A Mark In Time
General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: PensaGhost on July 23, 2021, 03:05:53 PM
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eric-clapton-not-play-vaccine-shows-1200257/
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such a dork
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such a dork
Fortunately, a lot of people agree that this was a really bad move from EC. He'd better take his words back...
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Such an idiot...... :disbelief
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If people are annoyed about this, wait till they find out he’s a racist.
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If people are annoyed about this, wait till they find out he’s a racist.
Is he? I knew about things from the past, like the 70s, is there any recent statement that I missed?
he has no excuses on covid, his statements are harmful because they inflate even more pockets of ignorance that endanger the resumption of a covid-free world
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If people are annoyed about this, wait till they find out he’s a racist.
Is he? I knew about things from the past, like the 70s, is there any recent statement that I missed?
he has no excuses on covid, his statements are harmful because they inflate even more pockets of ignorance that endanger the resumption of a covid-free world
According to his biography, he didn't get famous by being smart.
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If people are annoyed about this, wait till they find out he’s a racist.
Is he? I knew about things from the past, like the 70s, is there any recent statement that I missed?
he has no excuses on covid, his statements are harmful because they inflate even more pockets of ignorance that endanger the resumption of a covid-free world
No excuse for being racist in the 70s and failing to apologise.
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If people are annoyed about this, wait till they find out he’s a racist.
Is he? I knew about things from the past, like the 70s, is there any recent statement that I missed?
he has no excuses on covid, his statements are harmful because they inflate even more pockets of ignorance that endanger the resumption of a covid-free world
No excuse for being racist in the 70s and failing to apologise.
:thumbsup
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If people are annoyed about this, wait till they find out he’s a racist.
Is he? I knew about things from the past, like the 70s, is there any recent statement that I missed?
he has no excuses on covid, his statements are harmful because they inflate even more pockets of ignorance that endanger the resumption of a covid-free world
No excuse for being racist in the 70s and failing to apologise.
What gets me is it seems to have been swept under the carpet.
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If people are annoyed about this, wait till they find out he’s a racist.
Is he? I knew about things from the past, like the 70s, is there any recent statement that I missed?
he has no excuses on covid, his statements are harmful because they inflate even more pockets of ignorance that endanger the resumption of a covid-free world
No excuse for being racist in the 70s and failing to apologise.
What gets me is it seems to have been swept under the carpet.
No excuse for being racist, period ;D
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if you judge people you're a judge
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if you judge people you're a judge
:thumbsup :clap
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if you judge people you're a judge
wrote the judge 8)
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if you judge people you're a judge
wrote the judge 8)
:lol :clap
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if you judge people you're a judge
wrote the judge 8)
if you say so
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Guy agrees with Eric vaccination philosophy. Curious what he thinks about this.
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Guy gave his opinion on that in his forum.
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Guy gave his opinion on that in his forum.
What were his views?
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Guy agrees with Eric vaccination philosophy. Curious what he thinks about this.
Maybe he just agree it's not fair discriminate people depending on if they are vaccinated or not. People rejected vaccines sometimes for medical issues, not for being anti vaxers.
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https://guyfletcher.co.uk/dr-fletch-questions/
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I read Guy's response as being rather critical of EC, albeit agreeing that people should not be forced to have vaccines (which they are not, in the UK anyway).
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Discriminate audiences if they are vaccinated or not is close to force people to get the vaccine
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Discriminate audiences if they are vaccinated or not is close to force people to get the vaccine
We'll agree to disagree on that one.
It's your right not to have a vaccine, but in doing so you give up certain liberties, because not doing so may risk other people.
Nobody is forced to take a driving test, but if you don't take it, you aren't allowed to drive as you would risk other people's safety.
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Discriminate audiences if they are vaccinated or not is close to force people to get the vaccine
We'll agree to disagree on that one.
It's your right not to have a vaccine, but in doing so you give up certain liberties, because not doing so may risk other people.
Nobody is forced to take a driving test, but if you don't take it, you aren't allowed to drive as you would risk other people's safety.
Dusty, I take you right in a righteous world
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I'll take the medical advice of WHO, the EU, the world's governments, etc. over anything that EC might think about the issue.
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I'll take the medical advice of WHO, the EU, the world's governments, etc. over anything that EC might think about the issue.
The same issue happened when Mark canceled his shows in Russia... It was like, okay, Mr. Musician, you may think what you want about any political situation in our country, but fans love you and a lot of people bought tickets, etc., and still, he made the decision instead of playing, well, music. That was incredibly stupid for a musician punishing only his fans and nobody else because I can assure you, absolutely nobody in the authorities cared about this, not a single soul, it made absolutely no impact. But a lot of fans were pissed instead, and Mark doesn't care.
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Yes, you remember us on a regular base about it so we are very aware of that. ;D ;D
LE
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I'll take the medical advice of WHO, the EU, the world's governments, etc. over anything that EC might think about the issue.
The same issue happened when Mark canceled his shows in Russia... It was like, okay, Mr. Musician, you may think what you want about any political situation in our country, but fans love you and a lot of people bought tickets, etc., and still, he made the decision instead of playing, well, music. That was incredibly stupid for a musician punishing only his fans and nobody else because I can assure you, absolutely nobody in the authorities cared about this, not a single soul, it made absolutely no impact. But a lot of fans were pissed instead, and Mark doesn't care.
Not trolling here, genuine question, what's your view on the cultural boycott of South Africa in the 1980s, eg people like Dire Straits and others (not Queen) refusing to play Sun City?
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Discriminate audiences if they are vaccinated or not is close to force people to get the vaccine
We'll agree to disagree on that one.
Actually I don't disagree with this at all. I think that if we want to win the battle against this Damm virus, we should all get vaccinated, and while being in pandèmia, ask for vaccination certification is OK for me, as these are exceptional times.
But it's also true that if you don't want to get a vaccine but you want to get to concerts, sports etc you should be vaccinated, is force antivaxers to get the vaccine.
And I agree with that, because I'm against stupidity, and being anti vaccine is being stupid, no matter which excuses you use. It's proven that vaccine are useful. It's proven that stupidity is dangerous.
It's another thing that if someone has a health issue that makes vaccination dangerous, doesn't get it, but being antivax because you believe foolish people in internet and not science is stupid.
And Clapton is a stupid, a very big one. He had bad reaction because of his health issues, but not because vaccines are bad.
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More radical is Van Morrison:)
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Glad we can agree on Clapton Julio (finally!)
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And Clapton is a stupid, a very big one. He had bad reaction because of his health issues, but not because vaccines are bad.
Exactly.
Also some countries have "banned" the AstraZeneca vaccines because of some deaths related to it. But how are the statistics again? A few deaths out of thousands that have been vaccinated? I don't get it. I got the AZ, two shots, and all is well. Here's to a bit of sanity in this crazy world.
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I'll take the medical advice of WHO, the EU, the world's governments, etc. over anything that EC might think about the issue.
The same issue happened when Mark canceled his shows in Russia... It was like, okay, Mr. Musician, you may think what you want about any political situation in our country, but fans love you and a lot of people bought tickets, etc., and still, he made the decision instead of playing, well, music. That was incredibly stupid for a musician punishing only his fans and nobody else because I can assure you, absolutely nobody in the authorities cared about this, not a single soul, it made absolutely no impact. But a lot of fans were pissed instead, and Mark doesn't care.
Not trolling here, genuine question, what's your view on the cultural boycott of South Africa in the 1980s, eg people like Dire Straits and others (not Queen) refusing to play Sun City?
That's a tough question since I'm not that informed on this very topic and it was so long ago, but I guess apartheid is a much stronger excuse than this ridiculous thing in 2013 that sent a good 3000-4000 Russian people home without MK concert. Also, I suppose they refused to play Sun City but they would not sell the tickets and then refuse, right?
I'm sorry if I'm offending anybody by bringing this topic back, but it seems relevant and I'm not doing it a lot anyway. Personally, I hate when musicians suddenly become these raged warriors for what they want, Paul McCartney for vegans, or Eric Clapton for vaccines, it doesn't matter, when their work is to play music and bring happiness to people.
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More radical is Van Morrison:)
Van Morrison is well known for being a dick.
I remember a story by Ed Bicknell... Van called Ed because he needed a guitar player, and Ed offered him Brendan crocker and Paul Brady and Van answered very rudely "who the fuck are those, with who the fuck had them played" and cut the call abruptly yelling "fuck off" . Then some weeks after Van called again Ed because he needed a manager and asked Ed to be his manager, Ed, very politely said "fuck off" and cut the call...
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More radical is Van Morrison:)
Van Morrison is well known for being a dick.
I remember a story by Ed Bicknell... Van called Ed because he needed a guitar player, and Ed offered him Brendan crocker and Paul Brady and Van answered very rudely "who the fuck are those, with who the fuck had them played" and cut the call abruptly yelling "fuck off" . Then some weeks after Van called again Ed because he needed a manager and asked Ed to be his manager, Ed, very politely said "fuck off" and cut the call...
Cool story. I think a guy who performs with a gold microphone and a gold stand can't not be a dick. I love Van's music, but I'm not interested in his persona in the slighest. He's got his "Sir" status for his services for the music, not for his behavior:lol
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I agree with you, I don't mind if the person is an ass, it's his music what I like. I always thought Clapton was an ass all his life, his biography confirms he was an ass during most part of his life, but it's his music what I like from him. Not him. His music.
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Seen Van abandon his band mid set on 2 separate occasions. He's obviously a perfectionist and very highly strung....
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Seen Van abandon his band mid set on 2 separate occasions. He's obviously a perfectionist and very highly strung....
I've heard the same with regards MK
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Seen Van abandon his band mid set on 2 separate occasions. He's obviously a perfectionist and very highly strung....
I've heard the same with regards MK
Did MK abandoned his band mid set?
When?
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Seen Van abandon his band mid set on 2 separate occasions. He's obviously a perfectionist and very highly strung....
I've heard the same with regards MK
Did MK abandoned his band mid set?
When?
Never seen Mark behave like that. Always the consummate professional in front of a crowd. Might be a different story in private.
The one I really remember with Van was at the BIC Bournemouth, can't remember what year. Arms waving, gesturing at his band, he was not happy, they lost an ending completely and he walked off. Came back, completed the gig and refused to do an encore. Shortest set I've ever payed top dollar for. £50 a ticket, 3 hour drive to get there, and I don't think he played for more than an hour and 15 minutes!
Suffice to say we felt rather short changed that night. Walk on the beach afterwards was nice though.....
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Seen Van abandon his band mid set on 2 separate occasions. He's obviously a perfectionist and very highly strung....
I've heard the same with regards MK
Did MK abandoned his band mid set?
When?
I think what was meant was he is very highly strung.
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Seen Van abandon his band mid set on 2 separate occasions. He's obviously a perfectionist and very highly strung....
I've heard the same with regards MK
Did MK abandoned his band mid set?
When?
Never seen Mark behave like that. Always the consummate professional in front of a crowd. Might be a different story in private.
The one I really remember with Van was at the BIC Bournemouth, can't remember what year. Arms waving, gesturing at his band, he was not happy, they lost an ending completely and he walked off. Came back, completed the gig and refused to do an encore. Shortest set I've ever payed top dollar for. £50 a ticket, 3 hour drive to get there, and I don't think he played for more than an hour and 15 minutes!
Suffice to say we felt rather short changed that night. Walk on the beach afterwards was nice though.....
I hate musicians like that to be honest... Or creative people in general. Actors, musicians, sportsmen, whatever. Nobody cares whether you're in a bad mood, people went to see you perform, it's your job, you're getting paid for it, more than people in offices or behind a desk in a store. So every childish act on stage I treat like an insult towards the audience. The opposite of being professional!
I was once on Van's show and it was just like you've said, 1 hour and 15 minutes, not a single word from the stage, just song after song, brilliantly executed though. He has an amazing band!
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Seen Van abandon his band mid set on 2 separate occasions. He's obviously a perfectionist and very highly strung....
I've heard the same with regards MK
Did MK abandoned his band mid set?
When?
Wrong end of the stick - yet again!!! Perfectionist and highly strung is what I've heard with regards our beloved MK. To quote someone I've met who has recorded with MK - You wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of MK - meaning he is a perfectionist....
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Seems that "creative" people tend to feature some emotional problem. Of course not an absolutely true rule.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eric-clapton-friends-bandmates-confused-covid-1256752/