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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: jbaent on January 11, 2022, 12:54:10 PM

Title: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 11, 2022, 12:54:10 PM
As far as we know, this project involves "every guitar legend" and according Guy, he has recorded, between others, Albert Lee, Eric Clapton, Peter Townsend and Mark Knopfler.

Apparently this is going to be for a charity record, but I asked Guy if this is going to be expanded to a concert at the RAH, like the usual Teenage Cancert Trust concerts, that had been canceled from 2020 to today, and he answered he can't say just yet.

I opened this thread to have the info about this project in its own thread.

https://vwmusicrocks.com/an-interview-with-guy-fletcher-of-dire-straits/?fbclid=IwAR1LMKI4fCym3LVQcioMy1u1tGaXSjfxmcjA-_at5QRXYB8ErgsX_BgFhBA
Guy:
I am also producing a charity project for Teenage Cancer Trust, which involves just about every great living guitar player, an enormous collaboration. More on that in a few months.


From his forum:
The charity project is for Teenage Cancer Trust/The Buddy Holly Foundation. I am producing a recording which involves a host of players, some of which I have already recorded at BG (Pete Townshed, Albert Lee, Eric C. and of course M.K.) More on this in the coming weeks.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 11, 2022, 12:55:18 PM
Teenage Cancer Trust concerts site

https://www.teenagecancertrust.org/about-us/news/update-our-2021-teenage-cancer-gigs

The Buddy Holly fundation

https://www.tbhef.org/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 11, 2022, 02:23:57 PM
So far, he has mentioned only British players, I wonder who else could be included? is it Guy's choices of who is included? or the trust? will they be playing Buddy Holly songs?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 11, 2022, 05:41:55 PM
I think Guy is only producing. Roger Daltrey and Pete Townsend are involved with the TCT so I guess it's them who asked people to participate.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 11, 2022, 05:49:27 PM
Which others guitar legends could be in this project?

I'd say that Hank Marvin might be one, maybe David Gilmour, Peter Frampton... Maybe searching for the patrons of the Buddy Holly foundation we could guess more.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on January 11, 2022, 07:49:50 PM
Jeff Lynne would be nice and also David Gilmour ofcourse
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on January 11, 2022, 08:20:43 PM
Thanks for the news jbant. Maybe Snowy White? Maybe Chris Rea?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 12, 2022, 09:56:53 AM
All of those would be great, in particular David Gilmour, I'd also like to add Mike Oldfield, but then I always do ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on January 12, 2022, 11:17:32 AM
How does it work, do the artists play music Buddy Holly -style, or their own? MK has been involved in many tribute projects, and he clearly enjoys it, but it just not what I wish for. I hardly ever listen to his tribute stuff, except the one for JJ Cale.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 12, 2022, 11:55:11 AM
The song Mark did with Waylon Jennings for another Buddy Holly tribute album, Learning the Game, is wonderful.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 12, 2022, 11:57:19 AM
How does it work, do the artists play music Buddy Holly -style, or their own? MK has been involved in many tribute projects, and he clearly enjoys it, but it just not what I wish for. I hardly ever listen to his tribute stuff, except the one for JJ Cale.

We don't know much about this project yet.

That's why when I say something I always says "I guess" or "My guess".

My guess is that Pete Townsend, who is friend with MK, came to him and told him about a charity project, and his wish for use British Grove and he and his team for it, as long as Guy says he's producing it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: naif on January 12, 2022, 12:08:49 PM
The song Mark did with Waylon Jennings for another Buddy Holly tribute album, Learning the Game, is wonderful.

Yes, brillant song with tasty guitar licks.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on January 12, 2022, 12:51:28 PM
We will just have to disagree on that one. Listened to it right after the reply, and have already forgotten it..
I know we don't know much, I just wondered if there has been similar projects from the BH fondation  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 19, 2022, 10:04:40 AM
From Guy's forum:

Q: Hello Doc. As you would imagine, fans are quite curious about this charity project, that “every great living guitar player” sentende really fire up people’s expectation, and we started to imagine which other names apart on what you mentioned could be involved, our wild guess goes with names like David Gilmour, Peter Frampton and alikes, are our guess good? Also the information about the Buddy Holly fundation… Does it means these are going to be Holly’s songs sung and played by those artists?

A: Your guesses are good. Info on this exciting project very soon.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on January 19, 2022, 11:32:50 AM
Please, do a live gig to promote it!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 19, 2022, 11:52:14 AM
Please, do a live gig to promote it!

I asked Guy about that too, as "The Teenage Cancer Trust" usually schedule live gigs at the Royal Albert Hall with many stars sharing the stage (in 2003 they scheduled one concert with Mark Knopfler and Eric Clapton, but was when Mk had his motorbike accident so MK canceled), and the 2020 series were canceled because of the lockdown, the shows were rescheduled for 2021, and they were canceled in the end. I think that's the reason why they did this charity project, as the charity losed all the funds they usually gets for this gigs, so, I asked Guy if this project would have an extension to the RAH stage as well, as the TCT concerts were finally canceled, and he answered exactly this:

I cannot say just yet

I really hope there is a concert from this project, and MK is part of it, but I think the tickets might be expensive, but... since is unlikely MK won't tour again, the price would worth paying!

Let's see when the project is announced, if they also include a live show.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on January 19, 2022, 01:06:53 PM
Please, do a live gig to promote it!

I asked Guy about that too, as "The Teenage Cancer Trust" usually schedule live gigs at the Royal Albert Hall with many stars sharing the stage (in 2003 they scheduled one concert with Mark Knopfler and Eric Clapton, but was when Mk had his motorbike accident so MK canceled), and the 2020 series were canceled because of the lockdown, the shows were rescheduled for 2021, and they were canceled in the end. I think that's the reason why they did this charity project, as the charity losed all the funds they usually gets for this gigs, so, I asked Guy if this project would have an extension to the RAH stage as well, as the TCT concerts were finally canceled, and he answered exactly this:

I cannot say just yet

I really hope there is a concert from this project, and MK is part of it, but I think the tickets might be expensive, but... since is unlikely MK won't tour again, the price would worth paying!

Let's see when the project is announced, if they also include a live show.

I would bet my life on it this will never happen.  Just forget it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on January 21, 2022, 06:17:32 PM
It could happen, why not. But i doubt if every player from the album will be present…..
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2022, 01:28:58 PM
It could happen, why not. But i doubt if every player from the album will be present…..

As long as MK is on it  ;D :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on March 31, 2022, 11:56:44 AM
From Guy today:

"I can’t say anything just yet apart from it’s very exciting. Might be able to post something very soon"

Hopefully it will see the light of day in 2022!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on March 31, 2022, 01:13:49 PM
From Guy today:

"I can’t say anything just yet apart from it’s very exciting. Might be able to post something very soon"

Hopefully it will see the light of day in 2022!

It depends on a vinyl release  :smack
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 31, 2022, 01:25:22 PM
Not. It will not be released on vinyl, therefore the premiere this year :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on April 24, 2022, 04:17:31 PM
Saw this on instagram today.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on April 24, 2022, 04:22:47 PM
Thanks!   Nice picture.    :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: knopflertom on April 24, 2022, 06:15:09 PM
Mark looks good on this pic  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on April 24, 2022, 06:24:31 PM
There's a couple more too, also with Sam Fender who is involved.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on April 24, 2022, 06:30:33 PM
Here they are:
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on April 24, 2022, 06:43:20 PM
Amazing pictures Thanks:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on April 24, 2022, 09:39:52 PM
When were they taken?
Are the pics from last year's sessions for the charity project?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: marki on April 24, 2022, 10:27:26 PM
They are from a few days ago (April 22). Sting also spent the day(s) in British Grove.
Seems like a guitar auction (many signatures on each) for charity.
They say it’s “the biggest most ambitious project ever”
Let’s wait and see…
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on April 25, 2022, 12:49:12 AM
They say it’s “the biggest most ambitious project ever”
Let’s wait and see…

You mean Dire Straits and Friends reuniting at Wembley Stadium?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on April 25, 2022, 12:53:36 AM
They say it’s “the biggest most ambitious project ever”
Let’s wait and see…

You mean Dire Straits and Friends reuniting at Wembley Stadium?

Hahahahahahaahahaha!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 25, 2022, 11:01:23 AM
On the theme of Sam Fender - I note he starts his gigs with LH...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sam-fender-local-hero-newcastle-23618108

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 25, 2022, 12:11:38 PM
On the theme of Sam Fender - I note he starts his gigs with LH...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sam-fender-local-hero-newcastle-23618108

He seems like a proud Geordie and played LH when he was on Ant and Dec earlier in the year. I bet he was thrilled to meet MK.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 25, 2022, 02:50:11 PM
On the theme of Sam Fender - I note he starts his gigs with LH...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sam-fender-local-hero-newcastle-23618108

He seems like a proud Geordie and played LH when he was on Ant and Dec earlier in the year. I bet he was thrilled to meet MK.

Just as much as any of us who have been lucky enough to have met MK know!!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on April 26, 2022, 10:19:35 AM
Seems like it has been a long time since Mark and Sting were photographed together.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 26, 2022, 11:19:23 AM
Seems like it has been a long time since Mark and Sting were photographed together.

Last time: 15/09/1997 (Montserrat concert)?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on April 26, 2022, 08:31:30 PM
Looking at a post on FB from Guy it looks like it was Sting and Sam Fender who recorded together and didn’t involve MK. He wasn’t mentioned. That’s no big shame for me, I’ve listened to Sam Fender and it’s not my cup of tea. Too poppy for me, not sure how good MK and SF would sound together. However it would have been great to have MK and Sting record together again.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on April 27, 2022, 09:13:44 AM
On the theme of Sam Fender - I note he starts his gigs with LH...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sam-fender-local-hero-newcastle-23618108

He seems like a proud Geordie and played LH when he was on Ant and Dec earlier in the year. I bet he was thrilled to meet MK.

Just as much as any of us who have been lucky enough to have met MK know!!
thnx. now i know who that guy with the hat is next to mark (see article)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on April 28, 2022, 02:28:29 PM
Seems like it has been a long time since Mark and Sting were photographed together.
Yes, especially if you look at MK's beautiful, round belly.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on April 29, 2022, 07:31:14 PM
Seems like it has been a long time since Mark and Sting were photographed together.
Yes, especially if you look at MK's beautiful, round belly.

That’s actually the Henrik Hansen dvd hidden under his jumper lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on April 29, 2022, 07:42:12 PM
Mark recently presented Sam Fender with this Atkin guitar painted by Ian Ward, as a new ambassador of The Buddy Holly Foundation, while working on a project for the charities Teenage Cancer and Teenage Cancer America. Mark became an Ambassador for The Buddy Holly Foundation in 2019.

We see John Bratby's "Watching TV" image more clearly :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on April 30, 2022, 02:32:27 PM
Seems like it has been a long time since Mark and Sting were photographed together.
Yes, especially if you look at MK's beautiful, round belly.

That’s actually the Henrik Hansen dvd hidden under his jumper lol

So it's coming as a box set then!  :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on April 30, 2022, 07:41:38 PM
Seems like it has been a long time since Mark and Sting were photographed together.
Yes, especially if you look at MK's beautiful, round belly.

That’s actually the Henrik Hansen dvd hidden under his jumper lol

So it's coming as a box set then!  :lol

A big one lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on May 17, 2022, 05:48:08 PM
I wonder when we will have more info about this project  :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on May 20, 2022, 10:24:49 AM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/18625548/sam-fender-bruce-springsteen-charity-track/

Sam Fender: " Speaking to Bizarre at The Ivors at London’s Grosvenor House hotel yesterday, the North Shields-born singer explained: “Sting occasionally FaceTimes us, weirdly I always end up being in the bath.

“We were in the studio the other day. I did a charity thing with him and Mark Knopfler.

“I just did some guitar stuff, which was the most f***ing nerve-wracking thing ever, going in to do a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song, he’s one of the best guitarists ever.
"

So, or Sam Fender played guitar for the next MK record, or the charity thing is going to have MK songs on it!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 20, 2022, 11:01:47 AM
Surely it's for the Buddy Holly thing. Or MK is maybe targeting the youth market for his next album. Harry Styles guest vocals on another song about Elvis or Sonny Liston.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on May 22, 2022, 04:22:40 PM
>“We were in the studio the other day. I did a charity thing with him and Mark Knopfler.

It is definitely for the Buddy record and with Springsteen too.
Surely Guy can't mess this up ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on May 22, 2022, 05:37:03 PM
With Springsteen? This is official news?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 22, 2022, 08:32:24 PM
Springsteen is mentioned but it doesn’t explicitly say that he is on the same track… could be another track on the album features Springsteen.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on May 22, 2022, 09:22:59 PM
Yes. Everything is very mysterious and I am becoming impatient.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on May 23, 2022, 10:49:00 AM
Reading this, it seems like Bruce is on the same track with Sam, Sting and Mark, and lots of others too, I wonder if there are several songs by individual artists and a group song with lots of them :think It will be interesting to know if this is a new MK song or a Buddy Holly song? Buddy Holly songs are not that long though.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/18625548/sam-fender-bruce-springsteen-charity-track/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 23, 2022, 11:38:29 AM
Reading this, it seems like Bruce is on the same track with Sam, Sting and Mark, and lots of others too, I wonder if there are several songs by individual artists and a group song with lots of them :think It will be interesting to know if this is a new MK song or a Buddy Holly song? Buddy Holly songs are not that long though.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/18625548/sam-fender-bruce-springsteen-charity-track/

“Springsteen’s on it as well. There’s a million people." This to me reads like Springsteen could be on the album (along with the "million" people) but not necessarily on the same track...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on May 23, 2022, 12:20:10 PM
You know what usually happens in these situations - it takes years for Mark to record something that will no doubt turn out to be underwhelming.

I'd say one song - not written by Mark - with a short solo in the middle.  Sting on vocals.  Majority of the album will be Sam.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 23, 2022, 01:06:25 PM
You know what usually happens in these situations - it takes years for Mark to record something that will no doubt turn out to be underwhelming.

I'd say one song - not written by Mark - with a short solo in the middle.  Sting on vocals.  Majority of the album will be Sam.

My assumption was that they would all be Buddy Holly songs, like all those various tribute albums in the 90s (yes, there was already a Buddy Holly one).
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on May 23, 2022, 01:40:21 PM
Unfortunately you’re all wrong, they are still deciding what microphone to use before the project is finalised,
 :P
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on May 23, 2022, 02:49:35 PM
Unfortunately you’re all wrong, they are still deciding what microphone to use before the project is finalised,
 :P

It would be funny if not so tragic and probably true. Also, then they will wait for CD manufacturers to produce CDs! :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 24, 2022, 08:44:44 PM
My understanding is the usual tribute album with different artists singing different songs.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on May 25, 2022, 05:22:12 AM
My understanding is the usual tribute album with different artists singing different songs.

Which begs the question…what Buddy Holly song would we like MK to cover?
I think something like Rave On would work; a song which MK likes and has mentioned in an interview of two before.
He doesn’t have the smooth voice for something like Everyday or I guess it doesn’t matter anymore.

Tbh though, I can’t imagine Sting on any Holly song. Strong singing voice but I’m just not a fan of his style of music. (Think he’s also too old to be wearing a leather jacket.)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on May 25, 2022, 08:08:55 AM
The problem is, Buddy Holly songs are not long, most just a couple of minutes, so, to find a song where many guitarists have a chance to shine is not easy, I am wondering if they each take a Buddy song, plus all play on a song Mark has written :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: the visitor on May 25, 2022, 11:22:59 AM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on May 25, 2022, 11:24:42 AM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?

That's how I read it as well...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on May 25, 2022, 12:01:26 PM
Another interesting question is why this project takes even longer than the recording of an MK album?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on May 25, 2022, 12:22:43 PM
Another interesting question is why this project takes even longer than the recording of an MK album?

Can't get the bloody microphone position right...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on May 25, 2022, 12:38:01 PM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?

Confused me a little too.  Perhaps just a song with Mark.  I reckon with Sting in the studio on the same day all three must be on the same track.  :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on May 25, 2022, 02:58:21 PM
Another interesting question is why this project takes even longer than the recording of an MK album?

Because It involves a lot of diferents people?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on May 25, 2022, 03:09:54 PM
Another interesting question is why this project takes even longer than the recording of an MK album?

Because It involves a lot of diferents people?

That is usually planned and organized in advance.
Can you name a charity CD project that has dragged on for soooo long to materialize?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on May 25, 2022, 05:36:55 PM
Another interesting question is why this project takes even longer than the recording of an MK album?

Because It involves a lot of diferents people?

That is usually planned and organized in advance.
Can you name a charity CD project that has dragged on for soooo long to materialize?

I guess you have an answer to your own question.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on May 25, 2022, 07:03:29 PM
Another interesting question is why this project takes even longer than the recording of an MK album?

Can't get the bloody microphone position right...

Plus as soon as they’ve finished a cup of tea….they need another one
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on May 26, 2022, 12:26:58 PM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?

Confused me a little too.  Perhaps just a song with Mark.  I reckon with Sting in the studio on the same day all three must be on the same track.  :think

Maybe a re recording of Money for Nothing  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on May 27, 2022, 08:13:49 AM
It doesn't bother me how long it takes, it means I always have someone new to look forward to, plus with the amount of people Guy says is involved, you have to take into consideration what their work schedule is like too, they might not always be available.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on October 19, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
When to expect more news about this?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 19, 2022, 03:09:27 PM
Dunno, this thread is one of the first things that comes up when you Google it!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter on October 19, 2022, 04:10:57 PM
When to expect more news about this?


As soon as the Henrik Hansen project is done, I think.

 ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on October 19, 2022, 05:31:15 PM
My bet is it will be out earlier next year, to coincide with the RAH gigs in march for the Teenage Cancer Trust, that happens every year, during that month.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 20, 2022, 10:11:17 AM
Possibly, can also tie in with the day the music died.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on October 20, 2022, 01:17:40 PM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?

Hope not - can't stand the guy.  His antics at Glastonbury were a disgrace and his performance a lowlight for the middle-class wannabe yuppies attending.  Just my opinion of course. 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 20, 2022, 02:59:32 PM
I like him, seems like a nice kid, doing "real" music and showing respect for legends like MK and that other guy he did the documentary about. :) Good luck to him!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on October 27, 2022, 09:16:21 AM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?

Hope not - can't stand the guy.  His antics at Glastonbury were a disgrace and his performance a lowlight for the middle-class wannabe yuppies attending.  Just my opinion of course. 
must have missed that. what antics do you mean?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 28, 2022, 09:45:54 AM
Yeah I just read a review and can't see what the problem is?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on October 28, 2022, 09:50:32 PM
He’s cancelled a load of tour dates to look after his mental health.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on October 29, 2022, 03:05:35 PM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?

Hope not - can't stand the guy.  His antics at Glastonbury were a disgrace and his performance a lowlight for the middle-class wannabe yuppies attending.  Just my opinion of course. 
must have missed that. what antics do you mean?

He started climbing up the scaffolding at the side of the stage teasing the security.  He also wasn't really very good.  It could've been the TRNSMT show.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 01, 2022, 01:56:09 PM
The quote says Sam Fender did a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song.  So probably for the charity project, but on a song written by MK?

Hope not - can't stand the guy.  His antics at Glastonbury were a disgrace and his performance a lowlight for the middle-class wannabe yuppies attending.  Just my opinion of course. 
must have missed that. what antics do you mean?

He started climbing up the scaffolding at the side of the stage teasing the security.  He also wasn't really very good.  It could've been the TRNSMT show.

The horror!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on December 20, 2022, 05:07:42 PM
My bet is it will be out earlier next year, to coincide with the RAH gigs in march for the Teenage Cancer Trust, that happens every year, during that month.
When do they usauly announce those gigs?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on January 12, 2023, 11:50:53 AM
I have just checked the TCT site, the Buddy site and the RAH site. No info about album nor concert. Is the concert an annual thing in March? The hall already has concerts out for December, but no TeenageCancerTrust. So what is happening? MK gets involved in the project and the whole thing stops? I mean, it really can't be like that :lol :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on January 15, 2023, 12:51:16 PM
Reply from TCT: "Yes, we are planning these events for the end of March. The announcement and tickets will most likely be live in the next  4 to 6 weeks but do keep an eye out on our social media for announcement"
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 24, 2023, 12:17:03 PM
Reply from TCT: "Yes, we are planning these events for the end of March. The announcement and tickets will most likely be live in the next  4 to 6 weeks but do keep an eye out on our social media for announcement"

Coincidentally, Guy says we are reading about the TCT project in the next few weeks.

Logical says there must be one of those concerts linked to the record, but Guy also says he's mixing it soon, so it sounds like unlikely the record could be out in time for the concerts that usually happen late March early April.

Also seems unlikely MK would be involved, because usually what we wish him to do is opposite to what he wants to do, but if there is a concert of a record in which he apparently was so involved, I guess that at least there is a chance even a very small one.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 25, 2023, 09:38:48 AM
The RAH is available between 20 and 26 of March, and after that is busy with many events so the Teenage Cancer Trust concerts are going to be in those days.

Now let's wait that one of those concerts are dedicated to that record and hopefully they manage to convince MK to play at least a couple of songs ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on January 25, 2023, 11:16:02 AM
The RAH dates from March 20-26 are "official" since TCT was advertising for volunteers for these 7 nights on its website.
But since Guy stated that nothing was planned regarding live performances I don't think we'll see an MK performance in less than 8 weeks for which the planning would be complete by now.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 25, 2023, 11:38:55 AM
The RAH dates from March 20-26 are "official" since TCT was advertising for volunteers for these 7 nights on its website.
But since Guy stated that nothing was planned regarding live performances I don't think we'll see an MK performance in less than 8 weeks for which the planning would be complete by now. Otherwise he would have said something like "a one-off night is always possible".

I'm on that website and don't see that advertising but, yes, it just confirm my guess, lol

However, the only way I see MK taking part on this is playing a couple of songs himself or with other musicians, that only would need a week or a couple of days to rehearse, like when he played at the Bill Wyman 80th birthday.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on January 25, 2023, 11:51:12 AM
They advertised for it back in November and the ad was taken off the website before Christmas.
I don't understand why they make such a secret out of it every year and announce these RAH charity (!) events only about a month before they happen. :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 25, 2023, 12:13:14 PM
They advertised for it back in November and the ad was taken off the website before Christmas.
I don't understand why they make such a secret out of it every year and announce these RAH charity (!) events only about a month before they happen. :think

Those events are special and I guess they want to do it short notice to avoide reselling, maybe?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 30, 2023, 08:32:49 AM
The concerts will be announced tomorrow, hope we also have information about the record, as Guy said it is connected ...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on January 30, 2023, 08:59:30 AM
Thanks!
At last we'll get some news!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 30, 2023, 09:22:37 AM
If there is at least a concert linked to the record, I guess the line band is going to be outstanding even MK is not playing. I'm sure he will be attending and see him at the RAH corridors will be amazing.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 30, 2023, 12:50:29 PM
Definitely, I'll never learn to ask questions properly, LOL

Q: Hello Guy. I saw in social media that tomorrow the TCT concerts at the RAH are going to be announced, there is going to happen also an announcement of the record? If there is one concert related to the project I hope there is any chance to see MK and you on the stage, please say yes!

A:It’s not for me to say I’m afraid, but there are plans being laid.


That could means probably more than about the record annoncement than MK and him playing at any of the gig, but at least he didn't say no. LOL
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 31, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
By now, the announcement is very disapointing...

Still tuesday, thursday and sunday free, so if there is something to be included related to the charity record, it would be one of those days, probably sunday.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnygQskXEAIXPak?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on January 31, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
yes, nothing related to the charity CD project. :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on January 31, 2023, 10:14:12 AM
You beat me with a minute  :lol Just saw it. It is a charity for teenage cancer, so it is no surprise to me that they aim for a younger audience. I guess the link to Buddy Holly comes from the fact that the charity -money comes from people older than me and who probably, like me, have never heard about the artists announced so far. 

I will be happily surprised if Mark plays anything.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 31, 2023, 10:28:23 AM
You beat me with a minute  :lol Just saw it. It is a charity for teenage cancer, so it is no surprise to me that they aim for a younger audience. I guess the link to Buddy Holly comes from the fact that the charity -money comes from people older than me and who probably, like me, have never heard about the artists announced so far. 

I will be happily surprised if Mark plays anything.

Take a look to other years bands... Last year they had Madness, Paul Weller and The Who! Also Liam Gallagher and Ed Sheeran, all names any person of the whole world would recognize. This years bands, only Kasabian rings a bell and I don't know what music they play at all...

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on January 31, 2023, 10:38:20 AM
Ok, so this is particularly bad? I don't know their strategy, maybe it is "very new and very old" this year  :lol  Of course I would love to see Mark on stage having fun, but I have more or less lost all hope :-\
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 31, 2023, 11:32:34 AM
I doubted a lot about how to post the question to Guy in order to have a good answer, I tried several options and looks like I finally made it right!

Looking forward to whatever is coming!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 31, 2023, 11:34:43 AM
Maybe MK's final performance on a big stage?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 31, 2023, 12:12:36 PM
Maybe MK's final performance on a big stage?

Nah, if there is anything related to MK, he will be part of a concert related to that charity record they are recording, but I don't think it's MK alone.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 31, 2023, 01:36:43 PM
Maybe for a couple of songs, let's wait and see
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 31, 2023, 06:17:02 PM
He removed your message and his answer
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 31, 2023, 10:19:29 PM
He removed your message and his answer

I can see it, it is still there at least for me...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 31, 2023, 11:48:45 PM
He removed your message and his answer

Ah yes, my bad
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 03, 2023, 11:54:32 AM
Google reminded me that today is the anniversary of the Buddy Holly death in that terrible accident... Maybe they would announce today the charity record and gigs?

I doubt it but it would had been a good day for it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 28, 2023, 12:44:40 PM
Just to add here the information that David Gilmour was last friday or saturday recording at British Grove for the TCT project, and that the info would be announced VERY SOON.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 28, 2023, 12:50:10 PM
DG reminds me of someone.

(https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-cast.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=1140&h=&dpr=1.5)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 28, 2023, 07:38:14 PM
Just to add here the information that David Gilmour was last friday or saturday recording at British Grove for the TCT project, and that the info would be announced VERY SOON.

The third picture state 25/02/2023
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: I am sophia on February 28, 2023, 11:41:55 PM
Google reminded me that today is the anniversary of the Buddy Holly death in that terrible accident... Maybe they would announce today the best fat burner for men (https://www.outlookindia.com/outlook-spotlight/best-fat-burners-2023-for-men-women-unbiased-reviews-of-six-top-notch-supplements-out-there--news-250488) charity record and gigs?

I doubt it but it would had been a good day for it.

No it's not a good day google just make to remind it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on March 01, 2023, 09:12:46 AM
If i´m correct Gilmour did in 2016 also 2 gigs for TCT in september in the Albert Hall. So maybe when he/they recorded a song for it there is also a possibilty that there also be later this year some extra TCT gigs are in the Albert Hall together with the release of that song.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 01, 2023, 10:09:34 AM
If i´m correct Gilmour did in 2016 also 2 gigs for TCT in september in the Albert Hall. So maybe when he/they recorded a song for it there is also a possibilty that there also be later this year some extra TCT gigs are in the Albert Hall together with the release of that song.

I think he also did one in the march run of the TCT concerts.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 03, 2023, 11:36:57 AM
https://www.teenagecancertrust.org/events/music-and-entertainment/teenage-cancer-trust-concert-royal-albert-hall

26 march maybe then...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2023, 01:32:54 PM
https://www.teenagecancertrust.org/events/music-and-entertainment/teenage-cancer-trust-concert-royal-albert-hall

26 march maybe then...

Unless they say something later, this gig seems to not having any relation with the charity record they are doing. As far as we know, according to Guy, involves most of the guitar legends alive, this gig doesn't have any guitar legend at all!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2023, 06:46:56 PM
MK
Albert Lee
Eric Clapton
Peter Townsend
Sting
David Gilmour

I wonder who else.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on March 03, 2023, 07:16:00 PM
If my memory isn’t tricking me I read somewhere Beck was involved before he passed.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2023, 09:42:40 AM
MK
Albert Lee
Eric Clapton
Peter Townsend
Sting
David Gilmour

I wonder who else.

Sam Fender
Bruce Springsteen
Peter Frampton
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 04, 2023, 12:41:49 PM
MK
Albert Lee
Eric Clapton
Peter Townsend
Sting
David Gilmour

I wonder who else.

Sam Fender
Bruce Springsteen
Peter Frampton

Yes! 9.

ps. Why I forgot about Bruce  :o
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 04, 2023, 09:19:58 PM



ps. Why I forgot about Bruce  :o

Because you think too much about Mark!  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 04, 2023, 09:22:10 PM



ps. Why I forgot about Bruce  :o

Because you think too much about Mark!  ;D

That's true :D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on March 05, 2023, 09:55:50 AM
Why is Sting on the list?
Springsteen is touring the USA until mid April and Lee is touring central Europe.
No desire to see Clapton,Townsend or Gilmour ever again so not much to see unless MK suddenly decides he wants to play a show again.
Let the youngsters entertain the RAH crowds-circle of live and all that ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 05, 2023, 10:37:45 AM
Why is Sting on the list?
Springsteen is touring the USA until mid April and Lee is touring central Europe.
No desire to see Clapton,Townsend or Gilmour ever again so not much to see unless MK suddenly decides he wants to play a show again.
Let the youngsters entertain the RAH crowds-circle of live and all that ;D

Because he is on the album.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 05, 2023, 05:54:15 PM
Why is Sting on the list?
Springsteen is touring the USA until mid April and Lee is touring central Europe.
No desire to see Clapton,Townsend or Gilmour ever again so not much to see unless MK suddenly decides he wants to play a show again.
Let the youngsters entertain the RAH crowds-circle of live and all that ;D

There is no concert related to this album yet.

The concerts announced for the annual TCT gigs at the RAH are not related to the charity record.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on March 05, 2023, 07:23:29 PM
Why is Sting on the list?
Springsteen is touring the USA until mid April and Lee is touring central Europe.
No desire to see Clapton,Townsend or Gilmour ever again so not much to see unless MK suddenly decides he wants to play a show again.
Let the youngsters entertain the RAH crowds-circle of live and all that ;D

There is no concert related to this album yet.

The concerts announced for the annual TCT gigs at the RAH are not related to the charity record.
And who wil perform at the annual TCT gigs?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 06, 2023, 08:21:11 AM
Why is Sting on the list?
Springsteen is touring the USA until mid April and Lee is touring central Europe.
No desire to see Clapton,Townsend or Gilmour ever again so not much to see unless MK suddenly decides he wants to play a show again.
Let the youngsters entertain the RAH crowds-circle of live and all that ;D

There is no concert related to this album yet.

The concerts announced for the annual TCT gigs at the RAH are not related to the charity record.
And who wil perform at the annual TCT gigs?

https://www.teenagecancertrust.org/events/music-and-entertainment/teenage-cancer-trust-concert-royal-albert-hall

Most of them unknown for me, except last day, Roger Daltrey, Richard Ashcroft and Joan Armatrading and others
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on March 06, 2023, 08:39:59 AM
It's the Teenage Cancer Trust so it's good that most of the acts are aimed at a younger market.
If it was the Moribund Trust then surely MK,Clapton and Gilmour would be headliners ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on March 22, 2023, 12:38:47 PM
We can add Vince Gill to the list, according to Guys answer on his forum today
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 22, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
MK
Albert Lee
Eric Clapton
Peter Townsend
Sting
David Gilmour
Sam Fender
Bruce Springsteen
Peter Frampton
Vince Gill

:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 22, 2023, 03:21:49 PM
Sounds to ne that Guy was referring to recording with Guy in the early 90's :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on March 22, 2023, 03:40:26 PM
Ah, maybe I misunderstood. He kind of doesn't fit in with the others anyway?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on March 22, 2023, 09:50:10 PM
Vince Gill is a fantastic guitarist!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on March 22, 2023, 09:56:01 PM
Vince Gill is a fantastic guitarist!

Just read Guy’s reply and looks like Vince is indeed part of the mysterious project.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 22, 2023, 10:00:31 PM
Vince Gill is a fantastic guitarist!

It sure is, but it's underrated. In Nashiville, no one doubts he's great.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 22, 2023, 10:06:01 PM
Ah, maybe I misunderstood. He kind of doesn't fit in with the others anyway?

Actually Guy says Vince Gill is in the charity project!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on March 23, 2023, 12:24:41 AM
MK
Albert Lee
Eric Clapton
Peter Townsend
Sting
David Gilmour
Sam Fender
Bruce Springsteen
Peter Frampton
Vince Gill

:)
Albert Lee? Wow! What a legend! Pancho and Lefty live with Emmylou comes to mind immediatly. Tasty guitar work
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter on March 23, 2023, 04:28:14 AM
Do we know anything about the songs that have been recorded? Is it new material? Re-recorded old material? Covers?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 23, 2023, 05:24:42 PM
We do not know. Maybe it will be an album like The Breeze: An Appreciation of JJ Cale.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 23, 2023, 05:27:29 PM
Do we know anything about the songs that have been recorded? Is it new material? Re-recorded old material? Covers?

It's a Buddy Holly tribute isn't it?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 23, 2023, 10:56:11 PM
Do we know anything about the songs that have been recorded? Is it new material? Re-recorded old material? Covers?

It's a Buddy Holly tribute isn't it?

I think someone, Sam Fender?, said he recorded a song written by MK... And he was talking about the charity project, if I understood well that interview.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 23, 2023, 11:20:06 PM
Do we know anything about the songs that have been recorded? Is it new material? Re-recorded old material? Covers?

It's a Buddy Holly tribute isn't it?

I think someone, Sam Fender?, said he recorded a song written by MK... And he was talking about the charity project, if I understood well that interview.

Ok, I don’t remember him saying that.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 24, 2023, 09:14:50 AM
Do we know anything about the songs that have been recorded? Is it new material? Re-recorded old material? Covers?

It's a Buddy Holly tribute isn't it?

I think someone, Sam Fender?, said he recorded a song written by MK... And he was talking about the charity project, if I understood well that interview.

Ok, I don’t remember him saying that.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/18625548/sam-fender-bruce-springsteen-charity-track/

Sam Fender: " Speaking to Bizarre at The Ivors at London’s Grosvenor House hotel yesterday, the North Shields-born singer explained: “Sting occasionally FaceTimes us, weirdly I always end up being in the bath.

“We were in the studio the other day. I did a charity thing with him and Mark Knopfler.

“I just did some guitar stuff, which was the most f***ing nerve-wracking thing ever, going in to do a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song, he’s one of the best guitarists ever.
"

So, or Sam Fender played guitar for the next MK record, or the charity thing is going to have MK songs on it!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 24, 2023, 09:32:48 AM
I am wondering if it has lots of covers, plus a song Mark has written as a tribute to Buddy, like he has done in the past about Elvis, The Everly Brothers, Lonnie Donegan etc.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 24, 2023, 09:34:25 AM
Do we know anything about the songs that have been recorded? Is it new material? Re-recorded old material? Covers?

It's a Buddy Holly tribute isn't it?

I think someone, Sam Fender?, said he recorded a song written by MK... And he was talking about the charity project, if I understood well that interview.

Ok, I don’t remember him saying that.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/18625548/sam-fender-bruce-springsteen-charity-track/

Sam Fender: " Speaking to Bizarre at The Ivors at London’s Grosvenor House hotel yesterday, the North Shields-born singer explained: “Sting occasionally FaceTimes us, weirdly I always end up being in the bath.

“We were in the studio the other day. I did a charity thing with him and Mark Knopfler.

“I just did some guitar stuff, which was the most f***ing nerve-wracking thing ever, going in to do a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song, he’s one of the best guitarists ever.
"

So, or Sam Fender played guitar for the next MK record, or the charity thing is going to have MK songs on it!


or maybe Sam fender was refering to a Buddy Holly cover sung by MK ? and he called it a "Mark Knopfler song" ?  :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 24, 2023, 11:44:10 AM
Do we know anything about the songs that have been recorded? Is it new material? Re-recorded old material? Covers?

It's a Buddy Holly tribute isn't it?

I think someone, Sam Fender?, said he recorded a song written by MK... And he was talking about the charity project, if I understood well that interview.

Ok, I don’t remember him saying that.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/18625548/sam-fender-bruce-springsteen-charity-track/

Sam Fender: " Speaking to Bizarre at The Ivors at London’s Grosvenor House hotel yesterday, the North Shields-born singer explained: “Sting occasionally FaceTimes us, weirdly I always end up being in the bath.

“We were in the studio the other day. I did a charity thing with him and Mark Knopfler.

“I just did some guitar stuff, which was the most f***ing nerve-wracking thing ever, going in to do a guitar take on a Mark Knopfler song, he’s one of the best guitarists ever.
"

So, or Sam Fender played guitar for the next MK record, or the charity thing is going to have MK songs on it!


or maybe Sam fender was refering to a Buddy Holly cover sung by MK ? and he called it a "Mark Knopfler song" ?  :think

I think this is most likely but we will see.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 25, 2023, 09:21:30 AM
Yes, Mark Knopfler song might be just like when you say, say, "Arnold Schwarzenegger movie". Doesn't need to be his movie, the sheer fact that he's in it makes it so.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 25, 2023, 09:24:53 AM
Given MKs famous anecdote about Telegraph Road and Rave On you would think MK wouldn’t risk putting one of his own compositions among a load of Buddy Holly songs. That would not end well.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter on March 25, 2023, 12:22:14 PM
Given MKs famous anecdote about Telegraph Road and Rave On you would think MK wouldn’t risk putting one of his own compositions among a load of Buddy Holly songs. That would not end well.


A man who makes "old toss", would he be an old tosser?  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 25, 2023, 12:51:14 PM
Given MKs famous anecdote about Telegraph Road and Rave On you would think MK wouldn’t risk putting one of his own compositions among a load of Buddy Holly songs. That would not end well.

What anecdote?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 25, 2023, 03:21:16 PM
It’s here but he’s told it loads of times

https://guitar.com/features/interviews/mark-knopfler/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 25, 2023, 03:47:16 PM
It’s here but he’s told it loads of times

https://guitar.com/features/interviews/mark-knopfler/

Great! Thank you dustyvalentino :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 25, 2023, 09:22:22 PM
It’s here but he’s told it loads of times

https://guitar.com/features/interviews/mark-knopfler/

You're right, didn't remember about it and actually I never gave importance to that, that's why I forget it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 25, 2023, 09:43:15 PM
yes, famous MK quote

I put it in my TR article  :)

https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/une-chanson-a-la-loupe-telegraph-road-de-dire-straits/

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on March 26, 2023, 02:17:08 PM
Another example of self depreciating Mark.

But Mark knows realy well he wrote good stuff.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 26, 2023, 04:30:06 PM
I can get that listening to a great straight rock song which is so good can make you feel that a monumental song like TR make it sounds like pretentious.

All progressive music can be considered like that when you listen to quality straight rock and roll.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on March 29, 2023, 07:20:17 PM
Another example of self depreciating Mark.

But Mark knows realy well he wrote good stuff.

If he genuinely felt that about TR, surely he’d never have played it live since that interview.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 29, 2023, 07:54:46 PM
Another example of self depreciating Mark.

But Mark knows realy well he wrote good stuff.

If he genuinely felt that about TR, surely he’d never have played it live since that interview.

This was discussed before, but I think Mark simply compares the seemingly overproduced "Telegraph Road" to live, one-take "Rave On", and hence Mark's comments. The studio version of Telegraph really does feel like it took a long time to put it together, maybe even too polished, so the comment is legit. No offence to the song itself, just this particular recording.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 29, 2023, 09:48:31 PM
It’s a great track, but 100% the wrong thing to stick on a jukebox in a pub.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 29, 2023, 10:02:57 PM
It’s a great track, but 100% the wrong thing to stick on a jukebox in a pub.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Billy’s Tune on April 01, 2023, 09:08:51 PM
Has the RAH gig happened - in which case I guess MK didn’t take part?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on April 01, 2023, 10:23:41 PM
Has the RAH gig happened - in which case I guess MK didn’t take part?

Not the one related to the charity project, but the usual ones that happen every year in March for the charity with various artists.

As long as the charity project is not released yet, not even announced, there won't any live gig related to the project, if there is any. Depending on the release date of the record if there is a live gig could happen out of that usual period, or just wait until March 23.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Billy’s Tune on April 02, 2023, 01:03:04 AM
Ok cool. I thought there was a night near end march where it hadn’t been decided if mark would play. Or is that something different? Not expecting him to though.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on April 02, 2023, 01:53:09 PM
Ok cool. I thought there was a night near end march where it hadn’t been decided if mark would play. Or is that something different? Not expecting him to though.

Roger Daltrey played the last night under the "and friends € name, apparently MK was asked to play but didn't.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on April 02, 2023, 05:43:03 PM
I thought that someone from the project would be amongst the "and friends" and would annonce it with something like "and we have more! We have been working on a project(explaining the project), and on *date* the album will be out!" The downside about knowing a tiny bit about something, is that I want to know more and end up being tired of the waiting.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on April 02, 2023, 06:20:30 PM
I thought that someone from the project would be amongst the "and friends" and would annonce it with something like "and we have more! We have been working on a project(explaining the project), and on *date* the album will be out!" The downside about knowing a tiny bit about something, is that I want to know more and end up being tired of the waiting.

Lol

Every time I see there's a new post in this thread I enter thinking "finally the announcement" and find disappointingly there is nothing yet, lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on April 02, 2023, 06:57:46 PM
I thought that someone from the project would be amongst the "and friends" and would annonce it with something like "and we have more! We have been working on a project(explaining the project), and on *date* the album will be out!" The downside about knowing a tiny bit about something, is that I want to know more and end up being tired of the waiting.

Lol

Every time I see there's a new post in this thread I enter thinking "finally the announcement" and find disappointingly there is nothing yet, lol

I have the same :) I wonder who will surprise me first.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on April 03, 2023, 06:56:27 PM
I dreamt it’s a cover up for a duets album Mark’s releasing. How awesome would that be? Of course I woke up and realised it’s not the case but it’s still cool.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on April 15, 2023, 02:25:06 PM
GF:

...I recorded Sting, and Sam on the same day for the ‘ongoing’  TCT / Teen Cancer America project which I am producing. Bruce Springsteen also made a wonderful contribution"

Nothing new but I thought any news about this project is good :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on April 15, 2023, 05:01:10 PM
So Bruce wasn't at BG but participated.
Maybe overdubbed his vocals
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on April 15, 2023, 07:46:20 PM
And he says ongoing so the project is still in the works??
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on April 15, 2023, 07:58:24 PM
So there will be a song with MK, Sting and Bruce? Wow.. That is news right?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on April 15, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
So there will be a song with MK, Sting and Bruce? Wow.. That is news right?

Not really, that was in an interview from more or less a year ago or maybe less, maybe more, where Sal Fender revealed all that.

I'd say that Springsteen just sent his contribution as an overdub.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on April 16, 2023, 09:57:00 AM
I didnt realised they were all on the same track. MK and Bruce sounds cool to me.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: drparkinson on April 16, 2023, 10:50:46 AM
My theory is that the TCT mystery track may be Money for Nothing.

From the information we have so far-

track is written by MK (from Sam fender interview),
recorded in MK's studio and produced by GF,
very important guitarists are featured - MFN is one of the most famous guitar riffs ever
the involvement of Sting (from Sam Fender interview) who is not a famous guitarist but did sing backing vocals on MFN and so may be recreating these

On a related note, I went to the recent TCT Roger Daltrey show at the Albert Hall as I am a Who fan but was also secretly hoping that the advertised "special guests" may include MK or something related to the mystery project, as Guy did not rule this out on his forum when he was asked (his response was "Still to be decided") but I think part of the reason this did not happen was that there were too many support acts (4) and so RD did not start his set until 10.15 and had to hurry through it to not break the 11pm curfew (the only "special guest" was Kelly Jones who was already there as part of one of the support acts).
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on April 16, 2023, 10:59:14 AM
My theory is that the TCT mystery track may be Money for Nothing.

From the information we have so far-

track is written by MK (from Sam fender interview),
recorded in MK's studio and produced by GF,
very important guitarists are featured - MFN is one of the most famous guitar riffs ever
the involvement of Sting (from Sam Fender interview) who is not a famous guitarist but did sing backing vocals on MFN and so may be recreating these

On a related note, I went to the recent TCT Roger Daltrey show at the Albert Hall as I am a Who fan but was also secretly hoping that the advertised "special guests" may include MK or something related to the mystery project, as Guy did not rule this out on his forum when he was asked (his response was "Still to be decided") but I think part of the reason this did not happen was that there were too many support acts (4) and so RD did not start his set until 10.15 and had to hurry through it to not break the 11pm curfew (the only "special guest" was Kelly Jones who was already there as part of one of the support acts).

Great theory. Welcome to AMIT, by the way. I can hardly imagine MK writing a brand-new song for a charity project, so it might as well be Money For Nothing.

It would make a lot of sense since it's one of, if not the most famous of Mark's songs, and it will definitely generate a lot of views for this charity.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on April 16, 2023, 11:33:56 AM
Agree on the theory. The project starts to look like other "ongoing" (read: you will never see it) projects, but I guess we will see it some time this year.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on April 16, 2023, 01:10:33 PM
My theory is that the TCT mystery track may be Money for Nothing.

From the information we have so far-

track is written by MK (from Sam fender interview),
recorded in MK's studio and produced by GF,
very important guitarists are featured - MFN is one of the most famous guitar riffs ever
the involvement of Sting (from Sam Fender interview) who is not a famous guitarist but did sing backing vocals on MFN and so may be recreating these


Talking about "very important guitarists" is not the same as "very important guitar riffs"

Very important guitarist are David Gilmour arn't it ?

Add MFN has nothing related to Buddy Holly.

So I bet it won't be MFN but something else.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on April 16, 2023, 01:40:21 PM
Its s good theory with a couple of problems.

1. Money for nothing to promote TCT? What message are you trying to promote with that!

2. There are still plenty of thin skinned individuals who are offended by one word sung in character in that song. I doubt TCT would go near it for that reason.

Perhaps its another famous MK tune?

We shall hopefully find out soon enough.....
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on April 16, 2023, 02:28:58 PM
I think the album will be similar to albums like:
Not Fade Away - Remembering Buddy Holly from 1996.


Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on April 16, 2023, 04:55:06 PM
This is a charity project, not a charity song, that involves many of the greatest guitar players and rock stars, I don't see it as playing old hits of them but something different.

And as far as I remember, the Buddy Holly foundation is linked to this. Guy was asked about this and despite he can't say too much, seems that the songs recorded in this project are from Buddy Holly.

We don't know much about it but the MFN thing doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on April 16, 2023, 04:57:10 PM
This is a charity project, not a charity song, that involves many of the greatest guitar players and rock stars, I don't see it as playing old hits of them but something different.

And as far as I remember, the Buddy Holly foundation is linked to this. Guy was asked about this and despite he can't say too much, seems that the songs recorded in this project are from Buddy Holly.

We don't know much about it but the MFN thing doesn't make any sense.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on April 16, 2023, 08:03:09 PM
Alright, alright, I see that MFN would be weird considering the words used, and it kind of doesn't fit to the TCT :lol But the song is so cool!  :lol I guess I am wishing for a song that I like, not another one of these tributes and contributions that I hardly ever listen to after the few first times (Honorable exeption: the JJ Cale tributes, but then I already loved his songs)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 16, 2023, 09:04:33 PM
It still doesn’t say in Guy’s quote that they are on the same track, just that he recorded them on the same day.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on April 16, 2023, 09:36:24 PM
Sam Fender said they are on the same song penned by MK.
https://virginradio.co.uk/music/75650/bruce-springsteen-is-working-on-a-new-album
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on April 17, 2023, 09:33:46 AM
It still doesn’t say in Guy’s quote that they are on the same track, just that he recorded them on the same day.

The interview behind the link says they are on the same track. That would be the first song with MK and Bruce. Kinda cool i hope
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on April 17, 2023, 02:57:39 PM
It still doesn’t say in Guy’s quote that they are on the same track, just that he recorded them on the same day.

The interview behind the link says they are on the same track. That would be the first song with MK and Bruce. Kinda cool i hope

We don't know much officially about this but as far as we know, Guy is producing the whole thing that is also recorded in full (again as far as we know) at British Grove. I understand that MK must be playing on all songs, but that's why I understand, not what it is.

With this I mean that Bruce and MK could be in the same song (overdubbed) or not, as far as we know.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on April 17, 2023, 05:47:56 PM
I wonder why we only have pictures with Sam Fender, David Gilmour and Sting.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on April 17, 2023, 07:37:37 PM
Unless Bruce is touring Europe,I don't see Bruce coming to England only for a participation.
So most probably it will be like how  Mark and Jeff Healy are on ITILYTM studio take.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 18, 2023, 09:53:29 AM
Unless Bruce is touring Europe,I don't see Bruce coming to England only for a participation.
So most probably it will be like how  Mark and Jeff Healy are on ITILYTM studio take.

Seems most of MK's "collaborations" over the last 20 years or so have been remote overdubs.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on May 11, 2023, 01:00:50 PM
GF:

Its release has been delayed for reasons which will become clear.

It sounds mysterious

Tnanks jbaent:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: border_reiver on May 11, 2023, 06:26:54 PM
From the man who - almost - gave us gems like the Madrid 2001 DVD and the Henrik Hansen documentary.  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on May 11, 2023, 06:32:52 PM
From the man who - almost - gave us gems like the Madrid 2001 DVD and the Henrik Hansen documentary.  ;D

My clue would be they (maybe) want to include the song in the documentary MK is filming right now with Brian Johnson, and so it'll be released this fall.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on May 11, 2023, 09:59:55 PM
Why would MK use the song for this project on the tv show he is doing at the moment with Brian Johnson. Two totaly different things.... it is my believe they interview different artists. Or am i wrong here?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on May 11, 2023, 10:46:33 PM
Never talk about a project until this one is finished  :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on May 12, 2023, 07:16:00 AM
From the man who - almost - gave us gems like the Madrid 2001 DVD and the Henrik Hansen documentary.  ;D

My clue would be they (maybe) want to include the song in the documentary MK is filming right now with Brian Johnson, and so it'll be released this fall.

Which song?

It is not a documentary but a TV series where they both interview different artists and talk about music, I don't see there is room here for MK or Brian introducing any new song of theirs as it is not the focus of the show but the guests.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on May 29, 2023, 04:33:55 PM
GF:

The TCT project is all in hand. Obviously I cannot give out any info. All will be revealed.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on August 14, 2023, 02:14:04 PM
From Guy's forum:
 
Q:Now that MKNews has confirmed that the new MK record would be released in 2024, could we at least have the TCT one in 2023? I think you mentioned it also happened something that delayed it…

A:Nothing delayed it, we just didn’t want to rush it. It will all make sense when you see what it is. Not long now before we announce.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on August 14, 2023, 02:21:40 PM
And I like this answer :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 02:32:29 PM
Is there any substantial official info about this project at all? All I seem to find are some bits and pieces and various artists mentioned. Are we looking at a whole CD? What is it really?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on August 14, 2023, 02:47:11 PM
From Guy's forum:
 
Q:Now that MKNews has confirmed that the new MK record would be released in 2024, could we at least have the TCT one in 2023? I think you mentioned it also happened something that delayed it…

A:Nothing delayed it, we just didn’t want to rush it. It will all make sense when you see what it is. Not long now before we announce.
There is a reason for waiting so long. It will all make sense when we see what it is. A new album and hopefully a concert or 2 next year…. :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on August 14, 2023, 03:57:21 PM
Is there any substantial official info about this project at all? All I seem to find are some bits and pieces and various artists mentioned. Are we looking at a whole CD? What is it really?

Nothing really clear further that those articles with Sam Fender mentioning Sting, Springsteen and various posts in twitter here and there, all mentioned here, and the tiny bits that Guy mentioned at his forum.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 04:31:50 PM
Is there any substantial official info about this project at all? All I seem to find are some bits and pieces and various artists mentioned. Are we looking at a whole CD? What is it really?

Nothing really clear further that those articles with Sam Fender mentioning Sting, Springsteen and various posts in twitter here and there, all mentioned here, and the tiny bits that Guy mentioned at his forum.


OK. I've been feeling like a complete idiot for a while  ;D  The whole thing is just strange, though. Guy says it will make sense when we see the finished "product", but he says a lot of things.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on August 14, 2023, 04:38:25 PM
Just a new album with many well known artists like  EC DG MK Sting and a few more. I expect nothing more than this...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on August 14, 2023, 05:39:45 PM
Actually I think Guy had been about two years already telling news about this project are coming soon, lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on August 14, 2023, 07:46:50 PM
Maybe a show and you have to find a free few days for everyone to set it.

Fingers crossed  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on August 15, 2023, 01:10:58 PM
Guy, he replied to me about the TCT project... may it really be the right time :lol

"Yes! It definitely timely WILL be released on vinyl as well as other mediums. I can tell you that I am producing it and have been working on it for 18 months now. Not long to go. sorry but I cannot say any more just yet. There will be an announcement soon."
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on August 15, 2023, 01:38:43 PM
What is MK's involvement in this project besides doing probably a song or 2 using his studio for the whole album and letting Guy producing the album.??
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on August 15, 2023, 03:09:45 PM
Guy, he replied to me about the TCT project... may it really be the right time :lol

"Yes! It definitely timely WILL be released on vinyl as well as other mediums. I can tell you that I am producing it and have been working on it for 18 months now. Not long to go. sorry but I cannot say any more just yet. There will be an announcement soon."

I can't remember how many times he said "announcement soon" in the last year... Actually I think that more or less one year ago the announcement was already"soon"
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on September 06, 2023, 05:42:17 PM
Ronnie Wood is also contributing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw2iNHGMD2C/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on September 06, 2023, 05:59:34 PM
When will this record be out if they are stil recording???
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on September 06, 2023, 06:18:34 PM
MK
Albert Lee
Eric Clapton
Peter Townsend
Sting
David Gilmour
Sam Fender
Bruce Springsteen
Peter Frampton
Vince Gill
Ronnie Wood
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on September 06, 2023, 08:00:07 PM
... On the same track, as far as I understand? How much time does each one get, 15 seconds? Or all together? Good luck trying to distinguish them  ;D  I would rather have one song to each, or a few of them together, but it's for a good cause and I am not a guitar player so it dosesn't really matter  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on September 06, 2023, 08:20:23 PM
When will this record be out if they are stil recording???

I remember that it was already mixed months ago...how is it possible that they still record?? also on the forum I asked questions about the announcement and he replied that now we're here... or maybe the photo is from a few months ago.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on September 06, 2023, 09:52:17 PM
Who is the Head of this project?
Is it Mark or Guy?
Who put this to life?
Somehow I got lost here
As I remember Guy is producing and MK is only 1 performer of...?
And they mostly record at BG. Some Artists surely only send their contributions in.
I thought it was Mark's project as he is on most pics I saw. Sting, DG, Sam Fender
But now I am not quite sure about that anymore
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on September 07, 2023, 09:56:36 AM
guy seems to be the "producer"
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on September 07, 2023, 10:15:42 AM
But Guy is talking about the track. Is there just 1 song then? I expected an album...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on September 07, 2023, 01:38:00 PM
And they mix one track for so many years? NO. Of course it has to be an album.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on September 07, 2023, 02:50:17 PM
Maybe we've just been seeing so many pictures and hearing so much detail because it's being recorded at BG and Guy is the producer.  It's probably not going to be of as much interest as we had initially thought.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on September 07, 2023, 02:54:05 PM
In mid-August I asked Guy on his forum if there was a vinyl release planned and the answer was yes. So I think it's an album...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on September 07, 2023, 05:01:35 PM
Announcement was coming soon he said 3 weeks ago on his forum........
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on September 07, 2023, 07:06:52 PM
Unless you can predict the unexpected, a project can always be said to be soon released until somethin' else happens  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on September 07, 2023, 07:47:40 PM
Announcement was coming soon he said 3 weeks ago on his forum........

If you check pictures with Sam Fender and Sting from one year ago, he was saying about an announcement soon, lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on September 07, 2023, 09:32:37 PM
even when he published the photo with David Gilmour (in February 2023) he said announcement VERY soon... it's been 7 months...
now he says we're there, let's hope!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on September 09, 2023, 11:19:27 AM
Of course it is an album.
Duration until now: 18 months

A lot of artists
MK involved
Guy Producing and Mixing
Recording at BG

I think MK will play on 1 or 2 songs, the rest will be others
Did they record Covers, old or new songs?
All is going very slow these days. Too slow
But OK, on this project there are a lot of 1A Artists and they all have very little time.
So they have to wait until DG e.g. has a slot available. That takes time
Now they are waiting until Taylor Swift has a slot and they can release the thäng. Finally ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on September 09, 2023, 09:00:39 PM
They are too slow because they talked about.

Another proof that in artistic domain you should not speak about your projects and keep them secret until they are out :think.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on September 11, 2023, 01:14:29 PM
GF:

The project is still growing….

 :o
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 11, 2023, 03:01:23 PM
Buddy Holly recorded That'll Be The Day in 1957 and died in 1959.

This album is taking longer to make than Buddy's entire career!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on September 11, 2023, 09:30:45 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkdKFDWuQtg/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
 

I don't know if anyone follows this instagram page, I see some important details on the TCT project, many photos posted of artists who sign the guitars connected to the project. In particular, in the attached link (photo with Ringo Star dated November 2022) there was a scheduled date for the release...June 2023, too bad it's September and we still don't know anything.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on September 14, 2023, 12:05:44 AM
Can you imagine all artists on one stage? it says...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on September 14, 2023, 06:06:51 AM
Can you imagine all artists on one stage? it says...

I asked Guy last year if there would be any chance of having this project in a RAH concert during the annual TCT shows there at the end of March and he obviously can't answer but left the door open to that so, maybe...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on September 26, 2023, 10:03:01 PM
Guy today:

It will be announced soon but before that I cannot say anything.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on September 26, 2023, 10:34:48 PM
Guy today:

It will be announced soon but before that I cannot say anything.

26th April 2022

To be announced soon.

More than one year ago still to be announced soon, lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 27, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
On the plus side, MK looked pretty good in that picture. :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on September 29, 2023, 10:36:24 PM
Guy today:

It will be announced soon but before that I cannot say anything.

26th April 2022

To be announced soon.

More than one year ago still to be announced soon, lol
At some point i start to lose interest because it is al taking so long......
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on October 03, 2023, 02:06:41 PM
I think it all depends on what your definition of soon is :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on October 03, 2023, 05:54:14 PM
I think it all depends on what your definition of soon is :think
Guy today:

It will be announced soon but before that I cannot say anything.

26th April 2022

To be announced soon.

More than one year ago still to be announced soon, lol
At some point i start to lose interest because it is al taking so long......

For me is a couple of weeks as maximum
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on October 03, 2023, 08:15:46 PM
18 months that says soon...Lol
However, if it comes out this year, it should be announced now for release in December... will the signed guitars go to auction? will everything be connected? I think, so it should be announced well in advance. I HOPE SO!!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on October 17, 2023, 12:18:55 PM
I think they will announce in 2025  ???
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on October 17, 2023, 01:08:35 PM
I've asked Guy several times, always answered quickly and can't say more...the last reply was he wasn't sure about the release date for this year. maybe for an announcement they are waiting for the live box to come out first?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on October 17, 2023, 02:19:27 PM
Could a DS album put this on hold??
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on October 17, 2023, 04:51:15 PM
Unlikely
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: vgonis on November 09, 2023, 10:44:42 PM
Buddy Holly recorded That'll Be The Day in 1957 and died in 1959.

This album is taking longer to make than Buddy's entire career!

 I like this Dusty!  ;D But how about Now and Then? it took nearly 50 years to be made...

But seriously, Buddy Holly had his own band and only 4 channels to record. It is quite hard getting all these famous people on board and even harder finding the spare time in their usually busy schedule  to record them. Hopefully it will be more than a single with all of them swarmed in the tiny grooves of a humongous song  like Let it be or stand by me.

Maybe it is a wild dream, but you don't suppose they had the time, while on the British Grove premises ,  to contribute for the upcoming MK solo album as well.  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on November 22, 2023, 07:25:28 PM
 GF:

"Of course, it’s why the wait has been so long. The TCT announcement will be soon also."

How many times has this been said? Lol


Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on November 22, 2023, 07:31:39 PM
GF:

"Of course, it’s why the wait has been so long. The TCT announcement will be soon also."

How many times has this been said? Lol

We are definitely closer than further  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on December 19, 2023, 08:19:01 AM
"The TCT project will definitely come to fruition in 2024."

Hope it's released on time to have a live gig related during the TCT gigs at the RAH that happens always the last week of March!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 06, 2024, 07:50:05 PM
Next Monday, the TCT announce their annual run of concerts at the RAH.

Guy once answered me about the chance of having a concert related to the record and he answered me something like the dots were being lined, so...

So I hope this Monday the record could be announced together with a concert related to the project.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on January 06, 2024, 07:57:22 PM
 Good news. Thank you jbaent :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 06, 2024, 09:58:57 PM
Good news. Thank you jbaent :)

Don't misunderstand me, these are no news but a guess.

Well, it is news that they announce the gigs for this year on Monday, but the rest is my guess, and my hope.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on January 06, 2024, 10:08:47 PM
Yes I know. It may be that they will not announce the release date of the new album, only TCT.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on January 06, 2024, 10:32:45 PM
Yes I know. It may be that they will not announce the release date of the new album, only TCT.
Good news. Thank you jbaent :)

Don't misunderstand me, these are no news but a guess.

Well, it is news that they announce the gigs for this year on Monday, but the rest is my guess, and my hope.

GF:

"Of course, it’s why the wait has been so long. The TCT announcement will be soon also."



In this answer given by Guy about two months ago he made me think of two very close announcements... I'm hoping for TCT on Monday and the MK album to coincide with the auction at the end of the month... let's hope... I'd be curious what he would say now Guy if the concerts are still connected with the TCT album...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 07, 2024, 07:14:46 PM
They usually announce three or four of the gigs, and then during the remaining of January, they announce the comical night and the remaining of the live gigs.

Last year the Roger Daltry and friends gig was the last to be announced.

I guess they do it that way to avoid everyone buying tickets for different shows could collapse the system.

Let's see what they announce tomorrow morning!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on January 07, 2024, 07:28:03 PM
Where can I see the news?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 07, 2024, 07:29:02 PM
Where can I see the news?

Teenage Cancer Trust twitter (now X) official account.

https://twitter.com/TeenageCancer/status/1743286334939132331?t=hYBt0jRza8FfKJ4Ie4cNDw&s=19
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on January 07, 2024, 07:31:23 PM
Where can I see the news?

Teenage Cancer Trust twitter (now X) official account.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 08, 2024, 09:04:07 AM
This time they released the whole lot of gigs at once.

Nothing related to MK nor the TCT project.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDTg46kXMAAFdNl?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on January 08, 2024, 09:21:58 AM
This whole TCT / Buddy Holly thing as far as Mark's involvement is concerned is just a complete mystery. Will there be concerts? Is it a whole album? Just one track? Why the secrecy? Or – are the TCT and BH projects even connected?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 08, 2024, 09:34:51 AM
As far as I understand, it is produced by Guy, i'm not sure if alone or with someone else, and a large number of artists are involved, I believe that each one would do one song.

About MK involvement, I (we) wish he's playing in all songs but I guess he'll be just another one playing.

And as far as the charity is also called Buddy Holly, it might be songs of him...

Here you have two questions I made to Guy just a year ago that makes me think there would be a gig also:

Q:Hello Guy. I saw in social media that tomorrow the TCT concerts at the RAH are going to be announced, there is going to happen also an announcement of the record? If there is one concert related to the project I hope there is any chance to see MK and you on the stage, please say yes!

A:It’s not for me to say I’m afraid, but there are plans being laid.


AND

Q:Hello Doc. Some days ago I read somewhere that the announcement of the Royal Albert Hall dates for the Teenage Cancer Trust is imminent, and then I read in your forum that we will reading about the TCT release very soon too. Are both things connected? I mean, any of those live gigs is going to be related with the charity record? If so, I would like (I might say we) to see you with MK there even for a few songs!

A:They are connected but all the dots still need to be joined
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on January 08, 2024, 09:52:47 AM
This time they released the whole lot of gigs at once.

Nothing related to MK nor the TCT project.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDTg46kXMAAFdNl?format=jpg&name=medium)

Thanks jbaent for mentioning the TCT announcements to us.
This would have been one of the now very rare possibilities of MK performing live outside of his decision to stop touring.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 08, 2024, 10:00:49 AM
This time they released the whole lot of gigs at once.

Nothing related to MK nor the TCT project.


Thanks jbaent for mentioning the TCT announcements to us.
This would have been one of the now very rare possibilities of MK performing live outside of his decision to stop touring.

Maybe the record is not set to release before those gigs...

Or he's not playing any gig, Guy said this:

Q:Sorry guy that again looking forward to Mark's new album next year . I know he isn't planning to tour but do you think there will be any live work at all even if just a few concerts in the UK or a residency at one venue?

A:I’m not aware of any plans for shows
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on January 08, 2024, 10:10:10 AM
If he was aware he would not say. Because he can not say anything. He never spoke about any upcoming shows that were not officially announced..
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 08, 2024, 11:43:26 AM
It seems to be the same old acts every year at these shows these days.

Good if you are a fan of that Britpop type thing I guess. The Who with Squeeze at the RAH would be a fantastic night to be fair.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on January 11, 2024, 09:01:19 PM
It seems to be the same old acts every year at these shows these days.

Good if you are a fan of that Britpop type thing I guess. The Who with Squeeze at the RAH would be a fantastic night to be fair.

It'll definitely be different next year as Roger Daltrey is stepping down as curator of the gigs.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on January 16, 2024, 09:08:00 PM
There will be a Buddy Holly book coming where the proceeds are going the teenage cancer trust

 
https://www.genesis-publications.com/book/9781905662920/words-of-love
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 16, 2024, 10:08:00 PM
"Words of Love
Buddy Holly
Born out of a conversation with Roger Daltrey, who first conceived the idea of Words of Love back in 2017, Genesis Publications is honoured to publish the definitive celebration of musician, songwriter and rock and roll trailblazer, Buddy Holly.

In partnership with María Elena Holly and the Buddy Holly Educational Foundation, this seminal volume covers Buddy's life, music and enduring legacy, offering an unseen perspective on the man behind the timeless music. This edition is presented as a limited edition boxed set of just 559 copies and features original cover art created specially by Ronnie Wood, with a foreword by María Elena Holly and an introduction by esteemed music critic Greil Marcus. The proceeds will benefit Teenage Cancer Trust and Teen Cancer America.

The book is narrated by over 80 of the world's most influential musicians, such as David Gilmour, Emmylou Harris, Robert Plant, Bruce Springsteen, Pete Townshend and Brian Wilson, explaining what Buddy Holly means to them. Words of Love unravels the complexities of Holly's enduring legacy, from his Texan roots, to his work in the studio and on tour with the Crickets, to his inner creative world and the final months of innovation in New York City that preceded his tragic death.

Words of Love charts the unusual rise of a musical pioneer who defied conventions and changed the course of music history. Buddy's career is presented through a large collection of never-before-seen photography and personal items belonging to Buddy Holly, accompanied by the stories of those close to him, including Marí­a Elena Holly.
THE AMBASSADORS & HONOURED FRIENDS image 1
••••••••••
THE AMBASSADORS & HONOURED FRIENDS
WORDS OF LOVE
'His persona, his songs, his guitar playing, and those awesome harmonies still resonate with me today.' - Brian May

Participating in Words of Love are over 80 iconic musicians welcomed as ambassadors of the Buddy Holly Educational Foundation over the course of the last decade. This book has been in the works for six of those years, and throughout this time, many ambassadors have contributed to this project. Words of Love includes contributions from Crickets Jerry 'JI' Allison and Sonny Curtis and friends of Buddy, Paul Anka, Dion, Duane Eddy and Don Everly. An incredible roll call of some of the world's most famous musicians are taking part, including Eric Clapton, Dave Grohl, Emmylou Harris, Brian May, Van Morrison, Dolly Parton, Robert Plant, Keith Richards, Ed Sheeran, Bruce Springsteen, Sting, Pete Townshend, among many more - all of whom cite Buddy Holly as a central influence on their own incredible careers.
 
Illustrating their text, each contributor has provided a handwritten dedication to Buddy, their own 'words of love', and each is pictured today with a unique guitar gifted to them by the Buddy Holly Educational Foundation - a replica of Buddy's own 1943 Gibson J45. This special guitar is gifted to ambassadors in recognition of their work supporting the Foundation, including this project, each named after a song Buddy either recorded, performed or demo'd. Each instrument features a leather cover, hand-tooled in tribute to the one Buddy made himself, inspired by the legendary Hank Williams, and of course, Elvis Presley. The ambassadors write, record and perform with these bespoke instruments and by doing so keep the memory of Buddy alive. "

Let's see if the record has that same name...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 08:47:54 AM
That is the project, yes. Well done! Where did you find this?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2024, 08:48:40 AM
That is the project, yes. Well done! Where did you find this?

Three posts above ;)

There will be a Buddy Holly book coming where the proceeds are going the teenage cancer trust

 
https://www.genesis-publications.com/book/9781905662920/words-of-love

However, MK is not mentioned at all regarding this book, but I bet this is linked with the music project.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 08:51:26 AM
MK is on the list of names on the picture i see
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 08:52:44 AM
Here
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 08:54:36 AM
But indeed, i thought they recorded an album as well.. or are they just narrating a book?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2024, 08:55:24 AM
MK is on the list of names on the picture i see

Yes, endorses of the charity.

But he's not mentioned regarding the book, and many famous and less famous names than MK are mentioned...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 17, 2024, 09:05:19 AM
But indeed, i thought they recorded an album as well.. or are they just narrating a book?

That was my fear but pretty sure Sam Fender said he recorded a song.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 09:14:28 AM
Yeah, Look at the opening post of this thread (2 years ago)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 09:30:43 AM
September 2024 seems to be the release of the book.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2024, 03:34:59 PM
Looks like the TCT project would be announced in February and launched in March with a private event
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2024, 03:47:03 PM
Information in this new lot for Christie's auction:

https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-6468873?ldp_breadcrumb=back&intobjectid=6468873&from=salessummary&lid=1
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 04:40:28 PM
Does that mean this guitar is also part of the exhibition next week?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2024, 05:05:13 PM
Does that mean this guitar is also part of the exhibition next week?

It's the lot 123, I guess so.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on January 17, 2024, 07:11:48 PM
We finally know when it comes out...thanks to cristie's, a lot of information is coming from them.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2024, 07:17:12 PM
We finally know when it comes out...thanks to cristie's, a lot of information is coming from them.

No.

Se.know.when they are going to announced It!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on January 17, 2024, 07:34:38 PM
https://www.goldradiouk.com/news/music/who-roger-daltrey-singing-career-end/

https://www.goldradiouk.com/news/music/teenage-cancer-trust-2024-lineup-the-who-roger-daltrey-step-down/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on January 17, 2024, 07:35:38 PM
We finally know when it comes out...thanks to cristie's, a lot of information is coming from them.

No.

Se.know.when they are going to announced It!

yes, sorry, I correct myself,
We finally know when it will be announced
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on January 18, 2024, 03:35:46 PM
GIBSON GUITAR CORPORATION, NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, 2021
A SOLID-BODY ELECTRIC GUITAR, LES PAUL STANDARD 'GOLD TOP'

This multi-signed Gibson Les Paul 'Gold Top' guitar betokens a highly anticipated collaboration project - spearheaded by Mark Knopfler - featuring many of the world's most iconic guitarists, to be announced in February 2024. This auction represents a rare opportunity to acquire a memento of this symbiotic moment in music history before details of the collaboration project are released to the general public.

The sale of this guitar will be accompanied by two tickets to the exclusive UK VIP launch event on 2 March 2024, with full details to be provided to the buyer following the auction.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on January 18, 2024, 08:00:27 PM
I was looking at the signatures on the goldtop that has just been added to the auction. It looks like MK has signed the pick guard with Mark Knopfler going home?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on January 18, 2024, 08:02:34 PM
Yes, saw that too. I wonder why
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: border_reiver on January 18, 2024, 08:17:47 PM
Retirement after all the commotion with auction, album and collaborations? :-\
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Billy’s Tune on January 18, 2024, 11:59:33 PM
That’s shaky, old person writing.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 19, 2024, 08:25:51 AM
I wonder why Ringo signed it? he is not known for his guitar playing :think I get he must be a big fan of Buddy Holly though, maybe he is playing drums on the album? or Mark's song? I would have expected to see Paul McCartney sign it though.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on January 19, 2024, 09:41:00 AM
I wonder why Ringo signed it? he is not known for his guitar playing :think I get he must be a big fan of Buddy Holly though, maybe he is playing drums on the album? or Mark's song? I would have expected to see Paul McCartney sign it though.

Yeadh, someone has to play drums, lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on February 01, 2024, 11:45:49 AM
Didn't the auctioneer say we'd get information about this project this month just before bidding commenced?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 01, 2024, 12:08:29 PM
Didn't the auctioneer say we'd get information about this project this month just before bidding commenced?

The winner of the TCT signed guitar also got two tickets for a private event on early March (I think the 2nd or 3rd), something like a launch event, but yes, they said it would be announced in February, so any day now.

If the event is on first weekend of March, I guess they would announce it maybe 15 days before?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on February 01, 2024, 12:17:57 PM
Didn't the auctioneer say we'd get information about this project this month just before bidding commenced?

The winner of the TCT signed guitar also got two tickets for a private event on early March (I think the 2nd or 3rd), something like a launch event, but yes, they said it would be announced in February, so any day now.

If the event is on first weekend of March, I guess they would announce it maybe 15 days before?

The sale of this guitar will be accompanied by two tickets to the exclusive UK VIP launch event on 1 March 2024.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on February 01, 2024, 12:34:25 PM
So.... sooooon
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: holaknopfler on February 01, 2024, 12:55:38 PM
Didn't the auctioneer say we'd get information about this project this month just before bidding commenced?

The winner of the TCT signed guitar also got two tickets for a private event on early March (I think the 2nd or 3rd), something like a launch event, but yes, they said it would be announced in February, so any day now.

If the event is on first weekend of March, I guess they would announce it maybe 15 days before?

The sale of this guitar will be accompanied by two tickets to the exclusive UK VIP launch event on 1 March 2024.

That’s good news!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on February 02, 2024, 07:42:52 PM
I wonder why Ringo signed it? he is not known for his guitar playing :think I get he must be a big fan of Buddy Holly though, maybe he is playing drums on the album? or Mark's song? I would have expected to see Paul McCartney sign it though.

Yeadh, someone has to play drums, lol

Some would day he’s not known for his drumming either….i don’t have a problem with his drumming though
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 02, 2024, 08:50:10 PM
I wonder why Ringo signed it? he is not known for his guitar playing :think I get he must be a big fan of Buddy Holly though, maybe he is playing drums on the album? or Mark's song? I would have expected to see Paul McCartney sign it though.

Yeadh, someone has to play drums, lol

Some would day he’s not known for his drumming either….i don’t have a problem with his drumming though

Ringo plays in a particluar way, as he is left handed and plays on a right handed kit. So most of his fills are "reversed"

https://youtu.be/vl9188EPdLI

https://youtu.be/98_gMcma9hY


Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 02, 2024, 11:05:52 PM
I wonder why Ringo signed it? he is not known for his guitar playing :think I get he must be a big fan of Buddy Holly though, maybe he is playing drums on the album? or Mark's song? I would have expected to see Paul McCartney sign it though.

Yeadh, someone has to play drums, lol

Some would day he’s not known for his drumming either….i don’t have a problem with his drumming though

Ringo plays in a particluar way, as he is left handed and plays on a right handed kit. So most of his fills are "reversed"

https://youtu.be/vl9188EPdLI

https://youtu.be/98_gMcma9hY

Haha! Ringo is awesome. His signature will look in place on anything. I watched his masterclass on masterclass.com and it was one of the worst masterclasses I have ever seen, he's a disaster of a teacher. He is a great drummer though and his vibe is unmatched. I think guys like this make the best drummers — funny and laid-back. It's vibe over chops, and lots of peace and love.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 02, 2024, 11:35:01 PM
Just about every drummer of note hails Ringo as of the greatest ever. Seems to me that anyone who doesn’t rate him really doesn’t have a clue.

It was fantastic to see him in Get Back. He would sit patiently for ages while the others noodled and came up with stuff, then come right in with the perfect drum part. Every single time.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 03, 2024, 12:09:32 AM
Just about every drummer of note hails Ringo as of the greatest ever. Seems to me that anyone who doesn’t rate him really doesn’t have a clue.

It was fantastic to see him in Get Back. He would sit patiently for ages while the others noodled and came up with stuff, then come right in with the perfect drum part. Every single time.

Absolutely. People who say bad things about this guy, or recite the famous "Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles" joke have no clue whatsoever. But it's kinda obvious where the confusion comes from as well. His lines sound simple for the general public, but more importantly, he's got three butts of the giant singer-songwriters playing in front of him and getting all the attention (he often talks about this himself).

But if you dig in and compare his playing to all The Beatles drummers we have recordings of — Pete Best, Andy White, and Jimmie Nicol — Ringo puts them all to shame, and then some. And the story of how he made it to the band is interesting and dramatic. Just everything about Ringo is cool and interesting, and yes, on top of that, he's highly professional and creative as well. One of the greatest, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 03, 2024, 11:45:52 AM
Today it's the anniversary of Buddy Holly dead, it would be a great day to announce the record.
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Post by: JF on February 03, 2024, 11:52:09 AM
Just about every drummer of note hails Ringo as of the greatest ever. Seems to me that anyone who doesn’t rate him really doesn’t have a clue.

It was fantastic to see him in Get Back. He would sit patiently for ages while the others noodled and came up with stuff, then come right in with the perfect drum part. Every single time.

+1000 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 03, 2024, 11:53:01 AM
Absolutely. People who say bad things about this guy, or recite the famous "Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles" joke have no clue whatsoever. But it's kinda obvious where the confusion comes from as well. His lines sound simple for the general public, but more importantly, he's got three butts of the giant singer-songwriters playing in front of him and getting all the attention (he often talks about this himself).

But if you dig in and compare his playing to all The Beatles drummers we have recordings of — Pete Best, Andy White, and Jimmie Nicol — Ringo puts them all to shame, and then some. And the story of how he made it to the band is interesting and dramatic. Just everything about Ringo is cool and interesting, and yes, on top of that, he's highly professional and creative as well. One of the greatest, no doubt about it.

exactly :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 03, 2024, 12:00:56 PM
Today it's the anniversary of Buddy Holly dead, it would be a great day to announce the record.

The day the music died!!

What a huge influence he has had on so many people, and considering he died at 22 that is amazing. :clap You just imagine what he would have gone on to you, Mark even could have gone on to play with him.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 03, 2024, 02:39:30 PM
Today it's the anniversary of Buddy Holly dead, it would be a great day to announce the record.

The day the music died!!

What a huge influence he has had on so many people, and considering he died at 22 that is amazing. :clap You just imagine what he would have gone on to you, Mark even could have gone on to play with him.

He was influencial because it was NEW.

But after a few years  he would probably have become a legend from the glory days of Rock 'N' Roll as it happened to most of the stars of the 50's.

Look what happened to Chuck Berry and  Jerry Lee Lewis.
Look what happened to Elvis.

The 60's belongs to The Beatles and Bob Dylan.
The 70's went some other directions and that is life of the popular music.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 03, 2024, 10:38:13 PM
Maybe, maybe not. The main strength of Buddy was his songwriting. Elvis and Jerry Lee relied on others for material (although Elvis wasn’t exactly unpopular and Jerry Lee transitioned into a huge country star). Chuck Berry was a fantastic songwriter but was kind of the architect of his own downfall with a massive chip on his shoulder.

So it’s possible Buddy could have been a success and moved with the times. Look at Paul Simon. Everly clone, Brill Building songwriter, folkie, folk rocker, singer songwriter, 80s globe trotting pop star.

Who knows.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 04, 2024, 08:40:17 PM
I can't think of any Rock N Roll songwriter that kept getting success over that era.

Ironicaly Chuck Berry was among the last ones with original material being successful until the mid sixties.

Irony again : in 1972, Elvis Presley "almost" topped one last time the rock oriented chart with "Burning Love" [not written for him but who remember that it was first recorded by legendary Arthur Alexander?]
Yes irony because the one who prevented him to reach the number one slot was Chuck Berry 's cover of My Ding-a-Ling.

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGQytB3wQMs
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 04, 2024, 10:06:35 PM
I’m not sure what you class as success.

Elvis was still one of the biggest stars in the world and Jerry Lee was having number one US country singles.

Just because they weren’t as big on the pop charts as they were 20 years previously doesn’t mean they weren’t still successful. Anyway, we are straying from the point, my point was that Buddy was almost unique in that era in writing his own songs, so he could well have continued to do so.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on February 06, 2024, 04:18:05 PM
Guy is saying there is good chance he will put out a diary of this project. Also good news  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 06, 2024, 04:29:05 PM
Guy is saying there is good chance he will put out a diary of this project. Also good news  :thumbsup

Diary coming very soon.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 08:36:12 AM
The news is out:

https://www.irishnews.com/entertainment/dire-straits-star-knopfler-unites-world-guitar-heroes-for-charity-record-DRCK2WTFWRMANGVDJ76D4PAHWU/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on February 08, 2024, 08:42:42 AM
Huge story in The Times today.


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From Ringo to Ronnie, the 54 rock gods on Mark Knopfler’s new song
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The Dire Straits man has assembled Guitar Heroes, arguably the greatest supergroup yet, in the name of fighting cancer. How many can you name?

Bruce Springsteen, Nile Rodgers, Ronnie Wood, Joan Armatrading and Brian May are just some of the guitarists squeezed into the nine-minute instrumental. The rest are below
Bruce Springsteen, Nile Rodgers, Ronnie Wood, Joan Armatrading and Brian May are just some of the guitarists squeezed into the nine-minute instrumental. The rest are below
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Thursday February 08 2024, 6.47am GMT, The Times
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There is a Beatle on drums, the Who’s singer on harmonica, Sting on bass and nearly every one of the world’s greatest living rock guitarists strumming along. Welcome to the supergroup Mark Knopfler’s Guitar Heroes.

An unprecedented line-up of guitarists including David Gilmour, Eric Clapton and Bruce Springsteen has been assembled to record a new version of Mark Knopfler’s Going Home (Theme of the Local Hero).

The nine-minute instrumental even begins with the final recording of the late Jeff Beck.

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Beck is joined by the Rolling Stone Ronnie Wood, Slash from Guns N’ Roses, Brian May from Queen and dozens of others for the track, which is being released to raise money for Teenage Cancer Trust and the British charity’s American equivalent.

“I think what we’ve had is an embarrassment of riches really,” Knopfler said.

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Others in the all-star line up include Pete Townshend, Ry Cooder, Sheryl Crow, Sam Fender, Nile Rodgers and Joan Armatrading, while Ringo Starr, the Beatles drummer, alternates with his son Zak Starkey on drums. Roger Daltrey, the Who’s lead singer, is on harmonica.

The recording was knitted together by Guy Fletcher, Knopfler’s long-time collaborator, who edited live sessions in a London recording studio together with contributions sent from around the world.

Mark Knopfler’s Guitar Heroes lured Sir Peter Blake into replicating his iconic 1967 album cover for the Beatles’ Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band for a new artwork featuring all the contributors.



The original song was composed by Knopfler, the Dire Straits guitarist, for the 1983 film Local Hero starring Burt Lancaster and Peter Capaldi and which earned the musician a Bafta nomination.


Knopfler said on Wednesday that he wanted to thank all the musicians for their “sterling response”.

“I really had no idea that it was going to be like this,” the 74-year-old said.

Knopfler added that he and Fletcher realised they would have “to extend this piece somehow, to take in the number of people who joined in”. He said Townshend — who along with his Who bandmate Daltrey, the honorary patron of Teenage Cancer Trust, is a co-founder of Teen Cancer America — had been one of the first on board.

“Before I knew where I was, Pete Townshend had come into my studio armed with a guitar and an amp,” Knopfler said.

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“And that first Pete power chord … man, I tell you. We were in that territory, and it was just fantastic.

“And it went on from there. Eric [Clapton] came in, played great, just one tasty lick after another. Then Jeff Beck’s contribution arrived and that was spellbinding.

“I think what we’ve had is an embarrassment of riches, really. The whole thing was a high point.”

Going Home, written by Knopfler in the early Eighties, is a soaring instrumental track played before matches at Newcastle United’s St James’ Park
Going Home, written by Knopfler in the early Eighties, is a soaring instrumental track played before matches at Newcastle United’s St James’ Park
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While there have been supergroups before such as the Traveling Wilburys — which featured Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, Roy Orbison and Tom Petty — there does not appear to have been one with such a stellar line-up of guitarists.

The 1984 Band Aid line-up rivals it in star power but its cast was mainly made up of singers, such as Bono, George Michael and Paul Weller, alongside a small group of instrumentalists.

• The 20 greatest guitarists of all time

Another contender for the world’s greatest supergroup could be the band assembled at Madison Square Gardens in 1992 for a Bob Dylan 30th anniversary celebration.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on February 08, 2024, 08:44:23 AM
Sorry about the formatting above - The Times doesn’t make it easy to copy’n’paste. And you’re missing lots of good photos, not least the cover art. Rest assured this rates just below royal illnesses in today’s paper.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 08:47:53 AM
Can't believe that the WHOLE project that took around TWO YEARS is just ONE SONG, that we all know, like GOING HOME!!!!!

It doesn't matter that is 9 minutes long and all those musicians played it, this is the biggest dissapoinment ever.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 08:55:26 AM
(https://static.fnac-static.com/multimedia/Images/FR/NR/9a/29/02/16918938/1507-1/tsp20240206155050/Going-Home-Theme-From-Local-Hero.jpg)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 09:02:45 AM
Eh, what’s Going Home got to do with Buddy Holly?!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on February 08, 2024, 09:09:40 AM
When I first read the news I felt elated, but since then realisation and disappointment has set in.    :-\
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 09:12:20 AM
Eh, what’s Going Home got to do with Buddy Holly?!

In the end, just that the American branch of the Charity has his name.

As Guy didn't say it hadn't anything to do with Buddy Holly, we thought it was related.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on February 08, 2024, 09:13:45 AM
Wow fantastic Going Home played by all the greats! Actually a bit disappointed, just one song...
Now let me explain MK's autograph on the guitar with the addition Going Home!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 09:17:27 AM
https://markknopflersguitarheroes.tmstor.es/

You can even order a deluxe version with a bluray including a mighty Atmos version.

WOW

A landmark in rock music history, this new, very special recording of Mark Knopfler’s anthemic ‘Going Home (Theme From Local Hero)’ has been recorded to raise funds for Teenage Cancer Trust and Teen Cancer America.

Performed by Mark Knopfler’s Guitar Heroes and produced by Knopfler’s longtime collaborator Guy Fletcher, the track features an unprecedented line-up of some of the greatest guitarists and musicians in history.

Full list of contributors:

Joan Armatrading, Jeff Beck, Richard Bennett, Joe Bonamassa, Joe Brown, James Burton, Jonathan Cain, Paul Carrack, Eric Clapton, Ry Cooder, Jim Cox, Steve Cropper, Sheryl Crow, Danny Cummings, Roger Daltrey, Duane Eddy, Sam Fender, Guy Fletcher, Peter Frampton, Audley Freed, Vince Gill, David Gilmour, Buddy Guy, Keiji Haino, Tony Iommi, Joan Jett, John Jorgenson, Mark Knopfler, Sonny Landreth, Albert Lee, Greg Leisz, Alex Lifeson, Steve Lukather, Phil Manzanera, Dave Mason, Hank Marvin, Brian May, Robbie McIntosh, John McLaughlin, Tom Morello, Rick Nielsen, Orianthi, Brad Paisley, Nile Rodgers, Mike Rutherford, Joe Satriani, John Sebastian, Connor Selby, Slash, Bruce Springsteen, Ringo Starr and Zak Starkey, Sting, Andy Taylor, Susan Tedeschi and Derek Trucks, Ian Thomas, Pete Townshend, Keith Urban, Steve Vai, Waddy Wachtel, Joe Louis Walker, Joe Walsh, Ronnie Wood, Glenn Worf, Zucchero.

ALL OF THEM IN JUST ONE TRACK!!!

A minimum of 50% of net proceeds received by BMG Rights Management (UK) Limited from the sale of this recording (with a minimum of £1 per CD single solely embodying the recording sold in the UK and a minimum of 25p per download of the recording sold in the UK) will be given to Teenage Cancer Trust (registered charity in England and Wales under charity no. 1062559) which shall be shared equally with Teen Cancer America (501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization tax id 46-0825676).


Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on February 08, 2024, 09:29:26 AM
I don’t understand the disappointment. It’s a great song - a really great song - and it’s going to be a nine minute version featuring many of the biggest names in world rock playing on our hero’s music. What’s not to like? After all we’re about to get 21 new songs from him.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 09:38:22 AM
I don’t understand the disappointment. It’s a great song - a really great song - and it’s going to be a nine minute version featuring many of the biggest names in world rock playing on our hero’s music. What’s not to like? After all we’re about to get 21 new songs from him.

Yes, it's a dream comes true!

Slash, Joe Satriani and Steve Vai playing "Going Home"!

I've been dreaming about that all my life, literally.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 09:40:10 AM
And you could have it in so many formats, a vinyl with one etched side, a cd, even a deluxe version with a bluray Atmos version.

I'm seriously considering to not order new MK record and concentrate in this wonderful thing:

(https://imagedelivery.net/7yy6dErF9hbNfcqoZCcxBA/fd8d1397-c9d9-4b42-177c-72eb74186c00/public)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Maxx on February 08, 2024, 09:43:36 AM
I'm thrilled. It shines some well deserved light on MK, Local Hero and the song itself. Also, this is possibly the last big super group thing with the greats.

It will be interesting to hear how they managed to put all those players into one tune.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 09:45:19 AM
I'm thrilled. It shines some well deserved light on MK, Local Hero and the song itself. Also, this is possibly the last big super group thing with the greats.

It will be interesting to hear how they managed to put all those players into one tune.

I Guy's home site there are 15 seconds of it.

I truly hope that the paper inside the different formats says who's playing when...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 09:57:02 AM
Eh, what’s Going Home got to do with Buddy Holly?!

In the end, just that the American branch of the Charity has his name.

As Guy didn't say it hadn't anything to do with Buddy Holly, we thought it was related.

I'm just confused, when did Buddy Holly's name come up in all of this?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 10:09:13 AM
The positives:

We know it's a great tune

It's for a fantastic cause

Will be fun picking people out ("Hey, that's Waddy Wachtel!")

The cover is fun - is it Peter Blake? Funny seeing MK next to Slash, lolz.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: schmonka on February 08, 2024, 10:29:48 AM
There is no doubt its a stellar lineup, but one song....a nine minute extended version of Going Home.....Ive got to say this is a bit of an anticlimax (after 2 years) and just kind of a bit meh... :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: marki on February 08, 2024, 10:30:49 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Smd7R6IhWyo&t=8s&ab_channel=MarkKnopfler&fbclid=IwAR1sXPTFsDBiYZ73qmkx_yRe0bisMt2E_5omSZ7L-NHFTaWOsNkRx-3g0eo
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 08, 2024, 10:32:45 AM
And you could have it in so many formats, a vinyl with one etched side, a cd, even a deluxe version with a bluray Atmos version.

I'm seriously considering to not order new MK record and concentrate in this wonderful thing:

(https://imagedelivery.net/7yy6dErF9hbNfcqoZCcxBA/fd8d1397-c9d9-4b42-177c-72eb74186c00/public)

C'mon, you sound like a spoiled child on Christmas. If you don't like it - let it pass.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 08, 2024, 10:41:19 AM
Guy was speaking of "THE" track all the time lately. It's also unfair to say this would steal precious life time from MK or his own projects. It's obviously Guy who had the most work with it. We've got a great fabulous Live Box and a new album comes out with 19 new tracks. Not too bad from my point of view. This one here is extra.

LE

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on February 08, 2024, 10:41:45 AM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on February 08, 2024, 10:43:12 AM
I'm feeling a lot more positive now, especially because of the good cause and it is a really great tune, it was just that I expected something more Buddy Holly related. 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Barzofarhyme on February 08, 2024, 10:52:16 AM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

or maybe Derek Trucks  :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on February 08, 2024, 11:03:07 AM
I don’t understand the disappointment. It’s a great song - a really great song - and it’s going to be a nine minute version featuring many of the biggest names in world rock playing on our hero’s music. What’s not to like? After all we’re about to get 21 new songs from him.

Yes, it's a dream comes true!

Slash, Joe Satriani and Steve Vai playing "Going Home"!

I've been dreaming about that all my life, literally.

I think you need to take a deep breath because you are coming across as a right plonker.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 11:12:07 AM
And you could have it in so many formats, a vinyl with one etched side, a cd, even a deluxe version with a bluray Atmos version.

I'm seriously considering to not order new MK record and concentrate in this wonderful thing:

(https://imagedelivery.net/7yy6dErF9hbNfcqoZCcxBA/fd8d1397-c9d9-4b42-177c-72eb74186c00/public)

C'mon, you sound like a spoiled child on Christmas. If you don't like it - let it pass.

LE

In the contrary, I'm so amazed that I pre-ordered that bundle!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 11:14:02 AM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

or maybe Derek Trucks  :think

Listening to the small 15 second snippet, there are two guitar players doing his thing, and honextly I couldn't bet who are they...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 11:15:33 AM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

or maybe Derek Trucks  :think

Listening to the small 15 second snippet, there are two guitar players doing his thing, and honextly I couldn't bet who are they...

First thought was MK on the LP playing the main tune and Albert Lee with the noodle.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 11:21:22 AM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

or maybe Derek Trucks  :think

Listening to the small 15 second snippet, there are two guitar players doing his thing, and honextly I couldn't bet who are they...

First thought was MK on the LP playing the main tune and Albert Lee with the noodle.

Yes, it's MK at the LP playing the main theme, but there are two small solos after played by I can't say who
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: border_reiver on February 08, 2024, 11:52:40 AM
Whoooo Sonny Landreth! ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on February 08, 2024, 12:01:13 PM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

Ry Cooder
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on February 08, 2024, 12:03:10 PM
I wasn't aware that Ringo Starr was a guitar hero.   :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on February 08, 2024, 12:04:23 PM
Guy was speaking of "THE" track all the time lately. It's also unfair to say this would steal precious life time from MK or his own projects. It's obviously Guy who had the most work with it. We've got a great fabulous Live Box and a new album comes out with 19 new tracks. Not too bad from my point of view. This one here is extra.

LE

 :clap
Sure. It was a bit of a disappointment. I expected a whole album too. With all those names doing a few tracks.
But I never expected Mark playing on all or Guy producing 12 songs or more.
A new tune would have been Killer but hey... this List is extraordinary. Totally blew me.
Nearly no one missing of my heroes.
The tune is known, the artist are Killer, they want to raise money with it, so... buy it!!!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 12:07:51 PM
https://www.denmarkstreetonline.co.uk/

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMQS6le0pJYaS6JAwrb6u6TYo1Ff0FlVMmRsTYp=s680-w680-h510)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: border_reiver on February 08, 2024, 12:08:10 PM
Can't believe that the WHOLE project that took around TWO YEARS is just ONE SONG, that we all know, like GOING HOME!!!!!

It doesn't matter that is 9 minutes long and all those musicians played it, this is the biggest dissapoinment ever.

LOL

WORD!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on February 08, 2024, 12:08:23 PM
Looking forward to this release! I really hope this single will be a big succes and will raise a lot of money for the charity!!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Barzofarhyme on February 08, 2024, 12:09:28 PM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

or maybe Derek Trucks  :think

Listening to the small 15 second snippet, there are two guitar players doing his thing, and honextly I couldn't bet who are they...

First thought was MK on the LP playing the main tune and Albert Lee with the noodle.

Hi Dusty.
Don't seem to be able to find the 15 second snippet,me being dumb i guess   :smack Where did you find it please?  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 12:15:42 PM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

or maybe Derek Trucks  :think

Listening to the small 15 second snippet, there are two guitar players doing his thing, and honextly I couldn't bet who are they...

First thought was MK on the LP playing the main tune and Albert Lee with the noodle.

Hi Dusty.
Don't seem to be able to find the 15 second snippet,me being dumb i guess   :smack Where did you find it please?  :)

In all MK & DS social media posts, also on Guy's site at the main page.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on February 08, 2024, 12:22:14 PM
That’s Eric Clapton playing that lick at 0:13 for sure.

As for the project, I was expecting an album so of course it ended up being a huge letdown but looking on the bright side it’s going to be a great 9 minutes.

And let’s be honest here, it’s on Guy. I love his work, commitment and enthusiasm but he surely dropped the ball in terms of building up expectations. I’m sure everyone here would be happy if he’d made it clear it wasn’t gonna be a full album.

Again, unlike many people I do appreciate his efforts, he’s a genius engineer.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 12:30:49 PM
Eh, what’s Going Home got to do with Buddy Holly?!

In the end, just that the American branch of the Charity has his name.

As Guy didn't say it hadn't anything to do with Buddy Holly, we thought it was related.

I'm just confused, when did Buddy Holly's name come up in all of this?

It was because of this question/answer in Guy's forum:

Q:Hello Doc. As you would imagine, fans are quite curious about this charity project, that “every great living guitar player” sentende really fire up people’s expectation, and we started to imagine which other names apart on what you mentioned could be involved, our wild guess goes with names like David Gilmour, Peter Frampton and alikes, are our guess good? Also the information about the Buddy Holly fundation… Does it means these are going to be Holly’s songs sung and played by those artists?

A:Your guesses are good. Info on this exciting project very soon.


That "guesses are good" in plural made many of us think the project was about Holly's songs played by that big numbers of guitar players. Also that was a whole record.

I know he can't tell what those projects are but, maybe he could had told that it wasn't related to Buddy Holly? That's not really telling.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 08, 2024, 12:36:25 PM
It will hard to recognize who is who except the easy ones like Sonny Landreth on slide guitar… :hmm

or maybe Derek Trucks  :think

Listening to the small 15 second snippet, there are two guitar players doing his thing, and honextly I couldn't bet who are they...

First thought was MK on the LP playing the main tune and Albert Lee with the noodle.

Yes, it's MK at the LP playing the main theme, but there are two small solos after played by I can't say who

I'd say that the very last lick is EC
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 08, 2024, 12:37:32 PM
Hi Dusty.
Don't seem to be able to find the 15 second snippet,me being dumb i guess   :smack Where did you find it please?  :)

https://youtu.be/Smd7R6IhWyo
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 08, 2024, 12:38:02 PM
That’s Eric Clapton playing that lick at 0:13 for sure.

yes I agree
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 08, 2024, 12:41:13 PM
I don't think anyone expected it to be just one song. But I'm happy because it's a MK classic and the lineup is really impressive:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on February 08, 2024, 12:48:29 PM
Honestly, this had so much potential but it's just a huge disappointment.

And who on earth is going to buy a deluxe box of a 9 minute track?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on February 08, 2024, 12:51:58 PM
Honestly, this had so much potential but it's just a huge disappointment.

And who on earth is going to buy a deluxe box of a 9 minute track?

Perhaps people who want to give something to a worthy charity whilst receiving something collectable and memorable in return?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: K-alberto on February 08, 2024, 12:54:13 PM
I understand if someone feels disappointed, because we always thought of an album.

But it's WE. Just look this whole project from outside, it's a great milestone in the history of rock guitar, some kind of "We are the world" sung by dozens of six-chords-maestros, nothing that has EVER happened before.

I also add - apart from the noble cause - it is Mark Knopfler personale, and REAL, Hall of Fame prize. Well deserved, MK!! 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on February 08, 2024, 12:55:47 PM
Honestly, this had so much potential but it's just a huge disappointment.

And who on earth is going to buy a deluxe box of a 9 minute track?

Perhaps people who want to give something to a worthy charity whilst receiving something collectable and memorable in return?


Exactly so.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on February 08, 2024, 12:58:41 PM
I understand if someone feels disappointed, because we always thought of an album.

But it's WE. Just look this whole project from outside, it's a great milestone in the history of rock guitar, some kind of "We are the world" sung by dozens of six-chords-maestros, nothing that has EVER happened before.

I also add - apart from the noble cause - it is Mark Knopfler personale, and REAL, Hall of Fame prize. Well deserved, MK!!
it's GF's fault. He trolled us all again.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Birdy1 on February 08, 2024, 01:39:14 PM
Wow, so much hate thrown at my husband. I hope the rest of the AMT people enjoy the new track, and as another poster pointed out, for a very worthy cause.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 01:42:10 PM
Most interesting thing that MK talked with Ken Bruce today in "Greatest Hits Radio" is that he talked with Jeff Beck about doing a record together. Sad that's impossible now, at least he put some of his magic in Going Home.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 01:43:47 PM
Wow, so much hate thrown at my husband. I hope the rest of the AMT people enjoy the new track, and as another poster pointed out, for a very worthy cause.

No hate at all, just dissapoinment, as it's not your husband's fault but ours because we had expectations different to reality.

And yes, it's for a very worthy case, I already preordered the bundle with all the versions of it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on February 08, 2024, 01:49:18 PM
Wow, so much hate thrown at my husband. I hope the rest of the AMT people enjoy the new track, and as another poster pointed out, for a very worthy cause.

So is Birdy1 Mrs Fletcher?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 08, 2024, 01:52:48 PM
How can anyone be disappointed with this :hmm Mark is our (Local) hero, his name has attracted the most wonderful list of guitar players on the planet, and Sting on bass, and Ringo on drums, fantastic, the only one omission I see is Tommy Emmanuel (and Mike Oldfield for me) but, I am looking forward to hearing what the shredders can do with this classic track, I never, ever thought I would hear Vai, Satriani, Oriani on a Mark Knopfler track.
This must be the year of Mark Knoplfer, what with this, the new solo album, the auction, the TV show, only the knighthood left :clap It just shows the respect he has out there.

As for Guy Fletcher. Good on you son.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on February 08, 2024, 01:53:01 PM
Wow, so much hate thrown at my husband. I hope the rest of the AMT people enjoy the new track, and as another poster pointed out, for a very worthy cause.

So is Birdy1 Mrs Fletcher?
that supposed to be ironic?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 01:55:51 PM
I understand if someone feels disappointed, because we always thought of an album.

But it's WE. Just look this whole project from outside, it's a great milestone in the history of rock guitar, some kind of "We are the world" sung by dozens of six-chords-maestros, nothing that has EVER happened before.

I also add - apart from the noble cause - it is Mark Knopfler personale, and REAL, Hall of Fame prize. Well deserved, MK!!
it's GF's fault. He trolled us all again.

Did Guy ever say anything misleading, or have we all made assumptions?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on February 08, 2024, 01:56:18 PM
Wow, so much hate thrown at my husband. I hope the rest of the AMT people enjoy the new track, and as another poster pointed out, for a very worthy cause.
i bought the bluray AND the LP, as it IS for a worthy coz.
Also, i am dribbling because of the amount of guests on this one, and it was your husband who organised it all, or so it seems, so hats off!
thing is, all of us fans on here were expecting walhalla, as in, an MK record with the likes of Gilmour and/or Clapton playing on it, so the initial reaction from some of us get-a-lifers (as Mark is known to have called us) is dissapointment
But this dissapointment will VERY quickly turn into enthusiasm as soon as the whole thing is out there.
pls do not be discouraged by fan enthusiasm that sometimes tends to go bonkers.
we mean well :-)
well most of us do..
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on February 08, 2024, 01:56:43 PM
I understand if someone feels disappointed, because we always thought of an album.

But it's WE. Just look this whole project from outside, it's a great milestone in the history of rock guitar, some kind of "We are the world" sung by dozens of six-chords-maestros, nothing that has EVER happened before.

I also add - apart from the noble cause - it is Mark Knopfler personale, and REAL, Hall of Fame prize. Well deserved, MK!!
it's GF's fault. He trolled us all again.

Did Guy ever say anything misleading, or have we all made assumptions?
i believe that was a go at sacrasm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on February 08, 2024, 01:58:26 PM
Wow, so much hate thrown at my husband. I hope the rest of the AMT people enjoy the new track, and as another poster pointed out, for a very worthy cause.

No hate at all, Guy’s a remarkable spot in Mark’s career. I’m very thankful for everything he’s done. That being said, he did lead us onto something else.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 01:58:35 PM
I understand if someone feels disappointed, because we always thought of an album.

But it's WE. Just look this whole project from outside, it's a great milestone in the history of rock guitar, some kind of "We are the world" sung by dozens of six-chords-maestros, nothing that has EVER happened before.

I also add - apart from the noble cause - it is Mark Knopfler personale, and REAL, Hall of Fame prize. Well deserved, MK!!
it's GF's fault. He trolled us all again.

Did Guy ever say anything misleading, or have we all made assumptions?

We made.assumptions of course, Guy wasn't allowed to say anything so we always guessed things from his few answers.

Totally our (my) fault to do that assumptions.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on February 08, 2024, 02:05:32 PM
Honestly, this had so much potential but it's just a huge disappointment.

And who on earth is going to buy a deluxe box of a 9 minute track?
well i did. as it is for a worthy cause...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 08, 2024, 02:12:39 PM
When the box appears, I will definitely order and buy it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: holaknopfler on February 08, 2024, 02:13:30 PM
Can some people just never stop moaning…. It’s an incredibly worthy cause. It’s a great cause, good track, most brilliant musicians on the planet. Well done to anyone involved and most certainly to Guy. Great work, I’ll buy the boxset.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on February 08, 2024, 02:14:29 PM
When the box appears, I will definitely order and buy it.
https://markknopflersguitarheroes.tmstor.es/
pls order ;-)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on February 08, 2024, 02:14:57 PM
Honestly, this had so much potential but it's just a huge disappointment.

And who on earth is going to buy a deluxe box of a 9 minute track?
well i did. as it is for a worthy cause...

And I bought the Vinyl and the CD/DVD box. Brilliant charity, wonderful musical moment....
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: holaknopfler on February 08, 2024, 02:15:21 PM
Wow, so much hate thrown at my husband. I hope the rest of the AMT people enjoy the new track, and as another poster pointed out, for a very worthy cause.

Most certainly, absolutely no hate. He’s done a great job for a great cause. Some people will find anything to moan about. Something like little birds who can’t get enough food to eat.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 08, 2024, 02:15:47 PM
When the box appears, I will definitely order and buy it.
https://markknopflersguitarheroes.tmstor.es/
pls order ;-)

 :thumbsup Thank you :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 08, 2024, 02:16:58 PM
Me wants the vinyl  :o

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on February 08, 2024, 02:33:11 PM
Wow, very cool! I'm not disappointed as I never had a clue in the first place whether it was going to be one track or a full album. Given the amount of artists, a full album would have been too much to handle anyway. Great initiative by Mark and Guy.

But why Local Hero, I wonder? (Or even a song of Mark's for that matter?) At any rate I am really curious as to how they have arranged everything. The whole thing on repeat for 9 minutes? Or changing dynamics?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 08, 2024, 02:33:54 PM
did you notice that in the "video" snippet, the pic shows Rudy's Music Shop, while the "official" cover sleeve is Hank's shop in London

maybe Rudy's music shop is for Teenage Cancer America, and Hank's Shop for TCT (which is english, right ?)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 02:39:34 PM
One time I was looking in the window at Hank's and Leo Sayer was doing the same.

Some sort of film crew came along and Leo started speaking to them to try to get involved with the filming.

They didn't get him involved in the filming.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 08, 2024, 02:45:19 PM
Imagine how much microphone movement is involved when recording 60 guitar players. No wonder it took a whole 2 years :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 08, 2024, 02:54:12 PM
Imagine how much microphone movement is involved when recording 60 guitar players. No wonder it took a whole 2 years :clap

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on February 08, 2024, 03:17:56 PM
Too many cooks spoils the broth.  If it wasn't for a worthy cause I'd probably pass on this as I'm never keen on these multi-artist things and also out of protest.  Also not sure I'll retain concentration for a full 9 mins.  Totally underwhelming after being well and truly led down the garden path, pictures and signed guitar et al.

Good thing is it's a nice legacy for Mark and my cynical mind says it gets him in the news in time for the new album release.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: TJ on February 08, 2024, 04:24:25 PM
Sorry, but I honestly laughed out loud when I saw it's just the one song.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on February 08, 2024, 04:43:03 PM
We had a hint with the lot 123 at Christie's auction. Mark's signature is followed by "Going home" !
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 04:49:02 PM
Good thing is it's a nice legacy for Mark and my cynical mind says it gets him in the news in time for the new album release.

This is harsh IMO. It's taken him years to get it together, he's given up loads of expensive studio time for free as well and now he is promoting it on behalf of the charity. It makes sense all round for him to merge all three projects (auction/album/charity single) around the same time period, especially considering his age and possible health issues.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Billy’s Tune on February 08, 2024, 05:00:26 PM
A shame John Illsley isn’t on it, after all he was on the original.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on February 08, 2024, 05:02:58 PM
Reading this, it seems like Bruce is on the same track with Sam, Sting and Mark, and lots of others too, I wonder if there are several songs by individual artists and a group song with lots of them :think It will be interesting to know if this is a new MK song or a Buddy Holly song? Buddy Holly songs are not that long though.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/18625548/sam-fender-bruce-springsteen-charity-track/

The signs were there in 2022 already. Sam Fender (and others) recorded a charity single(!!)... and we kept expecting a whole album haha.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 08, 2024, 05:04:47 PM
A shame John Illsley isn’t on it, after all he was on the original.

No Tommy Emmanuel either, though he loves to participate in projects like this. Apparently, Tommy's not one of Mark's guitar heroes, but Tony Iommi and Ringo Starr are.

Again, Mark's way... :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 05:09:50 PM
A shame John Illsley isn’t on it, after all he was on the original.

No Tommy Emmanuel either, though he loves to participate in projects like this. Apparently, Tommy's not one of Mark's guitar heroes, but Tony Iommi and Ringo Starr are.

Again, Mark's way... :lol

I mean... you need a drummer, and Ringo is the most famous ever.

And no offence to Tommy, but Tony Iommi is a much bigger name.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on February 08, 2024, 05:11:18 PM
https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/global-music-stars-unite-to-re-record-local-hero-with-st-james-park-set-to-host-first-play/

Mark will be at St James Park, 2nd March, when Going Home will be played for the first time before the match  NUFC against Wolverhampton!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 08, 2024, 05:17:07 PM
A shame John Illsley isn’t on it, after all he was on the original.

No Tommy Emmanuel either, though he loves to participate in projects like this. Apparently, Tommy's not one of Mark's guitar heroes, but Tony Iommi and Ringo Starr are.

Again, Mark's way... :lol

We don't know the details. Maybe he got an invitation but the deadlines did not allow him.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on February 08, 2024, 05:23:58 PM
From Guy's forum:
 
Q:Now that MKNews has confirmed that the new MK record would be released in 2024, could we at least have the TCT one in 2023? I think you mentioned it also happened something that delayed it…

A:Nothing delayed it, we just didn’t want to rush it. It will all make sense when you see what it is. Not long now before we announce.

It will all makes sense, i still dont get that.. because of the massive amount of contributions it makes sense it took 2 years?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on February 08, 2024, 05:29:01 PM
But Guy is talking about the track. Is there just 1 song then? I expected an album...

Kind of fun if you read the full thread again. 7 september 2023 i was pretty close...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 08, 2024, 05:50:28 PM
But Guy is talking about the track. Is there just 1 song then? I expected an album...

Kind of fun if you read the full thread again. 7 september 2023 i was pretty close...

Sale happened to me with the secret project that ended being the Local Hero musical. In one of the posts I think myself suggested a musical, just joking and I was so close, lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on February 08, 2024, 05:52:48 PM

This is an amazing project. So many musicians on one song for such a great cause. The snippet sounds great to me. :clap
I think "Lokal Hero" is not just a tune anymore, over time it has become an anthem for various occasions.
It doesn't get any better.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 08, 2024, 05:54:34 PM
A shame John Illsley isn’t on it, after all he was on the original.

No Tommy Emmanuel either, though he loves to participate in projects like this. Apparently, Tommy's not one of Mark's guitar heroes, but Tony Iommi and Ringo Starr are.

Again, Mark's way... :lol

I mean... you need a drummer, and Ringo is the most famous ever.

And no offence to Tommy, but Tony Iommi is a much bigger name.

I bet Ringo will just play in tandem with Ianto Thomas as he always does, with the latter dominating the mix. He seems to be playing with multiple drummers his entire solo career and justifies it being more fun. However, if you think about it, having two drummers playing the same rhythm makes absolutely no sense at all.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 08, 2024, 05:58:09 PM

This is an amazing project. So many musicians on one song for such a great cause. The snippet sounds great to me. :clap
I think "Lokal Hero" is not just a tune anymore, over time it has become an anthem for various occasions.
It doesn't get any better.

It's a perfect tune to jam along to, absolutely. They probably went through a lot of trouble not to make it too repetitive, maybe included some "Wild Theme" quieter parts or a really extended intro, who knows. This tune has a lot of potential. I would prefer a vocal collaboration, but if Mark wants to give us his guitar heroes, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 06:05:55 PM
Jeff Beck could do some really cool stuff with his tremolo arms so I wouldn't be surprised if he's doing that over the intro.

All those big charity gigs in the 80s had multiple drummers, usually Phil Collins was one of them, plus Ray Cooper on percussion!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on February 08, 2024, 06:06:57 PM
Looking forward to the recordingdiary of one song..... But what a list of names are involved!!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on February 08, 2024, 06:14:13 PM
Who is really missing?
OK, Tommy and maybe Al Di Meola
Glad Joe Bonamassa and Ry Cooder play.
Also surprised that Joe Satriani and Steve Vai are on it
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on February 08, 2024, 06:22:19 PM
A shame John Illsley isn’t on it, after all he was on the original.

Wasn’t it another bassist?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 08, 2024, 06:24:40 PM
Who is really missing?
OK, Tommy and maybe Al Di Meola
Glad Joe Bonamassa and Ry Cooder play.
Also surprised that Joe Satriani and Steve Vai are on it

What about Dan Auerbach? Past MK collaborator, and a killer guitar player. It's basically The Rolling Stones' 250 Greatest Guitarists of All Time list done Mark's way.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on February 08, 2024, 06:45:54 PM
Honestly, this had so much potential but it's just a huge disappointment.

And who on earth is going to buy a deluxe box of a 9 minute track?
well i did. as it is for a worthy cause...
It really isn't so much. Only 50% of the money goes to the charity. You might as well just donate whatever you feel like donating on your own. As dmg said, it's just a way of getting MK in the news until the album release, which is why the project has been announced at this strategic time.
The charity thing is just a nice bonus.

Also, a big reason why we're seeing an unsual amount of activity now from MK is that one of his main sources of income, which was touring, is over. And I remember interviews where he mentioned that BG studio is very, very expensive to maintain. I actually believe that one of the reasons why he sold his guitars is financial (only 25% to charity). But hey, call me cynical and mean all you want, of course  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 07:01:40 PM
As dmg said, it's just a way of getting MK in the news until the album release,

This is really, really harsh.

MK has always done loads for charity, including being the first person to sign up for Live Aid when no one else would, so to say that he has put all this work in over several years just to get a couple of headlines for a new album is WAY off base.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on February 08, 2024, 07:07:50 PM
As dmg said, it's just a way of getting MK in the news until the album release,

This is really, really harsh.

MK has always done loads for charity, including being the first person to sign up for Live Aid when no one else would, so to say that he has put all this work in over several years just to get a couple of headlines for a new album is WAY off base.
It's harsh, but it's just my point of view.
I know Mark has always done a lot of charity, and I didn't put that into question. I was just saying that project was announced now in order to benefit from the media exposure. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and it probably wasn't MK's decision, but his management team.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 08, 2024, 07:25:00 PM
As dmg said, it's just a way of getting MK in the news until the album release,

This is really, really harsh.

MK has always done loads for charity, including being the first person to sign up for Live Aid when no one else would, so to say that he has put all this work in over several years just to get a couple of headlines for a new album is WAY off base.
It's harsh, but it's just my point of view.
I know Mark has always done a lot of charity, and I didn't put that into question. I was just saying that project was announced now in order to benefit from the media exposure. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and it probably wasn't MK's decision, but his management team.

In "Under The Volcano" documentary Mark admitted, while sitting in his studio, that "every recording studio has a shelf life". He would often hint at the fact it's incredibly difficult to maintain as well. He's indeed extremely brave to have a recording studio in the era of home recording, streaming and piracy.

The wealth of musicians is overly exaggerated as well, they NEED money. Imagine their high overheads — having multiple kids, multiple homes, recording studios, collections of cars, collections of guitars, teams of dozens of people, marketing, managers, techs, etc.

It all makes sense from a marketing and financial perspective, the only thing we (fans) can complain about it sometimes this "no rush" thing takes way too much time.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: straitsway75 on February 08, 2024, 07:34:41 PM
Who is really missing?
OK, Tommy and maybe Al Di Meola
Glad Joe Bonamassa and Ry Cooder play.
Also surprised that Joe Satriani and Steve Vai are on it
....jimy page and the edfge i think...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on February 08, 2024, 07:39:04 PM
As dmg said, it's just a way of getting MK in the news until the album release,

This is really, really harsh.

MK has always done loads for charity, including being the first person to sign up for Live Aid when no one else would, so to say that he has put all this work in over several years just to get a couple of headlines for a new album is WAY off base.
It's harsh, but it's just my point of view.
I know Mark has always done a lot of charity, and I didn't put that into question. I was just saying that project was announced now in order to benefit from the media exposure. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and it probably wasn't MK's decision, but his management team.

In "Under The Volcano" documentary Mark admitted, while sitting in his studio, that "every recording studio has a shelf life". He would often hint at the fact it's incredibly difficult to maintain as well. He's indeed extremely brave to have a recording studio in the era of home recording, streaming and piracy.

The wealth of musicians is overly exaggerated as well, they NEED money. Imagine their high overheads — having multiple kids, multiple homes, recording studios, collections of cars, collections of guitars, teams of dozens of people, marketing, managers, techs, etc.

It all makes sense from a marketing and financial perspective, the only thing we (fans) can complain about it sometimes this "no rush" thing takes way too much time.
Yeah, and don't forget that BG is a world-class studio where a lot of staff work (cleaning, catering, security, technical staff), in addition to possible taxes (not sure about this, not UK citizen/resident). These people depend on Mark's income to make a living. It's just the reality of things. MK has always been charitable, but one would have to be very naive to not think that there is a financial incentive as to when and how these things are done. Especially now, that the touring income is over.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on February 08, 2024, 07:44:03 PM
As dmg said, it's just a way of getting MK in the news until the album release,

This is really, really harsh.

MK has always done loads for charity, including being the first person to sign up for Live Aid when no one else would, so to say that he has put all this work in over several years just to get a couple of headlines for a new album is WAY off base.
It's harsh, but it's just my point of view.
I know Mark has always done a lot of charity, and I didn't put that into question. I was just saying that project was announced now in order to benefit from the media exposure. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and it probably wasn't MK's decision, but his management team.

I think MK sums up his attitude to rock stardom and charity perfectly here https://youtu.be/TVIMobdXedU?si=OCRseTyEDvmkIHMy (https://youtu.be/TVIMobdXedU?si=OCRseTyEDvmkIHMy) from about 11.25....
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on February 08, 2024, 08:00:52 PM
As dmg said, it's just a way of getting MK in the news until the album release,

This is really, really harsh.

MK has always done loads for charity, including being the first person to sign up for Live Aid when no one else would, so to say that he has put all this work in over several years just to get a couple of headlines for a new album is WAY off base.
It's harsh, but it's just my point of view.
I know Mark has always done a lot of charity, and I didn't put that into question. I was just saying that project was announced now in order to benefit from the media exposure. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and it probably wasn't MK's decision, but his management team.

I think MK sums up his attitude to rock stardom and charity perfectly here https://youtu.be/TVIMobdXedU?si=OCRseTyEDvmkIHMy (https://youtu.be/TVIMobdXedU?si=OCRseTyEDvmkIHMy) from about 11.25....
He does.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Guitarman1972 on February 08, 2024, 08:03:23 PM
Well, I think we all can agree that a Part 2 needs to be recorded!  :D

The Guitar Gods ommision list:
- John Mayer
- Warren Haynes
- Marcus King
- Pat Metheny
- Nuno Bettencourt
- Sir Paul McCartney
- Andy Summers
- Johnny Marr
- George Benson
- Gary Clark Jr.
- Keb' Mo'
- Eric Johnson
- Christone "Kingfish" Ingram
- James Taylor
- Steve Lukather
- Mike Campbell
- Jan Akkerman (Focus)
- Robert Cray
- Lindsey Buckingham
- Larry Carlton
- Al Di Meola
- Bonnie Raitt
- The Edge
- John Frusciante
- Keith Richards
- Carlos Santana
- Jimmy Page
- Mike Oldfield
- Chris Rea
- Quinn Sullivan
- Tommy Emmanuel
- Brandon Taz Niederauer
...etc.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 08, 2024, 08:42:09 PM
Hey folks, coming home late and not the nerve to read these thousand posts... ;D  where can I find the link to choose the order of the charity track? Thanks for any help. :wave

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 08, 2024, 08:47:30 PM
Same for me, skipped some pages

Will buy it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on February 08, 2024, 08:55:35 PM
https://markknopflersguitarheroes.tmstor.es/?lf=52149ea256c4d5e8596da9f7218a90d8
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 08, 2024, 08:59:53 PM
Thank youhuu!

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on February 08, 2024, 09:11:15 PM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on February 08, 2024, 09:19:56 PM
Well, I think we all can agree that a Part 2 needs to be recorded!  :D

The Guitar Gods ommision list:
- John Mayer
- Warren Haynes
- Marcus King
- Pat Metheny
- Nuno Bettencourt
- Sir Paul McCartney
- Andy Summers
- Johnny Marr
- George Benson
- Gary Clark Jr.
- Keb' Mo'
- Eric Johnson
- Christone "Kingfish" Ingram
- James Taylor
- Steve Lukather
- Mike Campbell
- Jan Akkerman (Focus)
- Robert Cray
- Lindsey Buckingham
- Larry Carlton
- Al Di Meola
- Bonnie Raitt
- The Edge
- John Frusciante
- Keith Richards
- Carlos Santana
- Jimmy Page
- Mike Oldfield
- Chris Rea
- Quinn Sullivan
- Tommy Emmanuel
- Brandon Taz Niederauer
...etc.

Steve Lukather is on it btw...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 08, 2024, 09:23:10 PM
Good luck!

I am in for the vinyl. Not sure if it is limited or not but will order. Shipping to Germany is 6,50 € which is perfectly fine with me.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: the visitor on February 08, 2024, 09:43:25 PM
Good project,  good cause, good line up, good tune, good cover. I think it's all good. Will buy and be happy.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 08, 2024, 09:52:10 PM
This will be CD for me.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jf9081 on February 08, 2024, 09:59:55 PM
Going Home (Theme From Local Hero)   9:50   
exact minutes. I can't wait!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 08, 2024, 10:22:37 PM
10 minutes. This will be a unique version.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2024, 10:36:16 PM
Jack White was on that guitar documentary with Page and The Edge.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Iron Hand on February 08, 2024, 11:22:56 PM
Can't believe that the WHOLE project that took around TWO YEARS is just ONE SONG, that we all know, like GOING HOME!!!!!

It doesn't matter that is 9 minutes long and all those musicians played it, this is the biggest dissapoinment ever.
I'm not disappointed that it's one song, but I do think that a full-sized CD and a Blu-Ray should have some kind of bonus/B-side. Like a different mix (e.g. without drums, or with contributions that were edited out of the "main" one, alternate takes, whatever). Or a remix of the original recording + the Alchemy version. The Blu-Ray could maybe have a Making Of, idk.

I'll probably just buy the download when it's available...
Going Home (Theme From Local Hero)   9:50   
exact minutes. I can't wait!
I assume it's been kept under ten minutes because of some weird rule of download sites, same as with "Blackstar" by David Bowie.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Guitarman1972 on February 08, 2024, 11:49:05 PM
I understand now it's only a retake of Going Home Theme with all those big names doing a small part on it  ???. To be honest I think this is really silly. I would understand that Mark would have written new songs and have the big names play on one of the songs and have a re-take of Going Home as bonus. It would have made much more sense if Mark asked them to play on 2 songs. On one new one and on the special edition of Going Home.  :hmm

Doubt even if this version is going to be better than the Alchemy version.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 09, 2024, 12:20:45 AM
I understand now it's only a retake of Going Home Theme with all those big names doing a small part on it  ???. To be honest I think this is really silly. I would understand that Mark would have written new songs and have the big names play on one of the songs and have a re-take of Going Home as bonus. It would have made much more sense if Mark asked them to play on 2 songs. On one new one and on the special edition of Going Home.  :hmm

Doubt even if this version is going to be better than the Alchemy version.

The idea of 65 people or whatever jamming on one tune in and of itself is ridiculous, it solves a problem that never existed. Especially considering the amount of time given to each player (do the math). Even the title is confusing, like... Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes? He would be the last person on the planet I would expect to use the words "guitar hero" for anything. However, for a charity track, it's perfect. It's grandiose, it's Mark's most famous instrumental piece, it has Sgt. Pepper's designer doing the cover, and all these names.

I doubt somebody recreationally listens to "We Are the World" or similar songs to enjoy the music. Speaking of which, check out Bob Dylan's reaction to "We Are the World" in the music video — it sums up the feelings of an artist doing this. He said, "I tried to do my best". It contradicts Mark's public personality just a little bit with this attention-grabbing, record-breaking, "guitar hero"-based, instrumental, clearly not song-driven or vocal-driven project, but it's still a million times better than Dire Straits reunion and helps a good cause. MK did it again.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on February 09, 2024, 07:24:59 AM
As well as the article that took up the whole of a page in The Times yesterday, they also published a leading article on the event:-

imi Hendrix would be 81 now. Imagine what the man proclaimed as the greatest guitarist of all time might have achieved in the 53 years since his untimely death in a London flat from an overdose of barbiturates. Hendrix is one of the 27 Club, that roll call of doomed youth, rock stars destined to die at that cursed age. Rolling Stones founder Brian Jones was a fellow member, like Hendrix a talent forever preserved in aspic. Yet, despite their reputation for hellraising, and the implied contractual term with fame to check out early, most great guitarists make it to old age. Now, a millennium’s worth of talent is being mobilised in a noble cause.

Mark Knopfler, singer and lead guitarist of Dire Straits, has co-opted his heroes to play in a recording of his composition Going Home, the theme from the 1983 film Local Hero. Proceeds from the recording will go to charities helping teenagers suffering from cancer in Britain and the US.

The line-up includes living legends such as Eric Clapton, 78, Pete Townshend, 78, and David Gilmour, 77, who join spring chicken Brian May, 76. Add the US contingent, including Bruce Springsteen and Slash, a baby at 58, and then bassist Sting, drummer Ringo Starr and harmonica player Roger Daltrey, plus others, and the total years of exceptional talent comfortably exceeds a thousand; an embarrassment of riches that has forced the producers to extend the instrumental to nine minutes. Most moving is the contribution of Jeff Beck, who died last year after recording it.

When it comes to so-called super groups the parts tend to be greater than the whole. Presumably, given the inevitable congestion, the chance for these talents to shine is limited. But this is help for a good cause, not an egofest. In any case, the ­recording offers years of drunken after-party fun for air-guitaring rock nerds as they shout over each other while sorting the Pete from the Slash.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 09, 2024, 09:57:37 AM
We Are The World is indeed a terrible song but plenty of people listen to Do They Know It's Christmas to enjoy the music every December, at least here in the UK.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Iron Hand on February 09, 2024, 10:37:18 AM
I actually think We Are The World is a better song than Do They Know It's Christmas. It's got more interesting musical ideas and doesn't descend into repetition quite as quickly.

Both songs have been doing fairly well compared to other charity projects like the Ferry Aid version of "Let It Be" (which features Mark Knopfler), which you rarely hear on the radio nowadays, or the various re-recordings of the Band Aid and USA for Africa songs.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 09, 2024, 11:05:07 AM
I actually think We Are The World is a better song than Do They Know It's Christmas. It's got more interesting musical ideas and doesn't descend into repetition quite as quickly.

Both songs have been doing fairly well compared to other charity projects like the Ferry Aid version of "Let It Be" (which features Mark Knopfler), which you rarely hear on the radio nowadays, or the various re-recordings of the Band Aid and USA for Africa songs.

I will respectfully disagree, I think We Are The World is horrible and cheesy, Band Aid has a number of good hooks, good drumming, cool synth etc. Just my opinion though!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 09, 2024, 11:43:17 AM
A couple of things of not from the artist line up, I was surprised to see Sheryl Crow, she is a good singer, but not a guitar hero, so, I guess she will be playing rhythm guitar? It's great that we get to hear Vince Gill on a track with Mark again, not to mention the dream of David Gilmour :) and other Mark co-workers like Hank Marvin and Sonny Landreth. I am not surprised to see Mike Rutherford as he is good friends with Guy. Keith Urban is a big Mark Knopfler fan too. I am sure Brad Paisley will bring some cool country licks, but, I am interested to hear how Steve Vai and Joe Satriani play Going Home, I can foresee some tapping ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 09, 2024, 12:45:46 PM
I think that Guy must had a very problematic time having so many guitar solos from so many different players to mix... wow, how do you choose which one goes where? Imagine each of them played 12 excellent solos, but you have to choose one, and where do you mix that one?

Wow, the size of this project is big, even more difficult to record a whole record with less say 12 songs, that would give you more room to everybody, but mix all those people's solos in a 9 minutes song? challenging!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 09, 2024, 12:49:32 PM
9:50  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 09, 2024, 12:51:54 PM
9:50  ;)

He he, well spoted, in 50 seconds you can add many other small licks from quite some people, LOL
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 09, 2024, 12:52:59 PM
Do this make it the longest Mark Knopfler recording since Telegraph Road? :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 09, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
Do this make it the longest Mark Knopfler recording since Telegraph Road? :hmm

In the sky or follow the ribbon?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 09, 2024, 01:51:10 PM
Do this make it the longest Mark Knopfler recording since Telegraph Road? :hmm

In the sky or follow the ribbon?

They are shorter  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 09, 2024, 02:32:03 PM
I think that Guy must had a very problematic time having so many guitar solos from so many different players to mix... wow, how do you choose which one goes where? Imagine each of them played 12 excellent solos, but you have to choose one, and where do you mix that one?

Wow, the size of this project is big, even more difficult to record a whole record with less say 12 songs, that would give you more room to everybody, but mix all those people's solos in a 9 minutes song? challenging!

According to the snippet, it could be some solos played at the same time in this "trade licks" fashion, which is not the best solution, but works I guess. How else you can put so many guitar players on one 9-minute track anyway? And apparently, including a big input from Jeff Beck, who died before the track was released, that's how long it took to make.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on February 09, 2024, 03:34:30 PM
I read in this French article that Mark , Bruce , Andy Taylor, Joan Jett sing. Do you think MK wrote lyrics for this special version of Going Home ?
https://www-nostalgie-fr.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nostalgie.fr/amp/mark-knopfler-monte-un-incroyable-supergroupe-pour-un-single-caritatif-70249821?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 09, 2024, 03:42:15 PM
I read in this French article that Mark , Bruce , Andy Taylor, Joan Jett sing. Do you think MK wrote lyrics for this special version of Going Home ?
https://www-nostalgie-fr.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nostalgie.fr/amp/mark-knopfler-monte-un-incroyable-supergroupe-pour-un-single-caritatif-70249821?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe

 :o
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 09, 2024, 03:46:40 PM
I read in this French article that Mark , Bruce , Andy Taylor, Joan Jett sing. Do you think MK wrote lyrics for this special version of Going Home ?
https://www-nostalgie-fr.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nostalgie.fr/amp/mark-knopfler-monte-un-incroyable-supergroupe-pour-un-single-caritatif-70249821?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe

LOL

That would be so great 😃
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on February 09, 2024, 03:54:42 PM
Guy’s fast answer !

Hi Guy
I read in an article that MK, Bruce S and others sing in Going Home ? Did Mark especially write lyrics for this 9 minutes long version of Going Home ?
Thanks ?

There are no lyrics in Going Home. No-one is singing, just wailing
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 09, 2024, 04:09:05 PM
So even The Wailers are on the record.

Truly an amazing line up.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 09, 2024, 05:43:42 PM
So even The Wailers are on the record.

Truly an amazing line up.

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Beryl on February 09, 2024, 05:52:56 PM
Obviously I'm nobody but this looks like a great way to raise money for a great cause but musically speaking I hope the results are not as atrocious as they seem right now. Hundreds of leaks just thrown in. Are we having a list of authors of the licks with the exact minute they appear? A bunch of covers from Buddy Holly or even some blues numbers with two or three people in each one would have been a lot more promising thing from a musical point of view and probably a lot easier for Guy to get on tape and mix.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 09, 2024, 06:09:36 PM
Remember that it is just a charity single.

If absolutly nothing had leaked before there would not have been some sort of deception after months of expectations.

An simple and fun thing to do for everybody involved, Guy's excepted.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 09, 2024, 06:22:27 PM
Remember that it is just a charity single.

If absolutly nothing had leaked before there would not have been some sort of deception after months of expectations.

An simple and fun thing to do for everybody involved, Guy's excepted.

Yes, I think this is a perfect example of how expectations can ruin the whole experience. Personally, I don't expect it to be a masterpiece I'll play on repeat. If you have a few flowers it's great, but when you stack up dozens and dozens of flowers and lock them in a small room, it can be a little bit toxic for your senses... 65 people on the record can be fun only in one case — if it's a philharmonic orchestra and not 60 soloists. Anyway, I want to be wrong, and not in a hurry to hear this single. I wish it to be amazing, raising tons of money and millions of views and listens on all the platforms.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 09, 2024, 07:49:40 PM
I'm not really much looking forward to this now that is just Going home with 60 people playing, I'll probably have it some listenings but would forget it very soon, as happened with that Bob Harris benwfic single of "Stand by me" also with many people playing on it. Was curious the first listening, I played it a couple more to spot everyone playing or singing but lost the interest very quickly.

If it is a whole record of versions of Buddy Holly played by those people I would had it on repeat on my car cd player for a month or two as it would offer many songs, but just a song, that's going to be boring very quickly.

But as it's a charity thing, I bought all formats, it's a good cause.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on February 09, 2024, 08:36:14 PM
I don't think this record is meant to be played on every radio station day after day to reach the top of the charts.
It's just a wonderful way to raise money for these young people who so desperately need it to hopefully soon can lead the healthy lives they deserve.
We should deeply thank Mark and Guy and all the musicians involved for their commitment as well as the people who are willing to buy this record to help raise much money for this project.
I have already ordered my copy!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 09, 2024, 08:41:03 PM
Yes, I'm totally in for the charities.

I think it would sold great as probably fans of each musician would buy a copy, that's good news
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 09, 2024, 10:23:49 PM
Money for something  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 10, 2024, 09:58:28 AM
I think this is a great way to make money for the charity, just imagine all the fans of all those artists wanting to buy this to hear their favourite, that means a lot of sales from all over the world :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 10, 2024, 03:55:01 PM
viervalen:

How will we know who plays every bit on TCT Local Hero theme? Is going to be a video or something? Would be great

GF:

All will be revealed
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 10, 2024, 04:45:52 PM
Good luck!

Obviously no shipping to Germany...  :-\

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Markus on February 10, 2024, 05:51:17 PM
Obviously no shipping to Germany...  :-\

Look at -> jpc (https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/mark-knopfler-s-guitar-heroes-going-home/hnum/11756184)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 10, 2024, 07:16:40 PM
Oooh thank you  :smack  :thumbsup :thumbsup

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on February 10, 2024, 07:28:37 PM
I ordered the CD in Germany
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 10, 2024, 09:08:07 PM
According to Guy, no "hoped for" videos are incoming for Going Home, meaning a video with all these amazing musicians playing, that's quite a shame and quite head-scratching for a project like this. I hope we'll see at least some of the players doing their thing or at least some photos. Have you seen a charity project with famous musicians without a video? I haven't.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 10, 2024, 09:26:44 PM
This whole project is lacking some "momentum"....   of course it it for a good cause and that is a beautiful thing. But it is totally artificial and without any spirit. I mean you can say that We Are The World is cheesy or that it together with Do They Know It's Chrismas" are not good songs, but the artists met at THAT special night at THAT place and filled it with spirit and made it a remarkable and unforgettable song, the fact that we talk and write about it 30 years later is evidence for it. Here, we have Guy who fumbled around for endless months and I guess most of these artists sent in their small contribution via internet. It it just not good as it is not live or based on any interaction between musicians, it is a fake song. Of course I haven't heard it yet, but I bet the cringe factor is very high on this one. I ordered it nonetheless as I like it as a special collector's item and because I want to contribute to the good cause.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 10, 2024, 10:25:07 PM
A month until the release and I read that it was a fake song. I can not believe. I am asking for a little more enthusiasm and positive attitude. Regards.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 10, 2024, 10:42:20 PM
Oh c'mon.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on February 11, 2024, 12:14:01 AM
Personally I think this will pick up momentum prior to release when it's publicised through the individual artists media channels. A few have already put mentions on their websites, Brian May to name one, Why on earth with the names involved wouldn't this make bucketfuls of cash for a worthy cause.

Way to much over analysis and cynicism from some quarters.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on February 11, 2024, 08:42:46 AM
A month until the release and I read that it was a fake song. I can not believe. I am asking for a little more enthusiasm and positive attitude. Regards.
There was a lot of enthusiasm for the DS live box, for the guitar auction and there is a lot of enthusiasm about One Deep River. For this one, there are mixed reactions and that's ok.
I'm not a fan of this idea that we have to find everything good or exciting just because we're fans.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 11, 2024, 08:55:12 AM
I got a "notification mail" now, no idea why is that. Is that a first warning from the censorship department of this board?

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on February 11, 2024, 10:04:50 AM
I got a "notification mail" now, no idea why is that. Is that a first warning from the censorship department of this board?

LE

No warming, probably you hit the notification button. The mail said you are 'watching' this topic. So it seems an own setting you made.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on February 11, 2024, 10:11:52 AM
It is already No 2 and 8 on amazon.de music charts :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on February 11, 2024, 10:16:32 AM
Mark is on BBC4 at the moment
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 11, 2024, 10:20:29 AM
I got a "notification mail" now, no idea why is that. Is that a first warning from the censorship department of this board?

LE

No warming, probably you hit the notification button. The mail said you are 'watching' this topic. So it seems an own setting you made.

Okay   :lol  me and technology then. Wasn't aware. Sorry
 
LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on February 11, 2024, 10:21:52 AM
Mark talkes about , Pete Townsend, Jeff Back and Sem Fender and about the new album.
Mark seemed to be on the phone.
Should be still be available later, Mark starts at about 12 min, and interview about 5 minutes
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 11, 2024, 10:53:53 AM
Looking at the cover artwork, has anyone else noticed something weird about the photo of Guy Fletcher? He is in the middle just above Mark, his face is grey :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 11, 2024, 11:07:45 AM
Personally I think this will pick up momentum prior to release when it's publicised through the individual artists media channels. A few have already put mentions on their websites, Brian May to name one, Why on earth with the names involved wouldn't this make bucketfuls of cash for a worthy cause.

Way to much over analysis and cynicism from some quarters.

A month until the release and I read that it was a fake song. I can not believe. I am asking for a little more enthusiasm and positive attitude. Regards.
There was a lot of enthusiasm for the DS live box, for the guitar auction and there is a lot of enthusiasm about One Deep River. For this one, there are mixed reactions and that's ok.
I'm not a fan of this idea that we have to find everything good or exciting just because we're fans.

Also, I think not everything should be kept this secret. What was the point of this CIA level of security regarding the TCT project? Fans noticed a stream of celebrities coming to Mark's studio, with David Gilmour and Sting being the main "spoilers", and knew something was cooking. They imagined an album full of Buddy Holly songs, duets with Mark, a new song or two maybe?

But what they got is the announcement (!), of a remake of a 1983 instrumental tune full of guitar shredding called "Guitar Heroes" coming from the man who never even considered himself a guitar hero, and was never interested in too much of guitar noodling in the first place. All these stars are playing the same tune crammed into 9 minutes... I mean, just by typing this I can understand all the frustration.

It's a little bit, itsy-bitsy anti-climactic.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on February 11, 2024, 11:28:21 AM
I’m looking forward to hearing it……how long will it before it’s on YouTube in its entirety after its release?

As cool as a video montage would be, we all know that they weren’t all at BG playing live, the majority would have sent their parts in so getting them to film themselves too would have been over complicated.
The project has already taken two years!! I’m not sure why really, you just contact everyone who has agreed to be on it and give them a deadline to record their part by….dont you?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 11, 2024, 11:32:31 AM
Hopefully normal people will not have the same expectation than the die-hard Knopfler's fans  :wave

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 11, 2024, 11:39:59 AM
A month until the release and I read that it was a fake song. I can not believe. I am asking for a little more enthusiasm and positive attitude. Regards.
There was a lot of enthusiasm for the DS live box, for the guitar auction and there is a lot of enthusiasm about One Deep River. For this one, there are mixed reactions and that's ok.
I'm not a fan of this idea that we have to find everything good or exciting just because we're fans.

Indeed. Some of the happy clappers on Facebook say that anyone who doesn’t lavish praise on every single thing MK does are not “real” fans.

So I guess we have a few imaginary fans on here.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 11, 2024, 11:46:50 AM
I’m looking forward to hearing it……how long will it before it’s on YouTube in its entirety after its release?

As cool as a video montage would be, we all know that they weren’t all at BG playing live, the majority would have sent their parts in so getting them to film themselves too would have been over complicated.
The project has already taken two years!! I’m not sure why really, you just contact everyone who has agreed to be on it and give them a deadline to record their part by….dont you?

It has to be released on YouTube officially, the question is more like will it be leaked before the official release or not? :lol

Yes, I think most of the time was spent clearing all the rights, doing paperwork and stuff like that. All these men are professionals and recorded their parts in the amount of time it takes to listen to them. Not sure recording the video portion is complicated. I mean Mark bothered to record himself in multiple takes over the green screen for his Dion collaboration recently, and we just got "Ahead Of The Game" filmed professionally, so it's not an impossible thing to ask.

I hope at least to see the biggest guys (Eric, David, Sting, Ringo, The Who, etc.) playing.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 11, 2024, 11:57:55 AM
Hopefully normal people will not have the same expectation than the die-hard Knopfler's fans  :wave

The funny thing is normal people are OVER THE TOP about this, and rightfully so. Die-hards are on the opposite side of the spectrum, overly frustrated, probably rightfully so as well. It's not fair to think that die-hards are always grumpy, and normal fans are always happy. I genuinely think it could be done better, the whole campaign. Not like we can change anything anyway. But the fact is — expectations were built, purposefully or not, and then destroyed, purposefully or not. Die-hard fans are still people, and it's a balancing act to try to please both sides. But Mark is not the type of guy who's had a great history of pleasing die-hard fans :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Markus on February 11, 2024, 12:15:39 PM
On Brian May's website, the guitarists pictured are listed by name. Unfortunately, they are difficult to read.










Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on February 11, 2024, 12:47:31 PM
This one better Markus?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on February 11, 2024, 12:48:08 PM
Mark talkes about , Pete Townsend, Jeff Back and Sem Fender and about the new album.
Mark seemed to be on the phone.
Should be still be available later, Mark starts at about 12 min, and interview about 5 minutes

Do you have a link to the interview?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 11, 2024, 12:48:39 PM
Looking at the cover artwork, has anyone else noticed something weird about the photo of Guy Fletcher? He is in the middle just above Mark, his face is grey :hmm

Guy Fletcher's face is not grey. Just somebody's being sloppy with the sponge tool in Photoshop... Guy doesn't have so much grey hair in the original photo. This makes me think how lazy everything seems nowadays... Sgt. Pepper's cover was done practically, with cardboard cutouts of celebrities and living Beatles standing in front. Here, it's all stock photos of even Guy and Mark themselves and a sloppy job at that.

And why some people are greyed out as if they are dead and others are not grey anyway? John Sebastian and Joan Jett are still alive, and yet they are grey like Jeff Beck. It doesn't make any sense people. I know this criticising is getting too old and we already bored everybody to death with our moaning, but if something's messed up, something's messed up.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on February 11, 2024, 12:48:51 PM
Personally I think this will pick up momentum prior to release when it's publicised through the individual artists media channels. A few have already put mentions on their websites, Brian May to name one, Why on earth with the names involved wouldn't this make bucketfuls of cash for a worthy cause.

Way to much over analysis and cynicism from some quarters.

Lovely little post from Brian May btw.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on February 11, 2024, 12:50:31 PM
Mark talkes about , Pete Townsend, Jeff Back and Sem Fender and about the new album.
Mark seemed to be on the phone.
Should be still be available later, Mark starts at about 12 min, and interview about 5 minutes

Do you have a link to the interview?

Seem to have found it myself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001w71n

Listen from about 13.45
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Markus on February 11, 2024, 12:58:50 PM
This one better Markus?
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 11, 2024, 01:00:43 PM
Mark talkes about , Pete Townsend, Jeff Back and Sem Fender and about the new album.
Mark seemed to be on the phone.
Should be still be available later, Mark starts at about 12 min, and interview about 5 minutes

Do you have a link to the interview?

And me too, please:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on February 11, 2024, 01:04:01 PM
Mark talkes about , Pete Townsend, Jeff Back and Sem Fender and about the new album.
Mark seemed to be on the phone.
Should be still be available later, Mark starts at about 12 min, and interview about 5 minutes

Do you have a link to the interview?

And me too, please:)

Just read the topic mate.
I've already corrected myself and put it out there
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 11, 2024, 01:07:42 PM
Mark talkes about , Pete Townsend, Jeff Back and Sem Fender and about the new album.
Mark seemed to be on the phone.
Should be still be available later, Mark starts at about 12 min, and interview about 5 minutes

Do you have a link to the interview?

And me too, please:)

Just read the topic mate.
I've already corrected myself and put it out there

I didn't notice before. Thank you:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on February 11, 2024, 01:10:06 PM
Mark talkes about , Pete Townsend, Jeff Back and Sem Fender and about the new album.
Mark seemed to be on the phone.
Should be still be available later, Mark starts at about 12 min, and interview about 5 minutes

Do you have a link to the interview?

And me too, please:)

Just read the topic mate.
I've already corrected myself and put it out there

I didn't notice before. Thank you:)

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on February 11, 2024, 01:49:31 PM
I hope everybody interested has found the BBC interview by now!
But here it is again, Mark starting at about 13 minutes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001w71n
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 11, 2024, 02:06:27 PM
Are we supposed to blow our own systems by playing it way too loud ?

The ultimate hommage to Mark  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: skydiver on February 11, 2024, 03:31:34 PM
I hope everybody interested has found the BBC interview by now!
But here it is again, Mark starting at about 13 minutes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001w71n

Thank you very much! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on February 11, 2024, 03:38:43 PM
I hope everybody interested has found the BBC interview by now!
But here it is again, Mark starting at about 13 minutes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001w71n

Many thanks kris-b!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on February 11, 2024, 05:49:11 PM
I hope everybody interested has found the BBC interview by now!
But here it is again, Mark starting at about 13 minutes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001w71n

Vielen Dank!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Iron Hand on February 11, 2024, 06:50:37 PM
This whole project is lacking some "momentum"....   of course it it for a good cause and that is a beautiful thing. But it is totally artificial and without any spirit. I mean you can say that We Are The World is cheesy or that it together with Do They Know It's Chrismas" are not good songs, but the artists met at THAT special night at THAT place and filled it with spirit and made it a remarkable and unforgettable song, the fact that we talk and write about it 30 years later is evidence for it.
Those two songs were written specifically for the occasion by Bob Geldof/Midge Ure and Lionel Richie/Michael Jackson. I think that's another point to consider. No matter how great this version of "Going Home" will be, it's going to be hard to supersede not one but TWO old and well established recordings (the MK soundtrack and the Alchemy live version).
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on February 11, 2024, 08:58:46 PM
Way to much over analysis and cynicism from some quarters.

Yup. Sometimes it's totally OK just to sit back and enjoy.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 11, 2024, 09:51:21 PM
Well, I like that this one appears to lead with the Les Paul on this one. That’s always been my favourite variant.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on February 12, 2024, 07:35:57 AM
Well, I like that this one appears to lead with the Les Paul on this one. That’s always been my favourite variant.

I agree. I think a Strat sounds great for the Wild Theme, but for Going Home a singing, distorted tone works really well.

I also think it is really cool that Mark got in touch with guitarists you don't normally associate with him.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on February 12, 2024, 08:06:29 AM
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I forgot Pete Townshend had played Going Home with Mark. Watch Pete on stage later in the clip. Maybe those are the "chords" Mark was referring to recently in an interview when discussing Pete's contribution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AatBlEWwY80
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 12, 2024, 08:32:27 AM
Must have been a ball for Jack to get the chance to play with Pete. Very nice moment captured to see how fast and easy the greats (and louds) get into each other's stuff.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 12, 2024, 10:40:40 AM
Must have been a ball for Jack to get the chance to play with Pete. Very nice moment captured to see how fast and easy the greats (and louds) get into each other's stuff.

LE

Mark's current manager is a die-hard fan of Pete's, and Mark had an opportunity to organise meetings for them on multiple occasions. Pretty sure they had a great time this time around as well! I never was terribly into The Who's stuff though, probably because I'm not a native speaker and they rely a lot on poetry and symbolism, probably because this music is just a bit too heavy for me.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 12, 2024, 11:26:23 AM
Interesting.

I've never thought about The Who as being a lyric driven act. If you listen to something like Won't Get Fooled Again or The Seeker to me it's all about the powerful music.

On the plus side, these collaborations brought to mind the fact that while MK may have led a low-key, "boring" life, he's managed to avoid the controversies that some of the collaborators on this project haven't (Townshend, Page, Clapton).
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 12, 2024, 11:37:43 AM
Interesting.

I've never thought about The Who as being a lyric driven act. If you listen to something like Won't Get Fooled Again or The Seeker to me it's all about the powerful music.

On the plus side, these collaborations brought to mind the fact that while MK may have led a low-key, "boring" life, he's managed to avoid the controversies that some of the collaborators on this project haven't (Townshend, Page, Clapton).

What about all these rock operas though? I love rock opera by the way, as in real classical operas performed in rock settings, somehow The Who's operas never touched me. Yes, probably the music is too powerful for me, I've never liked really powerful music and in fact, this is why I love Mark's music so much.

Not only did MK manage to lead a great no-controversy life (apart maybe from this avoiding tax drama), but I think one of his great accomplishments will be to never resurrect his old band in any shape or form. He could do it and never think about money again, but he chose not to, and it deserves respect.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 12, 2024, 11:44:37 AM
Also he never would be one of those who come up with endless farewell-last-tour-announcements and then come back two years later.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 12, 2024, 11:47:10 AM
I'm not a huge fan of The Who, I guess I would say I like the singles. I've never watched or listened to any of the rock operas all the way through, unless you count the Tommy OST which I picked up on vinyl and have listened to once.

Absolutely agree on MK refusing to resurrect DS as a cash grab. He's managed his career perfectly IMO. I imagine there are quite a few of his peers entirely envious of the fact that he was playing hefty arenas with a set focussed on the music he wanted to play, folky stuff etc, while they churn out the same hits from 40 years ago.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 12, 2024, 11:48:06 AM
Also he never would be one of those who come up with endless farewell-last-tour-announcements and then come back two years later.

LE

Yes, or did a special tour to play Brothers in Arms in full or something like that as many others have done.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 12, 2024, 12:05:46 PM
Interesting.

I've never thought about The Who as being a lyric driven act. If you listen to something like Won't Get Fooled Again or The Seeker to me it's all about the powerful music.


Won't Get Fooled Again ahve very cynical lyrics. Great powerful music yes, but also lyrics with a "social/political" message
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on February 12, 2024, 12:08:05 PM
and Whos' next project was Lifehouse, based on spiritual thoughts, distopic vision about our society, and poetry lyrics

I think that Pete is one of greatest songwriters, in the same league as Bob Dylan, Paul Simon or Macca imho
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 12, 2024, 12:50:07 PM
Well, I like that this one appears to lead with the Les Paul on this one. That’s always been my favourite variant.

I agree. I think a Strat sounds great for the Wild Theme, but for Going Home a singing, distorted tone works really well.

I also think it is really cool that Mark got in touch with guitarists you don't normally associate with him.

Was it Mark who choose the players then?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 12, 2024, 12:57:01 PM
Well, I like that this one appears to lead with the Les Paul on this one. That’s always been my favourite variant.

I agree. I think a Strat sounds great for the Wild Theme, but for Going Home a singing, distorted tone works really well.

I also think it is really cool that Mark got in touch with guitarists you don't normally associate with him.

Was it Mark who choose the players then?

It's called Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes, so I think it's safe to say it was he who chose the players, with a little help from his friends of course.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 12, 2024, 01:35:57 PM
I know, but has it been said officially that he choose them? Satriani? Vai? would Mark choose them?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 12, 2024, 01:51:31 PM
My guess is that with ongoing sessions this thing got its own life and people started to ask if they can participate. All MK had to do was saying "yes of course"  :lol

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on February 12, 2024, 02:04:26 PM
I know, but has it been said officially that he choose them? Satriani? Vai? would Mark choose them?

My guess is that with ongoing sessions this thing got its own life and people started to ask if they can participate. All MK had to do was saying "yes of course"  :lol

LE

Those are great players anyway, and you need to live under a rock to not appreciate Satriani, Vai, Slash, Iommi and all the rest of 'em, even if you're not a fan of their music. I never purposefully listen to these guys, however, I know their hits, their signature songs and their style. The best part about it, is they surely have some deep mutual respect towards MK, as his precise finger-style playing and intricate lines are as difficult, or often even more difficult than stuff these guitar heroes are doing with their picks. And he's doing it all in his own brilliant songs, without stop for 50 years.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 12, 2024, 02:24:07 PM
I have heard Satriani praise Mark but not Vai, I am sure he would appreciate Mark's technique though. I am sure if Chet was still alive, he would have been on the track too.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 12, 2024, 02:42:37 PM
This great list of 66, can be very educational for a lot of people. The most exotic name for me is Keiji Haino from Japan:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on February 12, 2024, 02:48:13 PM
I have heard Satriani praise Mark but not Vai, I am sure he would appreciate Mark's technique though. I am sure if Chet was still alive, he would have been on the track too.

And maybe J.J. Cale and Gary Moore too.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on February 12, 2024, 03:54:51 PM
How about this fingerstyle track by Vai? Clean Strat tone with barely any effects. Technically speaking this is on a ten times higher level than Mark ever was (but it doesn't mean it's ten times better musically, which is a matter of opinion). I guess my point is that just because Vai is best known for his shredding, he can play very melodically too. I am super curious as to what these guys will on Going Home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fO954zQ3Us
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 12, 2024, 04:29:12 PM
https://twitter.com/chickenfootjoe/status/1075574297966501888?lang=en
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 12, 2024, 05:17:35 PM
I posted this on here a couple of years ago, but it seems more relevant now.
https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/ever-wondered-what-mark-knopflers-contemporaries-have-to-say-about-him
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on February 12, 2024, 07:24:34 PM
One day we will learn that Princess Diana was given a pro shot copy of the gig.
I know I am dreaming.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on February 13, 2024, 12:28:40 PM
How about this fingerstyle track by Vai? Clean Strat tone with barely any effects. Technically speaking this is on a ten times higher level than Mark ever was (but it doesn't mean it's ten times better musically, which is a matter of opinion). I guess my point is that just because Vai is best known for his shredding, he can play very melodically too. I am super curious as to what these guys will on Going Home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fO954zQ3Us
i prefer to show this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNhiEH13O9s
never been a major Vai fan (Satriani is a whole other story...) but here i think he really shows his melodical skills...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on February 13, 2024, 02:37:57 PM
How about this fingerstyle track by Vai? Clean Strat tone with barely any effects. Technically speaking this is on a ten times higher level than Mark ever was (but it doesn't mean it's ten times better musically, which is a matter of opinion). I guess my point is that just because Vai is best known for his shredding, he can play very melodically too. I am super curious as to what these guys will on Going Home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fO954zQ3Us
i prefer to show this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNhiEH13O9s
never been a major Vai fan (Satriani is a whole other story...) but here i think he really shows his melodical skills...

My favorite Vai track but the most amazing version is the one with the Dutch Metropole orchestra. That version is my all time favorite
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on February 14, 2024, 09:12:39 AM
Must have been a ball for Jack to get the chance to play with Pete. Very nice moment captured to see how fast and easy the greats (and louds) get into each other's stuff.

LE

Mark's current manager is a die-hard fan of Pete's, and Mark had an opportunity to organise meetings for them on multiple occasions. Pretty sure they had a great time this time around as well! I never was terribly into The Who's stuff though, probably because I'm not a native speaker and they rely a lot on poetry and symbolism, probably because this music is just a bit too heavy for me.

I'm not a fan of The Who either, but I like "Blue, Red and Grey" very much.   Pete Townsend's voice and mandolin are lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7SliN-82P0&ab_channel=PerryCoxPF93
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on February 14, 2024, 12:20:07 PM
How about this fingerstyle track by Vai? Clean Strat tone with barely any effects. Technically speaking this is on a ten times higher level than Mark ever was (but it doesn't mean it's ten times better musically, which is a matter of opinion). I guess my point is that just because Vai is best known for his shredding, he can play very melodically too. I am super curious as to what these guys will on Going Home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fO954zQ3Us
i prefer to show this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNhiEH13O9s
never been a major Vai fan (Satriani is a whole other story...) but here i think he really shows his melodical skills...

My favorite Vai track but the most amazing version is the one with the Dutch Metropole orchestra. That version is my all time favorite
got link?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on February 14, 2024, 04:56:12 PM
https://youtu.be/9IrWyZ0KZuk?si=36p7xR2um6XRp9o0
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on February 21, 2024, 08:28:20 PM
Just learned Hank's music shop is located in Denmark Street, AKA Tin Pan Alley in the city of a billion dreams.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on February 21, 2024, 08:44:57 PM
Just learned Hank's music shop is located in Denmark Street, AKA Tin Pan Alley in the city of a billion dreams.

"... get out"

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on February 22, 2024, 08:51:01 AM
Just learned Hank's music shop is located in Denmark Street, AKA Tin Pan Alley in the city of a billion dreams.

LOL

As far as I saw the name next thing I did was to look where it was  :lol

Seems there used to be many guitar shops in that street, something similar to the NY street where the original Rudy's shop was, and seems that nowadays only a very few survive in both streets in both cities.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 22, 2024, 10:42:29 AM
One time I was looking in the window at Hank's and Leo Sayer was doing the same.

Some sort of film crew came along and Leo started speaking to them to try to get involved with the filming.

They didn't get him involved in the filming.

I posted this earlier. :)

I sometimes have a look in the guitar shops in Denmark St if I am in London but they are always ridiculously expensive - London rents I guess.

I think MK tends to shop here more often:

https://www.newkingsroadguitars.com/

And it was featured in the documentary with Phil Cunningham from memory.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 01, 2024, 08:35:17 AM
https://www.newcastleworld.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/newcastle-united-confirm-exclusive-st-james-park-announcement-will-be-unveiled-v-wolves-4537883
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 01, 2024, 09:32:04 AM
https://www.newcastleworld.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/newcastle-united-confirm-exclusive-st-james-park-announcement-will-be-unveiled-v-wolves-4537883

I hope there is a video of it so everyone can see this great moment!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 01, 2024, 10:05:02 AM
I’ve bought a copy of it but cant see it on any streaming platform as coming soon.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 01, 2024, 11:51:29 AM
I'm very curious about how this project started, I guess Guy would tell it when he upload a diary about ir, specially since the project is built around a MK song which is a classic.

I mean, they had the idea of do a special version for the charity or the charity approached him to do it, they had the idea of use Going Home from the start or did they had several options etc etc
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 01, 2024, 03:07:40 PM
https://www.newcastleworld.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/newcastle-united-confirm-exclusive-st-james-park-announcement-will-be-unveiled-v-wolves-4537883

Nothing about the auction the guitar(s) supposedly taking place as well.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 02, 2024, 08:00:13 AM


https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/24157164.mark-knopfler-unveil-new-local-hero-version-nufc-v-wolves/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 02, 2024, 08:34:44 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3-9s5yoQEU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 02, 2024, 08:35:18 AM
He looks good in these pictures.

These glasses suit him
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 02, 2024, 09:12:27 AM
Any TV broadcasts for this match?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 02, 2024, 10:27:23 AM
Any TV broadcasts for this match?

See private message
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 02, 2024, 11:01:35 AM
I see you can download it on itunes for 99p but it’s not available until 15th
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2024, 12:00:06 PM
Any TV broadcasts for this match?

See private message

PM me as well? Were is it broadcasted?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: straitsway75 on March 02, 2024, 01:53:50 PM
Now Im working until this evening I Hope that tonight something Will be find... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: stratmad on March 02, 2024, 02:47:43 PM
Nic pics here, no video though: https://www.ireland-live.ie/news/entertainment/1437863/knopfler-excited-to-unveil-new-local-hero-track-to-50-000-newcastle-fans.html (https://www.ireland-live.ie/news/entertainment/1437863/knopfler-excited-to-unveil-new-local-hero-track-to-50-000-newcastle-fans.html)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 02, 2024, 03:05:16 PM
Nic pics here, no video though: https://www.ireland-live.ie/news/entertainment/1437863/knopfler-excited-to-unveil-new-local-hero-track-to-50-000-newcastle-fans.html (https://www.ireland-live.ie/news/entertainment/1437863/knopfler-excited-to-unveil-new-local-hero-track-to-50-000-newcastle-fans.html)

Thank you  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 02, 2024, 03:34:36 PM
It's good to see MK looking so well in these pictures.  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2024, 03:41:51 PM
GF:

Yes, I created a 2min 35 sec version for NUFC and they will play it before today’s home game. I am here with Mark now.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2024, 03:57:49 PM
Ready to record from the tv stream in a couple of minutes
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 02, 2024, 03:58:35 PM
Any TV broadcasts for this match?

See private message

Thx jbaent
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 02, 2024, 04:03:24 PM
Ready to record from the tv stream in a couple of minutes
Nice work
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 02, 2024, 04:05:16 PM
Just tuned in in time.
Saw MK and Guy. MK with his brown leather jacket and his typical hat and GF filming this.
Very cool
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2024, 04:13:06 PM
Our Local Hero with his son and Guy
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2024, 04:33:12 PM
2 minutes of going home recorded from the tv stream, with a small hickup...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 02, 2024, 04:37:29 PM
2 minutes of going home recorded from the tv stream, with a small hickup...

Thank you very much Dutchessy  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: K-alberto on March 02, 2024, 04:41:56 PM
Dutchessy, you made my day!!  :clap :clap :clap :-*
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 02, 2024, 04:57:29 PM
If anyone could PM me it would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2024, 05:06:37 PM
If anyone could PM me it would be greatly appreciated.

Its attached to my message, you can download there
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 02, 2024, 05:08:04 PM
Mp3 download on the previous page

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7991.msg177039#msg177039
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: naif on March 02, 2024, 05:09:22 PM
https://twitter.com/NUFC/status/1763942941276492011
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 02, 2024, 05:15:05 PM
https://twitter.com/NUFC/status/1763942941276492011

Wow!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 02, 2024, 05:18:25 PM
https://twitter.com/NUFC/status/1763942941276492011

Thank you, naif!     :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 02, 2024, 05:26:50 PM
Mark with great respect for Guy.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 02, 2024, 05:28:31 PM
Mark with great respect for Guy.

I thought so too.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 02, 2024, 05:51:02 PM
Best I could manage

https://youtu.be/i36fcAjmmLc?si=KMkuOP94UnlzIIgH
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 02, 2024, 06:03:26 PM
Best I could manage

https://youtu.be/i36fcAjmmLc?si=KMkuOP94UnlzIIgH

Thank you, dusty, it was nice to see MK & co enjoying themselves!    ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: naif on March 02, 2024, 06:13:24 PM
1 min officall version:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnflgVp644

sounds too good :clap :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on March 02, 2024, 06:23:19 PM
Wauw!! I can’t wait to hear the full version
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 02, 2024, 06:47:13 PM
Yes, sounds great, I wonder if Mark is playing all the track, and each artist then joins for a fill or riff?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Billy’s Tune on March 02, 2024, 06:50:26 PM
Looks like Mark has now adopted the pork pie hat!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 02, 2024, 08:08:27 PM
Thanks EVERYBODY for sharing all these nice pics and videos. You really made my day!  :clap
Glad to see Mark doing well!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 02, 2024, 08:30:14 PM
Sounds so overloaded... I don't like it. As a charity thing I hope it helps it to sell but musically, it's too much for me.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on March 02, 2024, 09:06:51 PM
Sounds so overloaded... I don't like it. As a charity thing I hope it helps it to sell but musically, it's too much for me.

I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that. Far too muddy but I guess it was kind of inevitable with all those musicians on one track, even if they aren’t all playing at the same time.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 02, 2024, 09:48:06 PM
Musically maybe really too much. But: It is charity and all those names on a MK classic is fabulous-
I will wait for the whole thing. In 2 weeks we know more
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on March 02, 2024, 09:48:41 PM
Sounds so overloaded... I don't like it. As a charity thing I hope it helps it to sell but musically, it's too much for me.

I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that. Far too muddy but I guess it was kind of inevitable with all those musicians on one track, even if they aren’t all playing at the same time.

I agree.  I kind of guessed it would sound like that; it was inevitable. 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 02, 2024, 09:56:57 PM
Sounds so overloaded... I don't like it. As a charity thing I hope it helps it to sell but musically, it's too much for me.

I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that. Far too muddy but I guess it was kind of inevitable with all those musicians on one track, even if they aren’t all playing at the same time.

I agree.  I kind of guessed it would sound like that; it was inevitable.

When I heard this longer version, I felt like I'd rather miss it altogether. I don't want to be further disappointed. I mean what a stupid idea. But it's kind of doomed from the start. Let's have 100 painters and paint one picture. Let's have 100 singers and sing one song. Let's have 100 cooks and make a single meal. It doesn't make any sense. I'd want to hear more of these artists. I'd want to hear 60 versions of the "Going Home" theme, not everything crammed in one place. Unbelievable. I pass.

I know it has 8 more minutes of guitar noodling in it, I also know that the only thing I'll feel would be "I wish that was just a duo track with *insert guitar player's name*". Like imagine it was Going Home - Mark Knopfler & Jeff Beck's version, that alone would be worth it. Other artists release duets albums, songs recorded with orchestra, jazz versions of songs or whatever. Mark has... well, this. And sometimes I wish he'd be more "basic".
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: K-alberto on March 02, 2024, 10:42:58 PM
But a movie can easily have 60 actors, a tale 60 characters... It's a good thing for a good purpose, something that never happened before in a guitarist world, if wverybody accepted maybe there must be something in it.. ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 02, 2024, 10:50:04 PM
But a movie can easily have 60 actors, a tale 60 characters... It's a good thing for a good purpose, something that never happened before in a guitarist world, if wverybody accepted maybe there must be something in it.. ;)

But a movie can last for hours! And a tale can last for 1000 pages. If you make these comparisons, it's more like a commercial with 60 actors or a short story with 60 characters. It's just... A bit overloaded. On paper, it sounds very good. On paper. So many great players, a great cause, the legendary song, everything's so great. And the comments everywhere show that. Only when you start to think about it, think how ridiculous it is, only then you start to scratch your head.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 02, 2024, 10:58:46 PM
But a movie can easily have 60 actors, a tale 60 characters... It's a good thing for a good purpose, something that never happened before in a guitarist world, if wverybody accepted maybe there must be something in it.. ;)

I wonder since you've mentioned it, if anyone rejected the offer precisely not understanding how you can have so many players on one song. Not because they don't want to support the charity, just this sheer technical nuance. I know I would think about it for at least a couple of seconds before saying yes.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 02, 2024, 10:59:25 PM
Heavens, but some of you are miserable buggers. Hers a great tune played by many of the world’s most famous musicians, to raise a ton of money for a worthwhile cause. Isn’t that enough for you?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on March 02, 2024, 11:07:55 PM
Heavens, but some of you are miserable buggers. Hers a great tune played by many of the world’s most famous musicians, to raise a ton of money for a worthwhile cause. Isn’t that enough for you?

But there’s a difference in supporting or being approving of the cause and liking the track.
I think it’s a superb cause and applaud the musicians for supporting it, but I don’t like the minute I heard of the track.

Two very different things.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 02, 2024, 11:08:19 PM
Heavens, but some of you are miserable buggers. Hers a great tune played by many of the world’s most famous musicians, to raise a ton of money for a worthwhile cause. Isn’t that enough for you?

If only the world would be so simple. If it is for you, then I envy you. How about... I don't know, artistic value? Relistenability? Do you think an album with more tracks (more of Mark's songs, for instance) would make less money and provide less enjoyment? How about some singing from all these fine folks? They have a whole bunch of great singers there too, not only guitar players. And they also made this one track for years, do you remember?

I said on paper it does sound great, and I'll buy the track to support the cause. But I have some huge concerns about the enjoyability and relistenability of this thing.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on March 02, 2024, 11:09:31 PM
But a movie can easily have 60 actors, a tale 60 characters... It's a good thing for a good purpose, something that never happened before in a guitarist world, if wverybody accepted maybe there must be something in it.. ;)

But if the 60 actors were all in the same scene and I had to keep up with what they all said, I would feel that scene was muddy.
Likewise I can follow the plot of a book (generally,) but if there were sixty characters all in one chapter…..I’d get confused.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 02, 2024, 11:37:32 PM
But a movie can easily have 60 actors, a tale 60 characters... It's a good thing for a good purpose, something that never happened before in a guitarist world, if wverybody accepted maybe there must be something in it.. ;)

But if the 60 actors were all in the same scene and I had to keep up with what they all said, I would feel that scene was muddy.
Likewise I can follow the plot of a book (generally,) but if there were sixty characters all in one chapter…..I’d get confused.

Haha, right away since you've mentioned it, I remembered "One Hundred Years of Solitude", a book you can't survive without having a family tree printed. I guess just like you can't survive this "Going Home" without a map of who played this 1 second where. Well, at least "One Hundred Years of Solitude" is a huge book and not a 9-minute song!

One thing I can tell you you don't need a map on something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3a8Seh3Cp4
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: K-alberto on March 02, 2024, 11:41:17 PM
But a movie can easily have 60 actors, a tale 60 characters... It's a good thing for a good purpose, something that never happened before in a guitarist world, if wverybody accepted maybe there must be something in it.. ;)

I wonder since you've mentioned it, if anyone rejected the offer precisely not understanding how you can have so many players on one song. Not because they don't want to support the charity, just this sheer technical nuance. I know I would think about it for at least a couple of seconds before saying yes.

I wonder ... if the greatest players accepted to be in that "filled room", or have a line in that chapter, who are we to say "oh, that is overloaded, what a terrible choice" to the likes of Sting, Springsteen, Beck, Clapton and so on... ??
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 02, 2024, 11:54:21 PM
But a movie can easily have 60 actors, a tale 60 characters... It's a good thing for a good purpose, something that never happened before in a guitarist world, if wverybody accepted maybe there must be something in it.. ;)

I wonder since you've mentioned it, if anyone rejected the offer precisely not understanding how you can have so many players on one song. Not because they don't want to support the charity, just this sheer technical nuance. I know I would think about it for at least a couple of seconds before saying yes.

I wonder ... if the greatest players accepted to be in that "filled room", or have a line in that chapter, who are we to say "oh, that is overloaded, what a terrible choice" to the likes of Sting, Springsteen, Beck, Clapton and so on... ??

It's called taking something at face value. First, we don't know at all what at least one member of this supergroup truly thinks about it. Everybody just says nice things and how great it is not to spoil the fun and the cause. Which IS great. Maybe some of them share some of our concerns. Heck, maybe even Mark himself shares them. Who knows? People are not obligated to accept any offer, even a charity one.

Second, if a bunch of famous people agree to do something it doesn't make it automatically good. If anything, these "let's fill a room with celebrities" types of things often end up in some kind of disaster. I remember all these all-star cast movies that flopped. Mark always says there's music and music business. This idea is perfect from a music business perspective. I hope it to generate as much money as possible.

Mark actually called it "embarrassment of riches", so even he's hinting it might be oversaturated a little bit. Because it can't be the other way around. If you put so many artists on one track for this amount of time, it's destined to be like this, you can't beat physics and make every one of these players shine and everybody happy with the result, there's just no way. I don't want to be Guy in this situation.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 03, 2024, 02:05:30 AM
The end product of these things isn’t really the point.

The version of Knocking on Heavens Door for Dunblane was not a good record, but it served it’s purpose.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 08:04:39 AM
The end product of these things isn’t really the point.

The version of Knocking on Heavens Door for Dunblane was not a good record, but it served it’s purpose.

Exactly. The key word is 'Charity'.

Would some of the critics on here stand by the sidelines of a charitable event yelling 'You're not running fast enough', 'Don't like the colour if your trainers', or 'The beans in your bathtub are the wrong temperature'. Of course not, that would be the hight of pedantry.

Buy it or don't, listen to it once or a thousand times. Like it or hate it, it really doesn't matter. The only thing that does is the money that this raises and the lives it will change....
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 03, 2024, 08:30:50 AM
Sounds so overloaded... I don't like it. As a charity thing I hope it helps it to sell but musically, it's too much for me.

Exactly how I felt when I heard it, but I hope it raises lots and lots of money for the charity.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 03, 2024, 08:51:26 AM
I hope that all artists mention it in their social media channels.
Latest on the release date. On amazon Germany it is sold out as a CD and vinyl for some days now
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2024, 09:00:15 AM
I hope that all artists mention it in their social media channels.
Latest on the release date. On amazon Germany it is sold out as a CD and vinyl for some days now

That's good news.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2024, 09:02:57 AM
Heavens, but some of you are miserable buggers. Hers a great tune played by many of the world’s most famous musicians, to raise a ton of money for a worthwhile cause. Isn’t that enough for you?

As a charity thing to raise as much money as it could, yes.

Musically is too much for a song.

But that's not what's important in this case.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 03, 2024, 09:11:14 AM
How can anyone make such negative comments after hearing 1 minute of such a long song? :think It is for a very good cause, Mark was visiting the children at the hospital yesterday, they were all very happy to see him and must appreciate what he is doing, so, I for one am happy too. Anything new from Mark is worthwhile in my book, so, I am looking forward to hearing the full track and not slating everything he seems to be doing at the moment!! After being so quiet on the Knopfler front for years, we are being spoiled now, so please, lets just enjoy it :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 09:35:21 AM
The end product of these things isn’t really the point.

The version of Knocking on Heavens Door for Dunblane was not a good record, but it served it’s purpose.

Exactly. The key word is 'Charity'.

Would some of the critics on here stand by the sidelines of a charitable event yelling 'You're not running fast enough', 'Don't like the colour if your trainers', or 'The beans in your bathtub are the wrong temperature'. Of course not, that would be the hight of pedantry.

Buy it or don't, listen to it once or a thousand times. Like it or hate it, it really doesn't matter. The only thing that does is the money that this raises and the lives it will change....

If there would be a fan forum for such a charity event to have discussions and opinions, and we were waiting 2 years for it to happen, while it was a top-secret project for no reason, then maybe yes, I would yell such things. I'm not living on a rainbow and I'm not a fan of seeing an army of multi-millionaires who's worth billions of dollars coming together to record a questionable $0.99 single for a charity to raise maybe 1/5 of a million at best. Embarrassment of riches.

I can equally attack the critics of the critics, as you all seem too aggressive in your comments. Chill out, it's just a charity single. At least we start to agree it's more a music business project than a music project. But Mark hates the music business, and seeing him suddenly doing music business things is just... sad. I just wish him to do better than that. Trust me, when people say they want to hear Mark Knopfler and David Gilmour playing together, this is not what they mean.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 09:45:15 AM
How can anyone make such negative comments after hearing 1 minute of such a long song? :think It is for a very good cause, Mark was visiting the children at the hospital yesterday, they were all very happy to see him and must appreciate what he is doing, so, I for one am happy too. Anything new from Mark is worthwhile in my book, so, I am looking forward to hearing the full track and not slating everything he seems to be doing at the moment!! After being so quiet on the Knopfler front for years, we are being spoiled now, so please, lets just enjoy it :)

But that's the problem. We need to pretend it's great, we need to write all these saccharine reviews praising the good cause, we need to put on our pink glasses, and we need to applaud Mark for presenting this "new version of Going Home" on a stadium even though the old version worked perfectly fine for decades. And, in my opinion, worked even better. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's again just a huge monument of missed opportunities. I agree it was quiet on Knopfler's front, but everything seems so off I just can't leave positive comments about it. I want to be honest, I don't want to be insincere.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 10:15:15 AM
As for hearing it for 1 minute. Yes, I agree it's not fair to review something based on a sample like this, but it's a good chunk of what's to come. It's a whole minute from just a few other minutes. You can already hear the quality of the mix, some artistic choices, appreciate the drums sound more, etc. And I can't see too many comments here praising the mix. I was more hopeful after the first 15-second snippet, I'll be honest. I thought, maybe the miracle happened and they made it work somehow. But no, the second snipped ruined all the hope. It's not gonna happen musically speaking. So I hope it happens business-wise at least.

The end product of these things isn’t really the point.

The version of Knocking on Heavens Door for Dunblane was not a good record, but it served it’s purpose.

How it's not good, excuse me? To me, it's one of the best versions of "Knocking on Heaven's Door" with somebody who can actually sing. And Mark's guitar is on point. And the choir is great. Maybe not the best choice of song, but at least it's not 60 guitar players noodling over a famously non-guitar tune.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 03, 2024, 10:42:54 AM
As for hearing it for 1 minute. Yes, I agree it's not fair to review something based on a sample like this, but it's a good chunk of what's to come. It's a whole minute from just a few other minutes. You can already hear the quality of the mix, some artistic choices, appreciate the drums sound more, etc. And I can't see too many comments here praising the mix. I was more hopeful after the first 15-second snippet, I'll be honest. I thought, maybe the miracle happened and they made it work somehow. But no, the second snipped ruined all the hope. It's not gonna happen musically speaking. So I hope it happens business-wise at least.

The end product of these things isn’t really the point.

The version of Knocking on Heavens Door for Dunblane was not a good record, but it served it’s purpose.

How it's not good, excuse me? To me, it's one of the best versions of "Knocking on Heaven's Door" with somebody who can actually sing. And Mark's guitar is on point. And the choir is great. Maybe not the best choice of song, but at least it's not 60 guitar players noodling over a famously non-guitar tune.

It’s all about opinions, that’s mine.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2024, 10:42:55 AM
How can anyone make such negative comments after hearing 1 minute of such a long song? :think It is for a very good cause, Mark was visiting the children at the hospital yesterday, they were all very happy to see him and must appreciate what he is doing, so, I for one am happy too. Anything new from Mark is worthwhile in my book, so, I am looking forward to hearing the full track and not slating everything he seems to be doing at the moment!! After being so quiet on the Knopfler front for years, we are being spoiled now, so please, lets just enjoy it :)

The quality of the product and the goal of the product are two very different things.

The goal is great.

The product is not.

Both things are compatible.

We can say we don't like the mess the song is with so many people playing little things all the time and at the same time wish it sells a lot because is a good cause.

I can't see where the problem is.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 03, 2024, 10:45:38 AM
The Facebook asslickers will be having a field day with this thread!

For any anonymous Facebook suck up lurkers outraged, fuck you, this is AMIT, and free speech rules supreme here  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 03, 2024, 10:48:39 AM
I hope that all artists mention it in their social media channels.
Latest on the release date. On amazon Germany it is sold out as a CD and vinyl for some days now

That's good news.

Jepp but I don't know where the problem is to get more copies in stock.
They sold 400+ CDs. But that isn't that much.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 03, 2024, 10:52:33 AM
Heavens, but some of you are miserable buggers. Hers a great tune played by many of the world’s most famous musicians, to raise a ton of money for a worthwhile cause. Isn’t that enough for you?

As a charity thing to raise as much money as it could, yes.

Musically is too much for a song.

Exactly. I don't see myself listening to that version more than 10 times.
But this version is only for the good cause and that's why it is great.
I am proud of our man and Guy. Well done.
For listening I prefer Wild Theme from LH

But that's not what's important in this case.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2024, 11:48:01 AM
Don't forget, this version takes 10 minutes!! There's going to be a lot going on. Perhaps there will be improvisations and moments that do not resemble the main theme. But the final will be powerful.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2024, 12:18:19 PM
Don't forget, this version takes 10 minutes!! There's going to be a lot going on. Perhaps there will be improvisations and moments that do not resemble the main theme. But the final will be powerful.

Personally, just listening that one minute piece makes me think that's too much people playing the same in different ways and it's kind of boring (again for me) with just one minute, I'm quite sure that I'm only listening that 10 minutes version a couple of times and probably won't never listen to it again.

But of course I'm buying all the formats and probably more than once as the charity is very important and that's actually the best of this ten minutes mess song (again, my opinion).
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2024, 12:56:23 PM
Seems MK and Guy really had a lot of fun yesterday!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 01:29:09 PM
Haha! That's of course funny. I never thought I'll see Mark laughing and holding a T-shirt with his name, what a time to be alive. It has to be one of the first times of Mark supporting football so hard? I mean he is a fan obviously and they played his song for eternity, I'm not sure I saw him on the field like this.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 03, 2024, 01:33:24 PM
Looks like Mark has now adopted the pork pie hat!

That’s not a pork pie hat :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 03, 2024, 01:57:40 PM
Looks like Mark has now adopted the pork pie hat!

That’s not a pork pie hat :)

Not remotely. It’s not quite a traditional flat cap either.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2024, 02:03:54 PM
Haha! That's of course funny. I never thought I'll see Mark laughing and holding a T-shirt with his name, what a time to be alive. It has to be one of the first times of Mark supporting football so hard? I mean he is a fan obviously and they played his song for eternity, I'm not sure I saw him on the field like this.

He said himself that he attended games and usually when he goes the team wins, lol

I even remember once when Gullit was the Newcastle manager, that Going Home was left out of the songs the team played when the players went into the pitch and he didn't like that Gullit made that but took it with a smile.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2024, 02:09:00 PM
I think Jeff Beck's solo will be unique and noticeable.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 03, 2024, 02:12:54 PM
Haha! That's of course funny. I never thought I'll see Mark laughing and holding a T-shirt with his name, what a time to be alive. It has to be one of the first times of Mark supporting football so hard? I mean he is a fan obviously and they played his song for eternity, I'm not sure I saw him on the field like this.

He said himself that he attended games and usually when he goes the team wins, lol

I even remember once when Gullit was the Newcastle manager, that Going Home was left out of the songs the team played when the players went into the pitch and he didn't like that Gullit made that but took it with a smile.

I’ve been to game at St James’s and it was a season where they decided to “modernise” and ditch Going Home. They did play it at half time.

I believe the fans complained and it was reinstated the following season.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 02:35:47 PM
Haha! That's of course funny. I never thought I'll see Mark laughing and holding a T-shirt with his name, what a time to be alive. It has to be one of the first times of Mark supporting football so hard? I mean he is a fan obviously and they played his song for eternity, I'm not sure I saw him on the field like this.

He said himself that he attended games and usually when he goes the team wins, lol

I even remember once when Gullit was the Newcastle manager, that Going Home was left out of the songs the team played when the players went into the pitch and he didn't like that Gullit made that but took it with a smile.

I’ve been to game at St James’s and it was a season where they decided to “modernise” and ditch Going Home. They did play it at half time.

I believe the fans complained and it was reinstated the following season.

If there was an award for stupidity, the guy who's cancelled Going Home from playing on Newcastle games would definitely take it. Modernise my ass!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 02:39:11 PM
The end product of these things isn’t really the point.

The version of Knocking on Heavens Door for Dunblane was not a good record, but it served it’s purpose.

Exactly. The key word is 'Charity'.

Would some of the critics on here stand by the sidelines of a charitable event yelling 'You're not running fast enough', 'Don't like the colour if your trainers', or 'The beans in your bathtub are the wrong temperature'. Of course not, that would be the hight of pedantry.

Buy it or don't, listen to it once or a thousand times. Like it or hate it, it really doesn't matter. The only thing that does is the money that this raises and the lives it will change....

If there would be a fan forum for such a charity event to have discussions and opinions, and we were waiting 2 years for it to happen, while it was a top-secret project for no reason, then maybe yes, I would yell such things. I'm not living on a rainbow and I'm not a fan of seeing an army of multi-millionaires who's worth billions of dollars coming together to record a questionable $0.99 single for a charity to raise maybe 1/5 of a million at best. Embarrassment of riches.

I can equally attack the critics of the critics, as you all seem too aggressive in your comments. Chill out, it's just a charity single. At least we start to agree it's more a music business project than a music project. But Mark hates the music business, and seeing him suddenly doing music business things is just... sad. I just wish him to do better than that. Trust me, when people say they want to hear Mark Knopfler and David Gilmour playing together, this is not what they mean.

'Questionable'? Surely this is trolling? Can you please let us know next time you do something for a good cause so we can point out all its flaws and inconsistencies....
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 02:48:16 PM
'Questionable'? Surely this is trolling? Can you please let us know next time you do something for a good cause so we can point out all its flaws and inconsistencies....

You are more than welcome. I just thought about bringing together 60 pianists to play Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 3 for charity, it should be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 03:04:03 PM
'Questionable'? Surely this is trolling? Can you please let us know next time you do something for a good cause so we can point out all its flaws and inconsistencies....

You are more than welcome. I just thought about bringing together 60 pianists to play Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 3 for charity, it should be a lot of fun.

So what about Guitars on the beach?

https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/guitars-on-the-beach 

Over 2000 people playing together for good causes. By your logic we should be criticising it because it sounds rubbish. Should we question the motives of the organisers?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 03:21:38 PM
'Questionable'? Surely this is trolling? Can you please let us know next time you do something for a good cause so we can point out all its flaws and inconsistencies....

You are more than welcome. I just thought about bringing together 60 pianists to play Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 3 for charity, it should be a lot of fun.

So what about Guitars on the beach?

https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/guitars-on-the-beach 

Over 2000 people playing together for good causes. By your logic we should be criticising it because it sounds rubbish. Should we question the motives of the organisers?

This discussion reminds me when Ralph Fiennes was asked about how it felt to put on nazi uniform on the set of Schindler's List for the first time. His answer was: It felt great, it's a very well-made, comfortable Hugo Boss uniform, you feel powerful wearing it. Now, is Ralph Fiennes a Nazi for saying that?

No, he just answers the question and separates the terms Nazi uniform from their doings. Likewise, you can look at this new Going Home version from standpoint of independent creation and a charity effort. As a charity effort, it rocks. As a creation it likely sucks, this is all I wanted to say.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 03:43:57 PM
'Questionable'? Surely this is trolling? Can you please let us know next time you do something for a good cause so we can point out all its flaws and inconsistencies....

You are more than welcome. I just thought about bringing together 60 pianists to play Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 3 for charity, it should be a lot of fun.

So what about Guitars on the beach?

https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/guitars-on-the-beach 

Over 2000 people playing together for good causes. By your logic we should be criticising it because it sounds rubbish. Should we question the motives of the organisers?

This discussion reminds me when Ralph Fiennes was asked about how it felt to put on nazi uniform on the set of Schindler's List for the first time. His answer was: It felt great, it's a very well-made, comfortable Hugo Boss uniform, you feel powerful wearing it. Now, is Ralph Fiennes a Nazi for saying that?

No, he just answers the question and separates the terms Nazi uniform from their doings. Likewise, you can look at this new Going Home version from standpoint of independent creation and a charity effort. As a charity effort, it rocks. As a creation it likely sucks, this is all I wanted to say.

Nice evasion there. You know what people say about debate/discussion when the Nazis are mentioned.

But you said a lot more than that. You questioned the motives of 'the army of millionaires' involved and claimed that this was 'a music business project'.

I still want to know, would you stand at Guitars on the beach, or a hurricane relief benefit, or even the TCT concert series itself and criticise?

I attended last years TCT and much of the music wasn't particularly to my taste but I wouldn't dream of criticising what they were doing, not for one minute....

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2024, 03:48:42 PM
Quote
As a charity effort, it rocks. As a creation it likely sucks, this is all I wanted to say.

Exactly, fully agree
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on March 03, 2024, 04:39:22 PM
The Facebook asslickers will be having a field day with this thread!

For any anonymous Facebook suck up lurkers outraged, fuck you, this is AMIT, and free speech rules supreme here  :)

Ah you said it so well  :lol :lol I couldn't agree more. If we are not to have different opinions, then what. Notice that on Face, someone has actually complained about Guy being there!  :hmm Yesterday was a very plesant surprise to me, I loved it! It was really nice to see them together, smiling and supporting eachother  :D Yesterday evening it occured to me that I hadn't expected him to play, I have fully accepted that he won't do that anymore <3

I hope this project will get massive coverage, I think everybody agrees about one thing; cancer sucks.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on March 03, 2024, 07:20:32 PM
I love the jacket MK wore in the stadium. Anyone know where I can get one like that?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on March 03, 2024, 07:35:23 PM
Just checked, it is the same as he wore in Norway in 2015  :)  and I don't think it was new then. A quality jacket, it still looks good!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2024, 08:18:29 PM
At first I thought it was the same jacket as in 2009. (PRS for Music Heritage Award)  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 08:36:25 PM
This discussion reminds me when Ralph Fiennes was asked about how it felt to put on nazi uniform on the set of Schindler's List for the first time. His answer was: It felt great, it's a very well-made, comfortable Hugo Boss uniform, you feel powerful wearing it. Now, is Ralph Fiennes a Nazi for saying that?

No, he just answers the question and separates the terms Nazi uniform from their doings. Likewise, you can look at this new Going Home version from standpoint of independent creation and a charity effort. As a charity effort, it rocks. As a creation it likely sucks, this is all I wanted to say.

Nice evasion there. You know what people say about debate/discussion when the Nazis are mentioned.

But you said a lot more than that. You questioned the motives of 'the army of millionaires' involved and claimed that this was 'a music business project'.

I still want to know, would you stand at Guitars on the beach, or a hurricane relief benefit, or even the TCT concert series itself and criticise?

I attended last years TCT and much of the music wasn't particularly to my taste but I wouldn't dream of criticising what they were doing, not for one minute....

The accent in my message wasn't on the nazis at all. If you want to accent the nazis in my message I think the problem here is not with me.

In my beliefs nothing, even religion, is safe from humour and criticism. Except, of course, for Muslims — these guys I respect a great deal, don't mess with them. Nothing sacrilegious in criticising a charity. It's done by human beings, and human beings are not perfect. The best charity is the one that's done without public attention anyway. Maybe Mark donated half of his fortune to charities like Bill Gates and we don't even know about it.

But this charity is incredibly public. I'm, like many people here, torn between appreciating the cause and appreciating the result, as I described in my previous message. I'm not criticising the cause, I'm criticising the "tool" they came up with to do the charity. And I do think it could've been done way better than just replaying an instrumental tune from 1983 with a bunch of guitar players. And better execution would actually yield MORE MONEY for the charity.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2024, 08:47:15 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 08:57:57 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.

Oh, trust me, there'll be even more wars going on after the release. Brace yourself :lol

That's okay. I think people just confuse the discussion of the cause with the discussion of the music. It's two completely different things. My whole point is you should discuss both, not focus on one aspect of it. Charities can be done the awesome way too, there are so many examples. And with music, I would almost always would rather choose a live performance than a simple recording. Imagine if Live Aid was an album, lol.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2024, 09:02:33 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.

Oh, trust me, there'll be even more wars going on after the release. Brace yourself :lol

That's okay. I think people just confuse the discussion of the cause with the discussion of the music. It's two completely different things. My whole point is you should discuss both, not focus on one aspect of it. Charities can be done the awesome way too, there are so many examples. And with music, I would almost always would rather choose a live performance than a simple recording. Imagine if Live Aid was an album, lol.

Yes it's true. I'm ready:) Sometimes I'm afraid to write something positive :) But the discussion on March 15 will be more credible.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 09:12:27 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.

Oh, trust me, there'll be even more wars going on after the release. Brace yourself :lol

That's okay. I think people just confuse the discussion of the cause with the discussion of the music. It's two completely different things. My whole point is you should discuss both, not focus on one aspect of it. Charities can be done the awesome way too, there are so many examples. And with music, I would almost always would rather choose a live performance than a simple recording. Imagine if Live Aid was an album, lol.

Yes it's true. I'm ready:) Sometimes I'm afraid to write something positive :) But the discussion on March 15 will be more credible.

Afraid to write something positive? As someone who barely survives each time after writing something negative here, I can tell you — I wish I'd find something positive to say instead :lol Life is so much easier if you just accept stuff. I just took a look at the list of charity singles in history and I honestly can't find an instrumental song in there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_record (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_record)

You can't believe how much I would want to hear a voice in Mark Knopfler's penned charity single. His voice, or somebody else's. I just want to hear a human voice...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 03, 2024, 09:16:30 PM
Aah... Living Doll by Cliff Richard and the Young Ones. Loved that one. Goes off immediately in my mind ...  ;D

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2024, 09:20:18 PM
"Afraid to write something positive? As someone who barely survives each time after writing something negative here"

You see, it works both ways:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on March 03, 2024, 09:21:45 PM
Just checked, it is the same as he wore in Norway in 2015  :)  and I don't think it was new then. A quality jacket, it still looks good!
Thanks for the heads up, but I can't find any picture of him wearing it in Norway 2015. Have you got any pictures you can share?
Looks great on him, I really want to buy a similar one!  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 09:29:13 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.

Oh, trust me, there'll be even more wars going on after the release. Brace yourself :lol

That's okay. I think people just confuse the discussion of the cause with the discussion of the music. It's two completely different things. My whole point is you should discuss both, not focus on one aspect of it. Charities can be done the awesome way too, there are so many examples. And with music, I would almost always would rather choose a live performance than a simple recording. Imagine if Live Aid was an album, lol.

Yes but as I have pointed out numerous times you weren't just criticising the music, you were criticising the motives of the people involved.
You also completely misunderstood my reply regarding your Nazi comparison. Look up Godwins law...

Oh and you still haven't really answered my question.in reference to those other charities.

My final question to you (because personally I find this discussion rather dispiriting and disappointing). You talk of tools, so I give you 2 options. One a new mk song with his best guitar work in 30 years, the other  LH. One will raise Millions of £, the other significantly less. One will save the lives of 500 kids, one 100.

The music is completely secondary here.

Which tool are you going to choose....

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 03, 2024, 09:31:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E4UAHJ_Gic
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 09:41:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E4UAHJ_Gic

Thanks for that, lovely little segment. Hopefully this will absolutely sell in bucketloads...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 03, 2024, 09:43:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E4UAHJ_Gic

Thank you too:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 10:25:21 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.

Oh, trust me, there'll be even more wars going on after the release. Brace yourself :lol

That's okay. I think people just confuse the discussion of the cause with the discussion of the music. It's two completely different things. My whole point is you should discuss both, not focus on one aspect of it. Charities can be done the awesome way too, there are so many examples. And with music, I would almost always would rather choose a live performance than a simple recording. Imagine if Live Aid was an album, lol.

Yes but as I have pointed out numerous times you weren't just criticising the music, you were criticising the motives of the people involved.
You also completely misunderstood my reply regarding your Nazi comparison. Look up Godwins law...

Oh and you still haven't really answered my question.in reference to those other charities.

My final question to you (because personally I find this discussion rather dispiriting and disappointing). You talk of tools, so I give you 2 options. One a new mk song with his best guitar work in 30 years on, the other  LH. One will raise Millions of £, the other significantly less. One will save the lives of 500 kids, one 100.

The music is completely secondary here.

Which tool are you going to choose....

The disappointment is mutual. And I don't understand your proposal. So it's: 1) A new MK song with his best guitar work in 30 years that saves 500 kids or 2) The Local Hero theme that saves 100? Or vice versa? A new song to save 100 kids or LH to save 500? Either way, it doesn't matter because we already know the premise of what they have to offer and what we can discuss as fans and should support as fans. Everybody here already said they will buy/bought the thing, regardless of whether they like it or not.

A good product or a good song will sell well. If it sells well, it performs well as a charity single. If I made a charity single, the last thing I would want to read is "This sucks, but I'll buy it to support the cause". It should be "Shut up and take my money, oh, and it's a great cause too, awesome". And I want this effect for this single too, it's just I don't get it, unfortunately. Many people do. Doesn't matter if they'll listen to it again or forget about it after a week. They see names, they drop a coin.

Even in this video with Guy, all they talk about is names, names, names, names, names, names, names, names, names.

Well, they had access to all these names, as well as the best producers, engineers, PR managers, designers, philosophers and poets, they had access to anything and everything and unlimited time (2 years is no joke), and all they came up with was one instrumental song where all eggs are literally in one basket. For me, and many other people, it was a little bit anticlimactic, to say the least. A team like this could come up with something better, and that would make more money too. They should know better, that's my point.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 03, 2024, 10:29:40 PM
Aah... Living Doll by Cliff Richard and the Young Ones. Loved that one. Goes off immediately in my mind ...  ;D

LE

I love The Young Ones, Cliff and Hank so I thought it was brilliant, then and now.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 10:36:41 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.

Oh, trust me, there'll be even more wars going on after the release. Brace yourself :lol

That's okay. I think people just confuse the discussion of the cause with the discussion of the music. It's two completely different things. My whole point is you should discuss both, not focus on one aspect of it. Charities can be done the awesome way too, there are so many examples. And with music, I would almost always would rather choose a live performance than a simple recording. Imagine if Live Aid was an album, lol.

Yes but as I have pointed out numerous times you weren't just criticising the music, you were criticising the motives of the people involved.
You also completely misunderstood my reply regarding your Nazi comparison. Look up Godwins law...

Oh and you still haven't really answered my question.in reference to those other charities.

My final question to you (because personally I find this discussion rather dispiriting and disappointing). You talk of tools, so I give you 2 options. One a new mk song with his best guitar work in 30 years on, the other  LH. One will raise Millions of £, the other significantly less. One will save the lives of 500 kids, one 100.

The music is completely secondary here.

Which tool are you going to choose....

The disappointment is mutual. And I don't understand your proposal. So it's: 1) A new MK song with his best guitar work in 30 years that saves 500 kids or 2) The Local Hero theme that saves 100? Or vice versa? A new song to save 100 kids or LH to save 500? Either way, it doesn't matter because we already know the premise of what they have to offer and what we can discuss as fans and should support as fans. Everybody here already said they will buy/bought the thing, regardless of whether they like it or not.

A good product or a good song will sell well. If it sells well, it performs well as a charity single. If I made a charity single, the last thing I would want to read is "This sucks, but I'll buy it to support the cause". It should be "Shut up and take my money, oh, and it's a great cause too, awesome". And I want this effect for this single too, it's just I don't get it, unfortunately. Many people do. Doesn't matter if they'll listen to it again or forget about it after a week. They see names, they drop a coin.

Even in this video with Guy, all they talk about is names, names, names, names, names, names, names, names, names.

Well, they had access to all these names, as well as the best producers, engineers, PR managers, designers, philosophers and poets, they had access to anything and everything and unlimited time (2 years is no joke), and all they came up with was one instrumental song where all eggs are literally in one basket. For me, and many other people, it was a little bit anticlimactic, to say the least. A team like this could come up with something better, and that would make more money too. They should know better, that's my point.

Again you missed, or chose to ignore my point. Surely the best tool is the one designed to make the most money, not the one designed with artistic integrity in mind.

'They should know better'.You've heard 20% of the tune,...

Wow....

End of discussion.

I just look forward to your  next multi million selling album. As Guy and Mark noted, just remember to leave your ego at the studio door...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 03, 2024, 10:39:42 PM
Aah... Living Doll by Cliff Richard and the Young Ones. Loved that one. Goes off immediately in my mind ...  ;D

LE

I love The Young Ones, Cliff and Hank so I thought it was brilliant, then and now.

Had me in histerics as a teen.

Instrumental break, ok Cliff, which instruments do you want us to break..

 ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 03, 2024, 10:40:50 PM
Sorry, but the premiere of the single Going Home is in two weeks. I suggest a little patience.

Oh, trust me, there'll be even more wars going on after the release. Brace yourself :lol

That's okay. I think people just confuse the discussion of the cause with the discussion of the music. It's two completely different things. My whole point is you should discuss both, not focus on one aspect of it. Charities can be done the awesome way too, there are so many examples. And with music, I would almost always would rather choose a live performance than a simple recording. Imagine if Live Aid was an album, lol.

Yes but as I have pointed out numerous times you weren't just criticising the music, you were criticising the motives of the people involved.
You also completely misunderstood my reply regarding your Nazi comparison. Look up Godwins law...

Oh and you still haven't really answered my question.in reference to those other charities.

My final question to you (because personally I find this discussion rather dispiriting and disappointing). You talk of tools, so I give you 2 options. One a new mk song with his best guitar work in 30 years on, the other  LH. One will raise Millions of £, the other significantly less. One will save the lives of 500 kids, one 100.

The music is completely secondary here.

Which tool are you going to choose....

The disappointment is mutual. And I don't understand your proposal. So it's: 1) A new MK song with his best guitar work in 30 years that saves 500 kids or 2) The Local Hero theme that saves 100? Or vice versa? A new song to save 100 kids or LH to save 500? Either way, it doesn't matter because we already know the premise of what they have to offer and what we can discuss as fans and should support as fans. Everybody here already said they will buy/bought the thing, regardless of whether they like it or not.

A good product or a good song will sell well. If it sells well, it performs well as a charity single. If I made a charity single, the last thing I would want to read is "This sucks, but I'll buy it to support the cause". It should be "Shut up and take my money, oh, and it's a great cause too, awesome". And I want this effect for this single too, it's just I don't get it, unfortunately. Many people do. Doesn't matter if they'll listen to it again or forget about it after a week. They see names, they drop a coin.

Even in this video with Guy, all they talk about is names, names, names, names, names, names, names, names, names.

Well, they had access to all these names, as well as the best producers, engineers, PR managers, designers, philosophers and poets, they had access to anything and everything and unlimited time (2 years is no joke), and all they came up with was one instrumental song where all eggs are literally in one basket. For me, and many other people, it was a little bit anticlimactic, to say the least. A team like this could come up with something better, and that would make more money too. They should know better, that's my point.

Again you missed, or chose to ignore my point. Surely the best tool is the one designed to make the most money, not the one designed with artistic integrity in mind.

'They should know better'.You've heard 20% of the tune,...

Wow....

End of discussion.

I just look forward to your  next multi million selling album. As Guy and Mark noted, just remember to leave your ego at the studio door...

"End of discussion"

"ego"

LOL
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 01:08:28 AM
I agree that some of my claims can sound outrageous, but it's all part of the discussion. And like Dusty, I'm going to defend the freedom of speech here until I fall over. I can imagine someone asking: One song in two years? Seriously? Entire Hollywood blockbusters get made two times faster than that. It feels like this new version of Going Home should be just a closing part of something bigger, like an album. But no, it is the whole thing, this is it. So then maybe Guy worked on it alone? Not possible considering the amount of people involved.

People who gang up on me while transforming this forum into a shit show every time don't understand that I'm not a grumpy 90-year-old guy who's constantly complaining about everything. How do you not notice that almost every Mark's new decision or song generates a lot of controversy, a huge amount of negative comments from a lot of different people, and nothing seems to be done perfectly these days? You might as well just shut down any discussion as it will transform into a shit show eventually as somebody gets triggered and attack people like me.

With every piece of news, you are almost guaranteed to get some major disappointment. It's not normal. It's not okay. I don't want it to be this way, and it's getting out of hand. I am seriously afraid of what will happen after the release of the album as it will divide people even further, no doubt about it. Oh, I reckon AMIT to become a huge battlefield in a month. Is it Mark getting older and caring less and less, or the world is just falling into one big hole, I don't know. But I don't like it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: koobaa on March 04, 2024, 01:51:21 AM
I feel sorry for you, man. Must be hard to see so much disturbance everywhere. Almost like folks with perfect pitch that cringe at any dissonance surrounding them.

I certainly am excited about this project and I acknowledge the time it can take to get all these big names together, not to mention huge undertaking to mix and produce it. Kudos to GF! Really looking forward to hearing the whole piece with Jeff Beck's intro.

And I absolutely don't agree that with every piece of news we are "almost guaranteed to get some major disappointment". I am super excited for the new album because I know there will be at least couple of gems on there,  as always have been. 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 07:42:39 AM
I feel sorry for you, man. Must be hard to see so much disturbance everywhere. Almost like folks with perfect pitch that cringe at any dissonance surrounding them.

I certainly am excited about this project and I acknowledge the time it can take to get all these big names together, not to mention huge undertaking to mix and produce it. Kudos to GF! Really looking forward to hearing the whole piece with Jeff Beck's intro.

And I absolutely don't agree that with every piece of news we are "almost guaranteed to get some major disappointment". I am super excited for the new album because I know there will be at least couple of gems on there,  as always have been.

Thank you! I'm excited too, it's impossible not to be excited. But the frustration is tearing me apart at the same time. This huge imbalance we have now is simply staggering. One track that was in the works for 2 years, an album with 12 songs that were in the works for 6 years, plus 13 goddamn bonus tracks, the Local Hero musical album that will be released God knows when, the Eric Hansen film that completely faded into obscurity it seems.

Then you listen to all this and understand the first two singles are kind of too personal and not super extra special... Then you realise the mystery charity project that was hyped for years is just a single instrumental track filled with guitar shredding, when you see the release strategy getting more and more ridiculous, I mean all this combined is such a weird combination of great excitement and incredible frustration never seen before.

You don't need to possess some kind of perfect pitch of disturbances to notice it all. Things are a little bit out of hand, lacking simple attention to detail sometimes. Add to this the absence of touring, Mark's [theoretical because we don't know for sure] health problems, the fact new album could be his last, and the fact that Guy is doing most of the heavy lifting these days. Guy is the man. He really can do anything. But each man's patience only goes so far.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Mossguitar on March 04, 2024, 08:20:14 AM
I feel sorry for you, man. Must be hard to see so much disturbance everywhere. Almost like folks with perfect pitch that cringe at any dissonance surrounding them.

I certainly am excited about this project and I acknowledge the time it can take to get all these big names together, not to mention huge undertaking to mix and produce it. Kudos to GF! Really looking forward to hearing the whole piece with Jeff Beck's intro.

And I absolutely don't agree that with every piece of news we are "almost guaranteed to get some major disappointment". I am super excited for the new album because I know there will be at least couple of gems on there,  as always have been.

Thank you! I'm excited too, it's impossible not to be excited. But the frustration is tearing me apart at the same time. This huge imbalance we have now is simply staggering. One track that was in the works for 2 years, an album with 12 songs that were in the works for 6 years, plus 13 goddamn bonus tracks, the Local Hero musical album that will be released God knows when, the Eric Hansen film that completely faded into obscurity it seems.

Then you listen to all this and understand the first two singles are kind of too personal and not super extra special... Then you realise the mystery charity project that was hyped for years is just a single instrumental track filled with guitar shredding, when you see the release strategy getting more and more ridiculous, I mean all this combined is such a weird combination of great excitement and incredible frustration never seen before.

You don't need to possess some kind of perfect pitch of disturbances to notice it all. Things are a little bit out of hand, lacking simple attention to detail sometimes. Add to this the absence of touring, Mark's [theoretical because we don't know for sure] health problems, the fact new album could be his last, and the fact that Guy is doing most of the heavy lifting these days. Guy is the man. He really can do anything. But each man's patience only goes so far.
I know that’s how you feel about things, and I am sorry for that. But I guess most people (even here on AMIT) are quite content. I think you should’t be too surprised or even dissappointed all the time (but hey, it’t up to you, of course! If you are dissappointed, you are). I just think most of us (at least I) don’t feel that strongly about the different choices and directions things take. I just notice them and go on. I think, for instance, that it was kind of sweet that he tried to play those first four notes of BIA on that acoustic, despite his obvious health problems. Not cringe at all (but it’s ok to feel the oposite). And the Going Home guitar hero idea is very fun I think and not that strange of a choice, even if Telegraph Road or Sultans would have been cooler choices. But MK has’t been cool since 1981, so what should we expect? But keep on posting your opinions. I love it!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2024, 08:39:02 AM
I have a Spotify playlist with MK scores that I use when working, and when listening to the Local Hero songs, couldn't help but thinking that there are several versions of Going Home in that score, "Wild theme", "The Ceilidh and the northern lights", "Whistle theme" and finally "Going Home", four different versions of the same song, and having so many musicians available with so many personal styles, they could had been divided into the different versions so their contributions could had been more noticiable and valued that three or four seconds each one during an almost 10 minutes song... they are 60 people!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 09:40:40 AM
I have a Spotify playlist with MK scores that I use when working, and when listening to the Local Hero songs, couldn't help but thinking that there are several versions of Going Home in that score, "Wild theme", "The Ceilidh and the northern lights", "Whistle theme" and finally "Going Home", four different versions of the same song, and having so many musicians available with so many personal styles, they could had been divided into the different versions so their contributions could had been more noticiable and valued that three or four seconds each one during an almost 10 minutes song... they are 60 people!

Wow, exactly. This is what I'm talking about. Obviously, Guy had tremendous trouble in mixing the track, and from what I can tell, he said in the interview he had about 50 versions of the final mix, it just blows my mind on so many levels. I can't imagine the struggle he went through. Was it necessary? And how this gets transformed into setting a Guinness world record for the most guitar players on one track? Yet another mystery.

It's again something about getting out of hand... Are you gonna do 60 versions of the same tune or try to combine it into one? And if you combine them into one, who are the ones you gonna leave out? So you need to fit them all somehow, and the length increases... You can't do a 30-minute version, so you need to do "the best of" version. I feel like this project might be VERY interesting for bonus material. But where are all these bloody bonus tracks when you need them? :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2024, 09:55:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnflgVp644

From Guy's Facebook:

Here’s a one minute segment of the Guitar Heroes track. Players in this clip include.. Mark Knopfler, Ringo Starr, Keith Urban, Zak Starkey, Sting, Eric Clapton, Joan Jett, Albert Lee, Orianthi , Ronnie Wood, Waddy Wachtel, Peter Frampton, Steve Vai , Paul Carrack,  Jonathan Cain, Joe Bonamassa and Duane Eddy…can you hear them? Pre-order and help these kids here... download

I only recognize Clapton.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 10:05:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnflgVp644

From Guy's Facebook:

Here’s a one minute segment of the Guitar Heroes track. Players in this clip include.. Mark Knopfler, Ringo Starr, Keith Urban, Zak Starkey, Sting, Eric Clapton, Joan Jett, Albert Lee, Orianthi , Ronnie Wood, Waddy Wachtel, Peter Frampton, Steve Vai , Paul Carrack,  Jonathan Cain, Joe Bonamassa and Duane Eddy…can you hear them? Pre-order and help these kids here... download

I only recognize Clapton.

I'm really sorry... I promise I'll stop jeopardising this thread and making fun of it, but I just can't stop laughing. My last piece of shit and giggles for now would be this. Here...

My photo with Mark Knopfler, Ringo Starr, Keith Urban, Zak Starkey, Sting, Eric Clapton, Joan Jett, Albert Lee, Orianthi, Ronnie Wood, Waddy Wachtel, Peter Frampton, Steve Vai, Paul Carrack, Jonathan Cain, Joe Bonamassa and Duane Eddy

(https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/8000/8108/ipcc_bluemarble_west_front.jpg)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2024, 10:24:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnflgVp644

From Guy's Facebook:

Here’s a one minute segment of the Guitar Heroes track. Players in this clip include.. Mark Knopfler, Ringo Starr, Keith Urban, Zak Starkey, Sting, Eric Clapton, Joan Jett, Albert Lee, Orianthi , Ronnie Wood, Waddy Wachtel, Peter Frampton, Steve Vai , Paul Carrack,  Jonathan Cain, Joe Bonamassa and Duane Eddy…can you hear them? Pre-order and help these kids here... download

I only recognize Clapton.

Starting drums probably Ringo Starr
00.09 Keith Urban
00.14 Eric Clapton
00.28 Albert Lee and Orianthi one after another?
00.36 Peter Frampton?

This is a total mess and probably a big dissapoinment for individual fans of each artist looking for his/her heroe playing...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 04, 2024, 12:46:12 PM
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8tqfy0?fbclid=IwAR0Nu0xh8nz-80mykcC__Gr9QyWg4MDq8KghqtFPds81x2MGoXBzaZPQLno

Best sound so far
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2024, 12:56:02 PM
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8tqfy0?fbclid=IwAR0Nu0xh8nz-80mykcC__Gr9QyWg4MDq8KghqtFPds81x2MGoXBzaZPQLno

Best sound so far

I recognized Hank Marvin part.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jabbathehut on March 04, 2024, 02:31:23 PM
Well I thought it was brilliant.Looking forward to hearing the whole thing.The effort to organise such a thing must have been immense.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 04, 2024, 02:56:32 PM
Let's give Guy some credit here, it would be a huge task for anyone to mix, but we can't honestly judge it on one minute, the people you hear here might weave in and out later, I am excited about this, it's for a GREAT cause. It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark, Slash, Vai, Orianthi etc. and how cool is it that the last track played on by Jeff Beck is a Mark Knopfler song :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on March 04, 2024, 04:34:16 PM
Let's give Guy some credit here, it would be a huge task for anyone to mix, but we can't honestly judge it on one minute, the people you hear here might weave in and out later, I am excited about this, it's for a GREAT cause. It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark, Slash, Vai, Orianthi etc. and how cool is it that the last track played on by Jeff Beck is a Mark Knopfler song :clap

Totally agree!!
Was also a nice story on the bbc of Guy about the recording and mixing process and how many different versions there were
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2024, 04:37:32 PM
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 04, 2024, 04:54:24 PM
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.

You haven't even heard the result
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 04:56:40 PM
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.

I also had to applaud the idea of playing the track on a giant stadium where you can barely make out what it is guitar that's playing, let alone recognise individual players. This is why the original version with the saxophone sounds so good, at least the sax is cutting through the crowd. I want some of the stuff that they are smoking.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2024, 05:02:31 PM
It's a great task indeed.

It's a great cause.

But the result, in my opinion, is a mess.

The first and second are independent from the third.

You haven't even heard the result

One minute of it was too much already, I'm not sure I could cope with almost 10 minutes of that mess...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 04, 2024, 05:07:28 PM
What kind of mess?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 05:46:01 PM
What kind of mess?

What the 1-minute preview and a longer version played on the stadium showed us is that it's a "wall of sound" type of thing, with little lines all over the place. Sometimes even harmonising, that's how many guitar parts are there, with the main problem being overabundance of sounds and difficulty of recognising the players unless you have a map to follow along.

Which was rather predictable considering the amount of players involved. While it seems to sound like fun to a lot of people, equally as many people would rather call it a "mess" of sounds. A very dividing track, and I don't think the full version and even mighty Jeff Beck's contribution will change the situation. If they brag about it so much, my doubts increase.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 04, 2024, 05:58:30 PM
GF:

Identification could be tricky. A map is needed which I will share at the right time.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 04, 2024, 06:05:16 PM
Actually I never liked Going Home too much.

So an almost 10 minutes version with a lot of people playing licks non stop, sometimes doubling them... As I said, one minute of it sounds for me like too much, I can't wait to listen to 9 minutes more of that, lol.

But it's a great cause and I bought all formats, digital, LP, cd and cd + Blu-ray.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 06:07:17 PM
GF:

Identification could be tricky. A map is needed which I will share at the right time.

Well, exactly. To me, the idea of having a map to navigate a song sounds like explaining a joke... And like the famous quote says, "Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process." Or, and like jbaent and I said many times, it has nothing to do with the cause itself. Buy it, support it, donate to it, they are doing a great job [with the charity].

If anything, being so disappointed by the recording makes me extra sad as I can see both Mark and Guy being utterly happy about it. I want to join the fun or would want to, but can't. I have a microscopic hope that the full version will change my mind, but these hopes are miniscule thanks to teasers and prior experience.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 04, 2024, 06:28:20 PM
Let's give Guy some credit here, it would be a huge task for anyone to mix, but we can't honestly judge it on one minute, the people you hear here might weave in and out later, I am excited about this, it's for a GREAT cause. It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark, Slash, Vai, Orianthi etc. and how cool is it that the last track played on by Jeff Beck is a Mark Knopfler song :clap

Totally agree!
Guy really did an absolut fantastic job with the mixing. Sure, I've only heard the short version so far, but it sounded great to me.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 04, 2024, 06:30:34 PM
Actually I never liked Going Home too much.

So an almost 10 minutes version with a lot of people playing licks non stop, sometimes doubling them... As I said, one minute of it sounds for me like too much, I can't wait to listen to 9 minutes more of that, lol.

But it's a great cause and I bought all formats, digital, LP, cd and cd + Blu-ray.

Interesting point about Going Home. I tried to remember when I purposefully listened to it the last time... I mean it's such a loud and energetic track, I wouldn't listen to it just at my leisure, I would much prefer something like "Wild Theme" or a SINGLE electric guitar version of Going Home. Not a terrible fan of the saxophone version either, and of course like many, the only association I have with it is the last song on Mark Knopfler's show. So it's a mixed bag even emotion-wise. One thing you can be certain it's must be atomically emotional for Mark. As long as he's happy, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 04, 2024, 06:33:53 PM
"It shows the respect Mark has in the world of music that all these people have participated, and lots of them who I never thought would be associated with Mark"

Yes, and also the respect of many great musicians for MK.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on March 04, 2024, 06:57:15 PM
I think many of us feel what the most active ones here have already described, that the result is "doomed" to be chaotic, but the cause is so good and the effort so high that you just got to love it! I guess we'll see the full effect after the  release, but so far, which artists have posted something? I don't follow a lot of guitarists. Clapton has nothing, same with Springsteen. Facebook suggested a Springsteen fanpage where it was mentioned. One of the replies was "I didn't know he (Mark) had a solo career".
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 04, 2024, 07:02:56 PM
These things aren't always a mess, multiple instruments and or voices can work together In music, just look at prog, Ommadawn Part 2 has over 1600 guitar overdubs at the start and it works, lots of Mike Oldfield's works has lots of things weaving inin and out. Again, I am going to reserve judgement until I can hear the complete track.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: stratmad on March 04, 2024, 08:31:45 PM
Whatever you may think of the music, at least the project has produced a unique photo:

I wonder what the 24 stands for... any football experts here?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 04, 2024, 08:54:38 PM
2024?

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on March 04, 2024, 10:19:02 PM
My thought too, Newcastle‘s player Almiron has that number.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolleyway Man on March 06, 2024, 08:07:42 PM
HEADS UP! Mark will be on The One Show on BBC One in the next half hour.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 06, 2024, 08:49:06 PM
HEADS UP! Mark will be on The One Show on BBC One in the next half hour.

Another phone call?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolleyway Man on March 06, 2024, 08:51:28 PM
HEADS UP! Mark will be on The One Show on BBC One in the next half hour.

Another phone call?

No. The piece was filmed on Friday and/or Saturday when Mark was in Newcastle.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 06, 2024, 09:25:10 PM
Youtube link is coming. Short but nice piece. Also some small new part of Going Home
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 06, 2024, 09:31:24 PM
Youtube link is coming. Short but nice piece. Also some small new part of Going Home

Indeed, I'm working on it.
A little cutting to do and then it will be here in a few minutes...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 06, 2024, 09:46:33 PM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 06, 2024, 09:54:08 PM
Thanks a lot for making it available so fast. Very nice.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 06, 2024, 10:07:26 PM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Great document. Thank you  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 06, 2024, 10:26:17 PM
Thanks a lot for making it available so fast. Very nice.

LE

Mark is as sweet and innocent as a teddy bear, watching this guy I want to forget all my grumpiness and any dissatisfaction with his stuff. Humble, funny, genius, as always. Thanks for sharing, we need more of this. Nobody's perfect, LOL!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 06, 2024, 10:33:23 PM

Starting drums probably Ringo Starr
00.09 Keith Urban
00.14 Eric Clapton
00.28 Albert Lee and Orianthi one after another?
00.36 Peter Frampton?

This is a total mess and probably a big dissapoinment for individual fans of each artist looking for his/her heroe playing...

I agree for EC at 00.14, but I 'd rather think of Albert Lee at 00.09
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on March 06, 2024, 11:28:29 PM
I really don’t understand why some people are complaining so much about this project. As Mark said, it’s bigger than the artists, it’s a cause. It’s like one of those guitars that get signed by dozens of musicians for charity and someone says the signatures ruined the instrument. Come on, guys.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 07, 2024, 12:27:55 AM
I really don’t understand why some people are complaining so much about this project. As Mark said, it’s bigger than the artists, it’s a cause. It’s like one of those guitars that get signed by dozens of musicians for charity and someone says the signatures ruined the instrument. Come on, guys.

I think the secretness of it played at least some part in the strange welcome of the project. I don't understand why everything needs to be so cryptic these days in the era of social media. Just say it's a reworking of "Going Home" on day 1 and nobody will have their expectations broken. You can also release additional teasers/videos/interviews in the process (of 2 years!) getting more attention to the cause, instead of suddenly releasing it.

I don't know, there are many ways to deal with the situation. This time and build-up was barely used at all, and the effect after the release will be weaker I'm sure. Their goal is to raise as much money as possible right?

On top of that, the musical qualities of the "product" also matter. Who said it doesn't matter only because it's a good cause? It's Mark Knopfler's most famous instrumental composition and his legacy if you want, and the first time in years that he worked with so many other artists, dream collaborations right there. David Gilmour's wife posted pictures with him and Mark, people went nuts — finally, they are working together! Mark and Sting are working together! Dogs and cats are living together.

As the random guy said in the recent video upon listening to the track, this new version is hip and cool but he'd better stick to the original. See, mixed opinions even in the freaking BBC documentary promoting the project.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Eddie Fox on March 07, 2024, 02:00:31 AM
I went through that phase but it didn’t last long. The fact that I like very much what I’ve heard helps I guess. As for those guys, they are Newcastle fans, it’s pretty easy to guess why they like the original better.

I dunno, I’m just happy Mark still cares. That means a lot to me, more than anything at this point. I love the guy.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2024, 09:18:26 AM
When I watched the video the first time I thought, that guy looks very like Jermaine Jenas, could it be him? and when the video arrive to the end is clearer that he's Jenas!

I knew he was a pundit on "match of the day", didn't know he made it at other tv shows!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on March 07, 2024, 11:18:41 AM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Great document. Thank you  :thumbsup
why have they never updated the 120million records sold? that number has been shared for over a decade now! must tell Guy to do something about that!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 07, 2024, 11:29:02 AM
I think the 120m record figure was the DS figure thrown around in the late 90s.

I wonder how many solo records he has sold. 20m?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 07, 2024, 11:36:42 AM
I think the 120m record figure was the DS figure thrown around in the late 90s.

I wonder how many solo records he has sold. 20m?

Another mystery to me is why the media keep saying MK was raised in Blyth which is impossible if, as he says himself, he walked to primary school and secondary school in Gosforth past the guitar shop at the end of Salters Road - 12 miles away from Blyth!  I blame wikipedia and lazy journalism!   ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 07, 2024, 11:38:16 AM
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

According to this, far less than 20m. Don't know how realistic these figures are, though but found them on Wikipedia more or less similar.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pottel on March 07, 2024, 01:43:44 PM
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

According to this, far less than 20m. Don't know how realistic these figures are, though but found them on Wikipedia more or less similar.

LE
some weird numbers there. having a hard time believing that. does it include strams of digital sales?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 07, 2024, 01:54:22 PM
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

According to this, far less than 20m. Don't know how realistic these figures are, though but found them on Wikipedia more or less similar.

LE
some weird numbers there. having a hard time believing that. does it include strams of digital sales?

According to wiki Golden Heart had one million sales in Europe alone, you would think it would have sold a bit in other parts of the world?

The sales of the solo albums from STP on seem pretty low to me but perhaps they are accurate... I just think of the 00s as a time when people were still buying CDs.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 07, 2024, 02:17:53 PM
I've just unearthed a list of DS/MK albums from MK News in 1998.  Golden Heart was the only solo album at that time and apparently it had sold  1,557,196 copies, so presumably a lot more have been sold by now.

Missing...   (NHBs) sold 1,738,511
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 07, 2024, 03:03:35 PM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Lovely. Very heartwarming.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 07, 2024, 03:45:12 PM
I think the One Show clip just shows Mark in a very good light, he took he time to visit the children in the Hospital, and that is what this whole thing is about, in this particular case it really does not matter if you like the track or not, prefer the original, moan about the mix etc, it is the children that it is helping that matters, let's just praise Mark, Guy and all the musicians involved. :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 07, 2024, 05:48:53 PM
GF:

There are 67 players on the track. It was two years work.

I count and count and I always get 66. With MK ;)

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2024, 07:05:55 PM
GF:

There are 67 players on the track. It was two years work.

I count and count and I always get 66. With MK ;)

What about Guy?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 07, 2024, 07:07:15 PM
GF:

There are 67 players on the track. It was two years work.

I count and count and I always get 66. With MK ;)

What about Guy?

With Guy 66
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 07, 2024, 07:13:58 PM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Thank you so much for sharing!  :thumbsup
Mark is such a lovely and humble person with a big heart who really cares about others. Very admirable!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 07, 2024, 07:26:26 PM
GF:

There are 67 players on the track. It was two years work.

I count and count and I always get 66. With MK ;)

What about Guy?

With Guy 66

The list (checked several including Wikipedia) says 66 so Guy probably made a mistake or he counted in Sir Peter Blake as a player by mistake.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MaxG on March 09, 2024, 04:26:19 AM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Thank you so much for sharing!  :thumbsup
Mark is such a lovely and humble person with a big heart who really cares about others. Very admirable!

Thanks, I watched this and it is heartwarming and I admit it suddenly choked me up seeing MK there supporting such a cause and dealing with a disease that so many are going thru and I'm not sure if this is appropriate here or to personal, but something I am also dealing with.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 09, 2024, 08:57:21 AM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Thank you so much for sharing!  :thumbsup
Mark is such a lovely and humble person with a big heart who really cares about others. Very admirable!

Thanks, I watched this and it is heartwarming and I admit it suddenly choked me up seeing MK there supporting such a cause and dealing with a disease that so many are going thru and I'm not sure if this is appropriate here or to personal, but something I am also dealing with.

You can say anything you like here. Anyway, I wish you the very best in what you are going through.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MaxG on March 09, 2024, 11:40:20 AM

You can say anything you like here. Anyway, I wish you the very best in what you are going through.
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Thanks Dusty. Music, and MK's music helps us thru our lives over all the years. I realised I haven't posted a lot here but have been an active follower all the time.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 09, 2024, 01:37:50 PM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Thank you so much for sharing!  :thumbsup
Mark is such a lovely and humble person with a big heart who really cares about others. Very admirable!

Thanks, I watched this and it is heartwarming and I admit it suddenly choked me up seeing MK there supporting such a cause and dealing with a disease that so many are going thru and I'm not sure if this is appropriate here or to personal, but something I am also dealing with.

You can say anything you like here. Anyway, I wish you the very best in what you are going through.

It's definitely not too personal man. This video and cause affects even people who are [yet] not dealing with it and acts as a reminder nobody's safe and sound all the time, there always somebody who suffers more than you. In Mark's case, it's literally billions of people, and he's a real local hero to step up and defend them. And remember that Mark's friend John beat cancer through all the positivity and glass-half-full approach Mark is so famous for, and which he telegraphs through his music.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MaxG on March 09, 2024, 02:11:38 PM

It's definitely not too personal man. This video and cause affects even people who are [yet] not dealing with it and acts as a reminder nobody's safe and sound all the time, there always somebody who suffers more than you. In Mark's case, it's literally billions of people, and he's a real local hero to step up and defend them. And remember that Mark's friend John beat cancer through all the positivity and glass-half-full approach Mark is so famous for, and which he telegraphs through his music.
[/quote]

Thanks Pavel, and for your amazing work on MK's songs. I have messaged you before the inspiration they gave me and I have been fortunate to have seen MK in Moscow in 2008 one of the times I was visiting Russia.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 09, 2024, 06:44:51 PM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Thank you so much for sharing!  :thumbsup
Mark is such a lovely and humble person with a big heart who really cares about others. Very admirable!

Thanks, I watched this and it is heartwarming and I admit it suddenly choked me up seeing MK there supporting such a cause and dealing with a disease that so many are going thru and I'm not sure if this is appropriate here or to personal, but something I am also dealing with.

You can say anything you like here. Anyway, I wish you the very best in what you are going through.

It's definitely not too personal man. This video and cause affects even people who are [yet] not dealing with it and acts as a reminder nobody's safe and sound all the time, there always somebody who suffers more than you. In Mark's case, it's literally billions of people, and he's a real local hero to step up and defend them. And remember that Mark's friend John beat cancer through all the positivity and glass-half-full approach Mark is so famous for, and which he telegraphs through his music.

Yes, music is a great therapist that helps us through good times and bad.
I have a quote here on my pinboard that says „Music is the food of life.....Play on!"
Shakespeare is supposed to have said that, but I don't know if it's true. Anyway, I like it. 

Stay strong and all the best to you, MaxG.  :wave

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MaxG on March 09, 2024, 11:12:42 PM
Here you go:

https://youtu.be/pEGTD48jFfc

Thank you so much for sharing!  :thumbsup
Mark is such a lovely and humble person with a big heart who really cares about others. Very admirable!

Thanks, I watched this and it is heartwarming and I admit it suddenly choked me up seeing MK there supporting such a cause and dealing with a disease that so many are going thru and I'm not sure if this is appropriate here or to personal, but something I am also dealing with.

You can say anything you like here. Anyway, I wish you the very best in what you are going through.

It's definitely not too personal man. This video and cause affects even people who are [yet] not dealing with it and acts as a reminder nobody's safe and sound all the time, there always somebody who suffers more than you. In Mark's case, it's literally billions of people, and he's a real local hero to step up and defend them. And remember that Mark's friend John beat cancer through all the positivity and glass-half-full approach Mark is so famous for, and which he telegraphs through his music.

Yes, music is a great therapist that helps us through good times and bad.
I have a quote here on my pinboard that says „Music is the food of life.....Play on!"
Shakespeare is supposed to have said that, but I don't know if it's true. Anyway, I like it. 

Stay strong and all the best to you, MarxG.  :wave

thanks Rick!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on March 10, 2024, 07:51:18 AM
Total Guitar April 2024 issue has a feature on MKs Guitar Heroes and interview with Steve Lukather.
I have upped ONLY this part here:
https://we.tl/t-5vyQTlP2K3

Interesting to read(Lukather was told to play whatever he wanted!) and some nice things said about MK and,especially,Jeff Beck.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: stratmad on March 10, 2024, 11:56:13 AM
Amazing! Thank you very much!! :) :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Markus on March 10, 2024, 12:09:18 PM
Thank you. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 10, 2024, 12:12:48 PM
Total Guitar April 2024 issue has a feature on MKs Guitar Heroes and interview with Steve Lukather.
I have upped ONLY this part here:
https://we.tl/t-5vyQTlP2K3

Interesting to read(Lukather was told to play whatever he wanted!) and some nice things said about MK and,especially,Jeff Beck.
Enjoy.

many thanks !  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 10, 2024, 02:02:21 PM
I wish you a lot of strength, MaxG:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MaxG on March 11, 2024, 05:08:01 AM
I wish you a lot of strength, MaxG:)

thanks Robson!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 11, 2024, 07:05:47 PM
Total Guitar April 2024 issue has a feature on MKs Guitar Heroes and interview with Steve Lukather.
I have upped ONLY this part here:
https://we.tl/t-5vyQTlP2K3

Interesting to read(Lukather was told to play whatever he wanted!) and some nice things said about MK and,especially,Jeff Beck.
Enjoy.

Nice! Thank you.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 12, 2024, 02:30:44 PM
They must have said the same thing to Joe Bonamassa. He didn't sound to excited by it. I wonder if all the artists have recorded there own version of the track all the way through? maybe some will release a cover versin of their own in the future.

https://www.cltampa.com/music/qanda-before-clearwater-show-joe-bonamassa-discusses-new-album-and-mark-knopfler-collaboration-17421954
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 13, 2024, 04:06:55 PM
Peter Frampton just posted a link to the single on his YouTube channel.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on March 13, 2024, 05:38:34 PM
Guy has appeared on a podcast promoting it:
https://www.bandwidthconversations.com/

and just for conspiracy theorists Chris White appeared on this podcast in 22? discussing the great Dire Straits Experience:)
https://www.bandwidthconversations.com/chris-white
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 13, 2024, 05:55:55 PM
It's interesting and entertaining. It's nearly an hour about his complete career with let's say the last 15 min about the project. I learned that the vinyl version is shorter, only 8 minutes something, and thw CD and/or the streaming services will get the full 9 min version. I also learned that MK wrote 26 songs for that musical but I am  sure you all knew that already.

And Chris was there in 2021.

LE
 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 13, 2024, 07:58:44 PM
Guy's interview is very good, I wish he would do it more often. I laughed at the part where he defended and justified "fake" Synclavier sounds that give an extra dimension to the soundtrack music they did back then, that's some impressive justification. I'd say it sounds fake, period. Like midi or something. And it would sound much better with a real orchestra, I mean how couldn't it be? Some things are old school, some things are outdated.

At the same time, he openly says/jokes that money is the best part of fame. This Guy guy is Interesting...

How about another huge revelation that Mark wasn't a fan of big stadium shows? I mean we knew that already, but it's another sign that even Mark is no stranger to doing things he's not in love with for a bigger goal, akin to putting a DS stickers to sell more records, etc... Nobody's perfect.

I listened to Guy's song "Shagpile Bed" and it's quite reMARKable how it's similar to Mark's production. Replace Guy's voice with Mark's, add his guitar and you have basically a contemporary Mark's song. I think Guy truly has a lot of freedom, not simply looking at things the same way Mark does.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 13, 2024, 08:10:05 PM
Guy has appeared on a podcast promoting it:
https://www.bandwidthconversations.com/

and just for conspiracy theorists Chris White appeared on this podcast in 22? discussing the great Dire Straits Experience:)
https://www.bandwidthconversations.com/chris-white

Great podcast with Guy.
Something interesting, this podcast was recorded 3 weeks ago. Around the 26 minute mark Guy says the band are coming up next week to record more songs.
So that would be around two weeks ago...
More music afther One Deep River coming ?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 13, 2024, 08:44:51 PM
Or is this from November? Than it could be The Boy sessions Guy is talking about...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 13, 2024, 09:29:23 PM
Guy has appeared on a podcast promoting it:
https://www.bandwidthconversations.com/

and just for conspiracy theorists Chris White appeared on this podcast in 22? discussing the great Dire Straits Experience:)
https://www.bandwidthconversations.com/chris-white

Haha, speaking of Chris White, about the OES tour, he said, "It was one of the happiest tours I've ever been on. Everybody on stage was happy for the whole tour". This is of course completely in contradiction to other "reviews" of this tour from band members.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 13, 2024, 09:33:12 PM
And who to believe?  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 13, 2024, 10:30:27 PM
And who to believe?  :)

Both Chrises seem to have an opposite reaction, however, their roles were quite different too. The drummer keeps the heartbeat and is the loudest band member, and the saxophone player is pretty much a soloist. Thanks To Chris W (another one) we know he was under a lot of pressure in terms of playing on max volume level and looking for guitar cues all the time and otherwise "suffered" more from Mark's "perfectionism" (huge air quotes) and was more aware of Mark's grumpiness and overall situation. Not everybody can notice all these things, not everybody would care to.

I never believed that a tour like this could be an unhappy business anyway. Stressful, yes, serious, yes, personally difficult for Mark, yes. But playing songs like this, with a band like this, in this meticulously rehearsed fashion, for so many people and sold-out crowds, with a leader like this, with a team like this, it's every musician's dream. Personal life problems, relationships, and stress levels aside, it's great songs played by a great band. And saying this was unhappy is like flying in first class and saying you were unhappy because of the turbulence. It was still first class though.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 14, 2024, 11:25:41 AM
Tomorrow it is. Are we excited??! I am  :D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on March 14, 2024, 11:29:53 AM
Tomorrow it is. Are we excited??! I am  :D

Yes!! I am looking forward to this release
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 14, 2024, 11:37:08 AM
Tomorrow it is. Are we excited??! I am  :D

Nobody received it yet? Wouldn't be surprised if stores already have it. :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 14, 2024, 11:38:21 AM
Do you have seen it in the store somewhere? Able to buy?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 14, 2024, 11:50:49 AM
Do you have seen it in the store somewhere? Able to buy?

No, my local store says they will have it tomorrow, I just assume that shops get stock in before the official release date and some just sell them...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 14, 2024, 12:19:19 PM
I ordered the vinyl edition  from a smaller online shop and got informed this morning that they shipped it so it probably will arrive tomorrow. It's the first time I order there and it's a test for me also as i ordered the babyblue vinyl limited Edition also there. Will see if they manage to get it to me in time.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 14, 2024, 01:16:29 PM
"How about another huge revelation that Mark wasn't a fan of big stadium shows? I mean we knew that already, but it's another sign that even Mark is no stranger to doing things he's not in love with for a bigger goal, akin to putting a DS stickers to sell more records, etc... Nobody's perfect"

More and more people wanted to see Dire Straits, so stadium concerts were inevitable.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Silvertown on March 14, 2024, 01:17:30 PM
"How about another huge revelation that Mark wasn't a fan of big stadium shows? I mean we knew that already, but it's another sign that even Mark is no stranger to doing things he's not in love with for a bigger goal, akin to putting a DS stickers to sell more records, etc... Nobody's perfect"

More and more people wanted to see Dire Straits, so stadium concerts were inevitable.

 :thumbsup Indeed. Maybe somebody would still choose only small venues, but think about the criticism after that...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 14, 2024, 01:18:33 PM
Tomorrow it is. Are we excited??! I am  :D

Yes, and it's very  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Junkie Doll on March 14, 2024, 02:28:04 PM
Tomorrow it is. Are we excited??! I am  :D
Very excited! A plethora of incredible, world-renowned musicians collaborating for a good cause is applaudable.

I hope it inspires a lot of people throughout the world to donate a little bit extra money to the funds.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: localhero1986 on March 14, 2024, 06:16:44 PM
How long is this track by the way? A telegraph road like version? ;D i hope to get my CD tomorrow. Quite a busy Knopfler-music start of the year. 1x DK and 3x MK record releases!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 14, 2024, 06:18:54 PM
9:50
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 14, 2024, 06:34:03 PM
How long is this track by the way? A telegraph road like version? ;D i hope to get my CD tomorrow. Quite a busy Knopfler-music start of the year. 1x DK and 3x MK record releases!

It made me think... Imagine all these guitar players jamming on the Telegraph Road outro sequence!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 14, 2024, 07:09:57 PM
Depends what you buy. Guy told us in that Podcast that the vinyl edition is the "main thing" but only 8 min something while the digital version is this 9:50. There is obviuosly also a radio edit which is around 3 to 4 min long. And that's it. The vinyl has an etched b-side but no more music on it.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 14, 2024, 07:12:59 PM
Depends what you buy. Guy told us in that Podcast that the vinyl edition is the "main thing" but only 8 min something while the digital version is this 9:50. There is obviuosly also a radio edit which is around 3 to 4 min long. And that's it. The vinyl has an etched b-side but no more music on it.

LE

I ordered CD. Why is the vinyl version shorter?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 14, 2024, 07:15:23 PM
I don't know.

Maybe it needed to be ready earlier because of vinyl ordering situation and stuff and they had to take the version they had at that time. Or it is just a reason to buy online nevertheless even if you have bought the vinyl edition.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 14, 2024, 07:50:17 PM
On this page is only the time of the Digital version. I will be very angry if the CD version is shorter  >:(

https://markknopflersguitarheroes.tmstor.es/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 14, 2024, 09:08:22 PM
it seems some people recieved it today :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/mark.knopfler.fans/posts/7389501851095361/
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 14, 2024, 09:16:19 PM
Yeah, still no leak, thats a first  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 12:25:13 AM
Its on spotify now!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 15, 2024, 12:29:43 AM
Just listened to it on Tidal.

Quite an undertaking to put that together! I hope it will collect a lot of money, but I doubt I will listen to it more than once. My head was about to explode by the end LOL
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 15, 2024, 01:06:33 AM
John McLaughlin... breathtaking
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: kaleo74 on March 15, 2024, 01:20:27 AM
First leak :

https://youtu.be/sCMCw0ug6ds?si=nt6aZC1TiiQH99EY

I’ll comment later …
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 15, 2024, 01:30:23 AM
Blimey, theirs alot going on.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jabbathehut on March 15, 2024, 01:55:50 AM
i challenge you to listen to this and not air guitar
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Hoops McCann on March 15, 2024, 02:09:43 AM
Eh, it was better than I was expecting. Must have been a bit of a nightmare to mix.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: richardmu on March 15, 2024, 02:23:22 AM
what I find interesting, the greats - Beck, Marvin, Gilmour, May and Clapton are so obvious. We will never have the like of these people again in our lifetimes. Also recognisable are Vai and Satriani who I am not major fan of these days but easily hear them with their trademarks.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: natork on March 15, 2024, 04:01:47 AM
Once you hear Jeff Beck playing the intro of “My Heart Will Go On” right on the beginning of the song, you can’t unhear it😆
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 15, 2024, 04:22:56 AM
Overall an interesting, positive listen. Guy has definitely captured the essence of the original. From a first listen it seems to have more power/grit than the original.

Negatives,  the end of the track, well let's just say that it was an 'interesting' choice to end in that manner. It's either artistic genius or Guy couldn't be arsed to finish it properly  ;D

There will always be something special about that tune for me in its bittersweet melancholy. You could play it on a kazoo and it would still move me.

Will definitely listen again....
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: straitsway75 on March 15, 2024, 04:56:54 AM
I Like It so much, emotional intro...maybe I too heavy on final minutes, but GREAT.
I buyed CD, not found Blu ray, . Someone have a Bluray copy
for me? :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Junkie Doll on March 15, 2024, 07:05:32 AM
A beautiful result! I like it!

Would've loved a "who's playing what" guide.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 15, 2024, 07:10:02 AM
Once you hear Jeff Beck playing the intro of “My Heart Will Go On” right on the beginning of the song, you can’t unhear it😆

Lol! Same way The Rocks and the Thunder from Local Hero sounds a bit like Terminator theme.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 15, 2024, 07:25:04 AM
Definitely a one-time listen for me and all my suspicions from hearing the snippets were confirmed, almost nothing to add. Wished for a longer intro from Jeff Beck instead of cutting him unceremoniously like that. I just wonder if bonus material will be released and will be ironically more popular than the main thing.

If they can do something like mix and release 1 proper duet with Mark a month, allowing more time and space to enjoy these players, a shorter, more "digestible" track and a better thing for famous guitar players to share with their fans instead of asking them to play aural Where's Waldo which I'm not interested playing in the slightest.

It makes it a never-ending project really, because it relies not on the total number of guitar players, but simply on the fact of the arrival (or remote recording) of a new one and always feels fresh, giving more exposure to Cancer Trust, collecting more money. Anyway, so many opportunities to do it better it's almost insulting. A huge mountain of disappointment.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: localhero1986 on March 15, 2024, 08:21:44 AM
Still waiting for my copy but listened via spotify. A very nice song indeed! Has a nice 80’s guitarhero style in it when guitar solos had to be played above 20kHz and a minimum of 400 notes per bar. Just great! :clap ;D

But if these artists ate capable of recording this, why not take it next level and record a 10 minute version of Done with Bonaparte? ;D ;D ;D :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on March 15, 2024, 08:51:18 AM
It’s hard to recognize the artists.
It’s OK for MK, David Gilmour, Hank Marvin, Jeff Beck, Satriani, but the others. There are so many guitar sounds that recognisable players like Sonny Landreth or Detek Trucks are difficult to hear!
But I love this track, especially the intro !
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 15, 2024, 08:55:39 AM
First leak :

https://youtu.be/sCMCw0ug6ds?si=nt6aZC1TiiQH99EY

I’ll comment later …

not sure if it was a leak, it was on MK's official channel already :

https://youtu.be/f_KWnAoPckk
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 08:55:46 AM
Tom Morello is also clear towards the end, but for example, where is Bruce? Or Slash?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Maxx on March 15, 2024, 08:57:09 AM
I Like It so much, emotional intro...maybe I too heavy on final minutes, but GREAT.
I buyed CD, not found Blu ray, . Someone have a Bluray copy
for me? :)

I really enjoyed the heavy part in the final minutes. Never have or will a MK song sound rockier than this.  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 15, 2024, 09:01:25 AM
Massive coverage in today’s Times. A picture of Mark in DS days is the cover of Times 2 (inaccurately labelled as from the year 2000) then a big article by Paul Sexton. And a separate article where Times journalists name their favourite guitarists on the record.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 15, 2024, 10:05:57 AM
My first thought after listening to the CD that just arrived this morning ...wow, sounds like an anthem coming straight from the heart of so many great musicians for all people in need.
Amazing record! It's much better than I had expected.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Millionaire Blues on March 15, 2024, 10:11:07 AM
Truly remarkable achievement from Guy, Mark and all the other musicians.
Sounds incredible, a testament to what is possible with guitar / production technology.
So refreshing to hear other great musicians take / melodic lines on the beauty that is 'Going Home'.
Bravo...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: privinvest on March 15, 2024, 10:22:58 AM
Massive coverage in today’s Times. A picture of Mark in DS days is the cover of Times 2 (inaccurately labelled as from the year 2000) then a big article by Paul Sexton. And a separate article where Times journalists name their favourite guitarists on the record.

Here's the article
https://archive.is/lMIrR

and the original link
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-mark-knopfler-assembled-the-greatest-supergroup-in-music-history-mp7px723t
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on March 15, 2024, 10:25:37 AM
Who plays these little notes around 0 min 45´ ?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 10:38:31 AM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 15, 2024, 10:47:56 AM
I listen to it once while driving to work, I intended to listen it a second time but the first one made me feel so nervous with that mess of noises that stopped it and put the radio

When at home and relaxed will give it another try that would be probably the last one.

But hey, what's important is this is for a good cause.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 15, 2024, 10:48:47 AM
Just noticed Burt Lancaster on the cover, lol.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 15, 2024, 10:54:46 AM
Just noticed Burt Lancaster on the cover, lol.

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 15, 2024, 10:56:31 AM
It’s hard to recognize the artists.
It’s OK for MK, David Gilmour, Hank Marvin, Jeff Beck, Satriani, but the others. There are so many guitar sounds that recognisable players like Sonny Landreth or Detek Trucks are difficult to hear!
But I love this track, especially the intro !

I'd say Derek Trucks is around 6-6:30
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 15, 2024, 10:58:36 AM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

I 'd say Brian May is around 7-7:20
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: FenderBender on March 15, 2024, 11:09:47 AM
Just noticed Burt Lancaster on the cover, lol.

And Peter Reigert. Haven’t spotted Peter Capaldi yet, guess he was not available for the recording, lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on March 15, 2024, 11:16:32 AM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

I 'd say Brian May is around 7-7:20
I’d say just after, at 7’30
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Junkie Doll on March 15, 2024, 11:27:50 AM
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
Could very well be Springsteen indeed, but there are other parts that sound Springsteenesque too.

Steve Lukather said in the Guitar Heroes interview:
Quote
I knew that the track was stuffed from top to bottom, so I had to figure out a way to play over all of that. I kinda figured I should stay outta the way, and I came up with some cool rhythm parts and stuff like that. I said, 'Seems like everyone else is playing all this crazy stuff.' And I appreciated that, and my thought was to do something a little lower key.
Can anyone find these parts?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 15, 2024, 11:44:24 AM
Of course I had to listen a second time  ;D

I like the intro the most. Jeff's playing is of course the highlight, but the way the guitars are sprinkled everywhere during the buildup in the intro is just beautiful. Like twinking stars. Love it.

I also like it when it gets rocking towards the end; the main, middle section feels a little flat, to be honest. The whole thing lacks some oomph, and I also think the main featured guitarist at any given moment should have been louder in the mix. More balls.

But I have to say, those 9:30 minutes go by quickly. I was really curious how this possibly could work, but it does. Again, incredible job by Guy.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 3Strats on March 15, 2024, 11:53:28 AM
I got my copy from the local HMV at 10:00 this morning, I was surprised to see only 2 CDs in the rack, one of which I bought (I didn't check the vinyl). My first thought is that you have to forget about the original version. That is probably so ingrained in our memories as "perfect" that it's not fair to compare it. If you can do that, and be open to some different tones, it's an incredible piece of work by Guy to mix all those different artists and styles into one tune. Admittedly there are a couple of places where people have gone a bit "off piste" with the melody, but that's their style and why you shouldn't compare it to the original. I'll be listening to it more than once or twice!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 11:56:47 AM
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
Could very well be Springsteen indeed, but there are other parts that sound Springsteenesque too.

Steve Lukather said in the Guitar Heroes interview:
Quote
I knew that the track was stuffed from top to bottom, so I had to figure out a way to play over all of that. I kinda figured I should stay outta the way, and I came up with some cool rhythm parts and stuff like that. I said, 'Seems like everyone else is playing all this crazy stuff.' And I appreciated that, and my thought was to do something a little lower key.
Can anyone find these parts?

5.45 maybe? The acoustic rhythms
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 15, 2024, 12:13:18 PM
Curious who plays slide from 6:00 to 6:30. I'm thinking Ry Cooder, but not sure.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on March 15, 2024, 12:14:01 PM
Could it be Sonny Landreth at 5.51’ ?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on March 15, 2024, 12:17:26 PM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/mark-knopfler-local-hero-newcastle-28823176?fbclid=IwAR3aG2ZcQtJbfw8Jq3eKWy9x2Qs6Rx14LjZ3HA-x2sDQ4Sc4d24nNSx-IUA


Number One iTunes charts.  Go Mark!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Junkie Doll on March 15, 2024, 12:19:22 PM
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
Could very well be Springsteen indeed, but there are other parts that sound Springsteenesque too.

Steve Lukather said in the Guitar Heroes interview:
Quote
I knew that the track was stuffed from top to bottom, so I had to figure out a way to play over all of that. I kinda figured I should stay outta the way, and I came up with some cool rhythm parts and stuff like that. I said, 'Seems like everyone else is playing all this crazy stuff.' And I appreciated that, and my thought was to do something a little lower key.
Can anyone find these parts?

5.45 maybe? The acoustic rhythms
Could be!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 15, 2024, 12:41:55 PM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/mark-knopfler-local-hero-newcastle-28823176?fbclid=IwAR3aG2ZcQtJbfw8Jq3eKWy9x2Qs6Rx14LjZ3HA-x2sDQ4Sc4d24nNSx-IUA


Number One iTunes charts.  Go Mark!

My band got to number 6 in the iTunes country chart.

I think we sold about 30 downloads :)

Not diminishing MK's achievement but I don't think many people download from iTunes anymore...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 15, 2024, 12:44:19 PM
Some of the 'heroes' are almost instantly recognizable.
But, man... John McLaughlin. I can hear his part all day.
I am a big fan of his work.
The guy (82yo) is a completely out-of-the-box.

The final result is MUCH better than i expected.
The song never gets tired.
Sound incredible (Maybe the best mix/master from GF/BG ever)

Thank you.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 15, 2024, 12:45:26 PM
Curious who plays slide from 6:00 to 6:30. I'm thinking Ry Cooder, but not sure.

I bet Sonny
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 15, 2024, 12:46:27 PM
Some of the 'heroes' are almost instantly recognizable.
But, man... John McLaughlin. I can hear his part all day.
I am a big fan of his work.
The guy (82yo) is a completely out-of-the-box.

The final result is MUCH better than i expected.
The song never gets tired.
Sound incredible (Maybe the best mix/master from GF/BG ever)

Thank you.

Where is John M.'s part?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 15, 2024, 12:55:35 PM
I enjoyed it very much, especially the intro with Jeff Beck, but was disappointed that it ended so abruptly.   I have listened three times so far, but intend to keep listening. 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 15, 2024, 12:57:46 PM

Where is John M.'s part?

Starts at 00:42
Then again ate 00:52
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: kaleo74 on March 15, 2024, 12:57:58 PM
Definitely a one-time listen for me and all my suspicions from hearing the snippets were confirmed, almost nothing to add. Wished for a longer intro from Jeff Beck instead of cutting him unceremoniously like that. I just wonder if bonus material will be released and will be ironically more popular than the main thing.

If they can do something like mix and release 1 proper duet with Mark a month, allowing more time and space to enjoy these players, a shorter, more "digestible" track and a better thing for famous guitar players to share with their fans instead of asking them to play aural Where's Waldo which I'm not interested playing in the slightest.


The same goes for me, a one-time listen. I stopped being interested the day I learned that it would be a collaboration for ONE song. For me, it's like a big sandbox where lots of kids came to play, run and scream, ... too much information for me, I'd have loved an album with all those stars, but beyond all that, beyond my little personal whim, I'm glad I bought the CD and contributed a tiny bit to the cause.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on March 15, 2024, 12:59:21 PM
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/mark-knopfler-local-hero-newcastle-28823176?fbclid=IwAR3aG2ZcQtJbfw8Jq3eKWy9x2Qs6Rx14LjZ3HA-x2sDQ4Sc4d24nNSx-IUA


Number One iTunes charts.  Go Mark!

My band got to number 6 in the iTunes country chart.

I think we sold about 30 downloads :)

Not diminishing MK's achievement but I don't think many people download from iTunes anymore...

I did, but I'm totally not down with the cool gang.   ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 15, 2024, 01:17:30 PM

Where is John M.'s part?

Starts at 00:42
Then again ate 00:52

Thank you. I'm not familiar with JM's music, but those little runs there got my attention. Beautiful stuff.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on March 15, 2024, 01:22:08 PM
Who is 4:30-4:38? It's beautiful!

6:40-6:48 Derek Trucks?

Overall, I'm super surprised with the result. It's not boring and the flow is great.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 15, 2024, 01:52:09 PM
This may not be popular but the only bit I want to be over is Hank Marvin. It slows it down and I’ve never been a fan of his sound. Although I appreciate his legendary and influential status.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 01:55:41 PM
GF about the diary

I will probably leave it until next week when the video is out which we are still fine tuning.


Video coming
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Kris-b on March 15, 2024, 02:26:48 PM
Great!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 02:31:06 PM
GF:

Yes, the upcoming video really, really helps.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: kaleo74 on March 15, 2024, 02:31:21 PM
GF about the diary

I will probably leave it until next week when the video is out which we are still fine tuning.


Video coming

A video makes more sense than the audio itself.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 15, 2024, 02:38:17 PM
Seeing our enthusiasm about the new LH...
Well, here at this forum we got audio engineer, drummers, bass players, keyboard player and a lot of guitar players.

Can we made a collab on a DS/MK song?
Remote recording, nothing fancy, just for fun.
I made a bunch of collabs during the pandemic, it's really fun.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: K-alberto on March 15, 2024, 02:53:11 PM
Listened to it. Listened again and again and…. WOW!! That crescendo, that crescendo, that crescendo all the 9 minutes long is something unbelieveble, a pur joy to listen. I have no sense of repetition, only the curiosity of "what's going to happen now"… I still can't help crying every time i listen to it, especially the setting up of the song for the first 3 minutes… such an insane beauty.
Never thought it would be such a high point.

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 03:25:14 PM
Seeing our enthusiasm about the new LH...
Well, here at this forum we got audio engineer, drummers, bass players, keyboard player and a lot of guitar players.

Can we made a collab on a DS/MK song?
Remote recording, nothing fancy, just for fun.
I made a bunch of collabs during the pandemic, it's really fun.

You can better create a new topic for this and try to set this up. Sounds like a cool idea!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Beryl on March 15, 2024, 03:37:58 PM
The only good thing about this mess is the cause. Otherwise, it's such a demented idea and it's so overstuffed and long that even kind of ruins for me the magic of the original composition.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 15, 2024, 03:40:33 PM
I got my copy from the local HMV at 10:00 this morning, I was surprised to see only 2 CDs in the rack, one of which I bought (I didn't check the vinyl). My first thought is that you have to forget about the original version. That is probably so ingrained in our memories as "perfect" that it's not fair to compare it. If you can do that, and be open to some different tones, it's an incredible piece of work by Guy to mix all those different artists and styles into one tune. Admittedly there are a couple of places where people have gone a bit "off piste" with the melody, but that's their style and why you shouldn't compare it to the original. I'll be listening to it more than once or twice!

Exactly! It will be easier that way. Great version. Lots of positive energy when listening to Going Home 2024. 10 minutes? That's not possible. It's over too quickly  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 15, 2024, 04:21:11 PM
Seeing our enthusiasm about the new LH...
Well, here at this forum we got audio engineer, drummers, bass players, keyboard player and a lot of guitar players.

Can we made a collab on a DS/MK song?
Remote recording, nothing fancy, just for fun.
I made a bunch of collabs during the pandemic, it's really fun.

I'm in !  :thumbsup :wave
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 15, 2024, 04:23:32 PM

Here is my article on the french media "franceinfo"

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/mark-knopfler-reunit-plus-de-60-musiciens-sur-un-seul-morceau_6425878.html

it's a shame that we have to wait until next week for Guy's infos and the video. I would have put it in my article otherwise
But we can't wait until next weet to publish such an article
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 15, 2024, 04:25:33 PM
Seeing our enthusiasm about the new LH...
Well, here at this forum we got audio engineer, drummers, bass players, keyboard player and a lot of guitar players.

Can we made a collab on a DS/MK song?
Remote recording, nothing fancy, just for fun.
I made a bunch of collabs during the pandemic, it's really fun.

I'm in !  :thumbsup :wave

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8664.0
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: cannibals on March 15, 2024, 04:27:14 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/guitar-heroes-going-home-mark-knopfler-b2513204.html
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 15, 2024, 05:05:58 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/guitar-heroes-going-home-mark-knopfler-b2513204.html

Strange that she didn’t think names like Clapton and Springsteen worth headlining.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on March 15, 2024, 05:07:25 PM
In the Netherlands its number 1 in the iTunes download store  :clap :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: TJ on March 15, 2024, 05:08:57 PM
Roger Daltrey?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 15, 2024, 05:09:21 PM
I got my copy from the local HMV at 10:00 this morning, I was surprised to see only 2 CDs in the rack, one of which I bought (I didn't check the vinyl).
I posted this on Guy’s forum earlier. HMV seem to have got their ordering level very seriously wrong:-


“Absolutely terrific coverage in today’s Times. But a slightly sad story – I happen to be staying in central London, and popped into the famous (and recently reopened) HMV store on Oxford Street as it opened. No publicity for the record, two copies of the CD (one of which I bought) and about six of the vinyl. Seems to me there’s going to be a lot of unmet demand – a real shame.”

That’s a shame - Guy’s response.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 15, 2024, 05:19:41 PM
I got my copy from the local HMV at 10:00 this morning, I was surprised to see only 2 CDs in the rack, one of which I bought (I didn't check the vinyl).
I posted this on Guy’s forum earlier. HMV seem to have got their ordering level very seriously wrong:-


“Absolutely terrific coverage in today’s Times. But a slightly sad story – I happen to be staying in central London, and popped into the famous (and recently reopened) HMV store on Oxford Street as it opened. No publicity for the record, two copies of the CD (one of which I bought) and about six of the vinyl. Seems to me there’s going to be a lot of unmet demand – a real shame.”

That’s a shame - Guy’s response.

I ordered the vinyl from my local HMV yesterday and my order was accepted, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!   
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 15, 2024, 05:36:26 PM
Its No.1 on Amazon UK. Both the vinyl and CD. Although the vinyl is now looking sold out in most places online.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 15, 2024, 05:43:23 PM
My local record store has the vinyl copy behind the counter for me to collect.

A bit annoyed the vinyl is a shorter version though... although the art is nice so great to have a big copy of that.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: privinvest on March 15, 2024, 05:47:55 PM
some missing guitarists i wish were here: jimi page, richard thompson, keith richards
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: El Macho on March 15, 2024, 05:53:26 PM
some missing guitarists i wish were here: jimi page, richard thompson, keith richards

Also Steve Philips, Dan Auerbach, Tommy Emmanuel
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 15, 2024, 06:01:05 PM
some missing guitarists i wish were here: jimi page, richard thompson, keith richards

Jimmy went.
But, he cannot play one single note that was detected or 'in time'
Jimmy's 'no note' technique is astonishing.

#irony #ihateledzeppelin #jimmyfail
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 15, 2024, 06:10:13 PM
There will always be someone missing and the song is long anyway.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: kaleo74 on March 15, 2024, 06:50:00 PM

Here is my article on the french media "franceinfo"

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/mark-knopfler-reunit-plus-de-60-musiciens-sur-un-seul-morceau_6425878.html

it's a shame that we have to wait until next week for Guy's infos and the video. I would have put it in my article otherwise
But we can't wait until next weet to publish such an article

Great article JF thanks for sharing, I agree with you, they should have released the video before or at the same time so it make sense!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 15, 2024, 06:52:44 PM
The top comment on YouTube: "If ever a song needed a video, this is it"

Guy Fletcher: "We don’t have footage of the players"

I mean...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 15, 2024, 06:54:53 PM
The top comment on YouTube: "If ever a song needed a video, this is it"

Guy Fletcher: "We don’t have footage of the players"

I mean...

Can't believe nobody thought about that as a booster for sales...

Where are the professionals when you need them? LOL
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 15, 2024, 07:03:44 PM
The top comment on YouTube: "If ever a song needed a video, this is it"

Guy Fletcher: "We don’t have footage of the players"

I mean...

Can't believe nobody thought about that as a booster for sales...

Where are the professionals when you need them? LOL

I think videos in these things are even more important than audio, it's incredibly sad there'll be no video with players in action. Everybody has a phone now that can shoot at least Full HD, maybe 4K and even 8K cinematic video. Mark recorded in front of the green screen for the Dion collaboration. It's not that difficult, I shot the majority of my videos on YouTube with various iPhones starting with the SE in 2016.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 15, 2024, 07:20:49 PM
I’ve listened to it a few times now and I thought I’d go back and listen to the original. I found myself filling in the various licks from this version in my head. Not saying I prefer it to the original but its got some oomph in it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: kaleo74 on March 15, 2024, 07:27:07 PM
The top comment on YouTube: "If ever a song needed a video, this is it"

Guy Fletcher: "We don’t have footage of the players"

I mean...

Can't believe nobody thought about that as a booster for sales...

Where are the professionals when you need them? LOL

I think videos in these things are even more important than audio, it's incredibly sad there'll be no video with players in action. Everybody has a phone now that can shoot at least Full HD, maybe 4K and even 8K cinematic video. Mark recorded in front of the green screen for the Dion collaboration. It's not that difficult, I shot the majority of my videos on YouTube with various iPhones starting with the SE in 2016.

And I'll add that it would have been smart to release this during the pandemic when everyone else was releasing this kind of song played remotely, I'm sure it would have had a big impact even before the announcement of the new album, I understand however that it wasn't easy to have everyone available to do it, but well, as I said above, there's too much information, our hero is slow and likes to take his time, but here, many things at once, too much information kills information!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 15, 2024, 09:31:31 PM
A paper clipping..
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 15, 2024, 09:33:22 PM
I’ve listened to it a few times now and I thought I’d go back and listen to the original. I found myself filling in the various licks from this version in my head. Not saying I prefer it to the original but its got some oomph in it.

I'm with you, I still think the original is amazing along with the Live versions we have all heard over the years but the 2024 version is beautiful...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 09:35:27 PM
Curious who plays slide from 6:00 to 6:30. I'm thinking Ry Cooder, but not sure.

Sonny Landreth from 5.51 to 6.30
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 15, 2024, 09:51:04 PM
Curious who plays slide from 6:00 to 6:30. I'm thinking Ry Cooder, but not sure.

Sonny Landreth from 5.51 to 6.30

Possible. It sounds like the middle pickup on a Strat, which Cooder never uses.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 15, 2024, 09:53:29 PM
It was posted on Sonnys Facebook
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 15, 2024, 10:05:33 PM
A paper clipping..

 :thumbsup Thank you
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: privinvest on March 15, 2024, 10:14:10 PM
hey chatgpt, decipher who is playing when in this record? then create a collage from the archive videos of guitarists. can you do it? attaboy 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: herlock on March 15, 2024, 10:35:22 PM
Oh god, this bad ass endless version is so gorgeous! I am playing it again and again and again... So great to have this in 2024! A dream comes true, Mark playing with David Gilmour! And Hank! And Bruce! And Pete! And Brian!...

Best version ever. Why they didn't film it is beyong me. The video would be out of this world! But I'm so happy with the sound that I forgive that! Thanks Mark and all guitar heroes for this wonderful gift!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: shortfin on March 15, 2024, 11:55:13 PM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

Who can find the Italian Zucchero (who is not even a guitarist...)?
I am raffling a box of five original Italian pizzas.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 16, 2024, 12:17:40 AM
Or the harmonica of Roger Daltrey  ???
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 16, 2024, 10:02:27 AM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

Who can find the Italian Zucchero (who is not even a guitarist...)?
I am raffling a box of five original Italian pizzas.

I think Guy once said that he did some "hummm" background vocals  :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 16, 2024, 11:37:09 AM
I am really enjoying listening to this track, almost 10 minutes goes past really quickly, which is a sign of good things. I have to say I was not that excited by the Jeff Beck intro, it's not bad, but I was expecting a more gentle beginning as there was bigger stuff to come, but, when Mark came in all was good. I am struggling to hear who's who for most of it, I am enjoying some of the acoustic stuff in it, anyone have any idea of here Satriani and Vai are? just wondering in there is any tapping involved as you would expect from them. Overall, it's really good, Guy must take a LOT of credit for mixing this all, and the production work. Nothing is as good as the original and no-one can play it as good as Mark, but, it is all good to have a new version and for a really great cause. I can't remember Mark getting so much coverage in the first few months of this year for a very long time. I guess you all know who I would think is missing from this track among others, but, it really doesn't matter. Guy Fletcher :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Iron Hand on March 16, 2024, 11:50:34 AM
Did anyone get the CD/Blu-Ray version they ordered? I'm asking because over on QuadraphonicQuad, people are consternated that it was sold out so quickly and not ever showing as available for US customers.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 16, 2024, 11:58:39 AM
I am struggling to hear who's who for most of it, I am enjoying some of the acoustic stuff in it, anyone have any idea of here Satriani and Vai are?

around 7:53-8:00, it sounds a little bit like Satriani or Vai...or ist Morello with the whammy ? :think

the wah around 8:00 could be also Satriani... or Frampton ? or Bonamassa ?  :think :think
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: shortfin on March 16, 2024, 12:58:35 PM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

Who can find the Italian Zucchero (who is not even a guitarist...)?
I am raffling a box of five original Italian pizzas.

I think Guy once said that he did some "hummm" background vocals  :think

Seriously?
In any case, Mark played on a track on Zucchero's 2016 album (Ci si arrende) and I think Mark wanted to reciprocate the guest appearance.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 16, 2024, 01:27:33 PM
I am struggling to hear who's who for most of it, I am enjoying some of the acoustic stuff in it, anyone have any idea of here Satriani and Vai are?

around 7:53-8:00, it sounds a little bit like Satriani or Vai...or ist Morello with the whammy ? :think

the wah around 8:00 could be also Satriani... or Frampton ? or Bonamassa ?  :think :think

Thats Tom Morello
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: ds1984 on March 16, 2024, 02:48:42 PM
Well there are too much guitarists on this track to allow the necessary time to enjoy each one playing.
I mean each should have at least 50 seconds of performing time.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 16, 2024, 03:24:49 PM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

Who can find the Italian Zucchero (who is not even a guitarist...)?
I am raffling a box of five original Italian pizzas.

I think Guy once said that he did some "hummm" background vocals  :think

Seriously?
In any case, Mark played on a track on Zucchero's 2016 album (Ci si arrende) and I think Mark wanted to reciprocate the guest appearance.

They played together in the late 90s on the Sun Records thing.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 16, 2024, 03:31:03 PM
Should we play who is who? :P

I will start, my guess (could be totally wrong)

00.00 to 0.20 Jeff Beck
Then MK himself during the whole intro (part at 2.50 is also MK)
1.18- 1.45 David Gilmour (or also around 2.00?)
3.00 Eric Clapton
3.50 - 4.30 Hank B Marvin
5.48 Brian May
6.55 Bruce Springsteen? (wild guess)
7.50 Tom Morello

Sting on bass is very obvious  ::)  ;)

Who can find the Italian Zucchero (who is not even a guitarist...)?
I am raffling a box of five original Italian pizzas.

I think Guy once said that he did some "hummm" background vocals  :think

Seriously?
In any case, Mark played on a track on Zucchero's 2016 album (Ci si arrende) and I think Mark wanted to reciprocate the guest appearance.

Mark also played in the song "Who will the next fool be?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 16, 2024, 04:36:24 PM
Vinyl arrived today. Hard paper inner sleeve which is far too tight and you literally feel how you damage the record with the first pulling out. With liner notes by Paul Sexton, very dirty record, noisy pressing. Etching is the Palm tree pic. Very loud recording with a lot of oomph. Not my cup of tea. I really hope the new album and the EP will show up in better condition. "Loudest"track that has ever been recorded in the name of MK.

But it's for a ... et cetera et cetera...

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 16, 2024, 04:45:18 PM
Produced by GZ Media in Czech Republic.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Mossguitar on March 16, 2024, 05:11:34 PM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 16, 2024, 05:17:35 PM
Produced by GZ Media in Czech Republic.

LE

Oh no.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Matchstickman on March 16, 2024, 05:40:15 PM
Hmm, this 9-minute thing was very unexpected, and fun in a way. But the way it comes across, as a part hard rock cover of Local Hero, with guitars constantly wailing in the background, to me sounds cluttered and distracting.

It's amazing that so many guys showed up, or sent a tape. Presumably, this thing got a life of its own after a while, with people not wanting to miss out. Or simply to help with the good cause. Or both  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 16, 2024, 06:17:25 PM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy.

You mean "Guy Fletcher is cool"? Don't think Mark has been that involved to be honest, apart from playing his parts and handing his address book to Guy LOL
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Mossguitar on March 16, 2024, 06:30:22 PM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy.

You mean "Guy Fletcher is cool"? Don't think Mark has been that involved to be honest, apart from playing his parts and handing his address book to Guy LOL
No, I mean MK. I’m not into conspiracy or fantacy
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 16, 2024, 06:55:23 PM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy.

You mean "Guy Fletcher is cool"? Don't think Mark has been that involved to be honest, apart from playing his parts and handing his address book to Guy LOL
No, I mean MK. I’m not into conspiracy or fantacy

Haha! Good observation about Guy. It's crazy how much he's doing nowadays—writing diaries, answering questions, recording and producing albums, doing charity. The only thing he (seemingly) wasn't part of was the guitar auction, but he still was a part of it providing photos and information. Instead of blue plaques inside the British Grove Studios canteen, there should be a statue erected for Guy, jokes aside he's a monster.

Mark's music has never been so dividing though, it's not just mixed opinions but—absolute godification of this "historic recording" on the one hand, and never listening to this creation ever again on the other hand. Jokes aside, I often think it's a good idea to open two different topics, one with praise and the other with less optimistic (though it has nothing to do with optimism) opinions.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 16, 2024, 07:00:53 PM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy.

You mean "Guy Fletcher is cool"? Don't think Mark has been that involved to be honest, apart from playing his parts and handing his address book to Guy LOL
I’m not into conspiracy or fantacy

Me neither
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Junkie Doll on March 16, 2024, 07:29:03 PM
At 9:15, is that Guy himself on the piano for a second?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 16, 2024, 07:31:10 PM
Ok, I finally listened.

First the positives.

I loved the music. I just love this tune and honestly could have had another nine minutes. Couldn’t really tell who was who except MK and Duane Eddy but in all honesty after a couple of minutes I stopped trying and was just enjoying the tune. The cover is fantastic and the etching on side b is very cool.

The negatives.

As LE has noted, the mastering is ridiculously loud. It sounds mushy as hell. Can’t say I’ve ever heard a vinyl record as bad as this.

The vinyl itself was crackly and nasty. GZ are truly awful. I’m currently listening to a Gene Pitney album from 1964 and it’s better than this brand new release despite being SIXTY years old. Jesus Christ.

The ending. What the hell was that? Such a sloppy half arsed ending.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Matchstickman on March 16, 2024, 07:36:26 PM

The ending. What the hell was that? Such a sloppy half arsed ending.

The ending is anti-climactic, to say the least. First a sudden and weak ending, especially for a song of such length, and then a few random noises after that. Very odd.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: caci99 on March 16, 2024, 07:43:11 PM
I am impressed. Going home is such a lovely piece of music and it is one of those fitting tunes that every one can enjoy working on it.
Lovely, listening to it constantly. Would love to decode who is playing by listening to it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 16, 2024, 07:43:54 PM
There is a short paragraph about the ending in the liner-notes. Have it not at hand right now but it was some sort of weird explanation.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 16, 2024, 07:59:36 PM
I am impressed. Going home is such a lovely piece of music and it is one of those fitting tunes that every one can enjoy working on it.
Lovely, listening to it constantly. Would love to decode who is playing by listening to it.

After the first listen, I recognized David Gilmour the fastest :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 16, 2024, 08:17:49 PM
I’m amused by all the complaints about the vinyl quality. Apart from the obviously superior bigger LP sleeve, why oh why would you? My CD (you can read about my purchase at HMV Oxford St earlier in this thread, other HMVs even worse it seems) hasn’t even been played yet because Qobuz’s 96/24 version sounds just fine, neither too loud nor at all crackly. And for some reason it has more music than the vinyl (nine minutes not at all challenging, even for vinyl). A smug digital fan writes!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 16, 2024, 08:31:51 PM
A smug digital fan writes!

I bought the record so more money would go to Teenage Cancer. Your failure to do so means a cancer hospital somewhere probably can’t quite afford to buy a radiography machine.

Not so smug now are you matey boy! ;)

(In all seriousness I buy digital as well. But given the artwork the larger format is nice in this case.)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 16, 2024, 08:40:07 PM
OK, fair point. But I’ll make a charitable donation rather than buy the vinyl, only a small part of the cost benefitting the charity.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 16, 2024, 09:17:51 PM
OK, fair point. But I’ll make a charitable donation rather than buy the vinyl, only a small part of the cost benefitting the charity.

Was only pulling your leg.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 16, 2024, 09:33:55 PM
Yes, well, my tongue was firmly in my cheek. But I gave up vinyl circa 1985 and frankly don’t miss it. (Digital is a lot better now than it was then.)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 16, 2024, 09:53:11 PM
Would love to decode who is playing by listening to it.

me too. I am impatient to see Guy's video with all names animated while the tune si playing
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 16, 2024, 11:50:47 PM
Yes, well, my tongue was firmly in my cheek. But I gave up vinyl circa 1985 and frankly don’t miss it. (Digital is a lot better now than it was then.)

Digital was fine in 1985, they got the CD right 40 years ago.

I’ll need to take your word on hi res, years of playing in bands has no doubt lost my capacity for hearing those frequencies, along with good old ageing.

But I’d be very surprised if Qobuz had a master with better dynamic range than the vinyl. It’s just mixed that way. I asked Guy a while back about why MKs solo albums lost dynamic range and he said he doesn’t care about it.

You either notice it or you don’t.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolleyway Man on March 17, 2024, 12:33:02 AM
Ok, I finally listened.

First the positives.

I loved the music. I just love this tune and honestly could have had another nine minutes. Couldn’t really tell who was who except MK and Duane Eddy but in all honesty after a couple of minutes I stopped trying and was just enjoying the tune. The cover is fantastic and the etching on side b is very cool.

The negatives.

As LE has noted, the mastering is ridiculously loud. It sounds mushy as hell. Can’t say I’ve ever heard a vinyl record as bad as this.

The vinyl itself was crackly and nasty. GZ are truly awful. I’m currently listening to a Gene Pitney album from 1964 and it’s better than this brand new release despite being SIXTY years old. Jesus Christ.

The ending. What the hell was that? Such a sloppy half arsed ending.

Frustrating that they’ve gone back to GZ Media for this release, but perhaps the records are cheaper to produce that way? I don’t know. The record I pre-ordered from the official store was warped. Thankfully I managed to obtain a second copy from HMV (the last one they had in stock) and that one is perfectly flat and sounds great. But GZ Media are extremely unreliable where vinyl quality is concerned. I hope the One Deep River discs are being produced elsewhere.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2024, 12:42:14 AM
Yeah was just wondering about that. Will be pissed off if I pay £90 and the records are crap.

I went CD for the live box rather than risk it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolleyway Man on March 17, 2024, 01:01:43 AM
Yeah was just wondering about that. Will be pissed off if I pay £90 and the records are crap.

I went CD for the live box rather than risk it.

The records in the vinyl edition of the Live set were thankfully produced by a different plant - Optimal in Germany I believe. So far as I’m aware, the quality has been a lot better.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2024, 09:19:57 AM
Yeah was just wondering about that. Will be pissed off if I pay £90 and the records are crap.

I went CD for the live box rather than risk it.

The records in the vinyl edition of the Live set were thankfully produced by a different plant - Optimal in Germany I believe. So far as I’m aware, the quality has been a lot better.

Good to hear, I just couldn’t be bothered risking it when the CDs sound great at a quarter of the cost!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 17, 2024, 09:57:38 AM
The ending. What the hell was that? Such a sloppy half arsed ending.

There is a short paragraph about the ending in the liner-notes. Have it not at hand right now but it was some sort of weird explanation.

LE

"Weird" is the word that perfectly describes the whole situation :lol

I'm curious what these liner notes said about the ending. Probably something like "This was the only part that was played by Ringo Starr and we didn't want to cut it out"?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 17, 2024, 10:06:58 AM
The ending. What the hell was that? Such a sloppy half arsed ending.

There is a short paragraph about the ending in the liner-notes. Have it not at hand right now but it was some sort of weird explanation.

LE

"Weird" is the word that perfectly describes the whole situation :lol

I'm curious what these liner notes said about the ending. Probably something like "This was the only part that was played by Ringo Starr and we didn't want to cut it out"?

This was Guy's answer to a question on his forum about the ending:

"Ah yes, the drum hits. That was my worry at NUFC. I think they missed it too but wanted to offer it to the capable hands of a certain Ringo Starr."

Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 17, 2024, 10:20:02 AM
This, from Paul Sexton, I was referring to:

"You talk about the vibe of Ringo and Zak together?"
"That's why I wanted the end like that, just that bish-bash-bosh on the kit. That sums it to me in many ways, just the spirit of the thing. "

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Iron Hand on March 17, 2024, 10:30:39 AM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy. (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji481.png)(http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji450.png)

You mean "Guy Fletcher is cool"? Don't think Mark has been that involved to be honest, apart from playing his parts and handing his address book to Guy LOL
Guy even said "this one really was all my work"  ;D
I asked Guy a while back about why MKs solo albums lost dynamic range and he said he doesn’t care about it.

You either notice it or you don’t.
The last few solo albums were a lot better, dynamically, than the much-liked Golden Heart and STP in their non-HDCD-decoded versions (as well as the remasters from the 1996-2007 box set). Those are really quite limited.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 17, 2024, 11:10:25 AM
I wonder if it would be a perfect moment to release that MK and friends gig at the Shepherd's Bush Empire 2002 that was played in aid for the TCT and professionally recorded and never released.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 17, 2024, 11:22:16 AM
This, from Paul Sexton, I was referring to:

"You talk about the vibe of Ringo and Zak together?"
"That's why I wanted the end like that, just that bish-bash-bosh on the kit. That sums it to me in many ways, just the spirit of the thing. "

LE

Well, this is a very eloquent answer that explains a lot of my "problems" with this track and current production techniques in Mark's work.

I understand where they are coming from, but excuse me, showing a bit of "fun" and "bish-bash-bosh" in an obviously overly-produced, overly edited and remotely recorded track is just plain ridiculous to me. It's like you would leave the original ending in the studio version of "Telegraph Road" where it just ends abruptly with random guitar licks, when everybody knows the thing was polished to death nearly rendering it lifeless. These are certain creative decisions I'm not a fan of.

If, again, there would be a video showing Ringo and Zak having fun, and after all 9 minutes they like "huuuuuh, we did it", that would make sense. But on merely just an audio version it's weird. I feel like Mark's previous works were less inclined towards a certain producer so much, or were made more neutral on purpose, which was much better. So you either "get it" and go along with it, and it's the best thing you've ever heard, or it goes entirely against the grain and you "hate" it like I do.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: wakeywakey on March 17, 2024, 11:36:05 AM
The ending is poor and so is the "reasoning" for it.
They could have recorded at the local kindergarten to get bish bash bosh!
It doesn't let the song down too much and Guy has largely done a good job under trying circumstances.
There is a reason why he hasn't become a go to producer for other acts.
He produces songs/albums the way MK wants so no point in complaining too much about it.
Let's hope the sales are massive.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: herlock on March 17, 2024, 12:05:48 PM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy. (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji481.png)(http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji450.png)

You mean "Guy Fletcher is cool"? Don't think Mark has been that involved to be honest, apart from playing his parts and handing his address book to Guy LOL
Guy even said "this one really was all my work"  ;D
I asked Guy a while back about why MKs solo albums lost dynamic range and he said he doesn’t care about it.

You either notice it or you don’t.
The last few solo albums were a lot better, dynamically, than the much-liked Golden Heart and STP in their non-HDCD-decoded versions (as well as the remasters from the 1996-2007 box set). Those are really quite limited.
HDCD was a stupid hack to begin with, you can't have more than 16 bits on a CD, period. That got even worse when this thing became Microsoft proprietary, no CD manufacturer would pay them for the license, so no player would support it.
I would have hoped that the remasters would have fixed the dynamics in a normal redbook format... You say that's not the case? Too bad!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 17, 2024, 12:07:35 PM
It is Ringo Starr, let him do whatever he wants and that would be perfect.

Come on, this is a song full of strange noises from more than 60 people, and is the drums at the end the problem?

Lol

And the most important, it's for a good cause!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 17, 2024, 12:08:59 PM
I wonder if it would be a perfect moment to release that MK and friends gig at the Shepherd's Bush Empire 2002 that was played in aid for the TCT and professionally recorded and never released.

I mean, it was a concert for TCT, and it was recorded and remains unreleased.

Come on!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: herlock on March 17, 2024, 12:10:11 PM
It is Ringo Starr, let him do whatever he wants and that would be perfect.

Come on, this is a song full of strange noises from more than 60 people, and is the drums at the end the problem?

Lol

And the most important, it's for a good cause!
Well, the result from the 60 people is consistent, a delicious organised mess.
The drums at the end feels very odd in comparison, like a piece of hair in the soup, as we say in France... Strange !
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: herlock on March 17, 2024, 12:10:51 PM
I wonder if it would be a perfect moment to release that MK and friends gig at the Shepherd's Bush Empire 2002 that was played in aid for the TCT and professionally recorded and never released.

I mean, it was a concert for TCT, and it was recorded and remains unreleased.

Come on!
I would really love that! 2002 was maybe the best year of all...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 17, 2024, 12:34:09 PM

Let's hope the sales are massive.

Well on Amazon Germany you have to wait 1-2 months to receive a copy of the CD.
Luckily mine arrived on friday. I wonder why there is no support on Social media from all the artists.
I mean Satriani and Bonamassa alone have 1.7 mio followers and it would have been great if Guy would have asked all the artist to publish
something on the release date on friday to raise the sales. Very strange. and of course the missed opportunity the record some video stuff to make a video for youtube e.g.

Any guesses for the lick at 3.01 ?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 17, 2024, 01:30:09 PM
It is Ringo Starr, let him do whatever he wants and that would be perfect.

Come on, this is a song full of strange noises from more than 60 people, and is the drums at the end the problem?

Lol

And the most important, it's for a good cause!
Well, the result from the 60 people is consistent, a delicious organised mess.
The drums at the end feels very odd in comparison, like a piece of hair in the soup, as we say in France... Strange !

The devil is in the details and attention to tiniest of details is what we learned to expect from Mark. Once again, expectations ruin everything. Love the hair in the soup comparison. The soup itself is not great AND you have a hair in it, thank you very much :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2024, 01:36:11 PM
Hahah, I’ve listened to it one million times today in the car, and it’s the greatest music thing I’ve heard in ages. I love it! Everything about it is great. Guitar and MK OVERLOAD!! Love it!! Incredibly well mixed. So cool and maximalistic. I accidently said that MK hadn’t been cool since 1981, but I was wrong. MK is still cool. And I am happy. (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji481.png)(http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji450.png)

I believe the remasters are worse.

You mean "Guy Fletcher is cool"? Don't think Mark has been that involved to be honest, apart from playing his parts and handing his address book to Guy LOL
Guy even said "this one really was all my work"  ;D
I asked Guy a while back about why MKs solo albums lost dynamic range and he said he doesn’t care about it.

You either notice it or you don’t.
The last few solo albums were a lot better, dynamically, than the much-liked Golden Heart and STP in their non-HDCD-decoded versions (as well as the remasters from the 1996-2007 box set). Those are really quite limited.
HDCD was a stupid hack to begin with, you can't have more than 16 bits on a CD, period. That got even worse when this thing became Microsoft proprietary, no CD manufacturer would pay them for the license, so no player would support it.
I would have hoped that the remasters would have fixed the dynamics in a normal redbook format... You say that's not the case? Too bad!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 17, 2024, 04:48:56 PM

Let's hope the sales are massive.

Well on Amazon Germany you have to wait 1-2 months to receive a copy of the CD.
Luckily mine arrived on friday. I wonder why there is no support on Social media from all the artists.
I mean Satriani and Bonamassa alone have 1.7 mio followers and it would have been great if Guy would have asked all the artist to publish
something on the release date on friday to raise the sales. Very strange. and of course the missed opportunity the record some video stuff to make a video for youtube e.g.

Any guesses for the lick at 3.01 ?

Clapton?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Iron Hand on March 17, 2024, 08:41:25 PM
The last few solo albums were a lot better, dynamically, than the much-liked Golden Heart and STP in their non-HDCD-decoded versions (as well as the remasters from the 1996-2007 box set). Those are really quite limited.
HDCD was a stupid hack to begin with, you can't have more than 16 bits on a CD, period. That got even worse when this thing became Microsoft proprietary, no CD manufacturer would pay them for the license, so no player would support it.
I would have hoped that the remasters would have fixed the dynamics in a normal redbook format... You say that's not the case? Too bad!
I believe the remasters are worse.
Yeah, sadly that's the case (or let's say they're barely different). Which is odd since STP at least exists as a differently mastered hi-res download.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 17, 2024, 09:17:37 PM
https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/mark-knopflers-guitar-heroes-going-home-number-1-beyonce-first-look/?fbclid=IwAR3WjD0VN47Qyo-ECFwcDw6IFEmH1p-E1MeMo0Bbu7OYNKkGc6uOlbBfxnY
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: stratmad on March 17, 2024, 11:43:51 PM
Nice. He can still pull it off, boom like that :-)

Jimin, Jung Kook, Dasha, Kim Tae-hyung ... if someone had read those names out to me, I'd have thought it was some Asian takeaway menu. Not my generation, I suppose  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: TJ on March 18, 2024, 12:16:31 AM
Re: HDCD, I emailed Chuck Ainlay many years ago and asked him if HDCD (and Super Bit Mapping) actually sounded any better when played on an ordinary, non-HDCD player.  His response was full of sound engineering technical jargon that went completely over my head, but I understood to mean "Maybe a little".

Re: Going Home ending, isn't that the producer's job, to tell the artist (even Ringo) that something sounds like crap?  Seems to me like it would be.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 18, 2024, 01:19:19 AM
Re: HDCD, I emailed Chuck Ainlay many years ago and asked him if HDCD (and Super Bit Mapping) actually sounded any better when played on an ordinary, non-HDCD player.  His response was full of sound engineering technical jargon that went completely over my head, but I understood to mean "Maybe a little".

Re: Going Home ending, isn't that the producer's job, to tell the artist (even Ringo) that something sounds like crap?  Seems to me like it would be.

People certainly underestimate the role of a producer. I think it's huge—an overarching role, a decision-making role. Ringo is the chillest dude on the planet and I already described why it's important to love him, but in the case of this recording, I think this "random" ending was a bit over the top and classic late Ringo, almost like trying to sabotage the recording or something. A little strange, to say the least. Look at his masterclass on masterclass.com, it's the most bizarre drumming masterclass you can watch and you learn absolutely nothing about drumming, though it has a lot of this "flamboyant persona" vibe. I'm not a fan.

And yes, it's a mystery why somebody like Guy would listen to THIS ending, then probably Mark would listen to this, and a dozen other important and skilled people hear this and all of them give their thumbs-up like this is okay. Put it out. It's ready. It's not going to confuse people at all, it doesn't sound strange.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 18, 2024, 01:21:01 AM
It's been 3 days after the release of the track, weeks after the announcement, and years after work on it started, and still, not a single guitar YouTuber mentioned Mark's "historic recording" even though it involved a lot of musicians people like to obsess over on YouTube save maybe for John Mayer. It looks like nobody even had it in the pipeline.

Each one of these YouTubers released a video right after Rolling Stone's mess of 250 best guitar players list was dropped without warning, making pretty much every guitarist on Earth know about this stupid list and giving them millions of views. I wonder who will be the first to break the mould and finally talk about Mark as the guy is seemingly blacklisted in the multi-million guitar YouTubers clique.

As somebody who's checking the pulse of this rather obnoxious YouTube guitar community pretty often, I am astonished at how criminally underrated Mark still is. Wake up, people.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 18, 2024, 06:06:03 AM
It's been 3 days after the release of the track, weeks after the announcement, and years after work on it started, and still, not a single guitar YouTuber mentioned Mark's "historic recording" even though it involved a lot of musicians people like to obsess over on YouTube save maybe for John Mayer. It looks like nobody even had it in the pipeline.

Each one of these YouTubers released a video right after Rolling Stone's mess of 250 best guitar players list was dropped without warning, making pretty much every guitarist on Earth know about this stupid list and giving them millions of views. I wonder who will be the first to break the mould and finally talk about Mark as the guy is seemingly blacklisted in the multi-million guitar YouTubers clique.

As somebody who's checking the pulse of this rather obnoxious YouTube guitar community pretty often, I am astonished at how criminally underrated Mark still is. Wake up, people.

Mark is not underrated. Everywhere I look he's highly praised as a guitar player with an exceptional touch and taste. The problem is that he hasn't really brought anything exciting to the table in terms of guitar playing for the last 30+ years. Which is by choice. The most interesting stuff guitarwise happened during the first four DS albums, and that has been discussed to death long time ago. A steadily decreasing emphasis on the guitar and a string of solo albums that are very similar; not exactly suprising why Mark isn't a hot topic in the YouTube community. Even as a long time fan, I can barely maintain interest myself.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 18, 2024, 08:19:05 AM
It's been 3 days after the release of the track, weeks after the announcement, and years after work on it started, and still, not a single guitar YouTuber mentioned Mark's "historic recording" even though it involved a lot of musicians people like to obsess over on YouTube save maybe for John Mayer. It looks like nobody even had it in the pipeline.

Each one of these YouTubers released a video right after Rolling Stone's mess of 250 best guitar players list was dropped without warning, making pretty much every guitarist on Earth know about this stupid list and giving them millions of views. I wonder who will be the first to break the mould and finally talk about Mark as the guy is seemingly blacklisted in the multi-million guitar YouTubers clique.

As somebody who's checking the pulse of this rather obnoxious YouTube guitar community pretty often, I am astonished at how criminally underrated Mark still is. Wake up, people.

Mark is not underrated. Everywhere I look he's highly praised as a guitar player with an exceptional touch and taste. The problem is that he hasn't really brought anything exciting to the table in terms of guitar playing for the last 30+ years. Which is by choice. The most interesting stuff guitarwise happened during the first four DS albums, and that has been discussed to death long time ago. A steadily decreasing emphasis on the guitar and a string of solo albums that are very similar; not exactly suprising why Mark isn't a hot topic in the YouTube community. Even as a long time fan, I can barely maintain interest myself.

Yes, "by choice" is a good way to put it, "underrated" is bad. Mark is definitely happy to be less prominent and discussed, this I understand, but people's choice of not featuring his music more often I honestly do not understand sometimes. You can say this thing of "not bringing anything exciting and new to the table" about a lot of artists, but it doesn't stop everybody from talking about them, whether the artists themselves want it or not.

Mark, on the other hand, for most people is just "The Dire Straits guy who played this riff". And the riff in question is either 'Sultans Of Swing' or 'Money For Nothing', without exception, sometimes comically so. Even Rick Beato's latest video on Mark to date, which got over a million views, by the way, was exactly about this. It was titled "Did Dire Straits Create the Coolest Riff Ever?". Dire Straits, not even Mark Knopfler! LOL!

I find Mark's post-DS guitar work more soulful, intricate, interesting, sophisticated and refined, he grows as a songwriter and as a guitar player all the time. And you'd be hard-pressed to find an artist who's as consistent, as prolific and as successful of a songwriter ON TOP of a great guitar player as he is. Heck, Mark's body of work is enough on its own to keep somebody like me going for son-to-be 10 years on YouTube, it's a treasure trove of fun.

Songs like 'Postcards From Paraguay', 'Sailing To Philadelphia', 'Baloney Again', 'Privateering', 'Get Lucky', 'The Ragpicker's Dream' and many others are amazingly well-written, shockingly beautiful, extremely interesting guitar-wise AND provide a great listening experience, cherished by a lot of people evidently by Mark's success of playing it live. And all this while completely blinding most people with the flashy guitar playing in early Dire Straits.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 18, 2024, 08:44:49 AM
I'm not saying that his solo work isn't high quality. The same goes for the songs you mentioned. But the fact is that (almost) everything Mark has played on his solo albums are more or less rehashed versions of what he already has done many years before, and those versions are usually watered down, minimalistic, and frankly not that exciting. Especially for younger players looking for hot guitar playing (and for YouTubers wanting views). His Strat tone never really got better than on Communique (at least in my opinion), his soulful distorted playing never got much better than on BIA (the song, the album), he peaked technically when he spent time with Chet Atkins, but we are talking 35 years ago. His playing during the solo years does indeed have value, and there's much to be said for a less-is-more approach, but none of it is really revolutionary. If you want minimalistic, look to JJ Cale or Mike Campbell for example. We are biased because we are fans, but frankly there are tons of guitar players I find a lot more interesting than Mark. Not only technically, but also musically and creatively speaking.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 18, 2024, 10:22:13 AM
It was titled "Did Dire Straits Create the Coolest Riff Ever?". Dire Straits, not even Mark Knopfler! LOL!

I neither know nor care about guitar youtubers but with online stuff in general I believe you need to get clicks/likes.

Dire Straits is much better known that Mark Knopfler so it stands to reason that you would title it that way if you wanted to get clicks.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 18, 2024, 04:29:40 PM

Let's hope the sales are massive.

Well on Amazon Germany you have to wait 1-2 months to receive a copy of the CD.
Luckily mine arrived on friday. I wonder why there is no support on Social media from all the artists.
I mean Satriani and Bonamassa alone have 1.7 mio followers and it would have been great if Guy would have asked all the artist to publish
something on the release date on friday to raise the sales. Very strange. and of course the missed opportunity the record some video stuff to make a video for youtube e.g.

Any guesses for the lick at 3.01 ?

Clapton?

Yes I think the same
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 18, 2024, 11:17:06 PM
Picked up my Vinyl copy today. Absolutely no problems getting it out of the wrapper. The etched 'B' side is beautiful....
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: mjhadlick on March 18, 2024, 11:32:27 PM
Would love to decode who is playing by listening to it.

me too. I am impatient to see Guy's video with all names animated while the tune si playing

There is going to be such a thing? Can't wait!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on March 18, 2024, 11:43:11 PM
So in my job as a teacher I’m trained to give “praise sandwiches.”
I’m not particularly good at it but let’s try it here.

First of all, you can’t help but admire and respect Guy for the sheer effort and the amount of work he put in. He must have been absolutely sick of that track by the time we heard it. Even if you don’t like his work-what a man! Seriously, what a man.

Much like some others here, I was disappointed by the initial minute snippet that we heard and the rest of the track didn’t change my mind particularly. I think the minute that was shared may just about have been the most “muddy” part of the track though imo.
I remember someone saying that we wouldn’t stand at the side of a track and shout “run faster” to the runners who are racing.
I can’t help but think that’s completely different. We are not saying to try any harder to the players!
They’re all amazing and at the top of their game. The reality is, them all playing over each other is inevitably going to sound over kill and “muddy.”
If I saw all the runners in the same lane and trying to push past each other without changing lane, then it might be a similar analogy.
I’m not criticising any of the players but them all playing together is just too much. The ending of the AMAZING Concert for Monserrat had an acceptable level of guitar players to make it sound awesome-too many more and it would have been overkill.
 
Regarding the ending, I’m amazed that it’s not IANTO. He went through a phase of trying to get the last beat of every song in during love shows which several on here thought was immature. Even though we know it’s not true, I still think it’s a slightly off ending to the song.

Having said all that, the video of Mark speaking to the patients was really moving and a much needed video to ground my thoughts on the song.
The cause is superb and the musicians very generous.
Well done to all involved on a worthwhile project.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 19, 2024, 04:44:54 PM
Received an email from HMV today that my vinyl was ready for collection and picked it up this afternoon.   It came out of the wrapper easily and there was no warping - sounds great too!   Very happy.   :)

Mr Val says it has to be played very loud with all of the windows open!   ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 19, 2024, 05:24:25 PM
I really LOVE the track. Got my hands on the 192/24 version and it's amazing when played loud on good speakers. I love the part between 7.30 and 9.00. The part around 8.30 is awesome (who is playing there?) Is that Eric? Slash?

I really can't imagine that people here just listen once and never again... impossible in my opinion. Just give it some more... air guitar time and head shaking guaranteed  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on March 19, 2024, 05:30:59 PM
I really LOVE the track. Got my hands on the 192/24 version and it's amazing when played loud on good speakers. I love the part between 7.30 and 9.00. The part around 8.30 is awesome (who is playing there?) Is that Eric? Slash?

I really can't imagine that people here just listen once and never again... impossible in my opinion. Just give it some more... air guitar time and head shaking guaranteed  ;)
My guess the end is played by Tom Morello, Joe Satriani, Steve Lukather and Steve Vai
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 19, 2024, 05:32:33 PM
The 9.00 - 9.30 part is Peter Frampton i think. I read that Guy said that hey played the end.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 19, 2024, 05:47:04 PM
I really LOVE the track. Got my hands on the 192/24 version and it's amazing when played loud on good speakers. I love the part between 7.30 and 9.00. The part around 8.30 is awesome (who is playing there?) Is that Eric? Slash?

I really can't imagine that people here just listen once and never again... impossible in my opinion. Just give it some more... air guitar time and head shaking guaranteed  ;)

Dunno, for all my MK friends whom I asked about it, 10 people or so, it's a one-time listen. Either something is wrong with all my friends and me, or... :lol

I envy people who are in line with Guy's vision as Mark's music is gonna be 90% Guy from now on apparently, so if you love Guy's work — good for you! ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 19, 2024, 05:56:05 PM
I really LOVE the track. Got my hands on the 192/24 version and it's amazing when played loud on good speakers. I love the part between 7.30 and 9.00. The part around 8.30 is awesome (who is playing there?) Is that Eric? Slash?

I really can't imagine that people here just listen once and never again... impossible in my opinion. Just give it some more... air guitar time and head shaking guaranteed  ;)

Dunno, for all my MK friends whom I asked about it, 10 people or so, it's a one-time listen. Either something is wrong with all my friends and me, or... :lol

I envy people who are in line with Guy's vision as Mark's music is gonna be 90% Guy from now on apparently, so if you love Guy's work — good for you! ;D

It had nothing to do with Guys work or not... its stuffed with awesome guitar, i think you do yourself short by listening just once. The solos between 8 and 8.30 are so nice. I always loved Going Home btw.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 19, 2024, 06:20:26 PM
I really LOVE the track. Got my hands on the 192/24 version and it's amazing when played loud on good speakers. I love the part between 7.30 and 9.00. The part around 8.30 is awesome (who is playing there?) Is that Eric? Slash?

I really can't imagine that people here just listen once and never again... impossible in my opinion. Just give it some more... air guitar time and head shaking guaranteed  ;)

I feel the same. The song has a lot of power and energy.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rail King on March 19, 2024, 06:24:48 PM
I hope this recording will earn a lot of money for a very worthy cause, and I'll listen to it a couple more times simply because it's fun to detect this or that player.

The track is hardly an exciting new piece of music, however. It's about as exciting as a recording of an old song, heard a thousand times, with 60+ players can be.LIke We Are the World, it's more about the names and their marketing value than it is about the music. That's okay given the cause it serves. But I'm much, much more excited about the forthcoming album.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 19, 2024, 10:00:04 PM
The part around 8.30 is awesome (who is playing there?) Is that Eric? Slash?

I think it's Eric
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 19, 2024, 10:02:02 PM
The 9.00 - 9.30 part is Peter Frampton i think. I read that Guy said that hey played the end.

Yes I read that too
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 19, 2024, 10:06:14 PM
I just love that track.
Listened to it more than 15 times already.
Awesome. It is Guitar Heaven. That Line up. Just great
Love the quite beginning with MK, EC and DG.
But the end is really too short. It got rockier there with Satriani, Vai and Orianthi. Maybe also Slash and Morello
Well done Guy
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 20, 2024, 08:17:56 AM
There are two things that bug me a little: The fact that it's called Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes and that it is his song they are playing. As long as the project earns money for the charities, who cares, but it's a bit much "Mark Knopfler". It can not be a coincidence that his new album is being released shortly after. If anything, his album should have been released before the GH single. And when they say the proceeds go to the charities, do the proceeds include royalties Mark earns from Going Home?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 09:22:23 AM
Today the video
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 20, 2024, 10:05:39 AM
There are two things that bug me a little: The fact that it's called Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes and that it is his song they are playing. As long as the project earns money for the charities, who cares, but it's a bit much "Mark Knopfler". It can not be a coincidence that his new album is being released shortly after. If anything, his album should have been released before the GH single. And when they say the proceeds go to the charities, do the proceeds include royalties Mark earns from Going Home?

Got a better idea for the name?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 20, 2024, 10:17:49 AM
There are two things that bug me a little: The fact that it's called Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes and that it is his song they are playing. As long as the project earns money for the charities, who cares, but it's a bit much "Mark Knopfler". It can not be a coincidence that his new album is being released shortly after. If anything, his album should have been released before the GH single. And when they say the proceeds go to the charities, do the proceeds include royalties Mark earns from Going Home?

Got a better idea for the name?

Guitar Heroes United
TCT All-Stars Band
Cancerbusters (not really ...)
Six-String Superstars
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 20, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
There are two things that bug me a little: The fact that it's called Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes and that it is his song they are playing. As long as the project earns money for the charities, who cares, but it's a bit much "Mark Knopfler". It can not be a coincidence that his new album is being released shortly after. If anything, his album should have been released before the GH single. And when they say the proceeds go to the charities, do the proceeds include royalties Mark earns from Going Home?

Got a better idea for the name?

Guitar Heroes United
TCT All-Stars Band
Cancerbusters (not really ...)
Six-String Superstars

The title is another one of many details that threw me off the boat completely. When I first saw it (and the idea), I could not believe my eyes. Mark Knopfler, who all his life never associated himself with guitar shredders, and would be the first to cringe after being called a "guitar hero", not only called them over to play together but called the group "Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes". I feel like an extraordinary title like this is too small for 1 track anyway, even if it's a world-record one.

It feels like everything in this project is purposefully done against the grain and all expectations in the hope that they'll get a lift off, and for the majority of people I think they succeeded. It does look cool, grandiose, impressive and grabs attention. The problem is with people who look past its goal. From the raw idea, the title, to the poorly executed cover picture, muddy mix, overproduced nature of it, immature ending with bashing drums, all these details, it just doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 20, 2024, 10:53:08 AM
There are two things that bug me a little: The fact that it's called Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes and that it is his song they are playing. As long as the project earns money for the charities, who cares, but it's a bit much "Mark Knopfler". It can not be a coincidence that his new album is being released shortly after. If anything, his album should have been released before the GH single. And when they say the proceeds go to the charities, do the proceeds include royalties Mark earns from Going Home?

Got a better idea for the name?

Guitar Heroes United
TCT All-Stars Band
Cancerbusters (not really ...)
Six-String Superstars

Sorry, I think you misunderstood my question, I was asking if you had a better name, but all the examples you have provided are clearly worse :)

In all seriousness, when you are doing something like this press coverage and publicity is king. So it makes sense to make someone the focal point who will agree to go out and do press and media interviews as MK has done. And as for the new album, and the auction, well if MK is more visible for any reason then it's good publicity for the single. I seriously doubt anyone will buy MK's new album who hasn't already bought the charity single.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 20, 2024, 11:06:52 AM
Sorry, I think you misunderstood my question, I was asking if you had a better name, but all the examples you have provided are clearly worse :)

In all seriousness, when you are doing something like this press coverage and publicity is king. So it makes sense to make someone the focal point who will agree to go out and do press and media interviews as MK has done. And as for the new album, and the auction, well if MK is more visible for any reason then it's good publicity for the single. I seriously doubt anyone will buy MK's new album who hasn't already bought the charity single.

Sorry for interrupting again, but I can't remember Live Aid being called "Bob Geldof's Music Legends". If you're the creator of something, it doesn't mean you need to put your name in everything you do, so the answer here is not as easy as it may seem. If anything, using MK's name is a BAD tool for PUBLICITY as the man purposefully ignored publicity and fame all his solo career, only one day to go out and promote "the biggest supergroup in history of music". That's why I said all the details about this project just throw me off. And NO VIDEO of musicians playing, this is also something I'll never understand.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 11:27:55 AM
Well, i'm glad most of us like it ;) I don't understand the 'muddy mix' at all. Because it isn't.. It's sounds clear. But again, your loss..
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 20, 2024, 11:34:17 AM
The lack of a video is easy to understand.

The musicians go into their home studio and do a few passes and send the tracks to Guy. Guy takes them and edits them into the song, probably "comping" a few takes.

To ask the musicians to do a video is a whole different prospect. You either have to ask them to film the original time recording, or you have to ask them to be filmed miming to the finished product. Either way, you are talking about 60 x camera persons/lighting/make up whatever. Yes it's possible but it's not really practical, particularly in an age where basically very few people "pay" for music and the object of the exercise is to raise money for charity.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on March 20, 2024, 11:56:48 AM
I don't have any problem with the marketing, name, and concept of the whole thing. After listening to it about 20 times, I must admit that I totally love it. For me, these are some of the highlights:

- Jeff Beck intro, obviously.
- Mark playing the intro, and some other parts of the song.
- Clever how they extended the intro and kept it interesting (e.g. replacing Bm6/G# with E7)
- Some of the instantly recognizable licks from Clapton and Gilmour.
- I think at the start of the song we hear Ianto, and later on Ringo blends in? (a bit weird at 6:00 where the hi-hat comes in)
- 4:30 - 4:38, I don't know who it is, but it's just beautiful.
- 5:30 - 5:38, I love how this acoustic guitar comes in.
- 5:52 - 6:30, the slide guitar (Sonny Landreth, I think) is just amazing.
- 7:32, when Satriani comes in with a new melody and kicks off the final part of the song.
- Nice how they weren't afraid to change the progression of the song a bit in the final part (around 7:58 - 8:10 and on)
- The drum fill at 9:28 - 9:31 totally doesn't make sense 🤣

Mixing this must have been a nightmare, but given how much criticism Guy always gets, I think he did a marvelous job putting this thing together. I downloaded the 96/24 file (and ordered the LP), and it sounds great. You can say anything about his mixes, but they're definitely recognizable, especially the drums. The only thing I don't understand is that he sometimes ignores the harsh sound of Mark's clean tone. In this song, it's the F# on the fifth string (7th fret). Listen at 0:46. It almost hurts when I play the song loud. I know he does it intentionally (characteristics, no EQ, etc.), but I can play Chuck mixes as loud as I want and never be triggered by a specific painful note/tone.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 20, 2024, 11:58:22 AM
The lack of a video is easy to understand.

The musicians go into their home studio and do a few passes and send the tracks to Guy. Guy takes them and edits them into the song, probably "comping" a few takes.

To ask the musicians to do a video is a whole different prospect. You either have to ask them to film the original time recording, or you have to ask them to be filmed miming to the finished product. Either way, you are talking about 60 x camera persons/lighting/make up whatever. Yes it's possible but it's not really practical, particularly in an age where basically very few people "pay" for music and the object of the exercise is to raise money for charity.

It's easy to fix though. And hope it's something we'll see in the finished video (which wasn't done in 2+ years for some reason, and considering expectations are meant to be broken, I doubt that). All you need to do is yes, ask people to record themselves playing, on their phone, laptop, GoPro, security camera or whatever. They all have guitar techs, wives, producers, and mates who can help them, even fridges have cameras these days, so it doesn't need to be good. A shitty video of a celebrity worth more than any 8K RED camera footage a fan can record.

Obviously, not everybody will do that, then you can just cut to "house band" playing or Mark playing, displaying the name in the video somewhere.

Hard to edit? Well, maybe, but you have names of guitar players in audio tracks, and you can even synchronise the audio automatically, no manual labour is needed. With original videos and a finished audio track, I could complete this task in a few hours. All this tells me it wasn't in the pipeline. And if it wasn't in the pipeline, it's bad production, as simple as that.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 12:06:25 PM
The finished video doesn't contain video of the players (so you can be disapointed again), Guy said that already. It's only a guide for who plays where.. Today is the release
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 20, 2024, 12:07:30 PM
Has anyone worked out what part is edited for the vinyl version?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 20, 2024, 12:18:49 PM
There are two things that bug me a little: The fact that it's called Mark Knopfler's Guitar Heroes and that it is his song they are playing. As long as the project earns money for the charities, who cares, but it's a bit much "Mark Knopfler". It can not be a coincidence that his new album is being released shortly after. If anything, his album should have been released before the GH single. And when they say the proceeds go to the charities, do the proceeds include royalties Mark earns from Going Home?

Got a better idea for the name?

Guitar Heroes United
TCT All-Stars Band
Cancerbusters (not really ...)
Six-String Superstars

Sorry, I think you misunderstood my question, I was asking if you had a better name, but all the examples you have provided are clearly worse :)

In all seriousness, when you are doing something like this press coverage and publicity is king. So it makes sense to make someone the focal point who will agree to go out and do press and media interviews as MK has done. And as for the new album, and the auction, well if MK is more visible for any reason then it's good publicity for the single. I seriously doubt anyone will buy MK's new album who hasn't already bought the charity single.

Ha-ha! Those were just off the top of my head. No, but I mean it; the name should reflect it's a collaborative effort, not MK plus ... Anyway. Something good is being done for people in need, so I'll shut up  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 12:20:11 PM
Has anyone worked out what part is edited for the vinyl version?

I only know its about 8.12 and the full version is 9.50. You have the vinyl version right?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 20, 2024, 12:32:54 PM
I have the vinyl too but can't bring up the enthusiasm to listen to both tracks several times to find out...

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 12:36:30 PM
I'll bet you will love it after that  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 20, 2024, 12:50:59 PM
Has anyone worked out what part is edited for the vinyl version?

I only know its about 8.12 and the full version is 9.50. You have the vinyl version right?

Yes.

I just listened on Spotify and I don't remember hearing the Sonny Landreth stuff the first time round but maybe I justr wasn't paying attention. :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 20, 2024, 01:12:32 PM
In that Podcast, Guy said that the vinyl definitely was the main format from this release. It's strange that they obviously cut something from this. It has not technical (length) reasons so I wonder why they did it really.

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 20, 2024, 02:39:59 PM
The finished video doesn't contain video of the players (so you can be disapointed again), Guy said that already. It's only a guide for who plays where.. Today is the release

do we know at what time it will be published ?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 20, 2024, 02:40:51 PM
The finished video doesn't contain video of the players (so you can be disapointed again), Guy said that already. It's only a guide for who plays where.. Today is the release

do we know at what time it will be published ?

Not really
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 20, 2024, 03:04:18 PM
The finished video doesn't contain video of the players (so you can be disapointed again), Guy said that already. It's only a guide for who plays where.. Today is the release

do we know at what time it will be published ?



Not really

They're probably struggling, converting Windows movie maker files to MP4  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 20, 2024, 03:15:54 PM
The finished video doesn't contain video of the players (so you can be disapointed again), Guy said that already. It's only a guide for who plays where.. Today is the release

do we know at what time it will be published ?



Not really

They're probably struggling, converting Windows movie maker files to MP4  ;D

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 20, 2024, 03:19:59 PM
seriously, I am very much looking forward to this video, because we will finnally know WHO plays WHAT  :P

its' a big obssession for me, on every record I listen to.

It would be the graal for me to have this kind of video for all great records I like...

books like "La totale" series give a lot of deep information though...

But imagine a track-video for each song in rock history... oh my god !
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 03:21:08 PM
I'm also waiting impatiently since this morning... Hopefully they will cover all the parts, even the small
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 03:21:51 PM
Curious about the 8.30 part, and also want to know where is Bruuuuuuceeeee
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 20, 2024, 03:37:02 PM
In that Podcast, Guy said that the vinyl definitely was the main format from this release. It's strange that they obviously cut something from this. It has not technical (length) reasons so I wonder why they did it really.

LE

On the official TCT announcement there are two lists of players. One for the (shorter) vinyl edition and one for the digital version. I checked them but can't remember exactly, but 12 players are 'missing' on the vinyl version. Among them is Steve Lukather. I reckon those names recorded very late in the proces.

Anyway, looking forward to the video.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 03:40:05 PM
I also tought that Shery Crow only played bass on the full version. But we all heard that already for sure  :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 20, 2024, 03:43:41 PM
I also tought that Shery Crow only played bass on the full version. But we all heard that already for sure  :lol

Sheryl 'Shery' Crow was also one of the names, yes.

You can find the full list here:
https://www.teenagecancertrust.org/media-centre-and-press-releases/out-now-mark-knopflers-guitar-heroes-going-home-theme-local-hero
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 03:47:54 PM
Has anyone worked out what part is edited for the vinyl version?

I only know its about 8.12 and the full version is 9.50. You have the vinyl version right?

Yes.

I just listened on Spotify and I don't remember hearing the Sonny Landreth stuff the first time round but maybe I justr wasn't paying attention. :)

Sonny is indeed missing on the vinyl
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 20, 2024, 03:51:27 PM
And at least 5 others. Thanks for that list. Now Dutchessy can check and compare.  ;D

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 03:52:48 PM
These are not on the vinyl version

Sheryl Crow
Roger Daltrey
Keiji Haino
Sonny Landreth
Alex Lifeson
Steve Lukather
Phil Manzanera
Dave Mason
Tom Morello
Rick Nielsen
Brad Paisley
Andy Taylor
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 03:54:06 PM
Somebody else can listen really and tell us which part(s) is/are missing compared to the full version
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 20, 2024, 04:01:35 PM
Who would have the nerve (and the time) to do that really?

I feel cheated by the way. I thought when I buy the "main" product I got it all but it turns out my vinyl edition misses nearly a quarter!!  from the number of people that are mentioned in every article about this ... masterpiece.

LE

P.S.  but the etching is very nice   :lol :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 04:04:38 PM
It's for charity  ;D

I can send you the good quality file if you want, but i think you are not interested in... this masterpiece

I think it's not that heavily edited between the 2 versions.. probably just the ending or a middle part omitted. Easy to check with 1 listen
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 20, 2024, 04:23:15 PM
My CD finally arrived. Time: 9.50. I was worried about the length of the CD recording, but I'm happy now  :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 20, 2024, 06:59:39 PM
Guy Fletcher: "I am surprised by some of the contributors' lack of social media support."

See, even Guy can't help but notice the lack of recognition even from people making it. Something is wrong with this world (a lot of things, actually).

For how much I'm not a fan of the finished track, I do want it to get more recognition, more views and more sales. Pity that I, with my 25K subscribers, can probably sell a couple of additional copies at best.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 20, 2024, 08:01:41 PM
Today the video

Are you sure? Looks like today's the day of Real Live Roadrunning. By the way, the absence of video may also play a big part in some of the contributors not sharing it. What they are supposed to share, the link or audio file? The nature of projects like this, EVERYBODY wants a proper video. The video should've been released before the audio, yet another mistake in a long string of mistakes :smack
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 08:07:46 PM
Guy said on his forum this morning... but soon becomes a year... maybe today becomes a week?  ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 08:10:52 PM
But i'm sure it will be the best video ever  ;)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 20, 2024, 11:56:21 PM
Maybe tomorrow?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 21, 2024, 12:18:12 AM
Maybe tomorrow?

Quite possible! Can't wait to see what surprises await us in the video ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: TJ on March 21, 2024, 02:38:14 AM
Soon
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 21, 2024, 08:41:07 AM
Maybe tomorrow?

Soon.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 21, 2024, 09:36:53 AM
Looks like this track is very close to being a UK number 1 hit single, which is something I don't think Mark has ever had (please correct me if I am wrong) it would be amazing for him being 74 and it being an instrumental, the last UK number 1 instrumental was in 2013 so, it is a rare thing. I really hope it happens, but it is getting tough competition from Beyoncé, who would have ever thought those 2 artists would be competing for anything?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 21, 2024, 09:50:28 AM
It was  #4 yesterday so i don't think it will be #1 unfortunately..
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 21, 2024, 10:52:02 AM
Yeah, I don't know how the charts work these days but I think physical products count for more than streams. So the single likley made an impact on physical sales on release but then has drifted off through the week as Queen Bey ramps up the streams with her "country" single. Yee hah!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Silvertown on March 21, 2024, 11:59:05 AM
Maybe tomorrow?

Quite possible! Can't wait to see what surprises await us in the video ;D

You will be disappointed. Highly probable some animation with names of the players on the screen at appropiate times.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 21, 2024, 12:02:11 PM
Maybe tomorrow?

Quite possible! Can't wait to see what surprises await us in the video ;D

You will be disappointed. Highly probable some animation with names of the players on the screen at appropiate times.

Indeed something like that
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 21, 2024, 12:12:38 PM
Maybe tomorrow?

Quite possible! Can't wait to see what surprises await us in the video ;D

You will be disappointed. Highly probable some animation with names of the players on the screen at appropiate times.

Indeed something like that

But Guy already said it's going to be animations and no videos of players in action. I joked that I was looking forward to finding out how the video could be improved like everything else, as yes, I am disappointed by the result in general but very supportive of the cause, and I wonder if this video will redeem all my complaints. Hope dies last! ;D

I also wanted to write about the project on my social media but found out all I can share is a link to buy it and a video of audio (:hmm) of the project. A proper video of any quality would be nice and indeed is very highly anticipated.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: rmarques821 on March 21, 2024, 01:26:31 PM
Where's Henrik Hansen when we need him?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: localhero1986 on March 21, 2024, 01:42:20 PM
Glad I bought the CD instead of vinyl. Why on earth would you cut ONE song on vinyl? Especially if there is only ONE song on it? :smack
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 21, 2024, 01:56:06 PM
Maybe they sended the project as 'done' to vinyl manafuctering... and then 12 new players came in  :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: localhero1986 on March 21, 2024, 05:15:21 PM
Maybe they sended the project as 'done' to vinyl manafuctering... and then 12 new players came in  :lol

LOL!! Good one!  ;D ;D ;D :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 21, 2024, 05:32:50 PM
They're obviously struggling to find encoding software compatible with Windows vista   ;D
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Silvertown on March 21, 2024, 05:37:28 PM
They're obviously struggling to find encoding software compatible with Windows vista   ;D

Too much unsaved video files (Madrid 2001 etc.)...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 21, 2024, 06:52:29 PM
Where's Henrik Hansen when we need him?

There is no Henrik Hansen even when we don't need him :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 21, 2024, 07:09:02 PM
So these are all the different versions of the song:

- the shorter one in the lp

- the long one in the cd

- an even shorter played at the St James's stadium

- another one specially made for the Atmos demonstrations at British Grove

- an even more extended one for the video

- the shorter from the Lp and the long from the cd mixed for atmos

And seems the only difference is the length of it, and the kind of sound (stereo or Atmos)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 21, 2024, 07:32:41 PM
There should also be a radio edit, Guy said it was around 4-5 minutes?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 21, 2024, 07:34:14 PM
There should also be a radio edit, Guy said it was around 4-5 minutes?

I heard this version on Polish radio.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 21, 2024, 08:36:15 PM
There should also be a radio edit, Guy said it was around 4-5 minutes?

I heard this version on Polish radio.

Cool!

Any chance you can contact them for a digital version?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 21, 2024, 08:38:03 PM
There should also be a radio edit, Guy said it was around 4-5 minutes?

I heard this version on Polish radio.

Cool!

Any chance you can contact them for a digital version?

This can be very difficult.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 21, 2024, 08:41:56 PM
There should also be a radio edit, Guy said it was around 4-5 minutes?

I heard this version on Polish radio.

Cool!

Any chance you can contact them for a digital version?

This can be very difficult.

Difficult is not the same as impossible.
Just try and see...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 21, 2024, 08:44:08 PM
There should also be a radio edit, Guy said it was around 4-5 minutes?

I heard this version on Polish radio.

Cool!

Any chance you can contact them for a digital version?

This can be very difficult.

Difficult is not the same as impossible.
Just try and see...

Ok:)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 21, 2024, 09:09:37 PM
So these are all the different versions of the song:

- the shorter one in the lp

- the long one in the cd

- an even shorter played at the St James's stadium

- another one specially made for the Atmos demonstrations at British Grove

- an even more extended one for the video

- the shorter from the Lp and the long from the cd mixed for atmos

And seems the only difference is the length of it, and the kind of sound (stereo or Atmos)

the video will be longer ? I didn't know that
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 21, 2024, 09:38:33 PM
So these are all the different versions of the song:

- the shorter one in the lp

- the long one in the cd

- an even shorter played at the St James's stadium

- another one specially made for the Atmos demonstrations at British Grove

- an even more extended one for the video

- the shorter from the Lp and the long from the cd mixed for atmos

And seems the only difference is the length of it, and the kind of sound (stereo or Atmos)

the video will be longer ? I didn't know that

Guy said that he extended the intro to accommodate what they did to illustrate who play when.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 22, 2024, 02:17:54 PM
If I thought the audio was a mess, with this video is even worst! so difficult to follow, the animation doesn't helps...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGm7gJtSZE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Love Expresso on March 22, 2024, 02:34:38 PM
Much better than expected. What a hell of work this must have been to put together.  I think this is a perfect way to show who played what and when. The bigger the letters, the more prominent in the mix. Easy! Very nice!

Astonished that Bruce Springsteen really has many notes to play, really a very long part compared to others.

And Clapton on acoustic guitar?

LE
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Rolo on March 22, 2024, 02:35:21 PM
If I thought the audio was a mess, with this video is even worst! so difficult to follow, the animation doesn't helps...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGm7gJtSZE

One thing is for sure.
Some Clapton maniacs here (at least one) was surprised by Orianthi and Bonamassa.
Joe sounds exactly like Eric when he uses a stratocaster.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 22, 2024, 02:36:38 PM
Wow so cool! It's Orianthi were we al thought it was Eric Claptop. And my favourite part seems to be played by Joan Armatrading (i expected Eric).
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 22, 2024, 02:36:58 PM
Much better than expected. What a hell of work this must have been to put together.  I think this is a perfect way to show who played what and when. The bigger the letters, the more prominent in the mix. Easy! Very nice!

Astonished that Bruce Springsteen really has many notes to play, really a very long part compared to others.

LE

Bruce Springsteen sounds more like Hank Marvin than Hank Marvin sounds like Hank Marvin.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 22, 2024, 02:40:00 PM
Very cool.
Now we know. Yes Stefan we both were on the wrong path. It was Orianthi. Never thought that.
She has quite a few licks in there. Cool
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 22, 2024, 02:44:41 PM
If I thought the audio was a mess, with this video is even worst! so difficult to follow, the animation doesn't helps...

It was a mess from the start, so no surprise. This intro sounds better though, if only they would trim the ending as well. It makes me wonder how I would do it.

It's of course a topic of discussion, but I would probably make sure to have a list of all the names of players written on the screen, flashing when they are heard, or constantly glowing if they are heard all the time. Maybe something like a tag cloud with a player's name getting bigger. Anyhow, there are some ideas. At least I would make it consistent so it's easier to follow who's playing, which IS the purpose of the video, right? But overall, not bad.

Bottom line, my scores would be: Cause 10/10, Idea 1/10, Recording 6/10, Video 6/10, Design 7/10, so 30/50 — not bad, but could be drastically improved.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 22, 2024, 02:51:21 PM
Well I thought it was great. Third listen and for the first time it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I felt quite emotional, when Tom Morello cam in for some reason.

Surprised that Orianthi is all over it, Joan Jett seems to be providing rhythm the whole way through.

Still not sure what Nile Rodgers is doing. Finally heard Roger Daltrey.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Silvertown on March 22, 2024, 03:06:49 PM
Yes it is messy, but still very helpful. Bruce Springsteen is the biggest surprise for me!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Beryl on March 22, 2024, 03:12:47 PM
Didn't like the track at all but I happen to find the video surprisingly amazing and moving. Elevates the song completely. Congrats to Guy and his people
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: superval99 on March 22, 2024, 03:25:11 PM
I really liked it and I thought that the sound was better than the audio. 
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 22, 2024, 03:30:30 PM
To borrow a well known Liverpudlian phrase, 'That was boss man'...

Love it.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 22, 2024, 03:31:05 PM
woow !!!!

I was wrong on so many suppositions !  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 22, 2024, 03:32:00 PM
Orianthi and Bonamassa sounds so much like EC !

and Bruce a little bit like Hank !
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 22, 2024, 03:32:32 PM
That was great, and seriously a lot of surprises! The video was pretty confusing in places (like I imagine a bad-ass acid trip to be), and some contributors are almost inaudible, but overall it was very helpful. I was surprised by Springsteens contribution (great), and I also liked Orianthi's and Bonamassa's parts a lot (although they are players I normally don't care for). Tom Morello's part too is fantastic.

I said earlier it would be a one-time listening experience for me, but with the video it takes on a whole different dimension. Will listen and watch again.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 22, 2024, 03:50:25 PM
If I thought the audio was a mess, with this video is even worst! so difficult to follow, the animation doesn't helps...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGm7gJtSZE

Accuracy and precision. Thank you  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Nick14 on March 22, 2024, 03:50:36 PM
As a lifelong Bruce fanatic, I was so pleased when I heard he was a part of this. I have always considered him under rated as a guitarist (he started out as a guitar player only). I picked him out when I heard it, but others said I was wrong, that's Hank. Delighted to see confirmation I was right!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 22, 2024, 03:56:40 PM
Much better than expected. What a hell of work this must have been to put together.  I think this is a perfect way to show who played what and when. The bigger the letters, the more prominent in the mix. Easy! Very nice!

Astonished that Bruce Springsteen really has many notes to play, really a very long part compared to others.

LE

Bruce Springsteen sounds more like Hank Marvin than Hank Marvin sounds like Hank Marvin.

I agree that Bruce sounds like a 50s & 60s Hank granted but not Hank of late...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 22, 2024, 03:59:06 PM
As a lifelong Bruce fanatic, I was so pleased when I heard he was a part of this. I have always considered him under rated as a guitarist (he started out as a guitar player only). I picked him out when I heard it, but others said I was wrong, that's Hank. Delighted to see confirmation I was right!

Thing is I knew it was Hank straight away, I guess my ears are accustomed to listening to a lot of Hank a lot of the time!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 22, 2024, 04:21:51 PM
I actually thought Bruce was Duane Eddy, I guess that's probably more what he was going for. :)
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 22, 2024, 04:27:26 PM
I love it. It doesn't sound like the classic Hank of old, but he is still great. I didn't realise Vai was playing so early on, and good that Mark lots in the opening minutes,  Joan Armatrading was sounding good, Orianthi too.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: goon525 on March 22, 2024, 06:15:33 PM
Meanwhile, anyone want to buy a ticket in the sweepstake I’m running as to how many times in the next 24 hours Pavel will feel obliged to say he doesn’t much care for the record?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Elin N on March 22, 2024, 06:27:08 PM
I feel guilty for not feeling excitement about the guitar sounds nor the video, concidered the effort behind it all.
Someone who really SHOULD feel bad, is the people behind TCT's webpage, it is not a single word about the project anywhere! Isn't this whole project for them?! The American page has covered it, but not the British one.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Pierre on March 22, 2024, 06:53:09 PM
Really great!

Many surprises
Orianthi sounds like santana to my ears.

I was hoping to see actual footage of the recording of course but I think it wuold have been next to impossible to mix and edit, this way it's even better, so many things can be so simply conveyed!
Beautiful and I'm going straight back at it
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: privinvest on March 22, 2024, 07:59:36 PM
Much less sublime things became "classic"
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Silvertown on March 22, 2024, 08:53:48 PM
Well I thought it was great. Third listen and for the first time it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I felt quite emotional, when Tom Morello cam in for some reason.

Surprised that Orianthi is all over it, Joan Jett seems to be providing rhythm the whole way through.

Still not sure what Nile Rodgers is doing. Finally heard Roger Daltrey.

Tom is actually very nice, very Tom! Orianthi does also good job here, because her licks fit well and are not as "overplayed" as I would have guessed.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: richardmu on March 22, 2024, 11:03:17 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: privinvest on March 23, 2024, 09:11:00 AM
Hereby i christen the video as "the namedropper video". Ayes? Nays? The ayes have it. Pls someone tell Guy
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: privinvest on March 23, 2024, 10:02:51 AM
Almost always the videos take away from the pleasure one derives from the music by dividing the attention of the listener. This may be one of the rarest exceptions
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on March 23, 2024, 01:03:44 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 23, 2024, 01:05:36 PM
Apparently Clapton plays both acoustic and electric, or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 23, 2024, 01:29:06 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.

I didn’t take that from it at all, unless I was getting confused.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: kaleo74 on March 23, 2024, 02:57:23 PM
David Gilmour doesn't play the melody, which makes his sound more distinctive.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Dutchessy on March 23, 2024, 03:10:23 PM
Apparently Clapton plays both acoustic and electric, or am I wrong?

Yes, that seems correct
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: MagicElliott on March 23, 2024, 04:47:23 PM
I like Joe Brown’s Mandolin part. Good idea to include Mando.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 23, 2024, 05:22:11 PM
And the single ended up at… number 18 on the uk charts.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Silvertown on March 23, 2024, 06:53:30 PM
I like Joe Brown’s Mandolin part. Good idea to include Mando.

Yes, very nice and I like also the following acoustic by Dave Mason.

Now when I have listened the track couple of times with the guidance video, it is difficult to listen it without.

I was also wondering if there were only a few people following the original melody and thus for example the Boss got that long part? (that is nice sounding one though)

I haven't listened that much Jeff Beck, but I think that the guitar tone here is quite awful.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: jbaent on March 23, 2024, 08:28:41 PM
I'm a bit disappointed about Satriani, Vai and Lukather, difficult to recognise and small and no significant parts...
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 23, 2024, 10:29:40 PM
GF:

Bruce really wanted to be on this.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Nick14 on March 24, 2024, 12:45:08 AM
In reply to me!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Robson on March 24, 2024, 02:02:54 AM
In reply to me!

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 24, 2024, 09:50:29 AM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

You need to listen to more up to date Bonamasa my friend - he'll blow your mind! Not only his guitar playing - fast or slow but his vocals are immense
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 24, 2024, 09:51:33 AM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.

I didn't get that feeling...in fact I thought Joe was very masterful, dignified and very melodic in his piece.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 24, 2024, 10:30:56 AM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.

I didn't get that feeling...in fact I thought Joe was very masterful, dignified and very melodic in his piece.

Yes, he can play much louder and faster, if you want... ;D I was on his loudest gig in Kassel some years ago.
Next month Münster. You have to give him a deeper  listen
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dmg on March 24, 2024, 11:46:30 AM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.

I didn't get that feeling...in fact I thought Joe was very masterful, dignified and very melodic in his piece.

Yes, he can play much louder and faster, if you want... ;D I was on his loudest gig in Kassel some years ago.
Next month Münster. You have to give him a deeper  listen

Perhaps the other work I've heard from him is clouding my judgement here but I just can't take to him at all.  Then there's the sunglasses - make him look like a pimp from a '70s B-movie.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: quizzaciously on March 24, 2024, 12:15:58 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.

I didn't get that feeling...in fact I thought Joe was very masterful, dignified and very melodic in his piece.

Yes, he can play much louder and faster, if you want... ;D I was on his loudest gig in Kassel some years ago.
Next month Münster. You have to give him a deeper  listen

Perhaps the other work I've heard from him is clouding my judgement here but I just can't take to him at all.  Then there's the sunglasses - make him look like a pimp from a '70s B-movie.

And add to that a classical, almost maniacal race towards collecting as many vintage guitars as possible on this planet without apparent reason. He can't play them all, dude! Joe is the kind of guy who makes me wish not to ever become a guitar collector. But once you look past all this—fast playing, similar blues lines, shades (which he has reasons to wear just like Mark had reasons to wear a headband), guitar collecting—he's definitely a great man, generous soul, a great player, and a former child prodigy. Joe can play, and nobody will argue with that.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: stratmad on March 24, 2024, 03:36:41 PM
... no ukulele on this song? :hmm
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 24, 2024, 08:00:12 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.

I didn't get that feeling...in fact I thought Joe was very masterful, dignified and very melodic in his piece.

Yes, he can play much louder and faster, if you want... ;D I was on his loudest gig in Kassel some years ago.
Next month Münster. You have to give him a deeper  listen

Perhaps the other work I've heard from him is clouding my judgement here but I just can't take to him at all.  Then there's the sunglasses - make him look like a pimp from a '70s B-movie.

I also can take Bonamassa only in small doses. I truly dislike most of his own music (much due to the production values and simply poor songwriting), his stage persona and the lacking ability to restrain himself when playing solos. BUT - there is no denying he's immensely talented, he can play almost any style at the highest level, and he has great guitar tone. And on the Going Home track, I think he did a fabulous job. Or at least Guy picked parts that fit really well. Nothing over the top. None of those rapid-fire pentatonic runs (Super Mario music!), just a tasteful mix of melodic and bluesy lines.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 25, 2024, 08:11:05 AM
I like Joe Brown’s Mandolin part. Good idea to include Mando.

Yes, very nice and I like also the following acoustic by Dave Mason.

Now when I have listened the track couple of times with the guidance video, it is difficult to listen it without.

I was also wondering if there were only a few people following the original melody and thus for example the Boss got that long part? (that is nice sounding one though)

I haven't listened that much Jeff Beck, but I think that the guitar tone here is quite awful.

I agrre about Jeff Beck, It didn't really do much for me I'm afraid :o I much prefer Mark's original opening, maybe David Gilmour playing that intro would have worked better, for me.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Marnix on March 25, 2024, 02:36:10 PM
Is the dairy from Guy about the recording online
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 25, 2024, 02:37:52 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.

He just confirmed what I already thought about him - he has to show off all the time, playing louder and faster than anyone else.

I didn't get that feeling...in fact I thought Joe was very masterful, dignified and very melodic in his piece.

Yes, he can play much louder and faster, if you want... ;D I was on his loudest gig in Kassel some years ago.
Next month Münster. You have to give him a deeper  listen

Perhaps the other work I've heard from him is clouding my judgement here but I just can't take to him at all.  Then there's the sunglasses - make him look like a pimp from a '70s B-movie.

Hahahaha, no different Joe wearing sunglasses to someone we know wearing a sweat band on their head! Both practical reasons even if it makes you look like a tennis player!!
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Iron Hand on March 25, 2024, 07:01:33 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.
Bonamassa has really grown and matured a lot over the last couple of years (also as a singer and songwriter). I'm taking him seriously now, which I certainly didn't back in 2008-ish and for a long time afterwards.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Silvertown on March 25, 2024, 07:05:00 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.
Bonamassa has really grown and matured a lot over the last couple of years (also as a singer and songwriter). I'm taking him seriously now, which I certainly didn't back in 2008-ish and for a long time afterwards.

Maybe I should take a listen. I also remember him playing too many notes too fast.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 25, 2024, 08:21:23 PM
I come out of this with a new appreciation for Bonamassa, unbelievable tone.
Bonamassa has really grown and matured a lot over the last couple of years (also as a singer and songwriter). I'm taking him seriously now, which I certainly didn't back in 2008-ish and for a long time afterwards.

He really has. Have you listened to his work with the Black Country Communion or Rock Candy Funk Party? Amazing stuff. As for his solo work, he seriously should get together with a different producer and hire great songwriters.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 26, 2024, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from Steve Vai:

"In this new video that was made for 'Going Home', the names of all the various guitar players come onto the screen when their riffs are played. It’s so beautiful to hear all the different and distinct tones that match the players. I was honored beyond beyond when I received the invitation to contribute to this historical track. Check out the new video for 'Going Home'."

High praise from Steve there, it just shows me the respect Mark has from other great players.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 26, 2024, 10:29:22 AM
Nice. I saw a tweet from Ringo promoting the record the other day as well.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: Vesper on March 26, 2024, 11:07:43 AM
Is the dairy from Guy about the recording online

No, Guy said it would appear at the same time as the video but it obviously didn't.
Looking forward to it though.
Title: Re: Teenage Cancer Trust /Buddy Holly Fundation charity project
Post by: JF on March 27, 2024, 05:26:53 PM
Nice. I saw a tweet from Ringo promoting the record the other day as well.

Pete Townshend shared it on FB