A Mark In Time

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Title: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 24, 2021, 07:09:55 PM
Another legend has passed...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58316842
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: superval99 on August 24, 2021, 07:12:59 PM
So sad to hear the news that Charlie Watts has died aged 80 yrs.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: cannibals on August 24, 2021, 07:17:51 PM
Don Everly, Brian Travers (UB40) and now Charlie Watts. Some legends past away in the last 4 days…….. :'(
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 24, 2021, 07:23:24 PM
Don Everly, Brian Travers (UB40) and now Charlie Watts. Some legends past away in the last 4 days…….. :'(

Absolutely incredibly sad....
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 24, 2021, 07:40:43 PM
RIP
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: dmg on August 25, 2021, 10:25:08 AM
Collected classic cars but couldn't drive.  A good old British eccentric.  RIP
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: jbaent on August 25, 2021, 10:58:38 AM
When a member of a legendary band pass away, I always think that all DS members are alive, and if they would, they could reunite for whatever, but that won't happen.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: quizzaciously on August 25, 2021, 11:08:41 AM
When a member of a legendary band pass away, I always think that all DS members are alive, and if they would, they could reunite for whatever, but that won't happen.

I still genuinely think it could happen, given the cause would be big enough, but I can't remember any big charity shows recently, the biggest I remember was Live 8 and it was in 2005! It could happen there but Pink Floyd stole that opportunity :lol

Mark certainly doesn't want a full reunion, like a full show, let alone tour or record, but something like Live 8 and 3-4 songs could theoretically happen, there was just no good cause for it.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: cannibals on August 25, 2021, 12:29:49 PM
Some years ago the sons of lady Di organized a concert with some big names. That also would have been something if MK would have done that with DS.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Love Expresso on August 25, 2021, 12:33:13 PM
Another obituary by MK. Quite strange one.

LE
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: JF on August 25, 2021, 12:39:10 PM
my few words (in french) about Charlie :

https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/charlie-watts-est-mort-a-80-ans/
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Love Expresso on August 25, 2021, 12:43:33 PM
Do you really think MK could deliver Dire Straits stuff these days, even if he wanted to? I am really astonished that some of you STILL wait for a DS reunion.

LE
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: straitsway75 on August 25, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
The founders of dire straits already at the end of 79 were no longer close-knit as at the beginning, after another two years they remain in two, only to have friction even at the time of the recording of brothers in arms. A lot of years have passed, they no longer communicate with each other and what's more the old manager who knows what happened to him and we would like a reunion to do what? money?
seeing them today they are not in great physical shape and I would never see phil collins like scenes.
when you have reached the last page of a book ... close it
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: quizzaciously on August 25, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
The founders of dire straits already at the end of 79 were no longer close-knit as at the beginning, after another two years they remain in two, only to have friction even at the time of the recording of brothers in arms. A lot of years have passed, they no longer communicate with each other and what's more the old manager who knows what happened to him and we would like a reunion to do what? money?
seeing them today they are not in great physical shape and I would never see phil collins like scenes.
when you have reached the last page of a book ... close it

The funniest thing about DS reunion is probably deciding the lineup. What do you even consider a reunion, when only 2 members went through all of the band's history? That means basically reunion is anything Mark and John made together. So technically it happened already in 2002 and in form of foreword for a book and TV series about guitars. Now that's a reunion :lol
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: quizzaciously on August 25, 2021, 01:03:39 PM
Another obituary by MK. Quite strange one.

LE

To be honest with you, I straight up hate obituaries written by Mark. So obvious, nothing interesting and something that absolutely anybody could write, like the complete opposite of the songs he writes. The world would lose nothing if all his obituaries won't be published that's my point.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: quizzaciously on August 25, 2021, 01:58:57 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

(https://sun9-7.userapi.com/impg/6xNhP_sY4i-ynyX88ru0BEIm12C1F1ToR1QcgQ/Ljyol5hh0lk.jpg?size=709x800&quality=96&sign=63a296c11361dfcf356272ecbc2a6906&type=album)
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: qjamesfloyd on August 25, 2021, 02:02:18 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

And Pink Floyd had Nick Mason.

I have to say though, that The Rolling Stones don't so anything for me at all.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 25, 2021, 02:04:25 PM
Do you really think MK could deliver Dire Straits stuff these days, even if he wanted to? I am really astonished that some of you STILL wait for a DS reunion.

LE

Exactly, MK can't play most of the DS catalogue anymore.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: border_reiver on August 25, 2021, 03:54:43 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

(https://sun9-7.userapi.com/impg/6xNhP_sY4i-ynyX88ru0BEIm12C1F1ToR1QcgQ/Ljyol5hh0lk.jpg?size=709x800&quality=96&sign=63a296c11361dfcf356272ecbc2a6906&type=album)

Classy lassie...
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 25, 2021, 06:23:10 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

And Pink Floyd had Nick Mason.

I have to say though, that The Rolling Stones don't so anything for me at all.

I'm with you I'm not a Stones fan by any stretch either....
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 06:28:40 PM
You don't have to be a fan. Charlie Watts was a great drummer, a very good rock and roll band.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 25, 2021, 06:33:30 PM
You don't have to be a fan. Charlie Watts was a great drummer, a very good rock and roll band.

A great Jazz drummer in his time....
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 06:35:59 PM
You don't have to be a fan. Charlie Watts was a great drummer, a very good rock and roll band.

A great Jazz drummer in his time....

Exactly.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Love Expresso on August 25, 2021, 07:23:25 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

Well, Ringo is still alive and hopefully is for a long time which makes this list somewhat strange to me.. I know what MK tried to say but his way with words left him here I think.

LE
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 25, 2021, 07:27:34 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

Well, Ringo is still alive and hopefully is for a long time which makes this list somewhat strange to me.. I know what MK tried to say but his way with words left him here I think.

LE

I think MK is absolutely right in saying The Beatles had a good drummer in Ringo Starr - no matter whether he is alive or dead. Wasnt aware the Beatles were still playing??!
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 07:28:13 PM
The Beatles doesn't exist, and that's what he meant. I think so.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Love Expresso on August 25, 2021, 07:32:51 PM
The Beatles doesn't exist, and that's what he meant. I think so.

It's not about facts, it's about style. But it's just my personal opinion of course.  ;)

LE
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: quizzaciously on August 25, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

Well, Ringo is still alive and hopefully is for a long time which makes this list somewhat strange to me.. I know what MK tried to say but his way with words left him here I think.

LE

More strange to me is the fact that you can continue this list with like 100 other names. Why he chose only this bunch of people? Anyway, Mark probably spends as much time writing all these obituaries as it takes you to read one.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 07:42:57 PM
It's important to me that he mentioned Charlie Watts than if he hadn't written anything.

I remember waiting for a few words about Ennio Morricone. The silence surprised me.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Love Expresso on August 25, 2021, 07:49:25 PM
It's important to me that he mentioned Charlie Watts than if he hadn't written anything.

I remember waiting for a few words about Ennio Morricone. The silence surprised me.

Good point.

LE
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 25, 2021, 07:49:48 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

Well, Ringo is still alive and hopefully is for a long time which makes this list somewhat strange to me.. I know what MK tried to say but his way with words left him here I think.

LE

More strange to me is the fact that you can continue this list with like 100 other names. Why he chose only this bunch of people? Anyway, Mark probably spends as much time writing all these obituaries as it takes you to read one.

Probably these were on his mind at the time, like you say the list is most probably endless!!
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: superval99 on August 25, 2021, 07:52:53 PM
It's important to me that he mentioned Charlie Watts than if he hadn't written anything.

I remember waiting for a few words about Ennio Morricone. The silence surprised me.

Also Liam O'Flynn, but later he contributed to a film about Liam, which kind of made up for the omission.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 07:56:43 PM
It's important to me that he mentioned Charlie Watts than if he hadn't written anything.

I remember waiting for a few words about Ennio Morricone. The silence surprised me.

Also Liam O'Flynn, but later he contributed to a film about Liam, which kind of made up for the omission.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: superval99 on August 25, 2021, 07:57:16 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

Well, Ringo is still alive and hopefully is for a long time which makes this list somewhat strange to me.. I know what MK tried to say but his way with words left him here I think.

LE

More strange to me is the fact that you can continue this list with like 100 other names. Why he chose only this bunch of people? Anyway, Mark probably spends as much time writing all these obituaries as it takes you to read one.

Probably these were on his mind at the time, like you say the list is most probably endless!!

This was a list of drummers and Charlie was a drummer, that was why he chose these particular people.   Apart from Ringo, all have died and The Beatles are no more either!
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 08:08:23 PM
It's important to me that he mentioned Charlie Watts than if he hadn't written anything.

I remember waiting for a few words about Ennio Morricone. The silence surprised me.

Good point.

LE

Thank you LE:)
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: PensaGhost on August 25, 2021, 08:25:27 PM
It's important to me that he mentioned Charlie Watts than if he hadn't written anything.

I remember waiting for a few words about Ennio Morricone. The silence surprised me.

that's exactly why MK shouldn't write any of these, you always forget someone

are there other artists who constantly write obituaries on their websites ? I guess not many
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 25, 2021, 08:31:05 PM
For example Peter Gabriel.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: qjamesfloyd on August 26, 2021, 01:40:41 PM
I was also suprised about no words for Liam O'Flynn at the time, also another person he played with died recently, Nanci Griffith, I don't believe he mentioned her, he doesn't have to make a public statement about everyone who dies, he might also make private comments to the family that we don't know about, and probably shouldn't know about. As for the drummers he mentions, so what, they were they ones that came to his mind at the time, we shouldn't read to much into everything he says or states!!
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Robson on August 26, 2021, 01:43:49 PM
That's true.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 26, 2021, 03:58:42 PM
I find it more interesting when he comments on the death of people from different genres to hi, like George Michael or Prince.
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: PensaGhost on August 26, 2021, 07:11:04 PM
I miss the times when musicians released music and that's all
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: JF on August 30, 2021, 12:10:50 PM
that list doesn't surprises me. they are just the most famous and greatest bands in rock history imho

you might not like them that's another story.
But in terms of celebrity, influence, reference, importance etc.. I think that Mark chose the exact right list of dummers/bands
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: Knopflerfan on August 30, 2021, 06:41:14 PM
that list doesn't surprises me. they are just the most famous and greatest bands in rock history imho

you might not like them that's another story.
But in terms of celebrity, influence, reference, importance etc.. I think that Mark chose the exact right list of dummers/bands

Quite agree with you...
Title: Re: Charlie Watts - RIP
Post by: PensaGhost on August 30, 2021, 08:57:45 PM
'Yesterday marks another sad farewell, to Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.

A great band so often has a great drummer who’s individuality and style play an essential part in creating the character, the magic recipe of the music. The Beatles had Ringo Starr, The Who had Keith Moon, The Band had Levon Helm, Led Zeppelin had John Bonham and the Stones had Charlie Watts.’ – MK

^^^^^Dire Straits had Pick Withers but I benched him, then I benched also the 2nd one^^^^^^