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Title: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Darling Pretty on September 15, 2021, 06:56:32 PM
Hi,

just received the new Joe Bonamassa newsletter and it said that JB plays on the new DION record which will be released Nov 5th.
Just browsed all artists who also play on it...

Billy F. Gibbons
Bruce Springsteen
Eric Clapton
Sonny Landreth

and also our master on it.
Didn't knew that. The track is called: Dancing Girl

May buy that one
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2021, 07:06:37 PM
I don't see MK there :think
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 07:09:52 PM
Yep, had that email too...

Track Listing:

Take It Back with Joe Bonamassa
Hey Diddle Diddle with G.E. Smith
Dancing Girl with Mark Knopfler
If You Wanna Rock ‘n’ Roll with Eric Clapton
There Was A Time with Peter Frampton
Cryin’ Shame with Sonny Landreth
The Night Is Young with Joe Menza and Wayne Hood
That’s What The Doctor Said with Steve Conn
My Stomping Ground with Billy F Gibbons
Angel In the Alleyways with Patti Scialfa and Bruce Springsteen
I’ve Got To Get To You with Boz Scaggs, Joe Menza and Mike Menza
Red House with Keb’ Mo’
I Got My Eyes On You Baby with Marcia Ball and Jimmy Vivino
I’ve Been Watching with Rickie Lee Jones and Wayne Hood
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 07:10:11 PM
I don't see MK there :think

Look again!!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2021, 07:12:16 PM
I was looking at another album. My mistake. Sorry. I'm glad :)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Pottel on September 15, 2021, 07:12:46 PM
nice collection of collaborators! may need to get this one too!!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 07:14:12 PM
Dion & JB!!
https://youtu.be/NA2MgUqNp-0
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: superval99 on September 15, 2021, 07:15:27 PM
Really enjoyed "Take It Back" especially JB's guitar! 
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on September 15, 2021, 07:21:03 PM
Don't want to be "that" guy, but I'm not too excited for another blues collaboration and a song I'll hear only once in my life... Better collaborations maybe? Eh?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2021, 07:24:38 PM
Don't want to be "that" guy, but I'm not too excited for another blues collaboration and a song I'll hear only once in my life... Better collaborations maybe? Eh?

Why only once?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 07:26:24 PM
Can't please everyone! I'm grateful Joe & MK are at least recording something....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 07:27:25 PM
Really enjoyed "Take It Back" especially JB's guitar!

It is rather good, and as you can hear JB HAS matured both with his playing and also his singing too....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: superval99 on September 15, 2021, 07:39:26 PM
Really enjoyed "Take It Back" especially JB's guitar!

It is rather good, and as you can hear JB HAS matured both with his playing and also his singing too....

I didn't hear him singing!   ;D
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2021, 07:43:34 PM
I wonder if Mark will sing or just play the guitar.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 07:43:39 PM
Really enjoyed "Take It Back" especially JB's guitar!

It is rather good, and as you can hear JB HAS matured both with his playing and also his singing too....

I didn't hear him singing!   ;D

I didn't mean on that track! If you were to hear JB's newer material... ;)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 07:44:04 PM
I wonder if Mark will sing or just play the guitar.

Can't wait to find out!!!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2021, 07:49:13 PM
Me too. We will know on November 5.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 08:08:06 PM
Me too. We will know on November 5.

Maybe sooner??!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2021, 08:16:04 PM
Yes that's right, it's just an official date.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Darling Pretty on September 15, 2021, 08:53:06 PM
Really enjoyed "Take It Back" especially JB's guitar!

It is rather good, and as you can hear JB HAS matured both with his playing and also his singing too....

I didn't hear him singing!   ;D

I didn't mean on that track! If you were to hear JB's newer material... ;)

Cannot wait to hear the new JB Album. I know that will be a killer.
Bob Clearmountain said: The best album he has heard in a long time.
Didn't Bob mix On every street also?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2021, 09:27:19 PM
"Didn't Bob mix On every street also?

Yes :)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 09:53:19 PM
Really enjoyed "Take It Back" especially JB's guitar!

It is rather good, and as you can hear JB HAS matured both with his playing and also his singing too....

I didn't hear him singing!   ;D

I didn't mean on that track! If you were to hear JB's newer material... ;)

Cannot wait to hear the new JB Album. I know that will be a killer.
Bob Clearmountain said: The best album he has heard in a long time.
Didn't Bob mix On every street also?

Royal Tea was epic too, so his new album 'Time Clocks' has a lot resting on it....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 15, 2021, 09:54:40 PM
Don't want to be "that" guy, but I'm not too excited for another blues collaboration and a song I'll hear only once in my life... Better collaborations maybe? Eh?
Dion isn’t really a blues artist so it may not be a blues track with MK.

The last Dion album had a really nice collaboration with Paul Simon.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 09:59:26 PM
Don't want to be "that" guy, but I'm not too excited for another blues collaboration and a song I'll hear only once in my life... Better collaborations maybe? Eh?
Dion isn’t really a blues artist so it may not be a blues track with MK.

The last Dion album had a really nice collaboration with Paul Simon.

For those who haven't got the foggiest who Dion is here is a link to Wikipedia to get an idea....He is not as Dusty rightly says an all out Blues singer. He is aged 82 by the way!

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_DiMucci
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on September 15, 2021, 10:17:54 PM
Don't want to be "that" guy, but I'm not too excited for another blues collaboration and a song I'll hear only once in my life... Better collaborations maybe? Eh?
Dion isn’t really a blues artist so it may not be a blues track with MK.

The last Dion album had a really nice collaboration with Paul Simon.

For those who haven't got the foggiest who Dion is here is a link to Wikipedia to get an idea....He is not as Dusty rightly says an all out Blues singer. He is aged 82 by the way!

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_DiMucci

I first heard Dion when I was something like 8 or something, can't remember, it was a VHS and the movie "Hot Shots!". The movie was already pretty old when I first watched it. By the way, despite the movie being such a ridiculous comedy filled with 18+ jokes, I remember it also features one of the best versions of Gershwin's classic "The Man I Love":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6oa0lb5vx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VkW_zF5Do
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Marnix on September 15, 2021, 10:21:13 PM
Looking forward to this album
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 10:21:21 PM
Hot Shots! Blimus, showing your age Mr Pavel!!! :lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on September 15, 2021, 10:26:30 PM
Hot Shots! Blimus, showing your age Mr Pavel!!! :lol

Haha! Yes, I consider myself lucky that in my preadolescence I had my fair share of the world with rotary phones, cassettes, VHS, classic 90s songs and movies, and no internet.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 15, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
Hot Shots! Blimus, showing your age Mr Pavel!!! :lol

Haha! Yes, I consider myself lucky that in my preadolescence I had my fair share of the world with rotary phones, classic 90s songs and movies, and no internet.

Good memories! Yes similar to you a world of cassette tapes, classic 80's hits, no internet and above all no crappy social media!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 16, 2021, 08:09:12 AM
Looking forward to this album

Indeed it should be very good.....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: superval99 on September 16, 2021, 09:01:08 AM
I always liked "The Wanderer" and "Runaround Sue" by Dion - a long time ago!  :)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: peterromer on September 16, 2021, 11:01:44 AM
 ;D ;D

I read Dion and thought "What ??, Mark Knopfler and Celine Dion ????"....... :lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 16, 2021, 11:12:54 AM
;D ;D

I read Dion and thought "What ??, Mark Knopfler and Celine Dion ????"....... :lol

Now that would be a pairing I'd love to hear!!!!! :clap
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 16, 2021, 11:14:07 AM
I always liked "The Wanderer" and "Runaround Sue" by Dion - a long time ago!  :)

How about 'You know it's Christmas' with Joe??
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 16, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
https://www.noise11.com/news/dion-rounds-up-more-friends-for-stomping-ground-20210916

Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Eddie Fox on September 16, 2021, 05:33:43 PM
For a second I thought it was Celine…
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Kris-b on September 16, 2021, 05:35:02 PM
For a second I thought it was Celine…

Me too 😀
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 16, 2021, 08:30:04 PM
For a second I thought it was Celine…

If only!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on September 16, 2021, 08:37:09 PM
Bob Clearmountain said: The best album he has heard in a long time.
Didn't Bob mix On every street also?

yes but only Heavy Fuel unfortunately, great mix clearly

we also have his mix of Calling Elvis available through a promo cd which unfortunately didn't make it on the album,
it's clearly superior imo
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Love Expresso on September 16, 2021, 10:04:26 PM
Do we?

Found it. Something for High End fetishists.
Don't expect too much.  ;D
LE
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on November 15, 2021, 07:09:00 PM
Has anyone listened to the album?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Darling Pretty on November 15, 2021, 08:13:44 PM
is it out already?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on November 15, 2021, 08:17:04 PM
MKNews: November 5.

Dion website: November 19  :think
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Elin N on November 16, 2021, 03:32:22 PM
And now the news that he contributes on a documentary about Alan Hull. Yes I do discover "new" (old) artists and that is nice, but it really seems like his own album is the very last thing he wants to do right now..
I realize I have joined the whiny-club  :-[ :-\  :P
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on November 16, 2021, 09:34:02 PM
We all know that if it wasn't Covid the album would be ready. And everything would be different.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: JF on November 19, 2021, 09:57:14 AM
https://youtu.be/sBqrY1bObHk
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: superval99 on November 19, 2021, 10:10:44 AM
https://youtu.be/sBqrY1bObHk

Thank you, JF.    Loved it, especially MK's fantastic guitar sound - such a lot of it too, which isn't always the case when MK does collaborations.   :)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: JF on November 19, 2021, 10:14:40 AM
Thank you, JF.    Loved it, especially MK's fantastic guitar sound - such a lot of it too, which isn't always the case when MK does collaborations.   :)

yes I thought exactly the same
and damn, why doesn't he play such guitar parts on his own songs ?.....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on November 19, 2021, 12:58:30 PM
Wow! MK guitar wins here.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 19, 2021, 02:57:15 PM
By jove, that's just absolutely freaking awesome! Lovely sound from MK...
There's probably more guitar from MK on this track than on the whole DTRW album!!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Dutchessy on November 19, 2021, 06:18:18 PM
Official videoclip with MK playing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: relaxcoustic on November 19, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
Official videoclip with MK playing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU


I feel like the Les Paul sound would be much more suiting here..
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: KnopfleRick on November 19, 2021, 06:31:23 PM
Wow, Mark sounds good and looks good.  :clap
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 19, 2021, 06:31:50 PM
Official videoclip with MK playing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU


I feel like the Les Paul sound would be much more suiting here..

Maybe so! But let me tell you, I wanted to see MK perform in 2021, but I couldn't imagine that would be in the form of a green-screened overly produced 20% transparency and cut all over the place performance in a video with a cute chick dancing! Mark sure can surprise! :lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dmg on November 19, 2021, 06:45:13 PM
Nice sound and I think the Strat is right for this song but I'm not totally convinced.  The whole pace seems to drop when it's his turn to solo as he appears to be confused as to what he should be playing.  Maybe the style just isn't him.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: superval99 on November 19, 2021, 06:54:13 PM
Nice sound and I think the Strat is right for this song but I'm not totally convinced.  The whole pace seems to drop when it's his turn to solo as he appears to be confused as to what he should be playing.  Maybe the style just isn't him.

I loved every minute of it and I thought it suited MK perfectly - so did Mr Val - he loved it too!    ;D  Actually I think it was better without the video.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: KnopfleRick on November 19, 2021, 07:17:13 PM
Why can't you just sit back and enjoy instead of always having something to complain about?  :disbelief
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on November 19, 2021, 07:22:25 PM
Wow, Mark sounds good and looks good.  :clap

Yes  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 19, 2021, 09:06:17 PM
Official videoclip with MK playing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU


I feel like the Les Paul sound would be much more suiting here..

Wooooohooooo! Absolutely awesome and MK looks well...nah the Strat is king here!!!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 19, 2021, 11:54:37 PM
Official videoclip with MK playing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU)


The song itself isn't too bad, but they couldn't make the video look cheaper and more amateurish if they tried. High school kids on YouTube make better videos.


It's nice to hear Mark play a bit again, although it's completely autopilot, muscle memory stuff.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2021, 12:40:34 AM
Official videoclip with MK playing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU)


The song itself isn't too bad, but they couldn't make the video look cheaper and more amateurish if they tried. High school kids on YouTube make better videos.


It's nice to hear Mark play a bit again, although it's completely autopilot, muscle memory stuff.

Where's Henrik Hansen when you need him? :lol

I also was baffled by the quality, but let's be clear, that was the original idea apparently. Probably edited by Dion himself, so no high expectations there.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 12:59:39 AM
Kemper + 100% copy and paste guitar licks + super low quality video = great stuff  :clap :clap
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 20, 2021, 09:31:37 AM
Official videoclip with MK playing :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU)


The song itself isn't too bad, but they couldn't make the video look cheaper and more amateurish if they tried. High school kids on YouTube make better videos.


It's nice to hear Mark play a bit again, although it's completely autopilot, muscle memory stuff.

Where's Henrik Hansen when you need him? :lol

I also was baffled by the quality, but let's be clear, that was the original idea apparently. Probably edited by Dion himself, so no high expectations there.

The quality of the video didn't surprise me as nothing really changes with Dion's video's
Dion with JB for example..
https://youtu.be/NA2MgUqNp-0
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: straitsway75 on November 20, 2021, 10:17:07 AM
Tonight the guitar of this song surrended me,  Mark Is the One  :clap
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 10:32:26 AM
Kemper + 100% copy and paste guitar licks + super low quality video = great stuff  :clap :clap
Lol, it’s a funny line but you really have no clue if he’s using kemper here or not.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: jbaent on November 20, 2021, 11:14:25 AM
Kemper + 100% copy and paste guitar licks + super low quality video = great stuff  :clap :clap
Lol, it’s a funny line but you really have no clue if he’s using kemper here or not.

He probably did that in his studio, so I hope he wasn't lazy enough to use a Kemper and used some of the real deals he has there!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 11:18:23 AM
Exactly, he has loads of classic amps at BG.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
Kemper + 100% copy and paste guitar licks + super low quality video = great stuff  :clap :clap
Lol, it’s a funny line but you really have no clue if he’s using kemper here or not.

He probably did that in his studio, so I hope he wasn't lazy enough to use a Kemper and used some of the real deals he has there!

It's only me or Mark seems to live in his studio these days? Reading books, recording videos, signing guitars, listening to songs. I wonder how much time he spends there? I think Mark played similar stuff on Beryl already and since then had no songs that would demand playing like this, and I don't mind.

I don't know about Kemper, but I'd bet he used it and, as always, not a single soul care (apart from PensaGhost!). And it's not about laziness as I believe modulating amps are even harder to set-up than real ones. With real ones you just plug it in, move knobs a little and go with it. And modulating amps have everything customised to the smallest bit, it's not the gear for lazy people that's for sure!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: jbaent on November 20, 2021, 11:33:04 AM
A Kemper could make sense for a tour because it avoid you to have to transport many amps, some of them really expensive and delicate, but in a recording studio of your own, where you have all your stuff, you have to be really lazy to use a Kemper instead of the real hings...

A friend of mine who is a guitar player says it sounds like he used the tone king. I trust his ears, mine are shit, as I thought he was playing a Les Paul, lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
A Kemper could make sense for a tour because it avoid you to have to transport many amps, some of them really expensive and delicate, but in a recording studio of your own, where you have all your stuff, you have to be really lazy to use a Kemper instead of the real hings...

A friend of mine who is a guitar player says it sounds like he used the tone king. I trust his ears, mine are shit, as I thought he was playing a Les Paul, lol

Yes, your friend might be absolutely right. I believe Mark used Tone King also in his Signature Gibson video? A go-to amplifier... That's surely a more reasonable approach than Kemper. However, what if Dion wanted clear signal for his song? Hmmm... I think it would change his approach. My ears may be even worse when it comes to this sounds comparisons, I can hear a smallest detail in the song but at the same time never was an audiophile at all. To me, if it sounds good, it sounds good, simple as that.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 12:03:11 PM
MK doing a video like this (even remotely) is unusual, so this is good.

I’m not sure how an 80 year old man dancing with a young woman looks in the current climate though, it’s a bit cringe.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 20, 2021, 01:30:55 PM
This is a brilliant track, I don't know Dion, but I enjoyed this. I play guitar, and I couldn't care less what amp Mark uses live or studio, what matters is his fingers, and how he uses them on the fretboard, I remember someone said about David Gilmour, "Give him a mandolin and he will make it sound like a Stradivarius" the same applies to Mark Knopfler. It is not lazy using a Kemper, it is just something different, and if he likes it, great, if he thinks it's a good idea, great, he can choose any guitar or amp out there, he has the money, talent, and influence, I like that he is willing to try something different. This video is clearly because of COVID, Mark couldn't travel, so this is the next best thing. Let's celebrate the song and Dion and Mark's performance, the guitar is wonderful, and the song sounds like Communique era Dire Straits, so I think Mark was the best choice for it.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: jbaent on November 20, 2021, 01:42:26 PM
In covid times, a divided two screens would had been better, like they are doing a video conference... Like this, it's weird, but cool to see MK playing, it's an effort he didn't for Tommy Emmanuel, for example.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on November 20, 2021, 01:51:55 PM
This is a brilliant track, I don't know Dion, but I enjoyed this. I play guitar, and I couldn't care less what amp Mark uses live or studio, what matters is his fingers, and how he uses them on the fretboard, I remember someone said about David Gilmour, "Give him a mandolin and he will make it sound like a Stradivarius" the same applies to Mark Knopfler. It is not lazy using a Kemper, it is just something different, and if he likes it, great, if he thinks it's a good idea, great, he can choose any guitar or amp out there, he has the money, talent, and influence, I like that he is willing to try something different. This video is clearly because of COVID, Mark couldn't travel, so this is the next best thing. Let's celebrate the song and Dion and Mark's performance, the guitar is wonderful, and the song sounds like Communique era Dire Straits, so I think Mark was the best choice for it.

I fully agree. It's good that you wrote it because I do not understand the considerations Kemper or not Kemper. Mark sounds great.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2021, 01:52:11 PM
In covid times, a divided two screens would had been better, like they are doing a video conference... Like this, it's weird, but cool to see MK playing, it's an effort he didn't for Tommy Emmanuel, for example.

Yes, it was insane actually since Tommy recorded videos with pretty much everyone else but MK. Mark hate videos that's for sure...
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 03:43:27 PM
This is a brilliant track, I don't know Dion, but I enjoyed this. I play guitar, and I couldn't care less what amp Mark uses live or studio, what matters is his fingers, and how he uses them on the fretboard, I remember someone said about David Gilmour, "Give him a mandolin and he will make it sound like a Stradivarius" the same applies to Mark Knopfler. It is not lazy using a Kemper, it is just something different, and if he likes it, great, if he thinks it's a good idea, great, he can choose any guitar or amp out there, he has the money, talent, and influence, I like that he is willing to try something different. This video is clearly because of COVID, Mark couldn't travel, so this is the next best thing. Let's celebrate the song and Dion and Mark's performance, the guitar is wonderful, and the song sounds like Communique era Dire Straits, so I think Mark was the best choice for it.
Even with no COVID, I don’t believe MK would have travelled to the states to film a video for Dion.

Still a lot of effort for MK, I’m sure when it came time to film the video he could not remember what he played, or what takes they used, so he would have had to relearn it.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 20, 2021, 03:55:30 PM
I agree, I don't think he would either, but the point is, it really doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2021, 04:01:38 PM
This is a brilliant track, I don't know Dion, but I enjoyed this. I play guitar, and I couldn't care less what amp Mark uses live or studio, what matters is his fingers, and how he uses them on the fretboard, I remember someone said about David Gilmour, "Give him a mandolin and he will make it sound like a Stradivarius" the same applies to Mark Knopfler. It is not lazy using a Kemper, it is just something different, and if he likes it, great, if he thinks it's a good idea, great, he can choose any guitar or amp out there, he has the money, talent, and influence, I like that he is willing to try something different. This video is clearly because of COVID, Mark couldn't travel, so this is the next best thing. Let's celebrate the song and Dion and Mark's performance, the guitar is wonderful, and the song sounds like Communique era Dire Straits, so I think Mark was the best choice for it.
Even with no COVID, I don’t believe MK would have travelled to the states to film a video for Dion.

Still a lot of effort for MK, I’m sure when it came time to film the video he could not remember what he played, or what takes they used, so he would have had to relearn it.

I believe Mark recorded actual takes and since all the solos were edited from different takes, like they usually are, they ended up just fading from one clip to another all the time. I know this because I tried to record multiple takes like this on camera and it looks terrible... I did that in my "Jam Man" Chet Atkins cover since I wanted to drop this video really fast, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 04:36:08 PM
A Kemper could make sense for a tour because it avoid you to have to transport many amps, some of them really expensive and delicate, but in a recording studio of your own, where you have all your stuff, you have to be really lazy to use a Kemper instead of the real hings...

A friend of mine who is a guitar player says it sounds like he used the tone king. I trust his ears, mine are shit, as I thought he was playing a Les Paul, lol

Sure, let's save $1000 to have a crap sound the whole tour, I think Gilmour would kill himself rather than doing it
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
I don't know about Kemper, but I'd bet he used it and, as always, not a single soul care (apart from PensaGhost!).

Every guitarist that contacted me after knowing MK uses the kemper asked me the same question
which is 'Is he an idiot ?'

Even Marcus Cliffe, the guy who showed the Kemper to Mark for the first time, publicly revealed he advised MK not to use it

If you don't care about a Kemper or not it's because you are an amateur who can't hear the difference of quality,
which is HUGE, especially on distorted sounds.

and btw there's nothing wrong about being an amateur, 95% of the people don't know if MK is using a Gibson or a Fender or any guitar during a concert, let alone a kemper or not, and most of them don't even know the name of the songs

Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 05:29:13 PM
You’re pretty much the only person who thought he had bad sound on the tour.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 05:51:04 PM
You’re pretty much the only person who thought he had bad sound on the tour.

Speak for yourself and behave in a civilized manner, you have no idea who thought he had a bad sound

In my Milan 2019 review I wrote 8.5/10 compared to the usual 10/10, which isn't necessarily bad, it's very bad compared to the usual 10/10

If you can't hear any difference between a real amp and a kemper I am sorry for you, or actually I am happy for you,
the ones who don't even know the name of the songs probably enjoy the concert at 101%
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2021, 05:59:14 PM
You’re pretty much the only person who thought he had bad sound on the tour.

In my Milan 2019 review I wrote 8.5/10 compared to the usual 10/10, which isn't necessarily bad, it's very bad compared to the usual 10/10

If you can't hear any difference between a real amp and a kemper I am sorry for you, or actually I am happy for you,
the ones who don't even know the name of the songs probably enjoy the concert at 101%

I think jbaent also said something about it. I think this topic is pretty dead-ended, firstly because everybody will stay with their opinion and a die-hard old-school guy will never accept Kemper as even an emergency replacement for a real amp and those who are able to move along with technology will do just that... Second, there's no definitive answer at all. While yes, digital will never replace old-school, at the end of the day, it serves the purpose of sharing and enjoying the music, and I think this is more important than gear. I'd rather have great music with questionable gear than mediocrity played on a state-of-the-art gear.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of technology and have been using emulating amps since the mid-2000s and witnessed a long way it went from absolute garbage to usable and good sounding technology. I think a lot of people are biased the same way people were against mp3 when it came out, and with time it improved to the point of sounding exactly as a source in 320 kbps, but people remembered how it used to sound. Same with modulating amps, I still remember those being VERY bad... You could barely use it for practice, let alone touring and recording.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 06:01:03 PM
Yes, the new stuff is getting better all the time.

I have a Quilter as a backup and it’s great.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 06:06:36 PM
You’re pretty much the only person who thought he had bad sound on the tour.

In my Milan 2019 review I wrote 8.5/10 compared to the usual 10/10, which isn't necessarily bad, it's very bad compared to the usual 10/10

If you can't hear any difference between a real amp and a kemper I am sorry for you, or actually I am happy for you,
the ones who don't even know the name of the songs probably enjoy the concert at 101%

I think jbaent also said something about it. I think this topic is pretty dead-ended, firstly because everybody will stay with their opinion and a die-hard old-school guy will never accept Kemper as even an emergency replacement for a real amp and those who are able to move along with technology will do just that... Second, there's no definitive answer at all. While yes, digital will never replace old-school, at the end of the day, it serves the purpose of sharing and enjoying the music, and I think this is more important than gear. I'd rather have great music with questionable gear than mediocrity played on a state-of-the-art gear.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of technology and have been using emulating amps since the mid-2000s and witnessed a long way it went from absolute garbage to usable and good sounding technology. I think a lot of people are biased the same way people were against mp3 when it came out, and with time it improved to the point of sounding exactly as a source in 320 kbps, but people remembered how it used to sound. Same with modulating amps, I still remember those being VERY bad... You could barely use it for practice, let alone touring and recording.

If I was alive and could play just 10 minutes without pain, I would surely buy a Kemper or a Fractal AxeFX 3 the same day, they have excellent sound and it's great to have many sounds and many amps in just 1 machine,
but they do NOT have a 10/10 sound of a great real amp,

a guitar god who tours with a kemper vs a real amp is just ridiculous imo, that's the point, don't tell me he doesn't have the money or the crew to have a real amp for god's sake
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 20, 2021, 06:19:00 PM
I'd buy it too if I'd have enough money! Your main point is that artists of Mark's calibre shouldn't use modulating amps, and I agree. It's like, I don't know, Steven Spielberg would go out and start shooting movies on iPhone. But the funny thing is that he actually can do it! And it will even look great. This is great thing about technology, sometimes it gets to the point when like Clarke's third rule says, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.".

You just plug in a guitar in a box and it sounds like a million amps in one? That's magic! You just take a phone that with you everywhere you go and shoot a great looking HDR video in 4K and ProRes after hitting just 1 button? And then edit it right on a phone? That's magic! And people love magic and love to embrace that. Mark, going on tour with Kemper, sets the stage for this and other companies to improve and make their products even better. Imagine Mark going everywhere and telling Kemper sucks. That wouldn't be good for both parties...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
I'd buy it too if I'd have enough money! Your main point is that artists of Mark's calibre shouldn't use modulating amps, and I agree. It's like, I don't know, Steven Spielberg would go out and start shooting movies on iPhone. But the funny thing is that he actually can do it! And it will even look great. This is great thing about technology, sometimes it gets to the point when like Clarke's third rule says, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.".

You just plug in a guitar in a box and it sounds like a million amps in one? That's magic! You just take a phone that with you everywhere you go and shoot a great looking HDR video in 4K and ProRes after hitting just 1 button? And then edit it right on a phone? That's magic! And people love magic and love to embrace that. Mark, going on tour with Kemper, sets the stage for this and other companies to improve and make their products even better. Imagine Mark going everywhere and telling Kemper sucks. That wouldn't be good for both parties...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws)
Steven Soderberg makes films on iPhones…


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Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 06:48:24 PM
I'd buy it too if I'd have enough money! Your main point is that artists of Mark's calibre shouldn't use modulating amps, and I agree.

Yes, that's my only point
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 08:24:22 PM
I'd buy it too if I'd have enough money! Your main point is that artists of Mark's calibre shouldn't use modulating amps, and I agree.

Yes, that's my only point
Which shows did you see on the 2019 tour?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 08:40:09 PM
I'd buy it too if I'd have enough money! Your main point is that artists of Mark's calibre shouldn't use modulating amps, and I agree.

Yes, that's my only point
Which shows did you see on the 2019 tour?

Milan + Verona
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: jbaent on November 20, 2021, 08:40:54 PM
I noticed something weird in MK guitar sound in the very first concert IN Barcelona , like lot of distorsión, no clean sound on their guitars but very dirty, and I didn't know he was using Kemper. But I knew there was something different.

For me that song ruined the solos in STP, usually very clean and shiny, but it was rough, dirty, I didn't like it.

I know many people wouldn't notice anything at all, also many people doesn't know the difference between any guitar Richard uses or even what a bass is.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 08:53:02 PM
I'd buy it too if I'd have enough money! Your main point is that artists of Mark's calibre shouldn't use modulating amps, and I agree.

Yes, that's my only point
Which shows did you see on the 2019 tour?

Milan + Verona
Apologies, it was meant for Quizzy as the biggest Kember hater.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 20, 2021, 09:14:01 PM
And how exactly do we know that he used a Kemper here?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
And how exactly do we know that he used a Kemper here?
We don’t.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 20, 2021, 09:31:11 PM
And how exactly do we know that he used a Kemper here?
We don’t.


Right.


Half full, half empty. Always safe to go for the pessimistic, negative option, I guess.


 ::)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 20, 2021, 09:36:39 PM
And how exactly do we know that he used a Kemper here?
We don’t.


Right.


Half full, half empty. Always safe to go for the pessimistic, negative option, I guess.


 ::)

I couldn't care less what he used in a song I will never listen to again, I was talking mainly about the last tour and as a consequence the future tours also
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 20, 2021, 09:59:36 PM
Future tours?? - nah....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 20, 2021, 10:33:23 PM
And how exactly do we know that he used a Kemper here?
We don’t.


Right.


Half full, half empty. Always safe to go for the pessimistic, negative option, I guess.


 ::)
Only one person has come up with that theory, the overall feedback for this collaboration has been overwhelmingly positive.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 20, 2021, 11:03:40 PM
And how exactly do we know that he used a Kemper here?
We don’t.


Right.


Half full, half empty. Always safe to go for the pessimistic, negative option, I guess.


 ::)
Only one person has come up with that theory, the overall feedback for this collaboration has been overwhelmingly positive.


I was referring to that person. Same old, same old.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 02:42:40 PM
Only one person has come up with that theory, the overall feedback for this collaboration has been overwhelmingly positive.

Congratulations for your attempt to bully me
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 21, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
Email received this afternoon from Joe Bonamasa (not personally!) But it's the weekly Sunday Cup of Joe email where he sends a video of anything he likes - today's is Dion featuring MK!!! Nice....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 02:43:41 PM
I was referring to that person. Same old, same old.

Congratulations for your attempt to bully me
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 21, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Only one person has come up with that theory, the overall feedback for this collaboration has been overwhelmingly positive.

Congratulations for your attempt to bully me

Moving on.....clearly off thread here now  :disbelief
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 02:45:48 PM
Only one person has come up with that theory, the overall feedback for this collaboration has been overwhelmingly positive.

Congratulations for your attempt to bully me

Moving on.....clearly off thread here now  :disbelief

I only expressed my opinion and they are trying to bully me just because they don't agree
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 21, 2021, 02:50:38 PM
Only one person has come up with that theory, the overall feedback for this collaboration has been overwhelmingly positive.

Congratulations for your attempt to bully me

Moving on.....clearly off thread here now  :disbelief

I only expressed my opinion and they are trying to bully me just because they don't agree

EVERYONE has a right to an opinion on here but personally I couldn't sense any bullying...We have to accept that some including me aren't fussed whether a Kemper is used or not although I prefer older tube amps but it is MKs choice at the end of the day isn't it?!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 02:56:19 PM
Only one person has come up with that theory, the overall feedback for this collaboration has been overwhelmingly positive.

Congratulations for your attempt to bully me

Moving on.....clearly off thread here now  :disbelief

I only expressed my opinion and they are trying to bully me just because they don't agree

EVERYONE has a right to an opinion on here but personally I couldn't sense any bullying...We have to accept that some including me aren't fussed whether a Kemper is used or not although I prefer older tube amps but it is MKs choice at the end of the day isn't it?!

You couldn't sense any bullying because you haven't followed their previous attempts which have gone on for months/years





Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 21, 2021, 04:21:37 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 04:35:41 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper


Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 21, 2021, 04:39:40 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper
Incorrect my friend, I said you were the only one to suggest that the Dion track used a Kemper.

I consider your attempt to misrepresent what I said to be a form of cyber-bullying.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 04:47:26 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper
Incorrect my friend, I said you were the only one to suggest that the Dion track used a Kemper.

I consider your attempt to misrepresent what I said to be a form of cyber-bullying.

too much fun, you don't even have the decency to admit what you wrote the previous day

(https://i.postimg.cc/Pf1zyZ5N/dusty.jpg)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 21, 2021, 04:48:25 PM
So I didn’t say you were the only person then.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 21, 2021, 05:08:36 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper

I'm getting a bit hacked off keep reading about the fecking Kemper now....MK uses them so what!

Perhaps this thread had run its course now?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 21, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper

I'm getting a bit hacked off keep hearing about the fecking Kemper now....MK uses them so what!
Yes, this is very boring chat and I find the cyber-bullying towards me to be extremely emotionally triggering.

I’m going to turn off AMIT and go and play my guitar instead.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 05:15:57 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper

I'm getting a bit hacked off keep reading about the fecking Kemper now....MK uses them so what!

Perhaps this thread had run its course now?

Exactly, we can't comment on what MK uses or not, this is not a forum,
how people dare to make you lose some seconds reading this crap ?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 21, 2021, 05:20:17 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper

I'm getting a bit hacked off keep reading about the fecking Kemper now....MK uses them so what!

Perhaps this thread had run its course now?

Exactly, we can't comment on what MK uses or not, this is not a forum,
how people dare to make you lose some seconds reading this crap ?  ;D ;D

Correct KemperGhost.... :lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 05:23:16 PM
I personally don’t see how pointing out that your opinion is a minority one is in any way, shape or form bullying, but if anyone thinks it is then they should report the “offending” posts and they will be reviewed by the other moderators and action will be taken against any individual who is deemed to have broken the rules.

You are already changing the cards eh, 1 thing is saying I am in minority, completely another thing is writing several times that I am the only one with that opinion both for this song and for the last tour, which is an extremely arrogant thing to do, speak for youself, you have no idea how many people didn't like the kemper

I'm getting a bit hacked off keep reading about the fecking Kemper now....MK uses them so what!

Perhaps this thread had run its course now?

Exactly, we can't comment on what MK uses or not, this is not a forum,
how people dare to make you lose some seconds reading this crap ?  ;D ;D

Correct KemperGhost.... :lol

KemperGhost lol not bad, Man I am so so so excited I will buy 1 Kemper in the next life, you have no idea  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: MagicElliott on November 21, 2021, 05:28:28 PM
Kettle on anyone?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 21, 2021, 05:40:26 PM
(https://gifs.cackhanded.net/the-fast-show/monkfish/knickers-on.gif)


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 21, 2021, 05:50:27 PM
(https://gifs.cackhanded.net/the-fast-show/monkfish/knickers-on.gif)


 ;D ;D ;D

Heee heee
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2021, 05:53:57 PM
Kettle on anyone?

no kettle, we like only kemper here
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: jbaent on November 21, 2021, 06:41:50 PM
Song already added to the Spotify colaborations playlist:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1sI0IHsBN6GiStsiqeST5y?si=eKAT2OGCTmuxgkjecNvKYQ&utm_source=copy-link
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 22, 2021, 05:04:10 PM
Just for the record, there’s no such thing as clean guitar tones in live gigs when you’re in a big band like Mark’s. You need some saturation in order to cut through the mix otherwise your guitar will be buried under the other instruments. That being said I quite liked Mark’s playing and tone in Dion’s tune. Can’t say the same about the videoclip though lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Pottel on November 23, 2021, 07:54:37 AM
really, REALLY liked Marks contribution, but the rest of the album ain't bad either! finally some good mk "news" in 2021.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on November 23, 2021, 08:46:32 PM
A Kemper could make sense for a tour because it avoid you to have to transport many amps, some of them really expensive and delicate, but in a recording studio of your own, where you have all your stuff, you have to be really lazy to use a Kemper instead of the real hings...

The Kemper is used on Back On The Dancefloor and One Song At A Time. You can get sounds from the Kemper that you can't get from a real amp and vice versa. Whether he used it on this track or not, it's just a 'new' toy for him, he never plays decades on the same gear.

My biggest problem with the Kemper still is dynamics. You can get beautiful clean sounds out of it, but it just doesn't breathe. Even on the best 2019 recordings, and taking his rusty fingers in account, you can hear it's challenging to play really soft *and* really loud with the Kemper.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: tobi777 on November 23, 2021, 09:01:42 PM
Kemper or not: the song is ok, but Mark plays the same licks in "autopilot mode" as so often, so I'm not so convinced.

As for the sound, Mark already had this somewhat rough sound since about 2005, which is not clean enough for me - even when he didn't use Kemper amps. This may be due to the fact that his signature Strat has Texas Special pickups in it (which always surprised me, since he never wanted to achieve a sound like SRV) and that he uses different amps than he used to.I like the earlier sound better, but that's a matter of taste.

Also: I admire anyone who can actually recognize a Kemper in a big concert hall with often bad sound and lots of ambient noise.
At least in Berlin the acoustics were generally - as so often - so mediocre that you couldn't hear much at all out of the sound mush...
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 23, 2021, 09:19:02 PM
Kemper or not: the song is ok, but Mark plays the same licks in "autopilot mode" as so often, so I'm not so convinced.

As for the sound, Mark already had this somewhat rough sound since about 2005, which is not clean enough for me - even when he didn't use Kemper amps. This may be due to the fact that his signature Strat has Texas Special pickups in it (which always surprised me, since he never wanted to achieve a sound like SRV) and that he uses different amps than he used to.I like the earlier sound better, but that's a matter of taste.

Also: I admire anyone who can actually recognize a Kemper in a big concert hall with often bad sound and lots of ambient noise.
At least in Berlin the acoustics were generally - as so often - so mediocre that you couldn't hear much at all out of the sound mush...

I think a lot of people who are bashing Kemper usually listen to the live recordings and on that, you can make almost any instrument sound bad and out of place. Considering, that Mark's recent soundboards were, let's say, not of the finest quality, expecting a great guitar sound from these recordings is too much I think.

MK Strat is a strange beast indeed, I'm not a fan of colour choice and pickups are also could be different. But some people really love it, so!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 23, 2021, 09:23:51 PM
Kemper or not: the song is ok, but Mark plays the same licks in "autopilot mode" as so often, so I'm not so convinced.

As for the sound, Mark already had this somewhat rough sound since about 2005, which is not clean enough for me - even when he didn't use Kemper amps. This may be due to the fact that his signature Strat has Texas Special pickups in it (which always surprised me, since he never wanted to achieve a sound like SRV) and that he uses different amps than he used to.I like the earlier sound better, but that's a matter of taste.

Also: I admire anyone who can actually recognize a Kemper in a big concert hall with often bad sound and lots of ambient noise.
At least in Berlin the acoustics were generally - as so often - so mediocre that you couldn't hear much at all out of the sound mush...

I think a lot of people who are bashing Kemper usually listen to the live recordings and on that, you can make almost any instrument sound bad and out of place. Considering, that Mark's recent soundboards were, let's say, not of the finest quality, expecting a great guitar sound from these recordings is too much I think.

MK Strat is a strange beast indeed, I'm not a fan of colour choice and pickups are also could be different. But some people really love it, so!

Now't wrong with a good ol'e MK strat or two!!! :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 23, 2021, 10:40:40 PM
Kemper or not: the song is ok, but Mark plays the same licks in "autopilot mode" as so often, so I'm not so convinced.

As for the sound, Mark already had this somewhat rough sound since about 2005, which is not clean enough for me - even when he didn't use Kemper amps. This may be due to the fact that his signature Strat has Texas Special pickups in it (which always surprised me, since he never wanted to achieve a sound like SRV) and that he uses different amps than he used to.I like the earlier sound better, but that's a matter of taste.

Also: I admire anyone who can actually recognize a Kemper in a big concert hall with often bad sound and lots of ambient noise.
At least in Berlin the acoustics were generally - as so often - so mediocre that you couldn't hear much at all out of the sound mush...
Yeah, I’ve never played through a Kemper but the one thing solid state/digital should be able to do is clean. Roland have done Good clean solid state since the 80s.

What has been difficult to recreate is valve amp distortion. As you say, MK hasn’t really had a true clean sound live for a while now, so that’s a choice, nothing to do with Kemper.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 24, 2021, 01:05:21 AM
Kemper or not: the song is ok, but Mark plays the same licks in "autopilot mode" as so often, so I'm not so convinced.

As for the sound, Mark already had this somewhat rough sound since about 2005, which is not clean enough for me - even when he didn't use Kemper amps. This may be due to the fact that his signature Strat has Texas Special pickups in it (which always surprised me, since he never wanted to achieve a sound like SRV) and that he uses different amps than he used to.I like the earlier sound better, but that's a matter of taste.

Also: I admire anyone who can actually recognize a Kemper in a big concert hall with often bad sound and lots of ambient noise.
At least in Berlin the acoustics were generally - as so often - so mediocre that you couldn't hear much at all out of the sound mush...

Live is when/where you can hear the kemper difference mostly.
In a recording the sound is compressed and the difference is much smaller.

I heard it live in Milan which has an excellent sound for an indoor sports venue
and in Verona where the acoustics is great and is really close to the Royal Albert Hall.

During Money for Nothing in Verona the sound was so bad that I almost wanted to go out, first time ever since 1992.
I still enjoyed because it was Mark, because it was MFN and because it was Verona,
but I can assure you his guitar sound was bad.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on November 24, 2021, 08:41:47 AM
Live is when/where you can hear the kemper difference mostly.
In a recording the sound is compressed and the difference is much smaller.

I heard it live in Milan which has an excellent sound for an indoor sports venue
and in Verona where the acoustics is great and is really close to the Royal Albert Hall.

During Money for Nothing in Verona the sound was so bad that I almost wanted to go out, first time ever since 1992.
I still enjoyed because it was Mark, because it was MFN and because it was Verona,
but I can assure you his guitar sound was bad.

I think the bigger problem on the last tour was that he played Money For Nothing so sloppy at times you almost couldn't believe it. It broke my heart when I first heard it and honestly, I don't want to listen to that again. So Kemper or not, I personally never revisit his Kemper recordings anyway :lol
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 24, 2021, 10:07:31 AM
Live is when/where you can hear the kemper difference mostly.
In a recording the sound is compressed and the difference is much smaller.

I heard it live in Milan which has an excellent sound for an indoor sports venue
and in Verona where the acoustics is great and is really close to the Royal Albert Hall.

During Money for Nothing in Verona the sound was so bad that I almost wanted to go out, first time ever since 1992.
I still enjoyed because it was Mark, because it was MFN and because it was Verona,
but I can assure you his guitar sound was bad.

I think the bigger problem on the last tour was that he played Money For Nothing so sloppy at times you almost couldn't believe it. It broke my heart when I first heard it and honestly, I don't want to listen to that again. So Kemper or not, I personally never revisit his Kemper recordings anyway :lol

Agreed, messed up the intro badly in Glasgow.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 24, 2021, 01:07:03 PM
Kemper or not: the song is ok, but Mark plays the same licks in "autopilot mode" as so often, so I'm not so convinced.

As for the sound, Mark already had this somewhat rough sound since about 2005, which is not clean enough for me - even when he didn't use Kemper amps. This may be due to the fact that his signature Strat has Texas Special pickups in it (which always surprised me, since he never wanted to achieve a sound like SRV) and that he uses different amps than he used to.I like the earlier sound better, but that's a matter of taste.

Also: I admire anyone who can actually recognize a Kemper in a big concert hall with often bad sound and lots of ambient noise.
At least in Berlin the acoustics were generally - as so often - so mediocre that you couldn't hear much at all out of the sound mush...

I think a lot of people who are bashing Kemper usually listen to the live recordings and on that, you can make almost any instrument sound bad and out of place. Considering, that Mark's recent soundboards were, let's say, not of the finest quality, expecting a great guitar sound from these recordings is too much I think.

MK Strat is a strange beast indeed, I'm not a fan of colour choice and pickups are also could be different. But some people really love it, so!

I have TS on one of my teles and love it. I don’t know, perhaps the fact Mark’s a fingerpicker led him to that choice, going for hotter pups.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 24, 2021, 07:02:27 PM
Strat into Komet amp and 4x12 cabinet according to Guy on his forum today.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: PensaGhost on November 24, 2021, 07:22:25 PM
Live is when/where you can hear the kemper difference mostly.
In a recording the sound is compressed and the difference is much smaller.

I heard it live in Milan which has an excellent sound for an indoor sports venue
and in Verona where the acoustics is great and is really close to the Royal Albert Hall.

During Money for Nothing in Verona the sound was so bad that I almost wanted to go out, first time ever since 1992.
I still enjoyed because it was Mark, because it was MFN and because it was Verona,
but I can assure you his guitar sound was bad.

I think the bigger problem on the last tour was that he played Money For Nothing so sloppy at times you almost couldn't believe it. It broke my heart when I first heard it and honestly, I don't want to listen to that again. So Kemper or not, I personally never revisit his Kemper recordings anyway :lol

his touch is perfectly fine, it's the only thing that is still at 99%

He can use 100 different amps and have a great sound, a digital simulation is the only thing he must avoid
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 24, 2021, 08:10:56 PM
I didn't attend any 2019 shows, but a guitarist friend of mine was at RAH and at a couple of other venues and said Mark overall used too much gain and that the overdriven sound made everything sound very similar. A lot of nuances were lost. Going by the many recordings I've heard from that tour, that's my opinion too.


I totally understand the convenience of using a modeller, especially for one-off gigs that require quick setup (radio shows for instance), but using it on a world tour seems strange, especially by a guy like Mark who has always been very particular about getting good guitar tone and dynamics. I agree with PensaGhost here.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: tobi777 on November 24, 2021, 09:49:53 PM
Strat into Komet amp and 4x12 cabinet according to Guy on his forum today.

that's exactly what I meant with the slightly edgy sound: since he's been playing Komet amps, etc. - e.g. during the 2005 tour - I don't like the clean sound so much anymore.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: hunter on November 24, 2021, 09:57:18 PM
Strat into Komet amp and 4x12 cabinet according to Guy on his forum today.

that's exactly what I meant with the slightly edgy sound: since he's been playing Komet amps, etc. - e.g. during the 2005 tour - I don't like the clean sound so much anymore.


Me too. The Beryl sound, for example. Awful to my ears. Too grainy. They tried to recreate some of that old DS sound, but they were not even close.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on December 10, 2021, 07:09:57 PM
Dion:
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on December 10, 2021, 08:33:48 PM
Nice, thanks for sharing.....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: KnopfleRick on December 10, 2021, 09:54:12 PM
I was happy to follow the lead of a genius like him.
 
What a nice compliment for our hero!  :clap

Thanks for sharing, Robson!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Robson on December 11, 2021, 12:16:38 AM
 :thumbsup Exactly:)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: JF on February 06, 2022, 10:59:04 AM
On friday, Joe Bonamassa posted this on his FB account  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 06, 2022, 11:17:48 AM
On friday, Joe Bonamassa posted this on his FB account  :thumbsup

JB sent similar on the 21st Nov 2021 too....
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: peterromer on February 06, 2022, 06:04:51 PM
On friday, Joe Bonamassa posted this on his FB account  :thumbsup
WOW Thanks for sharing.
Cool track and must be the latest playing from Mr. Knopfler.
Also on YT here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1g9eTjpZXU)
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 07, 2022, 08:08:21 AM
Seems like Joe is a fan of Mark, has he ever talked directly about Mark?
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 07, 2022, 08:23:33 AM
Seems like Joe is a fan of Mark, has he ever talked directly about Mark?
#

Oh yes JB is a huge fan of MK's - in fact I have it written somewhere that he would of liked to have played with MK....

https://soundcloud.com/matt-abramovitz/the-pickup-joe-bonamassa-and
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 07, 2022, 08:25:48 AM
JB wanting to collaborate with MK (Article from 2012)

https://sgmagazine.com/events/article/interview-joe-bonamassa

Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: jbaent on February 07, 2022, 10:31:04 AM
JB wanting to collaborate with MK (Article from 2012)

https://sgmagazine.com/events/article/interview-joe-bonamassa

That would be interesting.
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 07, 2022, 11:16:40 AM
Thanks for that interview :thumbsup
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: quizzaciously on February 07, 2022, 11:34:14 AM
JB wanting to collaborate with MK (Article from 2012)

https://sgmagazine.com/events/article/interview-joe-bonamassa

That would be interesting.

Meanwhile, 10 years later we hope Mark will collaborate with himself at least :lol

I still think Joe's strongest point is collaborations with other singers, so that would be cool. Much cooler than Dion that's for sure!
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 07, 2022, 12:53:49 PM
JB wanting to collaborate with MK (Article from 2012)

https://sgmagazine.com/events/article/interview-joe-bonamassa

That would be interesting.

Meanwhile, 10 years later we hope Mark will collaborate with himself at least :lol

I still think Joe's strongest point is collaborations with other singers, so that would be cool. Much cooler than Dion that's for sure!

The new Album from Eric Gales is rather good...

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/eric-gales-joe-bonamassa-production-cost

https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/eric-gales-vs-joe-bonamassa/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9eNyWFT64o
Title: Re: Mark on new DION album Stomping ground
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 08, 2023, 11:22:08 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Dave Edmunds on guitar apparently…

https://youtu.be/w4S45U60A3s