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Title: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 01, 2020, 09:58:46 am
Just throwing this out there.


Compared with other forums I use online (The Gear Page for example), the software that AMIT uses feels rather outdated and clunky. Is there any chance it could be upgraded? Is it a matter of money? Too much work?
Title: Re: Is time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: jbaent on December 01, 2020, 11:39:02 am
Just throwing this out there.


Compared with other forums I use online (The Gear Page for example), the software that AMIT uses feels rather outdated and clunky. Is there any chance it could be upgraded? Is it a matter of money? Too much work?

Update the software could lead to loose many information, I think that many threads or parts or messages are already missing due to some updates in the software.

I like the way it is anyway.
Title: Re: Is time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: quizzaciously on December 01, 2020, 12:02:33 pm
the software that AMIT uses feels rather outdated and clunky.

Can't help but add "Just like MK" :lol
Title: Re: Is time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: ds1984 on December 01, 2020, 04:16:06 pm
What a Kemper version of our beloved forum?

NO WAY !!!


 ;D
Title: Re: Is time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 01, 2020, 04:29:29 pm
What a Kemper version of our beloved forum?

NO WAY !!!


 ;D
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Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: dmg on December 01, 2020, 05:30:25 pm
The forum should be a representation of the main man.  So it should move slowly and take over two years to reveal any new information.  :lol
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 01, 2020, 05:44:00 pm
See my quote above? What's the deal with the changed font size? Sometimes when I copy and paste something into a post, the font gets tiny, by itself. It's quirky as all get out.
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: dmg on December 02, 2020, 01:51:25 pm
The forum is fine for my needs.  The sole exception would be posting a picture.  It is annoying to have to resize it time and again until it is finally the correct size.  I just can't be gassed now.
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: jbaent on December 02, 2020, 03:38:09 pm
See my quote above? What's the deal with the changed font size? Sometimes when I copy and paste something into a post, the font gets tiny, by itself. It's quirky as all get out.

You have to take care with what you write before or after the brackets...
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: jbaent on December 02, 2020, 03:39:12 pm
The forum is fine for my needs.  The sole exception would be posting a picture.  It is annoying to have to resize it time and again until it is finally the correct size.  I just can't be gassed now.

I agree with that, also the gifs for the avatar is a pain in the ass...
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 02, 2020, 05:23:18 pm
See my quote above? What's the deal with the changed font size? Sometimes when I copy and paste something into a post, the font gets tiny, by itself. It's quirky as all get out.

You have to take care with what you write before or after the brackets...


I do, but sometimes the formatting has a mind of its own. It shouldn't really be necessary. But I understand that if there's a risk that information will get lost, or that it will require much and maybe expensive work, it may not be worth it.
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: jbaent on December 02, 2020, 05:44:34 pm
See my quote above? What's the deal with the changed font size? Sometimes when I copy and paste something into a post, the font gets tiny, by itself. It's quirky as all get out.

You have to take care with what you write before or after the brackets...


I do, but sometimes the formatting has a mind of its own. It shouldn't really be necessary. But I understand that if there's a risk that information will get lost, or that it will require much and maybe expensive work, it may not be worth it.

It happened to me from time to time, but it was always my fault because I wasn't taking care of where I was writing and using the quoting and other things unproperly...
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Pottel on December 03, 2020, 03:59:17 pm
we should ask our more tech minded editors, like Hoops mccann or Dutchessy.
boys??
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 11:40:23 am
An available upgrade should be possible, but an complete new lay-out or something is really a lot of work. Last time we have done that was with the new banner and new colours. I worked quite a time on that with Nelly (Knopflerized).

There is always a risk of malfunction, we had it several times int he past, once all avatars dissappeared. I can look into an upgrade when i have some private time left.

But what's the main thing you are bugged with? The fonts?
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 11:50:16 am
I will run a test upgrade on a backup version first in the coming period, i don't want the break the forum  ;)

Thank you for pointing this out Hunter, it's a good time for this because there isn't a lot of MK news right now. Then the forum will be updated before anouncing the new world tour and album  ;D
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: vancip on December 04, 2020, 12:08:21 pm
SMF 2.1 after 6 development years got its RC3 but I've tried it yet
upgrade to latest 2.0 will bring some fixes but nothing new
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 04, 2020, 12:20:51 pm
Thanks Dutchessy!
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 01:15:49 pm
SMF 2.1 after 6 development years got its RC3 but I've tried it yet
upgrade to latest 2.0 will bring some fixes but nothing new

We are currently on 2.015, is 2.1 different?
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 01:47:48 pm
It's also not bugfree and not an official release.

We are stuck with slow development of Simple Machine forums i guess.
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: jbaent on December 04, 2020, 01:55:28 pm
I'm ok with the forum as it is, is easy. There are things like the image size and the avatars size that could be improved but the rest works ok for me.
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: vancip on December 04, 2020, 02:24:57 pm
We are currently on 2.015, is 2.1 different?

according to smf wiki:

Automated Installation of mods on non-default themes
"Smart emulation" to automatically detect a mod's version and to automatically emulate this mod when it is installed
Improved attachment security
Improved attachment error handling
SCEditor (New WYSIWYG editor)
Drafts
Enhanced admin panel
IPv6 Support
Built in support for jQuery
Full SSL Support
Verification questions support for multiple answers and multiple languages
Deny access to boards
Moved topics placeholders can be set to auto expire/delete
Topic preview when hovering over subject on message index
Likes System
Mentions System
Alerts systems for Notifications, Likes, and Mentions
Topic notifications can be set to Not Following, No Alerts or Email, Receive Alerts and Receive Emails and Alerts
Personal Messages automatically saved in sent box
Default theme is responsive
Ical calendar event export support
Gravatar support

just installed one istance of smf 2.1rc3 on a low budget vps with a spare domain.. I'll try it in the next weeks, I'm already looking for a replacement for another web-community
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 04, 2020, 03:09:35 pm
An available upgrade should be possible, but an complete new lay-out or something is really a lot of work. Last time we have done that was with the new banner and new colours. I worked quite a time on that with Nelly (Knopflerized).

There is always a risk of malfunction, we had it several times int he past, once all avatars dissappeared. I can look into an upgrade when i have some private time left.

But what's the main thing you are bugged with? The fonts?


Thanks for the effort, Dutchessy.


Overall, the forum works fine, and my "complaints" are rather trivial in the big scheme of things, but coming from for example The Gear Page, this forum feels quite antiquated in comparison. Like I mentioned, the fonts can be an issue when you copy and paste. Also I'd like it to be easier to post and resize photos. With some forum software you can copy and paste photos straight into the post and also resize them directly. Better implementation of multimedia from various platforms would be nice too, i.e. videos from FB, Instagram, vimeo, etc. YouTube links too should be possible copy and paste without editing the URLs.


Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: vancip on December 04, 2020, 03:26:36 pm
Also I'd like it to be easier to post and resize photos. With some forum software you can copy and paste photos straight into the post and also resize them directly. Better implementation of multimedia from various platforms would be nice too, i.e. videos from FB, Instagram, vimeo, etc. YouTube links too should be possible copy and paste without editing the URLs.

just tried while waiting for a client picking up the phone

SMF2.1RC3 has Youtube button to embed video (just enter URL), for images button to enter URL and setting w/h
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 07:30:50 pm
Videos are really easy to post already, just post the link...
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 07:32:09 pm
Will look into the picture thing, maybe there are some plugins for
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 04, 2020, 08:14:55 pm
Testing:


RARE, Richard Bennett Interview: Mark Knopfler (26 years), Neil Diamond (17 years) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_9FAT12aCQ)


Changing Seasons feat. Mark Matthews | MTB RAW on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/channels/staffpicks/481386833)


http://fb.watch/2ah33r3hLr/
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 04, 2020, 08:16:30 pm
OK, so youtube works fine, but not from other sites.
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 08:24:51 pm
https://vimeo.com/channels/staffpicks/481386833

https://www.facebook.com/bbccomedy/videos/825702114843442/
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 08:28:22 pm
OK, so youtube works fine, but not from other sites.

Facebook is working if you post the video link. Will investigate Vimeo
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 08:30:11 pm
https://vimeo.com/481386833
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 04, 2020, 08:30:48 pm
OK, so youtube works fine, but not from other sites.

Facebook is working if you post the video link. Will investigate Vimeo


Testing: https://www.facebook.com/bbccomedy/videos/825702114843442/
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 08:32:15 pm
Vimeo also works, you need to post the video URL, not the page
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 04, 2020, 08:32:30 pm
Testing again:

https://vimeo.com/481386833
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 08:33:15 pm
Yes, well done :)
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: hunter on December 04, 2020, 08:33:33 pm
Vimeo also works, you need to post the video URL, not the page


OK, then this is just user error on my part. My apologies.
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 08:34:54 pm
This video share thing i implemented 2 years ago with the latest major update so i knew it had to work. Will try to find a simulator thing for pics
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Dutchessy on December 04, 2020, 08:35:50 pm
Vimeo also works, you need to post the video URL, not the page


OK, then this is just user error on my part. My apologies.

No problem, feedback to improve amit is always welcome
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: Pottel on December 04, 2020, 11:43:06 pm
We are currently on 2.015, is 2.1 different?

according to smf wiki:

Automated Installation of mods on non-default themes
"Smart emulation" to automatically detect a mod's version and to automatically emulate this mod when it is installed
Improved attachment security
Improved attachment error handling
SCEditor (New WYSIWYG editor)
Drafts
Enhanced admin panel
IPv6 Support
Built in support for jQuery
Full SSL Support
Verification questions support for multiple answers and multiple languages
Deny access to boards
Moved topics placeholders can be set to auto expire/delete
Topic preview when hovering over subject on message index
Likes System
Mentions System
Alerts systems for Notifications, Likes, and Mentions
Topic notifications can be set to Not Following, No Alerts or Email, Receive Alerts and Receive Emails and Alerts
Personal Messages automatically saved in sent box
Default theme is responsive
Ical calendar event export support
Gravatar support

just installed one istance of smf 2.1rc3 on a low budget vps with a spare domain.. I'll try it in the next weeks, I'm already looking for a replacement for another web-community
certainly interested in:
Topic preview when hovering over subject on message index
Title: Re: Is it time to upgrade the forum software?
Post by: vancip on December 05, 2020, 09:23:59 am
certainly interested in:
Topic preview when hovering over subject on message index

not working in my fresh install, looking at page code there's a class "preview" for every thread with some jquery event on mouseover but nothing appearing
I've looked to another forum on line but same result