New SACD remaster of Brothers in Arms

[dustyvalentino]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brothers-Arms-Dire-Straits/dp/B00DI5DPE2/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1379052248&sr=1-2&keywords=brothers+in+arms

Lost count of how many times I hadn't bought this album....

[dmg]

This seems a new version of the SACD.  I'd need to rake it out, but from memory my version of the SACD from years back isn't the "original master recordings" one like this is.

[Justme]

But what does this part of a review from  Mr Agnew mean:

"[...] even with the actual, unpublished song ending [...]".

This list shows the actual lengths of the tracks on the new release:
01. So Far Away (5:13)
02. Money For Nothing (8:26)
03. Walk Of Life (4:13)
04. Your Latest Trick (6:34)
05. Why Worry (8:30)
06. Ride Across The River (6:58)
07. The Man's Too Strong (4:40)
08. One World (3:41)
09. Brothers In Arms (7:01)

Track lengths of the first release(s):
CD and cassette
"So Far Away" 5:12
"Money for Nothing" 8:26
"Walk of Life" 4:12
"Your Latest Trick" 6:33
"Why Worry" 8:31
"Ride Across the River" 6:58
"The Man's Too Strong" 4:40
"One World" 3:40?
"Brothers in Arms" 7:00?
?
LP
Side one?
"So Far Away" 3:59?
"Money for Nothing" 7:04?
"Walk of Life" 4:12?
"Your Latest Trick" 4:46?
"Why Worry" 5:22?
Side two?
"Ride Across the River" 6:58?
"The Man's Too Strong" 4:40?
"One World" 3:40?
"Brothers in Arms" 7:00?

Thanks to this thread/poster:
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mofi-dire-straits-brothers-in-arms-sacd-july-2013.318631/page-4

[dmg]

Got my one in front of me now and it's the 20th anniversary SACD.  This is mixed for SACD stereo, SACD surround and CD.  Mixed by Chuck. 

It seems this new one comes from the master tapes (don't know about the one I have) and isn't the anniversary edition (obviously - it isn't 2005 any more).  The anniversary edition has "an appreciation" inside the front cover by Robert Sandell.

If you want a one second longer version of SFA then I advise you get this new one pronto!

[Justme]

...and there's at least one second more to ask yourself "Why Worry" as well....

[Jules]

...and there's at least one second more to ask yourself "Why Worry" as well....

I

[Justme]

 

I'd only kill to get crimson!

[dmg]

...and there's at least one second more to ask yourself "Why Worry" as well....

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[the visitor]

This appears to be just another way to make fans cough up the cash for an old product.  The 20th anniversary BIA was mixed by Chuck from the master tracks and I can only see this version differing in packaging, probably in need of a rebrand as we now approach the 30 th anniversary.

 As an aside BIA was recorded entirely on digital recorders at Air and therefore even clones of the masters will sound hot!

[dustyvalentino]

The audiophiles on that forum daft that the 2005 sacd sounds credo and that these guys know their stuff...

[Justme]

For those amongst us, who haven't read the "sound on sound" article on BiA yet, head over there:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may06/articles/classictracks_0506.htm

[sweetsurrender]

For those amongst us, who haven't read the "sound on sound" article on BiA yet, head over there:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may06/articles/classictracks_0506.htm

Justme, thanks, very interesting read.

[Justme]

You're welcome. 

[the visitor]

The audiophiles on that forum daft that the 2005 sacd sounds credo and that these guys know their stuff...

I think one poster on that forum sums it up well

"I keep telling you guys, unless the original master file is totally different from what was released on CD, you're not going to get a huge amount of difference"

[Hoops McCann]

 

In September 2007 the Audio Engineering Society published the results of a year-long trial, in which a range of subjects including professional recording engineers were asked to discern the difference between SACD and compact disc audio (44.1 kHz/16 bit) under double blind test conditions. Out of 554 trials, there were 276 correct answers, a 49.8 % success rate corresponding almost exactly to the 50 % that would have been expected by chance guessing alone.