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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2017, 08:46:34 AM »
I recall reading Pick saying about leaving DS that he couldn't stand anymore working with someone incapable of listen to others opinions band accept that sometimes could be wrong. I'm not sure where I read it, but I read it for sure.
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2017, 08:56:33 AM »
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

Phil Palmer, even while still on tour with MK was slagging him (see Vox magazine feature, 1992). Surprised the song doesn't mention sausages...

Still, it's got us talking about them which was probably the point.

Here's a relevant topic on AMIT (Looking for article on DS in Vox Magazine): https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=669.15topic=669.0

Yeah, we talk about it. You know some celebrities have a difficult temperament while being bad as artists... I think in MK's case he surely could be forgiven after all he gave. And, in the end, the love you take Is equal to the love you make and I see 99% of love towards Mark and 1% of Phil Palmers and Alan Clarks. The latter got to play with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, you name it... Because of who? Man, I just hate the fact he still can't calm down about "writing" the ending of Romeo And Juliet. If you're such a great composer, show us what's you're up for... Oh, wait...

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2017, 09:03:23 AM »
I wonder how Danny feels about this, I mean he's playing in MK's band too at the moment!    :hmm
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2017, 09:03:55 AM »
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

I would say that his most important contribution is in Telegraph road, globaly the whol LOG album, live arrangement for Romeo & Juliet, and live re-arangements for "old" songs like once upon a time, down to the waterline, angel of mercy, in the gallery...but not in walk of life !

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #79 on: November 30, 2017, 09:06:21 AM »
I recall reading Pick saying about leaving DS that he couldn't stand anymore working with someone incapable of listen to others opinions band accept that sometimes could be wrong. I'm not sure where I read it, but I read it for sure.

The oldfield book says that Pick leaved for two reasons : he couldn't stand anymore being away from his family while touring, and he felt that keyboards took too much importance in DS music
but of course these are "official" reasons, there could be others of course...

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #80 on: November 30, 2017, 09:08:00 AM »
Exactly JF, this is what I also remember.

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #81 on: November 30, 2017, 10:35:33 AM »
I recall reading that statement from Pick in Rockaway fanzine, but it came from an interview he gave after his DS departure that I also read, but can't recall which one... I also remember he talked about pursuing playing more jazz, more music where he feels what he does matters to the song.
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #82 on: November 30, 2017, 10:39:53 AM »
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

I would say that his most important contribution is in Telegraph road, globaly the whol LOG album, live arrangement for Romeo & Juliet, and live re-arangements for "old" songs like once upon a time, down to the waterline, angel of mercy, in the gallery...but not in walk of life !

Yes, actually as a musical director, most of the long versions of the DS songs were co-composed and arranged by Alan, but never credited. As Guy uses to say, you are paying not only to play but also to add your parts to the song, and it must be credited to the author of the song anyway, as it written by him (MK) even you added parts yourself that were not there at the beguining.

I´m sure the 96ers do it everytime they play with MK, but the difference is that they know they are proffesional paid to do that. Alan, as most of the people in DS, felt they were a band, part of the band, but they weren't. In the end they got to produce and being credited in the OES album (the famous "produced by DS, DS are: Mark, John, Alan, Guy).
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #83 on: November 30, 2017, 01:25:34 PM »
I wonder how Danny feels about this, I mean he's playing in MK's band too at the moment!    :hmm

yes, this is frankly unbelievable
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #84 on: November 30, 2017, 01:51:33 PM »
Even if the lyrics was written by someone in particular, they all played the song,
it's like they agreed and signed the lyrics, they are all involved
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #85 on: November 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM »
I wonder how Danny feels about this, I mean he's playing in MK's band too at the moment!    :hmm

yes, this is frankly unbelievable

why?

He's a proffesional musician doing his job, getting paid for it.
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #86 on: November 30, 2017, 02:23:19 PM »
Even if the lyrics was written by someone in particular, they all played the song,
it's like they agreed and signed the lyrics, they are all involved

No, it's like they got payed for a job, playing in a number of songs.

It's like saying that MK agrees with the gun sales in the US as they are right now because he played and produced in Willy de Ville's "Due To Gun Control" song in his record Miracle.

Nonsense
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #87 on: November 30, 2017, 02:36:55 PM »
Even if the lyrics was written by someone in particular, they all played the song,
it's like they agreed and signed the lyrics, they are all involved

No, it's like they got payed for a job, playing in a number of songs.

It's like saying that MK agrees with the gun sales in the US as they are right now because he played and produced in Willy de Ville's "Due To Gun Control" song in his record Miracle.

Nonsense

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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #88 on: November 30, 2017, 02:40:32 PM »
Whatever you want, ghost.
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Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
« Reply #89 on: November 30, 2017, 03:25:10 PM »
Danny's name plastered all over the cover though so a bit different to being a normal "hired gun".
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