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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Brunno Nunes on December 22, 2022, 12:08:19 AM

Title: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on December 22, 2022, 12:08:19 AM
Look how wonderful I found it, an anticipated Christmas preeentr for all of us!!!!!!! ;)

   There is material hidden out there that we didn't even dream of... an almost 3 month tour on a continent by the biggest band on the planet at the time, there had to be more recording besides the last one in Sydney 86.

And the most amazing thing is that it is a Soundboard recording

https://youtu.be/gZo6ntw9pK8 (https://youtu.be/gZo6ntw9pK8)


From what I understand, it is being posted in parts, it is a dvd file and possibly it can have the complete show, a good part of the concert.

Just look at the guitar that Mark uses in Ride Across The River, he started using this guitar in Australia in 1986

He with slightly shorter hair than at Wembley 85 for example, looking at this photo, it is probably at the beginning of the bands tour of Australia in February 1986

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg75q4POWt3/?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY= (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg75q4POWt3/?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY=)

 See the guitar that Mark used in Ride Across The River 1986 (what a wonderful version), Jack doing a different solo in Expresso Love... Sensational!!!

let's appreciate!!! :wave
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on December 22, 2022, 12:15:53 AM
Other part

https://youtu.be/9vAlvwAxS-g (https://youtu.be/9vAlvwAxS-g)


Maybe we'll have the chance to see a video version of Telegraph Road during the BIA tour in 1986, just like the one they played in , Christchurch, New Zealand- 1986... One more Industrial Disease, or One World, one more lovely So Far Away, Calypso version, or maybe another version of Your Latest Trick... Anyway... looking forward to more!!!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on December 22, 2022, 12:17:26 AM
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxCEOrUPyA_G3XeE6w4iI5y1OGhyekt1It (https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxCEOrUPyA_G3XeE6w4iI5y1OGhyekt1It)

These sounds emulated by the synthesizers in this song are absolutely amazing, very atmospheric, a unique mood.

They started doing this in December 1985, it's great, it adds so much to the song, beautiful subtlety.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Skinny Kid on December 22, 2022, 01:53:29 AM
Oh what a find !  Merry Christmas, indeed !!!!!

Thanks a lot. It's amazing   :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: hunter on December 22, 2022, 10:38:23 AM
Awesome!


Do I have to buy a toy guitar to enjoy it?  ;D
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 22, 2022, 12:03:41 PM
Awesome!


Do I have to buy a toy guitar to enjoy it?  ;D

Lol
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: dmg on December 22, 2022, 06:13:35 PM
He has kindly uploaded the 2nd video now with Sultans complete:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvqjjku1OWQ
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: KnopfleRick on December 22, 2022, 08:53:48 PM
Wow, absolutely great. What a gem!
Thanks for sharing!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: the visitor on December 24, 2022, 12:00:06 AM
These recordings are insanely good and much, much appreciated.

Ride Across the River is one of my favourite songs of this tour as the end is always different and I've heard probably about 100 versions of this song. The version captured here is amongst the best,  if not the best for me.  The interplay with the synths as people have said can be heard in the Dec 1985 versions but is much more developed here. Also some different hammond organ parts if you listen carefully.

The camerawork is really good, captures the band at ease and very fluid in performance.  Very lucky to be seeing this  I really hope for more.  Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: dmg on December 24, 2022, 12:53:41 PM
These recordings are insanely good and much, much appreciated.

Ride Across the River is one of my favourite songs of this tour as the end is always different and I've heard probably about 100 versions of this song. The version captured here is amongst the best,  if not the best for me.  The interplay with the synths as people have said can be heard in the Dec 1985 versions but is much more developed here. Also some different hammond organ parts if you listen carefully.

The camerawork is really good, captures the band at ease and very fluid in performance.  Very lucky to be seeing this  I really hope for more.  Thanks for sharing

Totally agree about RATR.  I must have listened to it about a dozen times now - fabulous version!  Lots of new things in there for us all to hear.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: ds1984 on December 24, 2022, 01:44:59 PM
Was it done in purpose to prepare the live broadcast?
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Knopflerfan on December 24, 2022, 05:52:19 PM
He has kindly uploaded the 2nd video now with Sultans complete:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvqjjku1OWQ

WOW!!! What a fantastic Chrissy pressie to us all!!!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on December 27, 2022, 02:31:40 AM
These recordings are insanely good and much, much appreciated.

Ride Across the River is one of my favourite songs of this tour as the end is always different and I've heard probably about 100 versions of this song. The version captured here is amongst the best,  if not the best for me.  The interplay with the synths as people have said can be heard in the Dec 1985 versions but is much more developed here. Also some different hammond organ parts if you listen carefully.

The camerawork is really good, captures the band at ease and very fluid in performance.  Very lucky to be seeing this  I really hope for more.  Thanks for sharing


I completely agree with you, RATR is the song that most caught my attention on the BIA tour, especially the ending, which develops more and more as the tour progresses, the song gets longer, richer in atmosphere and in December she gets this extra layer of synths which is something that makes the song even more amazing and unique. With this video we can see that it continues to develop even more in 1986, this version in particular is probably my favorite in terms of sound experience, I know these songs in detail, I know the characteristics of many of them in each stage of the same tour and I can say that this version really has something very special among the almost 100 bootlegs that exist from 85/86.
We hope that soon the other songs of this concert will appear, who knows Telegraph Road for our ecstasy, imagine TOL too which is always a pearl...
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: peterromer on December 27, 2022, 11:28:55 AM
THANKS BINONE - great effort.

 
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: superval99 on December 27, 2022, 12:23:32 PM
Many thanks for this great Christmas present!   
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Peter1981 on December 27, 2022, 12:49:48 PM
great stuff, but...is it just me, or is the audio the left side only? The right side is silent.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: superval99 on December 27, 2022, 01:15:21 PM
great stuff, but...is it just me, or is the audio the left side only? The right side is silent.

I think you are correct.  I can feel the left speaker on my computer vibrating, but not the right one and I don't think any sound is coming out of the right speaker.   
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Klaus74 on December 27, 2022, 02:10:26 PM
Hello Bruno. Yes, a really good find.
A dream will come true, if some Telegraph Road versions from BIA-Tour 1986 Australian and New Zealand-Leg, can be explored. According to the tour-schedule of BIA Tour Aussie and New Zealand Leg from February till April 1986 there were a lot of shows on the fifth continent, so maybe some other concert-attendants there have recorded some other shows on audio or video source in those days.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on December 27, 2022, 07:13:47 PM
Hello Bruno. Yes, a really good find.
A dream will come true, if some Telegraph Road versions from BIA-Tour 1986 Australian and New Zealand-Leg, can be explored. According to the tour-schedule of BIA Tour Aussie and New Zealand Leg from February till April 1986 there were a lot of shows on the fifth continent, so maybe some other concert-attendants there have recorded some other shows on audio or video source in those days.

When I found these videos, my eyes couldn't believe it, it was a big surprise, all the versions are incredible, Expresso Love is very good to hear Alan's pianos, it's very clear and it's not easy to pick up all that, those higher notes... One of the clearest registers for this analysis I've ever heard, the synths at the end of Ride Across The River create a unique mood throughout Dire Straits' trajectory, a great atmospheric experience. It was certainly filmed in its entirety, little by little he should publish more videos. Looking forward to Telegraph Road, it's going to be impactful for all of us!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Klaus74 on December 27, 2022, 08:57:24 PM
Yes, it will be great to get in touch with an unexplored "Live in 86" live-version of Telegraph Road. Do you have some more additional information on the subject of that recordings. Is the concert-date or the venue currently known ?
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: ds1984 on December 27, 2022, 09:14:21 PM
Sultan is fantastic.
If only a multi track recording could exist I would erase Alan keyborad on the first half of the song and publish it that way.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: the visitor on December 27, 2022, 11:40:45 PM
great stuff, but...is it just me, or is the audio the left side only? The right side is silent.

I think you are correct.  I can feel the left speaker on my computer vibrating, but not the right one and I don't think any sound is coming out of the right speaker.

You are correct, only audio on one channel. It is a mono feed though into that channel so you get all the instruments
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: pc0000002 on December 28, 2022, 12:28:56 PM
Wow that's great, I was only thinking today I wish there was clear vision of the blue Pensa Suhr Synclavier guitar, and what do you know, some appears! Apparently leading into the broadcast (which I apparently watched live at age 2 - and was transfixed), there were 3 shows in Sydney (23-24-25 Apr), as someone stated I wonder if this footage is from those? Or earlier in the tour as someone else said? Either way, let's hope we get TR!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on December 28, 2022, 05:27:57 PM
Only the show in Sydney, on April 26, 1986, was televised. This show is at the start of the 1986 Australia tour, notice it's just a camera, Mark has slightly shorter hair that Sydney 86, then, was between February and March 86.
Wow that's great, I was only thinking today I wish there was clear vision of the blue Pensa Suhr Synclavier guitar, and what do you know, some appears! Apparently leading into the broadcast (which I apparently watched live at age 2 - and was transfixed), there were 3 shows in Sydney (23-24-25 Apr), as someone stated I wonder if this footage is from those? Or earlier in the tour as someone else said? Either way, let's hope we get TR!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: JF on December 28, 2022, 07:42:36 PM
great. thanks for sharing

but in the same time, Pink Floyd has published officially 18 (yes 18 !) shows from their 1972 tour...  ::) ::)

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/pink-floyd-publie-sans-prevenir-18-concerts-inedits-de-1972-epoque-the-dark-side-of-the-moon_5558466.html

Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: ds1984 on December 28, 2022, 09:53:32 PM
great. thanks for sharing

but in the same time, Pink Floyd has published officially 18 (yes 18 !) shows from their 1972 tour...  ::) ::)

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/pink-floyd-publie-sans-prevenir-18-concerts-inedits-de-1972-epoque-the-dark-side-of-the-moon_5558466.html

These are published for copyright extension, and prevent the recording from entering the public domain
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: jbaent on December 28, 2022, 10:07:32 PM
great. thanks for sharing

but in the same time, Pink Floyd has published officially 18 (yes 18 !) shows from their 1972 tour...  ::) ::)

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/pink-floyd-publie-sans-prevenir-18-concerts-inedits-de-1972-epoque-the-dark-side-of-the-moon_5558466.html

These are published for copyright extension, and prevent the recording from entering the public domain

It doesn't matter why these are released, is important that are released!

I would be happy if for legal reasons some DS concerts have to be released. Those would be much welcomed.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: hunter on December 29, 2022, 03:50:26 AM
great stuff, but...is it just me, or is the audio the left side only? The right side is silent.

I think you are correct.  I can feel the left speaker on my computer vibrating, but not the right one and I don't think any sound is coming out of the right speaker.

You are correct, only audio on one channel. It is a mono feed though into that channel so you get all the instruments


Change your audio settings to Mono, and it sounds a lot better: For Windows https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/make-windows-easier-to-hear-9c18cfdc-63be-2d47-0f4f-5b00facfd2e1#WindowsVersion=Windows_10


Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: hunter on December 29, 2022, 04:01:57 AM
I like Ride Across the River, but I think it was a strange choice for the opening song. Too laidback and "depressing". On the album, though, it works perfectly as the opener on side B.

If you could choose another opener, what would that be? I think So Far Away, esp. with the calypso intro, would set the tone perfectly.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: wakeywakey on December 29, 2022, 08:17:53 AM
I like Ride Across the River, but I think it was a strange choice for the opening song. Too laidback and "depressing". On the album, though, it works perfectly as the opener on side B.

If you could choose another opener, what would that be? I think So Far Away, esp. with the calypso intro, would set the tone perfectly.

I think it was a great opener and the best choice from BIA.
I don't find the song depressing but the album does have an overt theme of sadness so it's not surprising if anyone does.
DS had really good openers in DTTW and OUATITW and Ride is almost as good.I wasn't a fan of Calling Elvis opening but then it came from their weakest album so choices from that were limited.
Of his solo tours I was particularly fond of Border Reiver and What It Is as openers so I guess MK has gotten it right about half the time when opening the show :)
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: hunter on December 29, 2022, 12:04:52 PM
I think it was a great opener and the best choice from BIA.
I don't find the song depressing but the album does have an overt theme of sadness so it's not surprising if anyone does.
DS had really good openers in DTTW and OUATITW and Ride is almost as good.I wasn't a fan of Calling Elvis opening but then it came from their weakest album so choices from that were limited.
Of his solo tours I was particularly fond of Border Reiver and What It Is as openers so I guess MK has gotten it right about half the time when opening the show :)


True, the album is low-key (mostly) and has a sad, wistful tone – depressing was a poor word choice – but that's hardly a good basis for a whole show  ;D  In my opinion, songs like RATR work really well mid-show, when you want to take things down a notch.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: dmg on December 29, 2022, 12:42:27 PM
I think Ride allowed them to set the atmosphere in the hall with the lights and synths, then flute followed by the full band and Mark walking out into the limelight as the song sprung into life.  It also provided a chance for Mark and the band to warm up with some solos.  In that sense it worked well, but I get the point that it wasn't exactly upbeat.
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Post by: Robson on December 29, 2022, 05:22:24 PM
I think Calling Elvis was great. In 1991/92 and 2001.
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Post by: ds1984 on December 29, 2022, 08:30:06 PM
I still don't really like RATR, both studio or live version, but the way they used it to open the show did the job IMHO.

Of course, if Mark had wanted a catchier start like they will do in 91/92, MFN or WOL would have been perfect choice.



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Post by: dustyvalentino on December 30, 2022, 09:06:59 AM
I agree that it’s an odd choice to open with.

I always think you should open with something upbeat to get the crowd going.

Walk of Life would have been my choice in 85.
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Post by: JF on December 30, 2022, 02:30:32 PM
I think Calling Elvis was great. In 1991/92 and 2001.

to my taste, 96 versions were the best ones, although not openers
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: JF on December 30, 2022, 02:37:46 PM
I agree that it’s an odd choice to open with.

I always think you should open with something upbeat to get the crowd going.

Walk of Life would have been my choice in 85.

it has been only once for Mandela gig in 88

I like the way RATR opened the shows : ambient, almost mystery atmopshere... and then suddenly the guitar comes in
it was the same thing with Once upon a time : smooth melody on keyboard, ambient-cinematographic music, and then Mark cames in with his guitar
and it was the same thing with Waterline : calm pace, sounds of the flaghorn, and then... full band with energetic rhythm
well you can see that Mark liked that way to open the shows
He did the same with Border reiver : calm celtic music before the whole band came in

I like when music "build's up"

he did almost the same on the ANIL show with celtic instruments playing before the start of Darling Pretty, like on the album.
But on the rest of the tour, the song started imediately with Richard's acoustic guitar
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Terry01 on January 12, 2023, 12:52:06 PM
He posted a new fragment of the gig! Unfortunately, has some less quality. But anyway..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Pottel on January 12, 2023, 03:43:51 PM
great. thanks for sharing

but in the same time, Pink Floyd has published officially 18 (yes 18 !) shows from their 1972 tour...  ::) ::)

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/pink-floyd-publie-sans-prevenir-18-concerts-inedits-de-1972-epoque-the-dark-side-of-the-moon_5558466.html

These are published for copyright extension, and prevent the recording from entering the public domain

It doesn't matter why these are released, is important that are released!

I would be happy if for legal reasons some DS concerts have to be released. Those would be much welcomed.
no you would not if they would handle it the same way PF did, in fact there are far better versions in fans hands of these Floyd shows then what they decided to "release" it is a disgrace.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: ds1984 on January 12, 2023, 09:30:10 PM
in fact there are far better versions in fans hands of these Floyd shows then what they decided to "release" it is a disgrace.

They did it right. They were posted for copyright extension so they had to find the dirtiest versions to make them useless.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: the visitor on January 12, 2023, 11:32:13 PM
He posted a new fragment of the gig! Unfortunately, has some less quality. But anyway..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0

This is great, sound is now in mono but a bit more muffled than the last one.

Includes MFN, BIA and the short version of Tunnel of Love.  Who is the geezer with Alan playing keyboards in Brothers in Arms during his solo??
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: JF on January 13, 2023, 07:47:23 AM
He posted a new fragment of the gig! Unfortunately, has some less quality. But anyway..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0

This is great, sound is now in mono but a bit more muffled than the last one.

Includes MFN, BIA and the short version of Tunnel of Love.  Who is the geezer with Alan playing keyboards in Brothers in Arms during his solo??

Ron Eve ?
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: the visitor on January 14, 2023, 01:15:45 PM
He posted a new fragment of the gig! Unfortunately, has some less quality. But anyway..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0

This is great, sound is now in mono but a bit more muffled than the last one.

Includes MFN, BIA and the short version of Tunnel of Love.  Who is the geezer with Alan playing keyboards in Brothers in Arms during his solo??

Ron Eve ?

Yes I think you are right. Looks exactly like him in his tour pass photo

http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/tourpasses_BIA.htm
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: JF on January 14, 2023, 04:23:02 PM
He posted a new fragment of the gig! Unfortunately, has some less quality. But anyway..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0

This is great, sound is now in mono but a bit more muffled than the last one.

Includes MFN, BIA and the short version of Tunnel of Love.  Who is the geezer with Alan playing keyboards in Brothers in Arms during his solo??

Ron Eve ?

Yes I think you are right. Looks exactly like him in his tour pass photo

http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/tourpasses_BIA.htm

and it was already him who holt the organ key at the end of the TOL intro in 80-81 (at 3:02 in the video) :

https://youtu.be/o5cIg2hKud0?t=175
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: hunter on January 14, 2023, 09:49:24 PM
He posted a new fragment of the gig! Unfortunately, has some less quality. But anyway..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0)


Man, if I never hear MFN again, I will not cry. And this version in particular is pure crap to my ears, and no I'm not talking about the audio quality.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: dmg on January 16, 2023, 05:54:00 PM
He posted a new fragment of the gig! Unfortunately, has some less quality. But anyway..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6IZUb51v0)


Man, if I never hear MFN again, I will not cry. And this version in particular is pure crap to my ears, and no I'm not talking about the audio quality.

I have to say that the energy in performance (of MFN), especially vocals and guitar tone is much better on this tour than on any other since.  Not to mention the sheer professionalism musically during this tour which was exemplary.

BIA is outstanding here.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Kris-b on January 16, 2023, 07:00:55 PM
Here is some more! Haven‘t watched it yet

https://youtu.be/rCaz8JHPyJY
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: rmarques821 on January 16, 2023, 07:52:20 PM
This is from Auckland, as he says in So Far Away. This is either 1st of March 1986 or 2nd March. We can fix the title to New Zealand now
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Kris-b on January 16, 2023, 07:53:50 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: rmarques821 on January 16, 2023, 08:10:36 PM
According to setlist.fm, So Far Away was played on the 1st of March and One World the following day. This is the 1st March footage, which means there should be a Telegraph Road somewhere.
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Post by: Kris-b on January 16, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
There is TOL on the other video! Did they play both? Or a different concert?
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Post by: rmarques821 on January 16, 2023, 08:18:02 PM
There is TOL on the other video! Did they play both? Or a different concert?
It says they played both on the 1st. Hopefully he'll publish the final part of the concert after ToL.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Kris-b on January 16, 2023, 08:18:50 PM
That would be great! Let‘s hope!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: the visitor on January 16, 2023, 08:20:12 PM
This is really very good.  Hopefully we get the rest of the concert , if indeed TR is included would.be truly amazing

So grateful to the uploader
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Post by: marki on January 16, 2023, 08:33:22 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rCaz8JHPyJY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0l0HhkraNh76ErBTmvcxCHN1YNNfNjMCMlL5tqvCSEkUwfkaYaRa0nl2o

One more segment uploaded. Seems to be Auckland (as Mark sings during SFA)
Maybe the best so far:
- Ride across the river
- Expresso love
- Industrial disease
- So far away - wow!
- R&J
- Private investigations
- Sultans

Very smiley Mark, like going back in time, this one
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: ds1984 on January 16, 2023, 09:56:02 PM
According to setlist.fm, So Far Away was played on the 1st of March and One World the following day. This is the 1st March footage, which means there should be a Telegraph Road somewhere.

Setlist.fm is not a model of accuracy.

The march 7 entry doesn't list TR whereas if this show if famous for something...
The march 2 entry  give an exact same setlist as august 1985 (both One World and WWE performed that night :think )
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: rmarques821 on January 16, 2023, 10:11:36 PM
According to setlist.fm, So Far Away was played on the 1st of March and One World the following day. This is the 1st March footage, which means there should be a Telegraph Road somewhere.

Setlist.fm is not a model of accuracy.

The march 7 entry doesn't list TR whereas if this show if famous for something...
The march 2 entry  give an exact same setlist as august 1985 (both One World and WWE performed that night :think )
It's the only source of information we have, however inaccurate it may be, with the exception of people who were actually there.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Kris-b on January 16, 2023, 10:25:06 PM
One member in the Worldwide FB group mentionned that he saw TR in Auckland.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: ds1984 on January 16, 2023, 10:27:32 PM
According to setlist.fm, So Far Away was played on the 1st of March and One World the following day. This is the 1st March footage, which means there should be a Telegraph Road somewhere.

Setlist.fm is not a model of accuracy.

The march 7 entry doesn't list TR whereas if this show if famous for something...
The march 2 entry  give an exact same setlist as august 1985 (both One World and WWE performed that night :think )
It's the only source of information we have, however inaccurate it may be, with the exception of people who were actually there.

I would not take the March 1 date for granted
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Pottel on January 17, 2023, 08:48:46 AM
One member in the Worldwide FB group mentionned that he saw TR in Auckland.
interesting. thnx for that info
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Vesper on January 17, 2023, 03:05:47 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rCaz8JHPyJY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0l0HhkraNh76ErBTmvcxCHN1YNNfNjMCMlL5tqvCSEkUwfkaYaRa0nl2o

One more segment uploaded. Seems to be Auckland (as Mark sings during SFA)
Maybe the best so far:
- Ride across the river
- Expresso love
- Industrial disease
- So far away - wow!
- R&J
- Private investigations
- Sultans

Very smiley Mark, like going back in time, this one

John on acoustic guitar in So Far Away, never noticed that before!
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Vesper on January 17, 2023, 03:21:34 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rCaz8JHPyJY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0l0HhkraNh76ErBTmvcxCHN1YNNfNjMCMlL5tqvCSEkUwfkaYaRa0nl2o

One more segment uploaded. Seems to be Auckland (as Mark sings during SFA)
Maybe the best so far:
- Ride across the river
- Expresso love
- Industrial disease
- So far away - wow!
- R&J
- Private investigations
- Sultans

Very smiley Mark, like going back in time, this one

So we've seen the first part of the concert!
And the part containing part of MfN, BiA and ToL
Hopefully the rest of the concert will follow.

The song order on setlist.fm is totally off, but if the songs are right we will hopefully see these soon:
Why Worry
Walk of Life
Two Young Lovers
***
Telegraph Road (!!!)
Solid Rock
Going Home
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on January 17, 2023, 04:59:20 PM
This show certainly has this sequence in its set:

ride across the river
express love
industrial disease
just far away
Romeo and Juliet
Private investigations
sultans of swing
why worry
walk of life
two young lovers
money for nothing
brothers in arms
tunnel of love
telegraph road
solid rock
going home


Judging by the fact that Industrial Disease was played
already in the third concert of 1986, (12.02.1986 Westlake Stadium Adelaide Australia), so, it must be in the setlist of practically almost all the shows of 86. I believe that in a few occasions they alternated Industrial Disease by One World and Your Latest Trick by Telegraph Road at over 50 concerts in 1986.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Pottel on January 23, 2023, 09:02:30 AM
the guy that taped this show (and three others, for which he was not allowed audio by the band) was the guy normally filming for the big screens wherever they had/needed them during the tour down under.
He has promised to look for any missing material (e.g. TR) and share as soon as there is clarity on the opinion of PCM (they are now in touch)
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: the visitor on January 24, 2023, 02:15:43 PM
the guy that taped this show (and three others, for which he was not allowed audio by the band) was the guy normally filming for the big screens wherever they had/needed them during the tour down under.
He has promised to look for any missing material (e.g. TR) and share as soon as there is clarity on the opinion of PCM (they are now in touch)

That is very interesting information, thanks a lot.  Let's hope we get some more material and that PCM look kindly on this - after all the audio on this is pretty ropey to be honest and this will be of interest to only die hard fans in terms of minor differences between material already out there in the scheme of things.

PCM would best focus efforts on the seemingly endless stream of 'radio broadcast' releases on CD that now pervade mainstream music stores - I see yet another 8CD set is due for release this week on Juno.  Either that or actually release some of these shows officially to satisfy demand.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Klaus74 on February 02, 2023, 12:37:15 PM
Hi Bruno Nunnes
Wow, absolutely amazing video-stuff from down under show in 1986. :thumbsup
But, listen very carefully to SFA Calypso-Version. Mark sings clearly Now i´m here again in Auckland-Town". So, your mentioned idea with the Adelaide-Gig in Westlake-Stadium could be false.
It was a cream of Mark, to change "mean old town" to the current city, where they had been played.
Try to compare the Sydney-recording, the Christchurch-recording, or, maybe, some other gigs in 1985, where SFA was played. Mark replaced that originally phrase from the SFA-lyrics into the concert cities names.
Maybe it is a useful hint for more information on the new discovered Australia video-footage. :think

According to my knowledge, and according to the tourdates in the BIA Live in 85/86 Tourbook by Dire Straits, they played three open-air shows in March 1986 in New Zealand. In Christchurch, in Auckland and in Wellington. I own an original promotion-poster from that NZ-Gigs in my collection. Jeroen has the complete Christchurch Gig as audio-source incl. Telegraph road. Sound is not the best, so i hope he can organize or produce a much better sounding-data in the near future. It will be worth it.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Klaus74 on February 02, 2023, 12:48:15 PM
This is the mentioned Live in 86 NZ-Promo-Poster by Dire Straits, dated on March 1986.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Brunno Nunes on February 04, 2023, 06:14:15 PM
Hi Bruno Nunnes
Wow, absolutely amazing video-stuff from down under show in 1986. :thumbsup
But, listen very carefully to SFA Calypso-Version. Mark sings clearly Now i´m here again in Auckland-Town". So, your mentioned idea with the Adelaide-Gig in Westlake-Stadium could be false.
It was a cream of Mark, to change "mean old town" to the current city, where they had been played.
Try to compare the Sydney-recording, the Christchurch-recording, or, maybe, some other gigs in 1985, where SFA was played. Mark replaced that originally phrase from the SFA-lyrics into the concert cities names.
Maybe it is a useful hint for more information on the new discovered Australia video-footage. :think

According to my knowledge, and according to the tourdates in the BIA Live in 85/86 Tourbook by Dire Straits, they played three open-air shows in March 1986 in New Zealand. In Christchurch, in Auckland and in Wellington. I own an original promotion-poster from that NZ-Gigs in my collection. Jeroen has the complete Christchurch Gig as audio-source incl. Telegraph road. Sound is not the best, so i hope he can organize or produce a much better sounding-data in the near future. It will be worth it.


I don't understand your post, Klaus74, there is no doubt this footage was taken in Auckland-Town, 01.03.86. I don't remember suggesting that this show was in Adelaide-Gig and if I did, it was a hypothesis at a time when we still didn't have the video for So Far Away available, where it is clear Mark singing the name of the city, there is two weeks since the part that says So Far Away was posted, then l, two weeks ago we know that it was on 01.03.1986 Mount Smart Stadium Auckland New Zealand.

You're a little late, man.
Title: Re: New record during the passage of the BIA tour in Australia in 1986.
Post by: Klaus74 on February 12, 2023, 06:04:14 PM
Hi Bruno.
Yes, now i have it relized for myself. Sorry for my confusion and irritation in this thread.  ??? I was so overwhelmed to see such "new" material from Australia-Leg of the BIA Tour 1986.  8)