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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: nando_5994 on October 29, 2022, 03:10:05 PM

Title: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: nando_5994 on October 29, 2022, 03:10:05 PM
One of my favourite songs from the 'On Every Street' album. We played it occasionally on the tour, but not often. John Anderson had a hit with it, and we performed it with John on stage one night, which was an honour.
I am a huge fan of Jeff Porcaro. What an honour it was to reproduce his drum parts on the 1 1/2 year long tour.
I've copied Jeff's performance of WICTY, including some interesting drum fills, especially in the guitar solo where he plays ride cymbal on an offbeat, instead of a crash on the downbeat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvdhwOYcc0Y
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: hunter on October 29, 2022, 05:09:20 PM
Love it! One of my favorite tracks from that album too. Lovely touch with the ride there, too.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 29, 2022, 07:54:10 PM
Absolutely amazing! One of my faves on the OES album! And Live too!!!
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: herlock on October 29, 2022, 08:04:34 PM
This track does nothing for me. Just like "who's your baby now" on STP...

But I'm glad to see Chris enjoying himslef playing it. I thought his memories from the OES tour were not that great...
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: JF on October 30, 2022, 09:53:19 AM
This track does nothing for me. Just like "who's your baby now" on STP...

 :o :o

I love that song, one of my fav on the album
so much JJ Cale influence, the riff doubled on the national, the lead guitar, Mark's voice...

nothing to compare with "Who's your baby now" which I agree is a weak song
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: herlock on October 30, 2022, 09:57:05 AM
I'm not saying that the songs are similar, just that have a similar effect on me, which is close to zero. Matter of taste... :) I feel that OES album was stuck between country-like songs (not really my taste) and weak rockers like Heavy Fuel, which makes it an heterogeneous album... But CE, OES, Iron Hand, YAYF and PONO really shine!
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: dmg on October 30, 2022, 12:13:41 PM
He also does CE on his channel which is a bit more interesting I think.

I really like this song.  I can understand some may find it boring though, just as I did initially, however over the years it has grown on me.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: ds1984 on October 30, 2022, 01:21:23 PM
Once I heard the NHB live performance from the Snape gig I could not listen to the DS version anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ppQ2_5WsY
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: superval99 on October 30, 2022, 02:53:19 PM
Once I heard the NHB live performance from the Snape gig I could not listen to the DS version anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ppQ2_5WsY

I like them both, but especially the NHB version.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: JF on October 31, 2022, 12:31:26 AM
I far prefer the DS version

NHB version is way too much country for my taste. I miss the laid back /JJ Cale atmosphere
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: Robson on October 31, 2022, 02:33:37 AM
But for example, Water Of Love TNH is phenomenal:)
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: peterromer on October 31, 2022, 10:13:43 AM
Great - thanks for sharing. ;)
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: superval99 on October 31, 2022, 12:07:15 PM
But for example, Water Of Love TNH is phenomenal:)

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: Robson on October 31, 2022, 12:19:01 PM
Of course, a version with acoustics that was not ready at the beginning :)
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: Knut on October 31, 2022, 05:06:31 PM
You and your friend wasn't played THAT often, according to the bootleg sources :)

Maybe slightly off topic, but maybe CW remembers what songs they rehearsed and never played during the tour? I mean, there were some odd ones at the very start, So far away played twice and so on. Who knows what was considered as a part of the show.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 31, 2022, 07:10:32 PM
As a folk/country/rock fan, the Notting Hillbillies were just the perfect group for me. All of their songs are great, especially their versions of the Straits songs are great.
Unfortunately I never got the chance to see them live. Luckily there are many videos on You Tube that show me what a great time these guys had together on stage. You can hear that with every song.
Too bad there is only one studio album.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: Robson on October 31, 2022, 07:26:02 PM
Oh yes! I also always regretted that there was no second TNH album and I always missed the song Hobo's Lullaby on the album.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 01, 2022, 09:32:18 AM
As a folk/country/rock fan, the Notting Hillbillies were just the perfect group for me. All of their songs are great, especially their versions of the Straits songs are great.
Unfortunately I never got the chance to see them live. Luckily there are many videos on You Tube that show me what a great time these guys had together on stage. You can hear that with every song.
Too bad there is only one studio album.

Saw them 4 times in 97/98/99, all great gigs in small venues, especially Ronnie Scott's!
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: hunter on November 01, 2022, 11:47:58 AM
Saw them 4 times in 97/98/99, all great gigs in small venues, especially Ronnie Scott's!


So envious of that.

What I like about the NH performances is how relaxed Mark is when he doesn't have to carry the show alone. Great playing. The on-stage banter too is legendary. Of all the MK live recordings, including DS, the NH shows are my favorites to revisit.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: JF on November 01, 2022, 12:22:38 PM
But for example, Water Of Love TNH is phenomenal:)

I prefer 96 versions with the Les Paul

and I like very much the original version too
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: superval99 on November 01, 2022, 12:44:29 PM
I've seen NHB three times - 1993, 1997 and 1998 and each time they were wonderful.   I also loved the banter onstage and I felt that MK was like a different person to when he played with DS, for example.  He was so laid back.   
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 01, 2022, 01:20:45 PM
But for example, Water Of Love TNH is phenomenal:)

I prefer 96 versions with the Les Paul

and I like very much the original version too

I think it was the black Suhr in 96?
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: hunter on November 01, 2022, 02:08:35 PM
But for example, Water Of Love TNH is phenomenal:)

I prefer 96 versions with the Les Paul

and I like very much the original version too

I think it was the black Suhr in 96?


LP for Water of Love, and black Pensa-Suhr for Vic and Ray (and maybe others?).
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 01, 2022, 02:39:38 PM
My recollection (from 26 years ago!) is that it was the black Suhr on Water of Love, On Every Bootleg says so as well, but could be wrong. :)
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: hunter on November 01, 2022, 02:49:32 PM
My recollection (from 26 years ago!) is that it was the black Suhr on Water of Love, On Every Bootleg says so as well, but could be wrong. :)


Maybe he used the Pensa-Suhr some nights? All the YouTube clips I've seen showed him using a LP.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: JF on November 01, 2022, 03:34:22 PM
My recollection (from 26 years ago!) is that it was the black Suhr on Water of Love, On Every Bootleg says so as well, but could be wrong. :)

in Lyon july 96, I am 100% sure it was the LP on Water of love. he didn't play Vic and Ray at that gig

but of course he could have played WOL with this guitar on other gigs in 96  :)
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: ds1984 on November 01, 2022, 07:16:43 PM
I far prefer the DS version

NHB version is way too much country for my taste. I miss the laid back /JJ Cale atmosphere

I prefer the NHB version especially for it sounding so country.
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 01, 2022, 07:36:11 PM
I far prefer the DS version

NHB version is way too much country for my taste. I miss the laid back /JJ Cale atmosphere

I prefer the NHB version especially for it sounding so country.

Oooh yes the NHB version is epic! It's so 'dry' on OES....
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: schmonka on November 03, 2022, 09:28:27 PM
You and your friend wasn't played THAT often, according to the bootleg sources :)

Maybe slightly off topic, but maybe CW remembers what songs they rehearsed and never played during the tour? I mean, there were some odd ones at the very start, So far away played twice and so on. Who knows what was considered as a part of the show.

I'd be keen for another soundboard or half-decent copy of YAYF from the OES tour.  There is the OTN version, I have one from Munich '91, but the quality isn't great.  YouTube also has some pretty poor-quality versions - any decent recommendations out there in bootleg world?
Title: Re: Chris Whitten - When It Comes To You - Dire Straits/Jeff Porcaro
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 04, 2022, 10:02:21 AM
Dead Jeff Porcaro made more money than dead John Lennon last year:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2022/10/31/the-highest-paid-dead-celebrities-of-2022-a-writer-earns-half-a-billion-from-the-great-beyond/?sh=4d5f06912bb3