A Mark In Time
General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Wario on January 14, 2024, 04:09:53 AM
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
They kept them to release once Mark has passed away :think
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
They kept them to release once Mark has passed away :think
I don't want to believe they wait for that... I really hope for something new in video for the next few years. As I said, there is a lot of material that is probably gathering dust on some shelf, waiting to be released. Hopefully they are already working on something.
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
It varies...
Madrid 2001 was shelved because apparently the audience was so loud that the sound of people screaming was very high captured by any mic on stage recording so they couldn't use the sound. They actually recorded three more shows just in audio (Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow) just to use the audio to solve that problem, but they didn't anything in the end.
BBC 2013 was shelved as MK had a lot of problems with guitar tunning acording people who attended the show, they had to stop many times and start again, so probably MK didn't like how everything came and asked to shelve it.
Montreux 2010 is a private recording that the person who runs the festival keep for him, I guess that he decides to release what he think it worths, and by any reason MK show isn't one of those.
Copenhaguen 2015, together with Barcelona 2015 and other NA gigs during that tour were recorded by Henrik Hansen to use some parts in a documentary that has never seen the light of day, apparently they are still recording things for that documentary so there is always hope that it could see the light of day one of these days...
You forget about London, Shepherd Bush Empire 2002 (MK and friends gig), they recorded in audio and video one show in full. Apparently that was made by the record company to be used in the RPD record promotion, actually they released in youtube, as far as I recall, videos of Why Aye Man and Quality Show of that recording, but that was all.
Nowadays I don't think any video would be released as sales of Dvd or Bluray seems not too much for the record companies to bother, at least with some artists.
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If they managed to solve the loud noise on the Beatles at The Hollywood Bowl concert release, surely the Madrid show could be solved.
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If they managed to solve the loud noise on the Beatles at The Hollywood Bowl concert release, surely the Madrid show could be solved.
Yes, I'm sure it can be solved, actually I'm sure that even most of us with just our home computer would do it.
The problem is that they don't want to do it, probably they think it doesn't worth the trouble.
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Still they could release the audio from the Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow shows.
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Still they could release the audio from the Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow shows.
And the Shepherd Bush 2002
And the not already released shows from 2005
And the whole 2006 and 2008 tours
And the NA part of the 2010 tour.
A lot of recorded and unreleased stuff in audio.
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
It varies...
Madrid 2001 was shelved because apparently the audience was so loud that the sound of people screaming was very high captured by any mic on stage recording so they couldn't use the sound. They actually recorded three more shows just in audio (Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow) just to use the audio to solve that problem, but they didn't anything in the end.
BBC 2013 was shelved as MK had a lot of problems with guitar tunning acording people who attended the show, they had to stop many times and start again, so probably MK didn't like how everything came and asked to shelve it.
Montreux 2010 is a private recording that the person who runs the festival keep for him, I guess that he decides to release what he think it worths, and by any reason MK show isn't one of those.
Copenhaguen 2015, together with Barcelona 2015 and other NA gigs during that tour were recorded by Henrik Hansen to use some parts in a documentary that has never seen the light of day, apparently they are still recording things for that documentary so there is always hope that it could see the light of day one of these days...
You forget about London, Shepherd Bush Empire 2002 (MK and friends gig), they recorded in audio and video one show in full. Apparently that was made by the record company to be used in the RPD record promotion, actually they released in youtube, as far as I recall, videos of Why Aye Man and Quality Show of that recording, but that was all.
Nowadays I don't think any video would be released as sales of Dvd or Bluray seems not too much for the record companies to bother, at least with some artists.
First of all, do you know if another show from 2013 or one from 2019 was recorded on video? Well, in any case, I get the impression that they think (perhaps Mark himself) that those performances are not up to par with his work in other times. If they released ANIL, RLRR and especially those promotional performances from 2007 (which I still like but they don't compare to his usual concerts), I don't see why (with a correct sound balance and good camera direction) it couldn't be released. Or else Mark is saving everything so as not to distract expectations with his next album...
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Still they could release the audio from the Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow shows.
And the Shepherd Bush 2002
And the not already released shows from 2005
And the whole 2006 and 2008 tours
And the NA part of the 2010 tour.
A lot of recorded and unreleased stuff in audio.
Totally, I am especially interested in the KTGC tour of 2008. I hope the recordings have a good balance like those of the SL Tour (2005) and GL Tour (2010), since it is the intermediate period. Also because of the setlist of those shows (Cannibals as the opener, fresh HFB, 2007-style PFP, etc). I have a feeling that we will hear it soon and officially, leaving aside the scandal with the IEMs and the guy from London.
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
It varies...
Madrid 2001 was shelved because apparently the audience was so loud that the sound of people screaming was very high captured by any mic on stage recording so they couldn't use the sound. They actually recorded three more shows just in audio (Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow) just to use the audio to solve that problem, but they didn't anything in the end.
BBC 2013 was shelved as MK had a lot of problems with guitar tunning acording people who attended the show, they had to stop many times and start again, so probably MK didn't like how everything came and asked to shelve it.
Montreux 2010 is a private recording that the person who runs the festival keep for him, I guess that he decides to release what he think it worths, and by any reason MK show isn't one of those.
Copenhaguen 2015, together with Barcelona 2015 and other NA gigs during that tour were recorded by Henrik Hansen to use some parts in a documentary that has never seen the light of day, apparently they are still recording things for that documentary so there is always hope that it could see the light of day one of these days...
You forget about London, Shepherd Bush Empire 2002 (MK and friends gig), they recorded in audio and video one show in full. Apparently that was made by the record company to be used in the RPD record promotion, actually they released in youtube, as far as I recall, videos of Why Aye Man and Quality Show of that recording, but that was all.
Nowadays I don't think any video would be released as sales of Dvd or Bluray seems not too much for the record companies to bother, at least with some artists.
First of all, do you know if another show from 2013 or one from 2019 was recorded on video? Well, in any case, I get the impression that they think (perhaps Mark himself) that those performances are not up to par with his work in other times. If they released ANIL, RLRR and especially those promotional performances from 2007 (which I still like but they don't compare to his usual concerts), I don't see why (with a correct sound balance and good camera direction) it couldn't be released. Or else Mark is saving everything so as not to distract expectations with his next album...
As far as I know, they didn't recorded anuthing else from 2013, unless they played the Montreux festival, which I can't remember, but that is not recorded by them but by the festival.
I think the Lisbon 2013 was recorded, at least some songs for the MK documentary "A life in songs", but I'm not sure if they recorded the concert as the only parts shown in that documentary comes from the soundchecks.
Regarding 2019, it is known that they bought the video recording the O2 Arena did for the screens during that concert. There is a chance that they did the same with the 2015 gig at the same venue, but there is no confirmation of that.
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
It varies...
Madrid 2001 was shelved because apparently the audience was so loud that the sound of people screaming was very high captured by any mic on stage recording so they couldn't use the sound.
Oh no, what a terrible thing. For a LIVE experience....!
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
It varies...
Madrid 2001 was shelved because apparently the audience was so loud that the sound of people screaming was very high captured by any mic on stage recording so they couldn't use the sound.
Oh no, what a terrible thing. For a LIVE experience....!
I was there. It wasn't only that the audience was very very loud, is also that they put wood chairs and everyone leave them and stayed on their feet for the whole show, so as the bullring arena was configurated with chairs, visually it looked full just close to the stage and empty more than half of the arena...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR3CRurzJyw
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
It varies...
Madrid 2001 was shelved because apparently the audience was so loud that the sound of people screaming was very high captured by any mic on stage recording so they couldn't use the sound. They actually recorded three more shows just in audio (Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow) just to use the audio to solve that problem, but they didn't anything in the end.
BBC 2013 was shelved as MK had a lot of problems with guitar tunning acording people who attended the show, they had to stop many times and start again, so probably MK didn't like how everything came and asked to shelve it.
Montreux 2010 is a private recording that the person who runs the festival keep for him, I guess that he decides to release what he think it worths, and by any reason MK show isn't one of those.
Copenhaguen 2015, together with Barcelona 2015 and other NA gigs during that tour were recorded by Henrik Hansen to use some parts in a documentary that has never seen the light of day, apparently they are still recording things for that documentary so there is always hope that it could see the light of day one of these days...
You forget about London, Shepherd Bush Empire 2002 (MK and friends gig), they recorded in audio and video one show in full. Apparently that was made by the record company to be used in the RPD record promotion, actually they released in youtube, as far as I recall, videos of Why Aye Man and Quality Show of that recording, but that was all.
Nowadays I don't think any video would be released as sales of Dvd or Bluray seems not too much for the record companies to bother, at least with some artists.
First of all, do you know if another show from 2013 or one from 2019 was recorded on video? Well, in any case, I get the impression that they think (perhaps Mark himself) that those performances are not up to par with his work in other times. If they released ANIL, RLRR and especially those promotional performances from 2007 (which I still like but they don't compare to his usual concerts), I don't see why (with a correct sound balance and good camera direction) it couldn't be released. Or else Mark is saving everything so as not to distract expectations with his next album...
As far as I know, they didn't recorded anuthing else from 2013, unless they played the Montreux festival, which I can't remember, but that is not recorded by them but by the festival.
I think the Lisbon 2013 was recorded, at least some songs for the MK documentary "A life in songs", but I'm not sure if they recorded the concert as the only parts shown in that documentary comes from the soundchecks.
Regarding 2019, it is known that they bought the video recording the O2 Arena did for the screens during that concert. There is a chance that they did the same with the 2015 gig at the same venue, but there is no confirmation of that.
I've seen that they used clips from the O2 for the interview that aired in 2019 before the tour ended. I also learned that there were several technical problems in the middle of the show... I hope they have recorded other concerts and these recordings can be used as an official release and not just in small fragments. I also think Guy mentioned it. Could it be that Antwerp was also recorded?
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I'm really having fun reading a lot of information since I came onto the forum (which I would never have known about otherwise) and was reading about the "London Guy" who recorded Mark's IEM at the RAH and the whole scandal arose. Also about the (non) video releases of Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010, BBC 2013 and Copenhagen 2015 as far as I know. Why do you think none of them were released until today?
It varies...
Madrid 2001 was shelved because apparently the audience was so loud that the sound of people screaming was very high captured by any mic on stage recording so they couldn't use the sound.
Oh no, what a terrible thing. For a LIVE experience....!
I was there. It wasn't only that the audience was very very loud, is also that they put wood chairs and everyone leave them and stayed on their feet for the whole show, so as the bullring arena was configurated with chairs, visually it looked full just close to the stage and empty more than half of the arena...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR3CRurzJyw
Man I love how good the STP tour was!
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I tried to send Guy a question/suggestion on his forum and couldn't. Seeing as the days of touring are over and probably any concert is far from happening at the moment (hopefully that will change), I was going to suggest the idea of working on some official live material:
1. On video, some DVD or Blu-Ray of the concerts that have been recorded in good quality.
2. If not that, it can also be a release in physical formats (Vinyl or CD) of a particularly good concert from a tour (the latter has the best sound technology), using the soundboard recordings and remixing them to have a sound optimum. Just ideas.
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It's not up to Guy
It's the record company who has to want to release that stuff, and then Guy work on it
You better write a letter to the record company!
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It's not up to Guy
It's the record company who has to want to release that stuff, and then Guy work on it
You better write a letter to the record company!
I totally know that it doesn't depend on Guy, (although he has been a lot of help on the DS and MK projects) but I can't think of anyone else who to give those suggestions to because I don't have contact with the record company nor do I think they will read my message if I will send it to them. The final decision is up to Mark, anyway. It would just seem like a good move to me, since it's been so long without official live material (released properly by a record label like RLRR) that we fans would buy what they put out, and with the material they have, they could do something really good.