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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2012, 02:21:00 PM »
Yes, Zabrisie Point is rubbish.  But well shot!  Blow Up is brilliant;  I love those "swinging London" films, but it was much more than that.  The whole premise of the film was explained by the tennis scene at the end which puzzled me the first time I saw it.  Great stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2012, 03:28:56 PM »
I have seen blow up only one time, I have to watch it again to understand the whole thing.
I mainly remember the yardbirds scene with Beck breaking his guitar !

I've seen Zabriskie point too, but it was mainly for the music.

Antonioni is not among my fav directors.
My top 5 would be : Leone, Kubrick, Hicthcock, Welles, Chaplin, and just after : Eastwood, Hawks, Ford, Corneau
well, just one french ! I'm not chauvinist !  ;D

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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2012, 04:42:15 PM »
I have seen blow up only one time, I have to watch it again to understand the whole thing.
I mainly remember the yardbirds scene with Beck breaking his guitar !

I've seen Zabriskie point too, but it was mainly for the music.

Antonioni is not among my fav directors.
My top 5 would be : Leone, Kubrick, Hicthcock, Welles, Chaplin, and just after : Eastwood, Hawks, Ford, Corneau
well, just one french ! I'm not chauvinist !  ;D

Oh, I wouldn't really rate Antonioni as one of my favourites.  He is erratic in his work imo. ;D  He directs through the camera lens though so his pictures are always well shot even when they are rubbish like Zabriskie Point.  Hitch is my favourite. 

I love the French new wave though and where would cinema be without France and the Lumiere brothers as well as la nouvelle vague.  Louis Malle, Jean Luc Goddard and Francois Truffaut are all geniuses.  My favourites are (please forgive possible spelling errors :think):  Le Boucher, Day For Night, Ascenseur pour l'echafaud, A Bout de Souffle, Fahrenheit 451... 
« Last Edit: December 27, 2012, 04:45:03 PM by dmg »
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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2012, 05:46:00 PM »

As for the book thing, it would be great if I had the chance and money to publish one book with my selection of photos, but I know from experience (I have been working in bookshops and publishing houses since 1993)  that books from unknown photographers very rarely cover their expenses with adequate sales. That said, a book about Athens was published in 2004 from teNeues, in Germany.
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I found it:
http://www.amazon.de/Athens-Photopocket-Vassilis-Gonis/dp/3823845799/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356626685&sr=1-2
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2012, 05:57:32 PM »
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I love the French new wave though and where would cinema be without France and the Lumiere brothers

yes, right, and I live in Lyon just near the Lumiere Brothers house, 2 streets from the "rue du 1er film" (1st movie street), so I totally agree  :)


as for the french new wave, I love it too, my favs are : a bout de souffle, Pierrot le fou,(I like Godard but not all his movies), les 400 coups, jules et jim

another fav french director is Chabrol : very Hitch influenced !

from Truffaut, I love la nuit am

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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2012, 06:00:13 PM »
While talking directors/cinematographers, how could I forget the great Nicholas Roeg.  Walkabout, Performance, Don't Look Now...
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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2012, 06:03:19 PM »
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I love the French new wave though and where would cinema be without France and the Lumiere brothers

yes, right, and I live in Lyon just near the Lumiere Brothers house, 2 streets from the "rue du 1er film" (1st movie street), so I totally agree  :)


as for the french new wave, I love it too, my favs are : a bout de souffle, Pierrot le fou,(I like Godard but not all his movies), les 400 coups, jules et jim

another fav french director is Chabrol : very Hitch influenced !

from Truffaut, I love la nuit am
"...and I blew up the radio in pretty short order."

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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2012, 12:10:37 AM »

I found it:
http://www.amazon.de/Athens-Photopocket-Vassilis-Gonis/dp/3823845799/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356626685&sr=1-2
great !

You found it indeed!

Your view of the world is quite different from mine and thus captivating. But the subjects you chose are subjects I like to work as well! The cemetery, the window reflections, the gardens, etc!

The issue you mention about the presence of people (and their faces) in the photos is common for every major country in the world, that tries to protect the human rights. But these human privacy laws are badly written and they deprive photographers  and eventually the world from the good old  human documentary photo made famous by the likes of Bresson, Capa, Eugene Smith etc. And it is pretty weird, because life has never been less private than today. We are monitored all the time and anyway our lives are less exiting than ever due to the virtual life and relations through a computer. See the facebook case I mentioned, which can sell your private information, name and preferences, and photos without telling you! It is actually a passing of information to big companies and governments. See the thousands of cameras in the streets and in public places.   And the only other exception is for journalists, that most of them have become pawns in the hands of the big newspaper owners and their big businesses. I don't know for a fact, what is going on outside Greece, but here every major business man with investments in construction, insurance and other big money businesses, always buy a TV station, a radio station and a couple of newspapers in order to influence the public and pressure the government.

  It may sound like an excuse for my using these photos, but I know the ethical dilemmas and understand the risk. I always respect people's privacy. I never make public, photos of people in strange or diminishing situations, at least not without their consent (which is very tricky, because you have to ask their permission before you take the photo and this 99% of the times ruins the original mood. ) But a photo of a person for me, has to do with a reflection of the human condition. The more personal it is,  the more universal it can become. And the secret is hidden not in the details or the clarity of the photo, but in the symbolic and aesthetic magnitude encoded in the photo by the choices a photographer makes during the shooting and later on the choosing and post production. So I really find peculiar that these laws have become so strict for the every day photographer, who is in fact the only reliable recorder of the history of man. 
I like portraits very much and I always try to convince people to pose for me. It is hard sometimes, not because they disagree, but because the easiness of having a camera and taking a photo, has ruined the "mythical" status of a photographer. So they don't focus, they are hasty and that shows in the photos.
But this is another story! I will keep looking at your photos. I leave some comments, always to the ones that draw my attention! I will try to write you about the general feeling I got from them, but probably in the new year!
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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2012, 01:46:21 PM »
vgonis, you are right, people use facebook and inform the world, what they do when and how...and pretend to have problems with a simple photo, that may be published or may be shown in an exhibition...
Asking for the permission before taking the photo spoils everything, so I use to ask afterwards. Or I ask friends from my photo-club, they know, what is important.
I love Bresson, his photos show so much of the athmosphere and history, although I was a little disappointed when my photography-teacher (only evening-class for hobby-photographers) told me, that "the kiss / Cafe paris" was staged with actors ;-) My favourite photographer is Joel Meyerowitz, especially I love his Cape-Cod-photos. They remind me  of the painter Hopper.



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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2012, 02:53:39 PM »
So photos passed down the years, turn up to be staged. Even though my initial reaction was the same as yours,  I, now,  find them even more compelling! A man was able to stage an absolutely faboulus scene that looks absolutely natural! Robert Doisneau's kiss is just extrodinary and I wish I have taken that photo. Staging it would give me extra pleasure! If I remember correctly the first attempt to find the original couple had produced at least three couples claiming to be the the one! Apart from it being totaly hilarious, it might also prove that Doisneau had made more efforts than this successful one.
I guess it has to do with expectations, more than anything else. I mean street photography is limited to a treasure hunt if all we are looking for are unique - blink of an eye moments. The photographer with the best equipment, most time and better reflexes will be able to capture it. But Bresson and the other photographers of the era, were more than that. You can see that their photos even though they have the element of the decisive moment, are in reality the best moments of non-significant events. A kiss after all is not that significant unless you give it and receive it. A man jumbing over water  is only interesting aesthetically. (By the way it is one of the very few photos Bresson had to crop!)
 http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/tag/henri-cartier-bresson/
Of course all these photographers were photo joournalists as well and they had to shoot news for a living, so that explains the rest of the photos that contian news material.   
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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2012, 05:51:25 PM »
Bresson was famous for using a Leica rangefinder and 50mm lens almost exclusively throughout his career apparently:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/cartier-bresson.htm
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2012, 08:04:44 PM »
dmg that was fun to read, thank you! Of course I agree, but I wouldn't just buy a Leica for it's resale price! And the digital expensive cameras are for people that can actually afford them. These people are usually photojournalists that want a reliable body that can send their photos 10000 miles away to their newspaper ASAP, or people who want to show off their latest camera. Unfortunately I can't say I belong in either group. That is why I have been using my Canon EOS 620, until it broke down completely. I even tried to find another one, but I received a body with electrical troubles and I desided it was time to move on. I already have 3 Nikkoormat bodies (I broke one and I found another one for 75 Euros) and a wide variety of lenses for them. I feel fantastic using them, even though their meter is rather unstable and not reliable. And yes the best way to learn framing is by using a simple lense. %0mm is a fine beginners choice. Magnum photographers use 24, 28, 35 and 50.
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2012, 09:22:10 PM »
The resale value is quite important because it allows you to sell on lenses/bodies you no longer want in order to upgrade or if you simply need the money or lose interest, then you get your money back on them.  That has allowed me to try different lenses over the years and find ones that I like the rendering of best.

Of course there is nothing like using a Leica rangefinder and the compact size of the camera and lenses combined with the silent cloth shutter they have makes them ideal, unobtrusive street cameras.

Of course with a rangefinder, one isn't looking through the lens a-la SLR. Instead the attached lens brings up a set of framelines in the viewfinder so you can't use zoom lenses (good news), but you can see objects that are surrounding the frame (which can be handy to know if something is coming into shot).  Apparently the most popular lens is a 35mm, probably my most used too.

I actually looked at a Nikon FE2 many years ago but decided upon an Olympus OM4 instead.  I was still at school at the time.  That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! ;D
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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2013, 06:43:39 PM »
I was looking through someone's photography (primarily) blog and came across a couple of nice quotes.  I though I'd share them:

"There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs." - Ansel Adams

And one of the reasons I like the Leica rangefinder camera:

"I want simplification, not amplification or complication...I just want light controls ... because photogarphy is about light." - Thorsten Overgaard
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Re: My Photographs
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2013, 04:53:20 PM »
An old subject, brought back to life because there is a gallery with the MK photos I have promised almost a year ago! Here is the link:
http://vassilisgonis.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/the-musician-that-changed-my-music-directions-for-ever-mark-knopfler/

And Mona Dee, it has been a year already! ;-)
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