Money for Nothing & my guitar for free

[trullols]

Hi everybody!
A guitar cover over the original master track.
Hope you enjoy.

https://soundcloud.com/trullols/money-for-nothing-guitar-cover-by-trullols

 

[JF]

very good job
you got a tone very close to the original, with these distinctive harmonics. well done 
to get even closer, you could have recorded 2 guitars like on the original studio version

[trullols]

very good job
you got a tone very close to the original, with these distinctive harmonics. well done 
to get even closer, you could have recorded 2 guitars like on the original studio version

Thanks a lot for your answer, JF.. These armonics are given by the Wah + distortion effect 
I didn't know anything about that ... Two guitars? Do you know if both are the same but panned left & right, or you referred to two different guitars playin' at time? It's a very interesting thing as I think.
Thanks again! Merci beaucoup! 

[JF]

Yes 2 guitars panned left right.
You can clearly hear them in the outro when Mark is playing some licks

Like Ingo explained :
Note that in the intro and the first verse there is only one guitar that is doubled with some delay. From the first refrain on, we have two separate guitar tracks. As these are panned left and right, you just need to set your monitors so that only one channel is played to hear these alone.

http://www.mk-guitar.com/2010/11/02/money-for-nothing-on-guitar-hero-warriors-of-rock/

Mark and Guy always talk of the wah on MFN, but there is NO wah on the original studio version (neither during the BIA tour). The out-of phase sound came frome the mic position as Dordfsman explained.
The wah made his first apparition on the parody by "Weird Al" Yankovic (Beverly Hillbillies) and then was present on all tours afterward

[trullols]

wow. Thanks a lot for your explanation. I didn't know this issue about mics and harmonics.

As I think, (I supose) if you use an effects processor as I do, and you record the sound internally via PC or similar at home, the only way to get this particular sound is using the wah effect because you don't use neither real mics nor real amplifiers...

Anyway, the idea of both guitar tracks panned is very interesting. The effect given is like some kind of chorus, isn't?

Thanks a lot again for your very, very interesting comments.

Anyway, I get this sound using an "Eleven Rack". I'm very happy with this stuff, it really made you able to emulate classic guitar sounds. Now, I'm working on a Brothers In Arms sound. This wil be my next funny Project 
 

[dmg]

That's really interesting JF for someone like myself who doesn't play but has a little interest in these things.  That'll be why I prefer the BIA tour versions because I never thought the guitar sound was the same afterward.  And I thought it was just because of the guitar! 

[JF]

here is the article with Dorfsman's explanations I was talking about :

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may06/articles/classictracks_0506.htm

I'm sure it was already post here on AMIT some years ago.

Yes the effect can be thought as a chorus, but it's very common to double guitar riffs : ZZ Top, AC DC, Stonesetc... always do this to give more space and more power to the rhythm track.
for example, all ACDC riffs are always doubled panned left right on studio versions. almost always the same for ZZTop

another example is Gilmour's solo on Money :
the 1st solo is manually double tracked, meaning played twice by David while the 3rd is automatically double tracked, meaning doubled with the taping/mixing, like the Beatles often did, (e.g. the EC solo on while my guitar...)

http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=46

Yes dmg I agree with you, I never liked the sound with the wah.
My fav version of MFN live is the mandela one : great tone and great solo from MK, and also great solo from EC (with a broken string !)

[trullols]

So cold EC at that moment... It's not so easy ... in fact it's very difficult to perform a solo avoiding to pulse a broken string specially if the notes over that string are the main notes in the solo ... buf! amazing. I'd never seen the concrete scene before you told that. Great MK and great EC as well.

[ds1984]

EC is quite used to play with broken string.

[trullols]

Sure he's not very happy with that   

[trullols]

Thanks a lot, Rocco