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Title: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Bluebird on October 21, 2021, 07:13:56 PM
Almost 3 years have passed since the last album from November 2018.
Does anyone have any information about a new album?
 
Bluebird
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 21, 2021, 07:23:43 PM
The recording session continues.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 21, 2021, 08:04:18 PM
The recording session continues.

Yes, Mark is in his studio working on a new album.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Bluebird on October 21, 2021, 08:37:39 PM
Thank you Robson and KnopfleRick.
Then it can - hopefully - not take that long. Are MK's colleagues from the USA in London?
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 21, 2021, 08:43:40 PM
Guy Fletcher's answer:

"We have delayed the band sessions slightly in order to make sure the FULL band are all available. This band session will also be longer. There is a lot going on, hugely encouraging for music in general. We’ve been working on a charity project and have had several guest players in. More on that later. sorry I can’t give you more right now. Soon"
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: NicoMK on October 21, 2021, 09:09:03 PM
FULL band members is :

MK: guitars, vocals
Robbie McIntosh : guitars
Richard Bennett : guitars
Marcus Cliffe : bass
Guy Fletcher: keyboards and additional bass
John Mc Cusker : mandolin, cittern
Stuart Duncan : violin
Matt Rollings : piano, backing vocals
And of course :
Danny Cummings : drums, percussion, backing vocals.

I'll pay quite a lot of money to see this. Well, dreaming is not forbidden (yet).
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 22, 2021, 06:11:03 PM
FULL band members is :

MK: guitars, vocals
Robbie McIntosh : guitars
Richard Bennett : guitars
Marcus Cliffe : bass
Guy Fletcher: keyboards and additional bass
John Mc Custer: mandolin, cittern
Stuart Duncan : violin
Matt Rollings : piano, backing vocals
And of course :
Danny Cummings : drums, percussion, backing vocals.

I'll pay quite a lot of money to see this. Well, dreaming is not forbidden (yet).

Great lineup and I, like you would pay a bit of dosh to see that in your dreamworld!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Pierre on October 22, 2021, 06:24:44 PM
FULL band members is :

MK: guitars, vocals
Robbie McIntosh : guitars
Richard Bennett : guitars
Marcus Cliffe : bass
Guy Fletcher: keyboards and additional bass
John Mc Custer: mandolin, cittern
Stuart Duncan : violin
Matt Rollings : piano, backing vocals
And of course :
Danny Cummings : drums, percussion, backing vocals.

I'll pay quite a lot of money to see this. Well, dreaming is not forbidden (yet).

How do you know that the line up is this one? This has escaped my radar.
How about Jim Cox and Glenn Worf and Michael McGoldrick?
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 22, 2021, 06:33:54 PM
FULL band members is :

MK: guitars, vocals
Robbie McIntosh : guitars
Richard Bennett : guitars
Marcus Cliffe : bass
Guy Fletcher: keyboards and additional bass
John Mc Custer: mandolin, cittern
Stuart Duncan : violin
Matt Rollings : piano, backing vocals
And of course :
Danny Cummings : drums, percussion, backing vocals.

I'll pay quite a lot of money to see this. Well, dreaming is not forbidden (yet).

How do you know that the line up is this one? This has escaped my radar.
How about Jim Cox and Glenn Worf and Michael McGoldrick?

It's a dream!! :lol :smack
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 22, 2021, 06:52:44 PM
FULL band members is :

MK: guitars, vocals
Robbie McIntosh : guitars
Richard Bennett : guitars
Marcus Cliffe : bass
Guy Fletcher: keyboards and additional bass
John Mc Custer: mandolin, cittern
Stuart Duncan : violin
Matt Rollings : piano, backing vocals
And of course :
Danny Cummings : drums, percussion, backing vocals.

I'll pay quite a lot of money to see this. Well, dreaming is not forbidden (yet).

How do you know that the line up is this one? This has escaped my radar.
How about Jim Cox and Glenn Worf and Michael McGoldrick?

It's a dream!! :lol :smack

Great lineup, but in MY dream Chad Chromwell would sit on the drums.  ;)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 22, 2021, 07:15:16 PM
FULL band members is :

MK: guitars, vocals
Robbie McIntosh : guitars
Richard Bennett : guitars
Marcus Cliffe : bass
Guy Fletcher: keyboards and additional bass
John Mc Custer: mandolin, cittern
Stuart Duncan : violin
Matt Rollings : piano, backing vocals
And of course :
Danny Cummings : drums, percussion, backing vocals.

I'll pay quite a lot of money to see this. Well, dreaming is not forbidden (yet).

How do you know that the line up is this one? This has escaped my radar.
How about Jim Cox and Glenn Worf and Michael McGoldrick?

It's a dream!! :lol :smack

Great lineup, but in MY dream Chad Chromwell would sit on the drums.  ;)

Good call...In my dream Chad was unavailable!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 22, 2021, 07:17:00 PM
Mike McGoldrick is essential!    :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 22, 2021, 07:51:02 PM
Mike McGoldrick is essential!    :)

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 22, 2021, 08:03:17 PM
Mike McGoldrick is essential!    :)

Goes without saying!!!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 22, 2021, 08:05:14 PM
Paul Franklin anyone?

If you've heard Aly Bain live you'd want him on the album on fiddle.  Tremendous with Phil Cunningham.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 22, 2021, 08:15:17 PM
I. Sometimes I miss a pedal steel guitar.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 22, 2021, 08:49:51 PM
Paul Franklin anyone?

If you've heard Aly Bain live you'd want him on the album on fiddle.  Tremendous with Phil Cunningham.

Aly Bain - simply amazing!!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 22, 2021, 09:02:52 PM
Paul Franklin anyone?

If you've heard Aly Bain live you'd want him on the album on fiddle.  Tremendous with Phil Cunningham.

Aly Bain - simply amazing!!!

Aly and Phil with the rest of the folkies at Transatlantic Sessions is not to be missed! 
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 22, 2021, 09:05:09 PM
Paul Franklin anyone?

If you've heard Aly Bain live you'd want him on the album on fiddle.  Tremendous with Phil Cunningham.

Aly Bain - simply amazing!!!

Aly and Phil with the rest of the folkies at Transatlantic Sessions is not to be missed!

Alas, I've only heard various pieces via the televised TAS and youtube of Aly, Phil & friends and they are all amazing together...

Here's them playing a well known ditty.
https://youtu.be/zr4_GtWt1AI
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 22, 2021, 09:10:22 PM
Paul Franklin anyone?

If you've heard Aly Bain live you'd want him on the album on fiddle.  Tremendous with Phil Cunningham.

Aly Bain - simply amazing!!!

Aly and Phil with the rest of the folkies at Transatlantic Sessions is not to be missed!

Alas, I've only heard various pieces via youtube of Aly & Phil and they are amazing together...

Here's them playing a well known ditty.
https://youtu.be/zr4_GtWt1AI

Thanks for that, KF!   Try to see them sometime when they're down your way!     :wave
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 22, 2021, 09:12:08 PM
Paul Franklin anyone?

If you've heard Aly Bain live you'd want him on the album on fiddle.  Tremendous with Phil Cunningham.

Aly Bain - simply amazing!!!

Aly and Phil with the rest of the folkies at Transatlantic Sessions is not to be missed!

Alas, I've only heard various pieces via youtube of Aly & Phil and they are amazing together...

Here's them playing a well known ditty.
https://youtu.be/zr4_GtWt1AI

Thanks for that, KF!   Try to see them sometime when they're down your way!     :wave

Thanks Superval, oh we will if they ever come close (ish) I did keep an eye on John Mccusker touring with his band but they've postponed their shows I believe....
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 22, 2021, 09:42:16 PM
Mike McGoldrick is essential!    :)

Absolutely!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: NicoMK on October 22, 2021, 10:42:58 PM
Mike McGoldrick is essential!    :)
With all respect, for what? Not that I don't like him but I've always felt that he and John McC. were clones.
Flute, guitars and cittern? John Mc C. can handle them so I picked-up John but I could've picked up Mike instead.

Tim O'Brien was great too btw.

Ok, no Mike means no pipes...  ::)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: NicoMK on October 22, 2021, 10:44:04 PM
FULL band members is :

MK: guitars, vocals
Robbie McIntosh : guitars
Richard Bennett : guitars
Marcus Cliffe : bass
Guy Fletcher: keyboards and additional bass
John Mc Custer: mandolin, cittern
Stuart Duncan : violin
Matt Rollings : piano, backing vocals
And of course :
Danny Cummings : drums, percussion, backing vocals.

I'll pay quite a lot of money to see this. Well, dreaming is not forbidden (yet).

Great lineup and I, like you would pay a bit of dosh to see that in your dreamworld!!

You're very welcome then :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: MagicElliott on October 22, 2021, 11:48:32 PM
Mike McGoldrick is essential!    :)
With all respect, for what? Not that I don't like him but I've always felt that he and John McC. were clones.
Flute, guitars and cittern? John Mc C. can handle them so I picked-up John but I could've picked up Mike instead.

Tim O'Brien was great too btw.

Ok, no Mike means no pipes...  ::)

Fiddle and pipes aside, I do wonder how John and Mike’s parts get “divvied up.”
How come, for example, John played whistle on the last tour during STP and Mike played tenor guitar?
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: qjamesfloyd on October 23, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
I have said before that I wish Mark would get back to the country ish thing he was doing years ago, and a big part of that is Paul Franklin. As long as he goes away from the Brass type thing he has been doing lately I will be happy.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 23, 2021, 02:32:09 PM
I have said before that I wish Mark would get back to the country ish thing he was doing years ago, and a big part of that is Paul Franklin. As long as he goes away from the Brass type thing he has been doing lately I will be happy.

I agree.  I think a lot of the country stuff he does is very good.  Some of the country songs on OES and GH were fantastic.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: NicoMK on October 23, 2021, 02:33:32 PM
I have said before that I wish Mark would get back to the country ish thing he was doing years ago, and a big part of that is Paul Franklin. As long as he goes away from the Brass type thing he has been doing lately I will be happy.
I feel the same. I absolutely loved the Golden Heart "Irish" period and what goes from there to, let's say the Get Lucky album. Not a big fan of what came after but it's a question of personal taste and I perfectly understand that others may love Privateering and the following albums.

But for God's sake, before I'm dead I'd love to have a record and tour with personnel like Danny and Matt again, and Robbie and Marcus. The 2002 "Friends" band sounded SO great, and I was there! Stuart Duncan was very cool to have in the band in 2006 too. I loved his rendition of (the rarely played) Done with Bonaparte.

Dream mode still # on.  ::)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 23, 2021, 07:55:29 PM
I have said before that I wish Mark would get back to the country ish thing he was doing years ago, and a big part of that is Paul Franklin. As long as he goes away from the Brass type thing he has been doing lately I will be happy.

Exactly my thoughts!  :clap
Let's hope for the new album that he will leave out the brass and gets back to his roots again.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 23, 2021, 09:10:09 PM
I have said before that I wish Mark would get back to the country ish thing he was doing years ago, and a big part of that is Paul Franklin. As long as he goes away from the Brass type thing he has been doing lately I will be happy.

Exactly my thoughts!  :clap
Let's hope for the new album that he will leave out the brass and gets back to his roots again.

Oooh yes, less 'Salvation Army' please....
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 23, 2021, 09:14:27 PM
Almost 3 years have passed since the last album from November 2018.
Does anyone have any information about a new album?
 
Bluebird

Remember we waited 4 years between GH & StP - 1996 - 2000.....
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 23, 2021, 10:51:22 PM
Almost 3 years have passed since the last album from November 2018.
Does anyone have any information about a new album?
 
Bluebird

Remember we waited 4 years between GH & StP - 1996 - 2000.....

But he did plenty of things in the meantime, wag the dog, metroland, a shot at glory (it was released after, but recorded before or at the same time than stp), three short tours with the NHB (97,98,99) and some great collaborations with other artists, like the Hank Williams tribute etc etc

That space of four years, he was quite busy in between
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 23, 2021, 11:17:07 PM
Almost 3 years have passed since the last album from November 2018.
Does anyone have any information about a new album?
 
Bluebird

Remember we waited 4 years between GH & StP - 1996 - 2000.....

But he did plenty of things in the meantime, wag the dog, metroland, a shot at glory (it was released after, but recorded before or at the same time than stp), three short tours with the NHB (97,98,99) and some great collaborations with other artists, like the Hank Williams tribute etc etc

That space of four years, he was quite busy in between

One suspects he's been busy with family and non music related business in his senior years. With nothing to prove anymore I don't blame him at all....
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: ds1984 on October 24, 2021, 08:23:05 PM
In Barcelona his retirement [from touring] speech sounded so heartbreaking to him because Mark like his job so much.

I don't see him stop from writing and recording as long as he will be able to do it.

Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 24, 2021, 09:00:44 PM
In Barcelona his retirement [from touring] speech sounded so heartbreaking to him because Mark like his job so much.

I don't see him stop from writing and recording as long as he will be able to do it.

Remember that was the very first time he announced that, and I think you are right it was a shock to him and us too! I agree he will write and record as long as he can...
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2021, 10:32:07 AM
Almost 3 years have passed since the last album from November 2018.
Does anyone have any information about a new album?
 
Bluebird

Remember we waited 4 years between GH & StP - 1996 - 2000.....

But he did plenty of things in the meantime, wag the dog, metroland, a shot at glory (it was released after, but recorded before or at the same time than stp), three short tours with the NHB (97,98,99) and some great collaborations with other artists, like the Hank Williams tribute etc etc

That space of four years, he was quite busy in between

One suspects he's been busy with family and non music related business in his senior years. With nothing to prove anymore I don't blame him at all....

Obviously this break has a lot to do with the pandemia, but between Tracker and DTRW he spent some years doing nothing at all (enjoying a well deserved period of inactivity, Guy said...) until the Local Hero musical appeared, and as it has a lot of periods of time while he was doing nothing, he started to record DTRW in those gaps.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 25, 2021, 11:21:29 AM
In Barcelona his retirement [from touring] speech sounded so heartbreaking to him because Mark like his job so much.

I don't see him stop from writing and recording as long as he will be able to do it.

Remember that was the very first time he announced that, and I think you are right it was a shock to him and us too! I agree he will write and record as long as he can...

Yes, his retirement announcement was a shock to all of us, but to see him in such bad condition was a big shock, also. 
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2021, 11:33:11 AM
In Barcelona his retirement [from touring] speech sounded so heartbreaking to him because Mark like his job so much.

I don't see him stop from writing and recording as long as he will be able to do it.

Remember that was the very first time he announced that, and I think you are right it was a shock to him and us too! I agree he will write and record as long as he can...

Yes, his retirement announcement was a shock to all of us, but to see him in such bad condition was a big shock, also.

It was a shock to everyone, nobody that was working with him had the faintest idea that MK would be saying that in Barcelona... They played the whole set under shock. And imagine all the people that work with him, managers, backliners, truckers, catering etc, people that make their living with everything that happens around a tour.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: quizzaciously on October 25, 2021, 11:46:33 AM
In Barcelona his retirement [from touring] speech sounded so heartbreaking to him because Mark like his job so much.

I don't see him stop from writing and recording as long as he will be able to do it.

Remember that was the very first time he announced that, and I think you are right it was a shock to him and us too! I agree he will write and record as long as he can...

Yes, his retirement announcement was a shock to all of us, but to see him in such bad condition was a big shock, also.

It was a shock to everyone, nobody that was working with him had the faintest idea that MK would be saying that in Barcelona... They played the whole set under shock. And imagine all the people that work with him, managers, backliners, truckers, catering etc, people that make their living with everything that happens around a tour.

They are professionals, no need to worry about job shortage! Mark's retirement speech was a stupid idea, to be honest. If he was unsure whether he will tour again or not (seems like he doesn't know himself), he could say just that, not saying goodbye. If he planned that, why not tell anyone, at least his buddies. If he decided to ditch the message, that means he will tour again? So what's your ultimate decision, Mr Knopfler? I don't understand... But maybe that's better than "neverending" farewell tours like some people do. Mark got stuck in the recording-album-tour triangle that seem like he still can't get away from it. Somebody needs to tell him you can play shows without touring 80 countries in a row...
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2021, 11:53:00 AM
In Barcelona his retirement [from touring] speech sounded so heartbreaking to him because Mark like his job so much.

I don't see him stop from writing and recording as long as he will be able to do it.

Remember that was the very first time he announced that, and I think you are right it was a shock to him and us too! I agree he will write and record as long as he can...

Yes, his retirement announcement was a shock to all of us, but to see him in such bad condition was a big shock, also.

It was a shock to everyone, nobody that was working with him had the faintest idea that MK would be saying that in Barcelona... They played the whole set under shock. And imagine all the people that work with him, managers, backliners, truckers, catering etc, people that make their living with everything that happens around a tour.

They are professionals, no need to worry about job shortage! Mark's retirement speech was a stupid idea, to be honest. If he was unsure whether he will tour again or not (seems like he doesn't know himself), he could say just that, not saying goodbye. If he planned that, why not tell anyone, at least his buddies. If he decided to ditch the message, that means he will tour again? So what's your ultimate decision, Mr Knopfler? I don't understand... But maybe that's better than "neverending" farewell tours like some people do. Mark got stuck in the recording-album-tour triangle that seem like he still can't get away from it. Somebody needs to tell him you can play shows without touring 80 countries in a row...

The thing is... I don't get what this caught them by surprise. It didn't caught me by surprise at all. MK already told in some interviews after the DTRW release that touring would be something that would end, that he would keep writing songs and releasing records, but that touring would be the first thing of the cycle that would end, he said that at probably two or more interviews by the time. When I was at the Barcelona concert I had hopes that he wouldn't go as further as he was telling in those interviews, but unluckily, he was serious about that and made an statement at the concert!

Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 12:19:21 PM
In Barcelona his retirement [from touring] speech sounded so heartbreaking to him because Mark like his job so much.

I don't see him stop from writing and recording as long as he will be able to do it.

Remember that was the very first time he announced that, and I think you are right it was a shock to him and us too! I agree he will write and record as long as he can...

Yes, his retirement announcement was a shock to all of us, but to see him in such bad condition was a big shock, also.

It was a shock to everyone, nobody that was working with him had the faintest idea that MK would be saying that in Barcelona... They played the whole set under shock. And imagine all the people that work with him, managers, backliners, truckers, catering etc, people that make their living with everything that happens around a tour.

They are professionals, no need to worry about job shortage! Mark's retirement speech was a stupid idea, to be honest. If he was unsure whether he will tour again or not (seems like he doesn't know himself), he could say just that, not saying goodbye. If he planned that, why not tell anyone, at least his buddies. If he decided to ditch the message, that means he will tour again? So what's your ultimate decision, Mr Knopfler? I don't understand... But maybe that's better than "neverending" farewell tours like some people do. Mark got stuck in the recording-album-tour triangle that seem like he still can't get away from it. Somebody needs to tell him you can play shows without touring 80 countries in a row...

The thing is... I don't get what this caught them by surprise. It didn't caught me by surprise at all. MK already told in some interviews after the DTRW release that touring would be something that would end, that he would keep writing songs and releasing records, but that touring would be the first thing of the cycle that would end, he said that at probably two or more interviews by the time. When I was at the Barcelona concert I had hopes that he wouldn't go as further as he was telling in those interviews, but unluckily, he was serious about that and made an statement at the concert!

It was purely the shock of him announcing his retirement the way he did! Like you say jbaent he'd previously hinted the touring couldn't go on...
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2021, 12:35:57 PM
But during tour, he changed his mind. I don' know. Nobody knows Mark. We love his music but we don't know our hero.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 12:54:17 PM
But during tour, he changed his mind. I don' know. Nobody knows Mark. We love his music but we don't know our hero.

He only changed his mind by 'toning' down the retirement speech to make it not so harsh!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2021, 01:01:33 PM
But during tour, he changed his mind. I don' know. Nobody knows Mark. We love his music but we don't know our hero.

No, he didn't, he just softened it.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2021, 01:12:19 PM
That's true. He turned it into a joke.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 01:23:13 PM
That's true. He turned it into a joke.

With the old maybe I will, maybe I won't quip!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: qjamesfloyd on October 25, 2021, 02:10:20 PM
Mark will always want to tour, but I think it is his health that is going to dictate that going forward, If he is feeling well one day, he will be up for touring, but if he is feeling bad another day then he will want to quit, maybe when he announced ending touring, he was feeling bad. I can't blame him wanting to not stop, it has been a major part of his life, and I am sure the love of the crowd is like a drug to him, and most performers too.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 02:19:00 PM
Mark will always want to tour, but I think it is his health that is going to dictate that going forward, If he is feeling well one day, he will be up for touring, but if he is feeling bad another day then he will want to quit, maybe when he announced ending touring, he was feeling bad. I can't blame him wanting to not stop, it has been a major part of his life, and I am sure the love of the crowd is like a drug to him, and most performers too.

Good post....Its a case of the body is letting him down while on the other hand his mind thinks, Writing, Album release & Tour!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2021, 02:21:57 PM
I truly think that touring is over.

But I hope that he plays small series of concerts, instead of the usual touring.

In the Genesis thread I already mentioned that I foresee that kind of "tour" would make sense to MK if he really wants to keep playing. When his record is out, selecting his usual arenas in the UK and play three or four consecutive nights in, let's say Dublin, Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Newcastle and London, doesn't involve big touring and give him the chance to make it economically viable, and also gives fans around the world that usually travels, and for the ones that didn't, their first experience, plenty of chances to see him live.

But see him playing in many European countries or North America? Nah, I'm sure that's over.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Mark will always want to tour, but I think it is his health that is going to dictate that going forward, If he is feeling well one day, he will be up for touring, but if he is feeling bad another day then he will want to quit, maybe when he announced ending touring, he was feeling bad. I can't blame him wanting to not stop, it has been a major part of his life, and I am sure the love of the crowd is like a drug to him, and most performers too.

Good post....Its a case of the body is letting him down while on the other hand his mind thinks, Writing, Album release & Tour!

I think that this period of closure could had affected his decision to worse or to better.

To worse, he might had decided that touring is difficult, with the virus still affecting and with the brexit difficulties (if he still wants to play outside the UK).

To Better, he would be looking forward to play with his friends and enjoy life while he can.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 02:29:05 PM
I truly think that touring is over.

But I hope that he plays small series of concerts, instead of the usual touring.

In the Genesis thread I already mentioned that I foresee that kind of "tour" would make sense to MK if he really wants to keep playing. When his record is out, selecting his usual arenas in the UK and play three or four consecutive nights in, let's say Dublin, Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Newcastle and London, doesn't involve big touring and give him the chance to make it economically viable, and also gives fans around the world that usually travels, and for the ones that didn't, their first experience, plenty of chances to see him live.

But see him playing in many European countries or North America? Nah, I'm sure that's over.

I can only see a series of nights at say the RAH at most - just cannot see anything else to be honest....
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2021, 04:42:38 PM
If that happens, it is undoubtedly the end of something... :(
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 04:47:08 PM
If that happens, it is undoubtedly the end of something... :(

I think we have to face facts here, hard that it is that MK will NOT tour again! (I'd love to be wrong)
'One off' or 'residence' shows perhaps.... :-\
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2021, 04:51:50 PM
I have been to all the concerts in my country and a few abroad and it will be difficult to accept.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2021, 06:10:17 PM
I have been to all the concerts in my country and a few abroad and it will be difficult to accept.

You will always have ABROAD, if we are lucky.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2021, 06:17:05 PM
That's right. But chance for a ticket is smaller. Everyone will want to be at the concert
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 07:05:10 PM
I have been to all the concerts in my country and a few abroad and it will be difficult to accept.

I'm afraid it's the way the cookie crumbles....

I think we as a collective forum, have been very fortunate in seeing MK in concert 'many' times... I hope to the Lord that is not it but I just can't help thinking it is..... :'( :'(
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 07:08:26 PM
That's right. But chance for a ticket is smaller. Everyone will want to be at the concert

or 'concerts' if a residency is in order say at the RAH for a few days/nights.......
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 25, 2021, 08:02:06 PM
That's right. But chance for a ticket is smaller. Everyone will want to be at the concert

Really?  I'll think hard before ordering tickets for him again.  I suppose in the end I'll do it, but I'll be not be overly excited to see the show itself.

Do we honestly think that nowadays, after a layoff of a few years, he'll be capable of performing a two hour show like he did in Barcelona 2019?  Remember, he's not going to appear for a one-off show in a mid-tour condition; he's going to be shuffling onto stage more so than in Barcelona and performing in line with that.  I seriously don't think it's a good idea for his reputation if anything else.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2021, 08:14:11 PM
Most people will want to experience it again.

Now is the time of pandemic and numbness. Our faith is put to the test :) There will be a new album and we will feel it again
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 25, 2021, 08:25:30 PM
That's right. But chance for a ticket is smaller. Everyone will want to be at the concert

Really?  I'll think hard before ordering tickets for him again.  I suppose in the end I'll do it, but I'll be not be overly excited to see the show itself.

Do we honestly think that nowadays, after a layoff of a few years, he'll be capable of performing a two hour show like he did in Barcelona 2019?  Remember, he's not going to appear for a one-off show in a mid-tour condition; he's going to be shuffling onto stage more so than in Barcelona and performing in line with that.  I seriously don't think it's a good idea for his reputation if anything else.

I'm with you dmg. That's why I wonder if he does do anything LIVE again it will be a series of shows at say the RAH rather than a one night show....

I think I'd rather have my many memories of MK live to be honest...
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Banjo99uk on October 25, 2021, 11:47:37 PM
maybe some guest appearances like the Bill Wyman birthday gig.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: koobaa on October 26, 2021, 12:13:31 AM
That's right. But chance for a ticket is smaller. Everyone will want to be at the concert

Really?  I'll think hard before ordering tickets for him again.  I suppose in the end I'll do it, but I'll be not be overly excited to see the show itself.

Do we honestly think that nowadays, after a layoff of a few years, he'll be capable of performing a two hour show like he did in Barcelona 2019?  Remember, he's not going to appear for a one-off show in a mid-tour condition; he's going to be shuffling onto stage more so than in Barcelona and performing in line with that.  I seriously don't think it's a good idea for his reputation if anything else.
I think we underestimate the power of a live MK performance no matter what shape he is in. He can just strum his acoustic and he will still fill most venues no problem. There will always be a desire among fans to see him live, especially as he gets older and less likely to perform. People are becoming aware that each occasion may be the last. I had a taste of it in 2019 when I simply could not get a ticket to the Vancouver concert either at MK.com pre-sales or regular sales, even though I was ready to order hours before they opened the online booking system. It simply was not capable to match the high demand volume. I had to travel 5,000 km to the other side of the continent to have a chance to see him.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2021, 12:21:40 AM
Exactly! I fully agree.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 26, 2021, 10:07:24 AM
maybe some guest appearances like the Bill Wyman birthday gig.

Maybe, maybe....
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 26, 2021, 11:34:55 AM
That's right. But chance for a ticket is smaller. Everyone will want to be at the concert

Really?  I'll think hard before ordering tickets for him again.  I suppose in the end I'll do it, but I'll be not be overly excited to see the show itself.

Do we honestly think that nowadays, after a layoff of a few years, he'll be capable of performing a two hour show like he did in Barcelona 2019?  Remember, he's not going to appear for a one-off show in a mid-tour condition; he's going to be shuffling onto stage more so than in Barcelona and performing in line with that.  I seriously don't think it's a good idea for his reputation if anything else.
I think we underestimate the power of a live MK performance no matter what shape he is in. He can just strum his acoustic and he will still fill most venues no problem. There will always be a desire among fans to see him live, especially as he gets older and less likely to perform. People are becoming aware that each occasion may be the last. I had a taste of it in 2019 when I simply could not get a ticket to the Vancouver concert either at MK.com pre-sales or regular sales, even though I was ready to order hours before they opened the online booking system. It simply was not capable to match the high demand volume. I had to travel 5,000 km to the other side of the continent to have a chance to see him.

with the very big band that he has to cover musically his songs, it's not a problem.

He can choose from his catalogue songs that he can't play and they will sound perfect. Think in songs like "Heart full of holes" and that style.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 26, 2021, 11:40:31 AM
I've been thinking and there may well be a point here. Even and from experience if he were to sit down on his own with Guy on keyboards, MK can still 'churn' out a good few songs even without a huge band behind him.
Now if he were to adopt 'sitting in the chair' again as per 2010 then I'm more than sure he could with a band do some more easier numbers and we'd all enjoy that I reckon - after all it boils down to Mark's presence on stage......dream over...
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: hunter on October 26, 2021, 12:14:26 PM
Since he's omitting more and more of the demanding guitar-centric songs, which, let's face it, a lot of people are coming to hear, he could name the next tour "A Set Full of Holes".
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 26, 2021, 12:35:17 PM
Since he's omitting more and more of the demanding guitar-centric songs, which, let's face it, a lot of people are coming to hear, he could name the next tour "A Set Full of Holes".

I enjoyed a lot the mid part of the last tour, the quiet songs, the songs that didn't required too much guitar effort, and as me, I know many other people did enjoy that part, and we won't mind a whole set of less guitar driven songs.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2021, 12:54:02 PM
I'm in this group:)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 26, 2021, 01:32:15 PM
Since he's omitting more and more of the demanding guitar-centric songs, which, let's face it, a lot of people are coming to hear, he could name the next tour "A Set Full of Holes".

I enjoyed a lot the mid part of the last tour, the quiet songs, the songs that didn't required too much guitar effort, and as me, I know many other people did enjoy that part, and we won't mind a whole set of less guitar driven songs.

I loved that part!    :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 26, 2021, 02:37:51 PM
I'm in this group:)

Me, too!!!
Being in the same room with him and listening to his wonderful voice and distinctive guitar playing has always been overwhelming for me and this feeling still is there.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2021, 02:45:32 PM
I feel the same.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: hunter on October 26, 2021, 03:00:18 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2021, 03:14:28 PM
Who wrote without playing the guitar?
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: quizzaciously on October 26, 2021, 03:18:10 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: hunter on October 26, 2021, 03:19:19 PM
Who wrote without playing the guitar?


You know what I meant.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 26, 2021, 03:43:44 PM
I've no idea how his voice sounds these days, but at the concerts I attended in 2019 his voice sounded pretty good and I enjoyed them all.  :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2021, 03:49:59 PM
I really want to see him on stage again.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 26, 2021, 04:06:06 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

Which echoes a few nights at one location might be the ideal and is most probabaly what could happen. The 'one off' shows (Hay, Bridport and Chalke Valley) I attended were all very good and again could be another way to go too....

How about if he were to do something similar to the Hurlington show in 2009 - I'd be more than up for that!!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 26, 2021, 04:06:30 PM
He can't play guitar as he used to nowadays, so I don't really mind about guitar driven songs or guitar solos anymore, I rather not see him again struggling with Sultans or TR solos, and see him enjoying songs like matchstick man or get lucky.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 26, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
He can't play guitar as he used to nowadays, so I don't really mind about guitar driven songs or guitar solos anymore, I rather not see him again struggling with Sultans or TR solos, and see him enjoying songs like matchstick man or get lucky.

Absolutely spot on!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 26, 2021, 04:09:29 PM
I really want to see him on stage again.

Performing Shakespeare perhaps?
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 26, 2021, 04:26:09 PM
He can't play guitar as he used to nowadays, so I don't really mind about guitar driven songs or guitar solos anymore, I rather not see him again struggling with Sultans or TR solos, and see him enjoying songs like matchstick man or get lucky.

Same here!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 26, 2021, 04:53:25 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

 :clap :clap  These two posts for me.  I got into his music for the guitar and enjoyed his unique vocal.  Back during the 2019 tour it was evident he couldn't even perform a passable vocal, his voice being very weak sounding.  R&J is dreadful from this tour. Indeed the last tour it was anywhere near decent was 2006.

Set Full of Holes.  LOL moment. Cheered me up today.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 26, 2021, 05:08:09 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

 :clap :clap  These two posts for me.  I got into his music for the guitar and enjoyed his unique vocal.  Back during the 2019 tour it was evident he couldn't even perform a passable vocal, his voice being very weak sounding.  R&J is dreadful from this tour. Indeed the last tour it was anywhere near decent was 2006.

Set Full of Holes.  LOL moment. Cheered me up today.

You were obviously not at Leeds, dmg  ;D, because I thought his voice was pretty good and I still enjoy  listening to the recording.   I agree it wasn't so good at Newcastle (a bit croaky), but it was just after the Leeds concert - however, I loved the one at Verona!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 26, 2021, 06:21:00 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

 :clap :clap  These two posts for me.  I got into his music for the guitar and enjoyed his unique vocal.  Back during the 2019 tour it was evident he couldn't even perform a passable vocal, his voice being very weak sounding.  R&J is dreadful from this tour. Indeed the last tour it was anywhere near decent was 2006.

Set Full of Holes.  LOL moment. Cheered me up today.

You were obviously not at Leeds, dmg  ;D, because I thought his voice was pretty good and I still enjoy  listening to the recording.   I agree it wasn't so good at Newcastle (a bit croaky), but it was just after the Leeds concert - however, I loved the one at Verona!

Leeds was a great show in 2019, Salvation Army aside I did enjoy it....
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: koobaa on October 26, 2021, 07:24:06 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

 :clap :clap  These two posts for me.  I got into his music for the guitar and enjoyed his unique vocal.  Back during the 2019 tour it was evident he couldn't even perform a passable vocal, his voice being very weak sounding.  R&J is dreadful from this tour. Indeed the last tour it was anywhere near decent was 2006.

Set Full of Holes.  LOL moment. Cheered me up today.

Would you still go and see him if he played in your area or wouldn't bother then?
It's obvious that he lacks virtuosity in his guitar playing as he used to but he still has that MK touch that will remain unique even if it's just simple phrasing here and there. People will want to see him as long as he cares to show up and perform. I know I will, and I'm pretty certain it will be hard to get that ticket.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 26, 2021, 07:34:39 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

 :clap :clap  These two posts for me.  I got into his music for the guitar and enjoyed his unique vocal.  Back during the 2019 tour it was evident he couldn't even perform a passable vocal, his voice being very weak sounding.  R&J is dreadful from this tour. Indeed the last tour it was anywhere near decent was 2006.

Set Full of Holes.  LOL moment. Cheered me up today.

Would you still go and see him if he played in your area or wouldn't bother then?
It's obvious that he lacks virtuosity in his guitar playing as he used to but he still has that MK touch that will remain unique even if it's just simple phrasing here and there. People will want to see him as long as he cares to show up and perform. I know I will, and I'm pretty certain it will be hard to get that ticket.

 :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 26, 2021, 07:38:32 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

 :clap :clap  These two posts for me.  I got into his music for the guitar and enjoyed his unique vocal.  Back during the 2019 tour it was evident he couldn't even perform a passable vocal, his voice being very weak sounding.  R&J is dreadful from this tour. Indeed the last tour it was anywhere near decent was 2006.

Set Full of Holes.  LOL moment. Cheered me up today.

Would you still go and see him if he played in your area or wouldn't bother then?
It's obvious that he lacks virtuosity in his guitar playing as he used to but he still has that MK touch that will remain unique even if it's just simple phrasing here and there. People will want to see him as long as he cares to show up and perform. I know I will, and I'm pretty certain it will be hard to get that ticket.

 :clap :clap :clap

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: hunter on October 26, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
Personally, I would only see Mark now in a NHB type of setting, where he'd play blues, country and light rock stuff that doesn't require virtuosity or a lot of finesse. I'm not interested in a half-assed version of the kind of shows he has done up until now, especially not in a big arena, nor am I interested in an evening with acoustic "campfire" songs.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2021, 07:47:04 PM
Happy for you that you feel this way, guys. Without the guitar playing, 50% - or maybe more - of what I think constitutes Mark Knopfler the artist is missing. The guitar is where he has channeled his most passionate emotions and which has more than made up for what he is lacking in terms of charisma and singing ability. It's not that I don't enjoy Mark's singing and voice, I do because of its uniqueness, but to me it's not enough.

Not only that, but his voice is not in the best shape either, after its baritone glory 10 years ago, now 80 shows are just too much for his voice and he clearly can't handle it anymore, even with long pauses. So to me the voice and guitar are equally as important, the voice maybe even more. Give me 10 shows instead of 80, but with good singing and guitar. Quality over quantity, love over gold, you know!

 :clap :clap  These two posts for me.  I got into his music for the guitar and enjoyed his unique vocal.  Back during the 2019 tour it was evident he couldn't even perform a passable vocal, his voice being very weak sounding.  R&J is dreadful from this tour. Indeed the last tour it was anywhere near decent was 2006.

Set Full of Holes.  LOL moment. Cheered me up today.

Would you still go and see him if he played in your area or wouldn't bother then?
It's obvious that he lacks virtuosity in his guitar playing as he used to but he still has that MK touch that will remain unique even if it's just simple phrasing here and there. People will want to see him as long as he cares to show up and perform. I know I will, and I'm pretty certain it will be hard to get that ticket.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: koobaa on October 26, 2021, 10:42:54 PM
Personally, I would only see Mark now in a NHB type of setting, where he'd play blues, country and light rock stuff that doesn't require virtuosity or a lot of finesse. I'm not interested in a half-assed version of the kind of shows he has done up until now, especially not in a big arena, nor am I interested in an evening with acoustic "campfire" songs.
Yes, these NHB shows were quite laid back and special but they had some tasty guitar licks in there for sure! That being said I think MK is still able to produce tasty licks, just more sporadic and less vigorously. I didn't feel his recent shows were half-arsed at all. He had a bigger line-up than in the hey day of DS! He may have hidden behind the wall of sound produced by others but they were still his songs, his melodies, his ideas. I used to be like dmg and originally got hooked by his guitar playing mainly, but now MK for me is a brilliant melody maker / composer / songwriter.
Anyways, the point is he would sell out an evening of campfire songs as well. No problem.   
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2021, 11:50:43 PM
I agree with every word koobaa:)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: superval99 on October 27, 2021, 08:19:42 AM
Personally, I would only see Mark now in a NHB type of setting, where he'd play blues, country and light rock stuff that doesn't require virtuosity or a lot of finesse. I'm not interested in a half-assed version of the kind of shows he has done up until now, especially not in a big arena, nor am I interested in an evening with acoustic "campfire" songs.
Yes, these NHB shows were quite laid back and special but they had some tasty guitar licks in there for sure! That being said I think MK is still able to produce tasty licks, just more sporadic and less vigorously. I didn't feel his recent shows were half-arsed at all. He had a bigger line-up than in the hey day of DS! He may have hidden behind the wall of sound produced by others but they were still his songs, his melodies, his ideas. I used to be like dmg and originally got hooked by his guitar playing mainly, but now MK for me is a brilliant melody maker / composer / songwriter.
Anyways, the point is he would sell out an evening of campfire songs as well. No problem.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Elin N on October 27, 2021, 08:57:32 AM
Agree Koobaa. I will take campfire songs over endless guitar solos any day. Like others have said, it is the combination of the guitar, the voice and the lyrics  :-)

If he decides to go all rockabilly/blues, I will probably use earplugs but still want to see him.. Songs like "Cornef beef city" and "Gator blood" might be more fun and easy for him to play, but it is really not what I prefer. I love "Silvertown", "Once upon a time", and that kind of songs.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: hunter on October 27, 2021, 09:06:04 AM
I love "Silvertown", "Once upon a time", and that kind of songs.


I prefer those kind of songs as well, but the fact is that they require a certain proficiency on the guitar and energy to make them sound well/right. On the last tour he was just getting by. I don't think he will have improved by the time of the next tour.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 27, 2021, 10:01:49 AM
I love "Silvertown", "Once upon a time", and that kind of songs.


I prefer those kind of songs as well, but the fact is that they require a certain proficiency on the guitar and energy to make them sound well/right. On the last tour he was just getting by. I don't think he will have improved by the time of the next tour.

Next tour??
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: hunter on October 27, 2021, 10:03:12 AM
I love "Silvertown", "Once upon a time", and that kind of songs.


I prefer those kind of songs as well, but the fact is that they require a certain proficiency on the guitar and energy to make them sound well/right. On the last tour he was just getting by. I don't think he will have improved by the time of the next tour.

Next tour??


I should have written "by a potential next tour".
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 27, 2021, 10:06:08 AM
I love "Silvertown", "Once upon a time", and that kind of songs.


I prefer those kind of songs as well, but the fact is that they require a certain proficiency on the guitar and energy to make them sound well/right. On the last tour he was just getting by. I don't think he will have improved by the time of the next tour.

Next tour??


I should have written "by a potential next tour".

 ;) :thumbsup
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 27, 2021, 10:30:15 AM
I love "Silvertown", "Once upon a time", and that kind of songs.


I prefer those kind of songs as well, but the fact is that they require a certain proficiency on the guitar and energy to make them sound well/right. On the last tour he was just getting by. I don't think he will have improved by the time of the next tour.

Next tour??


I should have written "by a potential next tour".

There is not going to be any potential next tour.

If we are lucky, we would have some concerts, but tour, we are not going to have any other tour, at least as the ones we are used to with European and North American dates, of around 80 concerts, that's gone.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 27, 2021, 10:31:41 AM
I love "Silvertown", "Once upon a time", and that kind of songs.


I prefer those kind of songs as well, but the fact is that they require a certain proficiency on the guitar and energy to make them sound well/right. On the last tour he was just getting by. I don't think he will have improved by the time of the next tour.

Next tour??


I should have written "by a potential next tour".

There is not going to be any potential next tour.

If we are lucky, we would have some concerts, but tour, we are not going to have any other tour, at least as the ones we are used to with European and North American dates, of around 80 concerts, that's gone.

As we keep pointing out!!!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: hunter on October 27, 2021, 10:41:57 AM
Tour, series of shows, whatever. A tour can be small.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 27, 2021, 10:48:17 AM
Tour, series of shows, whatever. A tour can be small.

Or sadly nothing at all...Time will tell...
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 27, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
Tour, series of shows, whatever. A tour can be small.

Or sadly nothing at all...Time will tell...

Yes.

Sadly, after anything is announced, we should forget the term "Tour" as we knew it, something across Europe or North America, with around 80 concerts.

If in the future, if something is announced and it is a short tour, then we have a new meaning for the term tour to use, luckily!

I have hopes that after the next band sessions, having all of the musicians together, something wakes up in MK's spirit and decide that it worths to do something live, something like the short UK tour that Genesis planned, or at least a series of concerts at the RAH, althought I don't see that as economically viable.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 27, 2021, 01:33:14 PM
Tour, series of shows, whatever. A tour can be small.

The shows would be small; the only song he could play would be I Used to Could.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 27, 2021, 02:08:59 PM
Tour, series of shows, whatever. A tour can be small.

The shows would be small; the only song he could play would be I Used to Could.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 27, 2021, 03:00:45 PM
I really cannot imagine that Mark doesn't want to play live anymore. Probably on a smaller scale would be fine with him, at least to complete the circuit (writing, recording, performing) so many times he talked about.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 27, 2021, 03:57:52 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: MagicElliott on October 27, 2021, 04:17:27 PM
We really do have an amazing ability to turn any thread into a discussion about what we think Mark’s future holds don’t we?!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: quizzaciously on October 27, 2021, 05:14:41 PM
We really do have an amazing ability to turn any thread into a discussion about what we think Mark’s future holds don’t we?!!

"Looking forward only" :lol
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 27, 2021, 05:44:40 PM
We really do have an amazing ability to turn any thread into a discussion about what we think Mark’s future holds don’t we?!!

This thread is about the future!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 27, 2021, 06:28:37 PM
Yes, and they say Mark's only looking forward and not back, so I guess this thread is ok.  ;)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 27, 2021, 06:44:31 PM
It is interesting. Mark doesn't look back. But in songs, he often looks to the past. He writes more and more autobiographical songs.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 28, 2021, 02:03:46 PM
It is interesting. Mark doesn't look back. But in songs, he often looks to the past. He writes more and more autobiographical songs.

I think he does actually look back but Guy uses this statement in order to avoid answering awkward questions.  ;)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 28, 2021, 02:31:51 PM
Yes. He does not return to DS, he does not present new versions of old songs. He doesn't record covers etc. But he looks back in his songs. And for that I appreciate him very much.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 28, 2021, 06:32:47 PM
Yes. He does not return to DS, he does not present new versions of old songs. He doesn't record covers etc. But he looks back in his songs. And for that I appreciate him very much.
.

Very well said!  :thumbsup I exactly see it like you.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 28, 2021, 06:36:24 PM
I'm glad :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 28, 2021, 08:36:58 PM
Yes. He does not return to DS, he does not present new versions of old songs. He doesn't record covers etc. But he looks back in his songs. And for that I appreciate him very much.

And yet he plays them, as well as other old solo songs at his shows.  The only time he didn't look back was on the first tour!  People buy tickets for his shows based on his past.  His considerable reputation, for which he should be proud of, is based on his past.  It's not a realistic statement to make.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 28, 2021, 08:54:29 PM
Agreed, but I didn't think about concerts specifically. I was thinking about the future of MK. There are 20 new songs on each album. He is very creative  with the passing of time. I wrote earlier that I appreciate him that he doesn't record any covers, Christmas songs. Mark writes new songs all the time - this is his future.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 28, 2021, 09:59:50 PM
It is interesting. Mark doesn't look back. But in songs, he often looks to the past. He writes more and more autobiographical songs.

I think he does actually look back but Guy uses this statement in order to avoid answering awkward questions.  ;)

What he means with that is that he doesn't look back to unreleased songs or unreleased live cds or dvds.

When it comes to songs released, they are all his songs and, as he says, he plays what he feels like playing.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 29, 2021, 07:58:56 AM
Personally, I would only see Mark now in a NHB type of setting, where he'd play blues, country and light rock stuff that doesn't require virtuosity or a lot of finesse. I'm not interested in a half-assed version of the kind of shows he has done up until now, especially not in a big arena, nor am I interested in an evening with acoustic "campfire" songs.

How about if he were to play some small shows like the 'showcase' ones he did in 2007 which were awesome! and the added bonus - No blooming Brass! Just a pure 5 piece Knopfler band!!
I mention this as I've just re-watched both the Berlin & Basel Showcases and reflected on how good these were!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: qjamesfloyd on October 29, 2021, 08:21:11 AM
It is interesting. Mark doesn't look back. But in songs, he often looks to the past. He writes more and more autobiographical songs.

I think he does actually look back but Guy uses this statement in order to avoid answering awkward questions.  ;)

What he means with that is that he doesn't look back to unreleased songs or unreleased live cds or dvds.

When it comes to songs released, they are all his songs and, as he says, he plays what he feels like playing.


I wish he would feel like playing Two Skinny Kids ;)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 29, 2021, 09:00:38 AM
It is interesting. Mark doesn't look back. But in songs, he often looks to the past. He writes more and more autobiographical songs.

I think he does actually look back but Guy uses this statement in order to avoid answering awkward questions.  ;)

What he means with that is that he doesn't look back to unreleased songs or unreleased live cds or dvds.

When it comes to songs released, they are all his songs and, as he says, he plays what he feels like playing.


I wish he would feel like playing Two Skinny Kids ;)

Which is an unreleased song and those are the ones he doesn't look back, only forward!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: qjamesfloyd on October 29, 2021, 10:21:07 AM
It is, ironically, a song about looking back. He did look back when playing Once Upon a Time in The West though, so the looking forward thing is not always true. Like has been said, it is a get out of jail free card for Guy to play when asked these type of questions, and I would do the same if I were him.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: quizzaciously on October 29, 2021, 11:22:17 AM
It is, ironically, a song about looking back. He did look back when playing Once Upon a Time in The West though, so the looking forward thing is not always true. Like has been said, it is a get out of jail free card for Guy to play when asked these type of questions, and I would do the same if I were him.

Technically we all live in the past, so you can't really look forward, and any song becomes "old" upon being released. The song was released, which means it's an old song, not a new one anymore, and you're looking back when playing it! A true looking forward guy would only play brand new songs each time only once and never recorded any of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTOODPf-iuc
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on October 29, 2021, 11:30:31 AM
It is, ironically, a song about looking back. He did look back when playing Once Upon a Time in The West though, so the looking forward thing is not always true. Like has been said, it is a get out of jail free card for Guy to play when asked these type of questions, and I would do the same if I were him.

I insist in "looking back" doesn't mean looking back to his released catalogue in order to play it live in concerts, but to do nice things with that catalogue (like releasing a full edition of Alchemy or a special edition of the first album with demos or unreleased tracks) or release unreleased stuff, like the Madrid 2001 dvd, the unreleased STP songs etc

Looking forward means to them to release new stuff, not revisiting the old that wasn't released no matter these are worth to be revisited.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 29, 2021, 01:48:22 PM
Exactly. Mark doesn't have to go back to old topics. He doesn't have to do anything. Has many new songs for each album. Of course I would like to hear Batting For England and Back in the Day but I'm looking forward to new songs.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 29, 2021, 01:55:09 PM
Exactly. Mark doesn't have to go back to old topics. He doesn't have to do anything. Has many new songs for each album. Of course I would like to hear Batting For England and Back in the Day but I'm looking forward to new songs.

Hasn't he just released a set of remasters?  That's looking waaaaay back!  Also including Long Highway, an unreleased song first played in 1991!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 29, 2021, 01:55:52 PM
But these songs existed before. This is nothing new :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 29, 2021, 01:59:52 PM
Exactly. Mark doesn't have to go back to old topics. He doesn't have to do anything. Has many new songs for each album. Of course I would like to hear Batting For England and Back in the Day but I'm looking forward to new songs.

Hasn't he just released a set of remasters?  That's looking waaaaay back!  Also including Long Highway, an unreleased song first played in 1991!

Moving on!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: ds1984 on October 29, 2021, 07:39:15 PM
Exactly. Mark doesn't have to go back to old topics. He doesn't have to do anything. Has many new songs for each album. Of course I would like to hear Batting For England and Back in the Day but I'm looking forward to new songs.

Hasn't he just released a set of remasters?  That's looking waaaaay back!  Also including Long Highway, an unreleased song first played in 1991!

Are you serious?
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 29, 2021, 08:00:53 PM
Exactly. Mark doesn't have to go back to old topics. He doesn't have to do anything. Has many new songs for each album. Of course I would like to hear Batting For England and Back in the Day but I'm looking forward to new songs.

Hasn't he just released a set of remasters?  That's looking waaaaay back!  Also including Long Highway, an unreleased song first played in 1991!

Are you serious?

 :o
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 30, 2021, 01:49:27 PM
Exactly. Mark doesn't have to go back to old topics. He doesn't have to do anything. Has many new songs for each album. Of course I would like to hear Batting For England and Back in the Day but I'm looking forward to new songs.

Hasn't he just released a set of remasters?  That's looking waaaaay back!  Also including Long Highway, an unreleased song first played in 1991!

Are you serious?

Yes.  The first show of the OES tour, 23rd Aug, unless I'm mistaken.

Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 30, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
But The Long Highway is the B side of the single What It Is 21 years ago.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 30, 2021, 03:41:50 PM
But The Long Highway is the B side of the single What It Is 21 years ago.

This is my point.  You are saying he doesn't look back.  :hmm
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 30, 2021, 03:51:49 PM
Why are you mentioning The Long Highway? :think
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dmg on October 30, 2021, 04:35:19 PM
Why are you mentioning The Long Highway? :think

It has been released as part of the recent remaster series.  As I never bought the entire remaster package I decided to buy the WII EP from Apple Music, so I decided to use LH as an example.  The title is also quite apt!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 30, 2021, 04:47:19 PM
Ok. I thought you forgot about maxi single What It Is (2000) :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 30, 2021, 04:55:06 PM
But The Long Highway is the B side of the single What It Is 21 years ago.

This is my point.  You are saying he doesn't look back.  :hmm

?????? :hmm :hmm

Sounds like a really interesting discussion - not!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 30, 2021, 05:00:23 PM
Sometimes discussion = misunderstandings. It's natural.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 30, 2021, 05:09:02 PM
Sometimes discussion = misunderstandings. It's natural.

Boring subject about MK looking back, looking forward, looking sideways!!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on October 30, 2021, 05:24:17 PM
It is not boring. It is interesting to me.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: ds1984 on October 31, 2021, 06:36:31 PM
I have created a dedicated subject for those interested in pursuing it

Existing messages here have been copied and pasted.  See https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7918.0

So this thread can go back to its original topic.

Have peace and relax  :wave
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on November 23, 2021, 11:13:13 AM
I'd say that band sessions at British Grove would happen probably on February 14th...

Why? Because McGoldrick and McCusker are playing in the Transatlantic Sessions tour that ends on February 12th, Saturday, so next monday they are free, and that's the 14th!

It's just a guess.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on May 26, 2022, 01:40:16 PM
Look what John McCusker has twitted...

Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins are next for MK new record!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on May 26, 2022, 01:46:55 PM
There will be complaints in a moment :)

I am happy :)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: rmarques821 on May 26, 2022, 02:57:27 PM
Look what John McCusker has twitted...

Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins are next for MK new record!
Oh no! Please don't overuse them, Mark. 1 or 2 songs would be fine.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Elin N on May 26, 2022, 04:50:52 PM
Saw this too, but it didn't mention anything about MK? "Just" photos from BG?
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Robson on May 26, 2022, 05:10:49 PM
but it is #recording #markknopfler
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Billy’s Tune on May 26, 2022, 07:00:42 PM
But … the first sentence refers to recording at BG, the second sentence then says “now off to record with Tom and Graeme” - which I would take as a separate different session or project. So I’d say they’re not on the album.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on May 26, 2022, 11:08:42 PM
Look what John McCusker has twitted...

Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins are next for MK new record!
Oh no! Please don't overuse them, Mark. 1 or 2 songs would be fine.

Exactly my thought!  ;)
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: KnopfleRick on May 26, 2022, 11:12:18 PM
But … the first sentence refers to recording at BG, the second sentence then says “now off to record with Tom and Graeme” - which I would take as a separate different session or project. So I’d say they’re not on the album.

I hope so!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: qjamesfloyd on May 27, 2022, 08:17:47 AM
Yes, this doesn't necessarily mean it's for Mark's album, it could be something else and they are recording at British Grove, it's a bit ambiguous. It could just be wishful thinking on my part though, I just hope it's no for Mark's album!!!
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: jbaent on May 27, 2022, 09:32:40 AM
Yes, this doesn't necessarily mean it's for Mark's album, it could be something else and they are recording at British Grove, it's a bit ambiguous. It could just be wishful thinking on my part though, I just hope it's no for Mark's album!!!

Mark Knopfler is tagged in the post.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 27, 2022, 10:07:04 AM
Steph Geremia also tagged...
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: qjamesfloyd on May 27, 2022, 10:21:39 AM
I know, but it might be to make it reach a bigger audience, the chances are it is for Mark's album though, I was just hoping for no more horns this time.
Title: Re: New album after the last from November 2018 ?
Post by: Billy’s Tune on June 11, 2022, 10:47:46 AM
Latest pics from John mccusker show both Tom and Graeme in Ealing Studios on a totally different project! So again I suspect they are not on the new MK album (maybe because Tom was visibly bored stiff on the tour!).