A Mark In Time

Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: ds1984 on January 04, 2023, 09:15:58 PM

Title: New for 2024
Post by: ds1984 on January 04, 2023, 09:15:58 PM
Time to start a new topic?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 05, 2023, 09:59:18 AM
I think you just did!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on January 05, 2023, 10:19:54 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on January 05, 2023, 10:50:26 AM
Most of the things for 2022 will be in 2023.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on January 05, 2023, 10:58:36 AM
Most of the things for 2022 will be in 2023.

or 2024...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on January 05, 2023, 03:02:41 PM
Madrid 2001 DVD.  :lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: border_reiver on January 05, 2023, 03:08:30 PM
Madrid 2001 DVD.  :lol

Still hurts!  :'(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on January 05, 2023, 03:31:44 PM
Theorically...

- New MK record
- The Teenage Cancer Trust/Buddy Holly foundation charity project
- Hopefully Local Hero musical in London and a record release of it.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on January 05, 2023, 03:45:18 PM
And perhaps something from the Henrik Hansen project.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Kris-b on January 05, 2023, 04:40:54 PM
So much to wait or hope for!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on January 05, 2023, 04:52:05 PM
And perhaps something from the Henrik Hansen project.

That's something to be abandoned or in the next MK record if we are lucky  :(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Delco23 on January 14, 2023, 02:21:17 PM
Will be anxiously awaiting any news…
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Stanko on January 14, 2023, 09:02:49 PM
looking forward to outermost, the farthermost
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on January 19, 2023, 02:58:46 PM
And will there be an expanded version of Alchemy? Would love to hear Industrial Disease live!
Question on Guy's forum. The answer is yes.....
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Klaus74 on January 30, 2023, 12:47:52 PM
As a vinyl-nerd i dream of an excellent MFSL-Master-Disc-Version of Alchemy, maybe on 4 Discs on 45-rpm. :think 8)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 13, 2023, 05:42:58 PM
jbaent thank you for your questions about TCT and the new MK album:)

GF:
I'm afraid I'm only now mixing the TCT thing. Mark's album is still in the making  :smack

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Darling Pretty on February 13, 2023, 06:13:35 PM
So Nov 23 / Mar 24 :clap :clap :clap :thumbsdown
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 13, 2023, 06:27:52 PM
Mar 24

No no no ! It must be this year.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on February 13, 2023, 06:45:52 PM
2124?  :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on February 13, 2023, 07:05:20 PM
jbaent thank you for your questions about TCT and the new MK album:)

GF:
I'm afraid I'm only now mixing the TCT thing. Mark's album is still in the making  :smack
There is a reason why Guy is saying there is no tour planned at this moment............
He does not have slightest idea when Mark wants to finish the album 😂
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 13, 2023, 07:10:09 PM
Maybe Mark wants more acoustic songs on the album and doesn't need a whole band.  :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on February 13, 2023, 08:35:30 PM
There is no rush. No deadline. That's for sure.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Neville Sherman on February 13, 2023, 08:48:05 PM
Nah - given the time already spent on this project, I just think news will just 'appear' that the music is ready to be released. Will be this year of that I have every confidence! It might be as late as December 31st, but it will be this year!!!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Elin N on February 14, 2023, 08:44:12 AM
I think you are right Cannibals, who knows when Mark wants to finish the album. He can stay in the studio and "never" finish, no pressure on a tour. No dealines, just fiddling around as long as he wants. I do wish him all the best in the world!, but this is what makes me..annoyed, sad, frustrated. At the same time, it is better if this is just him being him, than a physical problem.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on February 14, 2023, 12:59:55 PM
Jep. Also on other projects he is working on there is a deadline. But with his album...? There was a story from Guy more than a year ago that also the LP thing  was delaying the album. But as of now i don't think they have a date for pressing the LP. New MK album in 2022..... oh sorry it is 2024......
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 15, 2023, 10:28:11 AM
I still think a release date on later 2023 could be possible if the work on the TCT project has a close deadline, but also there is a chance that they have to record the Local Hero musical for a release if it goes to London this year, so maybe is safe to say in that case, MK record would go to early 2024...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on February 16, 2023, 06:41:10 PM
I still think a release date on later 2023 could be possible if the work on the TCT project has a close deadline, but also there is a chance that they have to record the Local Hero musical for a release if it goes to London this year, so maybe is safe to say in that case, MK record would go to early 2024...

So this year will bring us new music from Mark in the TCT project and if we are lucky the new songs from the Local Hero Music? New MK record at the end of this year/early 2024? And ofcourse the new tv shows with Brian….
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 16, 2023, 07:05:44 PM
I believe that the new MK album will be this year

I wonder what Guy Fletcher will answer this question:

Will you be doing yet more full band session? Or is this the regular comping/overdubbing with you and MK?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 17, 2023, 10:08:13 AM
If the mixes for the TCT end soon, maybe they can put  their hands on the new record this spring and have it released by autumm, but as far as I understand Guy's answers, looks like they really don't have an schedule for it...

Regarding the Local Hero musical, if it's going to happen this year, they would have to announce it with plenty of time, and as far as I know Daniel Evans joins the Royal Shakespeare Company on late April, so unless it's really setup with them that Local Hero would take place, looks unlikely it happens this year unless it is already scheduled, theaters are very busy. Maybe they would announce it as soon as Mr Evans takes his place at the RSC? An anouncement in May for, let's say October would be time enough, but then they have to cast the actors, and record the songs for the MK record... Maybe too fast.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Vesper on February 17, 2023, 11:12:14 AM
Guy:

... ... ... Just about to start mixing but still some tweaks and overdubs going on.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 17, 2023, 11:23:29 AM
Guy:

... ... ... Just about to start mixing but still some tweaks and overdubs going on.

We are still doing overdubs but mixing is just around the corner. We just had two fun days of Backing vocals with Tamsin and Emma Topolski
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on February 17, 2023, 12:13:18 PM
And a diary is finally coming, thnx to some Dutchessy guy  ::)
I'm not sure if he is being sarcastic with me now, or that hey really thinks we deserve an update, and are SO patient.

GF: I am gearing up to do it now. Thanks for being SO patient. You are due an update…..
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 17, 2023, 02:28:01 PM
And a diary is finally coming, thnx to some Dutchessy guy  ::)
I'm not sure if he is being sarcastic with me now, or that hey really thinks we deserve an update, and are SO patient.

GF: I am gearing up to do it now. Thanks for being SO patient. You are due an update…..

Don't trust that Dutchessy guy

 ;D  :lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Elin N on February 17, 2023, 04:23:36 PM
My impression (emphasize *impresssion*, I don't read his mind) is that he cares. Sometimes I wonder about the words too, but I feel pretty sure that he is trying. "It's complicated". His words, once I asked about it.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on February 17, 2023, 04:54:35 PM
I also think that he wasn't sarcastic. Hopefully a new diary SOON then  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 17, 2023, 05:43:02 PM
I always thought the mixing started when everything was recorded  :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on February 17, 2023, 06:41:06 PM
I always thought the mixing started when everything was recorded  :think

That's true, but they are still doing overdubs and little tweaks as Guy said. So still recording... but mixing is just around the corner, what means... soon  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 17, 2023, 06:44:50 PM
I always thought the mixing started when everything was recorded  :think

That's true, but they are still doing overdubs and little tweaks as Guy said. So still recording... but mixing is just around the corner, what means... soon  ;)

 :thumbsup

I'm looking forward :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: SlowLearner on February 18, 2023, 04:33:36 PM
The new Mark Knopfler album, whenever it comes out, has all the reasons in the world to be a great record and it better be. It may sound a little bit unfair, but we have all the right in the world to feel that way.
This might be one of the longest gaps ever between albums, both for MK and Dire Straits. This has also got to be one of the longest recording sessions ever, that started getting more and more extended as time went by.
The great artists in history usually had (unfortunately) the greatest burst of creativy when at the brink of despair or tragedy.
This album has been rumored to happen for a while now, it's been years, and how quickly they went by. The wait and the anticipation for it is already long enough. The rumors about Mark not touring anymore creates an extra deal of hunger for new material.
Not only that, but since Mark's previous album and tour, we've had the pandemic (surrounded with all the things that went with it), the war, the Queen's passing and now recently the earthquakes in Turkey and Syria.
So much tragedy in the last few years, which is the perfect circumstance, an ideal setup if you will, or the playing field under which Mark usually thrives on the best. And as our hero, we really hope he delivers. Especially since we don't know if this'll be his last album ever. I mean, you never know.
Hope he also finishes and dusts off some of his many years old songs we never heard about, since they are usually very good whenever they get finally finished. I'm also very intrigued to see what are the kinds of subjects and topics Mark's interested in nowadays, what kinds of ones will he use this time to express himself. What will he compare his musical style or songwriting process to this time? If he was gonna sing songs about some of the recent tragedies in the world, he certainly wasn't gonna do it in obvious fashion, since he never did that. So what's he gonna compare it to, or should I say what kind of parallels will he make this time? Or maybe we might see a more personal MK this time, leaving a great mark on his entire career in reflective ways but also as a sort of a tribute, where he's gonna pay homage to his Straits days but also for his own entire career as a musician. Maybe some touching words about retirement or some end-of-the-life type of deal, near-death experiences or assumptions or whatever. Maybe also some unique musical styles, maybe a return to some styles he hasn't done in a while.
The world needs him to "make a statement". The stage couldn't be set any better for him. I count on him to deliver.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 18, 2023, 05:22:34 PM
"The world needs him to "make a statement".

 :thumbsup Nice :)

I think some of the songs will be inspired by the books Mark has read.
Maybe about those two men who crossed the Atlantic.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on February 19, 2023, 01:05:19 PM
Now without touring on the schedule, Mark can take all the time he needs for the next album.
The only thing I think about would be a contractual obligation toward the record company.
I don't know how much he is selling now but I guess that the pressure now is way lower than during the "success days".

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Knut on February 20, 2023, 12:24:55 AM
I hope it doesn't take TOO long. At some point, good enough is good enough. Like, anyone who ever wrote a book will know that it will never be perfect, and at some point you just have to say "let's print this sucker" if you have some confidence in that it's not garbage  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on February 20, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
I hope it doesn't take TOO long. At some point, good enough is good enough. Like, anyone who ever wrote a book will know that it will never be perfect, and at some point you just have to say "let's print this sucker" if you have some confidence in that it's not garbage  ;D

Yes - you can take too long doing overdubs to the point it sounds contrived. There's a lot to be said for spontaneity, in music especially. 
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 20, 2023, 06:55:04 PM
The thing is, we think he's taking too long recording his new album, but maybe he's taking too long but he's not working on his record but doing other things...

It's like when he recorded STP, it took four years to be released, but if you sum the days he really spent working on songs, mixing etc, they spent maybe a couple of months, three or four. He used to say the same about the Emmylou record, it took six years or more starting from the sessions that happened during the STP recordings, but in the end they really spent a month or two if you sum all the days along these years.

I'm sure it's not overdubs what is making it that long for this new record either, but that he's busy with other things. Right now Guy is busy mixing the TCT project and he's been busy with Atmos mixes, MK had been, is and would be busy recording the TV show with Brian Johnson, and maybe they are working on other things we don't know.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 20, 2023, 07:15:06 PM
The thing is, we think he's taking too long recording his new album, but maybe he's taking too long but he's not working on his record but doing other things...

It's like when he recorded STP, it took four years to be released, but if you sum the days he really spent working on songs, mixing etc, they spent maybe a couple of months, three or four. He used to say the same about the Emmylou record, it took six years or more starting from the sessions that happened during the STP recordings, but in the end they really spent a month or two if you sum all the days along these years.

I'm sure it's not overdubs what is making it that long for this new record either, but that he's busy with other things. Right now Guy is busy mixing the TCT project and he's been busy with Atmos mixes, MK had been, is and would be busy recording the TV show with Brian Johnson, and maybe they are working on other things we don't know.

I think so too. But most of all we're waiting for the MK album, so it's taking too long for us. But Mark doesn't think in our categories :)

There is no concert tour. The album can wait :(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on February 21, 2023, 02:43:34 PM
The thing is, we think he's taking too long recording his new album, but maybe he's taking too long but he's not working on his record but doing other things...

It's like when he recorded STP, it took four years to be released, but if you sum the days he really spent working on songs, mixing etc, they spent maybe a couple of months, three or four. He used to say the same about the Emmylou record, it took six years or more starting from the sessions that happened during the STP recordings, but in the end they really spent a month or two if you sum all the days along these years.

I'm sure it's not overdubs what is making it that long for this new record either, but that he's busy with other things. Right now Guy is busy mixing the TCT project and he's been busy with Atmos mixes, MK had been, is and would be busy recording the TV show with Brian Johnson, and maybe they are working on other things we don't know.

It's annoying that he starts recording an album then when something else crops up the album gets put on the back burner every time as if it's hardly important.  A new album should be top priority for him with other projects just distractions, especially once he has already started recording the album.

If he'd rather enjoy himself making TV shows with his old pals than finishing off a main project for his patiently waiting fans then it doesn't say much.  I'm beginning to lose interest; if it's anything like the last one then I'll probably not listen to it again save for a couple of tunes anyway.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2023, 02:50:46 PM
He is not in a hurry to release his new record so he doesn't mind to left it rest for a while and do other things. I insist that he did that during four years with STP.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2023, 03:07:26 PM
There is a book in Spanish that I found in lulu and also in Amazon regarding those 4 years when the record STP was recorded, I will look it later and do a cronology for the STP thread.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 21, 2023, 03:18:53 PM
Prior to STP, he recorded two film albums.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2023, 03:26:16 PM
Prior to STP, he recorded two film albums.

Three!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 21, 2023, 03:32:17 PM
Prior to STP, he recorded two film albums.

Three!

It's true I didn't think of A Shot at Glory because it's 2000/2001.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2023, 03:57:05 PM
Here you have that STP chronology:

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8319.0
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 21, 2023, 04:03:43 PM
"During this year, MK refused to write the score for a David Puttnam film titled "World of Moss", that would change its name to "My life so far"

I didn't know about that.

Thanks jbaent :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 21, 2023, 04:13:41 PM
June: Chet Atkings Musicians Days, where he plays "The next time I'm in town" with Chet Atkins.

and before:

Mark i John Anderson:  When It comes to you
Setting me up
I still miss someone
Two skinny kids
Romeo and Juliet
Sultans of swing
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2023, 04:19:08 PM
June: Chet Atkings Musicians Days, where he plays "The next time I'm in town" with Chet Atkins.

and before:

Mark i John Anderson:  When It comes to you
Setting me up
I still miss someone
Two skinny kids
Romeo and Juliet
Sultans of swing

There are two different Chet Atkins Musicians Days, in different years. In one MK just play a song, in the other he plays with the house band all the gig and play some of his songs.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on February 21, 2023, 04:25:04 PM
June: Chet Atkings Musicians Days, where he plays "The next time I'm in town" with Chet Atkins.

and before:

Mark i John Anderson:  When It comes to you
Setting me up
I still miss someone
Two skinny kids
Romeo and Juliet
Sultans of swing

There are two different Chet Atkins Musicians Days, in different years. In one MK just play a song, in the other he plays with the house band all the gig and play some of his songs.

Yes, what I was thinking was June 24, 1998
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on February 25, 2023, 01:08:50 AM
And a diary is finally coming, thnx to some Dutchessy guy  ::)
I'm not sure if he is being sarcastic with me now, or that hey really thinks we deserve an update, and are SO patient.

GF: I am gearing up to do it now. Thanks for being SO patient. You are due an update…..

Still no diary :/
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on February 25, 2023, 03:45:48 PM
And a diary is finally coming, thnx to some Dutchessy guy  ::)
I'm not sure if he is being sarcastic with me now, or that hey really thinks we deserve an update, and are SO patient.

GF: I am gearing up to do it now. Thanks for being SO patient. You are due an update…..

Still no diary :/
I think the session with DG is more important tot Guy then the diary. Probably next week......
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on February 26, 2023, 05:02:43 PM
Finally the 3rd diary entry is there!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: marki on February 26, 2023, 05:28:33 PM
Now you have the diary as well (part 3)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on March 06, 2023, 05:59:38 PM
Mixing has started (Guy confirmed)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on March 06, 2023, 06:23:37 PM
Mixing has started (Guy confirmed)
Yes, i asked it ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: straitsway75 on March 06, 2023, 07:11:40 PM
Do you think the release for September October is plausible?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 06, 2023, 07:52:14 PM
Mixing has started (Guy confirmed)

 :thumbsup

I'm really glad :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 06, 2023, 08:02:26 PM
Do you think the release for September October is plausible?

I hope the vinyl record doesn't delay the release.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rolleyway Man on March 07, 2023, 12:31:39 AM
Do you think the release for September October is plausible?

I hope the vinyl record doesn't delay the release.

I’m not totally sure how the prioritisation of vinyl production works. I don’t know whether it is on a purely first come first serve basis, or whether major labels and their artists get first dibs on production slots (i.e. they are able to jump the queue, as it were). For instance, Guy decided not to release a vinyl edition of Anomaly, not only because of costs but also because of the amount of time he’d have to wait before copies could be manufactured. It may be that higher profile artists like Mark don’t have to worry so much about these production lead-in times.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2023, 11:43:47 AM
Do you think the release for September October is plausible?

I hope the vinyl record doesn't delay the release.

I’m not totally sure how the prioritisation of vinyl production works. I don’t know whether it is on a purely first come first serve basis, or whether major labels and their artists get first dibs on production slots (i.e. they are able to jump the queue, as it were). For instance, Guy decided not to release a vinyl edition of Anomaly, not only because of costs but also because of the amount of time he’d have to wait before copies could be manufactured. It may be that higher profile artists like Mark don’t have to worry so much about these production lead-in times.

If they have everything scheduled, they might have a slot reserved for production even they don't have the record ready, for example, they might have a slot on September to be produced and the record should be ready one month before, I guess, is just an example as I don't know how it works exactly...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 07, 2023, 01:34:18 PM
I don't know why it is an issue if the Vinyl is not ready at the same time as the CD and digital, as long as those formats are available, a delay in Vinyl for me is ok.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 07, 2023, 01:37:51 PM
I don't know why it is an issue if the Vinyl is not ready at the same time as the CD and digital, as long as those formats are available, a delay in Vinyl for me is ok.

It is for you, it might be for me, but record companies like to offer all formats at the same time.

I know sometimes they release them at different dates but, thinking MK doesn't need to release anything as fast as possible, they are going to wait until all formats can be released at the same time for sure.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on March 07, 2023, 01:43:24 PM
I don't know why it is an issue if the Vinyl is not ready at the same time as the CD and digital, as long as those formats are available, a delay in Vinyl for me is ok.

It is for you, it might be for me, but record companies like to offer all formats at the same time.

I know sometimes they release them at different dates but, thinking MK doesn't need to release anything as fast as possible, they are going to wait until all formats can be released at the same time for sure.

I'm afraid so yes
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 13, 2023, 06:28:16 PM
I believe the new album will be released this year. I wonder when we'll hear the first single. The first song.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: GIUMK on March 13, 2023, 07:35:58 PM
Yes, I also think the new album will come out this year.  More than the first single I think we will listen to a lead single, the other singles will be support.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 13, 2023, 07:46:06 PM
Lead single?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on March 13, 2023, 07:52:32 PM
hopefully the album comes out in september, the single would come out about two months earlier so probably in july.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 13, 2023, 07:53:09 PM
The release has to be this year or I'm going insane.  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 13, 2023, 07:56:40 PM
hopefully the album comes out in september, the single would come out about two months earlier so probably in july.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 13, 2023, 07:57:44 PM
The release has to be this year or I'm going insane.  ;)

Exactly ! I'm tired of waiting.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: GIUMK on March 13, 2023, 08:03:17 PM
Lead single?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: GIUMK on March 13, 2023, 08:05:05 PM
Yeah, like Beryl.  I believe it, or at least I hope so.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 13, 2023, 08:06:36 PM
Yeah, like Beryl.  I believe it, or at least I hope so.

Beryl was the first single.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: GIUMK on March 13, 2023, 08:30:34 PM
Yes, that's true but also the lead single.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 13, 2023, 08:37:44 PM
Yes, that's true but also the lead single.

And the only one :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: GIUMK on March 13, 2023, 09:26:36 PM
 :thumbsup :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on March 13, 2023, 09:58:32 PM
Like Beryl, it won't make it on the tour setlist  :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: knopflertom on March 13, 2023, 10:43:13 PM
Like Beryl, it won't make it on the tour setlist  :think
Which tour? He won‘t tour as G confirmed… :'(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 14, 2023, 12:23:25 PM
hopefully the album comes out in september, the single would come out about two months earlier so probably in july.

They are mixing right now, I think September might be too soon.

I suspect that the record might be released early next year, and if we are lucky, around November or December this year.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 14, 2023, 03:46:45 PM
hopefully the album comes out in september, the single would come out about two months earlier so probably in july.

They are mixing right now, I think September might be too soon.

I suspect that the record might be released early next year, and if we are lucky, around November or December this year.

Yes, I believe November is really possible.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 14, 2023, 04:43:25 PM
With 9 months of the year remaining, I would be amazed if it isn't released in 2023
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 14, 2023, 05:12:57 PM
With 9 months of the year remaining, I would be amazed if it isn't released in 2023

They might had something on schedule that we don't know yet for all those months, or during some of them.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 15, 2023, 12:45:51 PM
Yes, they probably do, but surely there is plenty of time for a release this year, even more so because there doesn't appear to be a tour to organise either.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 15, 2023, 01:14:32 PM
Yes, they probably do, but surely there is plenty of time for a release this year, even more so because there doesn't appear to be a tour to organise either.

And that's the reason why is more likely they could delay it as much as they want or need, as they don't have to play a tour to promote it, so there is nothing in the calendar pushing them.

There is the Local Hero musical yet to be staged in London, and that might be something we already know that can delay them, but until Daniel Evans take his position at the Royal Shakespeare Company I think in late April, they are not doing anything about it. I truly hope that they could have the mixes of the new record finished so whatever they have to do is done, and won't interfere.

Same with that Dire Straits thing Guy said he's going to mix and can't say a thing. If it's something big like unreleased material, or special boxes or whatever, depending on how much work it would need, they might want to release it on Christmas, and that would coincide with the MK record, which is not a good idea commercially talking... And if that happens, I bet the record company would rather release the DS stuff first.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 15, 2023, 07:09:02 PM
Yes, they probably do, but surely there is plenty of time for a release this year, even more so because there doesn't appear to be a tour to organise either.

And that's the reason why is more likely they could delay it as much as they want or need, as they don't have to play a tour to promote it, so there is nothing in the calendar pushing them.

There is the Local Hero musical yet to be staged in London, and that might be something we already know that can delay them, but until Daniel Evans take his position at the Royal Shakespeare Company I think in late April, they are not doing anything about it. I truly hope that they could have the mixes of the new record finished so whatever they have to do is done, and won't interfere.

Same with that Dire Straits thing Guy said he's going to mix and can't say a thing. If it's something big like unreleased material, or special boxes or whatever, depending on how much work it would need, they might want to release it on Christmas, and that would coincide with the MK record, which is not a good idea commercially talking... And if that happens, I bet the record company would rather release the DS stuff first.

That's true.

We still need to remember about Teenage Cancer Trust.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on March 16, 2023, 10:24:28 AM
When can we expect some news about the releasedate for the new MK album. Do they give the date months before releasing or just a couple of weeks??
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on March 16, 2023, 11:20:11 AM
When can we expect some news about the releasedate for the new MK album. Do they give the date months before releasing or just a couple of weeks??

Usually months before, when someone finds the album somewhere online..
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 16, 2023, 11:26:00 AM
Last update by MKNEWS says the record will be out later 2023, obviously that can change, I think it would, but as official, that's what it is:

18th November 2022:

https://www.mark-knopfler-news.co.uk/23albumupdate/

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 16, 2023, 04:10:09 PM
Hardly anyone releases a new album in December. Maybe November 17 or 24. These are good dates  :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: JF on March 17, 2023, 11:37:15 AM
Hardly anyone releases a new album in December. Maybe November 17 or 24. These are good dates  :)

many famous albums were released in december :
Axis : bold as love, Made in Japan, Their satanic majetsies request, Sell out, Hotel California, Fresh Cream, A day at the races, Rubber soul, My generation, Relayer...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2023, 11:45:53 AM
With respect, all of those are ancient :)

Nowadays they release earlier as people can buy as Christmas gifts, although as hardly anyone buys physical products that maybe doesn't matter so much nowadays.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 17, 2023, 01:28:22 PM
With respect, all of those are ancient :)

Nowadays they release earlier as people can buy as Christmas gifts, although as hardly anyone buys physical products that maybe doesn't matter so much nowadays.

Exactly.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 17, 2023, 02:09:02 PM
I think I've seen many records by very important artists being released in December, can't name none of them right now as I don't like or care most of them and I didn't search in order to write this, just trusted my memory.

But I'm sure some of you if are curios enough can search in the right sites and see releases planned for December last years, or even for this.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2023, 02:41:47 PM
Not really a huge time for releases by major artists last year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2022_albums_(July%E2%80%93December)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: JF on March 17, 2023, 03:29:00 PM
it depends when you are buying your christmas gifts  ;D
many people go to stores just few days before christmas, so albums released let say in mid december can make good christmas gifts  :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 17, 2023, 03:51:32 PM
Not really a huge time for releases by major artists last year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2022_albums_(July%E2%80%93December)

David Crosby, Sam Fender, Nina Hagen, Weezer, Sugarbabes... these are the ones that rings a bell, but, plenty of people that probably the younger people would recognize.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2023, 06:15:36 PM
David Crosby and Sam Fender are live albums so not really a big deal, Weezer is an EP. It doesn't seem to be a time when people want to release major studio albums.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on March 17, 2023, 06:28:41 PM
With respect, all of those are ancient :)

Nowadays they release earlier as people can buy as Christmas gifts, although as hardly anyone buys physical products that maybe doesn't matter so much nowadays.

From a general point of view you are right but some exceptions remains.
Some old artists in France are still selling  way more physical records than digital.
And I expect that being the case in other European countries.

For the US I would not say this a very different market.

The point in Mark Knopfler case is does he still sells a lot?
He has remained an attractive live act but I can imagine that figure sales for his latest solo efforts were declining.
I did not see these topping the charts the way the first two did.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 17, 2023, 06:52:43 PM
I would say while his sales have declined, I imagine a greater proportion of his sales would be physical compared to newer artists, as his fanbase is older.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 17, 2023, 07:07:51 PM
Maybe what I remember was December in earlier years, not last one, however, it really does not matter. I always thought that those strategies are a little dumb. When physical sales were a thing, releases in December sounds like clever to me as you can buy it as a Christmas present.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 17, 2023, 11:46:53 PM
Thing is, all this will be determined by the label. They will all employ monkeys to sit at a computer, 'run the data', and come up with the 'perfect' strategy to sell the most units.

This idea that any artist decides on release strategy is a myth.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: JF on March 18, 2023, 10:56:56 AM
This idea that any artist decides on release strategy is a myth.

except for "independant" artists who do all by themselves.
the french duo "The Inspector Cluzo" comes to mind/ They do ALL : they ahve their own label, the manage the selling, distribution, and even the touring organisation

and I think that major artists who product themselves have their word to say, even if they don't decide all.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 18, 2023, 10:37:34 PM
This idea that any artist decides on release strategy is a myth.

except for "independant" artists who do all by themselves.
the french duo "The Inspector Cluzo" comes to mind/ They do ALL : they ahve their own label, the manage the selling, distribution, and even the touring organisation

and I think that major artists who product themselves have their word to say, even if they don't decide all.

I wasnt referring to independent artists.

The clue is in the title of that one J!  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: JF on March 19, 2023, 10:46:53 AM
 :)
I think it works with very famous artists too.
I can't imagine that The Rolling stones won't choose themselves the release date (or at least the month) for their next album.
I can't believe that the major company (I think Univresal in their case) won't ask to Jagger his point of view about when to release the album.

I am aware though that MK is not exactly in the same league as the Stones  ;D :lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 19, 2023, 01:07:45 PM
I’d guess he sells about the same. Nobody has cared about Stones albums for about 50 years.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 19, 2023, 10:33:32 PM
:)
I think it works with very famous artists too.
I can't imagine that The Rolling stones won't choose themselves the release date (or at least the month) for their next album.
I can't believe that the major company (I think Univresal in their case) won't ask to Jagger his point of view about when to release the album.

I am aware though that MK is not exactly in the same league as the Stones  ;D :lol

And you don't think the label will want to maximize the release strategy?

Of course the artist will have a say but ultimately the label will have final call. if you want an example look no further than golden heart where Mark wanted ANISLA as the lead single. instead we got DP.

I'm not saying artists don't get a say in these decisions, and its probably the case that as physical sales have declined the weight of their opinion probably means more. But ultimately its the record label paying the overheads, the record label risking its cash, hence the simple business need to maximize its return. Any business that didn't behave like this wouldn't last long.

its dog eat dog, rat eat rat  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 19, 2023, 10:53:25 PM
A Night In Summer Long Ago first single? I did not know.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Knut on March 19, 2023, 11:09:07 PM
I’d guess he sells about the same. Nobody has cared about Stones albums for about 50 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_discography

Not sure how you get that idea, based on the wikipedia articles, it seems like if there's an artist people don't give a rat's ass about of those two, it's (unfortunately) MK.

I don't get this whole "let's drag everyone else down because MaRk KnOpFlEr Is ThE mAsTeR"-bullcrap. Just because we're in a fan forum doesn't mean that any other artist is objectively worse...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: 2manyguitars on March 20, 2023, 01:10:40 AM
A Night In Summer Long Ago first single? I did not know.

I know! I remember Mark talking somewhere about not being used to record company interference....
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on March 20, 2023, 01:50:34 AM
A Night In Summer Long Ago first single? I did not know.

I know! I remember Mark talking somewhere about not being used to record company interference....

A Night In Summer Long Ago as the lead single ... That's just ridiculous. Then why bother recording songs like Darling Pretty, Vic and Ray, Cannibals, etc. at all? Just go ahead and make a full-blown folk album. It shows the artist is not always right.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 20, 2023, 12:13:36 PM
I’d guess he sells about the same. Nobody has cared about Stones albums for about 50 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_discography

Not sure how you get that idea, based on the wikipedia articles, it seems like if there's an artist people don't give a rat's ass about of those two, it's (unfortunately) MK.

I don't get this whole "let's drag everyone else down because MaRk KnOpFlEr Is ThE mAsTeR"-bullcrap. Just because we're in a fan forum doesn't mean that any other artist is objectively worse...

No need to take offence, it's just my perception that for a long time now the Stones have been seen primarily as a legacy "greatest hits" live act and nobody really rates their studio work. Every new album seems to be marketed as "their best since Black and Blue", acknowledging that the releases since then havn't been much cop.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Knut on March 20, 2023, 03:35:20 PM
I’d guess he sells about the same. Nobody has cared about Stones albums for about 50 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_discography

Not sure how you get that idea, based on the wikipedia articles, it seems like if there's an artist people don't give a rat's ass about of those two, it's (unfortunately) MK.

I don't get this whole "let's drag everyone else down because MaRk KnOpFlEr Is ThE mAsTeR"-bullcrap. Just because we're in a fan forum doesn't mean that any other artist is objectively worse...

No need to take offence, it's just my perception that for a long time now the Stones have been seen primarily as a legacy "greatest hits" live act and nobody really rates their studio work. Every new album seems to be marketed as "their best since Black and Blue", acknowledging that the releases since then havn't been much cop.

I just find it sad that there's so much devaluation of others work in here, too. Like, even ex-band members' records and tunes, though not in this thread. It's music, and in the end it's all about "I like this tune, but not that one".

In your case, you can just look up and compare sales figures and you get the verdict.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 20, 2023, 04:41:06 PM
Well we can agree to disagree my friend, I like free speech and find people's opinions interesting. I wouldn't expect everybody to like everything. There's plenty of criticism of MK's records here and in my mind that should also be encouraged.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on March 20, 2023, 06:47:08 PM
A Night In Summer Long Ago first single? I did not know.

I know! I remember Mark talking somewhere about not being used to record company interference....

I find this statement a bit innocent from Mark Knopfler.
Or maybe he just though he had more powerl than he actually had.

Dire Straits was the brand, not Mark Knopfler.

BTW did Ed Bicknell publicly expressed his view about the album?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 20, 2023, 08:29:41 PM
A Night In Summer Long Ago first single? I did not know.

I know! I remember Mark talking somewhere about not being used to record company interference....

I find this statement a bit innocent from Mark Knopfler.
Or maybe he just though he had more powerl than he actually had.

Dire Straits was the brand, not Mark Knopfler.

BTW did Ed Bicknell publicly expressed his view about the album?

I heard him in an interview telling that he thought MK just wanted to do a solo record and then going back to DS, and then discovered that he really wanted to left the band behind. Sounded like he didn't took seriously MK as a solo artist.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on March 30, 2023, 05:13:48 PM
GF:

We are still mixing Mark’s album


But GF's answer of "of course" adds to the hope that the new album will be released this year. :)

Thanks jbaent  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 30, 2023, 07:14:43 PM
GF:

We are still mixing Mark’s album


But GF's answer of "of course" adds to the hope that the new album will be released this year. :)

Thanks jbaent  ;)

My pleasure  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: MagicElliott on April 14, 2023, 12:59:16 PM
Came across this while searching for Jim Cox….

Look at the latest credit. Album title perhaps?

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/jim-cox-mn0000847277/credits
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on April 14, 2023, 01:19:29 PM
If I remember correctly, someone made a mix for Valentine's Day. There is also an album cover :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: MagicElliott on April 14, 2023, 01:39:15 PM
Yes, I tried to do some research and this came up.
Apologies for this.

Feel free to delete my post.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 14, 2023, 02:03:54 PM
Nah, leave it in. Streaming only release.

(https://resources.tidal.com/images/b7a3a290/fe3a/480a/88f7/dfe3c0edc6d9/640x640.jpg)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 04, 2023, 07:18:29 PM
Dmac:

"Any progress on the new album? Do you think we will have it this year...?


I am very curious to see what Guy Fletcher's response will be.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 05, 2023, 11:35:20 AM
GF:

As far as Mark’s album is going, we are halfway through mixing but Mark is away filming at the moment, with a certain Brian Johnson.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Kris-b on May 05, 2023, 01:05:43 PM
So more patience required!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on May 05, 2023, 01:14:48 PM
Everything that crops up seems to come first and take priority over the new album which appears to have been simmering away on the back burner for about a decade now.  He barely seems interested in it for some reason!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on May 05, 2023, 01:57:54 PM
He does not have to go on tour to support the album. He can release with whenever he feels like it. You can bet it will be next year. It will take some time to do this tv thing with Brian Johnson. in the summer they also have some time off like always. Mixing is a long proces....
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on May 05, 2023, 02:54:38 PM
There is no pressure to release it i think. Normal a tour is planned after release... At some point they have a deadline but clearly no stress on this new album.....
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on May 05, 2023, 03:20:42 PM
Everything that crops up seems to come first and take priority over the new album which appears to have been simmering away on the back burner for about a decade now.  He barely seems interested in it for some reason!
Yeah, they work slower than a tortoise on opioids.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 05, 2023, 03:37:10 PM
Guy Fletcher is working on Atmos versions at the same time.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on May 05, 2023, 05:11:18 PM
I think we're in for a double album of high-octane, ass-kicking Rock'n'Roll.


Said no-one.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on May 05, 2023, 10:32:01 PM
GF:

As far as Mark’s album is going, we are halfway through mixing.


I'm slowly losing hope for a release this year.  :'(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on May 05, 2023, 11:29:23 PM
GF:

As far as Mark’s album is going, we are halfway through mixing.


I'm slowly losing hope for a release this year.  :'(

Me too.  Who knows, if something else crops up it will be delayed yet again!  ::)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 06, 2023, 02:45:09 AM
Me too a bit. But there is still a chance for this year. We have half a year :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on May 06, 2023, 05:09:37 AM
At least 6 more weeks of mixing
2-3 weeks with Brian Johnson
Summer Holidays 4 weeks
MK procrastination period 6 months
The question is will the album be ready for release next year :disbelief
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on May 06, 2023, 09:56:34 AM
And if Mr Daniel Evans had scheduled for the Royal Shakespeare Company, which he joins in June, the Local hero musical for this autumn (that seems unlikely for me right now) MK would have to record and mix the cast sing in order to have the cd and lp of it ready to coincide with the representations...

And that would delay again the new MK record that right now looks like no priority at all.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Darling Pretty on May 06, 2023, 11:34:29 AM
That's what I thought weeks ago.
Release maybe March 2024
It could also be his last album, who knows? It must be perfect then... :think
Let's hope not
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on May 06, 2023, 05:23:21 PM
This album is becoming old. Since Mark never looks back, he'll probably just scrap the whole thing and start a new one.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on May 06, 2023, 06:22:21 PM
This album is becoming old. Since Mark never looks back, he'll probably just scrap the whole thing and start a new one.

Just my thoughs...

When the record could ve ready to be released, the songs would be old for MK and he probably would have new ones for another record that would be released in ten years time and being old too!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: holaknopfler on May 11, 2023, 11:26:19 PM
That's what I thought weeks ago.
Release maybe March 2024
It could also be his last album, who knows? It must be perfect then... :think
Let's hope not

Could be earlier if they finish mixing, these records are so well recorded in BG that they don't need much work I suppose when the mixing is done. Only have to press it, promote and distribute it. Should be do-able this year.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Klaus74 on May 16, 2023, 01:23:22 PM
Let´s hope for this year with the release of the new MK album.
If the technical work is done, MK needs some good cover-design, and artwork for the album, or for possible single-releases, too. In which form it will be released ? Standard-CD-Album, Deluxe-CD-Album, 2-CD-Set, CD and DVD-Set, 2-Vinyl-LP-Set, or luxury BOX-Edition with some nice additional stuff, like Posters, Lyric-sheets, guitar-pictures, Bonus-Songs or things like that.  :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Stanko on May 20, 2023, 12:18:28 PM
on a fair side, there is a huge benefit of looking at from a distance for a proper song doesn't grow old.
I personally welcome that approach patiently.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: milicz on May 26, 2023, 12:23:56 AM
Quote
Same with that Dire Straits thing Guy said he's going to mix and can't say a thing. If it's something big like unreleased material, or special boxes or whatever, depending on how much work it would need, they might want to release it on Christmas, and that would coincide with the MK record, which is not a good idea commercially talking... And if that happens, I bet the record company would rather release the DS stuff first.

Where is this magical piece of info from?  You have just set my heart a flutter.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on May 26, 2023, 02:43:58 AM
It's Blu Ray discs of the Straits albums.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 26, 2023, 09:54:24 AM
It's Blu Ray discs of the Straits albums.

Forgive my ignorance, what would the point of this be? Atmos/5.1?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on May 26, 2023, 12:37:20 PM
It's Blu Ray discs of the Straits albums.

Forgive my ignorance, what would the point of this be? Atmos/5.1?

Yes Atmos is the reason.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 29, 2023, 04:32:14 PM
GF:

Nearly finished. Can’t give any release info I’m afraid.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on May 29, 2023, 05:01:27 PM
GF:

Nearly finished. Can’t give any release info I’m afraid.
Finally it's nearly finished. Only 6 or 7 more months to go, then!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 29, 2023, 05:03:49 PM
It's really hard to predict if there's a chance this year.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: GIUMK on May 29, 2023, 07:40:05 PM
Incredible!  What are they waiting for?  Maybe Mark dies?  Not doing tours he could release an album every one / two years and instead ... unbelievable!! >:(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on May 29, 2023, 10:53:43 PM
GF:

Nearly finished. Can’t give any release info I’m afraid.
Finally it's nearly finished. Only 6 or 7 more months to go, then!
What happens after mixing?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 29, 2023, 11:03:45 PM
GF:

Nearly finished. Can’t give any release info I’m afraid.
Finally it's nearly finished. Only 6 or 7 more months to go, then!
What happens after mixing?

Mastering? Cover, graphics.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on May 30, 2023, 01:40:38 AM
GF:

Nearly finished. Can’t give any release info I’m afraid.
Finally it's nearly finished. Only 6 or 7 more months to go, then!
What happens after mixing?
I have no idea. I was just making a joke out of how long it's taking to make the album. Even making a cup of tea must take 2 weeks at British Grove.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on May 30, 2023, 10:34:59 AM
GF:

Nearly finished. Can’t give any release info I’m afraid.
Finally it's nearly finished. Only 6 or 7 more months to go, then!
What happens after mixing?
I have no idea. I was just making a joke out of how long it's taking to make the album. Even making a cup of tea must take 2 weeks at British Grove.

‘Every day is a good day at British Grove.’
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Stanko on May 30, 2023, 12:35:00 PM
Where's the point in hurrying when waiting feels so great?
A train left a while ago now I do everything slow.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on May 30, 2023, 12:38:17 PM
Well, isn't Mark away filming for his show with Brian Johnson? then he will, I assume be busy with promotion for the album, giving interviews etc, this is an unusual time, as it will be the first time with either Dire Straits of solo that he won't have a tour to worry about, that we know of :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on May 30, 2023, 03:19:38 PM
I think the solo album is the lower priority in Mark current project schedule.

All others projects are involving a due date and \or other people involved so they have more constraint.

Delaying the solo album release is the easiest and obvious thing to do when time conflict are occuring.

In some extend I tend to believe that we are over informed about the album process. I remember my great surprise when I first heard Darling Pretty aired  in 1996 on Radio France.

What's that ?
Holly s... that's sounds like some Dire Straits!!!


At the end of the song the speaker simply announced it being the single from the forthcoming solo album.
I was so happy to be surprised that way.

The more we know the more we want to know about.
Just rely on it will be ready when it will be ready moto is sometime the best attitude to adopt.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on May 30, 2023, 06:38:49 PM
I think the solo album is the lower priority in Mark current project schedule.

All others projects are involving a due date and \or other people involved so they have more constraint.

Delaying the solo album release is the easiest and obvious thing to do when time conflict are occuring.

In some extend I tend to believe that we are over informed about the album process. I remember my great surprise when I first heard Darling Pretty aired  in 1996 on Radio France.

What's that ?
Holly s... that's sounds like some Dire Straits!!!


At the end of the song the speaker simply announced it being the single from the fortchcoming solo album.
I was so happy to be surprised that way.

The more we know the more we want to know about.
Just rely on it will be ready when it will be ready moto is sometime the best attitude to adopt.

It's all true. When Golden Heart album came out, I didn't use the internet. But human nature is impatient :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on June 12, 2023, 12:52:39 PM
GF:

Album is just about done and will be in Bob’s (Ludwiga) capable hands very shortly. The TCT project is actually still in production.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 13, 2023, 09:46:23 AM
It is still looking good for an autumn release then.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 13, 2023, 10:17:16 AM
It is still looking good for an autumn release then.

Hmm, is there still a worldwide delay on vinyl production?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 13, 2023, 11:08:17 AM
Yes, but Autumn ends on 30th November, so, I really hope that is long enough. They might aswell start the next album now too!!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on June 13, 2023, 11:59:55 AM
It is still looking good for an autumn release then.

Hmm, is there still a worldwide delay on vinyl production?
They are now 3 years working on the new album so a delay again because of vinyl production  :think :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: JF on June 13, 2023, 12:31:56 PM
Autumn ends on 30th November

even on 21th december ! winter begins on 22th
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on June 13, 2023, 01:31:20 PM
I don't believe in the release of the album in December. November 24 at the latest.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on June 13, 2023, 04:42:09 PM
I don't believe in the release of the album in December. November 24 at the latest.
They are not in a hurry, thats for sure, so early next year would not suprise me at all.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on June 13, 2023, 11:25:19 PM
It is still looking good for an autumn release then.

Hmm, is there still a worldwide delay on vinyl production?

Yes the delay is typically 5-6 months at present.
If they haven't pre booked a slot there is no way the album will be released this year.
A new album and tour for 24 8)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 14, 2023, 08:15:37 AM
I still don't get the Vinyl thing, just release the album on all the other formats, and then release the Vinyl at a later date, they could even have a pre-order thing.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 14, 2023, 09:55:31 AM
I still don't get the Vinyl thing, just release the album on all the other formats, and then release the Vinyl at a later date, they could even have a pre-order thing.

Some artists do do that, but I think selling vinyl is one of the very few ways they can make money these days, especially with the box sets with all the extra tat for a hundred quid.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on June 14, 2023, 03:48:54 PM
Looking at Guy's forum on my question about the artwork for the new album and his reply makes me wonder..... i just think the new album is not coming anytime soon....
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on June 14, 2023, 04:01:54 PM
Looking at Guy's forum on my question about the artwork for the new album and his reply makes me wonder..... i just think the new album is not coming anytime soon....

But why? His answer actually makes sense. Album artwork is created by designers, and not MK or GF. They can provide the idea, but certainly not do the job!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on June 14, 2023, 04:52:34 PM
I'm worried as I didn't read yet this is the best record they ever did.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on June 14, 2023, 05:44:54 PM
Looking at Guy's forum on my question about the artwork for the new album and his reply makes me wonder..... i just think the new album is not coming anytime soon....

But why? His answer actually makes sense. Album artwork is created by designers, and not MK or GF. They can provide the idea, but certainly not do the job!

Exactly!

I think the cover is ready and we will see it with the album release date :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: GIUMK on June 14, 2023, 05:48:35 PM
I'm worried as I didn't read yet this is the best record they ever did.
I hope he doesn't say it's the best album.  I think instead it's the best for the fans because, not touring anymore, he has to release a commercial album.  Mark has never liked very commercial albums, so, for him it can't be the best album.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on June 14, 2023, 06:19:48 PM
Looking at Guy's forum on my question about the artwork for the new album and his reply makes me wonder..... i just think the new album is not coming anytime soon....

But why? His answer actually makes sense. Album artwork is created by designers, and not MK or GF. They can provide the idea, but certainly not do the job!
Good point but it's just a feeling. This is all taking to long. Perhaps the question should have been if the artwork was already done. Although i must say i don't know how long this takes. Weeks, months?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on June 14, 2023, 08:54:41 PM
The artwork is part of the process that never ever had anything to do with Guy so his answer doesn't mean anything really.

That's a part of the process that runs most of the time simultaneously and it's run by another team, and in which MK has a said, approve or refuse. With DTRW MK refused the work presented by Salvador Lavado Design and suggested to use the picture of the road that was used in the end.

Probably while they are ending the mix in order to be sent to mastering, someone else is working or already has a project for the design of the cover and maybe is already approved or rejected, but this is something we usually don't know as our source is usually Guy, and he's not involved in that.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on June 14, 2023, 09:05:42 PM
I remember a rejected idea :)

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on June 15, 2023, 04:56:26 PM
The artwork is part of the process that never ever had anything to do with Guy so his answer doesn't mean anything really.

That's a part of the process that runs most of the time simultaneously and it's run by another team, and in which MK has a said, approve or refuse. With DTRW MK refused the work presented by Salvador Lavado Design and suggested to use the picture of the road that was used in the end.

Probably while they are ending the mix in order to be sent to mastering, someone else is working or already has a project for the design of the cover and maybe is already approved or rejected, but this is something we usually don't know as our source is usually Guy, and he's not involved in that.
Thanks for the info on this subject  :thumbsup
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on June 15, 2023, 07:21:44 PM
In mid-September 2018, we saw the cover and tracklist of Down The Road Wherever. The album was released on November 16.

Maybe the strategy of the new album will be similar :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on June 15, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Where can one find such things or just go to places like Amazon and look for new album Mark Knopfler??
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on June 16, 2023, 10:57:00 PM
Where can one find such things or just go to places like Amazon and look for new album Mark Knopfler??

https://salvadordesign.co.uk/work/mark-knopfler/
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on June 20, 2023, 03:45:34 PM
I don't know why I didn't notice it before. New MK album also has Polish accents and that's very important to me. Tamsin and Emma Topolski sing on the album :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: FoodieLibra on June 24, 2023, 08:39:16 PM
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That's great to know.
Tamsin and Emma Topolski both are my favorite.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Darling Pretty on June 24, 2023, 11:17:06 PM
It is still looking good for an autumn release then.

I don't think so.
My first guess was month ago: Release maybe March 2024.
I hope I am wrong but my second favourite Joe Bonamassa just released his second single
of his new album and that will be released in October.... :o
So I don't see MK's album in November. Maybe beacuse of the wait time with the Vinyl Box Set with the Madrid 2001 Blu_ray
hehehehe
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on July 03, 2023, 04:54:04 PM
Thanks for posting Salvador's rejected artwork, Robson.

While I always thought that the front cover for Down the Road Wherever was a dull cliché (unlike the snow-covered road on the back, which I would have preferred), I can see why they rejected Salvador's proposal. It looks like poorly done Kula Shaker artwork and doesn't seem to have any connection to the songs on the album.

Let's hope he'll give the job to a really good designer this time. There are plenty of them.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 03, 2023, 07:42:19 PM
Maybe a John Bratby painting for the second time. "Watching TV" is on the British Grove wall :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 06, 2023, 02:48:23 PM
GF:

The good news is the new album is being mastered this week
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 09, 2023, 05:32:09 PM
On Guy Flercher's website:

4….on its way

 :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Stanko on July 16, 2023, 10:37:52 PM
On Guy Flercher's website:

4….on its way

 :)
There is a song brewing
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 16, 2023, 11:37:10 PM
Link still inactive. Guy is exercising our patience:)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on July 17, 2023, 06:15:00 AM
Link still inactive. Guy is exercising our patience:)

He might be on holidays or soon to be on holidays so, be patient, lol.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 17, 2023, 12:06:30 PM
Link still inactive. Guy is exercising our patience:)

He might be on holidays or soon to be on holidays so, be patient, lol.

He answered the last questions ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on July 17, 2023, 04:09:38 PM
Link still inactive. Guy is exercising our patience:)

He might be on holidays or soon to be on holidays so, be patient, lol.

He answered the last questions ;)

We all know from past recording sessions that from the announcement of a diary entry "coming soon" to its actual release it can take months.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: SadArthur on July 17, 2023, 08:59:44 PM
Link still inactive. Guy is exercising our patience:)

He might be on holidays or soon to be on holidays so, be patient, lol.
ok, thanks for the update @skydiver.
He answered the last questions ;)

We all know from past recording sessions that from the announcement of a diary entry "coming soon" to its actual release it can take months.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on July 27, 2023, 02:37:45 PM
In 2018 the album was send to the record company at the end of march 2018 and the release was 16 november 2018. That is a 8 months gap..

When is this album been send to the record company? Do we know that? Last month? Or not yet at all? I'm afraid it will be an 2024 release then..
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 27, 2023, 02:53:08 PM
I don't know when it was sent to the label but it's worth remembering when we heard the first 30 sec. "Good On You Son"
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on July 27, 2023, 02:54:56 PM
I am mentally and physically prepared for a 2026 release.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on July 27, 2023, 03:41:29 PM
I don't know when it was sent to the label but it's worth remembering when we heard the first 30 sec. "Good On You Son"

Yes, 2 months before release
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 27, 2023, 03:48:13 PM
I don't know when it was sent to the label but it's worth remembering when we heard the first 30 sec. "Good On You Son"

Yes, 2 months before release

Yes, in September, but if I remember correctly, in August we learned a part of "Good On You Son"
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on July 27, 2023, 04:44:25 PM
I don't know when it was sent to the label but it's worth remembering when we heard the first 30 sec. "Good On You Son"

Yes, 2 months before release

Yes, in September, but if I remember correctly, in August we learned a part of "Good On You Son"

Don't think so. Song was publiced at once complete. This morning i read that old topic about announcing DTRW
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 27, 2023, 04:52:28 PM
I don't know when it was sent to the label but it's worth remembering when we heard the first 30 sec. "Good On You Son"

Yes, 2 months before release

Yes, in September, but if I remember correctly, in August we learned a part of "Good On You Son"

Don't think so. Song was publiced at once complete. This morning i read that old topic about announcing DTRW

I remember 30 sec. which he posted on the jbaent forum long before the release of the single.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on July 27, 2023, 04:57:02 PM
In 2018 the album was send to the record company at the end of march 2018 and the release was 16 november 2018. That is a 8 months gap..

When is this album been send to the record company? Do we know that? Last month? Or not yet at all? I'm afraid it will be an 2024 release then..

The eight months gap is ridiculous in this day and age, even in 2018, but that was probably because of the upcoming tour and LH musical.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on July 27, 2023, 05:30:21 PM
Do you think 'it' can be done quicker than 8 months? Let's hope... Also let's hope that LP production won't take longer than those 8 months..
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on July 27, 2023, 06:34:48 PM
In 2018 the album was send to the record company at the end of march 2018 and the release was 16 november 2018. That is a 8 months gap..

When is this album been send to the record company? Do we know that? Last month? Or not yet at all? I'm afraid it will be an 2024 release then..

To a July 6th question Guy answered that the album was beeing mastered that week (at Gateway).
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 28, 2023, 07:13:21 PM
"...maybe you can confirm what official news said a year ago more or less. It is supposed to be released later THIS year. Is that approximately release date still good or does it looks more like earlier next year?

GF:

Sorry but I honestly cannot say.

He can't but he knows?

Thank you for your question jbaent :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on July 29, 2023, 04:16:14 PM
"...maybe you can confirm what official news said a year ago more or less. It is supposed to be released later THIS year. Is that approximately release date still good or does it looks more like earlier next year?

GF:

Sorry but I honestly cannot say.

He can't but he knows?

Thank you for your question jbaent :)

You're welcome.

I don't know how I should interpret the answer, if that's good or bad news.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on July 29, 2023, 04:19:36 PM
"...maybe you can confirm what official news said a year ago more or less. It is supposed to be released later THIS year. Is that approximately release date still good or does it looks more like earlier next year?

GF:

Sorry but I honestly cannot say.

He can't but he knows?

Thank you for your question jbaent :)

You're welcome.

I don't know how I should interpret the answer, if that's good or bad news.

It's an easy one. Why Guy should bother about knowing the release dates anyway? He's done his good job, not it's the job of producers, managers, etc. Mark K probably knows the approximate date, so it's better to ask him or the managers. And I think Guy will know about the release just like everybody else, from official statements.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 29, 2023, 04:23:54 PM
We do not ask for the exact date. He knows for sure whether this year or in 2024.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on July 29, 2023, 06:47:37 PM
We do not ask for the exact date. He knows for sure whether this year or in 2024.
He is in the know for sure. But he's not at liberty to say. Probably early 2024 release....
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on July 29, 2023, 09:51:21 PM
It depends of promotion.

If Mark plan to do some promo for the single, I am pretty sure that Guy is in the known as he will be required to be part of the band.



Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on July 30, 2023, 02:59:55 PM
He is not clear about what he will do in the next few months.  :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on July 30, 2023, 03:59:13 PM
I understood he knows but can't say because there are chances to be delayed but it's not certain yet.

I recall he telling early this year "yes" to someone telling if the record would be released later this year. But that was before knowing they delayed it as they were recording some more songs.

I recall GH got delayed from late 95 to April 96 for the same reason.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on July 31, 2023, 05:59:44 PM
We are waiting for new songs as much time as for album Golden Heart after the album on every street  ::)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 02, 2023, 01:06:22 PM
Did I understand correctly? Mastering will be done by Bernie Grundman. Not Bob Ludwig.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on August 02, 2023, 01:36:56 PM
Correct, and if i understood well, it's not finished mastering.. So more delay before it's send into production...?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 02, 2023, 01:39:39 PM
I also thought about another delay :(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: vancip on August 02, 2023, 02:42:42 PM
Maybe two differents mastering ? Ludwig digital editions and Grudman vinyl only
Did I understand correctly? Mastering will be done by Bernie Grundman. Not Bob Ludwig.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 02, 2023, 02:53:44 PM
GF:

Unfortunately, Bob didn’t get to master this one as he retired on the day we delivered the masters. It is in the capable hands of Bernie Grundman who is mastering the whole thing.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on August 02, 2023, 04:35:34 PM
GF:

Unfortunately, Bob didn’t get to master this one as he retired on the day we delivered the masters. It is in the capable hands of Bernie Grundman who is mastering the whole thing.
Like he retires on the day he gets the album ???
Strange....
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 02, 2023, 05:03:51 PM
GF:

Unfortunately, Bob didn’t get to master this one as he retired on the day we delivered the masters. It is in the capable hands of Bernie Grundman who is mastering the whole thing.
Like he retires on the day he gets the album ???
Strange....

Bob's probably gonna regret this lol. He said Tracker is the best album he ever mastered. But, to be honest, I can't understand how you can do audio work at that age.

UPD: Bernie Grundman is even older than Bob! :o
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2023, 07:53:53 PM
If the record is still mastering, is way back in thought...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 02, 2023, 08:11:13 PM
If the record is still mastering, is way back in thought...

2024?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on August 02, 2023, 08:29:48 PM
From the answers Guy gave me today, I understand that this time Bernie Grundman is taking care of it, both in terms of mastering all the audio tracks (various formats) and cutting the vinyl. I don't think this affects another delay (I hope so!) because the previous times always had two stages mastering, first Bob then Bernie.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2023, 09:19:17 PM
It's not who is doing it but when.

From Guy's answers sounds like mastering is still happening. As it says, they are finishing the master, that will be used to press the copies of the new record. For an autumn release that should be done or at the least the master done, as the logistics of pressing, packing and distribution is what takes more time of all of the operation.

If everything goes fast there's still a chance it goes out later this year but it sounds more likely to earlier next year.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 03, 2023, 11:02:34 AM
According to Google he is around 78 years old. No offence as maybe he's the greatest ever, but I don't trust any set of 78 year old ears.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 03, 2023, 12:40:13 PM
According to Google he is around 78 years old. No offence as maybe he's the greatest ever, but I don't trust any set of 78 year old ears.

I think a lot of people in this profession survive solely on their name. I mean Bob Ludwig seemingly mastered all the albums on our planet...
It gives me the feeling of a 3-5 Michelin stars restaurant when they got all they wanted and now can serve any food for any price whatsoever.

Don't matter what they serve, it has 5 stars so who cares! I'm surprised he's retired at all, I thought people like that were pipers to the end.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2023, 02:56:25 PM
Bernie Grundman is 79 years old according to Wikipedia
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 04, 2023, 11:20:44 AM
Bernie Grundman is 79 years old according to Wikipedia

Lolz
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on August 04, 2023, 12:15:06 PM
It has been almost 5 years since the last MK album. How many more albums do you think we wil have from MK.  He is not fast with this one..
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 04, 2023, 01:23:57 PM
It has been almost 5 years since the last MK album. How many more albums do you think we wil have from MK.  He is not fast with this one..

I think Mark records more songs than is needed for an album so in case of emergency, a new album can be made in a matter of days.

This album took a while, but knowing ALL the S*&$% that happened in the world and his personal life, I'm actually surprised he's that fast.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 04, 2023, 01:57:53 PM
It has been almost 5 years since the last MK album. How many more albums do you think we wil have from MK.  He is not fast with this one..

I think Mark records more songs than is needed for an album so in case of emergency, a new album can be made in a matter of days.

This album took a while, but knowing ALL the S*&$% that happened in the world and his personal life, I'm actually surprised he's that fast.

Exactly!

He wasn't just working on a new solo album. The Teenage Cancer Trust also needed time and commitment.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on August 04, 2023, 02:10:44 PM
This album took a while, but knowing ALL the S*&$% that happened in the world and his personal life, I'm actually surprised he's that fast.

Did anything bad happen in his personal life? What did I miss?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 04, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
This album took a while, but knowing ALL the S*&$% that happened in the world and his personal life, I'm actually surprised he's that fast.

Did anything bad happen in his personal life? What did I miss?

Well, from at least what's known to the public, his mother died slightly before the release of DTRW, and then his elder sister died in 2020. Then COVID came, which affected everybody's personal life, and then the biggest war in Europe after WWII started. If it's not enough S*&$%, then let's wait for anything else to happen!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 04, 2023, 03:04:44 PM
It has been almost 5 years since the last MK album. How many more albums do you think we wil have from MK.  He is not fast with this one..

I think Mark records more songs than is needed for an album so in case of emergency, a new album can be made in a matter of days.

This album took a while, but knowing ALL the S*&$% that happened in the world and his personal life, I'm actually surprised he's that fast.

Exactly!

He wasn't just working on a new solo album. The Teenage Cancer Trust also needed time and commitment.

And he also got involved in the Chichester run of Local hero musical. He wrote one new song and rewrote two songs specifically for this run.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 04, 2023, 04:03:42 PM
It has been almost 5 years since the last MK album. How many more albums do you think we wil have from MK.  He is not fast with this one..

I think Mark records more songs than is needed for an album so in case of emergency, a new album can be made in a matter of days.

This album took a while, but knowing ALL the S*&$% that happened in the world and his personal life, I'm actually surprised he's that fast.

Exactly!

He wasn't just working on a new solo album. The Teenage Cancer Trust also needed time and commitment.

And he also got involved in the Chichester run of Local hero musical. He wrote one new song and rewrote two songs specifically for this run.

Yes. Local Hero musical too.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 04, 2023, 04:11:52 PM
This album took a while, but knowing ALL the S*&$% that happened in the world and his personal life, I'm actually surprised he's that fast.

Did anything bad happen in his personal life? What did I miss?

Well, from at least what's known to the public, his mother died slightly before the release of DTRW, and then his elder sister died in 2020. Then COVID came, which affected everybody's personal life, and then the biggest war in Europe after WWII started. If it's not enough S*&$%, then let's wait for anything else to happen!

It's too much...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on August 04, 2023, 04:51:20 PM
And he was with Brian Johnson working for this new series. Mark is quite a busy guy.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on August 04, 2023, 05:44:01 PM
Vinyl production time is 6 months at the fastest after the record is delivered according to Guy today....

sooo...

If Mark's new record is still to be mastered, it hasn't been delivered to the production company... + 6 months..

A 2023 release seems impossible then
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on August 04, 2023, 07:11:52 PM
Maybe not the album, but if we are lucky, diary entry 4 will still happen in 2023
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on August 04, 2023, 07:35:48 PM
Maybe not the album, but if we are lucky, diary entry 4 will still happen in 2023

You can prebook slots(at a premium) so the 6 month wait can be bypassed.
I'd say it is highly unlikely this has been done by management so it's more than probable that Spring 24 is the earliest we can expect a release.
The really sad thing is that when our man has departed we will probably see speedy cash grabs/releases so it's best we accept the glacial pace of new stuff.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on August 04, 2023, 09:30:19 PM
BIA was a spring release  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 04, 2023, 09:58:37 PM
Tracker in early spring :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Banjo99uk on August 05, 2023, 01:47:46 AM
This whole secrecy bullshine is very immature. Illusions of past grandeurs I’m afraid. Few people outside of this MK community give a damn about a new MK record. I don’t get it. Just say what’s happening. If it was a new DS record then I might get it, even these days most people wouldn’t care. That ship has sailed.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Elin N on August 05, 2023, 11:13:43 AM
I so agree, this strategy makes absolutely no sense and only makes people annoyed. I know about the musical, the charity, it is worth the wait and so on, we have written about this a hundred times and I don't disagree about that, but from a marketing point of view... No sense at all.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 05, 2023, 11:46:18 AM
We all know that if there was a tour,  album would have been released a long time ago.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 05, 2023, 02:14:50 PM
I don't think touring or not touring has any relevance with the lack of hurry releasing the record. It's just that there is not a big market waiting anxiously for a new MK record and the record company doesn't care if it goes out later this year, earliest the next or spring 24. There is no hurry as it's going to sell the same wherever they release it.

Whe there was touring he always started on April it didn't matter of the record came out September or november the year before or march or April the next close to the start of the tour.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on August 05, 2023, 02:53:45 PM
My thoughts on the timing of mastering, printing etc... I compared the same period August 2018 of DTRW. well on 9th August I read that Guy replied that he had listened to the acetates as soon as they came out of the mastering. I also remember that he had posted a photo on instagram of the vinyl he was listening to. So, as a timing I think they are equal. I still hope for a release in November.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 05, 2023, 03:10:23 PM
I don't think touring or not touring has any relevance with the lack of hurry releasing the record. It's just that there is not a big market waiting anxiously for a new MK record and the record company doesn't care if it goes out later this year, earliest the next or spring 24. There is no hurry as it's going to sell the same wherever they release it.

Whe there was touring he always started on April it didn't matter of the record came out September or november the year before or march or April the next close to the start of the tour.

Tour has always been associated with the new album. Deadlines, time. It was important. Now is different.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 05, 2023, 03:22:03 PM
I don't think touring or not touring has any relevance with the lack of hurry releasing the record. It's just that there is not a big market waiting anxiously for a new MK record and the record company doesn't care if it goes out later this year, earliest the next or spring 24. There is no hurry as it's going to sell the same wherever they release it.

Whe there was touring he always started on April it didn't matter of the record came out September or november the year before or march or April the next close to the start of the tour.

Tour has always been associated with the new album. Deadlines, time. It was important. Now is different.

Touring always started in April or May, and records had been out generally September the year before, others in November, or even March or April of the same year of the tour.

The tour never changed their dates by delaying of the release date of a record. And they always left a window of time quite wide just in case so, following this rule, if there had been a tour, April 24 could be a release date with no problems at all.

And with Dire Straits they did at least one tour before the record came out (OES).
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 05, 2023, 03:38:37 PM
I understand everything and it's all true. But the dates of the concerts are planned much earlier.

I just wanted to say that there was no tour without a new album:)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 05, 2023, 04:52:13 PM
I understand everything and it's all true. But the dates of the concerts are planned much earlier.

I just wanted to say that there was no tour without a new album:)

But that doesn't affect nowadays situation.

With a tour planned they have a wide window of time to release a record

Without any tour there is even a wider window of time of, let's say, forever.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 05, 2023, 05:25:31 PM
I mean the cycle: album - tour. It doesn't matter if the concerts were after the release of the album. Mark was going out into the world with a tour that had the name of a new album. Without concerts, the cycle is deprived of one element and the album may be released, for example, in 2025.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on August 11, 2023, 05:13:26 PM
This whole secrecy bullshine is very immature. Illusions of past grandeurs I’m afraid. Few people outside of this MK community give a damn about a new MK record. I don’t get it. Just say what’s happening. If it was a new DS record then I might get it, even these days most people wouldn’t care. That ship has sailed.

Have to agree with this. From a marketing point of view, it would be much better to wet people's appetite with continued info on the progress (even if it's slow). Just saying: "There'll be an album", and then nothing more, won't help selling the album when it actually arrives. Speaking of which, that's the only point where I disagree: There's actually quite a lot of people who give a damn about new music from MK. Sales won't be anything close to DS days, but 99% percent of all artists can only dream of selling as much as Mark still does.

In the end it doesn't matter. Mark doesn't need the money, and whoever really wants his music will get it when it's ready. It's just annoying to see such an outstanding artist being supported so poorly on the marketing side.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on August 11, 2023, 06:03:14 PM
>Sales won't be anything close to DS days, but 99% percent of all artists can only dream of selling as much as Mark still does.

Oh come on there is no way MK album sales are in the top 1%.
His albums haven't graced the top 100 end of year sales for many a year.
It's a nice thought but detached from reality.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 14, 2023, 12:04:13 PM
MKnews says new MK record would be released NEXT year
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: border_reiver on August 14, 2023, 12:09:00 PM
Well, f**k... :disbelief

Bet it will be Q4 too.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 12:19:40 PM
Does the record company schedule the release so that the CD and LP will be released simultaneously?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on August 14, 2023, 12:50:12 PM
Well, f**k... :disbelief

Bet it will be Q4 too.
I jokingly said here it would be released in 2026. Might just be
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 14, 2023, 01:01:03 PM
MKnews says new MK record would be released NEXT year

I believed in 2023 for a long time  :(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 14, 2023, 01:05:57 PM
MKnews says new MK record would be released NEXT year

I believed in 2023 for a long time  :(

I wasn't sure at all, it seemed more likely 2024 and finally it has been confirmed.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on August 14, 2023, 01:27:09 PM
2022...2023...2024...20..very disappointed :disbelief
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on August 14, 2023, 01:27:21 PM
>Sales won't be anything close to DS days, but 99% percent of all artists can only dream of selling as much as Mark still does.

Oh come on there is no way MK album sales are in the top 1%.
His albums haven't graced the top 100 end of year sales for many a year.
It's a nice thought but detached from reality.

You don't have to be in the top 100 album charts to be in the lucky 1% of musicians who can make a living writing/recording/playing. Just imagine how much music is being published day by day, worldwide. Most of it doesn't sell AT ALL. Probably every name you can find on Wikipedia is in the the top 5%.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on August 14, 2023, 01:31:17 PM
MKnews says new MK record would be released NEXT year

I truly wonder what the reason might be. Just changing the tracklist, as Guy Fletcher suggests in his Q&A, can't be the only reason.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 14, 2023, 01:36:41 PM
I also wonder if this is the main reason.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 01:45:00 PM
MKnews says new MK record would be released NEXT year


It doesn't say that. It says "Mark’s next solo album will not be scheduled for release in 2023."


So it could be ... whenever.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 14, 2023, 01:48:04 PM
Mark Knopfler com:

Mark’s next solo album will be released in 2024.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 01:56:22 PM
Mark Knopfler com:

Mark’s next solo album will be released in 2024.


Ah, ok. I looked at MKNews.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 14, 2023, 02:10:29 PM
Mark Knopfler com:

Mark’s next solo album will be released in 2024.


Ah, ok. I looked at MKNews.

Mknews Twitter also says that at the nee record will be on 2024
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 02:29:53 PM
2024 it is then.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on August 14, 2023, 02:36:24 PM
That was beginning to look increasingly likely for a while now.  Good to have confirmation actually.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on August 14, 2023, 02:42:45 PM
2024 it is then.
What have we seen from MK since the last tour in 2019??? A very rare live performance of Local Hero together with Guy in 2020 and he did final works on his musical which is nice for the UK fans but who really cares about this musical?? Don’t get me wrong here but i think a lot of fans are not interested. And there is a lot off fuss about teenage cancer project but we stil do not know what it exactly is…
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on August 14, 2023, 02:49:22 PM
That is disappointing, would would have though when his last album came out in 2018 that we would not see another one for the best part of 6 years!!! Maybe he should start recording the next album now, unless he alreasy has :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 14, 2023, 03:06:52 PM
That is disappointing, would would have though when his last album came out in 2018 that we would not see another one for the best part of 6 years!!! Maybe he should start recording the next album now, unless he alreasy has :think

I’m a slow learner
I do everything slow

 ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 14, 2023, 04:15:17 PM
Look now
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rolo on August 14, 2023, 06:30:45 PM
The MK's new album is late on schedule because GF and the engineers mixed the album with a new and undiscovered technology (until now) that will make the audiophiles buy a new console that will come with the carbon-free triple LP that will become the new official album tester for the new line of Sony headphones in 2028.  8)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 14, 2023, 06:57:41 PM
If the album comes out in January, it's not bad. It's only 4 months  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 07:13:55 PM
If the album comes out in January, it's not bad. It's only 4 months  ;)


A quick, "unscientific" search of the Internet suggests January is actually good month to release new music. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 14, 2023, 07:23:31 PM
If the album comes out in January, it's not bad. It's only 4 months  ;)


A quick, "unscientific" search of the Internet suggests January is actually good month to release new music. Fingers crossed.

Exactly! Although only one album "Wag The Dog" was released in January. But let's be positive  :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 14, 2023, 08:54:52 PM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 14, 2023, 09:10:51 PM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.


Six years, that's how long it took between BIA and OES ...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on August 15, 2023, 11:43:35 AM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.


Six years, that's how long it took between BIA and OES ...

Yes and they had effectively disbanded after BIA.  Mark says at the Mandela show "this is the reason we got the band back together."  Then at Knebworth he announces they're going to do another album. 

So there's lots of good stuff in between including a massive world tour, charity shows (2 Princes Trust too), the Randy Newman sessions and touring with Clapton.  Oh yes, and a couple of soundtracks too!

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 15, 2023, 12:04:05 PM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.


Six years, that's how long it took between BIA and OES ...

Yes and they had effectively disbanded after BIA.  Mark says at the Mandela show "this is the reason we got the band back together."  Then at Knebworth he announces they're going to do another album. 

So there's lots of good stuff in between including a massive world tour, charity shows (2 Princes Trust too), the Randy Newman sessions and touring with Clapton.  Oh yes, and a couple of soundtracks too!

AND Neck and Neck. AND Notting Hillbillies. Very productive period, and when the guitar actually meant something to him.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on August 15, 2023, 12:22:18 PM
Apart from the disappointment with yet another delay, I can't imagine that this dragging and tiring process of putting together this solo album over so many years can be gratifying to both of them in any way. Something strange must have happened besides "loving to do everything slow," something Guy is not at liberty to talk about. By now they probably can't stand listening anymore to the songs they started working on in 2020/21 so many years ago.
With the TCT project things can be different, it seems to be a growing project that has taken on another and probably bigger form than originally planned. I understand that. But with the solo album, it seems so strange to me.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 15, 2023, 12:26:21 PM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.


Six years, that's how long it took between BIA and OES ...

Yes and they had effectively disbanded after BIA.  Mark says at the Mandela show "this is the reason we got the band back together."  Then at Knebworth he announces they're going to do another album. 

So there's lots of good stuff in between including a massive world tour, charity shows (2 Princes Trust too), the Randy Newman sessions and touring with Clapton.  Oh yes, and a couple of soundtracks too!

AND Neck and Neck. AND Notting Hillbillies. Very productive period, and when the guitar actually meant something to him.

Knebworth was originally billed as Mark Knopfler, not Dire Straits, but got retooled as Dire Straits for he CD/video etc. Very strange.

Two of his best albums were done in this period IMO, Neck and Neck and the Hillbillies.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 15, 2023, 12:37:06 PM
Apart from the disappointment with yet another delay, I can't imagine that this dragging and tiring process of putting together this solo album over so many years can be gratifying to both of them in any way. Something strange must have happened besides "loving to do everything slow," something Guy is not at liberty to talk about. By now they probably can't stand listening anymore to the songs they started working on in 2020/21 so many years ago ("we don't look back, we only look to the future").
With the TCT project things can be different, it seems to be a growing project that has taken on another and probably bigger form than originally planned. I understand that. But with the solo album, it seems so strange to me.


The musical plus the pandemic didn't exactly help. Plus the passing of the British Grove manager could have put the brakes on a few things as well. But then again as they knew there would be no touring, you'd think they'd have more time to focus on releasing the album.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 15, 2023, 12:52:44 PM
If this is how long it takes him now then I guess this could be his last album...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 15, 2023, 01:04:23 PM
Let's not forget that Mark composed and wrote music for musical Local Hero.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 15, 2023, 01:06:44 PM
Unless there are other projects, unforeseen events, and his health is stable, I don't see why he couldn't release one or two more albums.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 15, 2023, 01:13:21 PM
I just want to say that in the last six years he recorded three albums. It's a lot.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 15, 2023, 01:30:12 PM
I just want to say that in the last six years he recorded three albums. It's a lot.


I would say normally it wouldn't be a lot, but covid made things challenging, plus the Local Hero work has been a lot more complex and time consuming than a regular project. But apart from that, considering Mark's productivity, access to studio space, and people that handle a lot of practical tasks for him, Mark could easily release an album a year or so now that there is no touring.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 15, 2023, 01:34:24 PM
I just want to say that in the last six years he recorded three albums. It's a lot.


I would say normally it wouldn't be a lot, but covid made things challenging, plus the Local Hero work has been a lot more complex and time consuming than a regular project. But apart from that, considering Mark's productivity, access to studio space, and people that handle a lot of practical tasks for him, Mark could easily release an album a year or so now that there is no touring.

I agree. Maybe the tour was motivating him to release the album on time. Now is different..
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 15, 2023, 01:57:38 PM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.


Six years, that's how long it took between BIA and OES ...

Yes and they had effectively disbanded after BIA.  Mark says at the Mandela show "this is the reason we got the band back together."  Then at Knebworth he announces they're going to do another album. 

So there's lots of good stuff in between including a massive world tour, charity shows (2 Princes Trust too), the Randy Newman sessions and touring with Clapton.  Oh yes, and a couple of soundtracks too!

AND Neck and Neck. AND Notting Hillbillies. Very productive period, and when the guitar actually meant something to him.

Knebworth was originally billed as Mark Knopfler, not Dire Straits, but got retooled as Dire Straits for he CD/video etc. Very strange.

Two of his best albums were done in this period IMO, Neck and Neck and the Hillbillies.

It was billed as DS from the start. In Spain the official Spanish radio was broadcasting a show with songs from all the people involved as they always said it was to be Dire Straits.

The mistake it's in the video, where it says Mark Knopfler, but in all the rest of places you will see DS.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 15, 2023, 02:08:22 PM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.


Six years, that's how long it took between BIA and OES ...

Yes and they had effectively disbanded after BIA.  Mark says at the Mandela show "this is the reason we got the band back together."  Then at Knebworth he announces they're going to do another album. 

So there's lots of good stuff in between including a massive world tour, charity shows (2 Princes Trust too), the Randy Newman sessions and touring with Clapton.  Oh yes, and a couple of soundtracks too!

AND Neck and Neck. AND Notting Hillbillies. Very productive period, and when the guitar actually meant something to him.

Knebworth was originally billed as Mark Knopfler, not Dire Straits, but got retooled as Dire Straits for he CD/video etc. Very strange.

Two of his best albums were done in this period IMO, Neck and Neck and the Hillbillies.

It was billed as DS from the start. In Spain the official Spanish radio was broadcasting a show with songs from all the people involved as they always said it was to be Dire Straits.

The mistake it's in the video, where it says Mark Knopfler, but in all the rest of places you will see DS.

Maybe they said that on the radio in Spain but that was not the case for the event itself.

See below the poster, the programme and the TV broadcast, all billed as Mark Knopfler, even though Clapton says Dire Straits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiAkBT-T6ZE&list=PLMJ0SQoW73uGh4KZ1LLd9UmJ38S6nf57n&index=16

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Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on August 15, 2023, 02:33:22 PM
6 years is way too much time for him to make an album, he never took so long.
Maybe Mark has become a grandad and he chooses to spend time with his grandkids. Or maybe doing crosswords with Kitty. What does he actually do on a daily basis? I don't think he even goes shopping, he probably chooses home deliveries.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 15, 2023, 03:04:37 PM
Don't worry people, let's give Mark a break. Time flies when you have fun, he's most certainly not even aware it takes whole 6 years for a new album.


Six years, that's how long it took between BIA and OES ...

Yes and they had effectively disbanded after BIA.  Mark says at the Mandela show "this is the reason we got the band back together."  Then at Knebworth he announces they're going to do another album. 

So there's lots of good stuff in between including a massive world tour, charity shows (2 Princes Trust too), the Randy Newman sessions and touring with Clapton.  Oh yes, and a couple of soundtracks too!

AND Neck and Neck. AND Notting Hillbillies. Very productive period, and when the guitar actually meant something to him.

Knebworth was originally billed as Mark Knopfler, not Dire Straits, but got retooled as Dire Straits for he CD/video etc. Very strange.

Two of his best albums were done in this period IMO, Neck and Neck and the Hillbillies.

It was billed as DS from the start. In Spain the official Spanish radio was broadcasting a show with songs from all the people involved as they always said it was to be Dire Straits.

The mistake it's in the video, where it says Mark Knopfler, but in all the rest of places you will see DS.

Maybe they said that on the radio in Spain but that was not the case for the event itself.

See below the poster, the programme and the TV broadcast, all billed as Mark Knopfler, even though Clapton says Dire Straits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiAkBT-T6ZE&list=PLMJ0SQoW73uGh4KZ1LLd9UmJ38S6nf57n&index=16

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(https://i.postimg.cc/pdfNwKyD/Screenshot-2023-08-15-130701.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)image share (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394738852364?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749385&toolid=20006&customid=GB_11233_394738852364.143740370318~1869902156350-g_CjwKCAjwxOymBhAFEiwAnodBLO4h-yCSCn-UP4vqeNskL2LGOEv6RbjZjGk_80y5jbRa9Kx8LRblhRoCNBMQAvD_BwE

Those say Mark Knopfler because those were made after it was decided they would do a supergroup with Clapton and Elton John. I remember publicity at the time were the name was Dire Straits when it was supposed they would have their own slot, not shared with Clapton and Elton John.

Can't find right now any of that advertising, I bought it from Spanish magazines of course but they were official publicity of the festival. They also mentioned some bands that didn't appear as Queen, and Tears for fears were not mentioned at all, I think Robert Plant wasn't either.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 15, 2023, 03:14:36 PM
So to summarise:

Official poster - wrong
Official programme - wrong
TV broadcast - wrong

Julio's memory  of a radio broadcast from another country 33 years ago - correct  :lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on August 15, 2023, 03:20:41 PM
Fact is that JI and GF joined MK and AC so it was definitively Dire Straits on stage and not Mark Knopfler part of EC Supergroup - contrary to the EC 1988 japanese tour.

Reason for DS only being advertised as Mark Knopfler is unknown to me.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 15, 2023, 03:32:28 PM
Fact is that JI and GF joined MK and AC so it was definitively Dire Straits on stage and not Mark Knopfler part of EC Supergroup - contrary to the EC 1988 japanese tour.

Reason for DS only being advertised as Mark Knopfler is unknown to me.

The only guess I can make is when MK agreed to it he was in a "DS is over" phase in his head, but by the time of the concert he was getting the band back together and was happy for them to use the DS name to help their sales. Who knows, the whole thing is very strange.

PS T-shirt from the event, I guess these must have been made and sold afterwards rather than to the 120,000 people at the gig?!

(https://i.postimg.cc/QN1W0GvB/Screenshot-2023-08-15-143011.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 15, 2023, 03:43:33 PM
For me, Knewborth was the historic comeback of Dire Straits and nothing can change that:)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 15, 2023, 03:44:36 PM
So to summarise:

Official poster - wrong
Official programme - wrong
TV broadcast - wrong

Julio's memory  of a radio broadcast from another country 33 years ago - correct  :lol

You are talking about things made for the gig just immediately before the gig, when they had arranged that Clapton, Knopfler and Elton John were about to play in the same slot as a supergroup.

I'm talking about advertising in magazines and radio more or less during the year before the gig, when things like that were not closed.

So yes, I'm right from everything advertised before they closed the things officially, and yes you are right about everything after they closed everything close to the gig.

English is not my language but I find this easy to understand, lol.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 15, 2023, 03:51:32 PM
Actually as far as I recall, the advertising I read at the time during around a year before and until everything was closed to organise the gig, it said it was a gig where Silver Cliff Award Winners will perform, and DS were one, and that's why they were advertised to play Knebworth.

Then, when closing the acts, some bands that won the award didn't play, some others that didn't won like Tears for fears played, Robert Plant that just won it the same year played it, and that's what you have on official merchandise. What they closed in the end.

And the fact is also, when rehearsing, it was DS who rehearsed for the gig.

The fact official merchandise didn't reflect that when the band rehearsing for the gig was DS (MK, John and Guy with Clapton band of course) is for me more a mistake of someone because of the fact it was a supergroup with Clapton, Knopfler and Elton John.

But ok, youre right ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 15, 2023, 04:09:20 PM
It's absolutely straightforward.

There is evidence showing that it was billed as Mark Knopfler - posters, programmes, tshirts, tv broadcasts.

There is zero evidence of your claim that it was advertised that DS was playing, other than your 33 year old (actually 34 if you are saying it is from a year before) memories, but lets agree to disagree :)

PS Q Magazine report...

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Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 15, 2023, 04:23:24 PM
I have nothing (lost many of those magazines years ago)to demonstrate that I know 100% I'm right.

And I'm ok with that. Because I know I'm right, don't give a thing you can prove that close to the date they changed all the advertising.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 15, 2023, 04:25:59 PM
I said it was billed as Mark Knopfler and not DS.

I have provided evidence to prove what I said.

End of story unless you can do likewise.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 15, 2023, 04:28:27 PM
I said it was billed as Mark Knopfler and not DS.

I have provided evidence to prove what I said.

End of story unless you can do likewise.


I said I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Shangri-La on August 16, 2023, 11:26:21 PM
If this is how long it takes him now then I guess this could be his last album...

I think this album will be the last. Mark seems to be very tired.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on August 17, 2023, 12:18:27 PM
If this is how long it takes him now then I guess this could be his last album...

I think this album will be the last. Mark seems to be very tired.

Maybe he has lost his mojo. If he had any motivation at all I'm sure it would've been done and dusted by now.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on August 17, 2023, 01:09:11 PM
Maybe he has lost his mojo. If he had any motivation at all I'm sure it would've been done and dusted by now.


That's what I wanted to express with my earlier post:
Either motivation or health must be a factor why it takes him four years from his 2020 March 20th statement "I aim to be back in the studio recording songs as soon as possible" till (hopefully) a release in spring/summer 2024.
Normally when he started recording a new album he already had in mind an overall idea/overaching theme that tied together the different songs he wanted to record and finally chose to put on the record (not necessarily the bonus tracks).
This time almost everything else, every little side project was more important than his own main thing.  :think :think :think
And normally it is not a good sign to be repeatedly delayed, distracted and sidelined from your main project, especially if it is a work of art for which originally you had a vision (which if not persued in time can evaporate).
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 17, 2023, 01:38:42 PM
I attended the DS Legacy gig in Alicante last month and I had the chance of talking with Danny Cummings, I asked a few things and obviously he couldn't tell me much about MK record, but he said something intriguing for me, maybe I misunderstood him, but I think he said something like "MK was very brave".

Looking again at the pictures of the tour diary, I guess he means musically and that some of the songs have a style that is new for him, or it is not what we are used too. I seems to recall a stringed instrument that is played with two little hammers that I think is typical from countries like Romania.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 17, 2023, 01:59:10 PM
I attended the DS Legacy gig in Alicante last month and I had the chance of talking with Danny Cummings, I asked a few things and obviously he couldn't tell me much about MK record, but he said something intriguing for me, maybe I misunderstood him, but I think he said something like "MK was very brave".

Looking again at the pictures of the tour diary, I guess he means musically and that some of the songs have a style that is new for him, or it is not what we are used too. I seems to recall a stringed instrument that is played with two little hammers that I think is typical from countries like Romania.

Yes! I've been thinking about it for a long time. There's Seana Davey on the harp. There's Ed Cervenka on cymbals. There will be some surprising songs for sure.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 17, 2023, 03:14:01 PM
I attended the DS Legacy gig in Alicante last month and I had the chance of talking with Danny Cummings, I asked a few things and obviously he couldn't tell me much about MK record, but he said something intriguing for me, maybe I misunderstood him, but I think he said something like "MK was very brave".

Looking again at the pictures of the tour diary, I guess he means musically and that some of the songs have a style that is new for him, or it is not what we are used too. I seems to recall a stringed instrument that is played with two little hammers that I think is typical from countries like Romania.

Hmm, could be interpreted in another way, it would be brave to make a record while seriously ill...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 17, 2023, 03:54:19 PM
I attended the DS Legacy gig in Alicante last month and I had the chance of talking with Danny Cummings, I asked a few things and obviously he couldn't tell me much about MK record, but he said something intriguing for me, maybe I misunderstood him, but I think he said something like "MK was very brave".

Looking again at the pictures of the tour diary, I guess he means musically and that some of the songs have a style that is new for him, or it is not what we are used too. I seems to recall a stringed instrument that is played with two little hammers that I think is typical from countries like Romania.

Hmm, could be interpreted in another way, it would be brave to make a record while seriously ill...

I understood it in a musical way, specially since I don't expect Danny doing such a comment to someone he doesn't know at all.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 17, 2023, 04:06:21 PM
GF:
 
Ed Cervenka came in and added some Cimbalom, an intriguing instrument and Seána Davey played Harp on a song.


It is interesting. I remember this photo but I don't see it in GF diaries
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: hunter on August 17, 2023, 04:16:25 PM
Maybe this album is Mark's magnum opus, where he totally releases his creative forces and really goes for it? I'd love that. I loved what he did on the Altamira soundtrack. Great (but understated) guitar playing, interesting percussion and sounds, etc. I'd love for him to incorporate that into his solo work.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 17, 2023, 07:19:41 PM
Maybe this album is Mark's magnum opus, where he totally releases his creative forces and really goes for it? I'd love that. I loved what he did on the Altamira soundtrack. Great (but understated) guitar playing, interesting percussion and sounds, etc. I'd love for him to incorporate that into his solo work.

Frankly, even Down The Road Wherever feels like a "last album" contender. It has this vibe to it, as in "see you down the road wherever", a great goodbye phrase. Nobody knows how long each of us will live though, who knows maybe it's only half of Mark's career? Anything could happen, good or bad. Luckily, Mark always releases good stuff. I'll accept almost anything from him, as long as it's not too pop.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 18, 2023, 10:24:30 AM
I remember the same thoughts when Get Lucky album came out. Not only the ending of the album was a reflection on dying... And also Get Lucky tour book was very different from the album booklet...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on August 18, 2023, 02:58:39 PM
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Maybe he has lost his mojo. If he had any motivation at all I'm sure it would've been done and dusted by now.

I don't think that's necessarily true (although it could be, of course). More likely, he just won't be rushed anymore. And why would he? He's got nothing to prove, and he's written and played more great songs than almost anybody else on the planet. It's great that he's still creating, but it's not that we urgently need 10 or 20 new songs from him. Jimi Hendrix died at 27, and no one complains day-in, day-out that he's no longer delievering anything new. We just enjoy what we have, and in the case of Mark, that's a lot.

The one wish I have for the new album is that it will be on a level with all the previous ones. If he needs more time to make sure that it is, that's more than fine by me.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Knut on August 18, 2023, 07:58:11 PM
I don't think anyone is asking for it to be rushed. It's not like it's just 3 months since the last record, which WOULD be rushed. 2018->2023 is anything but rushed. Hell, even if it came out in 2020 it wouldn't be.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 20, 2023, 09:50:02 PM
I don't think anyone is asking for it to be rushed. It's not like it's just 3 months since the last record, which WOULD be rushed. 2018->2023 is anything but rushed. Hell, even if it came out in 2020 it wouldn't be.

I think they mean "rushed" not in the sense of time spent recording, mixing, etc., but how they are unsure about releasing it more quickly. They don't want to rush it.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 21, 2023, 12:39:10 PM
But why? This question is still valid. Changing the order of songs is probably not complicated.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 21, 2023, 12:58:09 PM
But why? This question is still valid. Changing the order of songs is probably not complicated.

I, for one, am a good example of a man who rushes like crazy. I rushed the production of some of my videos so much, that I still to this day lament about working a little bit more on those. Just one day of extra work would fix years of pain later. And it's just simple videos, imagine working on something that's going to last for eternity. So I have no questions for Mark whatsoever — if he wants 10 years to do it, go ahead.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on August 21, 2023, 01:15:35 PM
But why? This question is still valid. Changing the order of songs is probably not complicated.

I, for one, am a good example of a man who rushes like crazy. I rushed the production of some of my videos so much, that I still to this day lament about working a little bit more on those. Just one day of extra work would fix years of pain later. And it's just simple videos, imagine working on something that's going to last for eternity. So I have no questions for Mark whatsoever — if he wants 10 years to do it, go ahead.

I agree. We just really want this album. 6 years... But ok
... It's my way, has to be true...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 08, 2023, 01:50:15 PM
alex_pj:
How would you define the new album?

GF:

Difficult question. Obviously it’s good. Let’s put it this way, a certain mastering meister, thought it was a masterpiece.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on September 08, 2023, 06:57:20 PM
...but the next after that one will be even better  :smack
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 15, 2023, 12:28:50 PM
GF:

No horns on the new album but Mike and John do appear.

jbaent thank you for your question:)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on September 15, 2023, 12:31:52 PM
Good  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 15, 2023, 12:44:05 PM
And we have the steel guitar guy so quite a "rootsy" album potentially.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on September 15, 2023, 12:45:14 PM
GF:

No horns on the new album but Mike and John do appear.

jbaent thank you for your question:)

GREAT!  :-*
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on September 15, 2023, 02:16:20 PM
GF:

No horns on the new album but Mike and John do appear.

jbaent thank you for your question:)
Very good news!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on September 15, 2023, 03:19:13 PM
this is news!! Optimal!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 15, 2023, 03:20:47 PM
No horns, great news.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on September 15, 2023, 04:14:45 PM
Who tought the live box set was good news eh  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 15, 2023, 04:20:10 PM
GF:

No horns on the new album but Mike and John do appear.

jbaent thank you for your question:)

As you wish 😜
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on September 16, 2023, 10:12:17 AM
I dream of a real R&B album for years no bad news for me. Mark and a full horn section.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 16, 2023, 05:09:17 PM
I dream a bit about MK-style country music.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on September 19, 2023, 06:38:06 PM
...but the next after that one will be even better  :smack

Well, it's true that all MK albums tend to be masterpieces. Simply because he is a master.

They also have their weaknesses, of course. But that's true for all masterpieces I know.

I remember being nervous before a new MK album, wondering if it really would be as good as what came before. After a couple of reaffirming iterations, I lost that nervousness. He's simply incapable of creating throw-away songs. Or he throws them away before we ever hear of them.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 19, 2023, 09:38:00 PM
Heavy Up should have been thrown away!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: superval99 on September 20, 2023, 10:05:30 AM
Heavy Up should have been thrown away!

Absolutely!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on September 20, 2023, 10:15:13 AM
Heavy Up should have been thrown away!

Absolutely!

Most likely this song is a "gift" to the person by whom it was originally inspired, just like Monteleone. Mark keeps a secret about who it is, which is kinda surprising.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on September 20, 2023, 11:43:11 AM
I dream a bit about MK-style country music.

Me too!  :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 20, 2023, 12:10:59 PM
I dream a bit about MK-style country music.

Me too!  :)

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 20, 2023, 12:31:58 PM
Heavy Up should have been thrown away!

Absolutely!

Most likely this song is a "gift" to the person by whom it was originally inspired, just like Monteleone. Mark keeps a secret about who it is, which is kinda surprising.

Not really, there are a few songs where he is having a go at someone but we don't know who, Let's See You, Everybody Pays.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 20, 2023, 12:36:43 PM
I heard the opinion that Everybody Pays is about David.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on September 20, 2023, 12:48:54 PM
Heavy Up should have been thrown away!

Absolutely!

Most likely this song is a "gift" to the person by whom it was originally inspired, just like Monteleone. Mark keeps a secret about who it is, which is kinda surprising.

Not really, there are a few songs where he is having a go at someone but we don't know who, Let's See You, Everybody Pays.

Yeah, but I meant that MK himself said he wouldn't tell you who inspired this song, not like we just generally don't know.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 20, 2023, 12:50:01 PM
I heard the opinion that Everybody Pays is about David.

Yeah I've suggested that before but MK has never said.

Lets See You possibly Ed but it doesn't all fit.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2023, 01:25:49 PM
Heavy Up should have been thrown away!

Absolutely!

Most likely this song is a "gift" to the person by whom it was originally inspired, just like Monteleone. Mark keeps a secret about who it is, which is kinda surprising.

I remember MK said that the idea for Heavy Up came from a conversation with Bob Dylan, he said to MK about an argument with Bob's manager and Bob used that expression with the manager.

"his response to being told to “lighten up” was “I’ll lighten up for you if you’ll heavy up for me.”

That's what MK said during the DTRW promo interviews, which can be found in the thread dedicated to that record in this forum.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 20, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Heavy Up should have been thrown away!

Absolutely!

Most likely this song is a "gift" to the person by whom it was originally inspired, just like Monteleone. Mark keeps a secret about who it is, which is kinda surprising.

I remember MK said that the idea for Heavy Up came from a conversation with Bob Dylan, he said to MK about an argument with Bob's manager and Bob used that expression with the manager.

"his response to being told to “lighten up” was “I’ll lighten up for you if you’ll heavy up for me.”

That's what MK said during the DTRW promo interviews, which can be found in the thread dedicated to that record in this forum.

Yes. Another situational song:)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2023, 02:10:47 PM
It's impressive when someone goes to a shoes shop and came back hope with a song.

Or when he goes to a kitchen store.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 20, 2023, 02:12:16 PM
It's impressive when someone goes to a shoes shop and came back hope with a song.

Or when he goes to a kitchen store.

Unless the song is Heavy Up.

Now My Bacon Roll, that was a good trip to the cafe.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 20, 2023, 02:28:25 PM
Or when it rains in Seattle...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 20, 2023, 02:40:20 PM
Or when it rains in Seattle...

MK was actually inspired to write this while watching the movie Sleepless in Seattle, he's a big rom-com guy.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 20, 2023, 02:55:05 PM
And the history from restaurant or bar?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2023, 02:57:56 PM
And the history of the restaurant or bar?

Yes, watching an Arsenal football game with Paul Crockford at the bar of the hotel where they were during a previous tour, un Seattle.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 20, 2023, 03:08:45 PM
And the history of the restaurant or bar?

Yes, watching an Arsenal football game with Paul Crockford at the bar of the hotel where they were during a previous tour, un Seattle.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on September 22, 2023, 03:31:39 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 22, 2023, 05:07:55 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.

El Macho is quite a weird song lyrically and for me it isn't obvious that it's about Springer. Possible, but maybe not.

Don't Crash The Ambulance is very stupid, did MK not notice two terms of Clinton?!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 22, 2023, 05:13:43 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.

El Macho is quite a weird song lyrically and for me it isn't obvious that it's about Springer. Possible, but maybe not.

Don't Crash The Ambulance is very stupid, did MK not notice two terms of Clinton?!

Why stupid? If this is a conversation between father and son it makes sense.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 22, 2023, 05:27:07 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.

El Macho is quite a weird song lyrically and for me it isn't obvious that it's about Springer. Possible, but maybe not.

Don't Crash The Ambulance is very stupid, did MK not notice two terms of Clinton?!

Why stupid? If this is a conversation between father and son it makes sense.

It suggests Sr showing Jr round the White House which obviously wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2023, 05:27:15 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.

El Macho is quite a weird song lyrically and for me it isn't obvious that it's about Springer. Possible, but maybe not.

Don't Crash The Ambulance is very stupid, did MK not notice two terms of Clinton?!

Why stupid? If this is a conversation between father and son it makes sense.

Between Bush Snr and Bush Jnr I have always assumed.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 22, 2023, 05:33:35 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.

El Macho is quite a weird song lyrically and for me it isn't obvious that it's about Springer. Possible, but maybe not.

Don't Crash The Ambulance is very stupid, did MK not notice two terms of Clinton?!

Why stupid? If this is a conversation between father and son it makes sense.

Between Bush Snr and Bush Jnr I have always assumed.

yes
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 22, 2023, 05:44:58 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.

El Macho is quite a weird song lyrically and for me it isn't obvious that it's about Springer. Possible, but maybe not.

Don't Crash The Ambulance is very stupid, did MK not notice two terms of Clinton?!

Why stupid? If this is a conversation between father and son it makes sense.

Between Bush Snr and Bush Jnr I have always assumed.

Yes but Snr would not be showing Jnr round the White House, his desk, the nuclear buttons etc. He had moved out 8 years earlier.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: superval99 on September 22, 2023, 05:51:18 PM
I always assumed that "Heavy Up" was quite obviously inspired by that mother of all assholes, Donald Trump. Just like "Don't Crash the Ambulance" was quite obviously about Bush Sr. and Jr., or like "El Macho" was obviously about Jerry Springer. Which doesn't mean that everything fits - it doesn't. But that's the freedom of art: You take something out of the newspaper, but then enrich it, change it, transform it and make it something that's more universally true. A "character" that doesn't exist as such, but is constantly being reborn in various human beings. I know plenty of people who should "heavy up", even in my own life.  ;)

Oh, and I like "Heavy Up" a lot.

El Macho is quite a weird song lyrically and for me it isn't obvious that it's about Springer. Possible, but maybe not.

Don't Crash The Ambulance is very stupid, did MK not notice two terms of Clinton?!

Why stupid? If this is a conversation between father and son it makes sense.

Between Bush Snr and Bush Jnr I have always assumed.

Yes but Snr would not be showing Jnr round the White House, his desk, the nuclear buttons etc. He had moved out 8 years earlier.

Yes, I didn't realise that.   I wonder who it could have been about?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2023, 06:03:40 PM
Don't crush the ambulance is about the Bush...

Junior ask Senior to go with him to the white house, as he knows it, to show him where all things are.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 22, 2023, 06:22:23 PM
Don't crush the ambulance is about the Bush...

Junior ask Senior to go with him to the white house, as he knows it, to show him where all things are.

Yes exactly. But musically I could never understand it. Because for me it has a more French (harmonica) atmosphere than Texas  :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 22, 2023, 06:57:46 PM
Don't crush the ambulance is about the Bush...

Junior ask Senior to go with him to the white house, as he knows it, to show him where all things are.

Got his cojones on my desk in there
Made into a souvenir
Set of cufflinks, nice pair
The rest of him's someplace up here

If Bush Sr is visiting Jr at Jrs invitation, why does St have a desk at the White House with souvenirs?!

Sorry, I like the song but the concept is stupid. (IMO) :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2023, 07:02:47 PM
Don't crush the ambulance is about the Bush...

Junior ask Senior to go with him to the white house, as he knows it, to show him where all things are.

Got his cojones on my desk in there
Made into a souvenir
Set of cufflinks, nice pair
The rest of him's someplace up here

If Bush Sr is visiting Jr at Jrs invitation, why does St have a desk at the White House with souvenirs?!

Sorry, I like the song but the concept is stupid. (IMO) :)

Well Junior is dumb, so he needed the assistance of daddy who knows the job, and the desk!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 22, 2023, 07:06:09 PM
Don't crush the ambulance is about the Bush...

Junior ask Senior to go with him to the white house, as he knows it, to show him where all things are.

Got his cojones on my desk in there
Made into a souvenir
Set of cufflinks, nice pair
The rest of him's someplace up here

If Bush Sr is visiting Jr at Jrs invitation, why does St have a desk at the White House with souvenirs?!

Sorry, I like the song but the concept is stupid. (IMO) :)

Well Junior is dumb, so he needed the assistance of daddy who knows the job, and the desk!

The chorus doesn’t make sense either, “I’m handing over to you”, how can you hand over a job you got kicked out of 8 years earlier?

Honestly, MK should really just stay away from “funny” songs, he’s no Randy Newman!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 22, 2023, 08:16:20 PM
He's handing over to him because Junior is dumb and Daddy knows he need assistance.

That's what I always understood from the song. mk usually doesn't stick to the reality but creates an image, a situation

I agree with the funny songs. They are nice when you listen the first time, but they loose it very soon.


Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 22, 2023, 08:46:55 PM
"mk usually doesn't stick to the reality but creates an image, a situation"

Exactly!

This song is not funny to me. It is full of sarcasm and irony.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Banjo99uk on September 23, 2023, 01:10:21 AM
Surely its not meant to be historically accurate, the timeline is probably irrelevant. It’s just the madness of one President handing down the power to his son. A bit like an autocracy. At the time the Bushes were enemy number one for the chattering middle classes. I like the song as a bit of fun, but it’s not one I go back to often.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: MaxG on September 23, 2023, 07:57:12 AM
I don't know why people don't like Heavy Up. Its one of my favourites on the album.....I find the music and melody nice and catchy. Creative.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 23, 2023, 01:05:09 PM
It’s just the madness of one President handing down the power to his son.

That would indeed be mad if it actually happened.

But it didn’t. :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rail King on September 27, 2023, 04:05:57 PM
Mark about "You and Your Friend" (in an interview at the time): "I like keeping it open for people to use in a way that they want. If you make it specific you spoil it."

I think that's the rule he has mostly followed with his character songs, at least the negative ones. And it makes sense - he's an artist, not a journalist.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on September 27, 2023, 06:36:48 PM
Mark about "You and Your Friend" (in an interview at the time): "I like keeping it open for people to use in a way that they want. If you make it specific you spoil it."

I think that's the rule he has mostly followed with his character songs, at least the negative ones. And it makes sense - he's an artist, not a journalist.

He's both, he worked as a journalist!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 28, 2023, 02:35:08 AM
Mark about "You and Your Friend" (in an interview at the time): "I like keeping it open for people to use in a way that they want. If you make it specific you spoil it."

I think that's the rule he has mostly followed with his character songs, at least the negative ones. And it makes sense - he's an artist, not a journalist.

This interview lacked You And Your Friend but it is very interesting:

https://www.mustafaodabasi.com/dsint2.htm

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on September 28, 2023, 08:00:49 PM
Thanks for the link, Robson.  :thumbsup
I haven't read this interview before.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on September 28, 2023, 08:33:49 PM
My pleasure  :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 29, 2023, 10:35:37 AM
Mark about "You and Your Friend" (in an interview at the time): "I like keeping it open for people to use in a way that they want. If you make it specific you spoil it."

I think that's the rule he has mostly followed with his character songs, at least the negative ones. And it makes sense - he's an artist, not a journalist.

This interview lacked You And Your Friend but it is very interesting:

https://www.mustafaodabasi.com/dsint2.htm

Thanks for sharing!

"a lot of players aren't musical, but in my band they all are"

MK letting the cat out of the bag!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 29, 2023, 10:41:28 AM
Did not know that Heavy Fuel was inspired by this book:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_(novel)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 17, 2023, 12:39:47 PM
Hopefully a release date of the new album and more info in the upcoming 2023 months... Can't be long now... right?

We heard of Down the Road Wherever 2 months before release and the single dropped immediately... When the new album is scheduled for early 2024(don't know if thats the case) it can't be long now...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 17, 2023, 12:47:50 PM
The question is whether they plan to release it in January or closer to spring :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 17, 2023, 12:56:48 PM
Maybe same as Tracker (March)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 17, 2023, 01:03:06 PM
In my opinion they will follow the release as it was for Tracker... announcement January release March. Obviously I hope sooner, but it seems impossible... diary 4?? he always says he's waiting for authorization....it's curious :think...authorization??...it seems like this time it contains some very important information
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 17, 2023, 01:05:35 PM
Yes. March would be perfect. It's my birthday month :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 17, 2023, 03:12:28 PM
In my opinion they will follow the release as it was for Tracker... announcement January release March. Obviously I hope sooner, but it seems impossible... diary 4?? he always says he's waiting for authorization....it's curious :think...authorization??...it seems like this time it contains some very important information

Maybe he talks in his diary about a double album or something... that info would give that away, he isn't allowed to do so he wants to await the official announcement i guess. Something like that?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on October 17, 2023, 06:34:03 PM
Guy is neither the boss nor the spokerman.
Simple as that.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 17, 2023, 07:54:10 PM
Guy is neither the boss nor the spokerman.
Simple as that.

He is an unofficial spokesman since the moment he opened the forum and decided to answer all sorts of questions. And as unnofficial, he can say what he can say, and the official announcementa would be made by the official website or/and the press.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Neville Sherman on October 18, 2023, 09:31:01 AM
The way that time is moving on, it doesn't like an announcement about either the new album or the TCT music is going to be forthcoming this side of the New Year. Thus, no new music to listen to until Spring at least me thinks!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 18, 2023, 10:12:28 AM
The way that time is moving on, it doesn't like an announcement about either the new album or the TCT music is going to be forthcoming this side of the New Year. Thus, no new music to listen to until Spring at least me thinks!

Ideally, to get things going on time and all pieces fitting in the puzzle, the TCT must be announced later this year or very earlier with a release date in March, to coincide with the TCT gigs that annually happen at the RAH the last week of March, and a gig related to that record, hopefully with MK playing!

I really wish next year could be the year when the new MK record is out, the TCT one too and also Local Hero reachs the London stages so the cd of it is released too, but I guess that's too much :(
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 18, 2023, 07:23:27 PM
Previously, I did not know the feeling of waiting for an album for so long (on every street 6 years). But today I know how tiring it is.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 21, 2023, 02:18:46 PM
They had another recording day with full band including Graeme and Tom this time...  :o

Pics are on John's facebook.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0FhdGK4Zv1eWRaXGxTHYJxbvfbTgCC9vWvpLN3otEL1rApbyyweKeMroAkZRm7CkEl&id=100010866151747
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 21, 2023, 02:32:39 PM
I do not understand. The album is mixed... Guy Fletcher mentioned that there would be no brass instruments.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on October 21, 2023, 02:36:12 PM
Some cameras there as well. Henrik Hansen? ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 21, 2023, 02:38:02 PM
Maybe new MK solo album ::) :lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 21, 2023, 02:50:08 PM
Yes, Hansen in the background on the right...But wasn't everything mixed and mastered?? maybe some photos are from previous sessions...I don't understand though.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 21, 2023, 02:57:24 PM
Guy said earlier there were no horns on the new album... and in this pic they are present.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 21, 2023, 03:07:04 PM
Guy said earlier there were no horns on the new album... and in this pic they are present.

Yes I remember...he only said John and Mike
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 21, 2023, 04:10:01 PM
I'm quite sure that pictures are old. I saw them in John McCusker Instagram stories a couple of years ago, and the one with the horns section looks like from the 19 tour.

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on October 21, 2023, 04:10:37 PM
Guy was right at the time he said that.

Mark isn't currently pleased with the result and has decided to change things.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 21, 2023, 04:12:45 PM
This is my post from a couple of years back with those pictures

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8015.msg161430#msg161430
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 21, 2023, 04:14:41 PM
This is my post from a couple of years back with those pictures

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8015.msg161430#msg161430

Not the same, i already compared. Check Facebook of John. They recorded this week
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 21, 2023, 05:00:07 PM
If these are old photos why is John posting them today :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 21, 2023, 05:01:57 PM
If these are old photos why is John posting them today :think

I thought the same thing...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 21, 2023, 05:04:27 PM
Mike is wearing different clothes in studio, also studio is set up different, carpet has also other colour.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 21, 2023, 05:13:39 PM
The numbers on the studio screens are different…
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 21, 2023, 05:17:21 PM
Seems they were in The Cross Keys :)

https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJwFwUEKgCAQAEC6Bp27eunsarG5PqFnuKwpEUEGaa9vph_0ro3hk9tHDaHzE9TFrQiyUOAQA8bZQ0WxDOKcYbJECNv4JFF8X6WoQ1pRnHJ5Mx8_lOAYSQ&q=the+cross+keys,+hammersmith+photos&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB896GB896&oq=the+cross+keys+chi&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDQgBEC4YrwEYxwEYgAQyBggAEEUYOTINCAEQLhivARjHARiABDINCAIQLhivARjHARiABDIICAMQABgWGB4yCAgEEAAYFhgeMggIBRAAGBYYHjIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMgoICBAAGIYDGIoF0gEJMTA0MjBqMGo3qAIAsAIA&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&si=ALGXSlYd_v249xtdlk3AVmdQZZF7_TzbXpAGOB6ooTDJOH9JqfTzp3VIk15BdmAcAWSATs3G2rdKtG_WnazjHKDMvesGIXSNDN8iaaN5N0XhLCeeqFb6L7FOWf7ovEnf3ZKjJUllOuLMuJcOQN_DQqKos5jDJtkFlw9MY-_tMJ2v4ZmjtErT2uw%3D&ictx=1&ved=2ahUKEwi1gsaYt4eCAxUAVUEAHR0GB5EQyNoBKAN6BAgbEAo#lpg=cid:CgIgAQ%3D%3D,ik:CAoSLEFGMVFpcE1fYzROeW9VVXd4QWNENERzZGowVXRLWnFuUWg5ZUZJbDVJdWc3
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 21, 2023, 05:19:43 PM
The numbers on the studio screens are different…

Yes also that
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 21, 2023, 06:18:55 PM
I guess the only way to know is asking Guy...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 21, 2023, 06:24:52 PM
If this is for the known new MK record, a band session means they recorded enough songs to worth paying for the American contingent to come to London, so if the last we heard from this record was it was being mastered, this could be clearly a step back and a new delay.

I hope this is another record, Or another project!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 21, 2023, 07:37:07 PM
Maybe TCT project  :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rolleyway Man on October 21, 2023, 07:46:55 PM
Three possibilities:

-They are recording extra material for the forthcoming solo album. Personally I think this is unlikely as it has been mixed and mastered and I very much get the impression that it has now been completed and is ready to go.

-They are recording material for the Local Hero cast recording, assuming that project is still live and hasn’t been abandoned.

-They are already starting work on the next MK solo album. Not beyond the realms of possibility since Mark is no longer planning to tour.

All three of these possibilities could of course be completely wrong!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 21, 2023, 07:48:29 PM
If this is for the known new MK record, a band session means they recorded enough songs to worth paying for the American contingent to come to London, so if the last we heard from this record was it was being mastered, this could be clearly a step back and a new delay.

I hope this is another record, Or another project!

I was thinking about this, too. These guys don't come over to just say hello and have a pint together.
So I don't think this is a new picture. To me it looks like a pic of the complete band taken in 2018/2019. 
But who knows, Mark always is good for surprises. But this time I cannot stand another delay...... ???
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 21, 2023, 08:06:17 PM
If this is for the known new MK record, a band session means they recorded enough songs to worth paying for the American contingent to come to London, so if the last we heard from this record was it was being mastered, this could be clearly a step back and a new delay.

I hope this is another record, Or another project!

I was thinking about this, too. These guys don't come over to just say hello and have a pint together.
So I don't think this is a new picture. To me it looks like a pic of the complete band taken in 2018/2019. 
But who knows, Mark always is good for surprises. But this time I cannot stand another delay...... ???

But John said he went to London, and 2 days later he said they recorded with the band and posts those pics. Why post old pics?  Maybe the band pic is old and the studio pics are new.  Food for speculation haha. Lets hope Guy answers this question
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 22, 2023, 02:40:40 AM
Richard Bennett from fb:

Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on October 22, 2023, 08:22:14 AM
Is Mark taking the picture?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on October 22, 2023, 11:10:44 AM
I would like to think it's for a new movie score, but, I doubt it.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 22, 2023, 11:34:38 AM
Yes thats one of the pics on Johns facebook. Its taken with the Phone of Mike I think.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on October 22, 2023, 11:36:58 AM
Yes thats one of the pics on Johns facebook. Its taken with the Phone of Mike I think.

Can't be Mike's phone.  His doesn't have a camera on it but a whistle instead.  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on October 22, 2023, 11:57:51 AM
Nobody asked John ?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 22, 2023, 12:00:59 PM
Nobody asked John ?

Some questions on his post but no answer
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 22, 2023, 12:03:02 PM
Nobody asked John ?

He doesn't answer comments except if they are from people he knows.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on October 22, 2023, 01:33:33 PM
Nobody asked John ?

Some questions on his post but no answer

Write him a Dear John letter.   ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 22, 2023, 08:20:11 PM
I’m not Facebook friends with John but I can’t see the pics anymore?!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 22, 2023, 08:25:21 PM
I’m not Facebook friends with John but I can’t see the pics anymore?!

I can't see them either.

Did Guy answered in his forum? Maybe Guy gave a call to John and he deleted them?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 22, 2023, 08:52:30 PM
I don't see them either... Guy hasn't responded yet. Were they a spoiler? Maybe this is the mystery of the delay in the publication of diary 4??
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 22, 2023, 09:05:04 PM
Still on the Richard Bennett site!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: cannibals on October 22, 2023, 09:59:00 PM
Still on the Richard Bennett site!
https://m.facebook.com/ModerneShellac
Must be something new. Why would 2 members of MKs band post a foto on the same day??
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 23, 2023, 07:03:23 AM
Still on the Richard Bennett site!
https://m.facebook.com/ModerneShellac
Must be something new. Why would 2 members of MKs band post a foto on the same day??

Can't see anything related on Richard's site either.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 23, 2023, 10:20:19 AM
Still on the Richard Bennett site!
https://m.facebook.com/ModerneShellac
Must be something new. Why would 2 members of MKs band post a foto on the same day??

Can't see anything related on Richard's site either.

Sorry was meaning the facebook page rather than his website.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 23, 2023, 10:36:51 AM
Still on the Richard Bennett site!
https://m.facebook.com/ModerneShellac
Must be something new. Why would 2 members of MKs band post a foto on the same day??

Can't see anything related on Richard's site either.

Sorry was meaning the facebook page rather than his website.

And neither in his Facebook.

Maybe is it in the fans Facebook of Richard?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 23, 2023, 11:10:42 AM
Still on the Richard Bennett site!
https://m.facebook.com/ModerneShellac
Must be something new. Why would 2 members of MKs band post a foto on the same day??

Can't see anything related on Richard's site either.

Sorry was meaning the facebook page rather than his website.

And neither in his Facebook.

Maybe is it in the fans Facebook of Richard?

It was on the Facebook fan site page, but has now been removed as well
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 23, 2023, 02:00:41 PM
His official account shared it and signed with -cwb

John was talking about 1 day, but i can hardly imagine the americanas would come over for just 1 day. Maybe John and Mike 1 day and the rest a week?

Guy hasnt answered yet
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 23, 2023, 02:37:02 PM
His official account shared it and signed with -cwb

John was talking about 1 day, but i can hardly imagine the americanas would come over for just 1 day. Maybe John and Mike 1 day and the rest a week?

Guy hasnt answered yet

Mike and John are quite handy as they are in the UK with fast trains and planes to get to London anyday they are needed.

Americans are other story, if they come is because at least they are working a week.

It's easy that in order to fit all schedules Mike and John went one day or two to play on their songs and the rest remains for the remaining songs.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 23, 2023, 03:42:49 PM
What it could be :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: rmarques821 on October 23, 2023, 03:50:31 PM
What it could be :think
Mark's solo album for 2028
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 23, 2023, 03:54:12 PM
But I'm really asking seriously.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 23, 2023, 04:36:11 PM
Extra tracks for the next album.
Tracks for another album after that.
Tracks for a Local Hero soundtrack CD.
A movie soundtrack.
An album for another artist, Bap Kennedy style.

Just a few possibilities. :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 23, 2023, 04:43:02 PM
"An album for another artist, Bap Kennedy style"

I didn't think about that, but it's possible
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Kris-b on October 23, 2023, 04:58:10 PM
Perhaps he just shared the wrong pictures!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 23, 2023, 09:51:09 PM
Whatever it is, both John and Richard had to delete the posts with the pictures...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 23, 2023, 09:59:46 PM
And this is truly a closely guarded secret.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on October 24, 2023, 01:00:56 AM
And this is truly a closely guarded secret.

I love how hilarious it is, and how it doesn't make any sense at all. Just a picture, no comment, no idea what it means. And, like that, it's gone.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 24, 2023, 11:35:49 AM
GF:

The album is indeed mixed and mastered. Yes, the band did indeed assemble, a fabulous reunion in the Cross Keys.

So he doesn't say why... aaah :-X
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: superval99 on October 24, 2023, 11:43:49 AM
There's something very secretive going on at BG these days!   :think
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 24, 2023, 11:54:55 AM
Also GF about Brexit:

It is not the reason Mark has decided to stop playing live

He clearly says 'stop playing live'. I think that closes the door for all hopes for some RAH shows... Then he could have said 'stop touring'.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rolo on October 24, 2023, 01:43:56 PM
I love how hilarious it is, and how it doesn't make any sense at all. Just a picture, no comment, no idea what it means. And, like that, it's gone.

I agree.

Most of the times, Mk & Cia thinks that they are all soon will be at some gossip channel.

BREAKING NEWS:
Knopfler's band spotted on a pub drinking beer.
That super-mega-secret project that no one knows about are just about to be realised?
Who knows?

Stay tuned for more news.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 24, 2023, 03:01:05 PM
GF:

The album is indeed mixed and mastered. Yes, the band did indeed assemble, a fabulous reunion in the Cross Keys.

So he doesn't say why... aaah :-X

Someone should ask more about that, lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 24, 2023, 03:06:05 PM
GF:

The album is indeed mixed and mastered. Yes, the band did indeed assemble, a fabulous reunion in the Cross Keys.

So he doesn't say why... aaah :-X

Someone should ask more about that, lol

The question is. We waiting for an answer:)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 24, 2023, 03:14:43 PM
GF:

The album is indeed mixed and mastered. Yes, the band did indeed assemble, a fabulous reunion in the Cross Keys.

So he doesn't say why... aaah :-X

Someone should ask more about that, lol

He is fooling with us haha. Now he said: It was lovely to see the whole band again...  ::)

It's clear he doesn't want to tell us more at this moment. Maybe SOON  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 24, 2023, 03:21:21 PM
GF:

The album is indeed mixed and mastered. Yes, the band did indeed assemble, a fabulous reunion in the Cross Keys.

So he doesn't say why... aaah :-X

Someone should ask more about that, lol

He is fooling with us haha. Now he said: It was lovely to see the whole band again...  ::)

It's clear he doesn't want to tell us more at this moment. Maybe SOON  ;D

And he's doing it very well.

Band members gather in the studio, some share some pictures that are deleted later, Guy is asked and he gives the vaguest answer ever, even more than usual... I don't know if I'm in the mood for more mistery after more than a year wondering about the secret project that ended being the Local Hero musical and now the secrecy about the TCT project...

I'm too old for this s***.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 24, 2023, 03:26:52 PM
I couldn't help posting a stupid little thing on Guy's forum, lol
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Neville Sherman on October 24, 2023, 04:55:30 PM
I think that the TCT project is done, the new album done and that with no more touring I think MK just got all the band together to say thank you to them all for all their efforts, energy and creative input over the hours, days, weeks and years and he has announced that life moves on, his legacy is what it is, he is to retire fully and finally and that he is selling British Grove!

Then again, who knows?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 24, 2023, 05:30:08 PM
I think that the TCT project is done, the new album done and that with no more touring I think MK just got all the band together to say thank you to them all for all their efforts, energy and creative input over the hours, days, weeks and years and he has announced that life moves on, his legacy is what it is, he is to retire fully and finally and that he is selling British Grove!

Then again, who knows?

Lol

I was thinking in another funny option...

They are releasing a live record from the last MK tour but they wanted to amend some mistakes here and there so they gathered the band to record  overdubs and later apply edits, cutting here and there with fade outs and mixing them with fade ins etc
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rolleyway Man on October 24, 2023, 05:38:12 PM
Another theory…it is possible that they were recording some live performances of various songs at British Grove, perhaps for the benefit of the Henrik Hansen film. Or maybe even some incidental music for said film. Whatever it is, this is most curious!

Time will tell…
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 24, 2023, 05:42:51 PM
Another theory…it is possible that they were recording some live performances of various songs at British Grove, perhaps for the benefit of the Henrik Hansen film. Or maybe even some incidental music for said film. Whatever it is, this is most curious!

Time will tell…

Actually that makes sense as apparently Hansen was in one of the pictures...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 24, 2023, 05:47:45 PM
Another theory…it is possible that they were recording some live performances of various songs at British Grove, perhaps for the benefit of the Henrik Hansen film. Or maybe even some incidental music for said film. Whatever it is, this is most curious!

Time will tell…

I was writing the same thing, it will be to complete the documentary coming out (maybe?) together with the new album. What I don't understand is all this mystery this time
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 24, 2023, 05:50:01 PM
"What I don't understand is all this mystery this time"

Exactly!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on October 24, 2023, 06:23:05 PM
Another theory…it is possible that they were recording some live performances of various songs at British Grove, perhaps for the benefit of the Henrik Hansen film. Or maybe even some incidental music for said film. Whatever it is, this is most curious!

Time will tell…

Actually that makes sense as apparently Hansen was in one of the pictures...

I think one of Mark's biggest mistakes was to never release a proper "Live From British Grove" album in any shape or form in all these decades he owned the studio.

He has the studio, he's got the musicians, the songs. Even John Illsley recorded videos in Mark's studio, but not Mark. And even Mark shot some playback videos in Shangri-La Studios, but why not British Grove? So my dream would be to hear (and see) a live from British Grove, but unfortunately, I don't think it's possible.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: skydiver on October 24, 2023, 06:25:18 PM
"Cleaning My Gun" would be one example of a MK music video shot at BG.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on October 24, 2023, 06:26:26 PM
"Cleaning My Gun" would be one example of a MK music video shot at BG.

But it's still playback. Live in the studio is more something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx5PVjsRamk
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on October 24, 2023, 06:31:58 PM
"Cleaning My Gun" would be one example of a MK music video shot at BG.

Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI9oVAHEpJY

Seriously, one of the best live-in-studio performances ever. The original live iTunes broadcast is beyond great, they actually made it worse later on for the Blu-Ray release, fixed some mistakes and added crazy fast editing for some reason (like in this video). If you can find the original broadcast, I would recommend this.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 24, 2023, 06:47:51 PM
Actually Mike with a flute in one of the control rooms or the booths doesn't look like recording a live performance...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Banjo99uk on October 24, 2023, 06:48:11 PM
Coule be live promo stuff for new album.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on October 24, 2023, 06:53:52 PM
Coule be live promo stuff for new album.

Actually Mike with a flute in one of the control rooms or the booths doesn't look like recording a live performance...

Yeah, this is why I said it's likely not what's happening. With that said, however, it could be a good "substitute" for live shows. But it doesn't need to be a substitute, he could do it any time really. He probably still hates video format and tries to record as few videos as possible. Which is not great for legacy indeed.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 24, 2023, 07:51:51 PM
If a film like the one for the Tracker album was made, it would be fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZLk3a-Lp8c
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 24, 2023, 08:44:25 PM
Oh yes, this would be absolutly fantastic.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 24, 2023, 11:54:07 PM
I really think it’s unlikely they would have brought the Americans just to film a press kit.

Also John said he was going to record. Maybe record a video, I guess we’ll find out!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2023, 07:10:03 AM
Yes, we'll find out soon.  ;D

I'd say it's not related to Local Hero Musical as far as there are no horns on it.

I'd say it's not related to the Teenage Cancer Trust/Buddy Holly Foundation as far as I think it's not worth the cost of bringing the American contingent to just one or two songs for the record, when McIntosh, Cliffe, Bronze etc are at a short travel by train or underground.

My guess is:

a) Extra stuff for the new record, that would mean delays, as Guy said it was mixed and mastered already so they would have to mix and master again.

b) Guy's statement could also mean the new MK record is already finished and what they are doing is work on next. That would explain the presence of the horns section. And why Guy doesn't says a thing and John and Richard deleted the pictures. As far as the previous record is not even announced maybe is too soon to announce a new one.

c) It is another different thing, a film score or whatever other project that involves recording sessions and the budget is worth bringing the Americans to London. I'm not an expert on this but I guess that their flights, hotel, expenses are also paid in the salary they get from the sessions, otherwise they won't move from the US, as they have plenty of work there already.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on October 25, 2023, 09:13:17 AM
I would like another film score, but, would he get the whole band for that? maybe, maybe not. I would not be surprised if it is sessions for the next solo album, Mark must have a huge number of songs written and ready to record, I have wondered just how many songs he wrote during lockdown? he had so much free time on his hands, I just remember seeing him in the Hansen documentary looking though his laptop saying that there are so many songs he'll never get around to recording.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Pierre on October 25, 2023, 10:33:17 AM
It's been 5 years since the last album (almost 6) so he must have material for yet another new album. With no tour in bewteen albums, those may start to come in "quick" succession.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Rolo on October 25, 2023, 11:39:23 AM
Come on, guys.
It's the recording of MK's MTV Unplugged
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on October 25, 2023, 12:13:10 PM
Overdubs for a Live 2019 release?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Neville Sherman on October 25, 2023, 12:24:42 PM
Thinking back, didn't the group get together in early '22 for a prolonged session of recording? Then the album got delayed because MK had some new songs so they all gathered for another week earlier this year? Now they have gathered again for another unknown timeline. There must be buckets and buckets of songs ready for release of some sort and not just the new album. You don't record for that amount of time for just 12 songs on a new record - even if they are all six minutes long! (I wish!)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2023, 12:48:49 PM
I don't believe that these are another songs for an album that is already mixed and mastered. It must be something new.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 25, 2023, 01:35:54 PM
I think, as Guy confirmed today, diary 4 will explain a lot of things that have happened in the last while. Only I can no longer wait for its publication, never so long for a page.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 25, 2023, 03:01:41 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2023, 03:11:57 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 25, 2023, 03:12:27 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

He said the album is mixed and mastered. So you mean that chapter is closed. Even this summer there had been a rethink on the mastering (change of song sequence... I think) and he had no problem telling us about it. I think it's something else...I confirm my thoughts, it will be the Henrik Hansen film/documentary...I hope so!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 25, 2023, 03:28:23 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.

I'm happy Guy said they joined in for the evening... So they were not in the studio and only joining for the beers. Right?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2023, 03:32:29 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.

I'm happy Guy said they joined in for the evening... So they were not in the studio and only joining for the beers. Right?

If it was just an evening drinking beer, they wouldn't delete the photos.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 25, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.

I'm happy Guy said they joined in for the evening... So they were not in the studio and only joining for the beers. Right?

If it was just an evening drinking beer, they wouldn't delete the photos.

Read careful what he said..

The band were indeed in the studio with Mike and John. We were joined by Graham and Tom that evening and had a wonderful reunion


So Graham en Tom were only for the evening and not in the studio... right?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 25, 2023, 03:40:53 PM
Also no word about MK
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2023, 03:49:09 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.

I'm happy Guy said they joined in for the evening... So they were not in the studio and only joining for the beers. Right?

If it was just an evening drinking beer, they wouldn't delete the photos.

Read careful what he said..

The band were indeed in the studio with Mike and John. We were joined by Graham and Tom that evening and had a wonderful reunion


So Graham en Tom were only for the evening and not in the studio... right?

Yes, but it doesn't say that Tom and Graeme weren't in the studio :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 25, 2023, 03:57:38 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.

I'm happy Guy said they joined in for the evening... So they were not in the studio and only joining for the beers. Right?

If it was just an evening drinking beer, they wouldn't delete the photos.

Read careful what he said..

The band were indeed in the studio with Mike and John. We were joined by Graham and Tom that evening and had a wonderful reunion


So Graham en Tom were only for the evening and not in the studio... right?

Yes, but it doesn't say that Tom and Graeme weren't in the studio :)

I think it does say that.. But maybe an English speaking member can tell us more
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 25, 2023, 04:32:05 PM
It implies Tom and Graham joined in the evening.

But it also suggests the band are separate from Mike and John?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Dutchessy on October 25, 2023, 04:56:53 PM
Maybe working on a new album for Mike and John  ;) Or the band was there the whole week... and Mike and John just that 1 day..
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Neville Sherman on October 25, 2023, 05:31:24 PM
Maybe it's a sort of live two hour session to compensate for no tours in the future! A mixture of the old, the forgotten, the favourites and some of the new that can be just one takes, mixed and mastered quickly without the precision and fine tuning that they seem to take over brand a new album. Something like the 'outtakes' tracks from the STP era and music that puts a different slant on tunes we know!! That diary entry is eagerly awaited is it not?
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 25, 2023, 07:04:06 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.

I'm happy Guy said they joined in for the evening... So they were not in the studio and only joining for the beers. Right?

If it was just an evening drinking beer, they wouldn't delete the photos.

Read careful what he said..

The band were indeed in the studio with Mike and John. We were joined by Graham and Tom that evening and had a wonderful reunion


So Graham en Tom were only for the evening and not in the studio... right?

He doesn't say that they didn't joined them "in the studio", they could had been recording in the evening and after went to the pub all together.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2023, 07:07:31 PM
I'm afraid they noticed some (bad?) things during mastering and now starting to fix these things... So that they are still working on the album... more delay ugh.
I hope i'm wrong here...

They noticed there was no brass at all in the record and asked Tom and Graeme to came and play in all songs and as MK says, do as damage as you can.

I'm happy Guy said they joined in for the evening... So they were not in the studio and only joining for the beers. Right?

If it was just an evening drinking beer, they wouldn't delete the photos.

Read careful what he said..

The band were indeed in the studio with Mike and John. We were joined by Graham and Tom that evening and had a wonderful reunion


So Graham en Tom were only for the evening and not in the studio... right?

He doesn't say that they didn't joined them "in the studio", they could had been recording in the evening and after went to the pub all together.

Exactly! :)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Kris-b on October 25, 2023, 10:30:16 PM
Interesting news from Richard
https://www.richard-bennett.com/notes-from-nashville/2023/10/25/autumn-update
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 25, 2023, 10:56:35 PM
 :o Almost 30 songs already ready, plus others recorded in recent days... at least now we know more about the photos, they are for an MK album... but for which one? the one ready or for a second??
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 25, 2023, 11:02:51 PM
I think it will be a double album :clap
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 26, 2023, 07:55:30 AM
:o Almost 30 songs already ready, plus others recorded in recent days... at least now we know more about the photos, they are for an MK album... but for which one? the one ready or for a second??

I recall reading that for one of the previous records (Privatering or Tracker???) they recorded around 50 songs... And betwen the record and bonus, maybe betwen 20-25 songs see the light of day...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 26, 2023, 08:37:50 AM
If Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins only joined them at the pub, but they didn't recorded, there is a big chance that they (the rest of the band) could had been recorded the songs for the Local Hero Musical cd, as the band members would fit with the instruments of all those songs, and that would explain why Guy can say anything about it.

But at the same time, from Richard's post, I understand that they recorded new MK songs, so maybe they are already recording a new record, and as far as the previous one is not released yet Guy can say a thing, because I don't see any problem in saying those new songs are to be considered for the "already" mixed and mastered record, with records like GH or STP we've been told that MK wanted to record new songs for the record without problem.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jf9081 on October 26, 2023, 09:21:27 AM
If Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins only joined them at the pub, but they didn't recorded, there is a big chance that they (the rest of the band) could had been recorded the songs for the Local Hero Musical cd, as the band members would fit with the instruments of all those songs, and that would explain why Guy can say anything about it.

But at the same time, from Richard's post, I understand that they recorded new MK songs, so maybe they are already recording a new record, and as far as the previous one is not released yet Guy can say a thing, because I don't see any problem in saying those new songs are to be considered for the "already" mixed and mastered record, with records like GH or STP we've been told that MK wanted to record new songs for the record without problem.

I share! too secret...,why hide that they are still recording for the current album...
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2023, 12:26:12 PM
If Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins only joined them at the pub, but they didn't recorded, there is a big chance that they (the rest of the band) could had been recorded the songs for the Local Hero Musical cd, as the band members would fit with the instruments of all those songs, and that would explain why Guy can say anything about it.

But at the same time, from Richard's post, I understand that they recorded new MK songs, so maybe they are already recording a new record, and as far as the previous one is not released yet Guy can say a thing, because I don't see any problem in saying those new songs are to be considered for the "already" mixed and mastered record, with records like GH or STP we've been told that MK wanted to record new songs for the record without problem.

I understood Richard's words differently. For me it was another session for this album, which is mixed and remastered. There will definitely be a bonus disc.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 26, 2023, 12:49:03 PM
If Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins only joined them at the pub, but they didn't recorded, there is a big chance that they (the rest of the band) could had been recorded the songs for the Local Hero Musical cd, as the band members would fit with the instruments of all those songs, and that would explain why Guy can say anything about it.

But at the same time, from Richard's post, I understand that they recorded new MK songs, so maybe they are already recording a new record, and as far as the previous one is not released yet Guy can say a thing, because I don't see any problem in saying those new songs are to be considered for the "already" mixed and mastered record, with records like GH or STP we've been told that MK wanted to record new songs for the record without problem.

I understood Richard's words differently. For me it was another session for this album, which is mixed and remastered. There will definitely be a bonus disc.

With 30 songs already recorded, plus the ones recorded now, there could be two or three bonus discs!!!!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Robson on October 26, 2023, 12:56:24 PM
If Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins only joined them at the pub, but they didn't recorded, there is a big chance that they (the rest of the band) could had been recorded the songs for the Local Hero Musical cd, as the band members would fit with the instruments of all those songs, and that would explain why Guy can say anything about it.

But at the same time, from Richard's post, I understand that they recorded new MK songs, so maybe they are already recording a new record, and as far as the previous one is not released yet Guy can say a thing, because I don't see any problem in saying those new songs are to be considered for the "already" mixed and mastered record, with records like GH or STP we've been told that MK wanted to record new songs for the record without problem.

I understood Richard's words differently. For me it was another session for this album, which is mixed and remastered. There will definitely be a bonus disc.

With 30 songs already recorded, plus the ones recorded now, there could be two or three bonus discs!!!!

We don't know how many songs will be on the album. If there is a double album, it may contain up to 25 songs and an additional CD.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: Marnix on October 26, 2023, 12:59:25 PM
I am really curious how many songs are recorded all these years which never ended up to an album and are stored in the vaults and will never see the light of day
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: jbaent on October 26, 2023, 01:20:26 PM
I am really curious how many songs are recorded all these years which never ended up to an album and are stored in the vaults and will never see the light of day

That are good enough, very likely for a double cd.

All of them, a really nice box of a lot of cds!
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: KnopfleRick on October 26, 2023, 10:04:02 PM
If Tom Walsh and Graeme Blevins only joined them at the pub, but they didn't recorded, there is a big chance that they (the rest of the band) could had been recorded the songs for the Local Hero Musical cd, as the band members would fit with the instruments of all those songs, and that would explain why Guy can say anything about it.

But at the same time, from Richard's post, I understand that they recorded new MK songs, so maybe they are already recording a new record, and as far as the previous one is not released yet Guy can say a thing, because I don't see any problem in saying those new songs are to be considered for the "already" mixed and mastered record, with records like GH or STP we've been told that MK wanted to record new songs for the record without problem.

I understood Richard's words differently. For me it was another session for this album, which is mixed and remastered. There will definitely be a bonus disc.

With 30 songs already recorded, plus the ones recorded now, there could be two or three bonus discs!!!!

We will take what we can get. The more the merrier!  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on October 27, 2023, 09:18:30 AM
I am really curious how many songs are recorded all these years which never ended up to an album and are stored in the vaults and will never see the light of day

I think easily 100+ songs since the Golden Heart sessions, and maybe that’s even a modest guess.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on October 27, 2023, 09:37:20 AM
I am really curious how many songs are recorded all these years which never ended up to an album and are stored in the vaults and will never see the light of day

I think easily 100+ songs since the Golden Heart sessions, and maybe that’s even a modest guess.

Yes, I think Mark has enough songs for a few posthumous releases of original material. That's an argument against the "Mark is an average songwriter" paradigm.

No, Mark is a genius songwriting machine, and the only reason he's so successful is because he always had enough songs to record since day 1. You take any other band, and usually, there's a struggle to assemble enough original material for albums. Even The Beatles recorded covers to fill the album until A Hard Day's Night.

With that said, I think some of these songs are "nomad songs", that appear in the subsequent albums, but I don't think it happens that often.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: binone on October 28, 2023, 12:32:22 PM
Stop guessing. The real truth is out there. Mark Knopfler is an extraterrestrial.

Someone had to reveal it.
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: dmg on October 28, 2023, 05:25:28 PM
Should really be changing the title of this thread to "New for 2024" by now...or for the time being at least!   ;D
Title: Re: New for 2023
Post by: ds1984 on October 28, 2023, 07:05:06 PM
Should really be changing the title of this thread to "New for 2024" by now...or for the time being at least!   ;D

Done  ;D

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8523.0
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 28, 2023, 07:33:32 PM
I’ve just changed the title, lots of good discussion in this thread :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: WhiteNorman on October 30, 2023, 07:42:42 AM
I’ve just changed the title and find legal steroids at GNC (https://alvenda.com/legal-steroids-gnc/), lots of good discussion in this thread :)

This is what shows the excitement of fans.  :wave
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Pottel on October 31, 2023, 10:00:11 AM
I’ve just changed the title, lots of good discussion in this thread :)

This is what shows the excitement of fans.  :wave
welcome aboard  Norman!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: MagicElliott on November 01, 2023, 08:08:56 PM
Why don’t we save time and change it to “New for 2027”
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: quizzaciously on November 01, 2023, 11:47:55 PM
Why don’t we save time and change it to “New for 2027”

Great date. The 50-year anniversary of Dire Straits seems reasonable enough!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on November 10, 2023, 12:12:41 PM
GF:

"Diary 4 will come as soon as the album is announced."

From memory it seems to me to be the first time that the ending of a recording diary has been published together with the official announcement. At this point when could the album be announced? within the end of the year?

Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 10, 2023, 12:22:10 PM
GF:

"Diary 4 will come as soon as the album is announced."

From memory it seems to me to be the first time that the ending of a recording diary has been published together with the official announcement. At this point when could the album be announced? within the end of the year?

I want to be positive, and expect the record in March/April so, an anouncement will come during this month or next.

 :lol
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on November 10, 2023, 12:28:45 PM
I also expect the announcement in 2023
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on November 10, 2023, 12:37:56 PM
I hope it will be announced by the end of the year. From July diary 4 "coming soon...." this time even the diary is waiting :smack Lol
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on November 10, 2023, 01:54:39 PM
I have set my expectations for 2028. This way, if it is announced in December or even early 2024, I will be in ecstasy!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 10, 2023, 04:19:44 PM
GF:

Diary 4 will come as soon as the album is announced.

Maybe this year.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Barrow boy on November 12, 2023, 04:04:57 PM
I really hope that Mark goes on tour for this new album since I've never seen him live. Im so hyped 😆😆😆😆
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on November 12, 2023, 04:45:59 PM
I really hope that Mark goes on tour for this new album since I've never seen him live. Im so hyped 😆😆😆😆
I have bad news for you, my friend...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Barrow boy on November 12, 2023, 08:13:16 PM
I really hope that Mark goes on tour for this new album since I've never seen him live. Im so hyped 😆😆😆😆
I have bad news for you, my friend...
No more tours?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on November 12, 2023, 09:14:26 PM
I really hope that Mark goes on tour for this new album since I've never seen him live. Im so hyped 😆😆😆😆
I have bad news for you, my friend...
No more tours?
No more tours. But many of us still hope Mark will decide to do a one-off concert at a place like Royal Albert Hall or something like that.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: ds1984 on November 12, 2023, 10:07:04 PM
I am afraid that even a "one off" is not on his schedule.

At best a few promo appearance performing one or two songs and that's it.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 13, 2023, 06:08:49 AM
I really hope that Mark goes on tour for this new album since I've never seen him live. Im so hyped 😆😆😆😆
I have bad news for you, my friend...
No more tours?
No more tours. But many of us still hope Mark will decide to do a one-off concert at a place like Royal Albert Hall or something like that.

According to last Guy answers about this subject, I'd say that even one offs gigs are not considered at all by MK.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 13, 2023, 12:06:10 PM
GF:

"Diary 4 will come as soon as the album is announced."

From memory it seems to me to be the first time that the ending of a recording diary has been published together with the official announcement. At this point when could the album be announced? within the end of the year?

I suspect it is because there is a special guest featured in the diary, and, he doesn't want to announce who it is in his diary.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on November 13, 2023, 04:31:29 PM
I think it's because it will reveal to be a double album, and he doesn't want to tell us first..
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: cannibals on November 13, 2023, 11:53:55 PM
I really hope that Mark goes on tour for this new album since I've never seen him live. Im so hyped 😆😆😆😆
I have bad news for you, my friend...
No more tours?
No more tours. But many of us still hope Mark will decide to do a one-off concert at a place like Royal Albert Hall or something like that.

According to last Guy answers about this subject, I'd say that even one offs gigs are not considered at all by MK.
All very strange. Not even a one off thing or a few songs live to promote the new album??
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: cannibals on November 13, 2023, 11:57:57 PM
I think it's because it will reveal to be a double album, and he doesn't want to tell us first..
Mark will be 75 next year. What about he goes out with a double album. Retirement  :'(
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 14, 2023, 09:29:06 AM
It has actually been a long time since Mark has given a new interview of note, or been seen playing guitar.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dmg on November 14, 2023, 01:57:46 PM
It has actually been a long time since Mark has given a new interview of note, or been seen playing guitar.

Last time was the Goodwood Festival 17th Oct 2020, I think.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 14, 2023, 02:13:51 PM
It has actually been a long time since Mark has given a new interview of note, or been seen playing guitar.

Last time was the Goodwood Festival 17th Oct 2020, I think.

Yes, and he played Wild Theme with GF
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 14, 2023, 02:38:45 PM
It has actually been a long time since Mark has given a new interview of note, or been seen playing guitar.

Last time was the Goodwood Festival 17th Oct 2020, I think.

Over 3 years, wow, a long time indeed.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rolo on November 14, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
I think it's because it will reveal to be a double album, and he doesn't want to tell us first..
Mark will be 75 next year. What about he goes out with a double album. Retirement  :'(

I believe that will be his last album.
I think will be a triple one.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on November 14, 2023, 02:55:28 PM
I think they are already working on his next album hence the recording sessions a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rolo on November 14, 2023, 03:46:14 PM
I think they are already working on his next album hence the recording sessions a couple of weeks ago.

I think will be a delay on releasing the new album cause the recent recording sessions.
Maybe Sep/24
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on November 14, 2023, 04:05:33 PM
I also think there's another album in the works... otherwise the secret about the recent recording session wouldn't be explained,
it is also diary 4 which will not be published until there is an official announcement. I hope the new album mixed and mastered this summer will be announced by December....release? February/March 2024 I HOPE!!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on November 14, 2023, 04:35:11 PM
I think they are already working on his next album hence the recording sessions a couple of weeks ago.

I think will be a delay on releasing the new album cause the recent recording sessions.
Maybe Sep/24

That would be really awful... Let's hope not...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rolo on November 14, 2023, 05:19:41 PM
That would be really awful... Let's hope not...

Well, not forget that we are speaking about MK & GF  :-\
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: MaxG on November 14, 2023, 06:38:21 PM
Happy for any new material, whenever it comes. I also think people need to finally put the tour and performances topic to bed and look at it from MK's perspective and not theirs - He has clearly given it a lot of thought and would not take the decision lightly, but its abundantly clear that he knows he is not capable, for whatever reason, to perform at the standards he sets himself and he doesn't want to go out there and let himself and/or his fans down. People need to accept this and I'm perfectly happy with it. Maybe a few television appearances where he plays a few snippets would be nice but I wouldn't be disappointed if there weren't.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: MagicElliott on November 15, 2023, 02:10:36 PM
GF:

Diary 4 will come as soon as the album is announced.

Maybe this year.

There has to be something special about the album. What is there “to announce?”
Surely there’d be no reason to hold the album diary back until the album title is announced?
I suspect another double album.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 15, 2023, 09:26:08 PM
I agree. Yes, I think we will have a repeat of 2012 and I am very happy  :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: regmka on November 15, 2023, 10:01:26 PM
Hi! I've searched iswc and ascap databases and found some new entries (with strange names btw):

T-010.361.194-4 THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL
T-316.651.171-9 TV 101
T-316.667.981-4 TUMBLEDOWN
T-316.685.575-6 ROBBIE
T-316.767.512-5 ALFIE USA
T-316.767.513-6 FRONT OF HOUSE
T-316.767.514-7 MONITORS
T-316.767.515-8 MR SAGGERS IN KETTERING
T-316.767.516-9 STAGE AND MERCHANDISING
T-316.772.805-0 WALKING OUT
T-316.772.806-1 NEW LINE CINEMA LOGO
T-316.772.807-2 CRASHED PLANE
T-316.772.808-3 BREEN SCHUMANN HOW ARE YOU
T-316.773.363-9 AS LOW AS IT GOES
T-318.603.417-9 KINGS FANFARE
T-319.245.622-3 IMPROVISATION
T-319.322.515-5 SIMPLE QUIRK OF FATE
T-319.322.516-6 ESCAPE FROM THE CIA
T-319.322.518-8 SHUMANN ARRIVES
T-319.322.519-9 TRIUMPHANT HOMECOMING
T-319.322.521-3 SCHUMANN WANTS TO BOOGIE

without iswc code:
BLUE JAM
I JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE
MANIFOLD DE AMOUR
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Silvertown on November 15, 2023, 10:08:13 PM
Hi! I've searched iswc and ascap databases and found some new entries (with strange names btw):

T-010.361.194-4 THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL
T-316.651.171-9 TV 101
T-316.667.981-4 TUMBLEDOWN
T-316.685.575-6 ROBBIE
T-316.767.512-5 ALFIE USA
T-316.767.515-8 MR SAGGERS IN KETTERING
T-316.767.516-9 STAGE AND MERCHANDISING
T-316.772.805-0 WALKING OUT
T-316.773.363-9 AS LOW AS IT GOES
T-318.603.417-9 KINGS FANFARE
T-319.245.622-3 IMPROVISATION
T-319.322.515-5 SIMPLE QUIRK OF FATE

without iswc code:
BLUE JAM
I JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE
MANIFOLD DE AMOUR

Movie stuff? Although Mr Saggers is interesting  :think
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 15, 2023, 10:20:07 PM
THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL

I don't remember, but this title has already appeared somewhere.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on November 15, 2023, 10:34:06 PM
Hi! I've searched iswc and ascap databases and found some new entries (with strange names btw):

T-010.361.194-4 THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL
T-316.651.171-9 TV 101
T-316.667.981-4 TUMBLEDOWN
T-316.685.575-6 ROBBIE
T-316.767.512-5 ALFIE USA
T-316.767.515-8 MR SAGGERS IN KETTERING
T-316.767.516-9 STAGE AND MERCHANDISING
T-316.772.805-0 WALKING OUT
T-316.773.363-9 AS LOW AS IT GOES
T-318.603.417-9 KINGS FANFARE
T-319.245.622-3 IMPROVISATION
T-319.322.515-5 SIMPLE QUIRK OF FATE

without iswc code:
BLUE JAM
I JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE
MANIFOLD DE AMOUR

Movie stuff? Although Mr Saggers is interesting  :think

Some of these (Robbie, Alfie USA, Mr Saggers in Kettering and Stage and Merchandising) are not song titles but titles of some of Guy Fletcher's video clips from his 2008 (?) Tour Diary.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2023, 10:38:39 PM
THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL

I don't remember, but this title has already appeared somewhere.

Yes, this one comes from the STP sessions with the same code if I remember well.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2023, 10:41:01 PM
Hi! I've searched iswc and ascap databases and found some new entries (with strange names btw):

T-010.361.194-4 THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL
T-316.651.171-9 TV 101
T-316.667.981-4 TUMBLEDOWN
T-316.685.575-6 ROBBIE
T-316.767.512-5 ALFIE USA
T-316.767.515-8 MR SAGGERS IN KETTERING
T-316.767.516-9 STAGE AND MERCHANDISING
T-316.772.805-0 WALKING OUT
T-316.773.363-9 AS LOW AS IT GOES
T-318.603.417-9 KINGS FANFARE
T-319.245.622-3 IMPROVISATION
T-319.322.515-5 SIMPLE QUIRK OF FATE

without iswc code:
BLUE JAM
I JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE
MANIFOLD DE AMOUR

Movie stuff? Although Mr Saggers is interesting  :think

Some of these (Robbie, Alfie USA, Mr Saggers in Kettering and Stage and Merchandising) are not song titles but titles of some of Guy Fletcher's video clips from his 2008 (?) Tour Diary.

LE

You are right, but is strange that they have a iswc code... I'm not an expert on this but usually those codes are assigned to songs, usually in records. Maybe they are assigned too in dvds or blurays? I think I never saw those codes further than records.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2023, 10:45:13 PM
I think that starting from "walking out" those are songs, the rest seems video titles as LE said from the KTGC videos that Guy uploaded to his old site.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on November 15, 2023, 10:46:38 PM
Yes I remember they were officially released later in a Deluxe Box or some other release.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 15, 2023, 10:53:34 PM
Three titles mentions Schumann... Sounds like s film, documentary or TV series...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dmg on November 15, 2023, 11:30:55 PM
Glenn Saggers was his guitar tech on tour. 

Kings Fanfare could be about the Coronation of Charles III.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 15, 2023, 11:43:01 PM
Glenn Saggers was his guitar tech on tour. 

Kings Fanfare could be about the Coronation of Charles III.

Or Elvis, although it’s unlikely MK would ever write a song about him, as he wasn’t a boxer.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 16, 2023, 02:34:22 AM
Glenn Saggers was his guitar tech on tour. 

Kings Fanfare could be about the Coronation of Charles III.

Or Elvis, although it’s unlikely MK would ever write a song about him, as he wasn’t a boxer.

Why not? There's a song about Elvis on Shangri-La album.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 16, 2023, 02:45:35 AM
THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL

I don't remember, but this title has already appeared somewhere.

Yes, this one comes from the STP sessions with the same code if I remember well.

It's true. This title appears with Sailing To Philadelphia. Along with the other eleven titles.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 16, 2023, 07:08:52 AM
Glenn Saggers was his guitar tech on tour. 

Kings Fanfare could be about the Coronation of Charles III.

Or Elvis, although it’s unlikely MK would ever write a song about him, as he wasn’t a boxer.

Why not? There's a song about Elvis on Shangri-La album.

(https://frinkiac.com/meme/S06E18/348647.jpg?b64lines=VGhhdCdzCiB0aGUgam9rZS4g)

At least one other but it’s quite obscure so you may not have heard it, also one about his manager.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 16, 2023, 08:07:35 AM
I used the BING AI to ask about Breen Schumann and the answer it gives it's odd:

Breen Schumann is not a person, but the title of a piece of music composed by James Newton Howard for the soundtrack of the film The Fugitive. It is a piece that plays when the character of Richard Kimble (played by Harrison Ford) meets Dr. Charles Nichols (played by Jeroen Krabbé), who turns out to be responsible for the murder of his wife. The title refers to the names of the two protagonists: Kimble, who poses as a doctor named Breen, and Nichols, who is an expert on the work of composer Robert Schumann.


There is not any piece with that title in that film score, and of course the ISWC code says it is Knopfler the writer, so the James Newton Howard reference made by the AI doesn't makes sense. Regarding the Breen Schumann character in the film, I watched it many many years ago, but I don't recall that at all. Probably this means nothing.

EDIT: Could it be a musical about THE FUGITIVE?

LOL
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 16, 2023, 09:11:46 AM
Hi! I've searched iswc and ascap databases and found some new entries (with strange names btw):

T-010.361.194-4 THE HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL
T-316.651.171-9 TV 101
T-316.667.981-4 TUMBLEDOWN
T-316.685.575-6 ROBBIE
T-316.767.512-5 ALFIE USA
T-316.767.513-6 FRONT OF HOUSE
T-316.767.514-7 MONITORS
T-316.767.515-8 MR SAGGERS IN KETTERING
T-316.767.516-9 STAGE AND MERCHANDISING
T-316.772.805-0 WALKING OUT
T-316.772.806-1 NEW LINE CINEMA LOGO
T-316.772.807-2 CRASHED PLANE
T-316.772.808-3 BREEN SCHUMANN HOW ARE YOU
T-316.773.363-9 AS LOW AS IT GOES
T-318.603.417-9 KINGS FANFARE
T-319.245.622-3 IMPROVISATION
T-319.322.515-5 SIMPLE QUIRK OF FATE
T-319.322.516-6 ESCAPE FROM THE CIA
T-319.322.518-8 SHUMANN ARRIVES
T-319.322.519-9 TRIUMPHANT HOMECOMING
T-319.322.521-3 SCHUMANN WANTS TO BOOGIE

without iswc code:
BLUE JAM
I JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE
MANIFOLD DE AMOUR

Thanks regmka about the find.

I'm a bit bored today at work so in order to kill time I did some researches...

T-316.651.171-9 TV 101

Looks like there are a tv series with that name, from 1988 to 1989 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094561/. Google also says that it's a tv channel in Málaga, Spain, LOL

T-316.667.981-4 TUMBLEDOWN

There is a film, also from 1988 with that title, with Colin Firth https://www.filmaffinity.com/es/film699433.html

Looks like it makes reference to something related to the Falklands war

T-316.685.575-6 ROBBIE
T-316.767.512-5 ALFIE USA
T-316.767.513-6 FRONT OF HOUSE
T-316.767.514-7 MONITORS
T-316.767.515-8 MR SAGGERS IN KETTERING
T-316.767.516-9 STAGE AND MERCHANDISING

All these ones are titles of the videos that Guy uploaded to his site during the KTGC tour as LE already mentioned.

All the rest, starting from "New Line Cinema logo" and the rest of titles, seems that describes parts of a film, and the answer gave by the BING AI about The Fugitive relation with "Breen Schumann", I didn't find any link with the film, but titles like "SIMPLE QUIRK OF FATE" or "ESCAPE FROM THE CIA" makes sense with that film, the others, specially "SCHUMANN WANTS TO BOOGIE" doesn't but who knows...

I love these misterious things  :lol
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: JF on November 16, 2023, 10:05:27 AM
Yes I remember they were officially released later in a Deluxe Box or some other release.

LE

yes exactly, they are featuring on the DVD bonus disc in the Get Lucky deluxe edition
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dmg on November 16, 2023, 02:12:29 PM
Glenn Saggers was his guitar tech on tour. 

Kings Fanfare could be about the Coronation of Charles III.

Or Elvis, although it’s unlikely MK would ever write a song about him, as he wasn’t a boxer.

 :lol
Yes, Elvis is more likely than Charlie as he hasn't done a song about him yet.

Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 16, 2023, 04:45:18 PM
Glenn Saggers was his guitar tech on tour. 

Kings Fanfare could be about the Coronation of Charles III.

Or Elvis, although it’s unlikely MK would ever write a song about him, as he wasn’t a boxer.

 :lol
Yes, Elvis is more likely than Charlie as he hasn't done a song about him yet.

Actually he did, two instrumentals for a documentary about him and his first wife.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dmg on November 16, 2023, 07:38:01 PM
Glenn Saggers was his guitar tech on tour. 

Kings Fanfare could be about the Coronation of Charles III.

Or Elvis, although it’s unlikely MK would ever write a song about him, as he wasn’t a boxer.

 :lol
Yes, Elvis is more likely than Charlie as he hasn't done a song about him yet.

Actually he did, two instrumentals for a documentary about him and his first wife.

I wasn't clear.  I was referring to Elvis and being sarcastic.

You're right though!  If it is about CRIII then that's been done before too.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on November 21, 2023, 08:58:37 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67475099

"I've had a bit of a writing jag and I've got quite a lot of songs, so I'm hoping that I can get an EP out as well as an LP," he said."

So we're having two records...

At last, some news.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Neville Sherman on November 21, 2023, 09:26:03 AM
And ..... and .... and .... if the LP has a deluxe verision, there could be 18 or so songs on that alone. Add an EP of say another seven songs and you are at 25! I can live with that after so long . . . . !!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Pottel on November 21, 2023, 09:58:55 AM
also, an LP can be a double one
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Neville Sherman on November 21, 2023, 10:16:21 AM
Indeed! Hopefully we will hear news of what is to be before the turkeys meet their annual fate!!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 21, 2023, 12:16:00 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67475099

"I've had a bit of a writing jag and I've got quite a lot of songs, so I'm hoping that I can get an EP out as well as an LP," he said."

So we're having two records...

At last, some news.

Thank you for this message :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: quizzaciously on November 21, 2023, 12:17:34 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67475099

"I've had a bit of a writing jag and I've got quite a lot of songs, so I'm hoping that I can get an EP out as well as an LP," he said."

So we're having two records...

At last, some news.

Thank you for this message :)

Hey native speakers, what's "writing jag"? I understand it from the context it's the opposite of writer's block, but what it means exactly?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on November 21, 2023, 12:50:41 PM
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/jag

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on November 21, 2023, 01:29:56 PM
We finally know directly from Mark why the band reunited again, an album and an EP! At this point, I think, Guy might release diary 4...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 21, 2023, 02:08:47 PM
We finally know directly from Mark why the band reunited again, an album and an EP! At this point, I think, Guy might release diary 4...

Exactly!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 25, 2023, 02:55:45 AM
The title of the new album already exists :)

GF:

Lots of music to come
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on November 25, 2023, 09:55:50 AM
The title of the new album already exists :)

GF:

Lots of music to come

The album artwork is also ready! I can't wait to discover the cover.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: quizzaciously on November 25, 2023, 10:14:02 AM
The title of the new album already exists :)

GF:

Lots of music to come

The album artwork is also ready! I can't wait to discover the cover.

Don't be so fast, Mark's album pictures is never the best part of the experience, especially after the road on down the road album, so I'd lower my expectations.

I remember recreating this cover in Paint in 5 minutes and still when you search "Down The Road Wherever" you can find my fast forgery treated like the real deal.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on November 25, 2023, 12:29:23 PM
The title of the new album already exists :)

GF:

Lots of music to come

The album artwork is also ready! I can't wait to discover the cover.

Don't be so fast, Mark's album pictures is never the best part of the experience, especially after the road on down the road album, so I'd lower my expectations.

I remember recreating this cover in Paint in 5 minutes and still when you search "Down The Road Wherever" you can find my fast forgery treated like the real deal.
The cover of DRTW is my favourite. Very simple but very evocative at the same time
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 25, 2023, 12:36:17 PM
The title of the new album already exists :)

GF:

Lots of music to come

The album artwork is also ready! I can't wait to discover the cover.

Don't be so fast, Mark's album pictures is never the best part of the experience, especially after the road on down the road album, so I'd lower my expectations.

I remember recreating this cover in Paint in 5 minutes and still when you search "Down The Road Wherever" you can find my fast forgery treated like the real deal.
The cover of DRTW is my favourite. Very simple but very evocative at the same time

That's true. But I also like Tracker album cover. In my opinion, Tracker's graphic design is the best. The album booklet is wonderful. Photos illustrating songs.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dmg on November 25, 2023, 01:21:57 PM
The title of the new album already exists :)

GF:

Lots of music to come

The album artwork is also ready! I can't wait to discover the cover.

Don't be so fast, Mark's album pictures is never the best part of the experience, especially after the road on down the road album, so I'd lower my expectations.

I remember recreating this cover in Paint in 5 minutes and still when you search "Down The Road Wherever" you can find my fast forgery treated like the real deal.

My expectations are are about zero; I don't think there's an album cover I really like from his solo work, or even DS for that matter.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Banjo99uk on November 25, 2023, 01:57:56 PM
The title of the new album already exists :)

GF:

Lots of music to come

The album artwork is also ready! I can't wait to discover the cover.

Don't be so fast, Mark's album pictures is never the best part of the experience, especially after the road on down the road album, so I'd lower my expectations.

I remember recreating this cover in Paint in 5 minutes and still when you search "Down The Road Wherever" you can find my fast forgery treated like the real deal.

My expectations are are about zero; I don't think there's an album cover I really like from his solo work, or even DS for that matter.
I remember liking Love Over Gold when I first saw it, and being completely confused by Making Movies.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: ds1984 on November 25, 2023, 02:34:57 PM
I don't mind much about album cover.

Of course I like some better that others but they are not a big deal to me.

Mark has serious interest in paintings and some album covers are reflecting his tastes in that matter.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 25, 2023, 03:53:51 PM
Just one. John Bratby. Maybe the latest cover will also be by this painter:)

Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: ManCrum on November 25, 2023, 07:38:17 PM
I don't mind much about album cover.

Of course, does phentermine make you horny (https://thefecaltransplantfoundation.org/does-phentermine-make-you-horny/) I like some better that others but they are not a big deal to me.

Mark has serious interest in paintings and some album covers are reflecting his tastes in that matter.

This kind of words increase the curiosity of fans. Specially like me.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: cannibals on November 26, 2023, 08:45:12 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67475099

"I've had a bit of a writing jag and I've got quite a lot of songs, so I'm hoping that I can get an EP out as well as an LP," he said."

So we're having two records...

At last, some news.
Perhaps this was also a good moment to say something about his touring plans as in no more tour for me.... But he did not...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on November 26, 2023, 11:44:31 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67475099

"I've had a bit of a writing jag and I've got quite a lot of songs, so I'm hoping that I can get an EP out as well as an LP," he said."

So we're having two records...

At last, some news.
Perhaps this was also a good moment to say something about his touring plans as in no more tour for me.... But he did not...
Which is exactly what he said he would do: not talk about it.

Does that mean the 2019 dates will be his last proper tour?
“It might very well be. It will be funny to say goodbye to it, because it’s always been the end of the cycle. But I won’t think about it. I’ll just make a record like I’ve always made, and then when it comes to talking about the tour, I just won’t talk about it.”
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 28, 2023, 07:16:57 PM
This silence is unbearable. It is worth asking Guy Fletcher whether the album will be released in winter or spring. When will the first single be released? Maybe he will answer.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: cannibals on November 28, 2023, 07:42:55 PM
This silence is unbearable. It is worth asking Guy Fletcher whether the album will be released in winter or spring. When will the first single be released? Maybe he will answer.
Go for it  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on November 28, 2023, 08:01:17 PM
I can not register :(
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 01, 2023, 10:26:31 PM
The last month of this year begins. I don't think there will be an important announcement before Christmas.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: SlowLearner on December 02, 2023, 08:37:03 PM
The last month of this year begins. I don't think there will be an important announcement before Christmas.

Why? What makes you think that?
Not even a little optimism?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 02, 2023, 09:33:46 PM
The last month of this year begins. I don't think there will be an important announcement before Christmas.

Why? What makes you think that?
Not even a little optimism?

It's all taking too long.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Neville Sherman on December 03, 2023, 09:45:25 AM
With all the hullabaloo that is to take place with the auction of the guitars, I can not imagine news of new material not appearing at the same time. It's too good an opportunity to miss surely . . ..!!!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 07, 2023, 12:30:08 AM
Guy about Mark:

He has been mulling the idea of thinning out the collection for a long time. The sale in no way reflects on his enthusiasm for music creation. He’s as excited to come into the studio and record as ever.


I  am very happy :)


Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 09, 2023, 01:02:20 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on December 09, 2023, 01:51:20 PM
We know 4 new titles... also some details on the edition formats... deluxe version and bonus tracks... I wonder then: if it was allowed to say this in the auction catalogue, I would expect an announcement very soon... in December? I think for sure in January while the exhibition is on. What do you think about it?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 09, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track

I think the second or third song was a bonus track too
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 09, 2023, 02:41:11 PM
We know 4 new titles... also some details on the edition formats... deluxe version and bonus tracks... I wonder then: if it was allowed to say this in the auction catalogue, I would expect an announcement very soon... in December? I think for sure in January while the exhibition is on. What do you think about it?

I was thinking the same. I think the announcement could be in the remaining of December or at least I hope so, thinking that these titles are mentioned probably from MK himself, or maybe his guitar tech, but obviously approved by MK.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 09, 2023, 03:34:30 PM
From the Privateering session: "Dream Or Two" My first thought: "Just A Boy Away From Home"
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on December 09, 2023, 03:49:37 PM
We know 4 new titles... also some details on the edition formats... deluxe version and bonus tracks... I wonder then: if it was allowed to say this in the auction catalogue, I would expect an announcement very soon... in December? I think for sure in January while the exhibition is on. What do you think about it?

I was thinking the same. I think the announcement could be in the remaining of December or at least I hope so, thinking that these titles are mentioned probably from MK himself, or maybe his guitar tech, but obviously approved by MK.
Exact! Of course there was the approval of MK and the record company, they could easily just mention that the guitar in question had also been used in the next album 2024...instead of the opposite...it's better that way!! I hope for the announcement very soon... under the Christmas tree perhaps. Let's prepare some questions/confirmations for Guy Lol
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 11, 2023, 01:03:28 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 11, 2023, 01:14:23 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track

That's right. We know there will be a deluxe version:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 11, 2023, 01:18:16 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track

That's right. We know there will be a deluxe version:)

and an EP!!!!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 11, 2023, 01:21:38 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track

That's right. We know there will be a deluxe version:)

and an EP!!!!

Yes. I wonder if the EP will be released on the same day or later.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 11, 2023, 01:33:16 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track

Not any of these titles are yet on ASCAP or ISWC  :think
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on December 11, 2023, 01:43:46 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track

Not any of these titles are yet on ASCAP or ISWC  :think

I did the same search this morning and couldn't find any of it either.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rail King on December 11, 2023, 02:31:16 PM
Where did you find these titles, Jbaent?

New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on December 11, 2023, 04:33:01 PM
In the lot essays written by some of the guitars of the MK collection Auction.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 15, 2023, 03:30:10 PM
GF:

a separate EP is planned completely independent of the album.

thanks jbaent  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 15, 2023, 04:29:51 PM
GF:

a separate EP is planned completely independent of the album.

thanks jbaent  ;)

My pleasure  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on December 15, 2023, 05:05:20 PM
GF:

a separate EP is planned completely independent of the album.

thanks jbaent  ;)
I was kind of hoping they would release this EP as a surprise just before Christmas. Unfortunately, that won't be the case.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on December 15, 2023, 07:04:24 PM
Maybe an exclusive Record Store Day 2024 release?

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 15, 2023, 07:10:03 PM
Maybe an exclusive Record Store Day 2024 release?

LE

I hope not. And it will be a normal CD version, not just vinyl (The Honky Tonk Demos)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 18, 2023, 04:29:55 PM
"As it is nearly Christmas do you think we will get any kind of release announcement as a present?

GF:

I hope so.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Silvertown on December 18, 2023, 06:14:32 PM
"As it is nearly Christmas do you think we will get any kind of release announcement as a present?

GF:

I hope so.

 :D Me too...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 20, 2023, 04:04:09 PM
News about new album during the Holiday period.:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 20, 2023, 04:40:50 PM
News about new album during the Holiday period.:)

Considering it's Guy who says it, which holidays period, Christmas, Easter, summer or next year holidays?

Lol
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 20, 2023, 04:55:13 PM
I have no doubt that we will receive news this Christmas. I understand sarcasm, but you can write the same to Guy.  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 20, 2023, 04:57:47 PM
I have no doubt that we will receive news this Christmas. I understand sarcasm, but you can write the same to Guy.  ;)

What for?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on December 20, 2023, 06:53:56 PM
Hi Guy, now that we know that in addition to the new album we will also have an EP independent of the first one, maybe the time has finally come to discover diary 4? Can you give us this Christmas present?
Merry Christmas!

GF:
"I will do so over the Holiday period."

I hope at least that diary 4 arrives.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: SlowLearner on December 21, 2023, 07:08:14 PM
New titles:

Watch Me Gone
Smart Money
The Living End - bonus track expected for release on a deluxe edition
Fat Chance Dupree - bonus track

Anyone willing to speculate on these titles while we wait for more news?

Could "Smart Money" be the opposite of "Money For Nothing"?

"The Living End" seems maybe like a parody of the breakup of Dire Straits as the band, perhaps Terminal of Tribute To part 2? Or maybe a parody of the last few years?

Just my two cents. What do others think?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 21, 2023, 07:16:19 PM
I think "The Living End" will be very personal because it's a bonus song. Same as Pale Imitation
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dmg on December 21, 2023, 10:16:10 PM
I wonder where he got the inspiration for The Living End?

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c106c080-0ed3-46b9-af3a-c9e402ae91a6

Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Stanko on December 27, 2023, 08:28:34 PM
Smart Money is an oxymoron
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 27, 2023, 09:28:35 PM
Why do we have to wait so long for the release date to be announced?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 27, 2023, 09:39:52 PM
Why do we have to wait so long for the release date to be announced?

Because we are all slow learners.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 27, 2023, 09:43:16 PM
Why do we have to wait so long for the release date to be announced?

Because we are all slow learners.

You are right, but the waiting time is becoming unbearable:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 29, 2023, 05:03:14 PM
New album plus EP
Guitar Collection: Live Auction
TCT project
Musical Local Hero

Lots of important events but too few when there are no concerts. I wonder if anything else will happen in 2024.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on December 29, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
New album plus EP
Guitar Collection: Live Auction
TCT project
Musical Local Hero

Lots of important events but too few when there are no concerts. I wonder if anything else will happen in 2024.

I'm not sure that we'll see the musical next year... I hope so but it's on hold according to Guy.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rolleyway Man on December 31, 2023, 01:39:25 AM
New album plus EP
Guitar Collection: Live Auction
TCT project
Musical Local Hero

Lots of important events but too few when there are no concerts. I wonder if anything else will happen in 2024.

And the new ‘Good Times’ TV series with Brian Johnson. Hopefully that will surface during 2024.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 31, 2023, 01:55:18 PM
New album plus EP
Guitar Collection: Live Auction
TCT project
Musical Local Hero

Lots of important events but too few when there are no concerts. I wonder if anything else will happen in 2024.

I'm not sure that we'll see the musical next year... I hope so but it's on hold according to Guy.

That's right Musical Local Hero uncertainty.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on December 31, 2023, 01:56:14 PM
Good Times’ TV series with Brian Johnson

 :thumbsup Yes! :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Stanko on December 31, 2023, 08:42:18 PM
I have become comfortably numb
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on December 31, 2023, 09:38:20 PM
Cheers

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 03, 2024, 11:08:55 AM
Don't forget the good old documentary from Henrik Hansen :hmm it was meant to come out in 2018!!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 04, 2024, 09:25:41 PM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

Beryl single was released in January. I have to look because I have somewhere the exact first information about the album "Tracker"
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: ds1984 on January 04, 2024, 09:41:30 PM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

I had been mad aware of Golden Heart when France Inter radio broadcasted Darling Pretty single from the then forthcoming album.
A week later or so my record dealer knowing I was a big fan provided me the advance copy of the album in cardboard - a full month before street release.

At that time I wasn't aware of dsis.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on January 04, 2024, 09:51:02 PM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

Beryl single was released in January. I have to look because I have somewhere the exact first information about the album "Tracker"

"Tracker"
I remember first non-"official" information January 9, 2015. Official announcement January 16 with single Beryl. album then released on March 10th. I really hope that this time too it comes out in March. I don't think they don't exploit the media thing about the auction..
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 04, 2024, 09:53:29 PM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

Beryl single was released in January. I have to look because I have somewhere the exact first information about the album "Tracker"

"Tracker"
I remember first non-"official" information January 9, 2015. Official announcement January 16 with single Beryl. album then released on March 10th. I really hope that this time too it comes out in March. I don't think they don't exploit the media thing about the auction..

 :thumbsup

There is a real chance of an album in March:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on January 04, 2024, 10:15:26 PM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

Beryl single was released in January. I have to look because I have somewhere the exact first information about the album "Tracker"

"Tracker"
I remember first non-"official" information January 9, 2015. Official announcement January 16 with single Beryl. album then released on March 10th. I really hope that this time too it comes out in March. I don't think they don't exploit the media thing about the auction..

 :thumbsup

There is a real chance of an album in March:)

Too much waiting... I'll be repetitive but I don't think they won't take the opportunity of the auction to announce a new album, it would be a wasted opportunity in my opinion. If it's not announced now for March when might they come out? There aren't even any more tours, and it's difficult to find your way around now.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 04, 2024, 10:16:40 PM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

I had been mad aware of Golden Heart when France Inter radio broadcasted Darling Pretty single from the then forthcoming album.
A week later or so my record dealer knowing I was a big fan provided me the advance copy of the album in cardboard - a full month before street release.

At that time I wasn't aware of dsis.

I a little earlier. I remember and have a Music Magazine about The Notting Hillbillies from 1990. Important to me. A year later coming home from school in my backpack I had a cassette on overy streeet.... Those were the days without the internet. The Golden Heart album was a new beginning for me.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 04, 2024, 10:18:03 PM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

Beryl single was released in January. I have to look because I have somewhere the exact first information about the album "Tracker"

"Tracker"
I remember first non-"official" information January 9, 2015. Official announcement January 16 with single Beryl. album then released on March 10th. I really hope that this time too it comes out in March. I don't think they don't exploit the media thing about the auction..

 :thumbsup

There is a real chance of an album in March:)

Too much waiting... I'll be repetitive but I don't think they won't take the opportunity of the auction to announce a new album, it would be a wasted opportunity in my opinion. If it's not announced now for March when might they come out? There aren't even any more tours, and it's difficult to find your way around now.

It's true.
If there was a first single in January then an album in March. This makes sense
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 05, 2024, 09:21:32 AM
They might take the opportunity to release the E.P. around the auction time, and announce the album too, it would be a good marketing strategy.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: skydiver on January 05, 2024, 09:30:44 AM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

Beryl single was released in January. I have to look because I have somewhere the exact first information about the album "Tracker"

"Tracker"
I remember first non-"official" information January 9, 2015. Official announcement January 16 with single Beryl. album then released on March 10th. I really hope that this time too it comes out in March. I don't think they don't exploit the media thing about the auction..

Tracker was officially announced September 16, 2014 on Mark's website long before its release.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on January 05, 2024, 10:55:28 AM
Does anyone remember when the first information about the Golden Heart or Tracker album appeared?

Beryl single was released in January. I have to look because I have somewhere the exact first information about the album "Tracker"

"Tracker"
I remember first non-"official" information January 9, 2015. Official announcement January 16 with single Beryl. album then released on March 10th. I really hope that this time too it comes out in March. I don't think they don't exploit the media thing about the auction..

Tracker was officially announced September 16, 2014 on Mark's website long before its release.

yes, that's true, but only the album title and the (rough) cover had been announced, not the release date. the announcement of the release date as written before in January 2015.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rail King on January 09, 2024, 02:03:24 PM
Why do we have to wait so long for the release date to be announced?

Because we are all slow learners.

You are right, but the waiting time is becoming unbearable:)

Don't forget that time will end all sorrow.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 09, 2024, 07:07:03 PM
Why do we have to wait so long for the release date to be announced?

Because we are all slow learners.

You are right, but the waiting time is becoming unbearable:)

Don't forget that time will end all sorrow.

A song can heal a weary heart

I hope it will be soon:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 10, 2024, 09:02:27 AM
Yes, it is taking way to long now, I thought the E.P. could have been announced or even released by now, as that is something smaller and more low key.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 10, 2024, 09:17:40 AM
Yes, it is taking way to long now, I thought the E.P. could have been announced or even released by now, as that is something smaller and more low key.

The fact that hasn't been announced late 2023, makes me think that it would be release in fall 2024...

Maybe they announce it in January for April hopefully  :hmm
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rail King on January 10, 2024, 09:18:24 AM
I'm pretty sure it's just marketing considerations. It's hard to sell something right after Christmas (and before it there's too much competition).

The one thing that worries me a bit is that since they had THAT much time, they might have tinkered with the songs too much. Something they've been occasionally guilty of in the past.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: hunter v2.0 on January 10, 2024, 09:28:29 AM
Since Mark is Guy's employer, maybe Guy is stalling things to stay busy? "Mark, let's try microphones 39 to 294 one more time, but this time with different cables." "I think we should re-string all the guitars. Just to be sure." "Mark, have you considered your own radio show?"

  :think  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 10, 2024, 11:16:57 AM
I'm pretty sure it's just marketing considerations. It's hard to sell something right after Christmas (and before it there's too much competition).

The one thing that worries me a bit is that since they had THAT much time, they might have tinkered with the songs too much. Something they've been occasionally guilty of in the past.

I guess they already had everything done and wrapped before December... whatever is delaying the release is just marketing of course, I don't think they had tinkered in excess as Guy was busy with mixes of other things (atmos, the live box), producing (the TCT project and other artists) and MK was also busy with the Brian Johnson tv show shootings...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rolleyway Man on January 10, 2024, 02:42:49 PM
My feeling is that we’ll see the album released before the EP, though hopefully both this year. The album was completed some time ago while the EP is a slightly more recent project, so assuming it is actually being released in physical formats the EP may still need more lead-in time before copies can be produced. In fact, the music might not even be finished yet.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Marnix on January 10, 2024, 09:55:36 PM
My feeling is that we’ll see the album released before the EP, though hopefully both this year. The album was completed some time ago while the EP is a slightly more recent project, so assuming it is actually being released in physical formats the EP may still need more lead-in time before copies can be produced. In fact, the music might not even be finished yet.

Or the EP will only be a digital release.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 10, 2024, 10:10:59 PM
My feeling is that we’ll see the album released before the EP, though hopefully both this year. The album was completed some time ago while the EP is a slightly more recent project, so assuming it is actually being released in physical formats the EP may still need more lead-in time before copies can be produced. In fact, the music might not even be finished yet.

Or the EP will only be a digital release.

I hope not.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Fletch on January 11, 2024, 08:15:44 AM
I'm pretty sure it's just marketing considerations. It's hard to sell something right after Christmas (and before it there's too much competition)

Or the EP will only be a digital release.

It's interesting that people 'buying' music (these days) is a serious consideration. Famously Spotify doesn't pay well for millions/billions of listens, but it also does 'special' deals, see Taylor & JRE.
At this point in time I doubt 'the best time of the year' is a consideration for MK physical music releases. Sure there may be pressure from a record company, but mostly people will stream the music, only the hardcore will buy an EP / CD. Please educate me.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 11, 2024, 08:17:30 AM
My feeling is that we’ll see the album released before the EP, though hopefully both this year. The album was completed some time ago while the EP is a slightly more recent project, so assuming it is actually being released in physical formats the EP may still need more lead-in time before copies can be produced. In fact, the music might not even be finished yet.

Or the EP will only be a digital release.

I hope not.

Looking at his last album releases, it is more likely that the EP will get a vinyl release only. In any case Vinyl will be there for sure.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 11, 2024, 08:18:56 AM
I'm pretty sure it's just marketing considerations. It's hard to sell something right after Christmas (and before it there's too much competition)

Or the EP will only be a digital release.

It's interesting that people 'buying' music (these days) is a serious consideration. Famously Spotify doesn't pay well for millions/billions of listens, but it also does 'special' deals, see Taylor & JRE.
At this point in time I doubt 'the best time of the year' is a consideration for MK physical music releases. Sure there may be pressure from a record company, but mostly people will stream the music, only the hardcore will buy an EP / CD. Please educate me.

The record company is who set release dates and formats, so if they give priority to release physical formats, believe that they are worth for them. They are not in the bussiness for the music, but for the money.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 11, 2024, 08:31:13 AM
I'm pretty sure it's just marketing considerations. It's hard to sell something right after Christmas (and before it there's too much competition)

Or the EP will only be a digital release.

It's interesting that people 'buying' music (these days) is a serious consideration. Famously Spotify doesn't pay well for millions/billions of listens, but it also does 'special' deals, see Taylor & JRE.
At this point in time I doubt 'the best time of the year' is a consideration for MK physical music releases. Sure there may be pressure from a record company, but mostly people will stream the music, only the hardcore will buy an EP / CD. Please educate me.

Hi Fletch, I guess for CD you are right but the vinyl Market "exploded" once more during the last two, three years and it is significant again. Of course not comparable with sales from 40 years ago but important nevertheless. And the Box sets are obviously doing very well, too. So yes, physical releases getting more importance as they used to have. And Spotify is evil.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 11, 2024, 08:45:12 AM
I still always buy the CD. I just assumed that with an EP it is something to can be done a lot quicker than an album, it doesn't really need as big a fanfare as an album, even if it is a release from Mark Knopfler. Looking at the Dire Straits ExtendedancEPlay release, it took about 3 months from recording to release, I know it was a different time, but, with things like a digital release, things really can move quicker if the drive is there.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 11, 2024, 08:59:51 AM
I still always buy the CD. I just assumed that with an EP it is something to can be done a lot quicker than an album, it doesn't really need as big a fanfare as an album, even if it is a release from Mark Knopfler. Looking at the Dire Straits ExtendedancEPlay release, it took about 3 months from recording to release, I know it was a different time, but, with things like a digital release, things really can move quicker if the drive is there.

I guess that they would first release the cd/lp and probably when this release it is announced, they would mention the EP release as a later release, so they could sell them separately at different times, which is strategically if you think about.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: ds1984 on January 11, 2024, 06:29:14 PM
I am waiting for the CD revival.
It will come one day.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 17, 2024, 01:26:11 PM
There must be someone important on the new MK album that Guy Fletcher mentions in the fourth part of the diary but he can't publish it before the album announcement.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 17, 2024, 01:36:50 PM
That's what I thought, I think it's David Gilmour :think
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 17, 2024, 01:39:48 PM
That's what I thought, I think it's David Gilmour :think

I didn't want to write this but I thought about it too :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 02:34:13 PM
Hahaha we wish but i don't think so
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 05:02:26 PM
GF

I have written the diary page and can share it with you when the album is announced. (any day now)

ANY DAY NOW!!!! Does that mean... soon?  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 17, 2024, 05:04:26 PM
GF

I have written the diary page and can share it with you when the album is announced. (any day now)

ANY DAY NOW!!!! Does that mean... soon?  ;D

Maybe one or two days... Wait for it
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 17, 2024, 05:10:06 PM
Looking forward to play the new MK single in the airplane this saturday... Or better.. Put it on at Christies  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: goon525 on January 17, 2024, 10:13:56 PM
GF

I have written the diary page and can share it with you when the album is announced. (any day now)

ANY DAY NOW!!!! Does that mean... soon?  ;D

No, this is Guy. It means probably this year.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on January 18, 2024, 10:07:34 AM
It is all happening close together, the auction, the TV show, and then the album, Mark should be getting lots of press in the next few weeks  I feel.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 18, 2024, 10:56:02 AM
It is all happening close together, the auction, the TV show, and then the album, Mark should be getting lots of press in the next few weeks  I feel.

I guess we will see something tomorrow in the press.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 18, 2024, 10:57:00 AM
It is all happening close together, the auction, the TV show, and then the album, Mark should be getting lots of press in the next few weeks  I feel.

I guess we will see something tomorrow in the press.

Do you know more? Tell us the album title at least  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 18, 2024, 10:57:56 AM
If there is indeed an announcement tomorrow the release could be in March, probably end of March (22/29 march?)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 18, 2024, 11:01:17 AM
If there is indeed an announcement tomorrow the release could be in March, probably end of March (22/29 march?)

I don't mean tomorrow there would be an anouncement of the record.

I mean that tomorrow probably we would see something in the press with MK talking.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 18, 2024, 11:27:05 AM
If there is indeed an announcement tomorrow the release could be in March, probably end of March (22/29 march?)

I don't mean tomorrow there would be an anouncement of the record.

I mean that tomorrow probably we would see something in the press with MK talking.

Wrong topic then  ;) I think tomorrow will be the album announcement... based on the words of GF, so probably false hopes
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 18, 2024, 11:29:26 AM
If there is indeed an announcement tomorrow the release could be in March, probably end of March (22/29 march?)

I don't mean tomorrow there would be an anouncement of the record.

I mean that tomorrow probably we would see something in the press with MK talking.

Wrong topic then  ;) I think tomorrow will be the album announcement... based on the words of GF, so probably false hopes

The thread says NEW FOR 2024, we are in 2024 and whatever is announced or presented, is NEW.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 18, 2024, 11:41:21 AM
I like the words: ANY DAY NOW :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 18, 2024, 12:28:43 PM
I like the words: ANY DAY NOW :)

That's why I said that tomorrow probably there would be something in the press, as tomorrow starts the exhibition of the guitars in Christie's and I'm sure that probably today MK would do a press conference to talk about it, and maybe he would mention other things, or is scheduled to announce both things, and today or tomorrow are "any day now"...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 18, 2024, 11:36:20 PM
https://en.mediamass.net/people/mark-knopfler/new-album.html

World tour in 2025??!!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: quizzaciously on January 18, 2024, 11:42:12 PM
https://en.mediamass.net/people/mark-knopfler/new-album.html

World tour in 2025??!!

Yeah... Also, three news from this source:

Mark Knopfler Named Sexiest Guitarist Alive

Death Hoax says “Mark Knopfler dies at 74”

Is Mark Knopfler secretly gay and hiding in the closet?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 18, 2024, 11:51:49 PM
https://en.mediamass.net/people/mark-knopfler/new-album.html

World tour in 2025??!!

Fake
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 19, 2024, 07:29:05 AM
Yesterday, during the Christie's auction presentation, MK didn't say a word about neither the TCT project or the new record.

So unless they release anything through the press directly or MKNEWS, today won't be any day now.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 19, 2024, 01:42:43 PM
Honestly, I didn't expect this. A guitar auction is a guitar auction, not a promotion for a new album or TCT. I think the second option is more possible.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: ds1984 on January 19, 2024, 08:23:20 PM
Every and now someone fall into parodic site "mediamass.net" trap  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Knopflerfan on January 20, 2024, 10:54:02 AM
https://en.mediamass.net/people/mark-knopfler/new-album.html

World tour in 2025??!!

Fake

Absolutely!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on January 20, 2024, 11:04:55 AM
Honestly, I didn't expect this. A guitar auction is a guitar auction, not a promotion for a new album or TCT. I think the second option is more possible.

I didn't watch the Christie's video again, but seems he's asked about the new record and he says something that could be interpreted like the record title...

Any chance is good if who does the questions does it properly lol
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 20, 2024, 11:12:30 AM
That's true. If the ending of Paul Sexton conversation with MK suggests the title of the album, I'm very happy because I like it very much:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 20, 2024, 11:13:52 AM
Honestly, I didn't expect this. A guitar auction is a guitar auction, not a promotion for a new album or TCT. I think the second option is more possible.

I didn't watch the Christie's video again, but seems he's asked about the new record and he says something that could be interpreted like the record title...

Any chance is good if who does the questions does it properly lol

"The Street goes on" I thought but that's just me. It would perfectly fit as a combination of the last Dire Straits Album "On Every Street" and the "Down The Road Wherever" spirit.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 20, 2024, 02:30:49 PM
Honestly, I didn't expect this. A guitar auction is a guitar auction, not a promotion for a new album or TCT. I think the second option is more possible.

I didn't watch the Christie's video again, but seems he's asked about the new record and he says something that could be interpreted like the record title...

Any chance is good if who does the questions does it properly lol

"The Street goes on" I thought but that's just me. It would perfectly fit as a combination of the last Dire Straits Album "On Every Street" and the "Down The Road Wherever" spirit.

LE

I like this idea:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Rail King on January 22, 2024, 10:48:25 AM
It does sound like an album title, but I don't think this was a hint to the album.

Also, the street/road metaphors are getting a bit old, aren't they?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 22, 2024, 10:52:49 AM
It does sound like an album title, but I don't think this was a hint to the album.

Also, the street/road metaphors are getting a bit old, aren't they?

indeed they are, same as Mark  :lol

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: goon525 on January 22, 2024, 01:04:17 PM
Was it ‘The Streets goes on’ or ‘The Straits goes on’?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 22, 2024, 08:17:52 PM
GF:

Paul Sexton, yes, he has been bestowed with its glory.

Lucky man:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dmg on January 22, 2024, 09:51:59 PM
GF:

Paul Sexton, yes, he has been bestowed with its glory.

Lucky man:)

Says the man who performed on and co-produced it! 😂
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: H97 on January 23, 2024, 08:02:33 PM
A teaser on the instagram, expecting album announcement and maybe a single on Friday? https://www.instagram.com/p/C2dAyZmrvgS/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/C2dAyZmrvgS/)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 08:08:52 PM
Oh yesssss!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jf9081 on January 23, 2024, 08:10:21 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on January 23, 2024, 08:14:49 PM
March 2024 release, May - July European Tour, September - October NA tour; 2025 EP Release.

Buckle up your seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen!  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 08:54:11 PM
March 2024 release, May - July European Tour, September - October NA tour; 2025 EP Release.

Buckle up your seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen!  ;D

Where does that come from? Is that confirmed?

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 08:55:55 PM
It reminded me of the Our Shangri-La session. :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: rmarques821 on January 23, 2024, 09:00:46 PM
March 2024 release, May - July European Tour, September - October NA tour; 2025 EP Release.

Buckle up your seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen!  ;D

Where does that come from? Is that confirmed?

LE
It's just a joke
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 09:02:37 PM
Maybe it's a fragment from a Henrik Hansen film :think
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 09:03:39 PM
March 2024 release, May - July European Tour, September - October NA tour; 2025 EP Release.

Buckle up your seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen!  ;D

Where does that come from? Is that confirmed?

LE
It's just a joke

Very funny. LMAO.  Not.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 09:07:02 PM
Did you really tought for 1 sec it was real LE?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Darling Pretty on January 23, 2024, 09:07:20 PM
First few seconds of the new single.
It stops just before the songs hits it's first notes.
TEASER.
Maybe yeah. Friday first single
End of March or April New Album
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: holaknopfler on January 23, 2024, 09:12:01 PM
First few seconds of the new single.
It stops just before the songs hits it's first notes.
TEASER.
Maybe yeah. Friday first single
End of March or April New Album

Exactly my thoughts. Great news folks
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 09:12:32 PM
Compliments for the MK team... its the first time they are dropping 'news' before some leaks are found and posted here...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 09:13:25 PM
First few seconds of the new single.
It stops just before the songs hits it's first notes.
TEASER.
Maybe yeah. Friday first single
End of March or April New Album

Exactly my thoughts. Great news folks

Long time no see. Greetings!

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Vesper on January 23, 2024, 09:14:09 PM
I'm pretty certain there will be some sort of announcement (probably friday).
This instagram/facebook clip.
In the Netherlands the official Universal Music Legends facebook page is building up a story about MK the last few days as well.
I also saw a, what appears to be brand new, picture of MK. From what seems to me a pretty decent source.
Most likely from a promotional shoot for the album (MK aka Tommy Shelby before the Tyne bridge).
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: holaknopfler on January 23, 2024, 09:15:13 PM
First few seconds of the new single.
It stops just before the songs hits it's first notes.
TEASER.
Maybe yeah. Friday first single
End of March or April New Album

Exactly my thoughts. Great news folks

Long time no see. Greetings!

LE

Greetings to you LE! Quite exciting all this news and developments. Can’t be away then  :D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Vesper on January 23, 2024, 09:17:26 PM
Compliments for the MK team... its the first time they are dropping 'news' before some leaks are found and posted here...

Exactly!
Seems there are some (maybe new) decent people around promoting the stuff and maintaining the socials these days.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 09:18:00 PM
Vesper, can you show this photo?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 09:20:38 PM
Do you think they really are playing a live rendition of one of the new songs? Usually this set up would mean another "faking" for a promotion video like they did with -Cleaning My Gun. Imagine if they really would have filmed a live situation recording for the new album! That would be something!

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: holaknopfler on January 23, 2024, 09:26:10 PM
Do you think they really are playing a live rendition of one of the new songs? Usually this set up would mean another "faking" for a promotion video like they did with -Cleaning My Gun. Imagine if they really would have filmed a live situation recording for the new album! That would be something!

LE

Would be something like one take radio sessions. In the studio but the songs played live in 1 take. I love that record. Would be something for MK to play live but control it. Eventually you are the decider in what goes out and what doesn’t. On a stage that’s completely different of course.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 09:43:02 PM
This one
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 09:46:01 PM
Do you think they really are playing a live rendition of one of the new songs? Usually this set up would mean another "faking" for a promotion video like they did with -Cleaning My Gun. Imagine if they really would have filmed a live situation recording for the new album! That would be something!

LE

Would be something like one take radio sessions. In the studio but the songs played live in 1 take. I love that record. Would be something for MK to play live but control it. Eventually you are the decider in what goes out and what doesn’t. On a stage that’s completely different of course.

Wow, totally forgot about that one. Had to check which version I had on CD. (Turns out the shorter one.) Pity, this one never got a Vinyl release. That would have been a nice idea (for RSD 2024)  ;D

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 09:50:34 PM
Thank you Dutchessy :)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Marnix on January 23, 2024, 09:52:08 PM
I'm pretty certain there will be some sort of announcement (probably friday).
This instagram/facebook clip.
In the Netherlands the official Universal Music Legends facebook page is building up a story about MK the last few days as well.
I also saw a, what appears to be brand new, picture of MK. From what seems to me a pretty decent source.
Most likely from a promotional shoot for the album (MK aka Tommy Shelby before the Tyne bridge).

They did the same with the announcement of the new album of The Rolling Stones so I think you are right
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 09:53:35 PM
Lovely, wonderful pic! Love it!  Not so grumpy ones as with the DTRW promo pictures.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Vesper on January 23, 2024, 10:15:49 PM
I'm no good with photoshop but someone should put Mark next to the Peaky Blinders ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Stanko on January 23, 2024, 10:17:30 PM
This one
Matchstick Man
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 10:39:24 PM
What appears to be the album title and cover is easy to find too...

Please enlighten us
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: H97 on January 23, 2024, 10:40:23 PM
Markknopfler.com is undergoing maintenance at the moment, the announcement might come sooner than we think!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Kris-b on January 23, 2024, 10:42:42 PM
This is really exciting!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: H97 on January 23, 2024, 10:45:34 PM
I knew something was up with the background and pink font of that sign up mailing list, amazing! Usually I don't care to much for MK's covers and titles, but this one I like a lot!

edit: was the post with the album cover and title deleted?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: H97 on January 23, 2024, 10:47:22 PM
https://shop.markknopfler.com/product/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-cd-us/ added to the site four days ago, a quick Google search will give you the cover instantly
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Kris-b on January 23, 2024, 10:49:19 PM
Site still under maintenance
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: iumk on January 23, 2024, 10:49:35 PM
I knew something was up with the background and pink font of that sign up mailing list, amazing! Usually I don't care to much for MK's covers and titles, but this one I like a lot!

edit: was the post with the album cover and title deleted?

Yes, sorry, I'd rather not post it so that somebody that does not want to see it actually does it unintentionally. As you said it is clear from the google search.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: H97 on January 23, 2024, 10:52:58 PM
Yes, sorry, I'd rather not post it so that somebody that does not want to see it actually does it unintentionally. As you said it is clear from the google search.

Good call. That Google search also gives you the first six track titles of the album!

to avoid spoilers, select 1. Two Pairs Of Hands · 2. Ahead Of The Game · 3. Smart Money · 4. Scavengers Yard · 5. Black Tie Jobs · 6. Tunnel 13 until here to read!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 11:03:47 PM
I have a very good and strong feeling about this release! It's unbelievable how MK can transport "his" sujet through his titles alone. Always love the moment when they pop up for the first time. These sound really great. (But on the other hand, Trapper Man also sounded good as a title and was the worst song he ever recorded - by far!  :lol)

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 11:10:55 PM
Ahead of the game... thats the reference with the MK.com post tonight. That should be the new single then?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 11:11:35 PM
Song No. 6 apparently about the last train robbery in Oregon in 1923. I feel a historic piece coming up like 5.15 am or Madame Geneva or even Telegraph Road... my goosebumps get goosebumps...

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: quizzaciously on January 23, 2024, 11:11:50 PM
I have a very good and strong feeling about this release! It's unbelievable how MK can transport "his" sujet through his titles alone. Always love the moment when they pop up for the first time. These sound really great. (But on the other hand, Trapper Man also sounded good as a title and was the worst song he ever recorded - by far!  :lol)

LE

I can't believe I'm saying it but I love the cover of this album. Finally a good one, except it indeed triggers my inner perfectionist by being not symmetrical. I mean come on, Mark, you had 6 years to do this, man! And it seems like finally a live from British Grove is incoming. It can't be just mimicking!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 11:12:03 PM
Markknopfler.com is undergoing maintenance at the moment, the announcement might come sooner than we think!

I think so too. And these beautiful mountains:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 11:12:24 PM
6 tracks could also be the EP  ;)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 11:15:35 PM
Both your last posts sound true. I haven't found the source and don't know how it's presented so I cannot comment too much on it. But indeed why should they only post six songs and not all at once, if.

Or maybe each track is about 15 minutes long and that's what we get.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 11:15:46 PM
Where are these titles?
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: quizzaciously on January 23, 2024, 11:17:02 PM
6 tracks could also be the EP  ;)

Makes sense... And also makes sense to record it live in the studio (as was the case with One Take Radio Sessions). Also makes sense to release EP before the album in my opinion. I mean if he will release it anyway, when do you think is a better time to do it? I think before the album is a better time.

Another strange thing: the cover's filename spells the album title like ABC, and the actual album order is actually ACB. Very strange...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Love Expresso on January 23, 2024, 11:18:21 PM
Where are these titles?

In post #730 there are in the last line in white so that you cannot see it. If you mark them (as in copy & paste) you will be able to read them. It is done to avoid spoilers for others. So please better not mention the titles.

LE
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 11:23:36 PM
Where are these titles?

In post #730 there are in the last line in white so that you cannot see it. If you mark them (as in copy & paste) you will be able to read them. It is done to avoid spoilers for others. So please better not mention the titles.

LE

I have:) Of course. Thank you LE:)
I'm excited:)
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on January 23, 2024, 11:26:57 PM
Plus: Watch Me Gone
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Dutchessy on January 23, 2024, 11:35:22 PM
Should we wait with posting the cover? Its news after all...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: border_reiver on January 23, 2024, 11:35:29 PM
Finally!!!!!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: border_reiver on January 23, 2024, 11:38:42 PM
Should we wait with posting the cover? Its news after all...

Separate spoiler thread created.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: border_reiver on January 24, 2024, 12:13:14 AM
This record has high hopes written all over it. Please let it be epic, please...  ;D
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: KnopfleRick on January 24, 2024, 10:05:47 AM
I love the cover so much! What a wonderful picture. My heart is beating of excitement.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: primi on January 25, 2024, 12:54:25 PM
Some songs on CD only.
Some songs on vinyl only.
Some songs on BlueRay only.
Good thing there's not a cassete bonus track also. Although at this point I wouldn't really be surprised anymore.

What are they smoking? Can I just have the music, please? All of it? Thanks!

I'm not investing in more useless hardware just to play a few songs. If I can't have it all on CD then privateering I will go!
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: dustyvalentino on January 25, 2024, 02:23:16 PM
Some songs on CD only.
Some songs on vinyl only.
Some songs on BlueRay only.
Good thing there's not a cassete bonus track also. Although at this point I wouldn't really be surprised anymore.

What are they smoking? Can I just have the music, please? All of it? Thanks!

I'm not investing in more useless hardware just to play a few songs. If I can't have it all on CD then privateering I will go!

I'm not defending the practice but what you have stated.

Some songs are only available on vinyl (they may include a digital download with the box, they did last time).

All of the rest of the songs are available on CD for pretty cheap.

Nobody should be surprised at there being box exclusive tracks, they've been releasing like this for more than a decade.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Shangri-La on January 25, 2024, 07:55:40 PM
It's the same practice since 1996 with several bonus each time.
Youtube will be your friend.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on February 13, 2024, 05:55:43 PM
Don't you think it's a little weird, commercially talking, to announce the new MK record and the TCT single, and release both, so close to each other?

In the two radio interviews he did, the DJ was talking about the new MK single and neither were talking about "ahead of the game" but about "going home", MK even had to remark to Ken Bruce that he would be releasing a new record in April, the name of it and his real new single...

Not only that but also Guy said today (take it as usual with a pinch of salt) that on RSD there might be something release related to MK or DS, which is April 20th. If that's true that would be a lot of stuff at the same time, weird specially as it's been a lot of time waiting...
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: Robson on February 13, 2024, 06:52:15 PM
I was thinking about that too. March 15 and April 12. A very short time frame but a lot of joy:)

I think they decide what they will talk about before the conversation. Maybe Mark asks not to ask about the new album yet.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 14, 2024, 09:20:54 AM
Well, Guy has been saying for a while that there is lots if music coming up, this now proves it. I am not worried, if it gets Mark and his music more coverage then I'm all for it, also, TCT have there own release strategy I guess.
Title: Re: New for 2024
Post by: jbaent on February 14, 2024, 11:42:34 AM
Well, Guy has been saying for a while that there is lots if music coming up, this now proves it. I am not worried, if it gets Mark and his music more coverage then I'm all for it, also, TCT have there own release strategy I guess.

I'm not quite sure about from where the TCT thing comes, if it was MK idea to do something for the trust, so it's his initiative and probably his strategy, or if it was the trust who asked MK to do something so everything comes and depends from the TCT...