01:03 AM
What really worries me about this is who exactly does MKs management think their average fan is?

In the UK there used to be a myth surrounding Dire Straits fans that they were all rich Yuppie city types with money to burn. Is this who MK and management think their average fan is?

I for one could never envisage spending this kind of money on something that basically has zero real intrinsic value.

Yours truly, a very sad fan.....

I don't think there is some kind of master plan involved, pretty sure this was some random agreement between this toy manufacturer, and they wanted to promote tour recordings and so decided to make this 500 items limited edition thing.

I honestly also can't imagine who would buy that for 4.5 Benjamins, though, you can do so much better with this money. You can buy 3 or 4 used Squier Mini Strat guitars for that money which is a playable and a great instrument. Sheesh...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: border_reiver on November 16, 2020, 11:00:53 AM
What MK should do is this...

We all know his story about the strong urge for his first electric guitar. I bet there are thousands of kids today that feel that same urge for their first electric guitar, but many of them may not have wealthy parents. If he teamed up with Epiphone or Squire to create an affordable first MK type of guitar (yes I would think that pretty much zero kids know of MK today unless they have quite the wise parents).

That story and product would be sold for 330 GBP in a heartbeat. Plus he is able to secure his legacy (= more GBPs to the estate) for another one or two generations to come. Also, throw in a small percentage of the proceeds to the Star Foundation (or what's it called).

That's how you sell and market in 2020.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 16, 2020, 11:05:05 AM
The best way to show how pointless this is will be to not buy it, but then even at this price, anyone with the money would think twice, looking at exactly what you are getting!!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Marnix on November 16, 2020, 11:20:55 AM
Does that mean you can also buy again shows from the past tours which aren’t currently available anymore?
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 16, 2020, 12:59:01 PM
330 GBP!

This is more outrageous than the price of the Gibson MK Sig LP.

At least they were an investment, they have gone up in value.

This is a toy, complete joke.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: border_reiver on November 16, 2020, 02:24:23 PM
330 GBP!

This is more outrageous than the price of the Gibson MK Sig LP.

At least they were an investment, they have gone up in value.

This is a toy, complete joke.

Precisely!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: hunter on November 16, 2020, 07:49:55 PM
It looks like it comes straight out of Joe Bonamassa's webstore. JB's got a huge selection of merchandise, and a lot of it looks like the cheap garbage you'd find for sale on beaches in Turkey. It's pretty sad actually.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Elin N on November 17, 2020, 01:48:15 PM
I agree with everything said. How about sending an email to MK.com or PCM and tell them what we feel. They should listen to constructive criticism. I don't know if they will..., but we can try? If we don't say something, they will continue to think things like this is a great idea  ::)
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 17, 2020, 04:29:03 PM
I agree with everything said. How about sending an email to MK.com or PCM and tell them what we feel. They should listen to constructive criticism. I don't know if they will..., but we can try? If we don't say something, they will continue to think things like this is a great idea  ::)

People will buy virtually anything they would come up with, as long as it has fancy candy and seemingly MK-related. To be honest with you, I'm not a fan of almost all MK memorabilia, I never got this whole lithograph idea, I generally don't want someone's face hanging on my wall like faces of celebrities in kid's bedroom. I remember iPhone cases were hilarious, MK is just not too good with all this stuff. Last tour I bought a keyring, the only decent item in the whole shop, and carry it every day. Looks cool.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: PensaGhost on November 17, 2020, 04:47:51 PM
I agree with everything said. How about sending an email to MK.com or PCM and tell them what we feel. They should listen to constructive criticism. I don't know if they will..., but we can try? If we don't say something, they will continue to think things like this is a great idea  ::)

People will buy virtually anything they would come up with, as long as it has fancy candy and seemingly MK-related. To be honest with you, I'm not a fan of almost all MK memorabilia, I never got this whole lithograph idea, I generally don't want someone's face hanging on my wall like faces of celebrities in kid's bedroom. I remember iPhone cases were hilarious, MK is just not too good with all this stuff. Last tour I bought a keyring, the only decent item in the whole shop, and carry it every day. Looks cool.

People will buy virtually anything only if the price is right or close to right

In this case the price is absurd and they won't sell the 500 units at all imo
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on November 17, 2020, 06:18:02 PM
I agree with everything said. How about sending an email to MK.com or PCM and tell them what we feel. They should listen to constructive criticism. I don't know if they will..., but we can try? If we don't say something, they will continue to think things like this is a great idea  ::)

The site has a "contact" section to send them an email, so, feel free...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Elin N on November 17, 2020, 06:47:42 PM
I agree with you quizzaciously, I don't want to put his face up on the wall, or on a t-shirt for that matter. The painting, and then to use it as a phone case, was... I didn't buy it. What I really like are hoodies (preferrably with zip) and t-shirts with nice, clean layout. No tacky wings or motorcyles...Again, look at the new Springsteen merch, it is so nice. I also have the LesPaul silver pendant, and still use it. 

Have already sent a mail to PCM, and they replied within a few hours. We can't expect anything to happen if we don't try  :)
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Robson on November 17, 2020, 07:27:16 PM
I miss the baseball cap. I remember Shangri-La tour. The cap was great :)
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 17, 2020, 08:16:20 PM
I agree with you quizzaciously, I don't want to put his face up on the wall, or on a t-shirt for that matter. The painting, and then to use it as a phone case, was... I didn't buy it. What I really like are hoodies (preferrably with zip) and t-shirts with nice, clean layout. No tacky wings or motorcyles...Again, look at the new Springsteen merch, it is so nice. I also have the LesPaul silver pendant, and still use it. 

Have already sent a mail to PCM, and they replied within a few hours. We can't expect anything to happen if we don't try  :)

To be fair, and knowing how much Mark cares about humility, I don't think that he seriously consider memorabilia at all. I would cringe like crazy to see a mug or a poster with my name (not a concert one though). I know he would even sign these lithographs in bulk, but I don't think he thinks about it any second. People want 'something', so he asks the management to give them 'something'. These things certainly is not a priority, as we can see by the glorious products they offer.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on November 18, 2020, 05:35:08 PM
I agree with you quizzaciously, I don't want to put his face up on the wall, or on a t-shirt for that matter. The painting, and then to use it as a phone case, was... I didn't buy it. What I really like are hoodies (preferrably with zip) and t-shirts with nice, clean layout. No tacky wings or motorcyles...Again, look at the new Springsteen merch, it is so nice. I also have the LesPaul silver pendant, and still use it. 

Have already sent a mail to PCM, and they replied within a few hours. We can't expect anything to happen if we don't try  :)

What they replied?
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 18, 2020, 05:38:14 PM
I agree with you quizzaciously, I don't want to put his face up on the wall, or on a t-shirt for that matter. The painting, and then to use it as a phone case, was... I didn't buy it. What I really like are hoodies (preferrably with zip) and t-shirts with nice, clean layout. No tacky wings or motorcyles...Again, look at the new Springsteen merch, it is so nice. I also have the LesPaul silver pendant, and still use it. 

Have already sent a mail to PCM, and they replied within a few hours. We can't expect anything to happen if we don't try  :)

What they replied?

"Shut up and just pre-order one" :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: morfsta on November 18, 2020, 06:52:16 PM
Isn't the track listing 95% identical to one put together by a forum member - "2019 Compilation - I Should Retire Tour", including the "oe oe's!"?
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 18, 2020, 09:41:28 PM
According to comments on Mark's social media, people loved it and already ordered a bunch. So something's wrong with AMIT, not with MK :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on November 18, 2020, 09:49:14 PM
Isn't the track listing 95% identical to one put together by a forum member - "2019 Compilation - I Should Retire Tour", including the "oe oe's!"?

It's obvious they liked my compilations!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: border_reiver on November 18, 2020, 09:54:24 PM
According to comments on Mark's social media, people loved it and already ordered a bunch. So something's wrong with AMIT, not with MK :lol

I'm always amazed by the people commenting on MK's Facebook page. There's no limit for lunacy that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: PensaGhost on November 19, 2020, 12:54:19 AM
According to comments on Mark's social media, people loved it and already ordered a bunch. So something's wrong with AMIT, not with MK :lol

really ? I actually see a lot of complaints
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 08:23:01 AM
According to comments on Mark's social media, people loved it and already ordered a bunch. So something's wrong with AMIT, not with MK :lol

really ? I actually see a lot of complaints

They saw the price? :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Elin N on November 19, 2020, 09:29:19 AM
I follow the official Mk facebook page, the MK news page and MK fans worldwide -page, and the vast majority of the comments are negative. Only a few says things like "nice, but the prize..". This is the clearest "this is too expensive!" I have read from facebook fans.

The reply from PCM was "This is not a toy, it is handmade, it is a collecors item, we don't expect it to be for everyone" and so on. I didn't expect anything else. But, they replied. I said my opinion, they read it, and replied  :)  I appreciate that it is possible to communicate with them.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on November 19, 2020, 12:32:10 PM
Nice reply, it's surely not something from everyone, but they should start thinking about doing something for everyone...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on November 19, 2020, 12:33:09 PM
According to comments on Mark's social media, people loved it and already ordered a bunch. So something's wrong with AMIT, not with MK :lol

really ? I actually see a lot of complaints

They saw the price? :lol

Some people like those kinds of items... And if they can afford it, why not?
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 12:43:03 PM
To be honest, I find this whole business of signature gutiars and stuff a bit strange. Yes, I'd love an affordable Squier with MK specs, but we'll never get it.

Why an artist would want a signature instrument? If the goal is to inspire people to play guitar, then an affordable version would be of great help. I never understood why someone, if he's an accomplished player, would want to buy an expensive professional instrument built with someone else's specs in mind, it doesn't make any sense. If anything, the player who can justify buying a professional instrument might as well make a signature guitar for himself. Hell, even myself, I have a guitar that I'd make my signature instrument — Squier Mini Strat, I'm just obsessed with the little thing, I love it so much and take it everywhere.

And now, oh my god, we have a signature toy replica of a signature guitar, it blows my mind on so many levels. But whatever, people will buy it anyway as jbaent said.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on November 19, 2020, 01:18:49 PM
I recall there was mentioned Fender were thinking about a Mexican version of the MK strat but it never got to happen as far as I know.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: PensaGhost on November 19, 2020, 02:33:53 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1Q4YNVq/fb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 02:37:37 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1Q4YNVq/fb.jpg)

That's hilarious lol!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 02:52:59 PM
All I know is that all the moaning about MK is seemingly completely useless, I've probably never seen an artist hidden behind a bigger wall than MK. You literally can't get to him in any way, and I'm not talking about getting an autograph or a message or something, just strictly the relationship between fans and the artist. Even Sir Van Morrison is more connected to the fans, but Mark lives on his own planet, which makes him ever so slightly not down to earth at all. He finally broke that wall a little with his radio show, but of course, it lasted not for long. Unfortunately, all the moaning on social media won't take us far in terms of better merchandise or release strategy, because the boss don't want it to happen in the first place.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 19, 2020, 02:58:06 PM
I would say Mike Oldfield is the most private artist I know. Mark has stated many, many times he doesn't like fame, so why are people still so surprised he likes to keep a low profile? If I was in his shoes I would do the same, he is entitled to his privacy if that is what he chooses.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 03:06:09 PM
I would say Mike Oldfield is the most private artist I know. Mark has stated many, many times he doesn't like fame, so why are people still so surprised he likes to keep a low profile? If I was in his shoes I would do the same, he is entitled to his privacy if that is what he chooses.

I think you can stay private and be the most 'high profile' man in the world, I mean fame has probably nothing to do with it, as well as a good release strategy, good marketing, etc. The trouble is that he genuinely doesn't want all that, he fired the man who put "The voice and guitar of Dire Straits" on his albums and who would [probably] make things better in terms of the topic in question but decided to go his way. Which is, unfortunately for us, really is extremely low profile.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 03:11:06 PM
No other manager would justify not having a proper live album for how many years? I lost all counts already. When Mark could do British Grove Studios Live album, countless of other albums, all those beautiful venues he played in, some of which were even recorded, all we have is spontaneous and sometimes poorely edited live recordings, a 2006 live album with Emmylou Harris and a 2009 Prince's Trust show. It's like they thought, that live show recordings = live albums and decided 'nah, that's enough'.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 03:27:44 PM
Mark is extremely lacking in the 'content for fans department' if that's a word. I remember being utterly overwhelmed by the Tracker documentary. It was 5 minutes long or something, but I thought 'Wow, that was amazing!'. Little did I know, that we will barely get more than that and a different Henrik Hansen project which will fall into the development hell. It's not like fans want too much, fans want pretty much basic stuff — some interviews, beautiful shots with his music underneath, nothing too fancy. Releases with more than old tracks in sometimes old clothes, more bonus tracks, more unreleased stuff. Even Radio Show, I thought it would be longer than 3 hours. Mark is like Apple, and I mean the company — you love all the products, but you wish they would do many things differently, their competitors do things much better, but they don't care, they do it their own way, you cry about it in social media, then they do it again. You cry again, then they do it again...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on November 19, 2020, 03:53:54 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1Q4YNVq/fb.jpg)

Some people are just so dumb...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 06:24:04 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1Q4YNVq/fb.jpg)

Some people are just so dumb...

I like how he actually mentioned David, as in he wanted him to actually see it, kudos to David for his reply, makes the whole situation a million times more funny.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 06:29:09 PM
If you go to MK.com now, it has a large poster that says "MARK KNOPFLER LIMITED EDITION 1958 LES PAUL PRE-ORDER NOW AVAILABLE" as if you can pre-order an actual guitar. Reminds me of some posters that reads "DIRE STRAITS" and then in a little font "tribute band".

The funniest part about it is I think that the picture of Mark with guitars here is the most valuable item. The toy guitar is not true to the original and overpriced anyway, live recordings you can buy or download, or ask a friend, certificates worth absolutely nothing, and so the photo is the most interesting item!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: KnopfleRick on November 19, 2020, 07:08:00 PM
Mark has stated many, many times he doesn't like fame, so why are people still so surprised he likes to keep a low profile? If I was in his shoes I would do the same, he is entitled to his privacy if that is what he chooses.

Exactly!  :thumbsup
And despite all the fame and fortune he has gained over the years, his attitude toward fame has never changed.
I`ve always admired Mark Knopfler not only for his incredible musical talent and songwriting but also for his strength of character. And always will.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 07:12:13 PM
Mark has stated many, many times he doesn't like fame, so why are people still so surprised he likes to keep a low profile? If I was in his shoes I would do the same, he is entitled to his privacy if that is what he chooses.

Exactly!  :thumbsup
And despite all the fame and fortune he has gained over the years, his attitude toward fame has never changed.
I`ve always admired Mark Knopfler not only for his incredible musical talent and songwriting but also for his strength of character. And always will.

How exactly fame correlates with selling first an overpriced 10,000$ dollar guitar to people, and then selling an overpriced 450$ replica? Or :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: PensaGhost on November 19, 2020, 07:16:44 PM
Mark has stated many, many times he doesn't like fame, so why are people still so surprised he likes to keep a low profile? If I was in his shoes I would do the same, he is entitled to his privacy if that is what he chooses.

Exactly!  :thumbsup
And despite all the fame and fortune he has gained over the years, his attitude toward fame has never changed.
I`ve always admired Mark Knopfler not only for his incredible musical talent and songwriting but also for his strength of character. And always will.

How exactly fame correlates with selling first an overpriced 10,000$ dollar guitar to people, and then selling an overpriced 450$ replica? Or :lol

hehe very good one
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: ds1984 on November 19, 2020, 08:07:34 PM
Well I don't see any correlation between merchandising and fame?

The MK signature Strat although being expensive was still affordable to a lot of people and not a limited run while in production.
The Les Paul is another history.

Regarding live recording well mark allowed almost all his shows to be recorded and sold since 2010.
But the market is limited and is enough place for BOTH a whole tour low quality production release AND an expensive production cost of a regular live album issued by the record company?

So the attitude of Mark and management toward the fan base is questioning but we can't say that he did nothing.

If the 2005 recording could re-released in better resolution would be a good step.

Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 08:29:04 PM
Well I don't see any correlation between merchandising and fame?

The MK signature Strat although being expensive was still affordable to a lot of people and not a limited run while in production.
The Les Paul is another history.

Regarding live recording well mark allowed almost all his shows to be recorded and sold since 2010.
But the market is limited and is enough place for BOTH a whole tour low quality production release AND an expensive production cost of a regular live album issued by the record company?

So the attitude of Mark and management toward the fan base is questioning but we can't say that he did nothing.

If the 2005 recording could re-released in better resolution would be a good step.

In the retrospect, MK Strat looks like a bargain because Mark is now officially the king of the most expensive signature guitars in the world. Martin were out-of-the-world expensive, Pensas are insanely expensive, Schecters are also out of the league for most players, Gibsons... Don't even start, notoriously expensive guitars, even the National, which is technically not a signature guitar, still costs like an aeroplane. I'd say — I love you Mark, but to hell with your signature instruments. I know that you're guitar God, but not all your fans are wallet Gods, if you know what I mean. Probably the only guitar that has some MK connection to it and not stupidly expensive is Danelectro, you can get one really cheap.

I still wonder why they didn't record 2008 tour, because that's the one I want the most, one of the best MK tours and of course, as you can expect, it wasn't recorded. I'd easily trade 2019 and 2015 shows recording for a single 2008 recording. Funny setlist, some really good songs, but meh...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 19, 2020, 11:42:03 PM
https://www.markknopfler.com/legendsseries/

Finally a signature guitar one can actually afford! :lol

How much?!£€£€£€€$$

I've an official limited edition of only 300 worldwide of Joe Bonamassa's ex 'Gold Top' Signature Les Paul in 1/4 scale and that only cost £45.....
Not sure they can warrant £350+
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 19, 2020, 11:46:23 PM
It looks like it comes straight out of Joe Bonamassa's webstore. JB's got a huge selection of merchandise, and a lot of it looks like the cheap garbage you'd find for sale on beaches in Turkey. It's pretty sad actually.

Having bought quite a lot of what you may call cheap garbage from the Bonamassa store quite recently, I can say 1) it's not cheap and 2) its certainly not garbage!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2020, 11:57:18 PM
https://www.markknopfler.com/legendsseries/

Finally a signature guitar one can actually afford! :lol

How much?!£€£€£€€$$

I've an official limited edition of only 300 worldwide of Joe Bonamassa's ex 'Gold Top' Signature Les Paul in 1/4 scale and that only cost 45.....
Not sure they can warrant £350+

I can tell you I wrote that post BEFORE I saw the price :lol

I wouldn't buy it for £330 even if I used money as a firestarter for my fireplace.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 20, 2020, 07:30:20 AM
Mark doesn't set the price of these guitars! It is only expensive if they don't sell, but the fact they do sell means people are buying them at that price. There are still plenty of other cheaper guitars to buy. The fact it has the name Mark Knopfler on it, naturally makes it more expensive. This is all clever marketing for the guitar makers, and good luck to them; for Mark it must be a thrill to have his name on guitars he fantasized about when he only had his first £50 guitar, I know I would be.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2020, 08:42:56 AM
Mark doesn't set the price of these guitars! It is only expensive if they don't sell, but the fact they do sell means people are buying them at that price. There are still plenty of other cheaper guitars to buy. The fact it has the name Mark Knopfler on it, naturally makes it more expensive. This is all clever marketing for the guitar makers, and good luck to them; for Mark it must be a thrill to have his name on guitars he fantasized about when he only had his first £50 guitar, I know I would be.

I'm sure he's thrilled! But I won't say that the fact that guitars sell well justifies everything, people would buy even a toilet paper as long as it would have Mark Knopfler name on it. Mark has a lot of rich and loyal fans who can pull the trigger on anything with MK connection, so guitars would sell even with 10X price, it would just take a little longer.

There's a question of psychology also, who's the end buyer of an MK instrument? Surely a guitar collector is exactly a kind of guy who can buy some MK instruments, because it's a 'good investment'. But MK is not a collector himself. A professional musician? I think he would build a guitar to own specs, rather than relying completely on somebody else's, I've never seen Mark playing on an Eric Clapton signature strat. But surely a lot of MK die-hard fans are 100% confident that Mark's specs are the best specs in the whole wild world.

So it leaves only a tiny little fraction of actual genuine fans, who just love good guitars and not necessarily professional musicians, but the fraction is nothing on the grand scheme of things. Most of the guitars has gone to the collectors and rich people, not exactly inspiring in my book.

Coming from the guy, who said hundreds of times that he loves cheap guitars, and started on cheap guitars, selling 3-5-10 grand guitars is kind of strange... To me. If his ego can't stand putting his name on a cheaper instrument, why even bother because of the above? And all he can say: I'm sorry buddy, you don't have enough dough, come back next time.

I'm not a fan of all this signature thing, and I figured even if I had enough dough, I would go with a cheaper alternative without MK tax.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2020, 08:59:51 AM
Of course, for selling cheap signature guitars one can argue, that 'only the beginners and broke lads would buy that crap', but at least this instrument would have a clear and dedicated group of people. Joe Bonamassa 'sells' his signature Epiphones for 700$ and nobody has died because of that. A hardcore professional or a collector would never bother buying such an instrument, but some random dad would surely buy this as a gift to his son, who loves Joe's music. Everything else is strictly business.

UPD: Brian May also sells a lot of his signature guitars and you don't need to rob a bank to get one of these: https://shop.brianmayguitars.co.uk/the-bmg-special.html
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: herlock on November 20, 2020, 10:06:57 AM
On the mk.com page they mentioned the 16gb usb key twice. The first time they don't specify the format(s), but they mention 2013 in addition to 2005/2010/2015/2019.
The second time they mention MP3 but 2013 is gone...
Not sure what to expect. I would hope that this means they will sell again these shows on MK.com. 2005 and 2010 and to some extent 2013 were killers. That would be a good sign. I would hope for flac files...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 20, 2020, 10:43:26 AM
Of course, for selling cheap signature guitars one can argue, that 'only the beginners and broke lads would buy that crap', but at least this instrument would have a clear and dedicated group of people. Joe Bonamassa 'sells' his signature Epiphones for 700$ and nobody has died because of that. A hardcore professional or a collector would never bother buying such an instrument, but some random dad would surely buy this as a gift to his son, who loves Joe's music. Everything else is strictly business.

UPD: Brian May also sells a lot of his signature guitars and you don't need to rob a bank to get one of these: https://shop.brianmayguitars.co.uk/the-bmg-special.html

Don't forget Hank, endorsing Squire by Fender Stratocaster's in the early 90s too.
The only difference with Joe endorsing the Epiphone Signature 'cheaper guitars' is that he does play them Live!!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: tngemini on November 21, 2020, 06:12:30 PM
Hi Everybody, did someone receive an email like this during the past few months? Strange echo with new releases of old stuff ...

"Hi,

My company operates MarkKnopfler.com and facilitated the live recordings on DTRW in 2019.

I am writing to you as I noticed that you purchased FLAC files for the shows that you purchased from the DTRW tour.

We have been unsuccessful in having Bleeker Street or Simfy provide the mixed recordings from the tours prior to Tracker. I am wondering if you had purchased any live recordings from Bleeker Street, Simfy or any company that may have come before that for the Privateering, Get Lucky or Kill To Get Crimson tours. We have no idea if the live recordings were even sold as FLAC files on those tours… but we would be interested in any digital files related to those tours.

I work very closely with Mark’s management and we wanted to compare the quality of the mixed live recordings over previous tours to see if we might improve the process should there be any future live performances. We had intended to make all available live recordings that we could find available. Unfortunately, Bleeker Street’s bankruptcy resulted in a disorderly windup and a bad hand off of the assets.

Please let me know if you are able to help in our quest to track down versions of previous tours.

Thank you for your consideration.

Regards"
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: binone on November 25, 2020, 11:15:24 PM
Hi Everybody, did someone receive an email like this during the past few months? Strange echo with new releases of old stuff ...

"Hi,

My company operates MarkKnopfler.com and facilitated the live recordings on DTRW in 2019.

I am writing to you as I noticed that you purchased FLAC files for the shows that you purchased from the DTRW tour.

We have been unsuccessful in having Bleeker Street or Simfy provide the mixed recordings from the tours prior to Tracker. I am wondering if you had purchased any live recordings from Bleeker Street, Simfy or any company that may have come before that for the Privateering, Get Lucky or Kill To Get Crimson tours. We have no idea if the live recordings were even sold as FLAC files on those tours… but we would be interested in any digital files related to those tours.

I work very closely with Mark’s management and we wanted to compare the quality of the mixed live recordings over previous tours to see if we might improve the process should there be any future live performances. We had intended to make all available live recordings that we could find available. Unfortunately, Bleeker Street’s bankruptcy resulted in a disorderly windup and a bad hand off of the assets.

Please let me know if you are able to help in our quest to track down versions of previous tours.

Thank you for your consideration.

Regards"

Yes, some of us received that mail too. We are collaborating with them.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: hunter on November 26, 2020, 07:47:07 AM
We have no idea if the live recordings were even sold as FLAC files on those tours… but we would be interested in any digital files related to those tours.


Fantastic.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: dvschend on January 05, 2021, 05:18:24 PM
So reading all your comments I'm the fool....well I like it  ;D

It arrived today. Number 135/500




Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on January 05, 2021, 06:26:01 PM
It looks darker than MK Gibson...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 29, 2021, 03:23:15 PM
It looks darker than MK Gibson...

Yes, this is a "darkburst" finish. MK's is a sunburst.

Also, that's Fender case...
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 29, 2021, 03:29:45 PM
I just checked, despite being limited to 500, these are still availabe on MK's store people, better move quickly if you want a crappy looking toy replica for £350!
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: jbaent on April 29, 2021, 05:19:47 PM
I just checked, despite being limited to 500, these are still availabe on MK's store people, better move quickly if you want a crappy looking toy replica for £350!

I have it and have to say it's not crappy at all, actually is very very nice.
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: quizzaciously on April 29, 2021, 05:23:00 PM
I just checked, despite being limited to 500, these are still availabe on MK's store people, better move quickly if you want a crappy looking toy replica for £350!

I have it and have to say it's not crappy at all, actually is very very nice.

Yes, the photo of Mark standing around 50 overly priced Gibsons is pretty nice! :lol
Title: Re: The Legends Series: Rare Reproductions & Recordings
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 29, 2021, 05:39:40 PM
I just checked, despite being limited to 500, these are still availabe on MK's store people, better move quickly if you want a crappy looking toy replica for £350!

I have it and have to say it's not crappy at all, actually is very very nice.
From the photos it looks crappy to me but I am glad you are happy with your purchase.