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Title: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Klaus74 on May 07, 2021, 07:28:03 PM
Hello to everyone.
Yes you also can read it on MK-News site.
Mark does not sign instruments anymore. There was an "rip off" offer, i think from a canadian guy, who was selling an autographed FAKE-Fender-Guitar, and that was detected by MK-News people. So i think that Mark was very disapointed by that fact, that people make money with autographed FAKE-instruments. Mark stands for high-quality instruments, as we all know and it is clear, that he could get hurt in his honour.
I personally can understand Mark with his decision to avoid to sign various doubtful instruments. It is sad to see, that such negative greedy "rip-off" people endangered the loyal fan - artist relationship.
In 2019 Mark signed in Germany some guitars, one red MK-Fender-edition Guitar in Oberhausen and one look-a-like Fender, i think it was a Squier or something like that. The person has many other autographs on the guitar-body, but Mark´s signature was missing. That was in the afternoon on the backstage-entrance in Cologne. That was before the Canadian guy offered the autographed FAKE-Fender on ebay.
What do you think about Mark´s decision or his attitude to those people ?? :think
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: ds1984 on May 07, 2021, 07:52:49 PM
Old news from the last tour.

If you search in the forum you should retrieve it.

Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Klaus74 on May 07, 2021, 07:55:20 PM
Yes i also know, that are not new news, but i want to know, how the other loyal fans think about it. That´s all. :think
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: quizzaciously on May 07, 2021, 08:38:08 PM
It depends. Personally, I don't care about any signatures and never approached MK to give me one, I just can't see the point to that (apart from making extra value for selling stuff lol). So for people who want or love signatures, it's a tragedy, for people like me nothing at all has changed. To me, the signature makes sense when MK knows you and wants to dedicate something to you, but when this is done for the sake of it, I don't get it. But I'm in a minority here I believe.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: rmarques821 on May 07, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
Couldn't care less about signatures.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: mschaap on May 07, 2021, 10:27:15 PM
Fully agree with Pavel. Can’t see any point in getting an autograph from MK, or in fact from anyone. Well, just maybe, if I was to engage in business contract or something with him haha. But seriously, otherwise it would just be useless, pointless and actually quite silly and sad. Apart form that, it would just seem so immensely embarrassing to me to be asking someone’s autograph for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Knopflerfan on May 07, 2021, 11:57:06 PM
It depends. Personally, I don't care about any signatures and never approached MK to give me one, I just can't see the point to that (apart from making extra value for selling stuff lol). So for people who want or love signatures, it's a tragedy, for people like me nothing at all has changed. To me, the signature makes sense when MK knows you and wants to dedicate something to you, but when this is done for the sake of it, I don't get it. But I'm in a minority here I believe.

I agree - ish!!

Personally I will never ever forget meeting MK - that chat, the handshake and to cop it all three signatures of which I would never ever part with.....
Perhaps that's because I'm a huge fan and they are worth more than any monies in the world to me.....To me they form a reminder of that such occasion.....
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Knut on May 08, 2021, 12:18:46 AM
I think it's Mark's decision, nobody forced him to do one thing or another. I don't like a "look at what you made the genius do!!!"-kind of attitude, like Mark's response is a fan's responsibility. He's a grown man and can choose a different approach if he wants to. Just like it's not some random person being careless with a video camera that's the one to blame for the video ban during shows, that was again Mark's decision (or his management, I don't know the details).
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 08, 2021, 08:56:30 AM
A real shame for genuine fans.

My MK Strat is signed and I will treasure it till the day I die.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: quizzaciously on May 08, 2021, 12:08:27 PM
With all due respect to Mark, but I think he solved the problem that he created himself. He signed random Squiers, scratch plates, and whatnot, he signed guitars that his manager brought to him after collecting them from fans. He signed instruments purely at random, and after that, who would've thought, they ended up on eBay.

He tried to ask people at least to play something before signing, but that would only eliminate a small portion of Rüdigers. Nobody really knows if the person who asks you to sign a guitar is a genuine fan or a genuine fake guitars trader, so in all honesty, I think it's a pretty good decision. I think if you really, deeply want a guitar to be signed by Mark, you can try to approach it through managers or so, I think with a really good story or attitude it is still possible to get a signature. It's just he won't sign guitars at random like before.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: dmg on May 08, 2021, 12:42:40 PM
Just remembered this story.  When a group of us were waiting for the band to emerge after the show in Glasgow way back in 2001 a roadie suddenly appeared and handed some of us, myself included, a setlist from one of the band members.  Glenn signed my setlist and programme but when Mark eventually emerged someone in front of me in the queue found out that Mark doesn't sign setlists.  :o
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: quizzaciously on May 08, 2021, 12:49:27 PM
Just remembered this story.  When a group of us were waiting for the band to emerge after the show in Glasgow way back in 2001 a roadie suddenly appeared and handed some of us, myself included, a setlist from one of the band members.  Glenn signed my setlist and programme but when Mark eventually emerged someone in front of me in the queue found out that Mark doesn't sign setlists.  :o

Mark also doesn't sign things with other signatures, I know it for a fact. A setlist is a strange thing to sign, to be honest, but, with all due respect (again), I saw on this very forum an iPhone signed by Mark. And then people complain he won't sign guitars. Go figure :lol
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: PensaGhost on May 08, 2021, 02:57:01 PM
A real shame for genuine fans.

My MK Strat is signed and I will treasure it till the day I die.

yes

another very questionable decision by MK
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: dmg on May 08, 2021, 02:57:14 PM
Just remembered this story.  When a group of us were waiting for the band to emerge after the show in Glasgow way back in 2001 a roadie suddenly appeared and handed some of us, myself included, a setlist from one of the band members.  Glenn signed my setlist and programme but when Mark eventually emerged someone in front of me in the queue found out that Mark doesn't sign setlists.  :o

Mark also doesn't sign things with other signatures, I know it for a fact. A setlist is a strange thing to sign, to be honest, but, with all due respect (again), I saw on this very forum an iPhone signed by Mark. And then people complain he won't sign guitars. Go figure :lol

Some people hadn't bought a programme to sign.  I suppose he wants his fans to shell out £10-20 a pop for a few pages of recycled photos before he'll give you his signature.

Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: quizzaciously on May 08, 2021, 04:33:46 PM
Just remembered this story.  When a group of us were waiting for the band to emerge after the show in Glasgow way back in 2001 a roadie suddenly appeared and handed some of us, myself included, a setlist from one of the band members.  Glenn signed my setlist and programme but when Mark eventually emerged someone in front of me in the queue found out that Mark doesn't sign setlists.  :o

Mark also doesn't sign things with other signatures, I know it for a fact. A setlist is a strange thing to sign, to be honest, but, with all due respect (again), I saw on this very forum an iPhone signed by Mark. And then people complain he won't sign guitars. Go figure :lol

Some people hadn't bought a programme to sign.  I suppose he wants his fans to shell out £10-20 a pop for a few pages of recycled photos before he'll give you his signature.

But try to put yourself in Mark's shoes. A setlist is usually a crappy piece of thin paper that usually by the end of the show is in pretty rough shape. More than that, Mark needs something solid underneath it to sign it properly, so a hard surface, whether it's a booklet, LP, scratchplate, the programme will work better.

I think it also depends on the mood of the maestro. In 2001, on the last show of the tour in Moscow, a bunch of Russian fans crowded underneath the hotel where Mark stayed, and shouted to him to get down to them. He obliged and signed everything, including shirts on people.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Klaus74 on May 08, 2021, 04:52:42 PM
Yes you are right. Mark is also a human being. Every day is different, also his mood.

Mark autographed my french Promo-Maxi-Single Telegraph Road and he recognized the other signature of John Illsley on it. So on that day it was not a big problem to sign other earlier autographed items. In Cologne i have met another fan with a Squier-Guitar filled with autographs by other former Dire Straits members incl. David, Pick, John, Alan, Guy. He also got Mark´s signature on the guitar-body.
You cannot predict it, if Mark or another artist is in a good mood for signing items for fans.
A little story by myself:
In Oberhausen at the 2011 MK and BD-Show i was the one and only person at the stage-gate, who´s waiting for a chance of getting items signed. THE ONE AND ONLY, just remember. That was also a very remarkable situation. I had very good smalltalk with the security-guy at the gate and he informed me, when the busses and cars came or leave. After half and one hour of waiting and hoping, the gate opened and a big guy came to me, directly. It was Pete Mackay, the well-known second tour-manager/assistant-tourmanager of Mark.
He came to me and he invited me to follow him into the "sacred" backstage-area, where all those tour-busses and other tour-vehicles had beeing parked. I gave him my Vinyl-Version of KTGC and my black marker. He walked away into a small building close to the big stage-doors at Oberhausen-Arena.  From the distance through a big window i saw Mark and  Pete together talking. A few minutes later, Pete came back and gave me my autographed Vinyl back. So thank you again Pete for that cool view into the backstage-area. Than he told me, that i had to leave that area. He made my day, anyway. It was a very kind and positive experience and no other fan was there.   
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: firmstools on May 08, 2021, 05:43:28 PM
Fully agree with Pavel. Can’t see any point in getting an autograph from MK, or in fact from anyone. Well, just maybe, if I was to engage in business contract or something with him haha. But seriously, otherwise it would just be useless, pointless and actually quite silly and sad. Apart form that, it would just seem so immensely embarrassing to me to be asking someone’s autograph for the sake of it.

And it would mean so much to me!
If I were ever in the position of meeting him an autograph on a ticket stub or a hang tag from my guitar would mean the world to me.
I cannot think of a scenario where I would meet him and have my MK Strat with me but a signature on that would be just out of this world.
He is one of my musical "heroes" and sorry if it is childish or not rational but an autograph would be a prized possession.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 08, 2021, 08:36:09 PM
Fully agree with Pavel. Can’t see any point in getting an autograph from MK, or in fact from anyone. Well, just maybe, if I was to engage in business contract or something with him haha. But seriously, otherwise it would just be useless, pointless and actually quite silly and sad. Apart form that, it would just seem so immensely embarrassing to me to be asking someone’s autograph for the sake of it.

And it would mean so much to me!
If I were ever in the position of meeting him an autograph on a ticket stub or a hang tag from my guitar would mean the world to me.
I cannot think of a scenario where I would meet him and have my MK Strat with me but a signature on that would be just out of this world.
He is one of my musical "heroes" and sorry if it is childish or not rational but an autograph would be a prized possession.
I drove 600 miles to Wales  with my wife and two month old son to get mine signed.

I just took the neck.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Knopflerfan on May 08, 2021, 08:47:20 PM
A real shame for genuine fans.

My MK Strat is signed and I will treasure it till the day I die.

Couldn't agree more. Although like I said before actually meeting him, chatting to him and shaking his hand was awesome and the signatures are a personal bonus!
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Knopflerfan on May 08, 2021, 08:51:06 PM
A real shame for genuine fans.

My MK Strat is signed and I will treasure it till the day I die.

yes

another very questionable decision by MK

Ah but it wasn't signed at a huge concert venue I know for a fact like me Dusty met him on his own at an intimate venue without crowds of people...

I suppose Dusty and I both didn't have 'random' items for him to sign- actually the objects we had to sign were 'select' Fender items associated with him.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Knopflerfan on May 08, 2021, 08:55:29 PM
Fully agree with Pavel. Can’t see any point in getting an autograph from MK, or in fact from anyone. Well, just maybe, if I was to engage in business contract or something with him haha. But seriously, otherwise it would just be useless, pointless and actually quite silly and sad. Apart form that, it would just seem so immensely embarrassing to me to be asking someone’s autograph for the sake of it.

And it would mean so much to me!
If I were ever in the position of meeting him an autograph on a ticket stub or a hang tag from my guitar would mean the world to me.
I cannot think of a scenario where I would meet him and have my MK Strat with me but a signature on that would be just out of this world.
He is one of my musical "heroes" and sorry if it is childish or not rational but an autograph would be a prized possession.

Personally I totally get your wish Firmstools...his Signatures are certainly mine - always will be!
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: MagicElliott on May 08, 2021, 08:58:28 PM
Fully agree with Pavel. Can’t see any point in getting an autograph from MK, or in fact from anyone. Well, just maybe, if I was to engage in business contract or something with him haha. But seriously, otherwise it would just be useless, pointless and actually quite silly and sad. Apart form that, it would just seem so immensely embarrassing to me to be asking someone’s autograph for the sake of it.

And it would mean so much to me!
If I were ever in the position of meeting him an autograph on a ticket stub or a hang tag from my guitar would mean the world to me.
I cannot think of a scenario where I would meet him and have my MK Strat with me but a signature on that would be just out of this world.
He is one of my musical "heroes" and sorry if it is childish or not rational but an autograph would be a prized possession.
I drove 600 miles to Wales  with my wife and two month old son to get mine signed.

I just took the neck.

Sounds like Mark buying his first National!
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Stanko on May 08, 2021, 08:59:00 PM
Fully agree with Pavel. Can’t see any point in getting an autograph from MK, or in fact from anyone. Well, just maybe, if I was to engage in business contract or something with him haha. But seriously, otherwise it would just be useless, pointless and actually quite silly and sad. Apart form that, it would just seem so immensely embarrassing to me to be asking someone’s autograph for the sake of it.

And it would mean so much to me!
If I were ever in the position of meeting him an autograph on a ticket stub or a hang tag from my guitar would mean the world to me.
I cannot think of a scenario where I would meet him and have my MK Strat with me but a signature on that would be just out of this world.
He is one of my musical "heroes" and sorry if it is childish or not rational but an autograph would be a prized possession.
I drove 600 miles to Wales  with my wife and two month old son to get mine signed.

I just took the neck.

But came out alive  ;D
I remember you also pulled down to Split, Croatia to sign my copy of 20 Golden Greatest you have mailed it to me previously!
I'll never forget that!  :wave ❤
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 08, 2021, 09:01:17 PM
Fully agree with Pavel. Can’t see any point in getting an autograph from MK, or in fact from anyone. Well, just maybe, if I was to engage in business contract or something with him haha. But seriously, otherwise it would just be useless, pointless and actually quite silly and sad. Apart form that, it would just seem so immensely embarrassing to me to be asking someone’s autograph for the sake of it.

And it would mean so much to me!
If I were ever in the position of meeting him an autograph on a ticket stub or a hang tag from my guitar would mean the world to me.
I cannot think of a scenario where I would meet him and have my MK Strat with me but a signature on that would be just out of this world.
He is one of my musical "heroes" and sorry if it is childish or not rational but an autograph would be a prized possession.
I drove 600 miles to Wales  with my wife and two month old son to get mine signed.

I just took the neck.

But came out alive  ;D
I remember you also pulled down to Split, Croatia to sign my copy of 20 Golden Greatest you have mailed it to me previously!
I'll never forget that!  :wave
Ha ha ha, that is true, I had to battle with armed police that day to sign that CD! :)


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Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: hunter on May 09, 2021, 05:37:53 PM
If I ever decide to wait in line for Mark to sign anything, I'll bring a CD by a different artist  ;D  Clapton or something.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: dmg on May 10, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
If I ever decide to wait in line for Mark to sign anything, I'll bring a CD by a different artist  ;D  Clapton or something.

His brothers latest CD would be interesting.  ;D
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: hunter on May 10, 2021, 01:11:57 PM
If I ever decide to wait in line for Mark to sign anything, I'll bring a CD by a different artist  ;D  Clapton or something.

His brothers latest CD would be interesting.  ;D


Bring a CD by David, and just when it's your turn, look confused at Mark and say "Hey, you're not David Knopfler!?" and then walk away.  ;D
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: quizzaciously on May 10, 2021, 03:12:20 PM
If I ever decide to wait in line for Mark to sign anything, I'll bring a CD by a different artist  ;D  Clapton or something.

His brothers latest CD would be interesting.  ;D


Bring a CD by David, and just when it's your turn, look confused at Mark and say "Hey, you're not David Knopfler!?" and then walk away.  ;D

Jokes aside, many stars actually have stories like that. Like somebody sees Brad Pitt and go like "I loved you in such and such movie", without him, or "You are Matt Damon, right?". And the funniest thing is sometimes people like this, after getting confused with someone else and asked to sign something, sign it on behalf of someone else. And the guy who took the signature will think that he got the real deal. You can never underestimate human stupidity.
Title: Re: Mark does not sign instruments anymore - What do you think about that
Post by: Banjo99uk on May 10, 2021, 04:02:27 PM
Mechanics used to sign Michael Schumachers stuff that was taken into garage for signing.