DS Reunion rumors

[herlock]

According to Guy, Mark was much more of a "tyran" during DS times than now; he said he welcomes much more the band input now then before. Guy said litterally, talking about DS: "he had full control over the band".
Hard to imagine DS as en entity while there was so much turnover ! they only ones who stayed from beginning to end were Mark and John...

Everybody says Roger is an asshole. To me, he is a musical genius. The name "Pink Floyd" would mean *nothing* today, had Roger not been there. And he is not that bad a guy. He had a point. Dave had not composed a song in 5 years. Roger is abrupt, but honnest. He said he could not pretend to be socialist anymore once he became rich. He acknowledged he had been fullish and negative with Dave. He spat on an idiot fan 33 years ago, what's the big deal ? he did not kill anybody... Yes he has his faults, he uses playback tapes and stuff, but I still love him (And I love Dave too, their shows are different but equally good). I can agree with you that it is strange that he would go again and played in stadiums after saying -like Mark- that stadium rock was unappropriate, especially for "The Wall".
Yes, he could never replace Dave, because Dave has a unique sound. I'm not convinced JI has a unique sound that Mark cannot replace...
Mark is Roger and Dave in one person: Dave's guitar skills, and Roger's song writer skills
I still dont' know what John and Alan would have that is so special that Mark cannot recreate their sound with other musicians. Anyway, interesting discussion, I respect your opinions




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[herlock]

Partly wrong, Mark did perform once with Alan "Wild Theme" a few years ago (let say within the last 5 - or 10- years) in Newcastle. And they also did a masterclass in the US but this is older.

Alan in an interview says that the music that Mark plays now is not his cup of tea. Already at the time of OES, Alan did show some sign of dissatisfaction as he does not stick that much with country music style.

What surprise me is that Alan and Guy seemed to be good surfing friends but they finally lost touch.

Thanks for this very interesting info, I did not know that ! So what's Alan cup of tea music ? pure rock'and roll ? It's true I really like him in the fast piano solos, TR and TOL, he was great. But I'm sure Matt could do the same...

[Pottel]

roger may have realised that he is not a socialist anymore due to his gazillions of millions, but Dave keeps donating millions, without being a millionaire.
i prefer Dave by far, roger is a great arranger/director of music, but the real musical genius to me is Dave.

[herlock]

Don't get me wrong, I love Dave too, I'm adicted to his lovely "Live in Gdansk". He is a fantastic musician and person.
I just say I hate to choose. Both were necessary for Pink Floyd to work.
Dave was the sound.
But Roger was the soul.
Without Roger, no DSOTM. no Animals. no The Wall.
The man derserves respect. Really.
One of the best moments in musical history was the (brief, alas) PF reunion for Live 8. I have this on DVD. Gorgeous.
One of my fantasises would be to see Mark and Dave play each other's songs on guitar and tease each other on stage.
And Mark and Roger co-writing songs.
Love them all... in the imperfections. They are unperfect human beings. That's make them so great.
 

[ds1984]

According to Guy, Mark was much more of a "tyran" during DS times than now; he said he welcomes much more the band input now then before. Guy said litterally, talking about DS: "he had full control over the band".
Hard to imagine DS as en entity while there was so much turnover ! they only ones who stayed from beginning to end were Mark and John...

For me in the band history there are 2 area : before and after 1980

Before 1980, DS was a success band like it could have been for many others, doing a few good albums before becoming quite repetitive.

But hen came MM : turning point, change of style and start of the great waltz of musicians. But when you listen to the 1980 tour you hear that Alan contribution is everywhere. And it is easy to guess that he contributed to some arrangments but got no credit for them. This core trio is what made DS so special to me.

I still dont' know what John and Alan would have that is so special that Mark cannot recreate their sound with other musicians. Anyway, interesting discussion, I respect your opinions

They have a personal style - simple as this. That does not imply that no one else can take the seat and have good result but just that they produce something unique that nobody else can replicate. I got the revelation in 2002, the second John was on stage and that I heard that "doum doum doum" sound again - nobody else sound like that, yet very basic, but fucking effective.

Just that Mark needed something else that these musicians could not give him. Finding the right musicians he needed had not been a simple task so this is the other side of why DS disbanded. Mark needed some Tony Levin skilled musicians and John is everything but a Tony Levin.

[scupperman]

As they say don't shoot the messenger.

I've never been one to really pine for a DS reunion, I just think it's too hard to recreate the essence or even harder to pick up and create something new. But would I go see them? I don't think there's anybody on this forum who wouldn't, even those of us who say "move on", I've moved on but I'm not crazy.

It's odd this rumor hasn't been picked elsewhere, this DJ and station are very reliable and I don't think she would have said it without a good source.

[Mossguitar]

According to Guy, Mark was much more of a "tyran" during DS times than now; he said he welcomes much more the band input now then before. Guy said litterally, talking about DS: "he had full control over the band".
Hard to imagine DS as en entity while there was so much turnover ! they only ones who stayed from beginning to end were Mark and John...

For me in the band history there are 2 area : before and after 1980

Before 1980, DS was a success band like it could have been for many others, doing a few good albums before becoming quite repetitive.

But hen came MM : turning point, change of style and start of the great waltz of musicians. But when you listen to the 1980 tour you hear that Alan contribution is everywhere. And it is easy to guess that he contributed to some arrangments but got no credit for them. This core trio is what made DS so special to me.

I still dont' know what John and Alan would have that is so special that Mark cannot recreate their sound with other musicians. Anyway, interesting discussion, I respect your opinions

They have a personal style - simple as this. That does not imply that no one else can take the seat and have good result but just that they produce something unique that nobody else can replicate. I got the revelation in 2002, the second John was on stage and that I heard that "doum doum doum" sound again - nobody else sound like that, yet very basic, but fucking effective.

Just that Mark needed something else that these musicians could not give him. Finding the right musicians he needed had not been a simple task so this is the other side of why DS disbanded. Mark needed some Tony Levin skilled musicians and John is everything but a Tony Levin.

Very vell put! Sums it all up

[dustyvalentino]

It will never happen.

And yes, Alan played Wild Theme with MK at the launch of Alan Shearer's bar in Newcastle if memory serves, also here

 

[Justme]

and john was at fridays' show in the RAH, and Chris at thursdays'
and let us not mnention that other founder of the Dire straits here shall we... 

So you're indicating that David Knopfler was at one of the RAH shows? Maybe he was to be seen within the fanclub presale queue waiting for his ticket pick-up.
 

[Justme]

Everything DS would have to offer today, you already have it in the MK shows.

'nuff said.

I tend to listen to both - DS and MK flying solo - a lot. Sometimes I do prefer the very early and raw stuff from 1978-1979 for some days and then I crawl through his works until Get Lucky is playing, guess it depends a lot on my mood.  Somehow it never gets boring as there is so much variety and development when listening to his catalogue.

MK does six shows at the RAH for charities anyway, so there's no need to dig the old brand name out again?

Now I'm wondering if there'll be some charity shows in 2011, after the recording of the follow-up to Get Lucky? Wouldn't that be great, he could do another six nights at the RAH out of sequence?! 

 

[Pottel]

no justme, i said that in relation to an earlier post.

[Justme]

Yes, I was only kidding. 

[Rollergirl]

yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnn

[ds1984]

I must confess that after reading Guy entry about the Bercy gig where he was refering to the DS days playing there I did make the strange dream that Mark choosed this venue to establish a very special DS reunion residency

Then I woke up and had to go to work...

[Al]

I hope there will be no reunion. A few years ago my favorite 80's band (it starts with "po" & ends with "lice") finished their reunion tour in NYC, & successfully turned it into a CABARET. I lost all remaining respect to the members of that band (that said, Andy is a very good fotographer .