A Mark In Time
General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: dustyvalentino on March 07, 2022, 04:26:05 PM
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I'd recommend Jack's new podcast.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3MuYXJ0MTkuY29tL3RoZS1sZWlzdXJlLWNsYXNz?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwiIgqzNibT2AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ&hl=en-GB
A random selection of guests and topics but entertaining, Jack is a great host.
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thnx for the tip
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Jack talks about DS in the latest episode.
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listening now. thnx
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Last Jack Sonni's podcast is about joining Dire Straits:
https://art19.com/shows/the-leisure-class/episodes/5e6debf9-de14-494f-b3e4-8505a74122c6
Next week, the second part.
Thanks to Dusty for the alert!
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This was a good listen, Jack’s a great strotyteller! However, I think this thread should be under Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum topic.
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There are other chapters talking about his gigs in South America with DS Legacy, are they interesting, if any of you listened to them?
https://art19.com/shows/the-leisure-class/episodes/4d2c040b-442c-4f20-a317-600e2bafb456
https://art19.com/shows/the-leisure-class/episodes/e19467da-c36b-48d5-989b-af8bd568d805
They look short, maybe if I have a gap during the morning I will check them.
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Well, he’s planning on doing an episode with Alan and Phil. You can also listen this podcast on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/show/4ichMt3fvzlJiCZEIZ4aeE?si=YZKybv8tQ8O56qA8MNMAHQ
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There are other chapters talking about his gigs in South America with DS Legacy, are they interesting, if any of you listened to them?
https://art19.com/shows/the-leisure-class/episodes/4d2c040b-442c-4f20-a317-600e2bafb456
https://art19.com/shows/the-leisure-class/episodes/e19467da-c36b-48d5-989b-af8bd568d805
They look short, maybe if I have a gap during the morning I will check them.
I've listened to every episode, it's not always about music but I've always found it entertaining.
The DS Legacy eps were very short, seemed like filler while he was away on tour.
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This was a good listen, Jack’s a great strotyteller! However, I think this thread should be under Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum topic.
Disagree, this thread is about Jack's podcast and most episodes make no reference to DS or MK. :)
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2nd part of his DS story is up.
Warning, it's pretty devastating...
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2nd part of his DS story is up.
Warning, it's pretty devastating...
Yes, pretty. I never understood how MK behaved with him. So dissapointed that a friend does this to you.
It's like setting me up lyrics...
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I don't see the problem. Jack is/was responsible for his own dreams and career. I think Mark inviting him to play with DS opened up many chances and possibilities. Still, it sounds like he just waited until something happened out of the blue by just being at some place (which rarely happens), thinking people were waiting in line to work with him, instead of proactively seeking and chasing opportunities. Mark was already ten steps ahead and moved on. He never wants to live somebody else's dream. With a bit of people skills, Jack should have known Mark was never going to spend a lot of time helping or even starting a new guitar-centric band with him.
And then one other thing. If you're the only member in DS having enough time to see things in the audience that the others don't see, you are way too busy with being a rockstar. Sure they were huge then, but playing MK's music requires an tremendous focus. For MK it's all about the music, and I think he saw very early on Jack had other interests.
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I don't see the problem. Jack is/was responsible for his own dreams and career. I think Mark inviting him to play with DS opened up many chances and possibilities. Still, it sounds like he just waited until something happened out of the blue by just being at some place (which rarely happens), thinking people were waiting in line to work with him, instead of proactively seeking and chasing opportunities. Mark was already ten steps ahead and moved on. He never wants to live somebody else's dream. With a bit of people skills, Jack should have known Mark was never going to spend a lot of time helping or even starting a new guitar-centric band with him.
And then one other thing. If you're the only member in DS having enough time to see things in the audience that the others don't see, you are way too busy with being a rockstar. Sure they were huge then, but playing MK's music requires an tremendous focus. For MK it's all about the music, and I think he saw very early on Jack had other interests.
I agree with you
and I don't appreciate people talking about personal things in public when it involves someone who can't tell their side of the story
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Actually MK told Jack about many projects to work with him in the future, and then, nothing, like he doesn't exists.
It amazes me how, whatever MK does, doesn't matter how wrong it is, he is always the one who is right. And the rest are the ones to blame.
Amazing.
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Actually MK told Jack about many projects to work with him in the future, and then, nothing, like he doesn't exists.
It amazes me how, whatever MK does, doesn't matter how wrong it is, he is always the one who is right. And the rest are the ones to blame.
Amazing.
Not always! I'm pretty sure even MK gets bullied or ignored by somebody, we just never heard about it.
It's normal behaviour to me, people get closer and part ways all the time, no reasons needed.
I sometimes find myself ignoring certain people and can't help it. That's life!
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Nobody owes Jack a living but, at least in the way jack tells it, MK was basically his best buddy for a while, got his hopes up by saying they would continue to work together professionally, and then "ghosted" him, to use modern parlance. And that was a pretty shitty thing to do.
Although to be fair to MK, and Jack doesn't say this in his latest podcast, presumably for dramatic effect, MK did in fact invite Jack back to play what was probably the biggest gig DS ever did, the Mandela show. Jack couldn't make it, for absolutely the right reasons, but even then MK gave Jack a shout out in front of an audience of billions or whatever!
So two sides to the story I guess...
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Nobody owes Jack a living but, at least in the way jack tells it, MK was basically his best buddy for a while, got his hopes up by saying they would continue to work together professionally, and then "ghosted" him, to use modern parlance. And that was a pretty shitty thing to do.
Although to be fair to MK, and Jack doesn't say this in his latest podcast, presumably for dramatic effect, MK did in fact invite Jack back to play what was probably the biggest gig DS ever did, the Mandela show. Jack couldn't make it, for absolutely the right reasons, but even then MK gave Jack a shout out in front of an audience of billions or whatever!
So two sides to the story I guess...
I asked Jack once about the Mandela show, and he told me he never got a call to play that gig. That last time he heard about Mk was that time in LA he tells in the podcast.
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I have a memory of Jack saying in one of these interviews that he was invited but he said he couldn't make it because his twins were due. (The invite came from management, not MK personally).
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I have a memory of Jack saying in one of these interviews that he was invited but he said he couldn't make it because his twins were due. (The invite came from management, not MK personally).
Maybe he meant he wasn't called by MK, and that's why Jack always says the last time he knew about MK was that day on LA.
I totally understand Jack dissapoinment, when he was told by his friend that they would have some projects and then being "ghosted", is not that you are losing a job, is that you are losing a friend, because job, he got more jobs, as far as I know, he went to work on Line6 amps.
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Jack just answered me on FB, management called him:
They did. Hadn't heard from them in close to two years before that phone call. No need to go into the details of that ridiculous exchange. I wasn't available to do the gig because as I said at the time, "I know Nelson Mandela is a very good man but I'm not going to miss the birth of my twin daughters for anyone. I'm sure he'll understand."
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Jack just answered me on FB, management called him:
They did. Hadn't heard from them in close to two years before that phone call. No need to go into the details of that ridiculous exchange. I wasn't available to do the gig because as I said at the time, "I know Nelson Mandela is a very good man but I'm not going to miss the birth of my twin daughters for anyone. I'm sure he'll understand."
In the first place, could looks nice that they called him for the Mandela gig, but this sentence:
"No need to go into the details of that ridiculous exchange"
Makes me think it wasn't that nice, maybe it was something formal and he detected wasn't a honest request, or was still hurted by the way MK treated him before that, and already move on on his mind.
Of course being a dad very recently makes it a good excuse to say no, but I guess he would had said no anyway, specially by what he said about that call from management.
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How lucky that he refused to play the Mandela concert, we got Clapton instead ! :)
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How lucky that he refused to play the Mandela concert, we got Clapton instead ! :)
true dat actually.
still, as Mark will NEVER spend time on this topic, we will always only hear the one side, as mentioned here previously as well. so,...
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also, he keeps saying 256 shows. i was always convinced that it was 248 shows?
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also, he keeps saying 256 shows. i was always convinced that it was 248 shows?
you're talking about BIA tour ?
Jeroen says 237 : http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/tourdates_1985_1986.htm
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also, he keeps saying 256 shows. i was always convinced that it was 248 shows?
you're talking about BIA tour ?
Jeroen says 237 : http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/tourdates_1985_1986.htm
for years now i have had 248 in my head. must check once again....