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Offlinejbaent

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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2010 on: February 22, 2018, 11:54:43 AM »
I think In The Sky is the biggest missed opportunity in human history. The song itself is beautiful but the arrangement is so bloody bland!

That song could've been Mark's solo career's Brothers in Arms. Forget about guitar tremolos and saxphones, I love those but not in this one. I can hear the keyboards and the folkies as a bed in the background, creating that mellow and slightly trippy atmosphere. Now I can feel the buildup, first drums and bass show up and then start pushing a bit harder, Mark's Les Paul firing those stunning and melodic licks in between his vocals, it's gaining momentum... Then we explode into the chorus, In the Sky, In The Sky... everything is roaring, but Mark's kind of roaring, classy, harmonious and emotional. The song continues with this dynamics until the last bit before the final chorus. It's just Mark's voice and Guy's keyboards. So moving and delicate... then the Les Paul tears into it, shortly followed by the drums and everyone else, we hit the last chorus and then... oh, and then Mark plays the most beautiful, melodic and spiritual solo ever! And it's long, very long.

But no, we got saxphone solos and yet another repetitive arrangement. Sorry, I can't forgive that album  :disbelief

I think that's the great thing about Mark, why would he want to produce another Brothers in Arms? He has done that, why do it again? I don't think it fits the lyrics and personally I think the arrangement of In The Sky is brilliant, I could listen to it for hours. There is enormous amount of tension but it's still very calm, very few can do that.

What I love about KTGC is that it's different, a turning point in MK's solo career. It's the least DS-like record but still very much Mark. Just as you can't compare the first DS record with OES, you can't compare KTGC with GH or STP. He moved on and that's one of the things I didn't like about Tracker, it's just more of the same. Every record until Tracker had something new but I think every song on Tracker has been done before. Honestly I think he's running out of ideas (musically).

Whilst I agree with you about "In the Sky" - I like it very much too.  I disagree about Tracker.  For me it's Mark's best album to date and I listen to it from beginning to end with no skippers.

I'm listening to Tracker these days while driving to work and I have to say that I only listen three songs in a row (Laughs, Basil and Rivertowns) and from the fourth I skip ALL the songs until "Silver Eagle" and again skip tracks until the bonus tracks "Heart of Oak", "Oklahoma Ponnies" and "Time Will End All Sorrow". Just 4 songs of the main record and 3 from the bonus.

I can't stand the rest of songs, some sounds boring to me, some sounds like too low profile to me, it's from all MK records the one with more skippers. Maybe it has to do with that poor, very poor slide guitar. I don't understand why he does that. He's not good at slide, or maybe I should say he's too lazy at slide guitar to be good at it.

In the contrary, I found as a surprise that Privateering is a record which had aged very very well and I listen to it almost without skip any tracks.
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2011 on: February 22, 2018, 01:26:51 PM »
How can anyone not like "In the sky", it's a mystery.. I don't listen much to KTGC either, but I am watching the youtube videos of "In the sky" and "Let it all go" again and again. I love the overall feeling of "Let it all go", and the lyrics and the keyboard. Both such comforting songs, like Why worry.

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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2012 on: February 22, 2018, 01:43:40 PM »
Beautiful song but I don't get it.
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2013 on: February 22, 2018, 01:50:06 PM »
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2014 on: February 22, 2018, 02:07:07 PM »
In the Sky: love the song, hate the arrangement. And I love Tracker. And I hate KTGC. Peaks and valleys, I know.
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2015 on: February 22, 2018, 02:09:54 PM »
Guy Fletcher is more slippery than a wet soap covered in oil  :lol
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2016 on: February 22, 2018, 03:00:04 PM »
Guy Fletcher is more slippery than a wet soap covered in oil  :lol

 :lol :lol I don't mind that image in my head at all

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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2017 on: February 22, 2018, 03:51:59 PM »
Guy Fletcher is more slippery than a wet soap covered in oil  :lol

 :lol :lol I don't mind that image in my head at all

Did you really picture GF covered in soap and oil? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disturb you  :lol :lol :lol
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2018 on: February 22, 2018, 04:18:49 PM »
Guy Fletcher is more slippery than a wet soap covered in oil 

  I don't mind that image in my head at all

Did you really picture GF covered in soap and oil? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disturb you 
"Worse", I meant it. I like him. So I'm already disturbed haha

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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2019 on: February 22, 2018, 04:26:36 PM »
Guy Fletcher is more slippery than a wet soap covered in oil 

  I don't mind that image in my head at all

Did you really picture GF covered in soap and oil? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disturb you 
"Worse", I meant it. I like him. So I'm already disturbed haha

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I'm officially confused now lol

I said that because I asked him a question on his forum and his answer was vague. And now I have this image in my head that will hopefully disappear soon! lol
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2020 on: February 22, 2018, 04:35:23 PM »
Guy Fletcher is more slippery than a wet soap covered in oil 

  I don't mind that image in my head at all

Did you really picture GF covered in soap and oil? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disturb you 
"Worse", I meant it. I like him. So I'm already disturbed haha

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I'm officially confused now lol

I said that because I asked him a question on his forum and his answer was vague. And now I have this image in my head that will hopefully disappear soon! lol
(Laughing) ok I'll try. I understood that you meant by it, we know his answers often are   vague. But I am a woman, and kind of like him. So the image of it was quite nice in my disturbed brain

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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2021 on: February 22, 2018, 04:40:00 PM »
Naughty naughty  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2022 on: February 23, 2018, 01:19:50 AM »
You can say that Mark's slide playing doesn't do it for you. But, calling him a very poor slide player is simply absurd.

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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2023 on: February 23, 2018, 01:35:06 AM »
Don 70  :thumbsup
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Re: Back into the Studio very soon
« Reply #2024 on: February 23, 2018, 08:12:50 AM »
You can say that Mark's slide playing doesn't do it for you. But, calling him a very poor slide player is simply absurd.

Thanks for having the courage to say it.

The overbearing and disrespectful words with which some here judge Mark and Guy are hard to bear anymore.

 

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