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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2017, 07:16:03 PM »
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2017, 07:45:40 PM »
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2017, 08:45:26 PM »
Quote from: dustyvalentino ilink=topic=5844.msg117845#msg117845 date=1511979363
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

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How poor is that! Copying his guitar style but attacking him with these poor lyrics? Is the only reason for the existence of this Band to do stuff like this? That is even sadder than I thought ...

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2017, 09:37:20 PM »
What do the bad lyrics say ? Could you elaborate please
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2017, 09:54:40 PM »
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

Oh yeah, seems like you're right and after a couple of listenings I can say it's slating indeed... Strange. I can't even believe it, it can't be.

I’d like to disagree with you that crime don’t pay
but you make a lot of enemies along the way
the alchemy you need find the perfect lick
the sleight of hand until you find the three chord trick

He made a lot of money and he made a lot of foes
I guess he liked the smell of it just following his nose
and once you find the formula you can’t go wrong
if you’ve played the blues, you knew it all along
play the three chord trick and you’ve got yourself a song

He can juggle with the best of them and that’s a fact
he can conjure an illusion from a loaded pack
he’ll try to take the credit for it, that won’t stick
it’s just another version of the three chord trick

He’s holding all the cards and you can take your choice
don’t look him in the eyes, don’t listen to the voice
if you focus on the hands you can’t go wrong
if you paid your dues you knew it all along
play the three chord trick and you’ve got yourself a song

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2017, 12:04:15 AM »
It's very 80's big hair sounding to me. If they are having a go at MK it seems a strange way to get DS fans on board.

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2017, 07:59:12 AM »
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2017, 08:15:52 AM »
Phil Palmer sounded and behaved always like  a dick...

Big mistake from MK to give him the job back in 1991...

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2017, 08:16:50 AM »
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?

Seems like it... Which hurts my brain on so many levels. I really, really don't think Mark could ever "make a lot of enemies along the way". Enemies for what?! I think people often mess up their own stupidness with somebody just being plain successful. It's like Duke Ellington said about Louis Armstrong, "He was born poor, died rich and never hurt anyone along the way.". It astound me that some people can't calm down even though the years, 10 years, 20 years.

Want to resurrect Dire Straits? Want to play their songs? Want to play better than DS? Jealous of "his" success and wonder why he didn't call you to record or tour with "him" again? Well, it's your problem! Ranting about setlist is normal, but I just can't get all these people. Can't make enough money through music like MK? So get a normal job then! Like people do, you know. Nobody's standing here with a pistol forcing you to make music. But it surely looks like it.

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2017, 08:20:48 AM »
Mk got some negative to tour with Dire Straits in 1991, and he was obsessed with hiring the most professionals musicians he could paid, yes, it was MK fault.

Actually as far as I know the only reason Phil said yes to MK was because it was believed that Clapton would retire for some time after the death of his son Connor, but in the end Clapton didn't retire and Palmer loses his spot with Clapton and saw himself trapped with a MK that apparently in that years was in a very bad mood permanently... So I can't blame Palmer for having that opinion about MK.

However, I saw Palmer at the RAH attending MK solo shows also...
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2017, 08:24:55 AM »
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?

Seems like it... Which hurts my brain on so many levels. I really, really don't think Mark could ever "make a lot of enemies along the way". Enemies for what?! I think people often mess up their own stupidness with somebody just being plain successful.


Well, there are some ex DS with bad memories of working with MK... David, Pick, Tommy Mandel, Jack Sonni (who used to be his best friend), Many Katche...

There must be something...
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2017, 08:36:24 AM »
Well, there are some ex DS with bad memories of working with MK... David, Pick, Tommy Mandel, Jack Sonni (who used to be his best friend), Many Katche...

There must be something...

It reminds me of this immortal story of a guy who showed MK his cover of Sultans Of Swing and was scolded in French by the man himself. I mean, all these stories only shows one side and often this side is strange as hell... Why Mark removed John Suhr from his life is really interesting, but maybe there also was a solid reason? Who knows? :hmm

From my own experience, I tend to be an introvert, basically I have no friends. And I often get people hating me for no reason, but I just don't give them as much as they would like me to give, and who's to blame here? It's your fault if you want too much, but giving too little isn't fault at all. Great expectations...

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2017, 08:36:48 AM »
Not sure about Pick? Leaving because of musical differences is a little bit different?

I agree however that MK surely never looked very friendly and nice but always strange, egomanic and arrogant. It must be hard to really have a good relationship with him. He lacks many emotions not only in his lyrics but it seems also in his working life. Show me one song that touches and breaks your heart and is not ironic, full of sarcasm or wrapped into a lot of artistic layers...  I guess that's the price for being brilliant and a genious!

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2017, 08:37:20 AM »
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

Phil Palmer, even while still on tour with MK was slagging him (see Vox magazine feature, 1992).

Surprised the song doesn't mention sausages...

Still, it's got us talking about them which was probably the point.

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2017, 08:38:39 AM »
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?

Seems like it... Which hurts my brain on so many levels. I really, really don't think Mark could ever "make a lot of enemies along the way". Enemies for what?! I think people often mess up their own stupidness with somebody just being plain successful.


Well, there are some ex DS with bad memories of working with MK... David, Pick, Tommy Mandel, Jack Sonni (who used to be his best friend), Many Katche...

There must be something...

Might be. However there is an arrogant perspective in the song text that easy 3 chord songs, which sound good only because of the best musicians in the band...?

 

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