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Title: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 23, 2021, 11:34:52 AM
And so, onto week 2 of the Dire Straits Album Elimination Poll.

Last week the following albums received the following votes for least favourite album:
Dire Straits: 3
Communique: 12
Making Movies: 8
Love Over Gold: 7
Brothers In Arms: 18

'On Every Street' received 26 votes out of 74 and was the first to go.

which one will be next?......
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: quizzaciously on September 23, 2021, 11:38:38 AM
That's tougher. I vote Making Movies because of the atrocious cover picture, the fact that it was named after a song that was never finished, the fact that it only has 7 songs and it's not Love Over Gold level songs except for Tunnel Of Love. So not so tough after all :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 23, 2021, 11:39:13 AM
That's tougher. I vote Making Movies because of the atrocious cover picture, the fact that it was named after a song that was never finished, the fact that it only has 7 songs and it's not Love Over Gold level songs except for Tunnel Of Love. So not so tough after all :lol

Good man!! that's two of us then!!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: dona74 on September 23, 2021, 01:25:56 PM
Making Movies is my favourite.... no doubt.
It's time to push out the overcelebrated Brothers in Arms...

Tremendous poll...    :D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: dmg on September 23, 2021, 02:19:18 PM
Making Movies is my favourite.... no doubt.
It's time to push out the overcelebrated Brothers in Arms...

Tremendous poll...    :D

It's not the fault of the album that it sold well.  Maybe it's just damned good!  Don't be afraid to like something popular.  :)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: KnopfleRick on September 23, 2021, 03:23:36 PM
As much as I love TOL Making Movies is the one I vote for.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Robson on September 23, 2021, 03:28:50 PM
"Don't be afraid to like something popular:

 :thumbsup :)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: NicoMK on September 23, 2021, 04:09:34 PM
For me the Brothers in arms album had to go first, so I hope it's the next one to go.

I'm not afraid of saying this about something popular.  ;D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: quizzaciously on September 23, 2021, 04:45:33 PM
I knew a girl who said she hated The Beatles because they are too popular. And I was like — are they popular because they're good or because they're (or at least were) hip? And I think they are popular because they are good.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: superval99 on September 23, 2021, 04:55:51 PM
I knew a girl who said she hated The Beatles because they are too popular. And I was like — are they popular because they're good or because they're (or at least were) hip? And I think they are popular because they are good.

They were very good before they were popular!    ;)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 23, 2021, 05:44:30 PM
For me the Brothers in arms album had to go first, so I hope it's the next one to go.

I'm not afraid of saying this about something popular.  ;D

We shall see....
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: rmarques821 on September 23, 2021, 07:54:50 PM
I had already voted for Making Movies in the previous round.
Thank you for Tunnel of Love and Romeo & Juliet but time to say goodbye.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 23, 2021, 07:57:40 PM
I knew a girl who said she hated The Beatles because they are too popular. And I was like — are they popular because they're good or because they're (or at least were) hip? And I think they are popular because they are good.
The Beatles are the best band that there has ever been. Anyone who argues is an idiot.

They are not however my favourite band.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: superval99 on September 23, 2021, 08:04:01 PM
I knew a girl who said she hated The Beatles because they are too popular. And I was like — are they popular because they're good or because they're (or at least were) hip? And I think they are popular because they are good.
The Beatles are the best band that there has ever been. Anyone who argues is an idiot.

They are not however my favourite band.

I would agree with you on that, Dusty. 
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Robson on September 23, 2021, 08:37:27 PM
I love The Beatles but they are also not my favorite band. Favourite band? Comes from Deptford from 1977  :)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 23, 2021, 08:39:45 PM
Me too, but you would be crazy to argue that Dire Straits were a better band than The Beatles. They weren’t even a band.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Robson on September 23, 2021, 08:42:42 PM
Of course, that's just my opinion and nothing will change that. Dire Straits gave me more than The Beatles, so it's more important to me.

I think they were a band.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 23, 2021, 08:47:05 PM
Technically they were a band but really they were a vehicle for MK. And that worked out well.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Robson on September 23, 2021, 08:48:11 PM
Yes. Here I can agree :)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Stanko on September 23, 2021, 09:42:20 PM
I don't know a single song from the Beatles. It's not a joke, I literally don't.
We're poles apart just at the mention of them.
I don't know why, but it must be a kind of self protective reflex?!

I don't go there.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 23, 2021, 10:59:52 PM
Technically they were a band but really they were a vehicle for MK. And that worked out well.

Quite agree with you....
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: 2manyguitars on September 24, 2021, 12:48:02 AM
This is like asking who's your favourite child....

Communique has to go for me, underrated and often overlooked, but less developed than everything else on the list, and certainly a less evolved soundscape. Its interesting to think about what that album could have become given slightly less pressure to deliver and a little more time....
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: superval99 on September 24, 2021, 08:44:55 AM
I saw The Beatles lots of times at The Cavern with my friends and they were a great little band, but even though we loved them we were amazed when Love Me Do went into the charts and I went on to buy lots of their albums.   However, I have hardly listened to them over the years.   I am much more a fan of DS/MK than I ever was of the Beatles and can't imagine that I would sit down and listen to their music  like I do DS/MK.   I do appreciate that they were a fantastic band and great songwriters and I'm glad that I had the chance to see them so many times.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: NicoMK on September 24, 2021, 09:40:04 AM
I saw The Beatles lots of times at The Cavern with my friends and they were a great little band, but even though we loved them we were amazed when Love Me Do went into the charts and I went on to buy lots of their albums.   However, I have hardly listened to them over the years.   I am much more a fan of DS/MK than I ever was of the Beatles and can't imagine that I would sit down and listen to their music  like I do DS/MK.   I do appreciate that they were a fantastic band and great songwriters and I'm glad that I had the chance to see them so many times.

Nice. Might have been quite something to see the early Beatles at the Cavern!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: NicoMK on September 24, 2021, 09:44:47 AM
I wouldn't want to spoil anyone here ;D but at this point already, it's not difficult to guess the title of the two finalists, if not the winner itself. But let's wait and see as "there can be only one"!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 24, 2021, 09:56:01 AM
I wouldn't want to spoil anyone here ;D but at this point already, it's not difficult to guess the title of the two finalists, if not the winner itself. But let's wait and see as "there can be only one"!

It's most definitely interesting! We shall just have to see how the other rounds go....
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 24, 2021, 10:07:09 AM
I wouldn't want to spoil anyone here ;D but at this point already, it's not difficult to guess the title of the two finalists, if not the winner itself. But let's wait and see as "there can be only one"!

We'll see, as people's choices get knocked out their votes may go elsewhere...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: 3Strats on September 24, 2021, 05:37:19 PM
No, I can't do it, I had a least favourite album, but it seems I don't have a next least favourite !  (Withdraws undecided).

I missed the Beatles  - just - My father took my brother and I to a nearby town to see the Shadows & when we came out there was a long queue for tickets for the Beatles who were on the following week.  He wouldn't stand in the queue with a load of teenage girls & said we wouldn't have been able to hear them anyway. That's probably my biggest musical regret. I did see Macca & Wings in 1972 - that was great !
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: superval99 on September 24, 2021, 05:45:56 PM
No, I can't do it, I had a least favourite album, but it seems I don't have a next least favourite !  (Withdraws undecided).

I missed the Beatles  - just - My father took my brother and I to a nearby town to see the Shadows & when we came out there was a long queue for tickets for the Beatles who were on the following week.  He wouldn't stand in the queue with a load of teenage girls & said we wouldn't have been able to hear them anyway. That's probably my biggest musical regret. I did see Macca & Wings in 1972 - that was great !

I saw the Beatles again at the Royal Court in Liverpool when they had become famous and your father was correct, I didn't hear a thing because of all the screaming!   It was far better to see them before.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Dutchessy on September 24, 2021, 06:38:25 PM
I listened today to the 2 contenders for this week's choice. And i enjoyed the other one more... So my vote goes to Brothers in Arms.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: crimmer on September 24, 2021, 08:21:38 PM
brothers in arms and making movies my two worst straits albums so im happy with this poll
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 25, 2021, 09:48:56 AM
brothers in arms and making movies my two worst straits albums so im happy with this poll

Good show!!!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Rivers Of Rain on September 28, 2021, 09:54:58 PM
I've finally got around to voting and this time around I went for Brothers In Arms to go next. I do like the album but of the five remaining it scores least highly for favourite individual tracks. The title track is a firm favourite of mine and would definitely be in my top ten DS songs with a strong case for a top five spot, but of the other eight songs I think only Money For Nothing and The Man's Too Strong would have a good chance of making my top 20. The other four albums have at least two songs each which would make my overall top ten, putting them ahead in this regard. I also feel it's probably the least cohesive of the remaining albums, as side one (the most radio friendly music in their catalogue) has a very different feel from side two, which feels more like a progression of the Love Over Gold style for the most part. I personally favour the latter, but the two sides appeal to me in different moods making me less likely to listen to the complete album in one go. Each of the first four records has a different mood, but I think the mood of each one feels broadly consistent across the whole album in a way that Brothers In Arms doesn't.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: JF on September 30, 2021, 10:04:52 AM
I knew a girl who said she hated The Beatles because they are too popular. And I was like — are they popular because they're good or because they're (or at least were) hip? And I think they are popular because they are good.
The Beatles are the best band that there has ever been. Anyone who argues is an idiot.

They are not however my favourite band.

 :thumbsup :thumbsup +1000
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 30, 2021, 12:27:12 PM
And so it looks like BIA is to 'get the boot' then!!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: jbaent on September 30, 2021, 12:36:21 PM
I guess Making Movies or Communique are next in line.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 30, 2021, 12:50:40 PM
I guess Making Movies or Communique are next in line.

MM hopefully!!!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Peter1981 on September 30, 2021, 03:11:02 PM
Love Communique!

I guess Making Movies or Communique are next in line.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: vgonis on September 30, 2021, 10:05:15 PM
I knew a girl who said she hated The Beatles because they are too popular. And I was like — are they popular because they're good or because they're (or at least were) hip? And I think they are popular because they are good.

I simply love such discussions. Although not present at the discussion,  to know if she means the Beatles or their songs, either way I think that I get her point. Every major popular artist and his art, tends to occupy so much space in the public sphere that it drowns other artists, commercially (and eventually  artistically) that  many times are more interesting and more valuable (an early manifestation of the ever conquering global market and companies, that prefer to sell multiple copies of one product, for more profit and less marketing expenses). Nick Drake anybody? (Although he has become very popular as well)  Alas even if these artists are discovered further down the history line, the saturation of the public with the prevailing artist is so great and influential, that is almost impossible to understand the value of other artists and the way the world would have taken if their art had prevailed.  So the dislike is a logical repulsion of popular, because of the loss of the other unlucky artists, a desperate cry for justice for the ignored art, a sad cry for all lost possibilities.

Or maybe music can not save our immortal soul and merely serves as a distraction from more serious issues, that actually shape the world.


Oh well, after all, for the last 50 years people are  baptized in a Beatles world, even if he/she doesn't like them. The point of reference will always be them.  All he/she can  claim is that s-he is really into  ... the Rolling stones. Still I prefer the Kinks.   
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Robson on September 30, 2021, 10:17:33 PM
"Or maybe music can not save our immortal soul...

I think maybe a little...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: vgonis on September 30, 2021, 10:24:10 PM
"Or maybe music can not save our immortal soul...

I think maybe a little...
;-)  I think so too.
The sad truth is that lately I get the feeling that most people do not believe in the existence of a soul. (Unless it is Otis or Don.) 
And a soulless world is an inhumane world. 
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Robson on September 30, 2021, 11:37:32 PM
Exactly! I want to talk about it and write about it more often. Thank you vgonis.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 02, 2021, 09:32:29 PM
I guess it will be time for round 3 soon...... ;)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 02, 2021, 09:52:40 PM
Feel free!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Album elimination Poll! - Round 2
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 02, 2021, 09:54:17 PM
Feel free!

Okey dokey...